general gaming

[random steppe]

I really doubt we are anywhere close to an industry collapse

[gaunt marten]

Golden Eye is a very old game

[strong pebble]

It IS

It's whack but weirdly cool

[random steppe]

We are at a point in which literally niche genres like crpgs can put out game of the year material, in some way the industry is shittier than it has ever been if you exclusively look at certain triple A stuff, but it's also the most inventive, creative, and diverse it has ever been of you look at everything else.

[unreal idol]

I'm fully expecting the triple A portion of it to implode

[random steppe]

Also I am not 100% sure it's shittier or if stuff is getting more reported on now.

[strong pebble]

What do you mean implode

High prices for games?

[random steppe]

With indipendent reporting being more of a thing now

[unreal idol]

Implode as in collapsw

[random steppe]

And people being more aware of the inner working of the gaming industry than idk, 30 years ago

Like, you read about crunch but that was also happening 30 years ago
You hear about layoffs as soon as a big project is completed but that was also happening 30 years ago

The main difference is that we have Jason Schreier and people give marginally more of a shit about that stuff

[rancid herald]

I've been playing dyson sphere program

I haven't actually started making the dyson sphere and I'm like 12 hours into the game

[river veldt]

Batman: Arkham Knight and Skyrim

[harsh kestrel]

I don't think we'll witness another videogame crash like we did in 1983, but AAA gaming is gonna collapse in on itself for the most part if we keep trending in this overly expensive price for totally broken product direction

[bronze abyss]

reminder that a good majority of people still dont care about it and will buy the same shit

theres a reason why ea sports series last that long

[light gate]

Gamers already buy $100 dollar games anyway. They’re called ‘Ultimate Edition’.

Honestly it wouldn’t surprise me to see something similar with GTA VI when it comes to pricing.

[harsh kestrel]

$150 please lol

Also, honestly no, I don't think even the people that buy into bad shit would ever be for $100+ priced games considering that would mean ultimate editions would be like $120-$150

[bronze abyss]

gta atleast would have a fuck ton of content

[light gate]

That’s true.

[light gate]

Pfft, people are still paying for Star Citizen, and other online game services.

[bronze abyss]

like gta is one of the few games where they could have the price at like 150$ and it wouldnt even be that unreasonable

[harsh kestrel]

There would be major backlash if the prices jumped to $100 so soon. A lot of people would probably drop out of gaming all together or resort to pirating and emulation way more often in order to play the newer games, which, of course, wouldn't be good at all. Especially right now, games are pushing it price wise as is

[bronze abyss]

denuvo 🤮

[light gate]

If that’s the case, then start to embrace free to play lol.

[harsh kestrel]

That too

[rancid herald]

A 100 dollars per game is just a no from me

[astral steeple]

free to play games tend to be more fun overall usually

since people buying stuff within those games lets them then just focus on keeping the gameplay fun continuously

[light gate]

Depends on who you ask.

[random steppe]

I doubt the whole AAA side will collapse but we will definitely have genres dying and companies going under or taking hits because of that.

Most recent example IMO is the co-op games as a service games struggling to get any interest from anyone

Previous to that, we had the MMOs genre death that like, spared 3-4 titles in total

And for a good 5 years nothing new coming out for it and surviving

[random steppe]

I disagree that they tend to be more fun, I feel like that's survivor bias of the few companies that managed to keep the games fun despite it being free to play rather than because of it

But meeting a roadblock that is very annoying to get around without spending money is very common in f2p games, and not fun at all

[thorny loom]

While the data breach sucks

[light gate]

TF2 was probably the only game I got closest to liking free to play.

But even that is dead.

[thorny loom]

Gotta say the only good thing to come out of it was exposing sony attempting a greed powerplay with raising prices again

[light gate]

Oh I bet Microsoft would've done it too.

[thorny loom]

Oh yeah absolutely

[light gate]

Anything for an ounce of more money is good on their books.

[random steppe]

Very little love for Sony but also, worth mentioning that they all do it

[thorny loom]

Someone would have

[random steppe]

Nintendo included

[light gate]

Man, I hate how Nintendo rarely has sales.

[little badger]

Nice.

[light gate]

And the ones they have are digital only, so you're better off buying a used game but even that is a risk.

I hate how Switch cartridges can effectly ban your console if that cartridge was used on a modded switch.

[random steppe]

Closed systems and exclusivity sucks

[light gate]

Even open systems suck, I think in general there's just a lack of organization for the sake of quick profit.

[thorny loom]

https://youtu.be/gTWOXgsJDFE?si=6DvJTAh3uGs-fwkk

[random steppe]

Nintendo at least doesn't mistreat their workers so you could argue that the premium you pay goes towards the more ethical side of the industry at least

[thorny loom]

That being said the game looks promising

[random steppe]

Still sucks for the consumer though

[light gate]

oh my god they actually show a few developer tickets

[unreal idol]

Ehhhhhh it's not all sunshine and rainbows

Nintendo of America specifically doesn't treat outside contractors well

And Nintendo being a Japanese company comes with all the memes and baggage that that entails

But yeah they're still better than shitfires like ubisoft

[light gate]

Sega is also kinda wild too.

[unreal idol]

Huh first I've heard of this

[light gate]

Each cart has its own key.

So in theory its possible, have I seen it happen in real life? No. But I rather not take a risk like that.

[unreal idol]

I wish the switch was easier to mod

I had a ton of fun modding my wii

[heady bridge]

https://vxtwitter.com/GhostOfSparta1_/status/1737002192115237095?t=e-9Ahh6NAwzHdWXkd2alSA&s=19

[light gate]

Its already been posted.

[heady bridge]

Still, it needs to be said, screw you Sony.

[light gate]

Microsoft and Nintendo would've done it too.

[river veldt]

70 dollars is already pushing it imo

[heady bridge]

Maybe so, Nintendo technically charged more for N64 carts if you factor inflation over time due to the nature of those carts, but that was bs too and killed any chance they had against PSOne back in the day

[light gate]

Nintendo charged more because those cartridges were more expensive to produce than a CD.

[thorny loom]

Yeah eventually someone will push it too far. And cause sales to dip

[heady bridge]

They were but it didn't help going up against Sony and Sega (well in Japan anyway, Nintendo was in 3rd place there behind the Saturn)

[light gate]

I am also very sure that Sony would've done always online drm and no used games if it wasn't for Microsoft's shit-tastic E3 presentation.

That just gave them an avenue of guarantee success.

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/Nintendeal/status/1736534044383588513

[light gate]

What's the context of that?

[heady bridge]

Of course with these companies also wanting to push to all-digital too i just see it pushing more people towards PC, i mean you have no physical copies there too but at least you have competition between storefronts allowing for cheaper game prices

[light gate]

Because GameStop still sells used disc based games lol.

[astral steeple]

pretty sure its just sony being dumb like always lol

[light gate]

I mean its obvious physical media will go away.

Its innevitable.

[astral steeple]

digital only sucks

[heady bridge]

Plus didn't Sony like, advertise the fact you could let others borrow your physical games in that famous E3 video after Xbox One's disastrous launch

[thorny loom]

Its on there website

[astral steeple]

i keep all my disc based games and cartidge based games from all my consoles

[thorny loom]

But litterally theres no way of legally enforcing it

[light gate]

Well obviously its on their website, but what's the context?

Like where is that just listed?

[thorny loom]

Its in their licensing agreement

[heady bridge]

Wasn't that technically printed in all game manuals... back when physical games actually had game manuals at least....

[quiet swift]

The licensing agreement recently in the past couple days became drama bait, when it hasn't changed in ages and a lot of the stuff in there isn't even actively enforced

[heady bridge]

Just because it isn't now doesn't mean Sony (or others, i imagine others have this) won't sit on their hands forever on this if they think it'll make them some extra $$$

Anyway I think I can sum up these leaks from Insomniac with one gif...

[quiet swift]

No reaction gifs~

[unreal idol]

Oh fuck sony

Games are way too expensive as it is

🏴‍☠️

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/InsiderGamingIG/status/1737145149761958296

HUH????????

[thorny loom]

Pffff

[light gate]

Makes sense.

Xbox only game really didn't help it.

[rancid herald]

Jesus

[sour hill]

Not negative! Wooooo!

[light gate]

Basically ^

[astral steeple]

wasnt the game itself considered like really good by most people

[light gate]

I dunno, I only heard about it once or twice.

[heady bridge]

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart apparently made a loss initially, though I imagine the PC port pushed it into the black

[light gate]

That sucks.

I like Ratchet & Clank.

Have like the first four games. (1,2,3, Deadlock)

[rancid herald]

I get the impression a lot of games don’t make much money

[light gate]

Probably why its so secretive.

[heady bridge]

It at least explains the push to up prices but I fear doing that will potentially backfire and they make less money from games as people either don’t buy at all or wait for price cuts

[light gate]

I mean they have a choice.

Either do that, or stop making big games.

[heady bridge]

Yeah the cost of making larger AAA games has ballooned to unsustainable levels

[astral steeple]

never played any ratchet and clank games tbh

[light gate]

Really recommend it.

Its a lot of fun!

[astral steeple]

not really my type of game

[light gate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[heady bridge]

Rift Apart was fun but I found it a) too easy and b) too short, it definitely was not worth the initial £70/$70 price tag though the price it goes for now is more reasonable

[bronze abyss]

wait it has a pc port right? ive wanted to play a r&c game for a while now so that might be a good opportunity(yarghed ofc)

[wind stump]

"can't spend $18,000 to make Ratchet do the floss, 0/10"

[astral steeple]

my favorite type of games are the ones where you can just mess around and do whatever you want

even moreso if the game has good female characters and/or female character customization

stuff like Fort, Saints row 4, gta 5, gmod, skate 3, tony hawk, etc

[visual hill]

it's a fan render

[astral steeple]

🙄

[visual hill]

it's a pretty decent game but didn't sell great, so yeah

I learned about this game because of https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1022324/The-Ultimate-Trim-Texturing-Techniques, literally

[astral steeple]

a single fort skin doesnt even cost 18,000 dollars

[visual hill]

(it introduced a way to quickly texture large worlds, to make artists more productive)

[light gate]

"to make artists more productive" so that was a lie

[visual hill]

a valuable lesson for any Secret Santa participant

[bronze abyss]

i loved sunset overdrive a lot last time i played it

[light gate]

Its a pain to do texturing in general.

[young creek]

this phrasing is so funny

[astral steeple]

what

[young creek]

A single fortnite skin doesn't even cost 18,000 dollars

[astral steeple]

whats funny about that phrasing

[young creek]

its such a high number

A single Fortnite skin doesn't even cost 20 dollars makes sense

[astral steeple]

the reason hc picked that number is because ive spent a bit more than that on the game overall

im at like 21k spent since june of 2019

so hc went with 18k

[rancid herald]

[light gate]

21K....

[sour hill]

📈

[light gate]

[young creek]

yeah its just the use of the word "even" that was funny

[astral steeple]

stimulus checks helped

with part of that

the few times they got sent out

[light gate]

I hope you never lose those skins.

[sour hill]

[astral steeple]

i dont break epic's tos at all so i wont lose my account

[sour hill]

[light gate]

Its not even ToS related.

Its the fact if at any point if Epic decides to close Fortnite, of course its not gonna happen anytime soon... at least from what I can see... but most service games reach an end of life eventually.

When that happens, I dunno what Epic is gonna do.

[astral steeple]

epic has said numerous times now that they literally want the game to be a "forever game"

by slowly shifting it into becoming an "everything game"

itll never end

[light gate]

Nothing lasts forever.

Nothing.

Its something you eventually learn.

[young creek]

yeah it doesnt really matter what epic wants to happen

[light gate]

[young creek]

every game falls off

except minecraft and world of warcraft and runescape

[astral steeple]

see so every game doesnt fall off then

[light gate]

Ehh, Minecraft is also somewhat declining.

[young creek]

somewhat declining after 13 years..

[astral steeple]

they pretty much see the game as a living breathing place that continues to flourish

every year theyre able to just keep evolving and evolving it

[sour hill]

What if I blow it up

[astral steeple]

with new full on games, etc

[sour hill]

What if I destroy fortnite

[young creek]

I saw that they did put Minecraft at home into the game when I played on saturday so that is true

[astral steeple]

theyre also gonna slowly be integrating fall guys into the ecosystem as well

as its own full game within it

like the rock band game, lego game, and racing game, etc

thats also why theyve been doing the collabs to begin with

to pretty much make it into that "Everything game"

[light gate]

God I feel so old knowing I tested Fortnite before it became open.

Haven't touched the game since.

I don't even know if I should.

[astral steeple]

crazy to think its been a thing since 2011 lol

deff worth jumping into

[light gate]

Nah, I just don't like BR.

[astral steeple]

there's more than just the BR

[light gate]

And the game modes really do not interest me.

I just want something cohesive.

[astral steeple]

save the world still exists

[light gate]

That's still in the code!?

Oh my god.

[astral steeple]

yes it never got shut down at all

it gets new stuff semi-often

[light gate]

Well, don't have a device that can play it so lol.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral steeple]

the lego game itself is decently fun too

since its like minecraft but much more enjoyable

[light gate]

Isn't it just Lego Worlds?

[astral steeple]

its like a cross between lego worlds and minecraft

has a survival mode and a sandbox mode

[sour hill]

And you can be peter

[light gate]

no

[sour hill]

You can't?

That's incredibly fucked up

[light gate]

no I just don't want to be peter

[astral steeple]

not all skins are usable in the lego game

over time more will become usable

[sour hill]

Why not

[light gate]

why would I want to be peter?

[astral steeple]

theres like 1200 out of the 1700+ in the game that have lego versions

[sour hill]

Because it'd be epic?????

[light gate]

bruh

[astral steeple]

certain collab skins might not be usable due to licensing with lego, etc

but there are a good amount of marvel and star wars skins that do have lego versions

mr beast has a lego version as well thats usable in it

[sour hill]

Can you be Eminem?

[astral steeple]

no eminem in the lego game

[sour hill]

Gotta squad up in Lego fort with em and peter

[sour hill]

Disgusting.

[astral steeple]

marvel and star wars are somewhat easier due to the licensing already being there

for other collab skins they'd have to make another new deal with that person/company, and with lego

so now its like a 3 way deal

TMNT also has lego versions that are usable

[sour hill]

Well they gotta lock in that deal then

[astral steeple]

also lol

[sour hill]

Shit, I'll be the mediator

I'll run the whole fucking thing for them

We'll do it in manechat

🔊 Mane Voice

[young creek]

i was so sad when I booted up the game and saw that they made Peter buff..

[sour hill]

It's kinda messed up, but it's also kinda clean

[astral steeple]

im fine with buff peter cause its like the only way it would have worked

plus its a reference from the show

[sour hill]

They should put Peter in more games

[astral steeple]

im mainly hoping they add lois, quagmire, etc too lol

[mossy flume]

Mmm. Take it with a grain of salt, but yeah, makes sense.

[sour hill]

Like I think it'd be good if they put Peter in arma III

[river veldt]

Dark Souls IV starring Peter Griffin

[harsh kestrel]

I won't lie. I'm still concerned about game prices being bumped up yet again, even if that's still like 3 years from now. I'm telling you, a lot of people would quit buying games and go to piracy or emulation at that point. It's already a struggle to make ends meet, sometimes even with multiple jobs, let alone set aside $70+ for a game. $100+ when factoring that in would be a lot of people's final straws

[young creek]

You can find Peter as a hidden npc in the new Zelda game

[sour hill]

Ah sweet

[heady bridge]

Peter Pan?

[astral steeple]

griffin

[heady bridge]

Boo

[sour hill]

Who's that

[heady bridge]

Family Guy sucks

[heady bridge]

Did you just ask who Peter Pan was? Like one of the most famous literary characters ever.

[sour hill]

Yeah

[astral steeple]

im somewhat curious what all collabs epic even has planned for the next year

like from last december to now was already super insane

so it's gonna be interesting to see where they go from here

[young creek]

the guy who dresses like Link

[heady bridge]

You not heard of Captain Hook? The Lost Boys?

[sour hill]

I've heard of Peter Griffin

Have you heard of Lois?

[heady bridge]

Yes, unfortunately. Only from learning some of the awful “stories” that show has

[wind stump]

peta da fortnite crossover is here

[young creek]

hehehehehehehe freakin' sweet

[astral steeple]

i like how in game, the peter boss does the knee thing when you eliminate him lol

[sour hill]

Are there any Peter Pan games?

He's not even in fortnite yet

[astral steeple]

peter pan is disney right?

if so i could totally see them adding peter pan at some point in the future

Tinker Bell as well

[quiet swift]

Mostly side scrollers

[grim stirrup]

peter pan is public domain, disney did make something peter pan based

[quiet swift]

And doubtful that Disney will ever go near fortnite

[astral steeple]

jack skellington

marvel

star wars

wreck it ralph

[quiet swift]

You fucking well know what i mean

[astral steeple]

disney and epic are like super close

Jack is like the most mainline disney out of those as well

so other disney characters will likely show up too

plus Kermit is rumored to be showing up

[sour hill]

We're just gonna play cheap unfinished indie games from here on out

[quiet swift]

I'm talking stuff like Mickey, Elsa, the stuff that is oriented towards the younger kids

[astral steeple]

if they add kermit then yeah those could totally happen too

[sour hill]

Sprinkle in some cheap finished indie games to spice it up

[bronze abyss]

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Oh shit sorry its not that cheap anymore

[astral steeple]

usually with the deals for these collabs its never a single character

they always end up doing more than that over time

[sour hill]

Sad!

[astral steeple]

no way they would have only discussed adding jack in that meeting and thats it lol

[river veldt]

Elsa would be cool actually

[astral steeple]

yessssss

make the elsa spiderman memes real lmao

since they got spiderman already

theres kinda elsa at home but like

closest they could probably get to elsa without getting sued lol

until an actual deal would happen

and that skin was like 2018

Tarzan and Aladdin I could somewhat see happening too

Maybe woody and buzz

Just depends if the kermit rumor ends up being real

That would pretty much open up the doors to any mainline disney character

[sour hill]

I have been working tirelessly to stop Kermit from entering fortnite

[astral steeple]

lol

[proud warren]

the only Kermit I can think of in a fighting sense like that is the fucking smash mod with him over Ryu

[astral steeple]

Kermit in fort with a gun would be like the best thing ever lmao

[sour hill]

I approve of this

[proud warren]

"back off"

[astral steeple]

Miss piggy too

[proud warren]

Miss Piggy would thrive in fortnite

[sour hill]

They should make a game about Kermit, but instead of hosting the Muppet show he's a blood

[sour hill]

I kinda have to agree

[astral steeple]

2024 might end up having more insane collabs than this year did

[proud warren]

imagine if the "wave your arms and body around like a madman" thnig kermit does freqently becomes an emote

[astral steeple]

Yeah lol

[proud warren]

also, there's only 1 muppet I can see fitting in better than Miss Piggy

and that's Animal

[astral steeple]

Oh yeah

Lots of potential lol

[sour hill]

Him or gonzo

Tbh I think Kermit would fit better in like Postal 2

[astral steeple]

i wonder how long it will take for nintendo to not be so stubborn and let samus, Link, etc into the game lol

[little badger]

@random steppe https://fxtwitter.com/egosoft/status/1737179113666810025?

[mossy flume]

!

[green fulcrum]

Incoming lawsuit from the Musk.

[little badger]

[white phoenix]

r/gamingleaksandrumors is going crazy with the insomniac leak
It's probably the biggest leak in gaming history in terms of sheer depth

There was a pitch for a gta online style spider verse game which would be cool

[mossy flume]

Even including the Nintendo gigaleak?

Did this Insomniac leak include source code?

[white phoenix]

I've seen mention of source code of wolverine out there
There's a playable pc build of the game too

But it's not just about the games, it's the fact that their whole plan, finances, and even licensing agreements got put out there

[mossy flume]

Eugh

That’s terrible =/

[spiral kraken]

How do you change the font on the Youtube app ???

[mossy flume]

Insomniac is going to potentially get a substantial hit to their business agreements as a result of this

Way to set the company on fire, whoever did this.

[white phoenix]

Yeah, their whole deal with Marvel, monetary values and clauses included, is now public, which will almost definitely be put against them in the future

[random steppe]

I mean they did well not to pay

But yeah the problem was the breach in the first place

[mossy flume]

Yeah. Never pay the hackers.

[random steppe]

If you pay them maybe you get away this time, but then you become a very attractive target for future groups that want to make a payday

[mossy flume]

Fuuuck, man… heads are going to roll for that

[random steppe]

While if you don't whoever tries to do it in the future, know they wont get money out of it

[mossy flume]

Also legitimizes the tactic, yeah

[white phoenix]

Man its not even just insomniac, we now know sales numbers of playstation pc ports, and info on current projects from guerilla and bluepoint games

There was apparently a horizon multiplayer game in development

[random steppe]

To be fair, I don't know how bad that actually is.
Except from the fact, that if some of those get cancelled fans will be mad now, since they know they exist.

Except in the cases in which there were contracts that explicitly stated that those things had to kept secret they are probably going to be fine.

The source code is probably the most damaging bit if I had to guess

[mossy flume]

Yep

It’s damaging to Insomniac’s reputation as a partner as well

They may have some trouble getting fresh deals for a while

[random steppe]

They are in a very particoular situation tho

I don't know if any of their partners will look at them and go "IDK maybe I should drop them"

Playstation sure as fuck wont, they are one of the two big systems sellers they have.

Marvel may, even tho they are the one gaming company putting out universally liked AAA games from marvel so...hard sell

Like, Insomniac isn't exactly a company that relies on a lot of small ties, more like a few very big ones

[harsh kestrel]

It wasn't through YouTube itself. It was more so through my phone settings where you can change things like what the text font looks like in certain apps like YouTube. I'm obviously not sure where you would find it on your phone, but I'm sure it's a thing

[thorny loom]

Oh god not again

[thorny loom]

Let me link

Here

https://vxtwitter.com/thicc_stick_boi/status/1737019487436902501/photo/1

[teal cliff]

How the hell would that work? Everyone's playing a spiderperson?

Each from different universes?

[thorny loom]

There was a superhero mmo before kinda like that

[river veldt]

ugh why does Batman keep telling Tim to stay where he is and not help

[thorny loom]

Story wise. Batman feels there can never be a true successor to him

[quiet swift]

"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong."

[thorny loom]

Basically

[thorny loom]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1659420/UNCHARTED_Legacy_of_Thieves_Collection/

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[white phoenix]

yes, you make your own spider person

[thorny loom]

On sale for $25

Gow 2018 is also on sale for $25

[quiet swift]

Yet the original three games still aren't on PC. Why start with #4, Sony!?

[thorny loom]

Yeah always found that odd

Emulators exist at least

https://www.pcgamer.com/ea-rebrands-frostbite-with-a-cuddly-new-hand-as-it-says-its-studios-are-now-free-to-develop-on-any-engine-they-choose/

EA did have to learn the hard way that frostbite isn’t really made for much outside of shooters after all

[minor plover]

I've been doing Pony names for the seed in the Balatro demo. For example:

I've already won using all of the g4 and g5 mane six cast.

[thorny loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/gJRjLKTXNB

Apparently a venom game is/was planned for 2025. This does line up with rumors

||and also explains why venom was playable in spider man 2||

[green fulcrum]

||Ratchet and Clank||!!!

...in 2029.

[mossy flume]

bah, reddit has some seriously hot takes

[thorny loom]

Mind you its outdated. But this does show mixed sucess with pc ports

[mossy flume]

This is why PC ports come a year or two after the console version.

PC versions are also pirated a loooooot more than console versions are.

[thorny loom]

uncharted biggest issue was not making it a compete collection

[thorny loom]

Same reason switch ports are now delayed

Switch port means guaranteed day one pirate

[mossy flume]

Well, Switch ports are mostly delayed because it's a platform that requires a lot more work if you're not targeting it from day 1.

[thorny loom]

Also that

[mossy flume]

Technical limitations are the biggest factor

[green fulcrum]

Which ones in this case?

[white phoenix]

their sales show that rift apart was not profitable

sad really

[thorny loom]

This is easily the biggest sony related hack since the 2011 hacks

[grave tide]

And new Ratchet and Clank will be with SUPER DIGITAL EXTREME AMAZING SSD TO MAKE METAUNIVERSE IN RATCHET AND CLANK

[white phoenix]

no wonder they'll be doing marvel for the next decade or so

[mossy flume]

People in that subreddit asserting that the Insomniac devs deserve to have this happen to them because they shouldn't be secretive about their plans in the first place.

(Even saying that it's good for them to have their plans and documents leaked)

Ridiculous.

[white phoenix]

insomniac is also one of the few game developers that actually don't suck working for them
even in some of the leaked presentations they would remind people to not get burned out and take pto as needed

[green fulcrum]

........What kind of troll logic shit is that?

[mossy flume]

Self-entitled gamers.

[minor gorge]

How typical.

[thorny loom]

Mind you this is the same subreddit that banned the user that reported the starfield leaker to law enforcement

https://kotaku.com/starfield-leak-cops-gamingleaksandrumours-reddit-ban-1850789139

[mossy flume]

....of course they did.

So the sub's terrible, got it

[thorny loom]

Community wise yeah probably

But its the main go to for leaks which is all i ever go to for it

[river veldt]

"employees should be doxxed because they're secretive about upcoming games"

weird ass logic lmao

[mossy flume]

Yeah, it's the logic of a 14 year old with main character syndrome who has no idea how anything works.

[fresh bane]

At the risk of sounding snobby, I've come to find that a lot of people on the internet in general are like that, they either obviously are trying to rile people up by having outrageous opinions or are legitimately so stupid that they actually do think like that, but I like to think that it's just extremely vocal minorities and the vast majority of people don't think like that just for my sanity

I haven't seen any of the leaks at all in part because I'm too lazy to go out of my way to check it out but also because I feel pretty sad that most people will only care about discussing and getting clicks and likes on their posts and articles about all these leaks and possible new games and will conveniently leave out the part where so much personal information about the employees has been put out there that this isn't just a leak showing what they've been working on and what they plan to do in the future anymore

[slim thorn]

vocal minorities definitely bias toward things like main character syndrome

[random steppe]

I generally care very little about any game until it's out and on a platform I own, but the insights in the industry are interesting

[slim thorn]

yeah, I've lived through way too many games looking kinda neat at preview time and then being nothing special on release

and nowadays the market is so saturated no one has time to play what's already out

[random steppe]

And it's not like I'm gonna ignore it if stuff leaks and is interesting to discuss about.
It's not like it's gonna unleak it if I do.

But yeah, I'm not gonna go out of my way to look for it mostly because I don't care enough about these games in particular

[astral steeple]

my main complaint with the leaked info is why is spider-man 3 so far out

like at that point the ps5 will be losing support and the ps6 will be out by then

[random steppe]

Making it a ps6 launch title might be the plan for all we kbnow

[astral steeple]

probably wont even get a ps5 port

[random steppe]

Keep in mind they made 3 games in the same genre on the same console about spiderman, Spiderman 2 is reportedly very good but chances are that they need to put some space inbetween these if they actually want to not become Assassin's Creed.
if nothing else to come up with something new, and making the 3rd main title on new more powerful hardware might help them pushing it that extra bit they need.

[fresh bane]

Being able to see what happens behind the scenes of any industry and project is always interesting, it's this particular case where my concern completely overrides any interest I could have on seeing any of these things because of how damaging this is for the people working on this company
In the best case scenario we'd be able to see the goings on behind the scenes from interviews and maybe any showcases devs want to share which I wish was a practice more devs did but then again some stuff is private for a reason and we've already seen how bummed people working on GTA 6 were when the trailer had to release early because of the leak, and if they get bummed for just a trailer I can't imagine what it'd feel like when not only early builds and development stuff from your game gets leaked but your entire damn roadmap for the next 10 years

[random steppe]

Yeah but like...not looking at it doesn't change the fact that leaked.
It leaked and we can't really do anything about it.

[fresh bane]

Game development takes a long time especially now and especially if you wanna make big AAA games, and I already read here that they're working on || a Venom game || alongside the Wolverine game

[fresh bane]

Well if you wanna look at it and discuss it go ahead I'm just talking about me here

It's not like people aren't gonna talk about it but that's why I'm saying it

[astral steeple]

i just dont see how a ||venom|| game would work

||like that section of spiderman 2 was already like super limited and was pretty much you just going around destroying stuff||

[random steppe]

Oh I know exactly how it'd work

It'd be Prototype

Except they maybe can't go quite as crazy with that

[astral steeple]

it just wouldnt work super well at all

[random steppe]

If they put it out (because those unannounced projects could be cancelled at any time) I assume it'd be a shorter experience

SImilar to the Miles Morales stand alone thing

Probably can't tell a super long story about ||Venom||, but you can probably tell an intense one

[astral steeple]

i mean

miles morales at least worked since it pretty much was a spider-man game

you still had like a lot of freedom in terms of being able to swing around anywhere

which is what makes the spider-man games work to begin with

[white phoenix]

they said it was going to be around 10 hours long

[fresh bane]

I don't worry at all about how a game like that would work, Spiderman 2 basically just did a bigger budget version of what Ultimate Spiderman already did and that was and still is tons of fun, what I worry about is || how they're going to justify it considering Venom was already dealt with by the end of Spiderman 2, which was extremely disappointing, and from what I remember there wasn't any ''but maybe there's some symbiote left!'' thing ||

[random steppe]

At no point in comic book stories, was ||"this character is dead" a barrier to tell a story about said character||

[astral steeple]

oh yeah that as well

||there wouldnt be really a way to bring the venom symbiote back since it was destroyed||

||they did somewhat expand on it with the carnage arc but like at that point just make the game focus on carnage instead||

||cletus had pretty much still had his symbiote completely||

[fresh bane]

The problem is || they already knew and were probably already planning a Venom game for the future, so then why fully resolve the Venom problem if you're gonna bring him back? || but at that point I'd be starting to get into a rant about how disappointing the story of the game was to me and I don't really wanna get into that

[random steppe]

Well having a game under development doesn't necessarily mean you'll finish it

Depends at which point of the development it is.

They probably were happier making a ||complete story, than keeping it open and leave this plot hole forever unadressed in case they ended up scrapping the spinoff.||
||They reasoned they could find an excuse to bring it back if they needed it||

To be fair tho, I'm not familiar with the story so I'll defer to your opinion of it.

[astral steeple]

i kinda want to get sm2 at some point its just still way too expensive

havent been able to find a cheap key or anything for it

[random steppe]

I will play it if it comes to pc and go on a decent sale

I don't care a lot for it, the first one was pretty good, the DLC I thought were pretty bad tho

[astral steeple]

right now ive mainly just been playing the original remastered one when i want to play something spiderman related

[random steppe]

When I get the itch I'll probably get Miles Morales, but I'm not enthusiastic about the games anyway

[astral steeple]

it probably wont happen, but i mainly just want them to do a game related to the Web Weaver version of spiderman

like even if its just like a bonus costume in sm2 or something

or in a future title

[thorny loom]

I mean.

If we’re talking about ps6 stuff. Gta 6 is almost guaranteed to repeat what gta 5 did

[river veldt]

what were the dlcs even

[thorny loom]

Release the first version on current consoles. Release an enchanted edition for next gen consoles then finally release a pc port

[random steppe]

It was mostly about the mafia guy with the metal plate in his head

And black cat and the Detective lady.

[astral steeple]

the Heist, Turf Wars, and Silver Lining

[random steppe]

It was like...okay...the story was terribly predictible and the characters had barely any of the charm the villains in the main game had.

[river veldt]

mafia guy

Kingpin ?

[astral steeple]

Hammerhead

iirc

[random steppe]

No that would have been good

It was budget kingpin, yeah, Hammerhead

[astral steeple]

Kingpin was like the main boss in the beginning of the first game lol

[random steppe]

The "We have kingpin at home" villain

[astral steeple]

a game focusing on Web Weaver would be so good

[random steppe]

That's definitely a very stylish character design, maybe it'll be the spinoff game for 3

Especially if that movie does well

[astral steeple]

it was like a one-off comic series iirc

dont think they ever did anything with that character after that

dont think web weaver even showed up in the spiderverse movies either

[river veldt]

she's getting a movie ?

[astral steeple]

it was like a few comics that came out and that was it

[random steppe]

Maybe it's not about web weaver

[astral steeple]

you're thinking of Madame Web probably

[random steppe]

Yeah that one, my bad

[river veldt]

it's kinda crazy how many Spiderpeople there are

[random steppe]

I thought you were talking about her, I don't know too much about spinoff-y spider people

[little badger]

Did you manage to craft the new Tenno?

[random steppe]

Actually I did, still have to do anything with him tho

[astral steeple]

web weaver is like fairly newer in terms of spider-characters

[little badger]

How long does it take to craft so I know if I can get it or not

[random steppe]

The usual 12 hours and 3 days for the timer, and for the blueprint they are pretty easy to get

The main blueprint you get for finishing the quest

And the 3 pieces you get in the bounties, but you can also buy them with reputation

[little badger]

Ah right.

[astral steeple]

in the web weaver universe, gwen is morbius lol

[random steppe]

And the materials are pretty easy to farm too

[little badger]

That’s good.

[light gate]

Riven: The Sequel to Myst Remake Screenshots

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1712350/Riven/

Steam

Riven

RivenNew Discoveries From the Lost D’ni Empire“Thank God you’ve returned… I need your help.”With these words, Atrus asks you to undertake a perilous mission where your success is far from assured. Travel to Riven, a mysterious island-filled land on the verge of collapse, to rescue Atrus’ wife, Catherine. She is being held captive by Gehn, Atrus’...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[random steppe]

His pose makes me feel inadequate tho, he needs to chill for a minute.

[random steppe]

I have a friend that is a big mist fan, and he's pretty hyped about this

[minor belfry]

Looks like something straight from The Matrix franchise.

[light gate]

It literally looks like the original playstation 1 game in a very good way.

[light gate]

Original Elevator as an example

[river veldt]

i remember when drawing original spiderpeople were a big trend on Twitter

[white phoenix]

their spider sona

that pitched online spiderverse insomniac game could have been the game to live out that fantasy
what they showed was really cool, don't know if it's in active development though since it wasn't on their roadmap

[river veldt]

that would be really really cool

[dense crypt]

warframeposting

here have my nekros

[random steppe]

cool cape

[dense crypt]

ty

i love capes

[river veldt]

im a Batman fan which means im legally required to like capes

[astral steeple]

ugh they need to lower the prices of these instruments lol

[slim thorn]

some of the batpeople don't wear capes, tbf

like Nightwing

[river veldt]

yeah but i meant specifically Batman

though i guess even Batman doesn't even always wear capes if we take Terry into account

also why was the first Nightwing outfit i thought of when i imagined him his weird 70s one

[slim thorn]

iirc it was his first costume as Nightwing, so that's "not wrong"

[river veldt]

have you seen the Batman Beyond costume in Arkham City

[slim thorn]

nope

[river veldt]

hold on a sec

it's weirdly unsettling

i muchh prefer the Knight version, it fits the aesthetic way more

[thorny loom]

Skin tight vs robotic

Skin tight worked better when it was animated

[rancid herald]

you know what batman needs? a villain made from his own costume.

like somehow the batsuit comes to life and Batman has to fight the batsuit

[quiet swift]

https://youtu.be/Zj4rdkaK4-k?si=hU8JMagLSzTy85Af

[random steppe]

I know you are joking because Venom, but actually, a mecha suit with an AI that goes haywire and fights by itself might actually work

[river veldt]

isn't that what the Arkham Knight is

[slim thorn]

it's happened to Tony Stark plenty of times

[river veldt]

i havent finished the story yet

[slim thorn]

no

[river veldt]

the skin tight one looks weird cause of the mouth and forehead

[river veldt]

ok thank you /gen

[fresh bane]

Oh wow this makes me think about what if Cyberpunk released as a CRPG

that would've been super sick actually

it looks so good

[light gate]

https://in.ign.com/ps5/199525/news/playstation-is-not-banning-the-resale-and-sharing-of-physical-ps5-games

[heady bridge]

Thing is, regardless that is still in the ToS and it could be used to clamp down on it if some future scummy CEO deems it necessary in future…

[light gate]

Everyone has the clause so.

[heady bridge]

Exactly meaning it’ll only take one CEO of these companies to start before others follow

[light gate]

Sweet, I bet it'll be Nintendo.

[heady bridge]

Well considering what Microsoft tried to do with the Xbox One before launch they technically tried it before anyone else with having methods to stop reselling using online only gaming and checks for “legitimate copies”, the pushback was very strong though and they never went through with it. The problem I guess is how you could police this without some kind of online checking system

[light gate]

Unique keys on each Disc I guess.

Would be terrifying how that would work.

[heady bridge]

Tbh there is an easy way to make this ToS a reality anyway. Just make your console all digital

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1736713134117884274

Mikami is not interested in working on the Resident Evil series again.

lol

Mikami and Kamiya would like to see a new Okami game.

[minor belfry]

I picked up 2 great games today (imo), both of them are uhm... idk how to describe it.

[craggy vine]

One of them better be called Urge

[minor belfry]

Sadly not... I'm not a huge modern gamer

[river veldt]

what are they called

[minor belfry]

Need for Speed Underground and Midnight Club II

Never heard of them, but they looked cool.

[dire gate]

Both are fairly well known games.

[minor belfry]

Not for me.

[dire gate]

Actually NfS Underground is more to the "famous game" side

Both were also very well received so

nice choice I guess

[minor belfry]

The graphics are quite impressive.

[quiet swift]

NFS games tend to be quite fun. Though the most recent entries do suffer from taking too many ideas from live service? It's not live service per se but it extends the story by needing to do so many things repeatedly that it feels influenced by it

[craggy vine]

That's fair

I seem to really like new indie games, especially ones in development still

[craggy vine]

[quiet swift]

Das dark

[craggy vine]

This game's caves are fucking scary

And the cave goes into a huge pool of water

hmm yes

[minor belfry]

Holy... NFS Underground is awesome!

I went with the civic instead of the dodge neon, sorry folks.

[craggy vine]

Nice

[craggy vine]

Nope

[gaunt marten]

You need to put down the iron pipe

[craggy vine]

no

My safety pipe

ok nevermind I can let go of the pipe now

[craggy vine]

[dire gate]

amogus.

[craggy vine]

sus

[gaunt marten]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/3888358641555807825

For more advanced use cases, you can disable items from being loaded by your game. And you can now change the local load order for your items. Also, if Workshop creators have set their items as depending on other items, you can automatically set the load order based on these dependencies. Missing dependencies will also be displayed, to make it easier to see why some mods are not working. You can opt into the Steam Client beta to try out these changes.

[minor belfry]

Is there mod for when you drop the pipe it makes the metal pipe sound?

[craggy vine]

I don't believe this game has mods yet, it is so new and still in alpha

Gets updates regularly too. There's even a countdown timer on the menu screen for when the next update comes out. Next one is in about 2 weeks, and a new update only just came out.

One of my favourite bugs right now is that the loading screen seems to end too early when loading in, and you appear to be placed in this one location of the map until it fully loads and you are put where you last saved. I want to find where exactly it shows you though, because it looks like you can see a drivable car outside a window.

The game is always frozen when you see it

[gaunt marten]

You can mod any game in seconds, provided it has no anti-tampering

Most singleplayer indie games don't

[craggy vine]

Well this game certainly doesn't

But idk who would at the moment, it seems to get update so regularly.

[gaunt marten]

Do you know what engine it runs in?

[craggy vine]

Unity

It's probably super easy to mod

[gaunt marten]

Should be easy to decompile and swap the appropriate audio files

But when I say you can mod any game in seconds, I'm talking about making small edits to memory while the game is running

[craggy vine]

I don't think there is audio for dropping something yet

[gaunt marten]

In that case you'll have to implement it

[craggy vine]

Yeah

You know what, it would be cool to be a part of this game's development, doing the sound for it.

The sound ambience is already really cool

[gaunt marten]

What's the game called?

[craggy vine]

Urge

[gaunt marten]

You can email the developer at [email protected]

[craggy vine]

I actually could

My only thing is that I don't have any experience in putting audio into a game yet myself

[gaunt marten]

Here's what you should make clear:
1- You don't ask for a cut of the profit. You can ask for a fixed fee if you like.
2- Include samples or a link to a portfolio of what you can make
3- Accurately describe your experience.
4- Minimize filler. Don't talk too much about how you like the game

[craggy vine]

It would basically be a first time thing if i did, doing sound for a video game

Even with film audio stuff, I only did it while in university

[gaunt marten]

Try making the appropriate sound clips for the game and playing them when you perform an action to get a feel for it

You can also look at royalty free videogame audio libraries to see how they do it

[craggy vine]

Maybe

I don't feel like the game needs it that much though. It's a janky game and the audio jank is a part of the charm.

And there's enough sound there that it is good

[gaunt marten]

Sure

[craggy vine]

My main complaint is that enemy hurt sound effects sound like the developer moaning into his mic. But otherwise it's fine really.

And I suppose the sound of hitting stuff with the pipe has a little too much sub bass in it

[gaunt marten]

You can include these notes separately as a PS or in a document

If you do, try to include improved examples

[craggy vine]

I'm not that serious about doing sound for this game, it was just like, a thing that it would be cool is all

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

I recognize you probably won't bother

I'm just making sure that in the unlikely case you do choose to do it, you can go about it confidently

[craggy vine]

Also the lighting system in this game is weird as fuck, I hope they change it some day. These 2 screenshots are in the same loacation, about a footstep apart.

Instead of an area actually being dark, you go passed a trigger where the game enters a dark mode

I sorta get it, it helps make those parts super creepy, but it is always so weird on the transition.

[gaunt marten]

Yeah it should be a more gradual transition

[craggy vine]

Especially coming out, you'll see what might be the outside but still only see like 2m in front of you, maybe see some grass, until suddenly you go passed the trigger and its all bright again

The mine in this game is the worst for it, because the tunnel entance is big.

The whole concept of this game is fucking weird so it's whatever really

I love the enemy ai though. It just feels weirdly inteligent. The bugs are always like 'go towards player and kill' but the infected humans are like, only half hostile. I even once made one afraid of me after hitting them. One I was able to sorta go passed them. Although, in those dark tunnels is where they are most aggressive.

Scary as shit when you're walking in the dark, seeing only 2m in front of you, and then at the edge of your light you see 2 skinny deformed humans running at you

[rare garden]

Nooo i was playing tlou 2 and the horse called shimmer got fucking EXECUTED

[grave tide]

[wind stump]

based

[rare garden]

not only that but Shimmer was blown up by a frag grenade just seconds before

[wind stump]

i missed the writing in Tales of Vesperia, lmao

"Not every bad day can become a good day, some days are fucked, and cannot be unfucked."
- Patty, probably

and for some reason that conversation got Patty a title
sure
thanks Vesperia

[strong pebble]

😆😆

[strong pebble]

This is so funny

[craggy vine]

[chilly mural]

https://vxtwitter.com/megamanxdivenft/status/1736220166093238533 capcom never lets me down

[gaunt marten]

Megaman NFTs

[random steppe]

Is this offiocial even? This looks dodgy

I mean, more than usual

[gaunt marten]

My impression is that it is an officially licensed independently published NFT

But I have no idea if it's actually licensed

[wind stump]

fucking sTOP

[visual hill]

right-clicks

it's over, I have the high mouse

[random steppe]

I will hold off with judgment until I know if it's actually licensed by Capcom
not that it would terribly surprise me, but famously the guys that did the Inuyasha NFTs just did it, withou any rights or anything, so you never fucking know with this shit.

To be clear, the judgment I'm holding is for Capcom, the NFTs are shit license or not

But the fact that it wasn't an official Capcom account tweeting this makes me sus

Maybe they made the agreement a couple of years ago and now they are too embarassed to post it on their main shit?
That's also possible

[wind stump]

Uh oh, stinky!

also
Karol: "I got it, Rita's not a flower, she's a prickly cactus!"
Rita: DIE punches Karol off of the screen

[harsh kestrel]

NFTs need to fucking die, no if, and, or but about it. I know the internet and the world disagrees on a lot of things, but I honest to God think that NFTs not existing anymore is one thing that everyone can agree on. Hell, I laughed at the people that bought them a couple years ago thinking they were something, and now look

[gaunt marten]

Why do you think they need to die?

[random steppe]

I think the biggest argument is that the energy requirment tied to cryptocurrency, and by extension NFTs, is a really big problem

And is delaying and offsetting the efforts to switch to green energy

There is also the rampant scams, the fact that they are uniquely bad for what their proponents want to use them for, the fact that commodifying everything would be really bad and stuff like that, but I think the bigger argument is the energy.

[gaunt marten]

The energy argument is a valid and serious good faith argument, however, it only applies in the case of certain NFT setups that cost a lot of energy to process. Remember the "eco-friendly" NFTs Tara Strong used to peddle?

[random steppe]

Even those are a bit better, but not much better.
It's still energy inefficent is my understanding

[gaunt marten]

The process of making a piece of information like an NFT "immutable" and public can be difficult, but when done efficiently, it's not actually inefficient.

Now, I'm not arguing any NFTs justify their existence or should exist.

But I do want everyone to be thoughtful and attentive.

[random steppe]

Also it's not really immutable, you have the reciet but the image it usually refers to is hosted to a server because NFTs can host very little data

So they are just as vulnerable to link rot as anything else

[gaunt marten]

Well, the thing that is immutable is the receipt.

The immutability means that it cannot be changed. It can cease to exist, but malicious actors can't change them

[random steppe]

Kinda...that is true as long as enough people can host the ledger, which becomes very very difficult if it gets mass adoption, which is the plan.
The technology only works if it's like, a very nichè thing.

[gaunt marten]

Correct!

[random steppe]

Which defeats the purpose because 99% of the people that go into it, do it as financial speculation, that only pays off if people mass adopt it

[gaunt marten]

NFTs are not a good idea, and should not exist because they don't solve any problem better than anything else, and they've been used as a wasteful method of facilitating scams and money laundering. I do have concerns about unjustified vitriol people direct at them.

[harsh kestrel]

They've basically just been over priced Google search images since they started popping up, and that's why they just need to go away

[random steppe]

I think the vitriol is justified in this case.
The technology itself is interesting but when its use is almost exclusively used to scam people it's probably okay if people don't like it.

I also thought it could maybe have some interesting application down the line, but the more I learn about it, the less I feel like there is any real problem it can solve, or at least none I can think of

[gaunt marten]

Any problem NFTs can solve can be solved better by a centralized trusted solution

(Unless one does not exist)

[wind stump]

Murder! Murder! Murder!

A bit late for that, goody-two shoes...

[gaunt marten]

What the fuck is that outfit

[random steppe]

Very Jojo

[wind stump]

today on "Fun Facts With Yuri"

[wind stump]

i think it's a DLC thing
i just use it becausei t looks cool

it's hard to take this scene seriously when there's a tiny Patty doll just bouncing in the background

I-I
HOW DID SHE LEARN THAT?!?

[gaunt marten]

Google them

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/egosoft/status/1737488023821132280? @mossy flume @random steppe

[astral steeple]

https://blog.playstation.com/2023/12/20/ps-blog-game-of-the-year-2023-the-winners/?sf271052134=1

YES

[quiet swift]

are you going to link the article or just screenshot the entire thing?

[astral steeple]

i linked the article

above the two images

the screenshot was specifically for best ongoing game

[sour hill]

Lol GTA online above ff14

[astral steeple]

lol

[quiet swift]

Ah, daily free games have started

[static bluff]

The best time of the year. It's how I got FTL : Faster than Light

[sour hill]

Nice, some of my friends play this

[quiet swift]

It's definitely off to a good start

Now to see which game crashes the epic servers

[bronze abyss]

WHEEEEZE they tryna that hard to revive that game

it was dead within the first week

[thorny loom]

It’s apparently a part of capcom taiwan based on there website

So its not the main company branch

[visual hill]

Duke Nukem Forever Duel!!

[astral steeple]

yooooooooo

[hasty patio]

Not sure what to think about it. A meta-progression DLC and probably some changes to the lore too in some form.

[quiet swift]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1737525937812471863

[dire gate]

About time

[harsh kestrel]

Alright Microsoft, let's keep the ball rolling this way and make some hopefully good changes that can give a facelift to a lot of franchises that need it

[astral steeple]

hopefully they find a way to reboot the tony hawk franchise

And make like all of the 360 and og xbox ones backwards compatible

even if they cant relicense the music

[harsh kestrel]

Pro Skater 1+2 Remastered was the facelift that was needed after the joke that was Pro Skater 5

[astral steeple]

i enjoyed pro skater 5 tbh

it wasnt that bad at all

sure it wasnt like the other hawk games but it was still enjoyable and overall fun to play

[harsh kestrel]

I'm glad they're trying to bring back Guitar Hero again. I'm sorry, but Guitar Hero Live was a joke

[astral steeple]

only GH games i liked was 3 and world tour

and band hero

now i mainly just play harmonix's new rock band game lol

[thorny loom]

Tcher beat me to it lol

[thorny loom]

One less loose end

Also this is boobys replacement

https://fxtwitter.com/mattbooty?s=21&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[true maple]

No one can replace boobys

[green fulcrum]

[graceful bridge]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/12/first-wave-of-aaa-iphone-games-sees-a-big-new-release-and-a-notable-delay/

[random steppe]

IDK I'm more of a Matt Booty man myself

[green fulcrum]

Both?
Both.
Both is good.

[bronze abyss]

i saw RE4 recomended in app store recently and it kinda took me by surprise

though its a quite pleasant one,atleast theres a chance genuinely good games can appear on mobile now

[light gate]

https://www.polygon.com/24009247/ps5-sales-numbers-2023-sony

[sour hill]

It's not a bad console

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/OWCavalry/status/1737191106226630973/photo/1

good lord

[green fulcrum]

winter
tank top
sandals

[astral steeple]

oh yeah lol

[hasty patio]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/leaked-bradley-documents-war-thunder-forums-again/ Reset the clock.

[wind stump]

womp womp wommmmp

[true maple]

During the one winter i played overwatch, all the characters had comfy cold weather outfits and the Australian character had swim trunks and a pool floatie

[visual hill]

it's been a while since I played OW

I tend to run it once every 3 months or so and play a few hours

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/insidergamingig/status/1737540833279148203?

[thorny loom]

Jill braff

[green fulcrum]

This is so very relevant today (especially since it came out today ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfixXj-ly80

[graceful bridge]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/3901870709962551196

Starting today you’ll be able to mark specific games as private and they’ll disappear from anywhere they’d be viewed by someone other than you. That includes: your ownership, in-game status, playtime, and activity in that game.

So you can play certain games without alerting people that you launched it, or even that you own it.

[mossy flume]

But that's been a thing for a long time

I guess they've fixed the leaky aspects of private games

[graceful bridge]

The main change is you can mark a game Private before you even buy it. So it won't pop up in your Owned Games at all.

[mossy flume]

Ahh, neat

[rugged flax]

Oh good, now we can hide all the shitty furry porn VNs

[graceful bridge]

Private purchasing

• keeping your games private starts before you even make a purchase, so the new cart lets you mark a game as private before you check out.

[mossy flume]

Good

I have like 80 of them because of some humble bundle deal ages ago and would rather not have that visible to anyone

[sour hill]

Uh huh...

[random steppe]

The real use, is for when gamers boycott the next CoD game, but all secretly buy it anyway

So people can't shame them anymore

[sour hill]

Or for when you're embarrassed about having exchanged currency for Hogwarts game

[mossy flume]

Or, more accurately, disinterested in being harassed for enjoying a video game.

[random steppe]

I wonder what happens if you are currently playing a private game

It just shows as online?

[mossy flume]

You just show as online, it doesn't broadcast what you're doing

It also doesn't broadcast achievements, but someone can see that you own that game if they also own it

Private games are leaky

[sour hill]

Idk, if it were me I'd be pretty embarrassed!

[random steppe]

Because I can think of a number of good reasons to use that,
I'm at home "sick" from work but in reality it's because the new X just released, my coworker can't catch me in the act

[mossy flume]

Good for you

Yeah, in that case you can just mark your social status on Steam as invisible or offline

[random steppe]

Yeah still, "other person owns that game" I think shows up regardless

[mossy flume]

Yeah, it's not great

[random steppe]

Or at least used to

[mossy flume]

it'll show them your achievements then as well I think

[random steppe]

with these changes that might be different

[mossy flume]

Yeah, depending on when this kicks in

An unfortunate side effect is that, at least until now, setting a game to private also removed it from your client's list of games that you own and you had to go digging for it in multiple layers of Steam UI

I wonder if this fixes that stupidity

That option should be separate

Hide it from everyone else, but not also from myself

[thorny loom]

Surpised that update wasn’t released sooner

[mossy flume]

Yeah, this is an obvious thing that should've been done a decade ago

(Steam is full of such oversights)

[thorny loom]

Or even when they started approving adult games on the store

[mossy flume]

Yeah

The fact that they didn't do it then is bonkers

[quiet swift]

https://vxtwitter.com/Minecraft/status/1737504053385425141

[river veldt]

lol that's great

[visual hill]

Tony Hawk's Pro Quaker

[river veldt]

kratta what does this mean

[visual hill]

Quaker Oats

[sour hill]

this is what's known in the business as "comedy"

[visual hill]

it gets weirder… 👀

[astral steeple]

what game is that lol

[visual hill]

it's Xonotic, connected to a server that runs Quake as a mod, with cooperative play and custom maps

Xonotic uses a modified Quake engine, so it's possible to run Quake within Xonotic. It's compatible with most custom content created for it

[astral steeple]

ah ok

[minor belfry]

NFS Underground is pretty tough.

Especially one of the tracks.

[river veldt]

HOLY FUCK

random Man-Bat jumpscare

[minor belfry]

Ok seriously wtf. This is just a bizarre map.

[craggy vine]

Fuck I love the ambience underground in Urge

Got my speakers turned up and you get this sub 30 hz pulsing sometimes

[gaunt marten]

This change has been in beta for a while. It hides it from others, including friends, but not from you.

[gaunt marten]

Does any other platform implement private games?

[mossy flume]

Not that I know of

[gaunt marten]

I know GOG allows it if you simply launch games without Galaxy

[mossy flume]

But also it’s not really necessary? You have some stronger privacy settings on other platforms and you don’t necessarily have the ability to see what games your friends have. You can probably explore their achievements, but that’s it

[gaunt marten]

Steam already had a privacy setting to hide or show your full game list from friends

This change is for individual games

You can find the full game setting under profile > privacy settings

[mossy flume]

Yeah

[gaunt marten]

It doesn't really feel fair to call the setting not being present an oversight when they're the only platform to has it and also call it not really necessary at the same time

[mossy flume]

???

You can’t explore your friend’s libraries on Xbox or PlayStation as far as I’m aware

Thus it’s moot in those cases

You can disable exploration of your achievements if you want

You get some granular privacy settings there

[light gate]

I downloaded the Playstation app and was provided with a huge amount of privacy options.

[mossy flume]

Steam has always been all or nothing

[light gate]

Which was nice.

Yep.

Its a byproduct of old Steam. (VGUI)

[mossy flume]

Also hiding your entire games list on Steam has the side effect of breaking matchmaking with friends in some multiplayer scenarios

As Peach and I found out

Why this happens is completely mysterious

[mossy flume]

I think Xbox can even let you define privacy settings on a per-profile basis?? There’s some platform out there that can.

[light gate]

But it can't let you turn off those dashboard ads.

[mossy flume]

Yeah, fuck that shit

[gaunt marten]

Steam does not in fact allow you to hide what achievements you have unless you also hide your games, but it does have a degree of granularity where you can hide playtime from friends.

[light gate]

fucking paying a $500 shitbox I swear.

Well, not right now.

Its on sale on GameStop for like $399.

Clearly, people are buying Xboxes...

Anyhoo, the GTA VI trailer is now the most viewed trailer in Rockstar's channel.

It has surpassed GTA V's trailer.

sheesh

[craggy vine]

[gaunt marten]

https://vxtwitter.com/dannyvegito/status/1737615995458707561

The tweet is making fun of AAA games putting this feature into the game every time

[mossy flume]

Yeahhhhhhhh

[gaunt marten]

It's a good feature, though

It should just be marked as an accessibility feature

[dire gate]

Great game

Numbers high

stonks

[bronze abyss]

queen bee done,the fight was surprisngly fun compared to vanilla

[craggy vine]

Abandon truck. We are fucked.

[median cedar]

A goated game of mine as the black pieces (im 444 elo)

[strong pebble]

Where are you

[novel pine]

What game is this

[craggy vine]

Urge

[novel pine]

Thx

[little badger]

@thorny loom

[thorny loom]

Nice

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_clown/status/1737583673245872251?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

The fact so many people are playing the dev build of this now is kind surprising

[novel pine]

kinda looks like sleeping dogs lol

[rare garden]

2 hours until the next free epic games game releases

[sour hill]

Someone tell me if this game is mid or not

Mmelvor idle

Sounds mid

[quiet swift]

idle game crap, at first glance

[wind stump]

i live for idle game crap

[thorny loom]

Lmao @toxic seal

https://fxtwitter.com/moricalliope/status/1737841719906070674?s=20

[novel pine]

Mori calliope is the 2pac of our generation

[thorny loom]

Theres something funny about having an alcohol themed map in an E rated game

Budweiser map and skins when

[wind stump]

pls

[astral steeple]

Fort isn't E rated

It's T

Plus all games/experiences in fort have age ratings for them

So kid accounts couldn't even play on the map anyways

[thorny loom]

Oh its T now?

[astral steeple]

Its always been T

Since it released

[thorny loom]

Could have fooled me lol

[gaunt marten]

@grim stirrup a new cult inductee

[astral steeple]

It was never intended for kids to play but it ended up getting super popular with kids

[grim stirrup]

inducted into the cult

[thorny loom]

The new slim shady emote will never not be memetastic

[astral steeple]

Which is why they have "cabined" accounts with more restrictions on it

For kids who play

[gaunt marten]

I've been looking forward to playing Melvor Idle but disappointed that it's paid

I might grab the epic version if it doesn't require the launcher to keep playing

[grim stirrup]

i didn't even buy it, my account is grand fathered in

[astral steeple]

Also I just randomly remembered this is a thing lol

https://vxtwitter.com/rllywiz/status/1737490540176806281

[grim stirrup]

though i did by the dlc

[gaunt marten]

How crucial is the DLC?

[wind stump]

yeah is there an explanation why all the images are mcfucking broken?

[grim stirrup]

probably just server problems due to a bunch of people trying to load

[grim stirrup]

1st is essentially post game, 2nd people dont like

[gaunt marten]

I see

[sour hill]

I'm a person so I guess I won't like it

[wind stump]

i reinstalled, lmao

[sour hill]

You must've installed it wrong!

User error!

PEBCAK!

[bronze abyss]

child got owned

[visual hill]

heh, it looks like a Bootstrap website

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/gtaonlinenews/status/1737878275546898717?

[green fulcrum]

Hospital for life? What?

Why not jail?

[visual hill]

he was deemed legally irresponsible because of mental illness

[green fulcrum]

Oh

[visual hill]

whether it's a good move or not depends on whether jail sentences can be "truly" for life in your country

in France, they can't be, so going to jail may actually be "better" if you can eventually get freed on parole

hospital for life doesn't work like that, lifetime is lifetime

[gaunt marten]

Ironic because in GTA if you get wasted you get sent to the hospital and leave immediately

[green fulcrum]

Poetic

[visual hill]

I'm surprised they got this sentence though, this kind of thing mainly happens for murder, etc

[green fulcrum]

I don't think Steam knows what a CRPG is.

Every Steam game I played this year was a CRPG.

[gaunt marten]

Steam doesn't actually decide on these tags

These are user applied tags

[green fulcrum]

Then people don't know what a CRPG is.

[harsh kestrel]

Now if they could just do the same thing they did to the GTA 6 leaker to the ransomware dickheads that hacked Insomniac and literally put their employees in danger by revealing some of their private info

[gaunt marten]

You can help fix it by applying the correct tag to games missing

[green fulcrum]

They likely will, if they can catch them

[gaunt marten]

Through the store page

[sour hill]

I mean it could be, right?

[quiet swift]

At the risk of venturing into R2 territory, I wonder if going to the hospital in GTA 6 will now bankrupt you

If they want to keep up with the times~

[grim stirrup]

it essentially is, thats what i meant by it being due to to many players

[harsh kestrel]

They did say ending up in the hospital would be a lot more rough than in previous games. You probably lose all your weapons and all your cash now

[sour hill]

All your cash sounds about right

[gaunt marten]

Did you not already lose all your weapons?

[thorny loom]

Yeah for whatever reasons in gta 4 and 5 it was better to get wasted as you would at least keep your weapons compare to being arrested

[gaunt marten]

I only remember 3 where you lose a bunch or all weapons

[thorny loom]

The ps2 trilogy did that yeah

Lmao

https://fxtwitter.com/peterovo5/status/1737765499491045763?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/wario64/status/1737883170224365906?

[thorny loom]

Yeah. The massive blowback and the threat of seeing a surge in piracy probably did that

[quiet swift]

"for at least 30 months"

[thorny loom]

So 2 and half years

Thats fair enough time to record everything burn it on bluray

[gaunt marten]

https://steamdb.info/sales/history/

Winter sale starting in ten minutes

[thorny loom]

Nice

https://imgur.com/a/GCdcsw0

Spider man 3 maybe a 2 parter at $50-$60 each

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/12/21/a-300-million-spider-man-2-budget-sonys-future-and-aaa-unsustainability/?sh=500896bb3dc2

At current rate triple a industry is gonna hit a wall with dev cost and raising prices

[heady bridge]

The “bigger is better” mentality is literally killing the industry, well the AAA side anyway

[thorny loom]

Also more development bloat

Not every game needs hollywood talent in it.

[hushed onyx]

It’s the same problem as with movies, no one wants to pay for ten games that cost a million or a few tens of millions each and make maybe a few times that gross, they want to pay for a game that will gross a billion or more.

[random steppe]

I am very skeptical of those back othe napkin calculations based on game costs TBH

[gaunt marten]

Hmm https://i.imgur.com/74lz11D.png

[random steppe]

I mean it's gonna hit a wall in the sense that a game can't cost much more than that, but I definitely think that at 300M a big blockbuster game can still be very profitable

[gaunt marten]

I should drop my brother from my friend list

All his reviews are shit

https://i.imgur.com/ipFZKtA.png

[random steppe]

What game is it?

[gaunt marten]

Outer Wilds

[thorny loom]

Even with all the money they made apparently sony wants insominac to make budget cuts

[gaunt marten]

Only 40% discount this sale. Maybe next time

[random steppe]

Yeha but that doesn't mean the games weren't profitable

It mostly just means they want to make more money

[gaunt marten]

The current economic model of corporate America demands growth at all cost instead of sustainable growth

[thorny loom]

^

And its getting to a point where its gonna hit a wall

Just on the fact infinite growth isnt possible

[random steppe]

While all of these layoff sucks real hard, I'm starting to see it in a bit of a different light.
Experienced game developers that arrive on the market and ideally, will work on new projects at new companies sounds pretty good.

After all what AAA studios are doing, is essentially just hollowing out their talent pool and seeding their own fall when the next game can't reach the heights of the previous one they made.

[river veldt]

300m dollars for a game is insane

[random steppe]

Movies are routinely around that budget

Big blockbuster ones at least

[river veldt]

yeah and that's also insane

[light gate]

but 12k textures

[gaunt marten]

I agree

Games should be like 3 dollars