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white phoenix
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at 1080p?

thorny loom
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Tv mode yes

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Handheld is 720

white phoenix
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I meant on the ps2

thorny loom
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On Original hardware its about 480p

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But you can get 1080p 60fps if you use pcsx2

fresh bane
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Of course it wasn't 1080p on the PS2 it was 480p, it's not like these remasters completely overhaul the games to such a degree that it justifies dropping down half the performance of the original hardware

slim thorn
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so about emulators

quiet swift
thorny loom
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Its relatively minor. But even the switch should be able to do it with how much upgraded hardware it has compared to a ps2

thorny loom
slim thorn
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oh just being snarky

thorny loom
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Oh lol.

fresh bane
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It's not like I care, I'm not supporting Konami again or even have a Switch, but it's still inexcusable and it lets me know this is still the same Konami that gave us the Silent Hill "HD collection" a decade ago

thorny loom
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Pfff

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At least knomai kept the source code this time

white phoenix
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mgs4:

fresh bane
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I already own MGS1 and 2 on PC so if I wanted to play I'd play them there, only problem is figuring out controls

thorny loom
fresh bane
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Good thing nobody sniffed glue in the offices that day and threw away the original HD collection of MGS for the PS3

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This is basically just that

white phoenix
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I was just joking about how they still haven't ported it over yet

thorny loom
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Good thing they also chose the mgs1 original

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And not the broken hd gamecube port

fresh bane
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They're gonna include Twin Snakes on the second volume I'm sure

thorny loom
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That would be funny

fresh bane
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And maybe MGS Peace Walker if they're feeling like it

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I don't see them porting Portable Ops or the Acid games even though I would like them to

river veldt
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Portable Ops ?

fresh bane
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MGS3 sequel for the PSP

harsh kestrel
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Okay, yeah, sorry Unity, but you guys already dug your grave. For one, you have one of the greediest CEOs to ever walk through the doors of a gaming company headquarters, and for two, you guys basically already killed your reputation by doing what you did. Damage control and trying to soften the blow of the fee isn't gonna do anything. The fee never should have been a thing to begin with. Even if it's not as strict, it's still there. That's the worst part. It shouldn't be there. They should have just gotten rid of it. That would have had a higher chance of them actually recovering in comparison to this

thorny loom
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Yeah unity will become less relevant over the years as devs abandon it for others such as unreal

mossy flume
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This was being discussed in #science-and-tech

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I'm very curious about what they have to say in the fireside chat in half an hour

rose rose
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The fee itself is now entirely reasonable

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It's just a trust problem

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And to be honest I suspect that the deep investment that people have made in their product makes it a recoverable one.

mossy flume
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I concur

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The bigger unknown is whether new developers can trust Unity sufficiently to marry their projects to them or not.

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Honestly I'm not sure about that.

slim thorn
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yep, the biggest impact of this is going to be the long tail of future projects not choosing Unity to begin with

mossy flume
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Personally I would very much like to use Unity because they're the most approachable option.

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I'm just not sure I can trust them to not pull the rug out from under me.

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(This boldly assumes that I'll ever actually build something to the point where I actually care, but putting that aside)

slim thorn
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I already had my phase of twiddling with game-like code in my spare time and quickly realized I have no skill or interest at the non-code parts of game development

mossy flume
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Well at least I'm now confident that this runtime fee would never apply to any project I would ever make

teal cliff
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Frankly, on an unrelated note

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I just think Unreal's a better engine

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like, trust and monetization aside

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I just like using Unreal way more.

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even on very basic levels like UI and controls, it just feels better

wind stump
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unrelated: friend is going through Ace Attorney trilogy KoishiThonk

visual hill
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they played us like a damn fiddle!!

quiet swift
wind stump
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SHUT

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IT'S ACE ATTORNEY

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EVERYTHING IS PUNS

mossy flume
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Unreal is a somewhat odd option for 2D games, at least.

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2D tooling in UE is kinda lackluster

thorny loom
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Anything works if you push it hard enough

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Also arn’t you supposed to be making me a dinosaur model ma

mossy flume
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It definitely works, but it’s a prettt 3D heavy engine and it may be a bit overkill for the use case

slim thorn
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I wouldn't take that response as a serious objection lol

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writing your own engine from scratch also "works"

thorny loom
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“It just works”

slim thorn
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eventually

thorny loom
astral steeple
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I've messed around with ue4 a bit

All I know how to do is import a 3d model as a level and give it collision so you can walk around in it though lol

mossy flume
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Making your own engine is too difficult SadBat

astral steeple
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I gotta get a new pc at some point with much more space and better specs and stuff so I can fully jump into it

slim thorn
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ironically I know enough of the technical aspects that I probably could write a special-purpose engine if I wanted to

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but that's like saying I could read every Batman comic ever written if I wanted to

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it's not about difficulty, it's about having finite time on this Earth

mossy flume
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Mhmm. I understand the basic principles at a high level, but I don't have the patience for that sort of time and effort investment.

slim thorn
visual hill
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making your engine is a good learning exercise, but don't do it for production

slim thorn
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yup

visual hill
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(well, maybe do it for production if you're making a 4D game… and end up like Miegakure)

astral steeple
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Ngl the most I know coding wise is making a simple yes or no pop up using visualbasic in notepad lol

visual hill
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I mentioned Miegakure during an university presentation in 2019, it's still not out

slim thorn
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ah, "fully" 4D as opposed to... I guess what most of my puzzle games do you could call "3D with discontinuities"?

visual hill
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yeah

graceful bridge
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@little badger Got it, and some extra achievements to boot

astral steeple
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yooooooooo

thorny loom
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Car insurance

fickle garnet
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Ed Sheeran's not that good tbh

gaunt marten
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iHeart is nice though

astral steeple
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kinda hoping theyll give him a skin in game as well

quiet swift
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@slim thorn Aaargh. Exploring most of upper part of ||Quarry|| in Tunic. Trying to head to what I think is the bottom but there's so god damn many mobs. Place is super frustrating.

slim thorn
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did you find the important thingy in the upper part?

quiet swift
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Uhhhh. ||Unless you mean a rope shortcut, no? ppenk ||

slim thorn
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welp

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you definitely don't want to do the bottom without the thingy

quiet swift
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i don't even know what I missed

slim thorn
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there should be a building you can enter

quiet swift
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I did do that yes. ||And the back door leads to the rope shortcut||. Was there something inside?

slim thorn
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did you open every chest in there?

quiet swift
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There was only a single one to open. All others were already opened

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And the one only had a ||fox figurine thing? I think?||

slim thorn
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you're supposed to find this:

quiet swift
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Oh, that, yes

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Right, now I realize what it is ppenk

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(I kinda almost forgot about that mechanic after setting up two of them)

mossy flume
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Looks like a Volus from Mass Effect rdwut

slim thorn
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cool, you should be fine with that

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I always think the same thing

quiet swift
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Oh my god it does wheeze

slim thorn
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you are now required to post a screenshot of your fox wearing it

thorny loom
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Big oof

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Thats what happens when you make your game online only even for solo play

rose rose
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It was mostly positive when I looked. Guess the review bombers hadn't noticed it yet.

sour hill
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There's no good reason for payday to rely on a server

sour hill
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I imagine any non-negative reviews were people with early access

fresh bane
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El Blásfemo ™️ update
Got all sörd upgrades, gave || the fourth visage both eyes of the traitor I got last time ||, and got the item and skin after giving 100k to the church starlightgrin

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Now I think I'm all ready to finish up

gaunt marten
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Nice work

fresh bane
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I went back to my Souls roots and found a farm route by looking at the tears enemies drop, I pretty much did this little route for farming with the mea culpa heart for more tears and the prayer for more tears, nets you a little over 1k tears for every time you go through so it takes a bit to get to 10k and above but it literally takes like a little over 5 min it's just very repetitive but that's farming for you

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Still don't have 100% completion on the map or the entire game process looking at my save file so maybe I still have to look for all the remaining bones I haven't gotten yet ajwhomstdve and I didn't buy all the items from Candelaria but I'm not super worried about either

slim thorn
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I always get stuck at 99% map completion

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there's a number of rooms where it's awkward to get the last square map tile even though nothing of interest, or literally nothing at all, is in that tile

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so I just ignore that

fresh bane
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I'm pretty sure I got every single tile in the game other than the final one...

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There's this room now that I think about it but there's nothing there

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Oh, I also got all cherubs

slim thorn
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oh yeah, there are a few rooms related to that one you're looking at which can only be opened in NG+ mode

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I never thought about whether the map% counts those on a first playthrough but I guess it must for you to be at only 96%

river veldt
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metroid omg

astral steeple
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oh so they do have normal spawn as well

fickle garnet
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I like both versions of the spawn skin tbh

fresh bane
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oof I'm only missing 3 bones rdsnrk I guess I could go do that real quick...

river veldt
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Spawn is voiced by Keith David i think

mossy flume
slim thorn
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I should get back to my Tunic and Blasphemous solo randos, but I'm still in the middle of a NieR quest

fickle garnet
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I wanna play NeiR

fresh bane
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that is so not worth it lol the skin isn't that great, luckily I came across 98% of all these collectables during regular gameplay and I only had to actually go back and find these last few

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I really should've used markers...

slim thorn
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this is the game that taught me the importance of using custom map markers when the game provides them

fresh bane
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he is one with the bones now

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I had put way too much trust in my ability to remember the stuff that I found that I couldn't get to and ''I'll get to it later when I get the necessary skill'' or something rdsnrk

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Hmmm... I really really love this skin but I'd be down for using another skin for this last part of the game, but which one... ppinkiethonkers

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this one reminds me of Link's blue tunic from albw rdsnrk could go for this one

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ooh my attacks are red now that I equipped the true heart of mea culpa izzyooh

slim thorn
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huh, I forgot about that

fresh bane
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time to wrap up now pipppipphooray

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okay.... you look cool

slim thorn
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her cone hat is taller than yours

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this cannot stand

fresh bane
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she must pay flutterwaaaugh

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how dare you have a hat taller than mine

thorny loom
fresh bane
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Oh no she's having a main character moment

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Uh oh

slim thorn
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oops, you unlocked the true ending, enjoy your third phase sweetiedumbfabric

fresh bane
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well I didn't know that was gonna do that

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I'm the main character that's not fair

gaunt marten
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Remember to parry

slim thorn
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~~why would we warn you cozynotevil ~~

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more seriously, if you can do phases 1 and 2, the 3rd shouldn't be a problem

fresh bane
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Wait there's a third? opaLOLine

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I'm dying immediately at the second phase

slim thorn
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oh THAT main character moment

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well

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have fun derpyfacewing

fresh bane
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she even gets a music swell and everything she's too cool to be left alive flutterwaaaugh

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I love that this is basically following the same formula of character action games where the final (?) boss is literally just you and can do the things you can do too

slim thorn
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and also teleport

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because she's cooler than us

fresh bane
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I want a teleport....

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man it's a good thing I still get the souls everytime I do phase 1

slim thorn
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I do appreciate that even if you die multiple times, you leave multiple guilt markers; none of them get erased until you collect them (or use a confessor statue)

fresh bane
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Yeah I appreciate that a lot, sure would've made the experience much nicer in Souls if it worked like that too

slim thorn
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not least because in my current solo rando I've been forced to leave two guilt markers behind

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I'll be back

fresh bane
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man I wonder if I just need to git gud or if I'm somehow underpowered or have the wrong beads rdwut

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she's beating the fuck out of me

slim thorn
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Crisanta is one of those fights that's super consistent once you git gud but tears you to shreds if you just do random stuff

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just staying put, parrying and countering deals with a lot of her moveset

fresh bane
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Yeah I keep losing my cool and falling for stuff I already know very well how to defend against starlightexhausted

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and I only got 3 flasks too (mind you, nearly full heal with full max hp but still)

slim thorn
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I tend to hang on to one or two quicksilvers personally

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at least now that I'm not trying to complete that sidequest

fresh bane
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I keep wanting to squeeze in a Debla here and there but I can't seem to find a proper opening for it without eating an attack or her flying away

slim thorn
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yeah she never hangs around in the air long enough

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some of the horizontal prayers can work when she's standing still to catch her breath but I don't know if it's worth it, last time I fought her I was so focused on nailing the parry rhythm I forgot to even try

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Tiento would be interesting

fresh bane
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I'm mostly talking about the first phase

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The second phase I'm still not deep into it enough to even know what it's about and what I need to look out for or do

slim thorn
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parry for dear life flutterwaaaugh

fresh bane
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It's what I'm thinking of but... is the entire phase just parrying? rdwut

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I get zero openings at all, when I parry I go too far back to run up to her

slim thorn
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well not literally lol

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but she does have long periods of being impossible to safely hit

river veldt
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waow DDLC is six years old today

white phoenix
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honestly thought it was older than that

quartz pawn
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I just bought the pokermans violent dlc

static bluff
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Took awhile but I finally got to S rank.

flint iron
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I get discombobulated and destroyed in that game every match

flint iron
quartz pawn
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ddlc is old enough to go to school.

white phoenix
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ddlc had a physical release??

flint iron
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Yeh

white phoenix
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ddlc is one of the things I haven't looked up anything at all to avoid spoilers until I get around to finally playing it

flint iron
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I recommend getting the physical game if you ever get around playing it because it comes with cardboard standees

white phoenix
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goddamnit, it's only on console isn't it
that's like the one thing consoles have over pc: most of the time, there's a collectors edition you can't get if you're just getting a digital version

flint iron
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From what I know, unfortunately yeah. Ddlc plus is on steam but it doesn't come with all of the extra stuff

slim thorn
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good thing I don't care about physical stuff rdwut

flint iron
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I love physical games but it can backfire once the disc evaporates into dust or it gets slashed by raiden from metal gear rising

river veldt
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it's a really really good game

white phoenix
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Yeah I've heard

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I do this for any game I hear is really good

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I did this for persona 5 and went in 100% completely blind and absolutely had the experience of a lifetime

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definitely doing this with other games I hear are masterpieces in the future

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I'm also refraining from searching anything up for certain movies too

slim thorn
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I only look up plot stuff for games that I would never play because they're in a genre I can't enjoy, and even that is pretty rare

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DDLC is definitely on my "hopefully someday" list so I'll continue to avoid spoilers

flint iron
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Spoilers find me no matter where I hide

white phoenix
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the thing about spoilers is that if you don't care about something and you read the plot anyway you'll forget about it within a day

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but if you suddenly do care about it then you're spoiled

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the trick is to make google and co think that you're not interested in it at all by not searching it up so that they don't recommend you stuff from it

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like all I knew about persona 5 was the title, the song "life will change," and joker, that's it lol

river veldt
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DDLC is definitely a game that benefits from knowing little to nothing about it

flint iron
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Yeh

slim thorn
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although right now I've got NieR fulfilling my "games that mess with your head" itch

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||the loading screen is talking to me ponee||

thorny loom
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Just Monika

river veldt
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i watched Jacksepticeye play DDLC for the first time because i didn't have a computer back then

fresh bane
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I...... won? trixienervous

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I guess I defeated her so hard I didn't even need to kill her

slim thorn
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congrats

fresh bane
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that was only 2 phases though ajwhomstdve

slim thorn
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hm

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well let's worry about that after you get an ending

flint iron
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Waiting for a game that will randomly add another phase to the final boss in the middle of the credits rolling

fresh bane
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apparently that was the third phase, the second one is when her sword changes

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and apparently I'm not the only one that was kind of angry at the fight rdsnrk I got the hang of it but I still think it's pretty tough how little time there is to do stuff

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cheevo pipppipphooray

slim thorn
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well, in that case you should like the next one more

fresh bane
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and who are you old man tiarachins

thorny loom
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Damn

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Muta being really harsh

white phoenix
fresh bane
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summa blasphemia flutteryay

slim thorn
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good job, you killed the pope rdwut

fresh bane
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Awesome sweetiedumbfabric

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and of course the narrator guy is here too

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|| ending b? || ajwhomstdve

slim thorn
fresh bane
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That's it? starlightphyllisno

slim thorn
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for this ending

fresh bane
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Oh oh post credits cutscene starlightpopcorn

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Oh nevermind starlightohcomeon

slim thorn
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one of my few complaints with this game is that how to get the other ending is basically "look up a walkthrough"; it's not something you could plausibly figure out naturally like Hollow Knight's or Tunic's true endings

fresh bane
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damn, awesome, and edgy

slim thorn
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the added-in-DLC ending is better about that

fresh bane
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Ooooooohhhhh nooooo waaaayyyy

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I just looked up the requirements for ending c and it's totally what I did starlightohcomeon

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I went back to the brotherhood because Crisanta said something about going back to where I took my first steps but I didn't see her so I assumed there was nothing there and I was overthinking it

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God dammit

slim thorn
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yeah, you've already done most of the ending C requirements

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probably whatever you need to unlock ending A is also what's left to unlock C

fresh bane
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I didn't do the statue thingy

slim thorn
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and didn't get Weight of True Guilt?

fresh bane
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Oooh but I can continue from a last save pippwhoa

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fuck it, I'll do it now

slim thorn
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yeah, once you know it's not hard at all

fresh bane
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there you are!

slim thorn
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I simply never tried equipping that particular bead so I never had a chance to bungle into the multiple steps to open those arenas

fresh bane
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Uuuuuh if you mean the pearly thingy I did equip that once in this brotherhood area and initially I thought if you died in this area you didn't accumulate guilt but once I looked in my menu I noticed it changed into being a little bit tainted or something so I unequipped it and never used it again now that it told me it absorbs guilt rdsnrk

slim thorn
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yep, that's one of the secret ending mechanics, you want to fully tarnish that bead

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still, you got closer than I did

fresh bane
slim thorn
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I think I equipped it once because I suspected it had some secret purpose the flavor text was refusing to tell me, but "nothing happened" and I gave up on it

fresh bane
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This is literally the only thing left I had to do to get ending C I'm so mad opaLOLine

slim thorn
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nice

fresh bane
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I like that Crisanta isn't mad at me anymore I like Crisanta flutternatureissofascinating

slim thorn
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well to be honest I think it's good to see ending B before the others

fresh bane
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I guess so, I'm going to assume that's the bad ending rdsnrk

slim thorn
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it's difficult to judge goodness and badness of these endings

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but probably yes

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it's certainly the one where you change the least

fresh bane
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I'm assuming that's what it is because Escribar said something about how I'm not the only one that died right there or something like that? So I pretty much became another anonymous penitent of the bunch starlightohcomeon

slim thorn
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you mean Deogracias?

fresh bane
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derp, yeah that one

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I'm still thinking about the pope

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So.... now I need to do the confession statues thingy... twirules

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Oh dope I have 99% completion of the map now sunnypog

slim thorn
fresh bane
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Of course rdwut I assumed there was so much lore hidden in these descriptions because they're waaaay longer than a Dark Souls item and they tell a story rather than just describing an item

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But my attention span isn't enough to read them so I never did

slim thorn
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me neither

fresh bane
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That sounds a lot like the B ending

slim thorn
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yup

fresh bane
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alright then

gaunt marten
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Why do you only have three bile flasks?

fresh bane
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Because I upgraded to the max

river veldt
gaunt marten
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You should have four

white phoenix
fresh bane
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Uuuuuuh I may have missed one flask then

gaunt marten
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I think the one you're missing is on the library of negated words at the bottom of a tall room with a librarian at the right and a door at the left

fresh bane
gaunt marten
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Jump attack down the center for a hidden wall

slim thorn
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that is the easiest one to miss

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I think most people who find it on their own break the floor by accident

gaunt marten
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That's what happened to me

fresh bane
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one of these rooms?

gaunt marten
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Yes one of the three long vertical sections that have a door to the left at the very bottom

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I play the game at a very low volume so the secret wall noise relic does nothing for me

fresh bane
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you mean this?

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cause I already got this one

gaunt marten
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Yes

fresh bane
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I got it

gaunt marten
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Oh

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Weird you didn't get this one

fresh bane
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It was behind a hidden wall that I never would've assumed was there rdwut

river veldt
white phoenix
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I mean, yeah

gaunt marten
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But there's a breakable candleabra next to the wall

white phoenix
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that doesn't mean the lows haven't been very low

gaunt marten
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You have to break every candelabra because it's fun

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Especially ones suspiciously close to the wall

slim thorn
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I think I was breaking candles more consistently in my original run than in any later playthrough

fresh bane
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I never really thought about it before even though I did notice some breakable objects near hidden stuff, I guess I was too early into the game to really be actively looking out for that and I never bothered to go back to this specific dungeon

slim thorn
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especially with the beads that give you more tears or fervour on smashing

gaunt marten
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It is early

gaunt marten
river veldt
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yeah you break candles to get stuff likes hearts or crosses or holy water or knives

gaunt marten
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No that's in Curse of the Moon

slim thorn
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and late game you have far more tears than you can spend anyway ppenk

river veldt
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no that's in Castlevania

fresh bane
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Yeah early game you get a bead that gives you tears and later mana for breaking stuff which I did kind of use until I got better ones

gaunt marten
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Curse of the Moon is a Castlevania game

river veldt
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googles

gaunt marten
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Made by the Castlevania guy

river veldt
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sorry i only play Castlevania games with Simon

gaunt marten
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He broke up with the company that holds the intellectual rights to Castlevania

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And then made his own games

flint iron
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Castlevania and bloodstained has awesome ost

river veldt
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probablt because Konami sucks

slim thorn
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There’s also an actual Castlevania called Circle of the Moon to further confuse things

fresh bane
slim thorn
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pretty sure that was before the DS

river veldt
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oh it was GBA

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i was thinking of Dawn of Sorrow

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the one with the worst box art ever

flint iron
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That isn't that bad

slim thorn
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I had no complaints back when I bought and played it

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But now that I know the series better, I get people being underwhelmed by this after Aria’s art

gaunt marten
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Favorite Blasphemous hearts: +20% damage, +damage but less defense, +100% prayer damage, healing on kills, righteous riposte window heart

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(righteous riposte deals more damage than a regular one and lets you execute)

river veldt
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where it has the original box inside the other box art

slim thorn
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oh

gaunt marten
slim thorn
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well that wasn’t there when I played it

river veldt
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he is my favourite

flint iron
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Wait I just realized the box art is a game case in the cover

gaunt marten
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But there's a lot of cute characters besides Simon

river veldt
gaunt marten
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I guess I'm just mad they called him Simon when he doesn't say anything.

river veldt
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at least it's not the Mega Man 1 american boxart

gaunt marten
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Old Kirby Box arts were great

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American Kirby is always inexplicably angry

flint iron
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I think that megaman is his own character in a fighting game

river veldt
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yes

flint iron
gaunt marten
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This Pikachu is determined but not angry

flint iron
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Oh yeah true

sonic dune
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Whoever's idea it was to put a mandatory race level where you have to get first place in the very start of Mafia
I don't like you

fresh bane
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lets gooooo

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crisanta assist

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god damn that's a cool frame

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I love that Crisanta straight up just squared up against... whatever this is rdsnrk

weak river
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Every time you post a screenshot from this game, I think I understand it less.

fresh bane
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lol well get ready for this

sonic dune
fresh bane
weak river
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...oh.

fresh bane
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Ah, I see, so that's how it is, I understand everything now.
doesn't understand anything

river veldt
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where are his clothes

weak river
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Well, that clarified pretty much everything. Thanks, Nire!

rugged flax
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you should activate Windows BatPolice

fresh bane
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I will never

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Alright, only took me 35.8 hours of total playtime to get the true ending and almost 100% completion sunnypog good game 10/10 recommend

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I love that it seems like the animated cutscenes use the skins I chose, in the penultimate cutscene which was incredibly animated || (where me and Crisanta cut up those big ol' faces) || Penitente has the blue outfit I got on, so that's pretty awesome flutternatureissofascinating

flint iron
# fresh bane

I will interpret this scene with the context I have.
The only way to get a taller helmet is to get higher towards the sky so that is what this person is doing. They will get in a sky cocoon to do Metamorphosis and become a beautiful long helmet person flutternatureissofascinating

fresh bane
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That's pretty much exactly what's going on raritydarling

sonic dune
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I finally beat the infamous race mission from Mafia

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I feel less of a sense of accomplishment

river veldt
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is that the one Jerma did

sonic dune
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And more a sense of "fucking finally"

sonic dune
river veldt
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uhhh

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idk but i rmeember him having to do a race in a parking gragae and just not being able to

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i cant find it

fresh bane
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pipppipphooray les gooo

dire gate
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The

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what

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how

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Finished the game without ever visiting the surface.

young creek
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the biggest hindrance here is no paraglider

arctic fern
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yeah i can totally see them finishing the game without the surface
you dont need the paraglider

bitter stream
slim thorn
# fresh bane

it's been so long since I saw this cutscene I forgot just how strongly it connects to the sequel

slim thorn
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I'm thinking today I should be able to get ending C in NieR, and then probably play my solo randos of Hat in Time and Blasphemous

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my Blasphemous rando start was a bit too mean, but after a round in each of the other games I should have enough stuff to break out of it

wind stump
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Oh.... OH NO.
These fuckers take one damage at a time when my deck is built around massive burst damage notLikeKogasa

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oh
even better

they heal 1 hp a turn
hitting one of them makes my mana colourless (since this game has coloured mana that's BAD for MY MOSTLY COLOURED DECK)

quiet swift
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@slim thorn ...Well. Not the type of things I was expecting to see in this zone in Tunic. ||Underground, deeeep underground|| ponee

slim thorn
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yup

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that bit is a perfect example of how Tunic is sort of somewhere in between a Zelda-like and a Souls-like

quiet swift
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Fuck those ||elemental spiders|| starlightrage

slim thorn
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each "bonfire" down there is a godsend

quiet swift
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...Holy crap that's a lot of the ||pillars||

bitter stream
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oh gosh HC, what are you playing?

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wait, i wasn't at the bottom of chat

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whoops

slim thorn
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I can't remember if this is a Touhou mod for Slay the Spire or a separate Touhou fangame or what

wind stump
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The latter.

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Do you think I have enough barrier yet?

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oh ok
just a casual
maths vaguely 168 damage?

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Yeah wow
That killed me, revived me with 50% health because of a relic
and then killed me again the same turn

this boss makes Heart look like a fuckin' joke

bitter stream
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oh neat! what's the name of this Touhou game?

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i have a friend who might get a kick out of it

dire gate
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It's called Slay the Spire

wind stump
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Touhou Lost Branch of Legend

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it's in Early Access but there's some nice stuff in the game already

dire gate
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Is it actually a different game or just a mod

wind stump
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It's a completely different game

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The Princess of the Moon, Kaguya Houraisan, held the Moon Manifestation exhibition was ransacked by thieves. It is time to move to solve the mutation and recover the precious exhibits of the moon.Lost Branch of Legend is a turn-based deck-building game that combines Rogue-like, collecting different cards and exhibits on the adventure.During the ...

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dire gate
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Oh, it looks almost identical to the touhou mod you played before

dire gate
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Honestly I'm pretty sure you can just show the screenshot to a random person and convince them that it is StS

slim thorn
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submit it to GuessTheGame and watch no one but us get it

bitter stream
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fair en ough thanks hc

fresh bane
fresh bane
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Will say the C ending feels a lot more satisfactory than the other two

slim thorn
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given how bizarre this all is I think it helps to see it

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I agree C feels best regardless, not least because it's such a direct connection to 2

slim thorn
mossy flume
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Took me a moment to realize you weren't talking about the C programming language.

peak berry
quiet swift
peak berry
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Wheel chair installation booster experiment fails

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But I was rewarded with this fantastic picture

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hehehe

mossy flume
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CCP Games is developing another EVE-connected FPS game. Same concept as DUST 514.

visual hill
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but all I wanted was Dust 2

mossy flume
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This is Dust 2

sage iris
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valve bring back Dust 2 FSWAAAAUGH

fresh bane
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Probably why I may not buy blasph 2 for the foreseeable future in case it also receives pretty significant updates like that

slim thorn
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reasonable, plus it's probably best to leave a bit of a gap or they might feel too samey

fresh bane
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Considering I may go for Metroid Fusion and/or Aria of Sorrow just to scratch one of them off the bucket list yes I think I'm all good on Blasphemous for now opaLOLine

slim thorn
#

it's not like the two NieR games where playing back to back dramatically improved my understanding of the stories

rugged flax
thorny loom
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Might as well reference this since Nintendo skipped it and went for ttyd.

thorny loom
peak berry
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.308 and .223

arctic fern
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Nice

little badger
slim thorn
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cool

little badger
little badger
# slim thorn cool

I’ve not played the second one but I have played the first is survivor good?

slim thorn
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yes

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they're similar enough in content and quality that if you like one you'll like the other

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probably the biggest difference is simply that Survivor's full moveset is a superset of Fallen Order's; it definitely assumes you've played FO and are ready to add more stuff to it

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e.g. Survivor adds a grappling hook to the metroidvania movement abilities, and in FO you have single blade, double blade, at the very end split saber but Survivor adds two new "stances" and has separate skill trees for all five stances

little badger
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Ooooh different stances. I’ve seen gameplay of it but I didn’t think I seen anyone do that.

slim thorn
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the crossguard stance (slow but high damage) is particularly effective on certain bosses

little badger
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I’ll be using the grapple hook a lot.

slim thorn
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I guess for completeness, my biggest complaints with Survivor that don't apply to Fallen Order are that a) you can only "equip" two stances at a time, I wish I could've swapped freely between all five to experiment more, and b) there's kind of an overwhelming amount of collect random stuff content, best to not obsess over getting all of it (remember the 10 seeds you could get in FO? that also got expanded but maybe it shouldn't have lol)

little badger
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I can see where you are coming from. If you’ve played Ghost of Tsushima you can change to any stance you want and they are all equipped.

slim thorn
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ah, nope, Tsushima looked too open world-y for me

little badger
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I would highly recommend it. You can fast travel from camps.

slim thorn
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I'm sure, every open world game has fast travel, that's not my issue with the genre lol

little badger
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Oh right.

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What don’t you like about some open world games?

slim thorn
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the first, biggest problem is that most of them devolve into "run toward the next map icon/waypoint for a few minutes" in between all the chunks of real content that's actually fun to play

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that they all have fast travel makes it only a few minutes each time, but it's still annoying, and in an older game with traditional "levels" you just don't waste time on that

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basically the only time I want a game to have a large open world in the modern sense (people sometimes confuse this with the tight interconnected non-linear labyrinths of metroidvanias) is when the movement itself is a fun part of the core gameplay loop, but that's not the case in most of these games

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"small open worlds" where it's dense enough you don't waste half the runtime running to waypoints can be great though, like A Short Hike, but "open world" as it's normally used in the industry implies space for space's sake

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the second problem is that when they try to make their needlessly huge worlds dense in content, they always end up with filler content or a good piece of content repeated too many times (and I have heard people specifically say Tsushima has this problem)

little badger
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Yeah some of Tsushima’s side stuff did feel a bit repetitive at times. I love open world games but I mostly explore the world first unless you need to do a quest first or if you can’t enter that area until you are a certain level.

slim thorn
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yeah, they've been a trend because people who aren't me seem to like them

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so I mostly just play other stuff

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(which is odd to say when I just finished NieR: Automata, but I was playing that for the story, and it absolutely has the standard "lots of time running to waypoints" problem even with fast travel)

little badger
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And I love the Assassin’s creed worlds but sometimes they use the same assets for some areas.

slim thorn
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I loved the first few ACs, but after effectively playing AC2 four times / finishing AC3 it was just too samey to hold my interest any more (especially since none of those games found a solution to the fundamental problem of being too easy and/or scripted to ever want to use most of your moveset/toolset)

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the worlds still look cool, but when that's all the game has, watching is better than playing

little badger
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It’s good that Mirage is going to where it started and I’ve heard it’s very short

visual hill
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reminds me of the Unreal 2 mod that makes movement twice as fast, and almost redeems the gameplay on its own

grave tide
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Fallen Order has fucked up difficulties

slim thorn
grave tide
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Grandmaster in Fallen Order and Grandmaster in Jedi Survivor are two different games

slim thorn
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oh, right, you play on high difficulties

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I do not

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neat, Blasphemous II just got its first big post-launch bugfix patch, and the only bug I remember seeing in my playthrough is in the list

slim thorn
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that might be the single most useless hint I've ever received opaLOLine

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(but seriously it probably means one of the few rooms in the game that needs a key to access)

slim thorn
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...that was definitely not the intended way to earn a speedrunning achievement ppenk

gaunt marten
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Did you not beat the three bosses?

slim thorn
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I did random start location, which came out as rooftops, so I've been going backwards mostly

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I assume the achivement just checks when you arrive in this room, considering I entered from the east

gaunt marten
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That's how it works

slim thorn
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ah, the joys of enemy rando

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it took me... 2:33 to reach Albero

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less than I was expecting tbh

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still haven't found my dash, but barely beat Ten Piedad without it on the first try

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and it looks like putting all my bosses in priority_locations is having the desired effect

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that's the only boss I can actually get to so perfect end to that session

slim thorn
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wow that's mean

gaunt marten
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It's okay, just don't dash

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The ranged blood attack is actually pretty good DPS and relatively safe

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Can be used for most bosses

slim thorn
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I am pretty bad at remembering that exists

gaunt marten
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You learn to use it when you do the blue NG+ penitance

slim thorn
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I think when I originally enabled this I was hoping it'd force me to parry more often, which is sort of true, but I think when combined with enemy rando there's too many situations where parry is a bad idea anyway; I end up slashing and hopping away as my default loop

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yeah mana regen makes that ranged attack unlimited so it can replace the melee

gaunt marten
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Did you know about righteous ripostes?

slim thorn
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I don't think so

gaunt marten
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When you parry, hit the attack button the moment your sword touches the enemy

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You instantly execute them

slim thorn
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ah, ok

gaunt marten
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If you do it five times successfully across any number of runs you get an achievement

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There's a heart that makes parries harder but righteous ripostes much easier

slim thorn
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I'm guessing you checked I don't have that achievement rdsnrk

gaunt marten
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No, I didn't

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But I only learned about righteous ripostes by getting it

slim thorn
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sweet, just found my Pages 24-25 ||(Prayer)||, which means switching back to Tunic

slim thorn
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hm, can I fight the birb without any ranged weapons or a shield

quiet swift
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Oh, without shield? That's tougher ppenk

slim thorn
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oh and still no health flasks

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I am so glad I did start_with_sword: true lol

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getting the chest was easy at least

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I got it below half, we're doing this again

fresh bane
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Oh I don't like that magic/hp meter rdsnrk

slim thorn
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oh that's a stamina meter

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I don't get a magic bar until I have a magic weapon

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anyway, nailed it

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(in vanilla you'd normally have a shield and magic by the time you got here)

fresh bane
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I feel like I'd have a hard time gauging the values in those meters since it's isometric and three dimensional like the game

slim thorn
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they also have little notches at certain regular intervals

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I believe each of these started at two ?s before the upgrades I've found so far

flint iron
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It's an aesthetically nice hud tho

slim thorn
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this also isn't a game where precise numerical values are all that important

fresh bane
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what little there is of it anyway rdsnrk it reminds me of Ocarina of Time's or Link's Awakening's mostly minimalist huds

mossy flume
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Everything about the game is aesthetically awesome

slim thorn
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it's much more Zelda than it is an RPG

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which is part of the reason it randomizes so well

quiet swift
fresh bane
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Oh I'm not talking about numerical values precisely it would just mess me up because I wouldn't be able to fully tell when I'm topped off or how much health I'm missing because I'm stoopid and I like my flat 2D huds

slim thorn
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also this is the shiniest chest I have ever seen but such a troll that I can't get to it right now

fresh bane
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Hell I kinda actually liked the singular health values on the arcade minigame in Blasphemous

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reminds me of hearts in Zelda rather than just the one bar

gaunt marten
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Play NG+

slim thorn
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oh you'll love NG+ Penitence of the Bleeding Heart then rdwut

fresh bane
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I don't know what that is but I doubt I'll be doing NG+ on Blasphemous I think I've had my fill starlightwheeze

slim thorn
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totally fair

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I "only" did one NG+ run, and mostly so I could see the DLC NG+ bosses

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I think Flitter did all three of the NG+ Penitences?

gaunt marten
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Yes

slim thorn
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basically at the start of an NG+ run you can pick one of three special modes that change how health/magic/etc work in ways that are intended to make the game harder but also play very differently

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like the one that makes fervour regenerate over time, but your flasks heal fervour instead of health

gaunt marten
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That one was the hardest

slim thorn
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Frog's Domain is probably a terrible idea without a shield but I've got 3 Attack maybe I can cheese it

quiet swift
slim thorn
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well, the tracker claims I can get most of the checks in here

fresh bane
gaunt marten
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NG+ in Blasphemous has four extra optional bosses

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The four Amanecidas

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With extra related cutscenes

fresh bane
slim thorn
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oh no the three NG+ penitences would all be a terrible idea for a first time player lol

fresh bane
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DS3 has this where you can choose to swap some estus flasks for mana flasks instead and considering how little fervor I usually get from my attacks and that it doesn't regenerate that would've been useful

fresh bane
slim thorn
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they're a side story, but, yes

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I mean there's also the whole second game to do ppenk

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up to you

fresh bane
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I'm guessing it's the room that was empty and had nothing on it with the mirror

slim thorn
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that room is part of it yes

fresh bane
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Yeah but the second game may get content updates in the future ajwhomstdve

slim thorn
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though it's not where you start

gaunt marten
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If you beat each penitance you get a rosary bead. One makes you slowly heal HP after using a bile flask, one makes you slowly heal fervor, and one makes your bile flasks heal fervor instead of health

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You can keep those for future runs, so NG+1 is the hardest

slim thorn
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unironically using stealth here because I don't think I can fight all the frogs feels so weird

fresh bane
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By NG+2 I'd imagine one would be decked out so much and already have sufficient skills that it'd feel like a breeze to go through

slim thorn
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this is fine, I'm completely safe

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wow, now that I'm actually pushing the limits of the frogs' detection logic, it turns out they have no peripheral vision

rose rose
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Makes sense with those hoods

slim thorn
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good point

fresh bane
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It would be really funny if they were actually programmed with a narrow cone of vision because of the hoods rdsnrk

rose rose
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My general impression of the level of detail and care in Tunic is that that's exactly what I'd expect to happen

slim thorn
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ok, this last room might not be worth it

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in vanilla that's a super critical item, but here it's just an MP berry, so not worth fighting 10+ enemies with my current lack of gear

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gah, took me several minutes to re-discover this hidden passage

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I'm 90% sure in my original playthrough I found this passage in my first few hours and then couldn't figure out how to reach the rest of the region until much later in the game

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and now I'm finding bonus hidden passages all over this area I don't think I ever used in vanilla

dense crypt
#

Finished Final Fantasy 5 last night

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What a great fuckin game it was

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Finished with a Ninja, a Summoner, a Blue Mage, and a Chemist

slim thorn
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for "bombable walls", does anything besides firecrackers work? (I just wasted a "fire bomb")

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oops wrong server

unreal idol
hasty patio
light gate
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its beautiful

river veldt
#

it's beautiful i agree Deviant

dire gate
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Hideki Kamiya, most known for Bayonetta series, is leaving Platinum Games

fresh bane
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Whaaaa

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That's actually wild

bleak lintel
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He seems to like the culture of small studios.

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Maybe he’s off to make another one,

little badger
quiet swift
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I think i'll start a new game of that once i finish tunic

random steppe
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I was very much a hater and I think I'm gonna buy the expansion on release, that's how much the 2.0 got me

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Well not on release, probably gonna wait a couple of days...

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Just to make sure it works, once bitten..

quiet swift
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I already got it but I'll wait a bit before starting, yeah rdsnrk

little badger
gaunt marten
wind stump
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But why

gaunt marten
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It cost money

thorny loom
#

Last chance for 40k space wolf before its delisted from steam

gaunt marten
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I wouldn't buy it because I don't want future developers to learn this can be used to get a final boost in sale before they cut down on maintenance costs

mossy flume
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I already started a new Cyberpunk save. The game performs better now than it did at launch. pippwiggle

gaunt marten
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Nice

random steppe
mossy flume
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That has definitely been improved, yep

quiet swift
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What about the netware stuff? I heard that got overhauled too

mossy flume
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The implants system did indeed get overhauled and seems easier to understand IMO.

random steppe
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No idea, since this is the first time I played since watching Edgerunner, i installed a Sandevistan the first chance I got and never looked back

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But that means I can't hack

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The cyberware is pretty damn great, I think a good chunk of them were here on release, but they are all been rebalanced and a lot of new ones are there

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Also now armor and stats have almost all been offloaded to the cyberware system

mossy flume
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The skill tree was totally redone too

random steppe
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Yeah, I didn't play enough to have a strong feeling about the skill system before but I really like it now

mossy flume
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Same roots, but the perks are all different now

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And yeah they rebalanced everything I think

random steppe
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I have been enjoying myself a lot, before the writing was excellent but it was marred by the fact that you had to play Cyberpunk to experience it, now it's actually fun.

mossy flume
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Agreed

random steppe
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I just go and do random encounters because I can, for no reason

mossy flume
#

I can’t quite point my finger onto why, which I feel like is a failing on my part, but the experience feels so much better

random steppe
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I think it's because it's not one thing that makes the game better now

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But a vaeity of improvements that don't have you go "this shit again" every 5 minutes

mossy flume
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The crowd density in the city appears to have been cranked up a notch too, which makes it feel a bit more natural

random steppe
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The weapons make more sense, the gear makes more sense, the skills and vehicles feel better, the cyberware makes a LOT more sense
You aren't assalted by the "well, this isn't ideal" feeling with every system you interact with like before

mossy flume
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Yeah, that I can agree with

wind stump
#

HMMMMMMM
y'all are tempting me into poor financial descions

mossy flume
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I did notice that I wasn’t overwhelmed by the weapons anymore

random steppe
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It's not perfect, traffic is still pretty dumb, there are still some bugs, some systems are a bit fiddly and some things aren't super clear, but it's FAR better

wind stump
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I'll wait for a 50% sale

mossy flume
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And yes, it’s not just raining loot to the point of immediately filling your inventory either. That was rebalanced.

random steppe
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I like how they did the weapons, instead of rarity the colors is the tier of the weapons

mossy flume
#

Not nearly so much garbage.

random steppe
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Works perfectly

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Color coded for tier, and there is still some randomisation, like some mods they come with that you can't install yourself, but it's not diablo loot anymore

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Which made zero sense in a cyberpunk settings, weapons are mass produced, why do they have randomised effects?

quiet swift
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I went with a sniper/assault rifle build last time, if I recall ppenk

wind stump
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I was just thinking "It'd be nice if this game had achievements"

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Oh good, suffering. KoishiThonk (Resolving the incident perfectly refers to beating Act 4)

little badger
mossy flume
little badger
light gate
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The hell does it mean by 'all Sony systems'?

mossy flume
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Unclear.

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Presumably they intend to say the entirety of the internal Sony network

gaunt marten
light gate
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Atrus: "Did you bring the mushroom?"

green fulcrum
#

I can't wait for the Riven remaster.

quartz pawn
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I still want to buy Myst 1 on VR.

rancid herald
wind stump
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Hmm, Ender Lillies is half off

gaunt marten
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Could be three quarters

fresh bane
#

I can't find any reasons given yet for why he's leaving, I wonder if maybe there were differences between him and other members of the team, I read a comment that said something about Kamiya lying about a 'no intervention' rule during development which caused a lot of back and forths which the director of Bayo 3 talks about in the official PG blogs, but I couldn't find it twirules

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a lot of people are acting like this is equal to Kojima and Konami parting ways but honestly I think without Kamiya Bayo may be even better lol, the dude had some crazy stuff planned for the franchise and not the genius crazy but the 'you're actually insane' crazy
I actually feel like Bayo may recover from the mess that was Bayo 3 if he's not involved ajlie

bleak lintel
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I don't think it is that strange, when the studio is small he has greater influnce, as a studio grows in size he loses that. Platinum reached the point where he wants to do something but can't so he's moving on.

quiet swift
mossy flume
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F

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Presumably cancelling isn't necessary though

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Nothing says they can't stay on the 2023 LTS build and not have to deal with the fee at all.

quiet swift
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@slim thorn Tunic: the ||scavenger boss|| was pretty annoying. Couldn't get him by being careful, he just moved too much. ||So I loaded the gun and chugged mana berries and shot him to death dracthyr_hehe_animated ||

slim thorn
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I'm okay at that boss if I go in with enough upgrades and equipment and don't get too greedy; he kills me very quickly if I get lazy

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personally it's the Siege Engine I have the most trouble with

rose rose
slim thorn
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though my current rando has yet to allow me to fight any of the bosses so we'll see how that goes rdwut

quiet swift
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I did get him to... 30% just one time but otherwise kept making mistakes and didn't get him down fast enough. I think I'm at like level 4 upgrades at the moment. ||Beaten siege engine, librarian, scavenger and garden knight||

mossy flume
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I think we might need a #1155938111407276173 thread

gaunt marten
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But then I wouldn't hear about Tunic anymore

mossy flume
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You could join the Tunic thread

gaunt marten
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I don't like talking about it because I don't yet have it

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I just like seeing it as I browse #1032716748887179434

slim thorn
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Blasphemous and Tunic have both felt borderline lately but since not-me was doing their first playthrough I figured I'd leave it up to them whether to make a thread

mossy flume
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I've kinda picked it up again in another attempt to actually play the darn game

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Made some progress

slim thorn
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I shall ask for more in the thread

thorny loom
mossy flume
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it is rather odd that it was cancelled.

bleak lintel
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Not sure why the eye rolls, it was a major part of the advertisement.

wind stump
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mon deiu

green fulcrum
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Sacre bleu

gaunt marten
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This character's French accent is charming but feels a bit hammy

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Is it insensitive or just good?

green fulcrum
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Voiced, or just text? Because if it's text, it's not that bad, at least from this one screenshot.

gaunt marten
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Just text

wind stump
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He says a lot of French though
It's charming, it's just very apparent he's French. KoishiThonk

gaunt marten
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She

wind stump
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... THAT'S A GIRL?

gaunt marten
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She's called Emilie

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She has boobs

fresh bane
gaunt marten
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To be fair you could easily read Emilie as Emile.

fresh bane
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I've never heard of the name Emile before but I definitely have heard Emilie and recognize it as mostly french because the english version would probably be Emily

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...not that I even know what's being discussed or who the characters are but still rdsnrk

fresh bane
slim thorn
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meanwhile I've been playing games with an "Emil" lately so both of them look like they have extra letters to me

gaunt marten
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Yes she's the orange character and she likes to beat things up

river veldt
fresh bane
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I like her already

wind stump
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cow talk

fresh bane
wind stump
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YES
GIVE ME THE FISHING
RIGHT NOW

gaunt marten
fresh bane
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cute redhead with freckles that enjoys beating things up and likes cows spiketakeanote sounds like a character I'd like

wind stump
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Emile really likes cows.

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given the artstyle I'm getting VA-11 HALL-A esque flashbacks and i wonder if Emile has cow related PTSD somehow or if NieR has fucking ruined everything for me because i'm secondguessing something THIS BENIGN

fresh bane
gaunt marten
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ie

fresh bane
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I think she just really likes cows

quiet swift
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🐮

fresh bane
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moo

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probably a country girl or something ajyeehaw

slim thorn
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yeah this just gives me the same vibes as how I grew up with cats

fresh bane
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I did think of valhalla too with the pixel art

wind stump
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SO I AM THE CRAZY ONE

fresh bane
gaunt marten
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The pixel art is great

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The purple silhouettes they do of "Generic" characters and the designs they give to them suck

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Every single generic character is trash

wind stump
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i overcomplicated a jumping puzzle, thought i had to do a multi screen thing when it was on the same screen

mossy flume
gaunt marten
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(She killed a megasloth in one hit, shattering its spine and destroying a leg instantly)

wind stump
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Seems balanced

fresh bane
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on the other hand....

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dark forces remastered mistywoohoo

river veldt
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yeha being done by Nightdive which means it will be good

fresh bane
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Hoping we get to see the day Jedi Knight gets remastered :sunsetbounce:

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game is literally as old as I am and it shows but dammit it's fun grannysmithgetoffmylawn

river veldt
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i tried playing Jedi Knight 2 and did not like it

mossy flume
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The closest we get to the Jedi Knight games these days are the Jedi Fallen Order/Jedi Survivor games.

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Really miss the feel of Jedi Knight though.

fresh bane
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Fallen Order inevitably feels a lot more cinematic because that's what games go for nowadays but I really love the slightly janky videogamey feeling of Jedi Knight

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Definitely would love a remaster of Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, I've dumped an insane amount of hours into Jedi Academy as a kid and I'd do it again if they remastered that game

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I like how this project manages to keep the feel of Jedi Knight intact and it just makes it a bit prettier visually

mossy flume
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Indeed!

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And then shortly after it was released it kinda erased from the internet rdwut

thorny loom
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Tbf. We are getting a remaster of the original

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My guess is disney may have asked nicely to stop

mossy flume
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Are we getting a remaster?

thorny loom
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Of the first game yes

mossy flume
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Huh, TIL

fresh bane
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It's what I was talking about immediately before this convo opaLOLine

slim thorn
fresh bane
thorny loom
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I just want my empire at war offical remaster

fresh bane
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oh that's the RTS right? pippwhoa that would be cool

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I don't know how many people are interested in RTS now though

slim thorn
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maybe it's because I was never into it, but RTS has always felt to me like a modestly successful but not dominant genre; is it more complicated than that?

quiet swift
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always

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C&C and starcraft felt pretty dominant

slim thorn
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dominant within RTS, yeah, I mean over other genres, like there was a time when seemingly all of the biggest games were cartoony platformers, and a time when seemingly all of them were WW2 shooters, then sci-fi shooters, but I don't recall RTS as a genre ever being like that

river veldt
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is Civilisation a rts

slim thorn
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Civ is turn based

river veldt
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right woops

visual hill
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RTS was dominant in the early 2000s but floundered with the rise of consoles versus PCs, skill floor being high, watchability in esports being low, etc

quiet swift
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will reply after this wow dungfeon

slim thorn
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ah that makes sense

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also I was half-expecting one of you to say "mostly but then Civilization 6 3/4 introduced Active Time Battle which was controversial to say the least-"

visual hill
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there are decent console RTS options nowadays, but they don't really attract that many players

slim thorn
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I suppose someday I should give Pikmin a chance

visual hill
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me too, I need to try it

quiet swift
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I'd say the 90s as a whole were the RTS era, earlier had stuff like Dune and Warcrafts and C&Cs, age of empires as well I think? And late 90s had starcraft, total annihilation

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But late 90s is when FPS I think became a much bigger and eventually dominating genre

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Plus what Calinou said with consoles

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Heck, Homeworld 1 was 1999

slim thorn
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makes sense, early 00s is when I really started paying attention

bleak lintel
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Dota and League did a lot of damage to RTS genre as well.

slim thorn
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oh?

quiet swift
bleak lintel
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Pretty much killed the competative scenes.

quiet swift
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League literally came from a warcraft 3 mod

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Defense of the ancients?

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And it was built as a whole own game from that onwards

visual hill
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some people bought Warcraft 3 only to play DOTA

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like some people download DOTA2 only to play custom games nowadays

quiet swift
bleak lintel
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SeeleNoted Plus the big IPs bowed out. Warcraft became a MMO.
Red Alert disappeared.

quiet swift
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shakesfist at EA

bleak lintel
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Starcraft 2 was pretty good but came out during the downslope.

quiet swift
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Wasn't that 10 years later? 2010? ppenk

slim thorn
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yeah, by the time I was paying attention I got the strong impression that Starcraft 2 was "the only RTS"

bleak lintel
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Yeah, I had a leaflet from some Blizzard game that had SC2 coming out soon... 6 years later from the date that was printed.

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There's still great RTS coming out here and there, they're not mainstream anymore.

robust steppe
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Should I try Black & White 2?

quiet swift
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Ehhh

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B&W are interesting to explore for maybe a few hours but it wears off quick ppenk

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Lol, KKND in that article

wintry canopy
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Like Pokemon, black 2 and white 2?

quiet swift
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Nah, god game

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv8xkwj7RE0 KKND was... well, borderlands level of humor meets post apocalypse meets RTS

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fresh bane
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the RTS I played the most as a kid myself was Age of Mythology and WC3 sunnypog I still love both so much

slim thorn
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I played Age of Mythology once

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I feel like I might've finished the campaign but the actual, you know, RTS part never really clicked for me

fickle garnet
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I found a steam deck on marketplace for $500 that is a 64gb and they say they modded in a 1tb ssd

thorny loom
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Have them boot it up and log in to verify the claim

quiet swift
gaunt marten
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Wikipedia's standards of notability for videogame are quite poor

fickle garnet
gaunt marten
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Be careful with any hardware you can't get a refund on

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Lots of SSDs are fake — they report having one terabytes by altering the hardware to make it say that

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When in reality they have like 128GB

fickle garnet
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That is true

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They say it has a corsair mp600 1tb

gaunt marten
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I trust that one to have as much data as it reports

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But it's only worth like fifty dollars used

fickle garnet
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Im not gonna buy it

slim thorn
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hm, Heart of Cerulean Incense... double fervour but half blood attacks, that feels like something I might want to use very situationally since I really want the blood attacks until my sword is stronger

fickle garnet
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Im getting a computer next year anyways

slim thorn
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I didn't know there was an achievement for that ppenk

mossy flume
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Pretty sure that was the very first achievement I got haha

slim thorn
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I walked into it pretty quickly but stopped there

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I was also surprised to discover rando has a check for "Spaceship - Rumbi Abuse"

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that's right, ^this was my first achievement

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after this solo multirando I should play some of the other platformers that were in the same bundle I got hat in time from

quiet swift
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oh hey, there's some cyberpunk 2077 twitch drops

robust steppe
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quiet swift
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Screw that, make movies with Stunt Island instead! ppenk

river veldt
gaunt marten
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This you?

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I don't think I can make a top 25 list

mossy flume
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No Metroidvaniyas smh

fickle garnet
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I don't even know my top 5

gaunt marten
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Zelda is a metroidvania

mossy flume
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Me neither, there's absolutely no hope of me compiling a top 25 list

gaunt marten
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Also Shovel Knight

river veldt
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these are in order btw

fickle garnet
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Besides TLOU, and Elden Ring

gaunt marten
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I can't believe your least favorite videogame ever is Super Mario 3D world

river veldt
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no it's not it's in the top 25

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i have played more than 25 video games lol

gaunt marten
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The joke is you only—

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Yes

river veldt
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Half Life 2 might be a bit higher actually

mossy flume
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I can probably make lists constrained to specific subcategories within a specific franchise, but expanding it beyond that would make the task rather impossible. Played far too many games that I've quite enjoyed for various different reasons.

river veldt
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now to do top 25 movies

gaunt marten
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Do top 25 videogames of each five year period

teal sonnet
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omg I was not the only one

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this piece of shit sign me out every single time

thorny loom
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I was wondering if it was just me or a bug

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Luckly i dont use jt for anything so rdsnrk

river veldt
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Nintendo turned 134 last weekedn

hasty patio
dire gate
river veldt
#

whaos

river veldt
#

wrong chat

river veldt
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lolll

peak mesa
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Michael Hollick, the voice of Niko Bellic, wasn’t paid much despite GTA IV being a multi-million success.

quiet swift
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Most of the video game actor related stuff is voice acting so yes. Some more modern games are also using motion capture stuff so they're doing more outright acting than voice acting, but it should include both

little badger
light gate
#

Makes sense.

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Its literally the full game.

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And you get a free demo to try and see if you like it before shooting to buy it.

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That's really smart.

slim thorn
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...I had no idea they were putting RE4RE on phones

#

considering how well it performed on my laptop that could work

little badger
fickle garnet
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No they're priced too high (in Canada)

light gate
#

Considering its been $60 dollars for many years, I think it has to go up unfortunately.

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mistywatching But I doubt it'll go to employees.

fickle garnet
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Mfw most games in Canada are$90

little badger
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For standard editions?

fickle garnet
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Yes

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At least on console they are

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They're a bit cheaper on steam

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Some of them not all of them tho

teal sonnet
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it is not a mobile game

#

it is a full AAA game that now can run on a phone

little badger
harsh kestrel
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Okay, please be wrong and please tell me some overly greedy corporate fuckhead didn't actually say that. If so, bro, get them out of here

gaunt marten
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Didn't say what?

thorny loom
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Should have had one to begin with but some lessons have to be learned the hard way

gaunt marten
#

Maybe Hitman devs should learn the same lesson

little badger
mossy flume
little badger
slim thorn
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I thought we finished the marathon of mega releases already; what are the big games this month?

river veldt
#

October has Super Mario Bros Wonder 🥳

mossy flume
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C2077 Phantom Liberty
Spider Man 2
Cities Skylines 2 next month
Super Mario Wonder next month

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Uhhh

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I think there’s one or two more as well

dire gate
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Sonic Superstars

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Sonic Frontiers' last DLC...although that one is free

mossy flume
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Alan Wake 2

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Like a Dragon Gaiden
Assassin’s Creed Mirage

river veldt
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Arkham Trilogy on Switch

mossy flume
#

This holiday season’s itinerary is insane

dire gate
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Ys X Nordics will release in a day, but only in Asia for now

river veldt
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Baldur's Gate 4

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Baldur's Gate 78

mossy flume
#

Payday 3 happened, of course

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Oh shit, the new Forza Motorsport too

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Next month

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MGS Collection Vol. 1

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It just keeps going midnightwut

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Mario RPG, Persona 5 Tactica, Call of Duty MW3… I think you get the point twimerp

little badger
mossy flume
#

All of that is this year

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Yep

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I started a new save file so it’ll be a bit before I get to it

little badger
dire gate
#

...That doesn't sound like an easter egg

mossy flume
#

That sounds like a bug

mossy flume
little badger
slim thorn
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wow, that is a long list of games I won't play ppenk

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but fair enough that'll keep a lot of people busy

heady bridge
river veldt
heady bridge
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I don’t like 2D Mario so I probably won’t.

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3D Mario is a different story

river veldt
#

waow

heady bridge
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Sonic is the opposite for me, love 2D Sonic, pretty indifferent to 3D Sonic.

rotund forge
#

I've only ever played 1 Sonic game and it was only for like, 30 minutes. Take your guesses lol

mossy flume
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I’m only interested in a few of them, but yeah, the release schedule is really dense for the rest of this year

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There are a bunch more I didn’t list but those are the big ones, I believe