general gaming

[fresh bane]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-applebloom-gif-9818731

''ruuuuuunnnnnnnnnn''

[hasty patio]

Better get on that Fortnite Battlepass. They need the money. /s

[fresh bane]

“For a while now, we've been spending way more money than we earn, investing in the next evolution of Epic and growing Fortnite as a metaverse-inspired ecosystem for creators,” Sweeney wrote in the letter.

uuggghhhhhhh

[random steppe]

At least what they mean with meta verse is just a gaming world with a lot of crossover

Rather than NFT hellscape

[dire gate]

"We tried to make Fortnite another Roblox but it isn't going well"

[random steppe]

I mean Fortnite is making a lot of money so that probably went pretty well, it's a lot of other places that aren't

[dire gate]

I think it was said in the recent layoff news that "the creator program isn't making the expected amount of money"

[arctic fern]

we proved that free-to-play without pay-to-win can work at scale
you know what? i never considered this, he's absolutely right here

i still hate fortnite but thats an excellent point

[dire gate]

• Fortnite Creator profit margins not as big as Fortnite was

[random steppe]

It's kind of baked into the game mode so not giving them huge props but they did manage to not fuck with it

[dire gate]

I'm not saying Fortnite is doing bad, but their effort to make it another Roblox doesn't seem to be going very well

[random steppe]

Warzone fucked with it

I am not sure that's the objective, I would have to look more closely into the creator program and how much it takes from Roblox

Rather than, let's say, Blizzard games custom maps

[dire gate]

Well I was just using Roblox for a general term, so I don't think they are specifically benchmarking Roblox

Anyhow it seems their effort to make Fortnite more than what it was seems to be not going very well and affecting their business

Probably not like "oh no Epic is going to die" level but about "well shit that's not really great is it" level

[random steppe]

To be nitpicky, they aren't saying they are losing money on the creator program, just that they hoped they'd make more from it than they are.

[dire gate]

I guess so, hard to tell what is really going on inside Epic

[dire gate]

Please elaborate when uploading a screenshot

[astral steeple]

https://twitter.com/ShiinaBR/status/1709193018937360766

Shiina (@ShiinaBR)

NEW: Fortnite will soon add IARC age ratings to the game!

Starting October 16, creators are required to fill out a questionnaire to make sure their maps get a proper age rating.

If map creators do not fill out this questionnaire, their maps WILL be delisted on November 14.

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Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 1:05 PM

[graceful bridge]

Like the finest hunting dog, this Chesapeake Smart SMG will dispose of your enemies with precision. Equipped with an Iconic mod, it grants increased movement speed on kills and dismemberments as well as greater armor penetration. The faster you move, the more damage it deals - and all bonuses remain active as long as you’re swapping between Barghest weapons.

Also, the next part of the NUS Infiltrator drop is live, boots this time

[slim thorn]

Tetris effects are weird

something outside managed to make a noise just similar enough to the warning squeak of Hollow Knight's divebombing enemies that I had the sudden urge to evade

[visual hill]

ah yes, the Cheapskate SMG

[arctic fern]

theres literally a disposable machine pistol you can buy from a vending machine

[river veldt]

i remember in 2017 i was obsessed with BotW, and every time i saw an incline plane i would be like "oh i can paraglide down that"

[peak berry]

oh

[river veldt]

im still really bummed that the Arkham Trilogy for Switch was delayed 😔

[gaunt marten]

It's fine

It's not like it'll be worse when released later

[river veldt]

yeah i guess

i was just really looking forward to it

[gaunt marten]

It can be frustrating when that happens

That's why I always advocate against getting excited for games that are not already here

[river veldt]

at least the Mario RPG remake won't get delayed

hope i didn't just jinx it

[gaunt marten]

Any game can be delayed or turn out bad. The world is complex and unpredictable. Trust only in what you have for as long as you have it

[dire gate]

SMRPG has reached the point where the release date is too close to get delayed in a normal circumstance

[river veldt]

Super Mario Bros Wonder is soon

yippeee !

only a little over 2 weeks away

and then i can play that

[dire gate]

Wonder is definitely not going to be delayed

[random steppe]

Trust none, not even yourself

[harsh kestrel]

Apparently Sony fired the Naughty Dog devs

[dire gate]

Are they doing anything rn?

[harsh kestrel]

Ever since Jim Ryan stepped down, well, that's the first thing I've heard of them doing that's major

[river veldt]

is the Pac Man Museum+ game worth the money

[harsh kestrel]

https://youtu.be/NoV4O2V1RGs?si=ysO4Tx4og4DQLRiK

[thorny loom]

Last of us had multiplayer?

[harsh kestrel]

Apparently. I guess even with Jim Ryan gone, I guess Sony is still gonna make dumb decisions

[thorny loom]

Its not that surprising I guess. The pc port of 1 was awful

Idk if they’ll even do the second

[harsh kestrel]

These companies don't care. They'll never care. As long as they keep their money, they earn more money, that's all they care about. I'm hoping I hear about an appealing indie game rising to stardom again. Like things such as FNAF, Among Us, and Splitgate for example have done throughout the last decade

[fresh bane]

So is Phantom Liberty like an add-on/expansion to the base Cyberpunk or is it like a 'new' game?

Not quite clear on that

Still haven't gotten into Cyberpunk proper even though I hear that the actual game is actually really really good because I still don't know in what state the game is in

[rose rose]

It is an expansion.

[thorny loom]

Its an expansion. The 2.0 update also added a lot of features and updates to the base game too

[rose rose]

It slots in alongside the other major storylines

[fresh bane]

Is the game on an okay state or are some of the mods still ''necessary''? Because I remember that there were a bunch of mods people downloaded to pretty much fully realize the game asides from just making it work properly

With missing additional features and what not, that sort of thing

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/goblinzpub/status/1704796862190899465?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Goblinz Publishing (@GoblinzPub)

Very happy to announce our new game Fantastic Haven. Imagine Zoo Tycoon, but with magical creatures and diplomacy 🐲🧙

Steam page 👇
https://t.co/DiIsp69Onr

Likes

2102

Retweets

168

Twitter · Sep 21, 2023, 9:57 AM

[arctic fern]

i heard abuot this, looks fun

[random steppe]

The game is in an excellent state

Playing it without mod so far, and I mean, it's not perfect, but it's like one of the best games in the genre.

They revamped loot to not suck ass
They revamped crafting to not suck ass
And they revamped perks to not suck ass
Oh and also they did revamp cyberware to be cooler than it was (it was cool before, now it's cooler)

Of course the structure of the game did not change, and while the writing was stronger before, it's still largely a linear story with not that many decisions that affect the path you take

[arctic fern]

i have some problems with its current state but i have been enjoying cyberpunk while i've been playing it

[random steppe]

Also driving isn't terrible

Some of the high end cars still feel a bit floaty but generally better on the whole line

[fresh bane]

[arctic fern]

oh i dont drive often
but then i only recently found out about the 3rd person driving camera and that made the experience 100 times better

[fresh bane]

I guess if I ever find Cyberpunk on sale I'll pick it up

[arctic fern]

thats fair lol

[random steppe]

It's not the game that was promised, night city doesn't have many activities you can engage in purely for immersive purpose, like you can't go into a bowling alley, go play a BD just for fun, or go and have a game of pool, it's not this hyper immersive sim, it's largely a good RPG Action game with an open world that tells some stories in it and a few side activities.
You have some races, you can steal some cars, you have some fighting ring you get to beat the shit out of other dudes.

[arctic fern]

i think i have a DRM free version of the game, from gog

[random steppe]

As for Phantom Liberty, it does a bit more to adress some of the original game criticism

The side gigs have more outcomes

And the main story from what I understood have more consequential choices

[river veldt]

what is BD

[random steppe]

Also it's a cool spy thriller which is neat

Braindance, basically VR

[river veldt]

(i dont know anything about Cyberpunk)

oh cool

[fresh bane]

I guess whenever I do pick it up I'll still check out any of the mods people usually use, I imagine people probably use mods to add all that sort of thing to make the game feel a bit more immersive and less bare bones (bare bones compared to what was advertised originally anyways)

[river veldt]

i remember watching someone play it once and the cars looked weird and floaty but that's all i really know

and also Keanu Reeves is there

[random steppe]

In cyberpunk if you have a BD implant you can record a BD, which not only records the visual but your thoughts, feelings, and sensations you experience, since it jacks up right to your brain.

And then someone else can slot this recording and experience what you experienced

[fresh bane]

I'm not super hung up on ''your choices don't really matter that much'' because any game that works like that I assume they don't matter anyways

I think the last game I played where I had choices to make and I felt like they REALLY mattered was Katana Zero

That game is awesome

[random steppe]

Yeah my main problem with the game not having that, it's that it was marketed as having those things

Which is bad

I think the game in its current state is legit one an incredible game

[river veldt]

can you go to slick futuristic arcades

[random steppe]

Gameplay wise is easly the best game CDPR has done

[arctic fern]

braindances are full immersion recordings. you experience a recording of what the person was doing at the time, and their emotions. the first BD you see in the game, the person you're experiencing ||gets shot and dies|| (its not really a spoiler but the experience is unique and i dont want to ruin it if you havent experienced it)

[dire gate]

Bluray Disks

[random steppe]

Funnily enough there are a few arcades but you only play old style arcade games

[river veldt]

that sounds awesome !

[arctic fern]

yeah its its current state its closer to a cyberpunk RPG GTA game

[random steppe]

And there are only a couple

GTA has a lot more immersive side stuff to do.

[river veldt]

yeah you can play tennis and stuff

[arctic fern]

true.... but none of it really means anything

[random steppe]

On that respect it's still really more of a deus EX with a relatively shallow open world on top, but it's still very very cool.
Night city might be shallow mechanic wise, but it's incredibly cool for art direction and atmospthere

Also occasionally a radio plays "I Really Want to Stay At Your House" and you have to leave the premise or shoot the radio

Or cry I guess

Or maybe all 3

[fresh bane]

I love how different it is compared to Edgerunners where the very first scene(s) you see or at least during the first episodes are a bunch of people in and a pov of 'adult' BDs

[fresh bane]

If that ever happens to me I'm jumping out the car

[random steppe]

The game is so fucking bleak, with all the bugs ruining my immersion the first time I played it, it didn't really sink in

[arctic fern]

i did stream cyberpunk when it came out in manechat
did not realise char creation was going to start you completely naked
as in, completely naked

[river veldt]

does it have a happy ending at least

[fresh bane]

There are no happy endings on Night City

[random steppe]

I didn't finish it yet

[river veldt]

oh !

[random steppe]

But I kinda doubt it

[fresh bane]

It's a cyberpunk world everything sucks

[random steppe]

I know it has multiple endings so maybe some are better than others

[river veldt]

at least there is the shrimp lady

are these shrimp fresh

https://x.com/supermarioooc85/status/1709222069504815546?s=46

No Context Super Mario 🎃 (@SuperMarioOOC85)

I still can’t get over how Mario looks like in this. Just a small creature

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 3:01 PM

[fresh bane]

years of regular sized mario has made people forget that he's just a little feller

[river veldt]

his model in RPG reminds me of his Mario 64 model

or the Mario World sprite yeah lol

[slim thorn]

apparently in Galaxy they made Mario even shorter / rounder than usual because being almost a sphere allowed the physics to be simpler and more intuitive

[dire gate]

So

[river veldt]

he is pretty round in Galaxy now that i think about

[dire gate]

Is his profile height based on super form or small mario

[river veldt]

well according to the movie small Mario is the default

[dire gate]

So he'd be pretty tall when he's Super Mario

[river veldt]

yes

[fresh bane]

https://twitter.com/katana_zero/status/1641135423798779904

Katana ZERO (@katana_zero)

The Katana ZERO DLC is still on the way, but there are other stories to be told...
Sharpen your blades, Katana Heroes. The spirits are gathering...

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10806

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2036

Twitter · Mar 29, 2023, 5:49 PM

also I just checked really quick now that I remembered this game

Seems like the DLC is still being worked on

but that's okay cuz it's free

This game is seriously so awesome I'm tempted to replay it for the fun of it

[river veldt]

i bought Pac-Man World Repac

and also PacMan Museum+

[visual hill]

Deus Ex allows you to play basketball or pool in comparison

Sign him up for the Knucks!!

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-says-its-looking-into-it-after-pigeon-dating-sim-maker-says-shes-not-received-royalties-in-2-years/

[slim thorn]

lol

[wind stump]

Look at that, Epic being shady!

What a surprise...

I'm sure they just got caught up in the shuffle after acquiring Mediatonic, but two years

[mossy flume]

Ah, they bought it. Yeah things like that can fall apart during acquisitions, especially when they’re small like that. Actively bringing it up with them to get it fixed is the way to go.

[gaunt marten]

There's been a remastered version for Hatoful Boyfriend, I think

[mossy flume]

Rumors spreading around Metroid fandom that Metroid Prime 4 marketing is being developed at Nintendo and Retro now.

[wind stump]

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." as they say

and this is very much a case of stupidity, i think

[mossy flume]

Yeah, I’d bet it’s a simple oversight that they’d be happy to correct.

[wind stump]

For once I'm willing to be reasonable in my unending hatred, lol

[random steppe]

Just to remind people, nothing that Epic ever did is nearly as sketchy as Valve CSGO enabling and benefitting from black market kids skin gambling.

It does plenty of sketch in Fortnite, but to my knowledge nothing even close to that

Can you imagine if Fortnite skins were in lootboxes, you had to spend money to open them, and then could gamble the skins on 3rd party sites?

[wind stump]

Yeah, that was pretty bad but I don't think they were that aware of it until it blew up

[random steppe]

I don't buy it for a microsecond

And even if they werent, it's still a thing that you can do

It's not like they made it impossible

Do they even ban people for doing it?

[wind stump]

Yeah, they really screwed up with that

[rotund forge]

The day we get MLP skins in Fortnite is the day I die unhappily.

lol

[thorny loom]

We got a transformer like skin i doubt wed get mlp though

[rotund forge]

I know that but it's funny. Would they be EQG girls with Pony backblings or anthropomorfic ponies shudder

[thorny loom]

More layoffs

https://www.pcgamer.com/naughty-dog-reportedly-lays-off-contract-workers-as-troubled-the-last-of-us-spinoff-shooter-faces-an-uncertain-future/

[heady bridge]

This is not the first QA employees being let go, makes me worry that they are either farming this out to cheap labour in other countries or going to try and use AI...

[thorny loom]

Wouldnt be first time. Tlou2 had a notoriously bad crunch development

https://youtu.be/qElvTW-8-W8?si=odawb23flAcsJwxZ

I believe its crab, seagull, and jellyfish this year based on leaks

[wind stump]

Crab crab crab

[heady bridge]

Unless it’s a giant enemy one that I have to hit its weak spot to deal massive damage I’m not interested.

[rugged flax]

eugh, seagulls. rats with wings.
i've had a beef with seagulls ever since one stole a taco from me.

[wind stump]

NO SEAGULLS
PLS NO SEAGULLS
UMINEKO WAS BAD ENOUGH

[quiet swift]

(Mine? Mine?)

[astral steeple]

i dont think they'd do mlp characters as skins unless they were anthro/equestria girls

at most maybe have the mane six as pet backblings on like a chair or something

the hasbro deal overall goes for like the next 5 years though

So anything could happen

maybe for a g4 anniversary event or something?

[wind stump]

I've been playing Umineko: When They Cry and the title is in reference to an animal known as Umineko (black tailed seagull)

VERY FUN if traumatising game

[astral steeple]

all theyve done so far with hasbro characters is snake eyes and transformers

[fickle garnet]

They should do a cell shaded g1 Optimus Prime and Megatron

[astral steeple]

surprised they didnt do Arcee yet at all

[quiet swift]

https://gaming.amazon.com/gp/amzn1.pg.game.3986d52c-da26-4e31-adcb-7bd7cfa39df5 gun if you have prime

for phantom liberty

[harsh kestrel]

If only they could do our pones as characters. Now that I would buy into lol

[astral steeple]

overall pet backblings would probably work better

cause then you could just use them with other skins you own

would make for some funny images too

like goku with applejack on his back, darth vader with rainbow dash on his back, etc

[little badger]

@sage raptor https://twitter.com/gearsofwar/status/1709327531361349809?

Gears of War (@GearsofWar)

Pre-orders are open for the exclusive 1/12 scale Dominic Santiago and Queen Myrrah.

Dom: https://t.co/YwYaSyYjmc
Myrrah: https://t.co/NBxl7ecJhb

Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 10:00 PM

[thorny loom]

Can we just get gears 2,3 and judgement collection remastered

[sage raptor]

Myrrah looks so good!

[sage raptor]

[fickle garnet]

Im downloading Warhammer 40k: Darktide on my xbox

[hasty patio]

Have fun with it.

[fickle garnet]

I've wanted to play it for a while but i don't have a pc yet and it's now on game pass so I'll finally get to play it

[hasty patio]

I'm not sure where they are on the update line, but PC did get the class rework today, so if that hasn't happened yet, give it time.

[fickle garnet]

Well the game just came out on xbox today so id assume they would have that

[visual hill]

want to try The Talos Principle 2's demo (the full game comes out November 3)? Enter this in your browser's address bar: steam://install/2312690

[fickle garnet]

That's a great way to make something sound like a scam

[visual hill]

it is 100% legit (and nothing bad can happen if you try to enter that URL in a browser anyway – at worst, you don't have the steam:// protocol associated and nothing will happen)

the demo isn't listed on Steam, so you have to do it this way

proof

[gaunt marten]

Yeah it is legit

You can find packages like these on SteamDB

[visual hill]

I've installed it and might give my impressions this weekend

[fickle garnet]

Yeah i know it just sort of sounded like the typical "want this for free? Just click this link" scam

[visual hill]

it is an UE5 title too, so it is fairly demanding. You do have settings to tailor it better to lower spec PCs but don't expect to run it well on 10 year old hardware like the original

it has Lumen if you max out GI and reflection quality 🙂

[rotund forge]

See yall in 2036 for UE7

[visual hill]

why wait for UE7 when you can wait for Godot

[rotund forge]

??What

[gaunt marten]

"Waiting for Godot" is a famous play

And Godot is the name of a game development engine that competes with UE and Unity

[rotund forge]

oh

[mossy flume]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot

Huh, haven’t heard of it before

[rotund forge]

I'm just a college student I don't know things about stuff

[gaunt marten]

Funny thing is Godot never shows up

[mossy flume]

Rude of him

[gaunt marten]

It's a very unique play and worth at least reading about

[dire gate]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1709418623566020975

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

As of early April 2024, online play and other functionality that uses online communication will end service for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U software. Thank you very much for your continued support of our products.

Find out more: https://t.co/nOyzBImHCE

Twitter · Oct 4, 2023, 4:02 AM

Pokemon Bank service is officially confirmed to be unaffected from this

[mossy flume]

Well that's good

[river veldt]

oh i thought it was already over lol

[rotund forge]

No more Splatoon 1 😦 I won't see funni clips anymore

[dire gate]

Don't forget that this is manechat

[river veldt]

this Pac Mania art is very funny

"crazyman !"

[dire gate]

Apparently Nintendo is going to work with Switch until 2025. Opinions vary about how to interpret this, but it is likely that they will overlap the lifespan of Switch and its successor.

[mossy flume]

Mhmm, Nintendo always overlaps the lifespans of their consoles.

[arctic fern]

*Almost always

[bleak lintel]

It is common, for about a year or two there were only 5 PS5 games due to overlap.

[slim thorn]

I love the way all the Spanish VAs for Blasphemous say EL MILAGRO

maybe this is some weird bias from not knowing the language as well, but it feels like a lot of their line readings are more dramatic while the English ones are more somber

[wind stump]

"I like fish and stuff."
10/10

[dire gate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa_Churaumi_Aquarium

[wind stump]

brb dying

[dire gate]

lol OG Ryukishi style

ngl that artstyle does give me a bit of nostalgia

[wind stump]

MARISAAAAAAAAA

[quiet swift]

https://www.pcgamer.com/3-of-the-5-top-wishlisted-steam-games-are-city-builders-and-i-want-to-play-them-all/

[gaunt marten]

The top 2 are Hades 2 and Silksong, Then Cities Skylines 2, Frostpunk 2 and Ark 2

Every single game in the list is a 2

[dire gate]

"Silksong"

[gaunt marten]

Oh wait Manor Lords is there in spot 3

[little badger]

Yup

https://twitter.com/ign/status/1709512709203435591?

IGN (@IGN)

Nintendo is shutting down online servers for 3DS and Wii U games in early April 2024, with the exception of Pokémon Bank. https://t.co/0Y2TSwy3qN

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2023, 10:16 AM

[visual hill]

LinusTechTips on the left on that image

[harsh kestrel]

That's gonna be so weird calling the 3DS and Wii U completely retro by next year

[arctic fern]

Yep

We're ancient now

[thorny loom]

Makes sense. Wii u technically was supported at the switches launch

https://www.pcgamer.com/payday-3-dev-says-its-making-a-bunch-of-changes-to-the-games-detested-progression-system-9-days-after-saying-it-had-no-plans-to-do-so/ lmao

[arctic fern]

The game clearly wasn't finished

[thorny loom]

On top of being online only being one of the dumbest decisions for it

Ill only play it whenever an offline or singleplayer mode gets added

[arctic fern]

I just want the old p2p matchmaking they had vefore

[teal cliff]

I want an offline mode so I can mod the game again

dont think its possible with pd3 as is

[arctic fern]

You can play mp modded payday 2 tho?

[harsh kestrel]

Well of course it wasn't finished and was broken. What else is there to expect from a AAA game developer with the mindset that they know they can release their product broken because they know they can update later and try to do damage control in 2023?

[quiet swift]

It seems they were also very close to bankruptcy until someone swooped into push them over the line, so that's probably changed some decisions and plans and schedules

[thorny loom]

Yeah they were basically bailed out

[teal cliff]

Yeah thats because its like peer to peer I think

Isn't PD3 server-side mostly?

you can't mod a server sided game

[arctic fern]

Yeah

You would think a company who made two amazing games would know how to make a third

Oh well, payday 2 is still a lot of fun

[thorny loom]

Mega i played warzones ground war mode yesterday

[arctic fern]

Those are words

[thorny loom]

Is it sad a call of duty game has a better battlefield mode than 2042

In that it actually works

[arctic fern]

I don't care about any of those games

[thorny loom]

Fair enough

[harsh kestrel]

I'm sorry, but if you're one of those companies that honest to God doesn't care about their fans and just want the money and put BS purchases garnered towards kids and new players into your game and not put any effort into improving or fixing it, then I'm sorry, but you don't deserve a spot in the industry. Greed is part of what's wrong with AAA games now

[dire gate]

Uhh

[teal cliff]

Battlefield 2042 has full bot matches though >:3

[dire gate]

ok

[thorny loom]

AC mirage reviews have dropped

Appears to be mostly positive so far

[heady bridge]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/surprise-red-dead-redemption-update-adds-60fps-option-on-ps5/

[dire gate]

I can't believe they are already releasing the sequel to the hit series Armored Core

[thorny loom]

A pc port would have been nicer but oh well

[teal cliff]

Honestly thats the worst part about that generation of consoles

[fickle garnet]

It'd also be nice if it was cheaper since its just a re release

[teal cliff]

the ps3/360 era felt like the peak of developers shafting PC, but its not old enough that emulation is super reliable yet.

I still can't play most of my favourite ps3 era games on emulators :(

and its kinda funny watching the update logs talk about how games that have working PC ports like GTAV are receiving so much support to work on the emulator but games that don't are getting ignored comparatively lol

Who would emulate the ps3 port of GTAV? For what reason? Just play it on your PC its a better version of the game!

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

ah, time travel achievement validation

[wind stump]

resi 5 is fun btw

[dire gate]

The real paradox here is that 0.3% of players somehow completed 3-3

Without completing 3-2

[sour hill]

Well, their last game was a complete failure (the walking dead,) and even payday 2 had several major issues at launch that didn't get fixed for years. I'm honestly pleasantly surprised that most of the major issues in pd3 are glaringly obvious technical ones, and not subtle gameplay ones that will never get addressed

[wind stump]

especially on mouse + keyboard

the trash controls are part of the fun

[gaunt marten]

Really? https://i.imgur.com/aHgib3Z.png

This is about as much of a mood detriment as you getting shot

"There's a spot of filth in my throne room -- Intolerable!"

[static bluff]

The indignity

[visual hill]

Fixing those games helps other games run, because overall accuracy goes up

[arctic fern]

He's a noble, of course he's picky

[random steppe]

He got shot in his dignity, have some respect

[slim thorn]

I almost forgot about this guy

murders

oh wow I actually needed that, I think that just got me the hat I need to play half the blocked stuff in my AHiT

[gaunt marten]

I always think of Marmu as a girl

[slim thorn]

I figured it was ambiguous

of course, I always forget where that pit trap to deepnest is

I just did most of queen's garden backwards, found the passage to fungal wastes, and immediately fell down it

this feels like a trap

[slim thorn]

oh yeah, you can meet him in two different parts of eastern Deepnest, so rando lets you meet him twice

[gaunt marten]

Yep!

[slim thorn]

dreamnails Zote

I'm almost disappointed to learn he really is that dumb

[gaunt marten]

Or he's just playing dumb and is one of the few creatures who can talk to you when you dreamnail them

Zote is just playing 12D chess with you

[slim thorn]

btw, Archipelago support for Ender Lilies just hit open alpha status, so I might be playing that next time

[gaunt marten]

I'm still waiting for that game to go down to a reasonable price

[fresh bane]

https://twitter.com/StreetFighter/status/1707107848269029700

Street Fighter (@StreetFighter)

⚠️ ¡ES HOY! ⚠️

#StreetFighter6 now supports Latin American Spanish in subtitles and other texts! 🙌🙌

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2336

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273

▶ Play video

Twitter · Sep 27, 2023, 7:00 PM

let's goooooooooooooo

Would be cool to have spanish voices too the last '''''fighting game'''''' I can remember that had a lot of language options was Storm 4 with the latin american dub which was awesome

also check out this super cute art for the chipotle crossover thing 🌯 nom

[quartz pawn]

Totally not Talim

[fresh bane]

That's not Totally-Not-Talim
This is Totally-Not-Talim

[thorny loom]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2344520/Diablo_IV/

Steam

Diablo® IV

Join the fight for Sanctuary in Diablo IV, the ultimate action RPG adventure. Experience the campaign and new seasonal content.Diablo® IV Standard Edition includes:- Inarius Wings & Inarius Murloc Pet in Diablo® III**- Amalgam of Rage Mount in World of Warcraft®**

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[quiet swift]

They did just have a dev talk stream and they're listening to feedback. Doing as many changes as they can that is short of needing an xpac for major major changes

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/diablo-4-season-2-season-of-blood-developer-update-livestream-summary-335335

And even though that is saying "soon", the date is oct 17th

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7juJgPbQx8w Some of these are good, some are absolutely cursed

[fresh bane]

That thumbnail looks super fake but I actually do wonder why I seem to find so many issues with character models and faces on newer games compared to older games

I know it has something to do with the baked lighting and texture work of older games vs the modern ones that mostly use a lot of real time lighting stuff which can make models look super flat but it seems like something they'd figure out how to prevent but it happens a lot

like holy shit

[quiet swift]

Nah the thumbnail's pretty accurate to what they showed in the vid. They used a few different tools to get it like that and it's purely based off of videos found online rather than anything ripped from a game

[fresh bane]

Oh of course they're using ai

Yeah a lot of the comments express my issues with the video watching through it pretty well, but anyways I still wonder why devs don't seem to include more baked lighting into their stuff to make up for the things real time lighting can't do

[quiet swift]

Time and money and resources and whatnot. Needing a minimum threshold of performance if they implement that stuff which they might not be able to do given their release time frame

[fresh bane]

I guess so, I noticed a lot of people ''''complaining'''' about the downgrade, and I understand there's a lot that goes into game development especially if you're trying to make a game more stable or be able to run on specific specs so you pretty much have to downgrade but it's pretty noticeable

Mostly with games that try super hard to go for realism and don't really quite nail the lighting and models, at least after a downgrade like that, for Starfield it's even worse because of the weird facial expressions which is a pretty huge part about making characters look believable and alive

Doesn't matter how much you ''fix'' the face if the animations are janky and unnatural it's going to look like a reptilian in a flesh suit trying to fit in

[quiet swift]

Indeed

[fresh bane]

I can't stop myself from bringing up SH3 for discussions like these because it's easily the best looking PS2 game and still looks fantastic especially when talking about expressions and models

fucking incredible looking game for 2003

this game is as old as me

[quiet swift]

You whippersnapper

[random steppe]

I mean, let's be honest, the faces in Starfield look fine.
If you don't like the game I doubt that making more high res faces is gonna change your opinion on it.

[fresh bane]

I'm not really singling out Starfield or talking about what the game is like I'm just commenting on something I notice with modern games

[slim thorn]

I've never had a strong opinion on a video game's human face fidelity, which I assume is related to the fact that I'm bad at facial recognition irl

[river veldt]

same lol

[random steppe]

I think it's definitely a value added if it's good

But it's also not a deal breaker unless it's like, really bad

[fresh bane]

Like I said the bigger problem is more facial animations rather than ''bad'' faces

[random steppe]

We all cried at undertale and that's like, as low as you can get as facial fidelity

[sour hill]

Definitely

[sour hill]

That doesn't count though, it's on the other side of the uncanny valley

[random steppe]

Yeah I'm just saying you don't need to have lifelike facial fidelity to tell a story that connects well

[fresh bane]

Yeah but I don't think any of us were arguing that

[random steppe]

It's something that can help for sure but not something you need

[sour hill]

I could if y'all want me to

[random steppe]

I wasn't specifically talking about you, more a comment about the "we fixed faces in games" article

[river veldt]

corridor crew

did they make a Minecraft video

[random steppe]

Video yeah

[sour hill]

Crewmate

[river veldt]

like in 2013

[river veldt]

IMPSITER

[random steppe]

If Starfield had higher fidelity faces it'd be the exact same game

[fresh bane]

I think it's totally fair to talk about 'fixing faces' when the game actively puts them up in your bussiness like this and makes a big deal out of having good visuals

[random steppe]

At least for me

[river veldt]

that looks pretty good to me

[random steppe]

Yeah like, I see nothing wrong with it

[fresh bane]

Well I didn't say there was anything wrong with it

Not that one anyways

[random steppe]

Well if you are fixing something, the implication is that there was something wrong with it

[fresh bane]

But I'm not the one talking about fixing the ones on the video are the ones talking about fixing something

[river veldt]

man this is a silly converstion

[fresh bane]

It is a silly conversation

[random steppe]

I just think it's inconsequential

To a decent extent, I also changed my mind about Bethesda using an old engine.
I don't think it matters, very few of the problems in the game stem from the engine, the game plays pretty well, all of the problems I would classify as game design problems.

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/laid-off-bioware-employees-sue-over-severance-pay-we-are-struggling-to-understand-why-bioware-is-shortchanging-us/

[dense crypt]

Not hard to figure out, money matters more to them than you people ever will.

[visual hill]

I think Starfield looks quite good, aside of questionable color grading choices (which kill the image's contrast)

a game doesn't have to use cutting-edge graphics features to look nice, even if it aims for realism

[thorny loom]

Its a really good game if you went into it expecting a bethesda style game

[random steppe]

I think there were some minor changes that would have made it much more enjoyable, and that bethesda isn't really that good at delivering a tight product mechanic wise sadly, because there is a lot of potential in the game.

But all the problems that tie to the engine, were much less pronounced in this one, so I don't think it's as much of a problem as I thought it was

They clearly just cooked this one some more and it turned out much better

[light gate]

It’s like everyone got amnesia and forgot how bad Cyberpunk launched originally. Basic game systems were absolutely broken, missing asset boxes, extremely buggy missions, and high instability.

[thorny loom]

I remember

[rose rose]

I played cyberpunk at launch and it had none of those problems.

Except it did crash once every few hours.

[light gate]

Doesn’t justify a broken game sure, but dear god forbid a broken game launches in today’s date.

[random steppe]

During my recent playthrough I did find a couple of bugged missions still, but it was a much less common experience

[rose rose]

(apparently the periodic crashing was due to a memory leak)

[random steppe]

Also they just released what is basically a rework of all of its systems, I'd expect a couple of new bugs to pop up

[light gate]

I bug any video game, so no game is safe from my grasp. Starfield included.

[thorny loom]

I remember it was actually removed digitally for a bit outside of steam due to performance issues

[rose rose]

Sony removed it because it did not work at all on the base PS4

[thorny loom]

Particularly ps4 and xbox one

Yeah ms removed it on there store too

[rose rose]

But outside of last-gen base consoles it worked fine.

[rose rose]

I'm pretty sure that's false.

[random steppe]

The game ran okay on PC, but also lots of graphic glitches and lot of cut corners

[rose rose]

I played through the whole thing on PS5 (which was actually just the PS4 version at the time) and it was fine.

[random steppe]

Honestly the worst part was that the systems were just not fun to interact with.

[rose rose]

It also worked fine on high-end PCs. And was something of a surprise hit for Stadia due to working great there too.

[light gate]

This was my gripe.

[rose rose]

One might argue that it was not fun, but calling it completely broken is massive exaggeration

(except on last gen base consoles where it actually was completely broken)

[random steppe]

Let's put it this way, the frequency you ran into bugs was not acceptable.

[light gate]

Oh I managed to break it terribly, its literally a “your mileage may vary”.

[random steppe]

It was pretty constant

[rose rose]

I don't think I ran into any notable ones.

[random steppe]

This is my favourite clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZxPjcyNv40

It's like, art

Him sliding away is so beautiful

[light gate]

Also Bethesda games have always been buggy.

Doesn’t make it an excuse but its something to not forget.

[random steppe]

Yeah it set expectations

Cyberpunk was also a failure of expectations

[light gate]

I just am not liking that now every game must be BG3 or gamers will riot now, that game really came out at the worst possible time.

[random steppe]

They told us to not set our expectations to BG3 level, we derided them, but they were right

[light gate]

It’s also incredible how Starfield even runs under the hellish Creation Engine, that is an achievement alright. Even have ladders that you can climb.

lol

[random steppe]

Joking aside Starfield could be much better even without citing BG3 as a comparison, the fact that you loot 10 items and your inventory is full, and then your party members keep loot shaming you, was something that was never a good idea.

[light gate]

I found it funny.

[slim thorn]

took a lot of attempts, but I believe this is this first boss I've ever done out of logic in any rando; she had my dash (and HK lantern) and I had only 3 of the sword upgrades

[random steppe]

I found if funny the first few times, now it's just annoying as hell

[light gate]

But yeah it does get annoying.

[random steppe]

It's just bad game design in a game about looting shit

[light gate]

Yeah…

[random steppe]

And to be clear, BG3 had also a shitty inventory system

So it's not like they did it so much better.
They just let you send stuff to camp whenever which isn't a fix, it's a bandaid, but at least they recognised it was bad

[light gate]

Honestly I’m surprised how much I tend to carry on Starfield.

[river veldt]

the best inventory system in any game ever is

idk

[light gate]

Its more forgiving than previous bethesda entry titles.

[random steppe]

That's a good question

[light gate]

There really isn’t one I think.

[river veldt]

i liked BotW/TotK's

[light gate]

The main problem is that there is no definite solution, only solutions that solve most problems.

[river veldt]

or Minecraft i guess

[light gate]

Minecraft’s inventory system only works for PC.

[gaunt marten]

Factorio

[light gate]

Use a controller and its just bad.

[random steppe]

Yeah the problem with good inventory systems is that they just don't get in the way.
It's rare that you meet one that just enhances the experience

[light gate]

No, Factorio’s one is pretty rough. I tend to get confused often and never use the bottom bar shortcuts as a result.

[rose rose]

Second Life. "yeah I have seventeen thousand things in my inventory, what of it?"

(joking. mostly.)

[light gate]

[slim thorn]

the optimal inventory system depends heavily on how much inventory-ing there is to do in the game

[river veldt]

i do !!! i play Bedrock a lot

[slim thorn]

lots of games have such a small set of items to manage that they can automatically do it all for us and we don't even think of them as having an "inventory system"

[rose rose]

SL does have the wild innovation of a search bar in the inventory window. Also a folder hierarchy.

[gaunt marten]

I don't think I can think of a way to make it less confusing without making it just worse

[rose rose]

(seventeen thousand things if, if anything, an understatement)

[light gate]

Welcome to UX.

[gaunt marten]

I don't want UX. I want it to be useful

[random steppe]

Oh wow, google brought me to this site, I didn't know it existed but it's kind of awesome: https://interfaceingame.com/

[slim thorn]

one of the fundamental tensions of UX is that the more features you have, necessarily the more clicks/buttons/inputs it takes to perform any and every action; after a certain point the only way to have a smoother UX is to start deleting real features

[visual hill]

there's also https://www.gameuidatabase.com/

[gaunt marten]

Does it show off SkyUI or just Skyrim's unmodded interface?

[gaunt marten]

Exactly, and I'd never do that for Factorio

[slim thorn]

Minecraft's problem is having a bazillion unique items while also wanting to restrict how much and how many kinds you can carry at a time; I don't see any true solution to it besides giving Steve hilarious carry capacity or deleting hundreds of items from the game

the former being what will likely happen

shulker boxes were already a big step in that direction

[gaunt marten]

Fourier transform items

[river veldt]

we were supposed to get bundles which were like backpacks but idk what happened to them

[random steppe]

You know what, I think I might give the crown to Witcher 3 personally
It's not perfect but after the many patches they made to fix it, the several categories it had really made it pretty good to interact with

It was a terrible inventory system on release but by the time the 2nd expansion arrived it was actually brilliant

[light gate]

I didn’t finish Witcher 3

I lost interest when I got to a Castle City?

[river veldt]

i played until after the fetus thing which made me depressed and then dropped it

[slim thorn]

I did finish W3 and its expansions, but I was very much playing for the story

[gaunt marten]

Being able to transform some items into others makes it possible to have a higher effective carrying capacity and adds a planning element to the inventory

Plus

https://xkcd.com/26/

xkcd: Fourier

That cat has some serious periodic components

[visual hill]

I feel like I spend a lot of time in W3 inventory compared to gameplay, but not much can be done about it I guess

[random steppe]

I had to mod the game for me to like the gameplay

[visual hill]

even in something like Deus Ex with its inventory tetris, I spend more time playing

[river veldt]

WAIT NEVER MIND

best inventory system in any game ever is RE4

[light gate]

Never played RE4

[gaunt marten]

RE4's inventory system was fun but also really annoying

[slim thorn]

speaking of Minecraft... another very common and often very good solution to video game inventories is the separation between items that should have some artificial scarcity for gameplay reasons, and items that should not (key items, quest items, etc) and instead go into an infinite bag of holding

[gaunt marten]

You basically had to play Tetris with items to fit as many into the backpack as possible

[river veldt]

it's crazy how good that game is

[light gate]

Bag of holding?

[river veldt]

like in DnD

what Doomguy has

[light gate]

I don’t follow.

[river veldt]

it's a bag you can put as much stuff as you want in

[slim thorn]

Minecraft's always been a little weird in having a "survival" element that loses all meaningful challenge after your first several hours in a world, and I don't see much sign of that changing, so I'd recommend they separate their items into stuff that should and should not be scarce and simply give you a creative mode inventory for the latter (e.g. all the aesthetic blocks and items with no special functions)

[light gate]

Minecraft has an item carry limit.

[gaunt marten]

Tap Wizard 2 is an incremental game that's pretty janky but has a very interesting inventory system where every mechanic of the game (except moving) is an item which you can manipulate and sort and put inside other items.

[river veldt]

yeah but ixrec was speaking hypothetically

[light gate]

It was not clear.

Okay.

[slim thorn]

"bag of holding" was originally a literal magical bag from D&D that was simply much bigger on the inside, but it's now a common term for any fictional inventory system (video game or otherwise) that effectively has infinite space yet still allows the character to instantly retrieve whatever item they want

[river veldt]

Doomguy has one

Link has one

there are probably others

[visual hill]

Deus Ex keeps making me drop PS20s so I can eat that bag of soy and beer can on the floor

[random steppe]

Yeah no, I didn't appreciate it at the time, but I ended up missing how granularly the items were subdivided in W3 when playing RPGs later.
https://www.gameuidatabase.com/uploads/The-Witcher-3-Wild-Hunt07202020-101519-25237.jpg

This is good

[slim thorn]

(I'd honestly go so far as to say I'm not sure any items in Minecraft benefit from inventory scarcity, but that's a harder sell)

[river veldt]

GOOD LORD HE'S NUDE

[visual hill]

the subdivision is good, and sorting options are powerful enough for most situations

[gaunt marten]

He's dressed to kill

[river veldt]

these icons remind me too much of MMOs

[slim thorn]

MMORPGs are RPGs after all

[river veldt]

mmos give me such sensory overload

wait is it wednesday

[slim thorn]

W3 comes up a lot in these discussions because it's such a good and not-that-old example of a "traditional western RPG" before some of the more recent trends (especially streamlining) we usually end up discussing

[gaunt marten]

It is Wednesday and you missed the alert

[river veldt]

i didn't miss the alert

[gaunt marten]

It triggered two minutes earlier than it should have

[river veldt]

it did !

did other countries have it or was it just united states

[slim thorn]

each country has their own emergency policies (which may or may not include an alert system like this), there's no global system for this

afaik the US was the only country testing anything today

at least, my phone did not attempt to deafen me

[river veldt]

ok cool

my roommate said something bad was going to happen because of the test

but all that happened was an alarm went off and then it was done

so idk wtf he's talking about

sorry that was rambly

um

how about Super Mario Bros Wonder eh

[quiet swift]

based on various tweet screenshots i've seen get posted recently, various conspiracy theories and stuff wandering into rule 2 territory

[river veldt]

oh

[quiet swift]

So your roomate might just be a gigantic dumbass

[river veldt]

LOL

yeah pribabbly

[mossy flume]

Yeah, there were a bunch of utterly baseless and asinine conspiracy theories going around about the test.

[river veldt]

weird

are you guys excited for Super Mario Bros wonder

it is soon

[mossy flume]

Yus

[gaunt marten]

I'm excited for breakfast tomorrow

[river veldt]

who will you play as

[mossy flume]

Maryoh

Or weegee, one of those

[random steppe]

This year the game of the year discussion will be interesting.

[river veldt]

i will play as Mario or Peach probably

[random steppe]

My guess is that at the awards Zelda will take it

[river veldt]

nominees will probably be TotK, Baldur's Gate 3

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[random steppe]

Yeah it's one or the other

Arguably RE4 remake deserves a nomination at least
Spiderman 2 if it does well

[river veldt]

right

so TotK, BG3, RE4r, and Spider-Man 2

[mossy flume]

BG3 will probably take it, I'd bet

[river veldt]

my personal goty so far is TotK, but Wonder and Mario RPG Remake might snatch that crown

[gaunt marten]

Can't have that discussion before the year ends

[river veldt]

yes you can. the Game Awards are always before the year ends

[mossy flume]

It's in December

[river veldt]

it's been a really solid year

[mossy flume]

FF16 will probably be on the list too

[gaunt marten]

Yeah but we don't know if Silksong will be out

[random steppe]

[mossy flume]

Hi-Fi Rush too

[river veldt]

i completely forgot about FFXVI

[slim thorn]

everyone did

[river veldt]

i also forgot about that game

[mossy flume]

Hey, FF16 is actually really good

[slim thorn]

ironically now that I've watched the full FF series retrospective, 16 is the only one I'm seriously interested in playing

[quiet swift]

Dead Space remake, perhaps?

[mossy flume]

Starfield too

[river veldt]

the only FF im interested in playing is Mario RPG /j

[hidden cypress]

FF16 was dope

loved the story and combat

[quiet swift]

Jesus christ, Hogwarts Legacy was this year?

[slim thorn]

yup

[random steppe]

For the stuff that has yet to come out Alan Wake 2 might do better than expected.
Also Lords of the Fallen

maybe

[quiet swift]

That's almost surely to be nominated

[random steppe]

3rd time's the charm

[slim thorn]

like many years in this decade, it might as well have been a decade in one year

[mossy flume]

Oh yeah, Hogwarts Legacy was S tier

[slim thorn]

or we're just getting old, hard to tell

[hidden cypress]

dead space remake was also great first time I played a remake and truely believed it enhanced the original

[mossy flume]

Story was alright, but the experience was absolutely lovely

[quiet swift]

[insert both.gif here]

[mossy flume]

I'd be a little surprised if its not nominated

[slim thorn]

DS does have the benefit of being a very "safe" remake, but yeah, they nailed everything

[river veldt]

do you think Geoff Keighley plays every game released in a year so he can determine which games get nominated

[hidden cypress]

I thought they were gonna cut out the asteroid segment but they actually made it fun

[slim thorn]

I don't think any awards show has a process like that

there's too much being released in any medium

[river veldt]

why is Geoff just hanging out with Hideo Kojima what the hell

[hidden cypress]

whos gonna sabotage geoff Keighley this time

[river veldt]

god i wish that were me

[river veldt]

i hope no one

[quiet swift]

But yeah of top releases this year I'd say TOTK, BG3, Hogwarts are the guaranteed nominations. RE4r and FF16 are likelies

[river veldt]

wait who won goty last year

elden ring

[hidden cypress]

Orthodox rabbi bill clinton

[random steppe]

I mean, I unironically hope they get security on point, because at some point you'll get something that's not a relatively harmless prank if they don't

[river veldt]

Elden Ring was last year????

what the fuck is time

[mossy flume]

Yep

[quiet swift]

"Release February 25, 2022"

[slim thorn]

I know, it feels like everyone's been casually assuming literally everyone else also played ER for several years already

[quiet swift]

jan/feb releases feel like they were from a year extra ago

[hidden cypress]

Im actually really excited for the game awards this year bc so much quality stuff got released this year

[river veldt]

same

[mossy flume]

Yeah, this year will be hard

[fickle garnet]

I should replay elden ring

[mossy flume]

I'm surprised that AC6 just kinda dropped off the face of the earth after a couple days

[hidden cypress]

I still gotta play it

[slim thorn]

I think all of these games did if we weren't talking to people playing them

[quiet swift]

I think it was too difficult even for elden ringers

[hidden cypress]

I gotta beat starfield still

[random steppe]

It's good but also it's a mecha game, not that many people are interested in the genre compared to ER

It still sold as much as a Dark Souls game, which is impressive

[fickle garnet]

I still need to finish AC6

[rose rose]

How many people are interested in misery simulators?

[hidden cypress]

me

I do like me some kenshi

[slim thorn]

I mean I loved Kentucky Route Zero

[fresh bane]

I wouldn't say that

[slim thorn]

seriously though I don't know which game Peach is snarking at, there are multiple candidates

[random steppe]

I am much more miserable when a game offer no challenge for the runtime of it than playing a souls, so I don't get why it'd be a misery simulator

[fickle garnet]

Im stuck on the chapter 2 final boss in AC6

[fresh bane]

I don't think Armored Core ever was a franchise that pulled in numbers and generated discussion like the Souls franchise

[random steppe]

People just find compelling different experiences

[fresh bane]

But that doesn't mean it disappeared at all

[slim thorn]

Blasphemous 2 was also this year but no one besides me talks about it here

[rose rose]

Elden Ring in this case

[hidden cypress]

I wanna play it

its just so hard to find time between all these releases

[random steppe]

It did pull a HK and release at the worst possible time

I'll definitely play it but it'll be some time

[slim thorn]

ironically the perfect time for me, but true

[fresh bane]

You wanna talk about games nobody talks about I was the only one posting about Bomb Rush Cyberfunk here

and that game is incredible

[hidden cypress]

again another game I wanna play but thats also because they brought Hideki Naganuma to do the soundtrack

[fresh bane]

Don't sleep on the other guest artists

[slim thorn]

I've also recently ended up in the weird position of watching for randomizer releases, so now some of the games that I played already are effectively new again for me (including one just today)

[hidden cypress]

I aint sleepin but naganuma gets me like

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/nbogUmJkeBI?si=o1k6PMCw5GwP4tXf

Glad 2mello made it into the game

:twidance:

[slim thorn]

speaking of which, ^this got buried in Starfield talk, and Nire's here now

[fresh bane]

I have no idea what that is

[slim thorn]

lol

one of the NG+ bosses

[river veldt]

idk if i even played any indies this year

i might have played a little Isaac towards the beginning of the year but i think that's it

[gaunt marten]

It's been a great year for indie games

[river veldt]

what ones have come out

[quiet swift]

Let's see, what i've played this year... 20 min till dawn, elden ring, persona 4 golden, pyre, wild hearts, vampire survivors, rogue genesia, halls of torment, D4, crab champions, disfigure, BG3, tunic, party animals

And of course WoW and Hearthstone (mostly battlegrounds)

[river veldt]

OMG yeah Vampire Survivors !

ive played that

how could i forget

Tcher who is your favourite character

[quiet swift]

Poe? Garlic guy

[river veldt]

OMG SAME

[visual hill]

Hi-Fi Rush too

[quiet swift]

(oh and Titanfall 2 as well)

[river veldt]

garlic is so fucking op lmao

[quiet swift]

And I guess i'm doing another run of cyberpunk what with the xpac

[fresh bane]

Hi Fi isn't indie that's from Tango Gameworks

[rose rose]

Hey, Microsoft is a small indie company

[fresh bane]

Bomb Rush is indie, I think I don't really know what Team Reptile has done in the past

Blasph 2 also came out this year too

[visual hill]

it is indie, yes

but yeah, Hi-Fi Rush blends in as indie in my mind

good ol' "cartoon = indie" association

it probably tells that AAAs should make more cartoon-looking games. 🙂

[fresh bane]

Windwaker is my favourite indie game /s

[slim thorn]

cartoon = indie or nintendo, often both if you include nintendo-likes

[white phoenix]

does anime count

[slim thorn]

nope

[fresh bane]

Hi Fi is extremely well done presentation wise the cel shaded cartoon graphics deceive you into thinking it's indie but then when I played Bomb Rush Cyberfunk I noticed super quickly how these two styles can look so drastically different quality wise

Bomb Rush looks great mind you and I'm sure the lower fidelity look is definitely because of the JSR inspiration

but side to side with Hi Fi it's night and day

[river veldt]

"nintendo-likes"???

[slim thorn]

Mario-likes such as A Hat in Time, Zelda-likes such as Tunic, etc

not a precise category

[river veldt]

i didn't know mario had a whole thing

[slim thorn]

I mean, the early Mario games basically invented the platformer genre

any (non-action, non-puzzle, non-precision) platformer with a lighthearted and whimsical cartoony aesthetic is going to get the comparison

[gaunt marten]

Pizza Tower, Dave the Diver, Brotato, Dredge, Boneraiser Minions, Wildfrost, Blasphemous 2, Luck be a Landlord, 20 Minutes Till Dawn

[river veldt]

hat is Dave the Diver

w

[astral steeple]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatch-2-season-7-is-getting-a-hellish-crossover-with-diablo-4/1100-6518115/

[slim thorn]

I'm only aware of two of those lol (three if you count GtG)

[gaunt marten]

Oh and Goodbye Volcano High

[slim thorn]

edit: three (four)

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1868140/DAVE_THE_DIVER/

Steam

DAVE THE DIVER

・An adventure, RPG, management hybridExplore and unravel the mysteries in the depths of the Blue Hole by day and run a successful exotic sushi restaurant by night.It’s easy to get hooked on the satisfying gameplay loop!・Casual combat and gathering gameplay with rogue-like elementsDive into the ever-changing Blue Hole and use a harpoon and other ...

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

53669

Metacritic

90

▶ Play video

And that's just the new releases. A lot of indie games enjoy a long tail, and many have been getting very interesting updates this year

[visual hill]

Halls of Torment came out in 2023, so did Brotato and Cassette Beasts

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zCr1qKrQ0

The game has a killer soundtrack

[fresh bane]

Also I totally forgot to do this earlier but here's a visual comparison

The low poly low detail look definitely helps when you're doing a lower budget more indie game, Tango had some crazy budget and talent for Hi Fi it looks way too good sometimes

also 808 is still one of the cutest fucking things in videogame history

[river veldt]

wish it would come to Switch 😔

[fresh bane]

look at how cute this fucking thing is

I remember people asking for 808 to become the xbox mascot because she's so cute

[slim thorn]

thinks of Morgana from P5R

[mossy flume]

They really should though

[fresh bane]

As someone who has never played P5 I can't relate

[mossy flume]

Bruh

Persona 5 is incredible

[gaunt marten]

Incredibly expensive

[mossy flume]

The soundtrack alone is S tier

[gaunt marten]

I'm still waiting for 4 to get discounted

[fresh bane]

I don't really care about that game personally

[mossy flume]

Fair enough

[slim thorn]

it's weird to describe game playing as "productive", but I think I just spent a whole day bouncing between these randomized games until they're nearly all past 50% completion, and I'm pretty sure three of them were closer to 30% when I started

[gaunt marten]

I wanna play

[white phoenix]

[slim thorn]

to be fair I would never have seen the Personas if not for Tale

the stories are great, but as games they're not my thing at all

[white phoenix]

I thought so too when I realized it was turn based, but I enjoyed the gameplay

[gaunt marten]

What about Shin Megami Tensei?

Is that how it's spelled?

[slim thorn]

it is, but I have no interest in those

[dire gate]

DtD is technically not an indie game

[fresh bane]

the only persona game I actually care about is 3

[mossy flume]

P5 is a bit different from the rest though

[gaunt marten]

Oh it's a subsidiary of Nexon

[dire gate]

Yeah

It still has the vibe tho

[gaunt marten]

No it makes perfect sense because it's basically a single player MMO

[slim thorn]

argh, my leftclaw was at a Tunic puzzle I visited last time and was too lazy to figure out

anyway that's enough hints I should be able to finish at least 1 of these tomorrow

now I need something more relaxing so I'll try another of those platformers from the bundle Hat in Time came in

[river veldt]

Persona 5 made me bored :(

[slim thorn]

100+ hour stories do not seem like your thing

[gaunt marten]

Persona 5 made me bread

[dire gate]

That is why they made P5 Anime

[fresh bane]

Don't mess with p5 fans

they don't even know it's a videogame

[white phoenix]

persona fan finally plays persona

[fresh bane]

and hates it

[slim thorn]

final fantasy fan finally plays a 2nd final fantasy

[gaunt marten]

They're called Final Fantasy fans, not Final Fantasy 2 fans

[river veldt]

yeah probably

[dire gate]

NA Final Fantasy fan hears that FF6 is amazing, getting confused that they have 1-3 and then 7

[fresh bane]

what do you mean there's other final fantasy games other than 7?

[hidden cypress]

ffxiv fans when they find out its a series

[dense crypt]

i finished FF5 a week or two ago, FF7 felt kinda lame in comparison

[white phoenix]

final fantasy fans learn what numbers are

[fresh bane]

Since I'm not super into FF I wonder if FF fans dislike 7 or think other FFs are better than 7

I know FF4 is generally regarded as pretty damn good, I actually played that one, I never finished it

[gaunt marten]

FF7 is well liked

The most liked are 14, 10, 9 and 7

[slim thorn]

honestly, I'm not sure there is a clear group of "FF fans" in general, it feels more like the most popular FFs each have their own separate fanbases that maybe played one or two of the nearby FFs but still not most of the series

[gaunt marten]

My favorites are 8, 10, 2, 9 and 7

[hidden cypress]

FF8 appreciator

[gaunt marten]

There's lots of groups that play most games.

You might not encounter them because people who play all Final Fantasy games don't have much time to play other games

[hidden cypress]

yall can hate me, but I love 15

[gaunt marten]

I want to try 15

[slim thorn]

I'm saying those people are a vanishingly small minority compared to all the people that ever played any FFs

[gaunt marten]

Square Enix won't even sell it to me

[slim thorn]

not that they don't exist at all

[hidden cypress]

no boyband simulator

[gaunt marten]

I guess they don't like the optics

[slim thorn]

everything I know about 15 comes from that huge FF retrospective video, and I get why someone would find that particular one the most appealing

[rose rose]

I really did not like 15 combat

Mostly because I did not understand 15 combat

[hidden cypress]

15 was the first one I played so I think it will always be significant to me

also yeah the combat is unusual

I still think they should of went w the combat model from the episode tenebrae demo

[fresh bane]

Weirdly I'm not really into the sci fi-ish ''modern'' Final Fantasy outside of Crisis Core which is the only one I actually played through to the end

So I never cared for 15

I like the fantasy aesthetics of 4, 9, 14

[hidden cypress]

I just love the boyband in 15 and honestly letting ignis drive w music on was a mood

[rose rose]

I feel like 14 has more sci-fi hiding in it than 15 did

[dire gate]

How did you totally skip 6

[river veldt]

im a basic bitch and like FFVII

[gaunt marten]

Didn't have an SNES

So I have no experience with 6

[river veldt]

i love Midgar so much

[dire gate]

Yes but that's "the most liked", not "your favorite"

[fresh bane]

I never usually hear about FF5 or 6

[dire gate]

6 is one of the fan favorites

[fresh bane]

What are they about?

[rose rose]

Though I never finished 15 so I don't actually know that you don't at some point get in a spaceship and head off into the universe

[gaunt marten]

I just never think about it

[hidden cypress]

ff6 was defo the one I heard the most growing up

[gaunt marten]

Crystals plus mecha

[hidden cypress]

other than 7

[dire gate]

6 is the one they started to go with steampunk vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1W7b4B2tY

[fresh bane]

sounds awesome

[dire gate]

Have a top-tier intro sequence

[hidden cypress]

the intro is iconic

[river veldt]

does Super Mario RPG count as a Final Fantasy /j

[hidden cypress]

Terras theme is amazing

[fresh bane]

Oh they really are mechas

huh

[rose rose]

FF likes its mechs

[hidden cypress]

magitek

gotta love it

[gaunt marten]

That's what I said

[fresh bane]

I actually like that

It's like introducing sci fi tech into a fantasy world without fully going into a sci fi futuristic world

[gaunt marten]

I played a PS1 port of FF6 but never got beyond the snail whatever the fuck it is tutorial boss

[hidden cypress]

didnt the ps1 port have like super long load times?

[visual hill]

Thief does that a lot

[gaunt marten]

I played it for like an hour

[fresh bane]

I always forget to play Thief

I've wanted to get around to playing that for so long

[gaunt marten]

Final Fantasy 8 is like that in a different way. The world is contemporary with very little advanced technology, but also there's magic, primarily fueled by sorceresses.

[visual hill]

They're waiting for you. In the test chamber…

[slim thorn]

in this case, quite literally; the backstory of FF6 involves magic being mostly lost and humanity going steampunk for a while until the main story kicks off and there are varying opinions about whether bringing back magic would be a good idea

[visual hill]

wait, wrong game

[fresh bane]

Oh yeah I've seen very little of 8 but I do like the aesthetic of that game too
I actually had a music disc as a kid that had an AMV of FF8's opening with some song that I completely forget what it even was but I remember loving that video

[hidden cypress]

I was kinda sad when I found out not a lot of people like ff8 after I beat it

I thought it was great

[slim thorn]

I was always puzzled by that aspect of 8 until I watched the aforementioned video

and now it makes sense; the narrative is very focused on its protagonist's perspective and internal thoughts, and only works if you empathize with him

[gaunt marten]

https://ocremix.org/album/100/final-fantasy-viii-seeds-of-pandora

I mostly like it for the optional bosses

[slim thorn]

there's a bunch of polarizing stories like that which are made or broken by whether the viewer empathizes with the main character or just finds them annoying

[hidden cypress]

I didnt even attempt the superboss ngl

[gaunt marten]

You have to fight X-ATM092

It's not optional

[slim thorn]

Evangelion is the first example that pops to mind for me

[hidden cypress]

im talking about omega weapon

[gaunt marten]

Omega Weapon is no fun because you just abuse Holy Wars

If he were a little easier or the game gave you more options he'd be fun

(Holy War is an item that makes your whole party completely invincible for a time. You can make a bunch of it by transforming cards)

[hidden cypress]

I used it for ultimecia

what was the spell that lets you use limit breaks way more?

[gaunt marten]

Aura

[hidden cypress]

Just spammed lion heart

[gaunt marten]

Ultimecia has a secret spell you can draw that no other enemies have

But since she's the final boss you never get to junction that spell to stats

[hidden cypress]

didnt even realize that ngl

Apocalypse right?

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[hidden cypress]

learn something new everyday

[glossy narwhal]

https://youtu.be/w47ezvnpEhw?si=lArZqK6mCvrveMNG

Certainly can't say I expected a recent DDR release to feature a bront musician for their premiere song to play

[dire gate]

I mean she is much more than just "a brony musician"

[glossy narwhal]

It's still very nice to see

Enjoy their recent stuff

[teal cliff]

okay so now we get Vylet Pony in DDR right

[little badger]

@mossy flume https://twitter.com/cyberpunkgame/status/1709872592780173416?

Cyberpunk 2077 (@CyberpunkGame)

Patch 2.01 for #Cyberpunk2077 and #PhantomLiberty is being rolled out on PC, PS5 and Xbox Series X|S! It fixes the most common issues players have encountered and improves overall performance on all platforms, especially in Dogtown.

List of changes: https://t.co/QwLjGPLejQ

Likes

492

Twitter · Oct 5, 2023, 10:06 AM

[peak berry]

skeleton army

[river veldt]

https://fixupx.com/nintendouk/status/1709902163529420803?s=46

@kind shadow

[light gate]

no… MY WALLET!

[river veldt]

haha

i desperately need an Isabelle minifigure

[gaunt marten]

Does an Amiibo count?

[little badger]

https://twitter.com/wario64/status/1709926024899924326? @bitter stream

Wario64 (@Wario64)

Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core - Teaser trailer (coming to Steam early access) https://t.co/ZAJ4i16Gt4

https://t.co/jVF7tZjgkL

Likes

332

Twitter · Oct 5, 2023, 1:38 PM

[arctic fern]

Oooooo

[bitter stream]

aye aye! it's really really early to announce though

it's like, barely started in development

it won't hit early access till nov 2024

I'm actually watching the devstream that announced it right now

[little badger]

Oooooh

[green fulcrum]

Is it a sequel or an expansion pack?

[arctic fern]

Separate game

[green fulcrum]

Oh cool

Maybe this one is more story-based, given how it looks like you're exploring some dark, abandoned mining base?

[bitter stream]

Maybe? they announced a general theming story too it

but I don't know how deep they want to go with it

They did say that Season 5 of DRG will have like, a prelude to rogue core

in terms of indicating story wise what's happening

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2279330/Savant__Ascent_REMIX/

Steam

Savant - Ascent REMIX

Get ready for an adrenaline-filled elevator ride through a robot-infested tower. Wield powerful magic, and acrobatic moves as you reclaim the Alchemist’s domain from a horde of mechanical fiends.A follow-up to the award-winning Savant - Ascent, this fast paced adventure sets you off on a new path to greater heights! As a collab with musical arti...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

101

▶ Play video

They remastered the game

Giving it for free to the holders of the original one

[kind shadow]

that music just launched me physically and mentally back to march 2020 and the violently ripped me back to present time

[gaunt marten]

I still can't believe they kept Mario

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2279330/view/3753244307873174184?l=english

There we go

Stupid announcement refused to copy

And also the trailer https://youtu.be/2ccZ9wpeq_w

[bitter stream]

oh interesting

[visual hill]

rock and stone!!1 < upvotes to the left

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/minecraft/status/1709946963083563054?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Minecraft (@Minecraft)

Mob Vote reveal

Do you want the penguin to be the next mob to waddle into Minecraft?

Voting begins October 13th!

https://t.co/NOMoN8OkXz

Likes

14724

Retweets

1734

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 5, 2023, 3:01 PM

[little badger]

⛏️

[dense crypt]

What is this

[little badger]

New TV Series @mossy flume https://twitter.com/cdprojektred_ir/status/1709940132328133085?

[mossy flume]

Oooooo

[little badger]

[mossy flume]

If Johnny Silverhand is in it, I'm guessing Keanu will be there

[rose rose]

No particular reason to assume he is, though, that I can see

[quiet swift]

I feel if they can get a similar vibe to what Altered Carbon had (early season 1), it should be a perfect fit for Cyberpunk

[mossy flume]

Right. No reason it can't just be another one-shot like Edgerunners was.

[quiet swift]

[random steppe]

Joking aside, and I have to preface I love Keanu, I don't think he is such a great pick for Johnny

he does the job but he just doesn't have the kind of rage and contempt for the world in him that characterise Johnny

On the other hand, Idris Elba for the DLC was an excellent pick, so you lose some, you win some

[green fulcrum]

.......Keanu literally plays a man so full of rage and contempt for the world because they killed his dog that he decides to become the world's greatest and deadliest assassin/killer.

[quiet swift]

That's a cold, controlled rage

Johnny's a more in your face, beat you with a lead pipe kind

[thorny loom]

Elden ring on sale

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1245620/ELDEN_RING/

Steam

ELDEN RING

THE NEW FANTASY ACTION RPG.Rise, Tarnished, and be guided by grace to brandish the power of the Elden Ring and become an Elden Lord in the Lands Between.• A Vast World Full of ExcitementA vast world where open fields with a variety of situations and huge dungeons with complex and three-dimensional designs are seamlessly connected. As you explore...

Price

$39.59

Recommendations

532721

Metacritic

94

▶ Play video

[quiet swift]

34% that's not bad

[gaunt marten]

The biotech expansion ending is the one I like best

You basically build up a million wealth over three stages, starting over after each 350k

[arctic fern]

ye

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/OWCavalry/status/1710000598077039058

wow

[wind stump]

OW2 dead game. Clown move by clown devs.

[wind stump]

oh my god i have 990 hours in Slay the Spire

[quiet swift]

That sounds like an addiction~

[thorny loom]

Pfff

Thats nothing compared to some of his older games

https://vxtwitter.com/ymt3d/status/1709645783379988574?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[quiet swift]

I linked their video a day or two ago

[river veldt]

in that first one they just removed all the blemishes and made her have perfect skin what

[quiet swift]

The tweet doesn't explain what tools they used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7juJgPbQx8w

[green fulcrum]

Ngl, the smooth skin makes them all look like plastic.

Not a good look

[river veldt]

yeah

[thorny loom]

Some of them look better. Most of them arnt noticeable or weird

[green fulcrum]

And also very incel-esque, only wanting "perfect women" in games. Never mind.

[quiet swift]

...

[thorny loom]

Cloud looks so weird

[green fulcrum]

Ah, they did men too

Never mind that last comment

But the smooth faces still look like plastic

[thorny loom]

Ironically the starfield one makes the faces look less jarring

[quiet swift]

I think that's a drawback of the tool and the fact they're using youtube videos as source (they even say that near the end of the vid)

Rather than having access to the models/the backend of the game itself to use the tool on

[thorny loom]

Sgt johnson was probably the best looking one imo

[quiet swift]

The smoothness isn't a choice they made, but an end result of the combination of tools

[thorny loom]

Like so cursed

[quiet swift]

Nathan Drake looked pretty good, I think

[green fulcrum]

This is the only one I agree with, but that's more because they completely updated the facial structure too and made it more realistic and less scrunched.

[quiet swift]

They had bonus ones in the video near the end

[little badger]

And what about XIV?

[thorny loom]

Sleeping doggos

[slim thorn]

oh no, I was so close to finishing my solo rando tonight

okay, regular zote down, that's step one

okay I'm still terrible at grey prince

[slim thorn]

phew, that felt like... 7 tries? even weakest dream zote has no right to be this hard

[little badger]

https://twitter.com/telltalegames/status/1710068819702456828?

[slim thorn]

...make that two today

these people are nuts

[gaunt marten]

Which two?

[slim thorn]

Ender Lilies and Blasphemous 2

[gaunt marten]

I have no idea how to keep track of which games make it to a beta state or better

Maybe the spreadsheet?

[slim thorn]

I don't think the spreadsheet gets consistent updates, I just joined the threads for every game I like and read updates when they happen

though both of these are more alpha than beta (if anyone still makes those distinctions)

[thorny loom]

https://reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/s/gk32vSl1vX

You know its bad when the moderators of the reddit are linking to how to refund the game

[gaunt marten]

I don't want to know about every game I like. I want to know about every game

Today I learned about an APworld file for
https://ff6worldscollide.com/

(a free enterprise style randomizer)

[random steppe]

It was very different
John Wick is vengeful, but also, it comes from a place of having been robbed of the person he loved and the ability to properly grieve her.
It's more sad than furious.

While Johnny Silverhand is a rage against the system as a whole, much less focused.
I just can't see Keanu in that role

Not to say he did a bad job, just that he wasn't the best actor for that role IMO

[slim thorn]

it's funny when the game I'm actually trying to finish says "now switch to Hollow Knight and kill this guy in particular to unblock everything"

was gonna leave everyone in soul sanctum alive but nope

took only 3 tries to relearn Crisanta's parry timing

buuuuut I accidentally fulfilled enough true ending conditions that she has the extra phase so it doesn't count

[gaunt marten]

It's easier with the sound on

[slim thorn]

let's see if unequipping the true ending heart is enough to prevent that

[gaunt marten]

Does the randomizer let you remove it?

[slim thorn]

yep

[gaunt marten]

Then that seems sound

[fresh bane]

I couldn't in good faith not do the extra phase to save Crisanta

[slim thorn]

looks like that did the trick, just beat her again and she stayed down

but yes I'm sparing her life

[gaunt marten]

You can't kill her if you tried

[slim thorn]

not right now, probably

these are any ending runs for a reason

fortunately the pope is no Crisanta

[gaunt marten]

Pope phase 1 is a much easier and more fun fight than Crisanta

Phase 2 is not fun but you can skip it by storing like six deblas of light

(with the true guilt rosary bead converting your bottles from health to fervor, and with a prayer damage build)