general gaming

[fresh bane]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2376260/Mariachi_Legends/

Steam

Mariachi Legends

You are Pablo Cruz, a Mexican detective selected by Lady Death herself to take on the greatest case of his career: Retrieving a mighty amulet that can undermine her power over the Realm of the Dead and disrupt el Día de los Muertos. Armed with the mighty La Sombra and a Mariachi suit imbued with supernatural powers, it's time for you to descend ...

Release Date

2024

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Steam Page doesn't have the trailer I saw with the fully animated sequences and more gameplay shown but damn

This is just Blasphemous but mexican instead of spanish and I'm more than down for that

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/halberdstudios/mariachi-legends-a-combat-oriented-metroidvania

There we go there's the full trailer

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/doesitplay1/status/1722955470095159322?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/goldenjoysticks/status/1723035313092628937?

[thorny loom]

Not surpised

RE4 was definitely horror game of the year

[visual hill]

I just finished RalliSport Challenge 2

[little badger]

Is it a short game?

[river veldt]

idk, Amnesia The Bunker was really good and so was Squirrel Stapler's independent release

[visual hill]

not if you 100% it, it took me 14 hours and that's with beating all stages handily

(the AI is really easy to beat, and there is no difficulty selection to bias it towards making it harder)

[little badger]

Ah right. Yeah I like racing games that make you get all the medals for like being in first place and beating the track time

[visual hill]

TIL you can loose wheels in this game (just tried this out in a single race, with heavy damage model)

it's possible and even rather fast and easy to drive with 3 wheels, using the handbrake to do anything more than a slight turn

that's a pretty extensive damage model for a game that has licensed cars

[little badger]

The graphics look good for a 2004 game.

[visual hill]

they do, I just realized I could force 16× anisotropic filtering on Xemu which makes the game look a lot better

[thorny loom]

No surprises here

https://fxtwitter.com/larianstudios/status/1723041045754040765?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/goldenjoysticks/status/1723034387934060549? @mossy flume @graceful bridge

[mossy flume]

Oh, Golden Joysticks already?

Neat

[teal cliff]

https://www.gamesradar.com/golden-joystick-awards-2023-winners/

okay so like

they didn't even nominate Goodbye Volcano High for best indie 🙄

[mossy flume]

Whaaaaat

Oh that's absurd

[gaunt marten]

Well there's been a lot of good indie games this year

[teal cliff]

At least GVH is probably going to win uh... whatever that one category is called at the Game Awards, games for impact?

my game of the year always tends to be that one

[mossy flume]

TGA games for impact will likely nominate it, yeah

[gaunt marten]

All the other nominations are excellent games https://i.imgur.com/HYFdAm6.png

[rose rose]

Can't nominate every game so

[teal cliff]

Sea of Stars is the only one of these I've played, and it's pretty good but I wouldn't put it above GVH personally. I have not heard of Cocooon or Viewfinder.

[gaunt marten]

Though I would not count Dave the Diver as Indie

[teal cliff]

who made it?

[gaunt marten]

A non-Indie company

[teal cliff]

I have never ehard of Mintrocket before admittedly

[gaunt marten]

Here's Coccoon and Viewfinder: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1497440/COCOON/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1382070/Viewfinder/

Steam

COCOON

From Jeppe Carlsen, the lead gameplay designer of LIMBO and INSIDE — COCOON takes you on an adventure across worlds within worlds. Master world-leaping mechanics to unravel a cosmic mystery.Worlds within WorldsCOCOON is a unique take on the puzzle adventure genre, where each world exists within an orb that you can carry on your back. Wrap your h...

Price

$24.99

Recommendations

1611

Metacritic

88

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Steam

Viewfinder

Challenge perception, redefine reality, and reshape the world around you with an instant camera. Viewfinder is a new single player game offering gamers hours of interesting and fun experiences while uncovering the mysteries left behind.Viewfinder is a mind-bending first person adventure game in which you can bring pictures to life by placing the...

Price

$24.99

Recommendations

3408

Metacritic

84

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[teal cliff]

oh Viewfinder is that puzzle game

okay I have seen that

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, we talked about all of these games in this channel

Mintrocket is a developer that's under Nexon, the Korean MMO company

[mossy flume]

Mintrocket is a subsidiary of a bigger company, Nexon

[gaunt marten]

Very big AAA company

[mossy flume]

For example

MapleStory you've likely heard of

[teal cliff]

I have heard of Nexon

I thought they were just the publisher but I see, they own Mintrocket.

[mossy flume]

Yeah, I didn't know that 'till just now either

[teal cliff]

then yeah not really an Indie probably but w/e

[gaunt marten]

If I had to nominate a list of the year's best indie games, I'd probably pick Goodbye Volcano High in the top ten

[teal cliff]

It is my current GOTY but I have not played Spiderman 2 yet.

We'll see how that goes.

[gaunt marten]

It's weird how Brotato is not included

Considering it's one of the top performing indie games of the year

[visual hill]

RIP, no Godot games in the nomineees

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/goldenjoysticks/status/1723026754611167350?

[teal cliff]

I should maybe play an Alan Wake game sometime.

[gaunt marten]

Dome Keeper would also make the list but it was released in 2022

[teal cliff]

I know nothing about either of them aside from them being like, horror-adjacent action games I think?

kinda like the Evil Within?

[mossy flume]

Oh boy I can't wait for Metroid Prime 4 to make GOTY soon [insert pony skeleton pic here]

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/goldenjoysticks/status/1723031997293990209? @river veldt

[mossy flume]

Pretty easy win there

[teal cliff]

what else was even going to compete for the Nintendo game of the year lol

Fire Emblem Engage I guess? I assume Super Mario Wonder was past the cutoff point

Oh right Pikmin 4 happened

-- Pikmin 4
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (winner)
Fire Emblem Engage
Metroid Prime Remastered
Octopath Traveller 2
Fae Farm

were the nominees. I suppose in any other year Pikmin probably takes it but my favs here are Octopath and Engage

[little badger]

Best game trailer https://fxtwitter.com/goldenjoysticks/status/1723021516437159984?

[mossy flume]

Everything about Phantom Liberty's visuals was incredible, in-game and all the cinematics they made. Well deserved.

The end credits sequence they made was awesome.

[teal cliff]

I think best trailer is a bit of a weird category

[mossy flume]

It is indeed. I just would've called it best CG cinematics or something and called it good.

[teal cliff]

Like are they rating it as the coolest trailer as an individual thing or the one that advertises its game the best or what?

[mossy flume]

I assume the intent is best artistic execution.

[teal cliff]

bc a really cool looking trailer might have literally zero gameplay footage or information, which would be annoying to me if I was trying to find out more about the game in question, but it might be a badass CG cutscene in it's own right

[rancid herald]

I’ve made a thread for this

Embrace it

[teal cliff]

I do think that a thread might be weird bc the discussion of it might just be over like really quickly, since the awards are over with, but I'll move there for now.

[mossy flume]

There's a thread?

[rose rose]

It has zero posts but it exists!

[mossy flume]

Just made

#1172610917356277910

[river veldt]

https://fixupx.com/amongusgame/status/1723063493610307911?s=46

[gaunt marten]

They don't even offer the maximalist option

All costumes are one part instead of having many interchangeable parts

[thorny loom]

Sigh

https://www.pcgamer.com/ubisoft-is-on-the-nft-sauce-again-a-new-partnership-with-web3-platform-immutable-aims-to-create-a-fresh-new-experience-that-players-will-love/

[dense crypt]

im a maximal

er i mean maximalist

[river veldt]

yeah but it's a funny image

[thorny loom]

“How bad can warzone microtransactions be”

looks up the weapon skins alone

Keep in mind theres about 10 skins per page

[harsh kestrel]

Ubisoft, I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons why Tencent had to bail you out of bankruptcy

[fresh bane]

Going through MGS2 I'm learning holy hell this game is tough

I've gotten found out like 4 times already in this area alone and direct confrontation is not this game's suit

[fresh bane]

also one of my favourite details I literally just found out about this game is Raiden's codec is shaped like a gun, and it's always pointing at his head the entire game

it could be a stretch, but the fact that Pliskin's Snake's codec is the same during the Tanker mission and knowing how Kojima is like, I choose to believe this was an intentional change

[river veldt]

YIPPEE

[fresh bane]

this feels like a very unsafe method of defusing claymores

[fresh bane]

the remake or the original?

[visual hill]

wake up, a source port for Sin landed out of nowhere today: https://rohit.itch.io/dominatrix

it has everything I wanted (native Linux port, HUD scaling)… of course, after I finished playing that game

[visual hill]

yeah, the reinforcement system goes really hard and hiding for long enough isn't always possible

[visual hill]

good catch 🙂

[fresh bane]

It's a real challenge, the only thing I wish this game had is better controls and all the options at my disposal like MGSV, then it would be a perfect game because I'm a big fan of classic MGS stealth but damn if I wish I could crouch walk and dive into the floor and stuff

I didn't catch it myself, which is why I only learned about it now I happened to read someone mention it and that's when I realized

I got played like a fiddle all these years

https://youtu.be/9egLjM139ms?si=_ymy9oTZwQvQSpIb

I don't know how different MGS2 and 3 are mechanically since I never actually got the chance to play 3 myself but I do still think that these games have crazy amounts of options and little details to exploit to create your own way to express yourself through the way you stealth (or not)

It's just not as apparent as MGSV because you need to really learn all the intricacies of the mechanics

One thing I learned from that video which I think works in MGS2: You can shoot the radios on the soldiers' chests to completely disable their comms and the backup group coming should they not respond

[visual hill]

yeah, it works in MGS2

you can also shoot cameras in 1st-person view to disable them

(it may be obvious but I've only started doing that last week)

[fresh bane]

Which is also a crazy good detail, makes the people I stealth around in Cyberpunk look like goofs in comparison

[river veldt]

da remake

it unlocks next week

[fresh bane]

The cameras are only destructable with lethal weapons right? Not with sleep rounds?

[visual hill]

yeah, you need to use a pistol/rifle

[fresh bane]

That's gonna be a problem I'll have to save up on chaff

[visual hill]

it's 1-shot on any part of the camera, no need to headshot the camera like in GoldenEye

(because yes, you can headshot cameras in that game by shooting their lens)

[fresh bane]

I sure wish I could put a silencer on the lethal weapons

[visual hill]

you can find one for the pistol

[fresh bane]

Snake gets a silencer on his socom in MGS1 why can't I get one?!

Oh nevermind

I'll have to find it then

[visual hill]

I've found it by chance, without specifically looking for it

[fresh bane]

I assume I'll find it eventually so I'm not gonna look it up right now, I'm trying to find the last bomb on strut E right now

It's fun looking up stuff about MGS2 because all you will find, or at least the first results, will all be old ass forum discussions and old websites

[visual hill]

yeah, I regularly stumble upon forum posts from 2002-2006

[fresh bane]

I don't know if I'm in the right spot here....

None of the doors under there open

[visual hill]

I like how the most effective way to quickly and stealthily kill an enemy sounds so stupid

[visual hill]

the silencer isn't here to my knowledge

or you have to crawl below something next to the locked doors at the end of the staircase on the left

[fresh bane]

Oh no I'm looking for the last bomb

[visual hill]

ah yeah, it's upstairs. Look on the right

[fresh bane]

''Ngh-ngh-nghngh-ngh-gnh!! Aaagh...''

I'm so used to 'modern' stealth that I forget in these games the stealth suit makes it so that your steps are barely audible at all unless you're running around on some noisy floors

As in, by default, no upgrades needed or anything, just no noise at all so you can do that kinda stuff

Olga!

I love that she was talking to someone on the radio and was like ''I saw some weirdo running around in a cardboard box''

[visual hill]

Thief taught me to avoid the tiled bathroom floor IRL, always walk on the carpet

[fresh bane]

Thief has been on my ''gotta play this sometime'' list for so long and I haven't gotten around to it yet

If you see a floor with a different texture never walk on it, that's what i learned

[visual hill]

it is possible to walk quietly on metal floors in Thief, but you need to 1) crouch, 2) walk, 3) tap the forward key, all at the same time

it's super slow but enemies won't hear you

[fresh bane]

You can also slow walk on this game too but I'm always too afraid of using it, enemies move too damn fast and they could turn around at any time while you slowly make your way there, way easier to just get them from afar

[gaunt marten]

Couldn't you just wear padded shoes?

[fresh bane]

I am wearing padded shoes

the floor is just too creaky

[gaunt marten]

More padding

Make your shoes out of aerogel

[fresh bane]

The pressure and weight applied would still make it creak, it's not the noise

gonna need hover shoes

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, Aerogel

[fresh bane]

I wanna say Raiden's skull suit is probably made of something way more advanced than aerogel considering tech in MGS's world, but I never actually looked it up

[gaunt marten]

It's made of skulls

[fresh bane]

The funniest part is, now that I'm looking it up, it seems like all stealth suits in MGS are more focused around providing enhanced strength and endurance/defense to the user than actually making you stealthier

All of them provide you with some sort of protection against elements and other hazards mainly but they're all just loosely made of some rubber like material and have some vague sound dampening tech

[slim thorn]

I got Thief 2 on sale a while back and keep not quite feeling like it when I have the time

[thorny loom]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-11-10/-world-of-warcraft-developers-at-blizzard-plan-to-make-faster-expansions?

[fresh bane]

I was planning on pirating thief because the games are so old I doubt I'm hurting anyone by doing it but they're dirt cheap on GOG I just never got around to actually getting them

[visual hill]

lol, I tried sniping a flying object and a bird just went past my scope and got shot instead

[fresh bane]

[thorny loom]

A streamer i watched got to the escort mission in mgs 3

They were told of the strat just knock out the escort and drag them around to your objective because its faster. So its honestly been hilarious

[sage raptor]

Moss arrows, too

[fresh bane]

''Vamp lost his family in a church bombing when he was a kid, he survived off of drinking blood until he was rescued''
''Oh, so that's why he's called Vamp...''
''No, it's because he's bisexual''

I still love how Snake says this, he says it like ''No dummy it's because he's bisexual, duh''

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/tombraider/status/1723103176901992679?

[river veldt]

this is so funny omg

[visual hill]

I just finished the Harrier boss fight

[fresh bane]

I just fought Fatman, got him first try, non lethal too

ayyyyy

[dense crypt]

MORE BOMBS

[fresh bane]

''In a couple years, you too will be in one of these ''

[visual hill]

it's possible to kill bosses non-lethally?

[wind stump]

i beat episode 3 of Umineko
pain

all i feel is pain

[fresh bane]

The Paaaiiiinnn! 🐝 🐝 🐝

[fresh bane]

Of course

disguise time!

[visual hill]

Amogus Gear Solid: Sus of Liberty

[quiet swift]

[fresh bane]

Aw man, Rose just told me she looked into where Solid Snake was buried and that it's 100% confirmed he's dead so the Dead Cell leader can't possibly be Solid Snake
Bummer, would've loved to meet him face to face oh well...

Pliskin will have to do I guess

[thorny loom]

This reminds me of drake and josh https://www.pcgamer.com/call-of-duty-goes-final-destination-on-cheaters-by-pancaking-them-straight-into-the-map/

https://youtu.be/AQz53jhbOqI?si=5r-5XTBlWBme1UH3

[fresh bane]

Oh my god getting this damn AK from the Strut F warehouse is such a pain

I'm getting found out a million times

I'm not good at this game...

[visual hill]

me neither, I tend to bruteforce a bit

[fresh bane]

Oh my god I just fired off the M4 as soon as I got it and alerted everyone

What am I even doing

I did get the SOCOM supressor finally

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/tEHAzf-2Pjs

[gaunt marten]

https://vxtwitter.com/OatmealDome/status/1723122735683952656

[river veldt]

how did this happen again

[gaunt marten]

I'm excited because this is a win for preservation

[fresh bane]

that didn't take long

[river veldt]

it's not even out yet

this happened with Wonder too

and then it was 2 weeks early for TotK

[fresh bane]

[river veldt]

what does this mean

[young creek]

hopefully they will have this fixed for the next console

im sure thats a big priority for them at this point

[fresh bane]

People would find a workaround

they always do

[gaunt marten]

Survivor bias

[young creek]

would they

[gaunt marten]

It's not a guarantee

[young creek]

from my understanding this is only a problem with nintendo exclusives

i didnt hear anything about spider-man leaking weeks in advance or baldurs gate

[mossy flume]

Preload. It's actually pretty easy to extract and decrypt it.

[mossy flume]

For TotK that happened because some copies were lifted from the physical cartridge supply chain.

[rose rose]

Is it? There is no reason this should be easy or even remotely possible

[mossy flume]

It's where it comes from. Don't ask me how the keys are acquired, though.

[gaunt marten]

Well on a switch where you control the OS through other exploits

[mossy flume]

Every time preload happens the game hits the torrent networks within a few hours.

[rose rose]

Controlling the OS would not help in a sane system

[gaunt marten]

Indeed it would not

[rose rose]

They just wouldn't give out keys until it actually ships

If their preload system actually trusts the system to just not launch the game then a) that is insane and also b) surely they would just stop using it until they fixed it

I figure there must be something deeper going on.

[mossy flume]

Having checked with a Switch emulator developer, I stand corrected; it's always from a physical cart.

[rose rose]

Seems much more plausible.

[mossy flume]

But Nintendo did used to ship the decryption keys ahead of time

But that was on 3DS

[mossy flume]

So yeah, that's previous LTS version of Unity

[gaunt marten]

Makes sense to me

No runtime fee

[mossy flume]

Runtime fee doesn't apply until next year's LTS version

[teal cliff]

More people should play

goodbye volcano high

[gaunt marten]

I'm waiting for a good sale

[teal cliff]

isn't it like 20$?

[gaunt marten]

$12 in my region, but I'm poor

Typically, I'm fine waiting for a few years until a game is cheap enough to buy, and polished enough to have all I could expect from it, and this works because games don't become less good with age and I rarely interact with the community

[sage raptor]

4k screenshot, game runs perfectly on ryujinx

[gaunt marten]

You already have it running?

[sage raptor]

Yuzu wasn't playing any music for some reason

[gaunt marten]

You should make sure to tag it with spoilers because there's a few people here who don't want to know much about the game before they can play it

[sage raptor]

I'm not going to post anything else

just letting everyone know it works

[river veldt]

this looks so good omg

[thorny loom]

thats entirely nintendo fault for the exploits in V1 switch models

as for how the game leaks early. Min wage Gamestop or other workers steal or take a copy and upload it on the internet

[dire gate]

Physical cartridge/cd leaking is quite literally impossible to prevent

[thorny loom]

yes its why most companies nowadays dont even have discs or carts in "physical media"

or they do but you have to install a patch to get the game working anyway as that weeds out any leakers

but yeah if your wondering how the keys and stuff are decrypted its via Model 1 switches which are running homebrew software. It's impossible to patch so there is nothing nintendo can do about it other than take down download leaks as they happen

[mossy flume]

The other Switch models like the OLED version are possible to mod as well, but it requires a modchip.

[thorny loom]

also very specific firmware installations

[mossy flume]

I'm not actually seeing anything on the modchip pages that say you need a specific firmware version... are they just... forcefully overwriting the NAND?

I don't get what they're doing here

[rose rose]

Once you own the hardware it does seem reasonable the firmware version wouldn't matter.

[thorny loom]

AH thats how its done

the chip makes the cpu glitch so it fails a check that prevents unsigned payloads from running

https://wololo.net/2023/03/21/picofly-the-3-nintendo-switch-hacking-modchip-is-real-and-its-now-available/

[mossy flume]

Oh ha I was just about to link that

That's not the v6 Instinct, which seems to be the leading chip, but I can't find info on where to buy it. Finding the proper modchips seems to be a lot harder than it used to be.

[thorny loom]

my guess. most went underground when nintendo was going after TOTK stuff

[mossy flume]

Last modchip I got was for the Wii

Wasn't hard to find a seller

But now the best I can find are forum posts

But yeah, a pi pico would make sense

[thorny loom]

but yeah i wont be surprised if nintendo starts moving away from PM with the switch 2 and adopts the practices of Xbox and Playstation DRM

[robust latch]

im soo glad i have a V1 switch. i could never do the fine soldering for modchips

[mossy flume]

I haven't yet felt the need to mod my Switch.

Once Nintendo stops supporting it I probably will.

[bronze abyss]

id mod mine if it wasnt a redbox

[mossy flume]

Oh I found a modchip seller

Looks like a DIY kit goes for about $90

A RP2040 would just cost you like $5

[bronze abyss]

wonder how much do the local console modders mod switches for,since it would probably be cheaper than buying the chip and a soldering kit

and potentially fucking it up

[mossy flume]

It requires precision soldering, yeah

Not too hard, but it is possible to brick it

Gotta have soldering skills up to the task.

[bronze abyss]

i hvae really shaky hands so i probably physically cant do it

not to mention the nerves adding up to it when theres potential to lose a 300$ tech item

same reason why i paid someone to solder my keyboard

[gaunt marten]

What did you solder the keyboard for?

[bronze abyss]

the switches need to be soldered to the PCB

[gaunt marten]

Oh that makes sense

[bronze abyss]

since my primary PCB doesnt have hotswap for reliability reasons(playing rhythm games can often break hotswap sockets and changing them individually is inconvenient as fuck)

[bronze abyss]

honestly think epic should just leave in og br as a permanent mode at this point,if they did it with zero build which completely violates the fundamentals of the game then they should be able to do this too

theres very clearly a demand ffor it,from culture relevance to the numbers to actual enjoyment of it its a huge jump from what it was becoming

[random steppe]

People like it because of nostalgia

[gaunt marten]

Nostalgia is a huge cash cow nowadays

[random steppe]

3 months form release Vanilla WoW servers were dead, I expect this will go down the same way if they make it a permanent thing

[bronze abyss]

its a huge part of it for many fs,but theres also actual gameplay reasons why, like it being simpler and closer to its fundamentals,what it was meant to be at first

[random steppe]

They were actually really smart to make it a season each week for a bit

IDK I didn't play enough fortnite to tell, what I know tho, that not always the most balanced and well designed game is the one that people like.

[bronze abyss]

like the pre-og fortnite was actually a horrific needlessly overcomplicated mess of gimmicks from NPC raids in games to items that overpower anyone with no way to fight back and more NPCs that sell overpowered guns with currency that is kept between matches

[river veldt]

yeah it was funny

[bronze abyss]

maybe but atleast in fortnite theres also a huge competitive market,its by no means small and at some point maybe was even bigger than the casual side so it should not be neglected like that

not to mention that they already have the ability to seperate it, and to some degree have(badly) but just refuse to do so properly*

[gaunt marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/17s9bzm/ace_in_pokemon_fire_red_has_been_discovered/

    mon 1 consumes item

    switch to mon 2

    mon 2 gets knocked off (probably in double battle)

    mon 2 uses recycle

    recycle overwrites mail permanently

https://www.twitch.tv/machwing/v/1973654509?sr=a&t=3600s
Video with the arbitrary code execution glitch that forces the game to send you to the credits

It's faster than the TAS speedrun without that trick

[mossy flume]

Ohhhhh nice

New ACE is always fun to see

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, there's now a credit warp in every game prior to gen 5

[fresh bane]

woaaahoohoooo

a Ghost Babel reference

wow

[minor plover]

this was a good recommendation. Thanks. She's enjoying it.

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/StumbleGuysGame/status/1723030418344353990

how the fuck did the ripoff version of fall guys get a spongebob collab lmao

[minor plover]

awww yeah, wordle in 2. I usually do both starting words, but sometimes I get so many letters that I'm like "lemme just check to see if I can do this without the other word"

[mossy flume]

Given the trajectory of sales over the past few sales reports, it appears to me that the Switch is on a likely trajectory to become Nintendo’s best selling console ever. Which would mean it’s also threatening to overtake the PS2 to become the bestselling games console, period.

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/11/07/nintendo-switch-surpasses-132-million-units-sold-alongside-great-tears-of-the

[rose rose]

Unless sales suddenly drop to zero because it's replaced

[visual hill]

Time for a treat! 🍰

[gaunt marten]

Excellent

[quiet swift]

https://vxtwitter.com/Cromwelp/status/1723040712726372708
"Help! I can't hold all these [BG3 AWARDS]"

[wind stump]

i now headcanon that FNaF and Umineko/Higurashi share a universe
i will accept no questions about this

[dire gate]

[wind stump]

(Umineko) ||oh my god i'm going to die||

[dire gate]

die(physically)

[slim thorn]

I respect that

[bitter stream]

understandable

[feral tulip]

Gamers and gays

We won

[river veldt]

@feral tulip I had to delete it because it's from a leak, please be wary of spoilers as the game leaked just yesterday and doesn't come out for a week

[feral tulip]

Well I mean it's a game older than most of us

[slim thorn]

remakes usually aren't identical to the original, so they get their own spoiler period

[mossy flume]

Also a lot of us haven’t played it before

[feral tulip]

Yea ik, I'm just saying it's a scene everyone's seen. I was just showing that it's still in the remake

https://fxtwitter.com/MarioBrothBlog/status/1723393105389379977?t=Idinu4Aohba_RVC9xqDTuQ&s=19

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

(Umineko Question Arc Episode 4) ||You know aside from the clearly murdered child this scene is really wholesome. The CGs in this game are good shit.||

[fresh bane]

I've never been malding so hard before at a game I went from nearly reaching Plat with Juri to barely hanging on in Gold 3 and losing literally every single match for weeks

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-rarity-gif-13521231

Either I suddenly suck or suddenly every single dude playing this game is acting like there's a million dollars on the line every match
or both

[chilly mural]

are you drive rushing more?

[fresh bane]

Not particularly I have a lot of bad habits I keep doing but I've never had a losing streak this bad for this long

I always keep losing matches when they're just a light punch away from me winning which makes it worse

[chilly mural]

[fresh bane]

Probably should watch some high level matches to try and learn anything at all

My biggest weakness by far is my mental game is weak as shit I get tilted so easy if you're dominating me and start tbagging to show off I'd probably lose my mind

[graceful bridge]

Okay, when even Adam Savage is reviewing a thing, you've nailed it.
https://youtu.be/WfoLRmKwnSI?si=exvCslomsBUwyFeo

[chilly mural]

good for you there is a lot of fighting games videos about "THE MENTAL""

infact, with my experience seeing and playing fighting games for years, thats what it really comes down to when you play

[fresh bane]

I could go into training or combo trials and practice my combos for days unless I get better about that I'm never climbing up or getting better, I do need to practice combos just to get the muscle memory down so I can maximize the damage I do but I never aim to practice these crazy long combos just simple easy stuff I can reliably do everytime

[chilly mural]

I don't practice the crazy long combos either

[fresh bane]

Something I keep doing that seems harmless but isn't is I keep defaulting to using heavy punches and kicks as my pokes and I really need to stop doing that because it just leaves me wide open every single time and I don't know why it's a thing I do

[chilly mural]

just simple reliable stuff that will get me a knockdown so I can start my Okizeme/Pressure/Mixups

[fresh bane]

I need to practice using my fuhas more with Juri because I'm not taking full advantage of that mechanic yet

Once I get back to gold 4-5 I'm probably gonna take it easy on ranked because this is soul crushing but I need to get back up first I can't stay barely hanging onto gold 3

I can't allow that

I actually need to go back to GGST too I heard they added new stuff a little bit ago so I wanna see what's new

I haven't played with my corner queen waifu in a long time

[chilly mural]

i-no?

[fresh bane]

Ram

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-valentine-guilty-gear-strive-taunt-gif-26051294

I do play a bit of Ino too but I'm not great at it

[gaunt marten]

https://youtu.be/gFtiQ2ElI0o

Neat channel

The person making it is clearly an amateur, but he's nice

[sage raptor]

Lmk if you want to spar in SF6. I'm low platinum with ken and ryu, so about your skill group.

[fresh bane]

I hate Kens and Ryus

They always beat me up

[wind stump]

shoto

[fresh bane]

with their damn fireballs and dps and strong solid inputs

[sage raptor]

I love their gameplay

But Juri is super cool too

[flint iron]

I always flinch in person whenever Ryu hits me with a collar bone breaker because out of every street fighter move, that seems the most painful for me

[chilly mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZberEwvV4pc new liam triforce

at tallcat

[sage raptor]

SotC is one of my alltime faves

[wintry canopy]

I finally got back to Gold rank in master duel.

[river veldt]

Hades is coming to iOS through Netflix some how

https://fixupx.com/uesp_net/status/1723204232097026231?s=46

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/it-only-took-hours-for-modders-to-crowbar-4k-support-into-the-metal-gear-solid-master-collectionnow-theyve-added-ultrawide-high-res-ui-support-and-more/

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/iG6NHuv.png

https://i.imgur.com/3kGXc6w.png

Gee, I wonder what would happen if I break this golden pillar

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

(Umineko Question Arc Episode 4) ||WAS THAT THE BITE OF '87||

[gaunt marten]

'87

She looks too young to know 1987

[dire gate]

That's 1998

At least that's how it is set up

[gaunt marten]

Oh she's born 1980 and the story is 18 years after

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2279330/Savant__Ascent_REMIX/

Steam

Savant - Ascent REMIX

Get ready for an adrenaline-filled elevator ride through a robot-infested tower. Wield powerful magic, and acrobatic moves as you reclaim the Alchemist’s domain from a horde of mechanical fiends.A follow-up to the award-winning Savant - Ascent, this fast paced adventure sets you off on a new path to greater heights! As a collab with musical arti...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

144

Metacritic

79

▶ Play video

Excellent twin sick shooter. A bit short

[rancid herald]

does anyone know what the age rating of the nintendo switch is?

[gaunt marten]

The switch itself?

There's no age rating for consoles. Age ratings are for videogames

[rancid herald]

but usually there's age ratings for like, 3-80 or whatever

like most toys have such ratings

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, the Switch itself is not a toy though, so the rating is dependent on the games you run with it

On toy age ratings, Wikipedia says Manufacturers often display information about the intended age of the children who will play with the toy. In the U.S. this label is sometimes mandated by the CPSC, especially for toys which may present a choking hazard for children under three years of age.

You can see a table of various safety standards here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_safety#Safety_standards

[hushed onyx]

So, my sister has been playing Spore recently and was wondering what other games existed that might match the appeal (to her) of the space stage. I asked what she liked about the space stage and she said:

I like the economics of getting goods from one area and finding places to trade them at a higher price, and the expansion of an empire

Based on that I suggested Elite Dangerous or Stellaris, with a more questionable suggestion of No Man's Sky, but I was wondering if you all had any ideas.

[uneven epoch]

civ v?

[hushed onyx]

If she had wanted something like that wouldn't she have asked for something similar to the civilization stage?

[uneven epoch]

uh. civilization stage in spore doesnt really have the more indepth trade of goods aspect to it as space stage does

so if lookin for resources and expandin is what she liked about spore space stage, then that sounds similar to civ v to me

[hushed onyx]

What I was saying was that I think she thematically wanted a space game, hence my suggestions of space games.

[dire gate]

beyond earth

[uneven epoch]

well she didnt specify she liked the space setting

or at least ur message didnt seem to suggest that

[gaunt marten]

Offworld Trading Company

[uneven epoch]

i focused on the "I like the economics of getting goods from one area and finding places to trade them at a higher price, and the expansion of an empire" part

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/271240/Offworld_Trading_Company/

Steam

Offworld Trading Company

Mars has been colonized. Now, Earth's greatest corporate titans have been invited to build companies to support it. The competition to dominate the market is fierce in this fast-paced economic RTS from Civilization IV lead Designer, Soren Johnson.Venture to Mars to Earn Your FortuneWith space travel becoming a reality and the easy-to-reach resou...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

3373

Metacritic

78

▶ Play video

[hushed onyx]

Right, but like I played a lot of Spore back in the day so I know a lot of that in the space stage involves flying around in a spaceship and interacting with the space environment, so I suspected that the space element was alos appealing. Also, she noted that she had already encountered the recommendation of Stellaris a lot. And of course I know my sister better than you do I might bring up the idea to her though.

[arctic fern]

You could suggest the Anno series of games, they're literally all about logistics

[gaunt marten]

I also liked Space Pirates and Zombies 1, Galaxy on Fire 2 (it's an android game)

[arctic fern]

Off world trading is also good

[gaunt marten]

and Starpoint Gemini 2 https://store.steampowered.com/app/236150/Starpoint_Gemini_2/

Steam

Starpoint Gemini 2

Captain your own space ship and roam the galaxy in 3D in this tactical space simulator with tons of RPG depth ! Space has never looked so inviting - but images can betray...It has been two years since the end of the second Gemini war, the situation in the wartorn system is further from resolution than ever. The collection of freedom fighters nam...

Price

$34.99

Recommendations

2962

Metacritic

70

▶ Play video

[uneven epoch]

i just feel like in that case you couldve reworded your request of recommendations

since there was no "make sure its space game"

but thats a null point anyway. hope she has fun whatever she ends up with

[hushed onyx]

I just thought it was kind of obvious from the fact that she mentioned the space stage specifically and I had suggested three "space games" in turn.

(Or rather I didn't think about it because it seemed so obvious to me)

[random steppe]

Ok so, for Warframe players

You should watch this, because it's really funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHD1d9QffM

It's so blatant

[slim thorn]

still great

[mossy flume]

Such a good game

[alpine haven]

4 man squad all with same skins, on bronze 4

💀

[chilly mural]

https://vxtwitter.com/Rainbow6Game/status/1723785371211669868

sure, yeah I guess

[river veldt]

that guy is nowhere near as beefy as Ryu smh

[chilly mural]

ryu, from streets

[visual hill]

technically it could be used starting from age 3 (the minimum age for small parts that could be eaten by young children), but in practice I'd expect this to be 6
that reminds me, games have this information on the back of the box in France: "A basic level of reading is required to fully appreciate this game"

[sour hill]

That disclaimer can't stop me because I can't read

[rancid herald]

I see

[fresh bane]

❗

It can't be!

[visual hill]

I got a fair bit further than you at this point, I'm starting to feel the true MGS spirit. 👀

[visual hill]

(I've never played MGS2 before, I won't spoil)

[fresh bane]

Solidus was the original Armstrong, he's so cool

No need to worry about spoiling me, I already know all the MGS lore like the back of my hand

[visual hill]

ah, you use the English dub

I know there is a French dub which is apparently quite good, at least for MGS1

I still played in English because I'd have to suffer PAL framerates otherwise

[fresh bane]

There's no spanish dub of MGS that I'm aware of, this is the default settings for some reason it defaulted into spanish

[visual hill]

a lot of games default to your system language on PC

[random steppe]

On Steam they deaful to the settings you put in Steam

[fresh bane]

That's what I thought but my system language isn't Spanish

[visual hill]

…or it tries to guess based on keyboard layout

I've read somewhere that GTA III and Vice City censor themselves in countries like France based on keyboard layout, rather than system language

(to make things worse, the censorship affects gameplay in many ways, making it much more challenging)

I played the game with censorship initially and didn't realize that

[random steppe]

Sucks to be french canadian I guess

[sour hill]

It's so good

[visual hill]

so far, MGS really feels special, it's one of the few games where I really pay attention to the story, watch all cutscenes, etc

[fresh bane]

Rules of Nature!

I love RAY

[slim thorn]

I am glad I played MGS 1-3 before MGR because it made the opening RAY fight much more hilarious

[fresh bane]

|| Raiden does still fight like 3 RAYs at once at the end of MGS2 way before he was a cyborg ||

[visual hill]

oh by the way, do you know you can zoom during a cutscene?

I found this by chance early on by mashing buttons during cutscenes

[fresh bane]

I do

[visual hill]

that, and making your character reply positively/negatively during codecs

and zoom on their faces with L3/R3

[fresh bane]

I knew about the zooming in but not the other one

I love that Raiden just now finds out Pliskin was Snake and immediately goes into a fangirl mode

'Y-you're a legend!!! ''

[visual hill]

the reply also varies depending on the character you're talking to

it has no effect, it's just cosmetic

[fresh bane]

Oh my god I'm dying over and over trying to pick up this stupid ration lol

[visual hill]

it's hard but it is possible

never stop running, do a 180 with a large enough radius at the bottom of the staircase

[fresh bane]

I got it but ended up dying at a falling platform

I'm at Shell 2 now thankfully

Oh god the uniform shows up in cutscenes

Looks good on ya Raiden

[chilly mural]

Ay dios mio!

https://fxtwitter.com/MyMyMavka/status/1723792042826883350 @fresh bane

[fresh bane]

Ponytail Juri is so pretty

my Juri's got her hair down and glasses and the Js 👟

[fresh bane]

[dense crypt]

nnnnNNNEEEEEEEEEEERD

[fresh bane]

Oh no I have to carry this nerd now

oh hah, that's adorable, you have to hold her hand

[white phoenix]

just knock her out

[visual hill]

stealth mission - escort mission
FU-SION

you now have the stealth escort mission, the gamer's favorite. 👀

[visual hill]

I used the wrong button to grab her hand and almost choked her at first

[white phoenix]

lol kojima thought of everything

tranqing her probably makes it easier

[fresh bane]

''You know about GW?''
''Of course, I created it''
''Huh?''
''You look surprised. What's wrong, cat got your tongue? ''

Don't sass me you nerd

[fresh bane]

''Raiden, take care of my sister''

Raiden: CQC combo

[fresh bane]

and an underwater level too

[harsh kestrel]

You know your game is down bad when this man up and leaves you

https://youtu.be/deg5xMOAUnU?si=6udJPHUHsAjsk95V

[fresh bane]

Rose : There wasn't anything in your room -- only a bed and a small
desk. It looked like a prison cell... No television set... no
family pictures... not even a poster...
Raiden : Rose, I only use that room for sleeping.
Rose : A lifeless room... almost like your empty heart.

Jesus christ Rose chill out, the man's a minimalist nothing wrong with that

Rose literally unironically just ''men really live like this and think it's okay'' 'd Raiden

[rugged flax]

https://youtu.be/QwDHxs4ux3Q

for all of y'all with BG3

[hushed onyx]

I don't even have a desk in my bedroom 🙃

(For exactly the reason given by Raiden...I only use the room for sleeping and spend most of my time elsewhere)

[fresh bane]

To be fair the reasoning for Raiden's room being like that is meant to be because of his deep trauma as a child soldier and the fact that he has no family and suppressed the hell out of his childhood but yeah some people are just minimalist

https://vxtwitter.com/GenePark/status/1723788791347925473

also speaking of MGS, Kojima's review system is great

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, you mention everything good about it

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/after-her-videos-inspired-by-surreal-90s-pre-rendered-horror-games-blew-up-this-tiktok-star-is-making-an-actual-surreal-pre-rendered-horror-game/

[dapper cedar]

does VRChat qualify as game? someone uploaded a world and it's my favorite thing ever

[teal sonnet]

sure it does

what world? show mee

[dapper cedar]

a recreation of the old Figment ride, cannot visit without crying

[teal sonnet]

this looks awesome

[dapper cedar]

is simply called The Imagination Pavilion in search
no doubt i will be going back several times, very comfy map

[peak berry]

mp40

[mossy flume]

Been a minute since I’ve played New Leaf

[rotund forge]

This is why I'm nervous to jump on Tomadachi Life again...my NPC's must hate me for abandoning them!

[mossy flume]

Another one of my villagers just straight up thought I was dead

[quiet swift]

"Thought you were dead. Well anyway, lay out your arms..."

[visual hill]

my room is actually a lot like that, though in my defense I do have a TV because it's my monitor 😛

once I move, I will probably add a poster or two

[dire gate]

https://fxtwitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1724064578089234492

As you would expect, people are yet again coping for Silksong

[visual hill]

https://twitter.com/PoweredbyidTech/status/1723733954631450975

[rotund forge]

I want someone to make an indie game called indie game or indie world. Just for the joke: I created the indie game! or I got a whole Nintendo Direct to myself! or something lol

[arctic fern]

that woud... result in 3 lawsuits before you even finished the first line of code

[rotund forge]

Ah man...

[thorny loom]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/11/13/xbox-wonka-chocolate-controller/

[arctic fern]

...no

thats horrible

[rotund forge]

I swear to EVERYTHING in the universe, this is one of the dumbest waste of money I have seen from a hardware company...

[dire gate]

"Edible controller" is such a misleading term

It's a controller shaped chocolate and a chocolate colored controller

[wind stump]

... that's not hard drive

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/ea-might-not-care-about-dungeon-keeper-anymore-but-this-open-source-4k-remake-spent-15-years-in-the-making-to-reach-version-10/

https://keeperfx.net/

[dense crypt]

Alternatively, get Dungeons 4 which came out a few days ago

[thorny loom]

Thats also a good game yes

[rancid herald]

we live in cursed times

[slim thorn]

joke games like DLCQuest might be the closest we get to this

[quiet swift]

https://idlethumbs.social/@ja2ke/111396017651485944 this is a cool thread

[quiet swift]

https://insider-gaming.com/full-list-of-the-game-awards-2023-nominees-revealed/

[gaunt marten]

The GTA 6 trailer isn't getting nominated for game of the year? Corruption!

[teal cliff]

I KNEW IT LMAO

Games for Impact is always where they shove the best games.

oh wait we have #1172610917356277910

[gaunt marten]

Games for impact is the "We thought this game was bad but a lot of people disagreed." Category

[river veldt]

lfg Wonder got a nom

[quiet swift]

lfg?

[river veldt]

"let's fucking go"

[teal cliff]

games for impact is the GOTY with extra steps category

[gaunt marten]

Let's fucking go

[quiet swift]

God damn whippersnappers taking over acronyms

That's Looking for group, clearly

[gaunt marten]

Tchernobog knows it as Looking for Group

[quiet swift]

[gaunt marten]

Man, university WiFi is so slow

[quiet swift]

I just type fast

[gaunt marten]

Yeah but CaptainMario doesn't

I just get posts slow and send them slow

[fresh bane]

Hi Fi deserved a GOTY nomination

also where's Dead Space?

[teal cliff]

We are not nominating remakes that don't change anything

If a remake wins GOTY it has to be like, the resident evil remakes, where they're effectively new games.

[gaunt marten]

In other words remakes are eligible but remasters are not

I have never heard of Tchia and Venba

[river veldt]

i havent heard of any of the games for impact games

[quiet swift]

dinosaur high school band with incoming extinction meteor

[gaunt marten]

We've talked about Chants of Sennar, Goodbye Volcano High and Terra Nil repeatedly on this channel

[river veldt]

i guess i just never saw

[teal cliff]

the art direction category is very limp this year tbh

there were games with cooler art direction than the nominees.

fwiw spiderman 2 SWEEPS this category

[thorny loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/591313805603242022/1173679928689041540/image.png?ex=6564d59c&is=6552609c&hm=22db2f008480dca058e601bedb8e443bc4409bf45efa939afd6872b01136e6f4&

Context: That's bungie's recently-let-go community support person.

[fresh bane]

SF6 has incredible accessibility options

Best in any fighting game to date

[teal cliff]

eehh, still pretty badly implemented in some respects.

game is basically unplayable for people with limited motor function because of the really questionable way modern controls work.

[green fulcrum]

Honestly, this is a toss up between Baldur's Gate 3, No Man's Sky, and FF14. ALl three of those games have excellent community support.

[gaunt marten]

SF6 has the best fighting game accessibility so far, but there's a long way to go

[green fulcrum]

But no, Destiny 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 are nowhere near good enough to win the community support award.

[teal cliff]

what is community support supposed to mean in this context

[thorny loom]

Especially after what bungie management did

[green fulcrum]

Although Cyberpunk might win a "best expansion" award if such a thing exists.

[thorny loom]

“Recognizing a game for outstanding community support, transparency and responsiveness, inclusive of social media activity and game updates/patches”

[green fulcrum]

As well as listening to feedback and implementing changes that positively affect a user's experience.

[teal cliff]

dammit where is GVH

[green fulcrum]

So yeah, Destiny 2 at the very least shouldn't be anywhere CLOSE to this category. They're dead last.

GVH?

[quiet swift]

...There's an award for "most anticipated game"?

[green fulcrum]

BG3 has that in a bag.

[quiet swift]

mashes the Hades 2 button

[green fulcrum]

Or maaaaybe Starfield

[fresh bane]

The game doesn't just have Modern controls but also Dynamic controls, and regardless I didn't say the game has perfect accessiblity for absolutely every single person, just that it's the fighting game with the best accessibility options out there

[gaunt marten]

Hollow Knight Silksong had the highest number of steam wishlists recently

[green fulcrum]

For best indie game I personally think Sea of Stars should win, but I am biased towards RPGs in general, soooo...

[green fulcrum]

Ah, true

[fresh bane]

Phantom Liberty by itself is nominated for best narrative

[teal cliff]

You cannot use them against other people.

[teal cliff]

goodbye volcano high

it's sad that the anticipated category is way more enticing to me than the goty category was.

[green fulcrum]

I'm not too familiar with Phantom Liberty to say if it qualifies for that or not. If it does, cool.

[fresh bane]

Of course you can't, but that's not really the point

[fresh bane]

I haven't even gotten to it but the base game is nominated for other categories too like the ongoing game and community support categories

So PL is considered a new game I guess

[teal cliff]

Playing against other people is one of the main draws of the game.

[green fulcrum]

Ngl, even if it was a good game, I saw so very little hype and interest around it that I'm not surprised it didn't make the list.

It was veeeeeery niche

[fresh bane]

That has nothing to do with whether or not the accessibity option exists

[river veldt]

oh man i am excited for FFVII Rebirth

[young creek]

why isnt Silksong on most anticipated

are they crazy

[bleak lintel]

Everyone has given up hope.

[fresh bane]

I heard it was very mid

[teal cliff]

If it exists and you can't use it, what is the point of it

[young creek]

no its coming soon trust me..

[fresh bane]

Nobody really talked about it either

[teal cliff]

It was very good.

[fresh bane]

You act as if the dynamic controls aren't usable, they are

[teal cliff]

In an entire mode of play that serves as one of the game's main draws you cannot use them

I don't think you can use them in the story mode either?

[bleak lintel]

Anticipated feels like it should go to Hades. Star Wars is hyped but it is Ubisoft.
FF7R2 is looking good but it is the middle game of a trilogy.

[teal cliff]

so like where are you supposed to use them

I'm voting for Hades 2 but Infinite Wealth is also huge

same with Tekken 8 and Rebirth

[bleak lintel]

FF7R2 being exclusive hurts it too.

[gaunt marten]

Dynamic controls are usable unless you want to play the game in a competitive manner, which kinda sucks because a lot of people buy the game with the idea they may be able to compete

[fresh bane]

Dynamic controls are not meant for competitiveness

[gaunt marten]

Right, they are not, and that's an issue for accessibility.

[bitter stream]

Don't modern controls exist too? They seem decent for accessibility, if not to the same extent as Dynamic?

[teal cliff]

They are not.

To do anything effectively on modern controls you still need to be fully capable of playing the game at a normal level.

They barely remove any complexity in the inputs aside from supers. Combos and specials are the same as ever.

[bitter stream]

hmm interesting

[fresh bane]

I wouldn't say they don't work for accessibility at all

[rose rose]

I also don't think introducing a control scheme that isn't deliberately actively hostile is really all that innovative.

[fresh bane]

For fighting games it is

[bitter stream]

I wonder if FGC games just have to take the L on this one, on account of motion inputs being design implements as well as execution barriers.

[bleak lintel]

It is a big shift for fighters.

[gaunt marten]

It's a start

[fresh bane]

Visually impaired players needed all the sound cues that already exist on fighting games by design when playing competitively before but SF6 added options to help with that with things like sound cues based on proximity to your opponent

[teal cliff]

Nah, fighting games are perfectly capable of being accessible, but their players and developers pride themselves on gatekeeping and inaccessibility.

They do not like it when people can pick up and play games easily so there needs to be a cultural shift within the subcommunity for anything to change.

[fresh bane]

That's not true at all

[bitter stream]

...? That doesn't seem to be true at all, especially given the warm reception games like Power Rangers has, and that IIRC hasn't got complex inputs at all

[fresh bane]

Most of the FGC community is perfectly fine with accessibility options

[teal cliff]

There is literally no reason for complicated motion inputs to be the standard for fighting games, we live in an age where more elegant control options exist but are often disabled for tournament settings.

[bitter stream]

Project L is following in Power Rangers footsteps too, and people are hyped for that game

[teal cliff]

See, Tekken 7's move macros. You can execute specials in that game through traditional motion inputs or by binding them to R1 + another button. The binding option is disabled in tournaments, and it is the only way I can perform special moves.

[bitter stream]

It's designed to be playable even with keyboard in mind.

[fresh bane]

There's definitely a subset of hardcore sweaty players that pride themselves in playing older games with complicated inputs, and they should be, because these games are very hard to master, but painting the whole FGC and even the developers of fighting games as elitist gatekeepers that actively refuse accessibility is just not true at all

[teal cliff]

But that's the case. Even newer fighting games are releasing with less accessible controls than previous entries in their series.

[bitter stream]

Brawlhalla then? that game is one of the biggest on the market, and has controls as simple as smashbros.

Also in that line, the other platformer games, like Rivals of Aether.

[fresh bane]

Even if that's the case one thing doesn't immediately mean the other, just saying that the community and devs pride themselves in gatekeeping and inaccessibility is just wrong and it's purposefuly painting them in a bad light when that's not true

[teal cliff]

Games like Smash Bros are discounted by fighting game players and called "not fighting games" or games for children because of their simpler controls.

[fresh bane]

Plenty of the community is perfectly fine with and want more accessibility so these games can be played by even more people

Saying ''players and developers pride themselves on gatekeeping and inaccessibility.'' is wrong

[teal cliff]

But it is true; the developers have the tools to make their games accessible and choose not to, and then when you bring it up to fighting game players they cheer the developers making that decision.

[gaunt marten]

Brawlhalla is a party/smash bros fighting game, a different genre and style from high control complexity fighters

[bitter stream]

Sure, then back to Power Rangers and Project L

They are high complexity 1v1 2D fighting games

or 2v2 in the case of Project L

[teal cliff]

Just bring up Stylish controls to Guilty Gear players, a huge chunk of them are glad that the simpler control option was straight up removed moving from Revelator 2 to Strive

The FGC is anti-accessibility

always has been.

[bitter stream]

You're tarring a whole community with one brush... that's just not useful to anyone.

[teal cliff]

Because the community made it clear where they stand

[fresh bane]

Now you're just purposefuly making assumptions lol

[bitter stream]

No, There are subsections and groups inside that community that have different opinions and takes on good fighting game design.

[teal cliff]

Just because a community trends towards one direction does not mean every person in that community does; CSGO is a toxic game, not every single CSGO player is toxic but enough of them are to make a statement about the playerbase as a whole. Same thing applies to fighting game players and gatekeeping accessibility options.

That's why absolutely nobody seemed to mind that Modern as an accessible control option is actually pretty inaccessible and dynamic is unusable for most of the game's content.

[bitter stream]

what on earth are you smoking? did you miss the uproar about modern Chun Li in CPT?

[teal cliff]

in addition to the other examples I gave (Tekken's binding options being disabled for tournaments, Guilty Gear removing Stylish mode)

[bitter stream]

It's good enough to compete at the highest level fo the game

[fresh bane]

Yeah this whole thing is turning stupid

[teal cliff]

People hated modern beacuse it offered 1 frame supers, it has NOTHING to do with accessibility.

To compete with modern you have to be fully capable of playing the game on default controls.

It offers absolutely 0 assistance to disabled players because the technical inputs required remain the same.

[bitter stream]

It changes the basic inputs

some of your M and H kicks are straight moves

I can't recall for M H punches

It's got the option for the complex inputs

[fresh bane]

Saying modern controls offer absolutely 0 accesibility is also not true, it may not offer assistance or accessibility for some people but to say that it flat out doesn't offer anything is just completely untrue

[teal cliff]

That still doesn't change that playing SF6, even on modern, requires execution of inputs and combos that most people with motor issues couldn't manage.

[fresh bane]

There's so many people who said they previously couldn't play but modern controls made it so that they could get into the game way easier than anything else before

Are those people just lying?

[bitter stream]

^this

[teal cliff]

Either those people are playing at such a low level that modern's singular auto-combo is enough for them or they're fully able to do complex mechanical inputs anyways

Playing well with modern still requires you to perform complicated mechanical inputs and therefore it is of no help to people who can't do that.

[wintry canopy]

I'll tame it instead.

[bitter stream]

fair enough Obsidian haha, they are very cool lightning horses

[thorny loom]

The compeltionists charity “the open hand foundation” has been found to storing money and not actually donating money https://youtu.be/Rb0dMF1zHyA?si=CDy_TkBZ4Wk0bHeX

[bronze abyss]

dont worry hes just doing it for the life achievement of being cancelled to get the plat 💯

[fresh bane]

Karl Jobst making a video about you could either be the best thing to happen to you or the worst with no inbetween

[thorny loom]

Muta went into more depth with it

[bronze abyss]

if karl makes a video about you and it doesnt have WORLD RECORD or LEGEND in the title/thumbnail ur fucked

gg wp ez

[thorny loom]

Either way. Hes gonna have a fun time with the IRS now that its guaranteed people are gonna send notices to them about it

[fresh bane]

Oof

That's worse than being publicly outed and chased off the internet

Could be looking at jail time maybe

[thorny loom]

Another red flag. He disabled comments on all his videos

[chilly mural]

Yooooooo we cancelling the completion-sit now?

We are so fucking back pony bros

[thorny loom]

I mean. This has been going on for 10 years

Doesnt help he said he found out in 2022 and in 2023 still did a fundraiser for said organization

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/ign/status/1724155445068124419? @mossy flume @graceful bridge

[chilly mural]

We have never been more back

[thorny loom]

(For context for him scroll up)

[wind stump]

❤️

[dense crypt]

Oh shit its veigar

[wind stump]

oh wait
this is a LoL character?
OH GOD N O

(joking aside, fun character)

[fresh bane]

Yes lol

He looks cooler in his splash art....

Wild Rift makes him cuter

[dense crypt]

Its only a short way? Is that a SHORT JOKE!?

[wind stump]

ah, that splash art is his character art in StS
also his basic Attack card

[fresh bane]

He's one of the super old champions that are basically just standing there waiting for Riot to do something with them

[gaunt marten]

Spyro ass villain

[fresh bane]

One of the reasons I stopped playing League and started disliking Riot is how they have all these awesome characters they do absolutely nothing with because ''muh new champions to keep people interested''

Shaco is another old champion who is pretty infamous for basically having no lore at all

[fresh bane]

He's just a yordle, that's what they all look like, don't judge!

rood

[teal cliff]

What is this?

[random steppe]

Heavily modded Slay the Spire

[teal cliff]

I see.

[random steppe]

At least the character is modded but knowing HC there are probably a few dozens mods involved

[green fulcrum]

So apparently Armored Core 6 and Starfield weren't nominated for GOTY.

There's gonna be a lot of people on my ship tomorrow who are gonna be pissed that I was right.

[teal cliff]

Slay the Spire is what i was looking for, I recognized Veigar but not the game.

[teal cliff]

I imagine AC6 was too niche and Starfield was too whatever.

[random steppe]

Yeah I am a huge AC6 fan and I agree with that decision

[teal cliff]

AC6 got the nom for... best action game, was it?

I think that's appropriate

it's the type of game to win a genre category rather than goty.

[random steppe]

Also I don't hate Starfield (even tho the more I think about it the less I like it) and that also doesn't deserve a GOTY nomination

[green fulcrum]

There were soooo many people on my ship who were adamant that BG3 was gonna get destroyed by Starfield in the GOTY poll.

[teal cliff]

Sleepfield 💤

[random steppe]

I like a lot from it, my main problem is that it completely fucks up the fantasy

[teal cliff]

It has the bethesda classic of absolutely 0 impacts of your decisions, to the point where I don't know if I'd classify it as a roleplaying game anymore

Bethesda games of the modern day are more akin to open world shooters.

[random steppe]

I don't even care about that

[teal cliff]

I care greatly, and Bethesda continues to spit in my mouth about it.

[random steppe]

The fantasy, the pitch of the game is "explore the galaxy" every bit of the writing casts you as this intrepid explorer taking risk and going in impossible places to reach.
Yet, everywhere you go has structures built and inhabited by people...

?!?!?!

[fresh bane]

I'm pretty mad Hi Fi Rush wasn't nominated for GOTY either

[random steppe]

Why?

It was the one thing I wanted

Not the Hi-Fi rush thing

That I expected

I love the game but it's too nichè sadly

That said it should have been in the visual design category

And it's a crime it isn't there

[rose rose]

It is in "art direction"

Unless we're back to Starfield again

[random steppe]

Ok that's definitely a fair place to put it

I meant Hi-fi rush

I didn't check the music category actually

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/insidergamingig/status/1724150529779970309?

[rose rose]

Hi-Fi Rush appears in Art Direction, Score and Music, Audio Design, and Action Game

Which seems appropriate

[random steppe]

Oh I think the one I was mad about, was the golden joystick thing then

I would be very curious to see the split of the people that voted the normal categories but skipped all the esport ones

It would be interesting to answer the "of all the people that are commited enough to gaming to vote in TGA, how many actually also follow Esports?" question

[rose rose]

I skip all the eSports!

I don't know why the voting is even there. This isn't a popular vote award.

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/ff_xiv_en/status/1724185370152092066?

[rose rose]

Marketing, I guess

[river veldt]

lol what

[green fulcrum]

Ikr?

It's bonkers

[fickle garnet]

I keep seeing xbox fanboys being super pissed that Starfield wasn't even nominated for GOTY

Imo its not GOTY material. Its good but not GOTY good

[river veldt]

idk anything about Starfield

does it have aliens

it's in space so i assume so

[slim thorn]

from what I've heard "it's a bethesda rpg... IN SPAAAAAACE" mostly covers it

[river veldt]

what's the craziest alien

[fickle garnet]

Also i saw someone say that Spider-man 2 is a buggy mess

I ran into like one bad bug on my playthrough

I definitely think BG3 will win

[mossy flume]

Pffft, yeah that's not gonna happen.

Starfield has no chance

Starfield was arguably one of the weakest RPGs of the year

[fickle garnet]

I saw someone on twitter say that Starfield should have been nominated for best art direction

Hi-Fi rush better win best art direction

[mossy flume]

Yep

[wind stump]

I mean... I think the count is 137 at this point.

[slim thorn]

I enjoyed Hi-Fi Rush so much more than I expected to

and I will probably never have the energy for a second playthrough

[mossy flume]

I was disappointed by Starfield because it was basically a late 2000s RPG with modern graphics

[visual hill]

I remember when Starfield was hyped a lot

[green fulcrum]

All I'm saying is that my coworkers all thought that Starfield was ten times better than BG3, and that BG3 was "boring".

[slim thorn]

so... what's changed in RPG-land since the late 2000s

[mossy flume]

BG3 can be quite boring if that sort of thing isn't for you

[rose rose]

(I think BG3 is boring)

[green fulcrum]

Methinks they didn't like the turn-based combat

[slim thorn]

other than Larian Studios getting all the hype apparently

[dense crypt]

I like turn based combat but not when its done like XCOM where one missed attack can mean the death of the entire team

[random steppe]

I think that if you mean proper RPGs not that much happened fro a while

Disco Elysium, and Persona, and probably some nintendo stuff

[dense crypt]

Final Fantasy is more of what i like, though ironically i dont play them as much as i should...

[random steppe]

As in, stuff only on Nintendo console so I wouldn't know about it

[slim thorn]

...huh, and I've played or watched 2/3

[random steppe]

Most of the RPG crowd I feel were gobbled up by Souls gamers.

[slim thorn]

oh interesting

[random steppe]

Which is a RPG in the sense of it has some RPG mechanics

But not really

[slim thorn]

I mean DS1 is certainly an RPG the way I'm used to that term being thrown around

[fickle garnet]

FFXIV probably gonna win this again. Tbh it deserves it

[astral steeple]

hopefully not

[random steppe]

The subgenere of RPGs that were the largest in the past few years was definitely souls

Which culminated in Elden Ring

[thorny loom]

Oh god genshin again

[slim thorn]

I guess those are separate in my mind since every Souls-adjacent game I've actually enjoyed was mostly not an "RPG"

[thorny loom]

Look i like the anime women but the gatcha aspect isnt great

Furina is especially adorable

[fickle garnet]

The combat and constant grinding also suck

[random steppe]

They totally are different genres but they are lumped up together because of some similar mechanics

And to be fair, souls games have quests, they just aren't explicitly marked on a hud

[slim thorn]

I mean, that's what a genre is lol

RPGs and Soulslikes have always struggled to get a clear definition

[random steppe]

Yeah but like, BG3 and DS are both in the same category and yet they have a less in common than for example, Dark Soul and Devil May Cry

Sometimes it's a bit silly

(to be clear, DS and DMC don't have much in common, but it's more than BG3 has with DS)

[slim thorn]

Ixrec — 08/14/2021 1:17 PM
Dark Souls was the first game ever to have a parry button

[visual hill]

speaking of DMC, I learned about a DMC meme last week because of a random tweet I made

I posted a image of a plastic chair to showcase an example of runtime model loading in Godot and everyone replied with the meme with Dante sitting in a plastic chair

[random steppe]

lol

[visual hill]

it's not even the same chair though, the model I used has fewer "holes" in the back

[random steppe]

I do own that chair

[fresh bane]

Erm, that's Vergil, not Dante ☝️

[grave tide]

Based

[visual hill]

ah right, I'm not familiar with DMC

[thorny loom]

Come on now

Wheres your motivation

[thorny loom]

Nire

They found a glitch in mw3 to turn it into a tf2 match 😂 https://fxtwitter.com/jaffainc/status/1724089683666219262?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[fresh bane]

How could you ever confuse them? They look so different! /s

[random steppe]

Vergil ability to style his hair perfectly with one hand in half a second is the least belivable thing anyone does in all the games

[fresh bane]

He uses his devil powers to tuck his hair back

[rancid herald]

are the game awards tonight?

[river veldt]

no

they're on December 2017

sorry

December 7th

why did i type 2017 what on earth

[rancid herald]

I'm already halfway into my tardis

[minor plover]

you were thinking of how many cookies you've given out so far

[quiet swift]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2416450/Mouse/ cease and desist speedrun any%?

Steam

Mouse

Step into a world of cartoon animation and retro action-packed adventure in Mouse. Inspired by the best of 30s rubber hose animation and the classic noir style, this retro shooter is a story-driven experience that will take you on a thrilling journey through a dangerous and corrupt city.Armed with a variety of mid-century firearms and explosives...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[river veldt]

this game looks fucking awesome

[quiet swift]

It does but I can't imagine DIsney being okay with it

[green fulcrum]

But it's just an art style. They cannot copyright an art style, otherwise Cuphead would've never seen the light of day.

Or Bendy and the Ink Machine

[fresh bane]

That actually looks legitimately super creative

[dire gate]

But it's The Mouse™️

[hushed onyx]

On January 1, 2024, the copyrights of the first three animated Mickey Mouse cartoons will expire, and they will enter the public domain. They are the silent cartoons Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho, and the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie.[a] Newer versions of Mickey Mouse will remain copyright protected.

Given that the style here is definitely more similar to those cartoons than "newer versions" of Mickey, Disney really will not have a leg to stand on.

[dire gate]

While it is just about time for it to become the public domain, I sincerely hope that someone don't try that pooh slasher movie shit with it

That was genuinely so horrible

[gaunt marten]

I remember a teacher was fired once because he put on a Winnie the Pooh film for children and left before checking if it's appropriate

It was Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey, and the students got to watch for half an hour before he found out

[river veldt]

i would fire him for putting on a shitty movie

[gaunt marten]

It's a school

They're not showing anything remotely exciting at a school

[river veldt]

that's not true

one time we watched Jurassic Park in biology

[green fulcrum]

It's literally called...BLOOD and Honey. Did that not tip him off? Was it not obvious enough? Was he blind?

[hushed onyx]

Much too late for that.

[gaunt marten]

Where I live if there's anything in any way one parent questions, that movie is not allowed (not that we got to watch more than one or two in total)

[green fulcrum]

It's already becoming a thing, iirc.

[gaunt marten]

My guess is he just downloaded the first Winnie the Pooh film he found and didn't bother reading the filename

[green fulcrum]

You can always tell the landlubbers from the true pirates...

[hushed onyx]

Mickey is such an icon of America that it started happening long, long ago, though mostly in countries that don't care about Disney's copyrights or trademarks. I would be more surprised if there weren't slasher movie shit-type things in, say, Iran or North Korea than if there were (Mickey would be the villain, of course).

Also you know Disney itself did a cartoon as early as 1929 where Mickey became a soldier and machine-gunned invading cats, soooooo...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Barnyard_Battle

[gaunt marten]

That short was fucked up

[thorny loom]

Dont forget mickey mouse goes to vietnam where he gets drafted and dies

[rotund forge]

to goofy

[wintry canopy]

I've heard that there's going to be inde Nintendo direct soon, it'd be sick if pizza tower gets ported to the switch.

[mossy flume]

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/11/13/nintendo-indie-world-showcase-set-for-tomorrow-with-20-minutes-of-announcements-and

Yep

Tomorrow

Replaying Pokémon BDSP right now and it just…. looks so much better than Scarlet/Violet it’s not even funny

And no stuttering

[chilly mural]

but, Zapdos doesn't have toxic....

it's over

[river veldt]

omg im also replaying BD lol

[mossy flume]

IMO the world design here is still much more interesting than the more recent games

[river veldt]

it's shocking going from Galar or whatever ScVi's region is called to Sinnoh or even Kanto

[mossy flume]

Kanto, Hoenn, Johto, Sinnoh are all so much better designed

G5 too

Then it started to fall apart after that

I would argue that music design has also lost its luster as well for thematic consistency and depth

[hasty patio]

I read that as "Blood Diamond and Soul Pearl" and was immediately concerned.

[rotund forge]

It's become a semi-rule I live by that I will never play a Pokemon game. Never have and probably never will. Heck, I've never even seen a full playthrough of any game ever on youtube...

[dense crypt]

HELL POKEMON

[dire gate]

Huh

I feel like that's an unpopular opinion

[dense crypt]

hmm, hmm... yes, unpopular, DISCARDED

[wintry canopy]

Most of the music in scarlet and violet is meh, but ogerpon's fight theme and every theme from area zero are sick.

[mossy flume]

It’s kinda not hard to beat S/V though. BDSP has a better rendering resolution, higher resolution textures, better defined areas, no performance issues… it’s no contest.

S/V are just generally really sad to the point where I’m convinced that they are years from being finished

Also no model and texture pop-in

Also things like shadows

Having also checked the release history it’s clear that Game Freak, Nintendo, and the Pokémon Company need to reevaluate their 3 year release schedule for mainline Pokémon games because it is clearly not enough.

[flint iron]

Its harder to memorize the layout of the new gen regions, like Unova will change the layout of the region depending on the season of the year, unlocking new paths and sealing other paths for each season and changing the pokemon found

[mossy flume]

BDSP just makes me even angrier at S/V

And it was done by a third party studio

[river veldt]

Gen5 was so goddamn cool

[flint iron]

Yeh

[mossy flume]

Yeah

The new regions are just uninspired

And much more linear with like… no branching paths at all

All the Pokémon world designs have been loosely linear, but it’s even moreso in recent titles

[river veldt]

Gen5 also has my favourite legendary Pokémon, Kyurem

[mossy flume]

Sword & Shield is just… go north.

[flint iron]

Pokemon is one the highest grossing companies so it cannot be budget as the reason, they also don't give their developers time to flesh out a game like legends arceus and scarlet and violet didn't even have a year gap with releases

[flint iron]

We still never got to see Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyruems combined form

[mossy flume]

Game Freak is understaffed and they refuse external help.

[flint iron]

Yep

[river veldt]

i will be forever upset about this

like maybe the mystery is better, but idk

[flint iron]

A Pokemon Legends Kyruem will be the only way

[river veldt]

yes please

[mossy flume]

The Legends idea is great. Too bad they aggressively floundered at their first swing at it, I suspect no sequels will happen

[rancid herald]

wasn't the combined form in BW2?

[flint iron]

Both forms were 2/3 of the full form, they never had all 3 combined yet

[river veldt]

yeah

[rancid herald]

Does that even exist?

[river veldt]

cause Zekrom, Reshiram, and Kyurem are each 1/3 of a big Pokémon

in lore yeah

[mossy flume]

It was supposed to but they cancelled that plan

They basically had to reshuffle their plans

[flint iron]

The elusive Pokemon Grey

[rancid herald]

Pokemon Grey is hanging out with Pokemon Z

[mossy flume]

Grey and Z were planned but both cancelled and they’ve since decided to never do a third version again

[rancid herald]

that's fair

the third version wasn't really a good idea anyway

[mossy flume]

DLC is the new plan

[river veldt]

Game Freak should make Pokémon Grey for the Switch and it's all pixel art again

[mossy flume]

I thought it was a great idea because it let them go back and refine the whole game as opposed to just tacking on some extra content at the end

[rancid herald]

Pokemon Grey and Pokemon Z: Grey is all pixel, Z is all vectors

[rancid herald]

the third version, you mean?

[mossy flume]

Platinum was a phenomenal iteration

Yeah

[rancid herald]

Maybe

I always saw them more as like... experimental versions of the game

[mossy flume]

But these days they just literally do not have the time

I always viewed them as definitive editions

[river veldt]

they never did a

uh

idk LungsCrystal

[rancid herald]

Like a place where they tested out ideas, like how Pokemon Crystal had gender for the main character before it was introduced fully in Ruby/Sapphire

[river veldt]

idk what would HGSS Crystal be called

[flint iron]

Lungs Crystal sounds pretty epic for that

[rancid herald]

RS is really where they seemed to solidify the idea of two normal games plus a third game, because Gen 1 and 2's third games were kind of weird. Yellow version was, inexplicitably, an anime adaptation and crystal had something going on with one of the legendary doggos

[river veldt]

i love Pokémon Yellow and the remake too

[rancid herald]

Anyway, circling back to Legends, I sort of suspect we'll see more legends games in the future

I really don't think Gamefreak wants to keep making remakes of their old games, which is why you ended up with the weird BDSP/Legends thing

[icy crescent]

[flint iron]

I was about to say remake pokemon coliseum and xd gales of darkness but one of the main attractions to that game was that it was a 3d pokemon game years ago, they did have the action replay ability to snag other trainers pokemon tho

[mossy flume]

HG/SS was the best remake they ever did

It’s sad that they’re trapped in DS land

[flint iron]

Yeh the ost, amount of post game to do, 16 gym leaders, walking with your pokemon, pokewalker, pokeathlon and trainer/pokemon sprites were really good

[mossy flume]

They’ll probably re-remake it someday, but probably not anytime soon

[river veldt]

i still think Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee are underrated

[mossy flume]

I agree that they’re likely to take the trajectory of making new titles for a while