#general gaming
gaunt marten
Ocarina of Time has a fun system for dynamic loading of rooms
The moment you move closer, you're transported into a near identical room
fresh bane
purp 
river veldt
why are you ourple
fresh bane
I thought you meant the cutscene that plays when you enter some rooms but that would be more regular loading than dynamic loading
gaunt marten
It's not a cutscene. The room is loaded beforehand
You're just moved to the room when you approach
Distant rooms are deloaded to save memory
gaunt marten
why are you ourple
I'm playing the Archipelago randomizer with Manechat friends and it allows me to choose or randomize things like my colors
river veldt
oh neato
slim thorn
and it's illegal to play a randomizer with the default skin /s
river veldt
does the rupee sprite take it's colour from Link's tunic colour ?
gaunt marten
I played the default skin first time
river veldt
or did you make that ourple too
gaunt marten
does the rupee sprite take it's colour from Link's tunic colour ?
No I made them all purple because it's the best color
river veldt
oh cool
gaunt marten
I didn't make the hearts purple because red is fine for HP
slim thorn
purple is for additional health bars
fresh bane
I'm surprised there isn't a purple tunic in a Zelda game considering purple is sort of the royal color in the games
outside of 4 swords anyways
slim thorn
too similar to Zelda?
gaunt marten
Zelda in Breath of the Wild 3 when
river veldt
purple was a royal colour irl as well
cause it was hard to get
so you needed to be wealthy to get it
slim thorn
river veldt
yeah it came from snail shells i remembered that
river veldt
wow
the romans copied the greeks but then the byzantines copied the romans
is everyone just copying each other
slim thorn
to some extent, yes
I believe the Greeks borrowed some stuff from Egyptians and Babylonians and Sumerians, but I'm not familiar with that part of history
gaunt marten
Fun fact
It was also less purple when it was new
The colour-fast (non-fading) dye was an item of luxury trade, prized by Romans, who used it to colour ceremonial robes. Used as a dye, the color shifts from blue (peak absorption at 590 nm, which is yellow-orange) to reddish-purple (peak absorption at 520 nm, which is green). It is believed that the intensity of the purple hue improved rather than faded as the dyed cloth aged.
gaunt marten
is everyone just copying each other
The Byzantine empire considered itself the last remaining continuous part of the Roman Empire.
That's one reason there's a schism between Orthodox and Catholic Christians
The Catholic pope crowns the Holy Roman Empire (which was German and not related to the Roman empire) as emperor of the Romans.
While the Orthodox emperor claims that title for himself
slim thorn
my favorite part is when people copy each other incorrectly
the whole "neoclassical" style that many famous American buildings like the Capitol, the White House, the Lincoln Memorial, etc were intended to be copying Greek architecture and monuments, but at the time nobody understood that Greek stuff used to have a bunch of bright colors on it, so all those copies were pure white from the start
gaunt marten
Most of the dyes the Greek had were not color fast
minor gorge
(I do like the neoclassical's white look, though.)
slim thorn
agreed, it's not a bad look at all
it's just funny how we got there
speaking of which, my favorite fun fact about how the US Founding Fathers are mythologized
the Lincoln Memorial is designed to resemble the Temple of Zeus at Olympia, of all things
gaunt marten
It's been 75% off before
fresh bane
I love how the last thing I said was ''I'm surprised ther eisn't a purple tunic in Zelda'' and when I come back I get greeted by the history of the byzantine empire 
minor gorge
We are fun like that.
weak river
Oh! Now say the same thing, but substitute purple for a different color.
Maybe we'll get to learn about the Persians!
slim thorn
or keep Nire here by mentioning a purple thing from Dragonball
fresh bane
Freezer? 
slim thorn
I knew I was forgetting an obvious one
gaunt marten
Frieza
fresh bane
Furiza
quiet swift
Gesundheit
slim thorn
one of these days Nire needs to read Hunter x Hunter just so we can see his reactions to the Dragonball allusions in the Chimera Ant Arc
also I need to read or watch some form of dragonball
gaunt marten
That arc was the one that belonged in the story least
slim thorn
it didn't advance "the main plot" much, but it is framed as a giant detour from the start, and I still enjoyed it immensely
slim thorn
true, though we could say that about a lot of arcs in most long-runners
since the arcs before and after it advanced plenty of main stuff it didn't feel like an issue at all when I read it 
gaunt marten
My experience with it is watching a little bit over my brother's shoulder
slim thorn
I also had the benefit of reading the collected tankouban volumes instead of the original chapters in shonen jump (HxH was kinda infamous for having unfinished art that got cleaned up later)
dense crypt
Oh cool ff8
gaunt marten
Yeah
dense crypt
I read it as VII first and rolled my eyes but then i focused harder and saw it was VIII
Hadnt read beyond that
gaunt marten
I like FF7 and 9 music better than 8, but it's all fantastic. 8 is my favorite overall
dense crypt
Same
river veldt
7 music <3
dense crypt
The Man with the Machine Gun and Maybe I'm a Lion are god tier
grave tide
river veldt
no memes please
slim thorn
yeah that second image was a bit much
minor plover
also the release was November 2010: https://publicintelligence.net/us-army-apache-longbow-ah-64d-attack-helicopter-operators-manual/
slim thorn
but laughing at warthunder leaks is always on-topic 
minor plover
the second image was a meme
river veldt
it literally was
fresh bane
my 'friend' from yesterday is back 
weak river
I take it you won that fight.
fresh bane
Not really, he's a platinum player with over 200 hours in battle hub alone and I barely have 5 and overall 20 hours in the game in total from practice and other casual matches
weak river
Ah.
That makes it somehow worse, I think.
fresh bane
I won a couple of rounds this time because I've been reading about my character and practicing but I'm not at the level of a plat player, he's just a trash talker
200+ hour player shit talking a barely 20 hour player unranked and going into my profile to see what I've been up to
river veldt
who's the green fella who was raised by electric eels
blanka
i like him he's from Brazil
"the day m bison killed your father was the worst day of your life. for me, it was tuesday"
slim thorn
it certainly says more about them than about you 
minor plover
that sounds like he has self-imposed rules about what makes a "good" player, and would fall into the "scrub" mentality: https://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub. Like he's trying to get you to stop using "cheap" tactics.
flint iron
Some players also like to get into your head with toxic behavior and bad sportsmanship to try and push you to play worse
fresh bane
I didn't even use any cheap tactis, the funny thing is he kept mashing command grab more than me, I'm just playing to the best of my abilities he seems to have gotten salty that sometimes I kept command grabbing him in a row but it's his fault if he can't defend against that
He even made sure to private dm me rather than speak in the chat so I guess it's just a thing he likes doing, I didn't even know how to use the chat so I didn't reply I only found out today and I just said ''lol lmao'' and went back to the machines to practice
hope I don't come across him again, I was waiting for someone to fight and he beelined into my machine when he saw me and I didn't have enough time to get up
static bluff
OCRwmix's album number 100 is a Final Fantasy album
I'll check it out!
gaunt marten
If anyone's rude like that I just block them
If you block someone on Steam, not only will they be unable to see your profile, they'll be excluded from any Steam-run matchmaking service (like for Dark Souls)
river veldt
who would be rude to you
slim thorn
people who are rude to everyone, for starters
gaunt marten
Dark Souls matchmaking is antagonistic by design
A lot of trolls thrive there.
Some even abuse bugs to get you banned or break your save.
slim thorn
I can't remember if I had that on or not during my failed attempt to play it
I feel like I might've turned it off immediately
gaunt marten
You only get invaded if you're human and have not beaten the boss of the area you're in
slim thorn
huh
gaunt marten
With some exceptions like you asking for an invasion
You also may only summon cooperators under these conditions
minor plover
and only if you're using online play
slim thorn
to clarify, I feel like I might've turned online play off immediately
but I also spent almost no time as human so I'm not sure
fresh bane
If anyone's rude like that I just block them
I'm sure there's some way to block people but I honestly can't even be bothered to put the energy into that
I'd rather just chime in, play my games, and then get out
gaunt marten
One funny trick they play on you, in Dark Souls 1 your health starts at 100% and you lose 50% of it if you lose your humanity.
In Dark Souls 3, your health is 100% but you get 30% more if you use an ember, and you start unembered.
fresh bane
Dark Souls 2's version of that was the worst
gaunt marten
So even though the end is the same, and dying loses you ~25% of your health, it feels better because the ember bonus is a bonus
fresh bane
in Dark Souls 1 you don't lose health if you die, it's just if you're cursed
if you die you just go hollow and you're not human anymore
minor plover
I don't think you lose health for losing humanity in DS1. I've only watched, not played, but that doesn't seem like what I've seen. (You have lower item discovery and lower defenses without humanity)
fresh bane
it's DS2 where if you die, you gradually lose more and more max HP
and it fucking sucks
gaunt marten
Right, right. It's DS2, where you slowly lose HP up to 50%
minor plover
yeah, dying from a curse gives you half health which sucks
gaunt marten
Either way, it's exactly the same mechanic
One feels bad because you start with the extra HP
dense crypt
my 'friend' from yesterday is back <:rdlol:588652359643824128>
I knew a guy like this. He and i were pretty cool until SF6 came out. We hadnt apoken for a while until then but something must have happened to where he became really toxic and fucking RAGED at me for playing similarly to what this dude is being a crybaby about.
fresh bane
this is your brain on competitive gaming
games like league of legends change people
I know because it changed me
dense crypt
Like, he was fucking raging abput how none of what im doing is ever going to actually work in a competitive setting and that im just limiting myself, etc
minor plover
there are some people it's really bad for
slim thorn
I remain baffled and fascinated by people who claim to enjoy this and games designed around it
dense crypt
Like bitch im new to fighting games and i do t learn very fast what do you expect, you KNOW im like this, been like this since SF5
fresh bane
It's not really a problem of the game itself, League is a very fun game and I legitimately enjoy it and think it's a great moba
it's just the people and the mentality you start developing when you play
SF6 is also fantastic too to be fair these experiences are just one of the many positive ones you'll have, like I said last night the first guy I fought actually complimented my gameplay and said if I practiced a little bit more I'd give everyone trouble
But once you get into that sweaty hardcore competive circle you better develop tough skin
In the worst cases you start acting like those toxic people too without realizing
quiet swift
Basically
dense crypt
Ive sworn off fighting games because they just breed this community of saltlords who have nothing better to do than forget they were new once and trash on people who are just trying to have some fun and play the game
minor plover
tbf some games do have garbage hitboxes
fresh bane
Nah that's taking it a bit too far, if you play mostly casual matches you'll have a good time especially if you queue for casual matches in the menu
No chatting or anything, just go straight into the game and rematch as many times as you want and go away whenever you want to
It's mostly around the more competitive circles that people get really shitty and elitist about skill but most players and most people are also trying to improve and have fun
slim thorn
the talk of "saltlords" reminded me of that one area of Blasphemous where nothing can be seen except a bunch of people transformed into salt statues as punishment
fresh bane
....that's salt?
slim thorn
new headcanon
fresh bane
I thought it was ice
slim thorn
it is hard to tell when you first get there, especially since it is a lake
but iirc the NPC there will tell you it's salt
dense crypt
9th circle moment
weak river
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/blasphemous/images/4/49/Screenshot_Lake_of_Sil...
Above: real photograph of the fighting game community
thorny loom
sports game ports are notoriously bad
minor plover
sounds like the PC version is just awful
fresh bane
About time people realized these games are copy pasted and offer nothing new that couldn't be already offered in an update or patch to the previous games
I'd say I'm baffled that people still play these but I realize that most of the audience isn't exactly gamers and mostly sports fans which is a pretty big audience
minor plover
it's fun watching actual pro basketball players play these games
slim thorn
indeed, sports games have always been a "why do people play these?" for quote-unquote "gamers" and yet continue to sell crazy numbers
minor plover
sometimes they're surprisingly good at them. Turns out they have good reflexes and understand basketball.
slim thorn
I assume they're close enough to the sport that it makes sense for sportsball fans, and that's mostly good enough for me
what confuses me is, as you said, the changes from year to year are not big
in fact this seems like maybe the only single player genre of game that should be a live service, if people care that much about roster updates to match the real life sportsball leagues
minor plover
some years they make a significant change, but some years it's just new rosters and that's it
fresh bane
It's not really confusing at all, it's quite clear that they're just greedy scumbags, that much is clear
slim thorn
I mean what's confusing is people buying a game that's identical to one they already own except for roster, in droves, when this is not a secret to anyone
given people do that, of course it's not confusing that the publishers would keep making them
fresh bane
The only confusing part would be why people pay for it but again I assume most people who play these sports games aren't exactly gamers who are very in tune or really know about the company that much, the kind of people that go ''ah sick new nba game let's goo'' and don't really think much of it
especially when the fomo kicks in and maybe they realize ah if I don't switch I'm not gonna have anyone to play with online or whatever
I don't know how the updates for these games work but I think it'd be safe to assume the previous games stop getting updates entirely in favor of the new game
slim thorn
probably
especially back when subscriptions and live services were not a thing yet so you actually had to release a new game to do a roster update
or an "expansion pack", as they say in ye olde english
fresh bane
I'm pretty sure even back in that era the differences between the games were very minor which is why it's been happening for so long
minor plover
in many cases, game sequels have started out as planned expansions / DLCs that grew enough to become a full game. Like Descent 2 was meant to just be a Descent expansion.
fresh bane
people just... keep paying for it
slim thorn
regardless, it does still seem to be true that for people not hugely into the sport in question, like most of us, these games have nothing we'd be interested in
minor plover
but yeah, sports games, the releases are barely expansion-quality and definitely not new-game quality
slim thorn
in many cases, game sequels have started out as planned expansions / DLCs that g...
or Silksong
fresh bane
I just read a review in the steam page that basically said: ''they just sold the same game. I bought 2k23 less than 10 months ago, I didn't hesitate to buy 2k24 but I didn't realize they're worse than robbers! Paid for a software update''
the weirdest part of the review being ''I didn't hesitate to buy 2k24''
a lot of people in the reviews seem surprised that this is happening but it's been like this for so many years it's why I think maybe these people just aren't really keeping up with this stuff or don't realize or care until it gets this bad
weak river
There's another review on that Steam page that's just informing people how to request a refund.
fresh bane
The situation seems to be the exact same as it has been for a while except now it's even worse especially because the game seems to play like trash
minor plover
yeah, this appears to be worse than past years
fresh bane
So you're getting a worse version of the game you already own
quiet swift
I just read a review in the steam page that basically said: ''they just sold the...
...Where have they been for the past... decade?
fresh bane
Too busy playing 2K apparently
river veldt
but iirc the NPC there will tell you it's salt
this game is based on Catholicism isn't it? God turned that one guy's wife into a pillar of salt when she looked back at the burning city
slim thorn
it sounds like they're going through the same angst "the gamer community" went through with "AAAs" when I was a teenager , and led to the indie PC boom
fresh bane
Blasphemous isn't 'based on' catholicism as much as it's based on Spanish culture with obvious drops of fantasy in there
slim thorn
this game is based on Catholicism isn't it? God turned that one guy's wife into ...
yup, the full lore is that some guy pretended to be a priest and used salt in performing his fake miracles, so both him and his followers were turned to salt as punishment; his penance is to bless specific objects you can bring him and that's how you get several of the "relics" that give you special abilities
river veldt
ooo
slim thorn
but yeah "based on" is just a smidge too strong, since it's not like anyone is a 1-to-1 match for Bible characters, I'd go with "inspired by"
river veldt
yeah poor choice of words on my part lol
i just remembered that the helmet or whatever was Catholic or something
slim thorn
yep, which I did not know about before that chat here
fresh bane
My only question is how is the guy able to still bless things if he pretended to be a priest but I guess he's doing it 'fr fr' this time
slim thorn
tbf you could ask how any of the NPCs even know what their penance is supposed to be
I assume the Miracle just made them know
fresh bane
The hat itself isn't catholic persé again it's just spanish culture, it was a hat used for penitence and to humilliate people who were being judged
Nowadays it's used for religious events and demonstrations during the holy week
fresh bane
I assume the Miracle just made them know
To be fair until I was told, I had no idea what my penance was
Unlike Link in Zelda it seems this protagonist really is fully silent
slim thorn
not like protag's gonna say what it is
I like how the protagonist remains completely anonymous and backstory-less for the whole game, and several characters even comment on this; he's just the guy who managed to kill all the bosses
Nire: you haven't seen any of the endings yet, right?
river veldt
I assume the Miracle just made them know
what is the Miracle
fresh bane
I know nothing about this game other than what I've seen through my playthrough
slim thorn
cool, I will not say what I was just thinking of then
fresh bane
I'd like to imagine the ending is the protag takes off his capirote and says ''I guess I was blasphemous ™️ all along''
river veldt
Shovel Knight is in Blasphemous
slim thorn
what is the Miracle
in the world of Blasphemous, "the Miracle" is everyone's name for whatever mysterious supernatural will is doing all the weird stuff
river veldt
behold
fresh bane
the miracle is the friends we made along the way
river veldt
oh i see
slim thorn
it's typically described in divine terms but what it is or wtf it wants is ultimately a mystery
fresh bane
That's basically Grace from Elden Ring
river veldt
that island painting also looks familir
fresh bane
except that turned out to be || aliens ||
river veldt
w h a t
slim thorn
(Blasphemous 2 adds an interesting wrinkle to this subject but I'll leave out that part of the answer for when Nire gets that far)
river veldt
||what do you mean it turns out to be aliens||
robust latch
gaunt marten
https://store.steampowered.com/app/534290/Cursed_Castilla_Maldita_Castilla_EX/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/233980/UnEpic/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/250760/Shovel_Knight_Treasure_Trove/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/493200/RiME/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/331690/Crossing_Souls/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1340480/The_Cosmic_Wheel_Sisterhood
river veldt
no i can't move on from this what do you mean ||aliens||
gaunt marten
(All Spanish games except Shovel Knight)
fresh bane
The Greater Will is the mysterious force behind the Golden Order in Elden Ring, the final boss of the game || was sent to the Earth on a gold star by the Greater Will and became the Elden Ring which became a central part of the Golden Order as it's what embodies the laws of the world. Whoever or whatever the Golden Order is is some sort of Eldritch ancient god alien being who introduced all of these things laws and magic and even alien entities into the world ||
river veldt
whoa
slim thorn
fantasy settings have a habit of flipping into sci-fi when the world-building gets past a certain depth
river veldt
that's so cool
fresh bane
An optional boss from the game is basically || an outer god/alien who crashed into earth as a meteorite and there's other creatures similar to him and with similar magic ||
river veldt
WHOA
slim thorn
it's even cooler in motion, look up a video sometime
river veldt
did Jerma fight this fella
gaunt marten
Jerma the fella fighter
river veldt
yes
gaunt marten
He fights fellas and fell-you know maybe this joke wasn't appropriate for Manechat
river veldt
||wait i thought that Malenia was the optional boss ? or does ER have many optional bosses||
gaunt marten
It's a Dark Souls game
river veldt
yeah
gaunt marten
That means they have like five optional bosses and one or two optional super bosses per DLC
river veldt
oh ok
slim thorn
...that is a weirdly consistent number
river veldt
what is a super boss
slim thorn
Blasphemous has 9 mandatory bosses, then one DLC added 5 more, then another DLC added 2 more (and gave the 9th mandatory one a new phase)
gaunt marten
Really hard boss
fresh bane
The fingers are also vassal entities associated with the greater will, the two fingers specifically, the three fingers are directly associated with || the outer god of the frenzied flame || and they lead you to that ending of the game, so there's a lot more than just the one entity and it's safe to assume most otherworldly aspects of the world were directly introduced into the game's earth from outside especially any form of special magics
it sounds like a joke but Elden Ring is just ''what if we made Dark Souls and Bloodborne but at the same time?''
slim thorn
"and also open world"
tbf cosmic horror is a very natural fit for their storytelling style
river veldt
that's so cool
fresh bane
Their minimalist approach to storytelling lends itself well for mysterious otherworldly unexplainable phenomena
slim thorn
(it's really a shame I can't enjoy their games, only appreciate videos about the lore)
fresh bane
and it's never really something that is the forefront of the story it's more so something you slowly start realizing through lore dumps and descriptions and just the world itself, and in the end you get a pretty big confirmation but most of the game revolves around the ''politics'' of the entire ring shattering ordeal rather than the cosmic stuff
fickle garnet
Eldritch horrors my beloved ❤️
fresh bane
it's a pretty complex and detailed world whereas something like the Dark Souls world seems a lot more contained and a bit easier to get an understanding of in comparison
I think I mostly remember everything about Dark Souls 1 but there's a lot of Elden Ring I just completely missed
fickle garnet
I only recently found out that the tarnished were brang back to life by the erdtree
slim thorn
relevant Blasphemous 2 stuff: ||things like #1032716748887179434 message, and the whole leaving and coming back centuries later thing, arguably imply that The Miracle is more like an eldritch abomination than a divine being 
||
fresh bane
Well... everyone gets brought back from death, since the rune of death has been sealed so the concept of death doesn't really exist anymore
That's why enemies and you keep coming back all the time
gaunt marten
How come you get to have your own necronomicon
slim thorn
ever since Dark Souls came out, it's mandatory to have an in-universe explanation for your protag and enemies respawning
gaunt marten
I have to use the same one everyone else does
fresh bane
I don't remember fallen order having an explanation for that whole thing actually
gaunt marten
ever since Dark Souls came out, it's mandatory to have an in-universe explanatio...
Borderlands 1 is another game with focus on this feature
river veldt
How come you get to have your own necronomicon
😎
gaunt marten
Released two years before. Each time you die, you're brought back at cost by a "NEW-U" station or a respawn point
slim thorn
yeah I'm mostly kidding, it is a "soulslike narrative trope" and that is actually one example of how Jedi:FO/S are "soulslike" only in a gameplay sense; their stories just aren't souls-y
weak river
TIL that Borderlands came out before Dark Souls did.
I don't know why, but that feels... off.
fresh bane
Even then I don't know how much of Fallen Order is really souls-like considering it seems like a '''standard''' action adventure game but I haven't played it myself so I don't know
river veldt
Oh I just get them off project Gutenberg since they're open domain
alas, i like my books in physical form
fresh bane
if there are any souls like aspects they seemed really surface level to me and the rest is mechanics that don't show up in souls at all like the platforming
weak river
Well, "souls-like" seems to be a relatively broad term nowadays.
I've never actually played Dark Souls - only seen footage - but the gameplay of Fallen Order feels like how I imagine Dark Souls to feel, if that makes sense.
gaunt marten
Technically digital books exist physically in the form of bits
weak river
Although I suppose you could just call that a "melee combat game".
gaunt marten
Also, physical books are grasped by your digits, making them digital
river veldt
i don't even know who i gave my money to considering Lovecraft is dead and i don't think he has an estate
slim thorn
so, gameplay-wise, the main reason Fallen Order gets that label all the time is that it expects you to do a lot of dodging, blocking and parrying, with a limited stamina meter for your blocks and your enemies' blocks, so boss fights typically involve getting their stamina to drain faster than yours
(it also helps that Fallen Order/Survivor have very 3D Metroidvania level design, which people often forget was not invented by Dark Souls )
river veldt
it was invented by me
fresh bane
If only we could gleam what ''metroidvania'' means so we know which games invented/popularized this game design...
nah pretty sure it was dark souls all along
gaunt marten
Glean
river veldt
gloam
slim thorn
and tbh, it's an awesome system for lightsaber duels
fresh bane
The biggest complaint I hear is that lightsabers still feel like clubs
slim thorn
while there's still an element of "why isn't a lightsaber an instant kill" going on there, it's much easier to believe that your saber isn't doing "real" damage until after you break through the bad guy's guard
gaunt marten
What's your favorite word, CaptainMario?
river veldt
lightsabers
gaunt marten
You sound like a petrichor kind of person.
river veldt
or crunch is a good word
fresh bane
I'm honestly very surprised that Fallen Order didn't go for the Sekiro gameplay mechanics rather than the Souls ones, Sekiro seems like a much more logical fit
gaunt marten
Crunch is nice
fresh bane
Sekiro's entire deal is about breaking guards and damaging the enemies' posture so it's not mainly about dealing damage although you can deal damage, the damage dealing part only really comes for killing blows which would make total sense for lightsaber combat
river veldt
i like that word
slim thorn
huh... fair point, I also bounced off Sekiro far too quickly to really form an opinion there
gaunt marten
while there's still an element of "why isn't a lightsaber an instant kill" going...
In uh
Max Payne, I think
Your "HP" is just the protagonist's luck
slim thorn
nice
gaunt marten
You run out, and your luck literally run out, getting shot
fresh bane
In any case, Fallen Order doesn't hold a candle to Jedi Academy's masterful lightsaber combat
Just look at that grace, that elegance
Truly peak of Star War games
slim thorn
I guess I should also add, Fallen Order/Survivor have a lot of animal enemies which don't have any way of blocking a saber and thus breaking their stamina is optional (and usually pointless), but those enemies either do die in one hit, or are 2-5x your size so it's a lot easier to believe they need multiple hits
(there's a few rare cases rare it's even possible to cut off a limb but the enemy's still fighting on lower health)
anyway, not a complete solution to sabers-as-clubs, but far closer than most Star Wars games
fresh bane
Also just from looking at that gif you may think it's a complete joke but this game actually has a pretty in depth 'system' for the combat that people have been discussing and making guides for for years and became the main way to play the game competitively
Yes, this game has (or had) a competitive scene and tournaments
slim thorn
oh no I believe you
that's what all competitive shooters and fighting games look like to me too
weak river
I guess I should also add, Fallen Order/Survivor have a lot of animal enemies wh...
Yeah, the only times in Survivor that I can remember thinking in the back of my head "that swing probably should have done more damage" is when fighting those big BX droids.
Even then, though, I suppose you could explain that away by saying that their armor is made from some anti-lightsaber material or something along those lines.
As far as most other enemies go, though, I thought the games handled them rather well. I would absolutely believe that a Yahg takes more than one swing to take down.
fresh bane
I guess I should also add, Fallen Order/Survivor have a lot of animal enemies wh...
ah the big ass enemies that have unblockable/super-armor moves
slim thorn
yeah, I also find it believable that a combat droid could be made of solid pieces of hard-to-cut metal that no human-worn armor could compete with
since we've seen in the movies that sabers take time to cut through thick doors
visual hill
you know you're playing CS2 right when your 3rd top weapon is a shotgun
people are kind of noticing shotguns are a bit busted in terms of balance, either people are finally giving them a chance or CS2's netcode has made them more effective
slim thorn
oh no
fresh bane
chk chk
slim thorn
NeverKnowsBest just put out a 5 hour video about all 16 final fantasy games
see y'all tomorrow
gaunt marten
It's past midnight
slim thorn
I'll watch most of it tomorrow
weak river
They did it.
They actually did it.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/titanfall-2-receives-first-major-update-in-years-apex-patch-notes-easter-egg-may-be-related/1100-6517774/
fresh bane
weak river
They even took private matches out of beta after, like, 7 years.
visual hill
is campaign affected in any way? I'll probably only care about the campaign when I get to that game (I have too many multiplayer games to care about already)
weak river
I don't think so, no.
fresh bane
I stopped playing TF2 quite a while ago now since I was literally not getting any matches in the slightest and the servers seemed pretty broken
weak river
Well, if you wanted to give it another go, these developments should help with that, it seems.
dense crypt
Yeah pretty active rn from when i played it last night
fresh bane
Well right now I'm not doing much FPS'ing as I did before but if I happen to not touch Apex Legends for a while longer I may uninstall it and install TF2 since I enjoyed my time with it when I was getting matches
weak river
People always underestimate the tactical worth of the Boxtrot.
river veldt
what is this
weak river
Mini-sentry
green fulcrum
Where did the sentry girls meme come from anyway?
weak river
Reddit, probably.
The TF2 subreddit has had, like, two civil wars over them by now.
river veldt
why 😭
visual hill
shower thought: mini-sentry is just a baby sentry
you either find it cute or scary, no middle ground
weak river
Latter for me.
Those things are terrifying.
weak river
Reddit, probably.
The TF2 subreddit has had, like, two civil wars over them by n...
Upon further research, it appears to have been initially propagated by a multitude of social media sites - YouTube, Newgrounds, etc. Some models were even posted on the Steam Workshop back when it first became relevant.
Not sure of the exact origin of it, though.
river veldt
do you guys remember that one comment thread on that Paper Mario OST video that was literally a warzone
weak river
Do tell.
fresh bane
As early as 2020, several artists online began creating anthropomorphic versions of the mini sentry from Team Fortress 2, a sentry turret dropped by engineers, often depicting it as a robotic female character and referring to her as "mini sentry chan," "sentry girl" or "mini sentry tan." On May 17th, 2021, Newgrounds user Flyingpiggles10 posted artwork of an anthropomorphic sentry girl named Mimi, garnering over 300 views in two years.
one thing leads to another and you end with this
river veldt
i don't think i like them they're kinda creepy
weak river
I too am scared of mini-sentries
river veldt
Do tell.
it was a video of a Paper Mario: Sticker Star song and there was a comment thread that was like an extreme war or something lol. sadly the yt account was terminated along with the video so it doesn't exist anymore 😔
weak river
Ah, that sucks.
...I suppose it's unsurprising that it was a Sticker Star video, though.
visual hill
Paper Mario fans are scary
I see a lot of hate for that game, therefore I have to try it eventually
river veldt
Paper Mario fans hate any game that isn't TTYD 
visual hill
the OG Paper Mario has a full decompilation, but no PC port yet
I'm eagerly awaiting for that 🙂
dire gate
I saw someone saying "FINALLY, PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND" during TTYD remake reaction
weak river
What's been happening with Nintendo actually paying attention to their older games recently? We have the Metroid Prime remaster, the Mother rereleases, and now a TTYD remake. I'm sure I haven't hit everything with that, either.
dire gate
"Switch sold well, and we don't have time to make a new game for it now due to making a new console, let's just throw everything we had before to Switch now"
weak river
You... are probably 100% correct, actually.
Still, though, I suppose it's nice to have updated versions of these things.
dire gate
Also after the success of Mario movie they are probably like "Ok Mario sells well let's just bombard people with Mario"
visual hill
What's been happening with Nintendo actually paying attention to their older gam...
post-covid times, lots of games being released at once
I wouldn't read into it too much 🙂 I'd say it's just a byproduct of the increased number of releases
dire gate
It does kinda feel like they were holding multiple projects in their hands and then showing one-by-one every direct to hype people
weak river
I wouldn't read into it too much 🙂 I'd say it's just a byproduct of the increas...
You're probably right.
But I will absolutely read into it too much.
We're getting a new Metroid Prime next week. Guarantee it.
thorny loom
visual hill
I worked on Metroid Prime, my mother's very proud
dire gate
Wow he looks like Elon Musk
thorny loom
Yeah the Ttyd remaster is probably the biggest W in a while for old Nintendo fans
quartz pawn
SIDE EFFECT????? That is a FEATURE!
dire gate
Yeah the Ttyd remaster is probably the biggest W in a while for old Nintendo fan...
Super Mario RPG be like : Am I a joke
green fulcrum
Wow he looks like Elon Musk
Oh my God, he does
quiet swift
https://twitter.com/neoncaelestis/status/1703111955907780621
" 
"
dire gate
Probably even like 99% of Nintendo fans would agree that Switch has a weak performance compared to other consoles
dire gate
You can see that Switch is like realllly bad compared to Xbox or PS5, but quite bad compared to Deck
dire gate
It's meaningless to bash Switch for graphics at this point, I really wonder if Switch 2 "has a PS5 level graphics with upscale" like the rumor
dire gate
It's interesting because it's not a leak but more of "they showed it during game show" thing
At least it doesn't claim that it has PS5 level hardware, it says "it has a decent hardware, and it has upscale tech from nvidia that allows the visual to look like PS5"
I too doubt it would be that powerful, but it can make sense I guess
light gate
I expect Xbox One levels or maybe a Xbox Series S... maybe... but that's just me being generous. The issue is that NVIDIA has yet to reveal any SoC that can do that without eating a lot of power, there are laptop gpus but this needs to be an SoC.
dire gate
I mean it can be a dockmode only feature
I don't think any of the news said it was capable of PS5 graphic in handheld mode, that would be some insane future technology
light gate
Yes but making it "look like ps5" can just mean "it outputs at bigger resolutions" but "looks like Xbox One".
fresh bane
The Switch isn't exactly the console you'd go for for cutting edge visuals but it's legitimately distracting how bad it looks, I'm sure the people in charge of porting it to Switch worked very hard to make it run in the first place but MK1 is a game that focuses so much on the latest visuals that it's pretty baffling it even is on the switch
light gate
That's the gist of it.
dire gate
Yeah we have to exactly see how it feels
fresh bane
but hey if it runs it runs
dire gate
Honestly graphics isn't like the biggest concern, I think more important part is that "it ran UE5 matrix demo"
light gate
Well UE can run on anything if you kneecap it enough.
dire gate
I was honestly expecting about Gen 8 console. If they can improve it from there, that's a W for me
light gate
I mean sure, but I am more worried about backwards compatibility.
That's probably gonna be a deciding factor for me in getting a Switch 2 instead of a Deck.
Because the Deck will not last me a second.
Deck is literally a heavier, bulkier, and power hungry device that would probably top 1 hour of battery for me lol.
dire gate
It would be extremely dumb if they don't have backward comp
I guess Nintendo is often extremely dumb
But I don't think they are that dumb
light gate
Its more about the SoC and how it could need to emulate older titles.
While seemigly looking like it has backwards compatibility.
Some titles are 32bit, and those titles are the ones that might not work on the new Switch.
river veldt
Also after the success of Mario movie they are probably like "Ok Mario sells wel...
im not complaining :p
visual hill
small heads up: if you want to buy the fully unlocked, no-MTX version of Avengers, you can only do it until September 30th for $4. It'll be delisted after that date, but still playable if you bought it previously (including multiplayer)
https://steamcommunity.com/games/997070/announcements/detail/3667674106374610649?snr=2_9_100000_
fresh bane
Always love seeing stuff like this
Crazy how much love and dedication even just one person can have for a game that they take the insane effort and time to do this type of thing
quiet swift
small heads up: if you want to buy the fully unlocked, no-MTX version of Avenger...
Huh. Wonder if that's worth playing. Do they have stuff like campaigns or something? (story is my main interest)
teal cliff
It does have a campaign but the story is fairly weak
little badger
arctic fern
imagine being a game company that releases 2 games in a decade
wait sorry, i forgot about the remasters that are factually worse than the originals
quiet swift
https://i.imgur.com/hqJpSvM.mp4 Something is not quite right here...
arctic fern
phisix!
quiet swift
https://imgur.com/gallery/VetRrQk got it from here, there's a whole gallery of game bugs
teal cliff
what game is that?
quiet swift
@wind stump https://twitter.com/gimmie20dollas/status/1703238612282699906 since you're on a P4G kick
wind stump
OOOOOF
quiet swift
wind stump
#Persona4Golden: Seems that one Persistence stat I missed hasn't mattered, since I didn't hit any gates and attending football got me up the next rank... Which means it's going to bite me even later, probably.
... All I can think of is the hiimdaisy comic
"Daddy I want it BLACK!"
gaunt marten
wind stump
brah now the guide is telling me to rank up Adachi's social link but I literally can't
arctic fern
hecc, the rubber nose rest for my vive broke, and i cant find any replacements online
oh i found some
..
£40
fuck off
oh plus £20 shipping because they're form america
its not a neccessary component so whatever
static bluff
I placed in knight league 🥉
visual hill
Trackmania cup of the day has competition
gaunt marten
rough sleet
green fulcrum
I loved every little bit while she was in front of the camera. The "HEY!" beep was perfection. 
And I also love how everyone is treating Mimi as the Engineer's daughter. It's such a nice and wholesome dynamic
fresh bane
The 2d overlay for her face is something I've never seen done before with Mimi
It's genius, and the animation is so well done overall too
Ain't that a cute little gun 
wind stump
#P4G: Ahhh, I think I found where my stats went a little wonky, I wasn't paying attention to what stats I was getting in Beef Bowl
Seems you get 3 random stats
... shut the fuck up, Adachi
quiet swift
... shut the fuck up, Adachi
unreal idol
Got my 1st Edition Ghost Rare Stardust Dragon listed and I already have an offer for $750 for it
I can get more though, so I'm debating between shooting back a counter offer or just declining it outright and waiting longer. The listing is barely 24 hours old
unreal idol
... shut the fuck up, Adachi
"Shut up. Adachi."
wind stump
I want him to go back to talking about 🌈murders🌈
dense crypt
And being tired
wind stump
and cabbage
wind stump
"I love not thinking!"
slim thorn
it has its advantages
fresh bane
Chie mentioned
slim thorn
I like the part where she deletes an enemy from the fight simply by kicking them off screen really hard
fresh bane
look at her go
other persona characters: use bladed weapons, blunt weapons, bows, etc
Chie: squares tf up
white phoenix
Her kick is the most powerful attack in the series lmao
fresh bane
All those martial arts movies payed off
white phoenix
p4's idle animations are great and show a lot of character
sour hill
p4's a good game
I think the dungeon gameplay is way less fun than p5, but it's still a good game
wind stump
P4UU makes me want to commit crime
Unlimited Elizabeth
-Health increased to 22500
-Invigorate increases SP by 4x the usual rate
-Diarahan fully heals HP
-Mahamaon and Mamudoon now come out instantly
-Ghastly Wail/Memento Mori deals 7500 damage normally, and 44444 with Fear inflicted
-Megidolaon now only activates with 1 hit
dis bitch be op and I have to beat her to advance the Golden Tower
At least the boss doesn't appear to like using Diarahan otherwise I would have DONE THINGS by now
... i beat this boss
by pressing ONE BUTTON
I HATE HOW EFFECTIVE THIS IS.
fresh bane
Average zoner gameplay be like
wind stump
The kicker is that now with Fury of Yasogami, I start in Boss/Unlimited Mode
Remember the restore to full health thing I mentioned before?
Elizabeth can purposefully put herself at low health to Awaken (basically a comback mechanic) and then HEAL TO FULL AT NO COST
Not that it matters... She has two instant kill super attacks. As in, 99999 damage
This character is fucking broken 
Like either of those would break the game
But she has BOTH
This is on top of Boss/Unlimited characters having an automatic damage multiplier and most Boss Characters do look to be insane to fight against, like Boss Yu Narukami just being able to cancel attacks into everything.
arctic fern
https://www.tumblr.com/askagamedev/728453344063078400/about-unity-these-past-few-days some interesting veiws on the unity situation, but TLDR unity spent far too much money before and during the pandemic and are in desparate need of cash
which would expplain the fees
rugged flax
Unity has been infected by IronSource
gaunt marten
Ironsource, yeah
rugged flax
11 of the 13 board members at Unity are investment managers, and one of them is the founder of IronSource.
fresh bane
Unity has been infected by IronSource
That text sounds a little too sympathetic for John, I think it's great to actually re-direct all the internet hatred and hoards of people towards the people that actually are pulling the strings that never take the blame during these situations (look at how much attention was put towards Kotick during the Blizzard situations and not the other equally responsible people) but I don't think that John should be completely ignored either because he legitimately is a greedy scumbag too
teal cliff
Yeah I don't think John is innocent in any of this at all, like that message seems to kind of imply
he's a greedy shithead surrounded by other greedy shitheads trying to fuck over the consumer for more dollars
slim thorn
🎉 RELIC ACQUIRED 🎉
gaunt marten
Next time make him meet Cleofas
fresh bane
but... at what cost...
redento....
I got the final stinger upgrade so that's cool, I don't care too much for the finishing combo and the faster charge attack upgrades though so for now I'm probably holding off to donate these souls to the church
I wanna see what reward I get for throwing money at that thing
fuck go back this is 100% a boss
slim thorn
imo it's the funniest boss
weak river
Dang.
green fulcrum
RIP
hasty patio
Twitter
mossy flume
hasty patio
weak river
Brilliant! Now everything is immediately going to go back to normal.
High five, everyone! We did it!
fresh bane
The employees who warned against this decision multiple times are probably like: ''we FUCKING TOLD YOU 
''
Twitter
giga based gianni
teal sonnet
If they don’t kick their fucking CEO out, nothing will matter
robust latch
the CEO and mgmt who all sold shares in advanced should be rotting in prision for insider trading
mossy flume
They said in 2019 that they wouldn’t make major TOS changes without warning like this after a similar sudden and massive change to the terms. Yet they did.
hasty patio
https://twitter.com/GetGianni/status/1703556559911997537
Now do that in Duke's voice (or Gabriel's).
mossy flume
the CEO and mgmt who all sold shares in advanced should be rotting in prision fo...
That’s a non-issue.
The CEO sold 2000 stock units, which is a very very small amount compared to his trade history. Further, high ranking managers and executives in organizations this valuable or otherwise very large are required to schedule sales well ahead of time, sometimes several months in advance, as part of standard practices to prevent insider trading.
I’m 90% certain that is required by law.
Stock trading becomes complicated as hell when you’re higher up
hasty patio
You don't need to be high up for that to be forced on you, but any position that can have a good handle on future moves/annoucements is basically required.
mossy flume
Yep.
robust latch
i just think it would be funny to see them removed from CEO/positions of power as they are sitting in a prision cell
good way to get them out of power
hasty patio
If you want to get around it, Congress is always there (on the Floor; US Residents only; must be 25/35+, etc.).
I'm not typing out a fake advert for a radio commerical for a joke that is Rule 2 violating.
mossy flume
I’m pretty confident no real crimes have been committed. It’s merely a drama over a significant breach of trust into Unity’s brand as a tool that business owners can rely on, so moving forward it is very difficult to determine if committing to the Unity platform is a safe time and resource investment or not.
robust latch
oh yeah the confidence and any trust in them is certainly shattered
mossy flume
Mhmm
robust latch
i do like seeing all the posts of companies already planning their move even if unity backs down
green fulcrum
I swear, Skyrim modders are a different breed
heady bridge
making changes to the policy
In other words, we aren’t fully backing down. I feel the only way they can even remotely get any trust back is to completely reverse this decision and fire the CEO and board.
The next investors meeting for Unity is going to be very telling.
mossy flume
While I feel like the trust is indeed significantly diminished, I do want to hear what they have to say.
It’ll also be interesting to see what the broader dev community thinks of their response.
hasty patio
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/100850
Thanks Todd. 
fresh bane
''You're welcome, now buy Skyrim again 
''
I met the Bloodstained lady in tonight's sesh of Blasphemous and I find it funny that about 40% of the introduction cutscene is just a panning shot of her thighs
she looks so out of place in this world too it's hilarious
The funniest part is after I finished playing tonight I saw a notification that Bloodstained is on sale because it was on my wishlist
pretty big sale too, 75% 
https://store.steampowered.com/app/692850/Bloodstained_Ritual_of_the_Night/
peak berry
slim thorn
she looks so out of place in this world too it's hilarious
it helps that her story is literally "I'm not supposed to be here, please help me get back to my world"
wind stump
#Persona4Golden So I may have irreversably fucked up
Turns out you can only advance Adachi's social link at night after a certain point
so all the times the guide's telling me to spend time with him at night, i can't and thus drift further from the guide
i fucking hate it here 🦀
quiet swift
This sounds like this guide is out of date 
wind stump
IT'S A P4GOLDEN GUIDE THO
little badger
untold vigil
Bwop
wind stump
boo womp
steady skiff
static bluff
The replies are very funny.
little badger
Elder scrolls will be coming in 2026 or later but will only. Be Xbox and PC only https://twitter.com/hazzadorgamin/status/1703762227491225764?
static bluff
anyway news about a game coming out in 2026 is hardly reliable even if it had a good source.
slim thorn
mm-hmm, we should phrase it as something like targeting a 2026 release
thorny loom
rancid herald
Going straight for the big guns: the Nintendo switch 3
teal cliff
I thought it meant like
It would be for the PS6
I now realize it just means xbox/pc exclusive
little badger
But releasing it on pc and Xbox they will lose a lot of the fanbase I think.
teal cliff
But releasing it on pc and Xbox they will lose a lot of the fanbase I think.
I think they're desperate for games that will sell xboxs tbh
Because at the moment I think Sony is spanking Microsoft in exclusives
so is Nintendo
little badger
And the post that agent posted was fthe document that was at the FTC Microsoft case.
mossy flume
https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1703766570789470649?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ
Makes sense.
They're still in preproduction, most likely.
The PS6 and next Xbox will be available by then
dire gate
Nintendo Switch 2 be like: Hey we got Skyrim, give us the next one too bruh
little badger
The PS6 and next Xbox will be available by then
Do you think they will come out around 25-26?
teal cliff
I think so, 5-6 years seems to be the general console release timeline
heady bridge
Tbh this gen barely feels like it’s started 2+ years in though. Can the industry really justify a new console generation in just a few years time?
slim thorn
I don't think I own any current gen consoles besides maybe the Switch
teal cliff
Thats fair, we haven't even heard murmurings of a "PS5 Pro" yet
and I think we'll see that before we see a PS6
So maybe 27 or 28 for new consoles?
mossy flume
The PS5 came out in 2020 and the pandemic significantly hampered the development cycles for everyone. Further, support for previous gen consoles was extended because of this.
So that cannibalized the current gen a fair bit
little badger
Console generations are likely getting longer.
I heard the PS6 wouldn’t be out until 2028.
mossy flume
Honestly, 7 or 8 years makes sense.
But it's hard to say, I'm sure they're not really looking too much into it right now beyond initial plans.
little badger
I mean when the pro comes out. It’ll last until the 6 comes out.
mossy flume
If a Pro comes out.
I'm not sure if up-tuned mid cycle refreshes are going to be the norm or not.
little badger
It got leaked a while back. But we will see what Happens.
thorny loom
Yeah playstation really got Microsoft good this gen with exclusives
little badger
And the head of Xbox said the Xbox series consoles are almost at the end of the cycle.
thorny loom
I barely play my xbox as is. Mostly a movie box and part time emulator machine
mossy flume
That wouldn't make much sense
The Xbox Series X|S came out in 2020 as well.
But who knows what Microsoft's hardware strategy is.
mossy flume
I suspect they're going to go their own way
slim thorn
I didn't realize the previous generation was longer than usual, much less this current one
little badger
Well the way Xbox is heading they want cloud being used more than consoles.
dire gate
Wii U having a stupidly short lifespan made Switch's lifespan weirder
mossy flume
Yeah, Nintendo is simply detached from the cycle and they have their own
little badger
I mean it’s good they are bringing out a new switch but having it be as powerful and an original Xbox one and PS4 is a bit strange.
dire gate
Gen3 and Gen4 are probably over-extended due to NES and SNES living extremely long
mossy flume
The cycle used to be reliably 5 years. Not so much anymore.
It also doesn't help that game development cycles themselves are also getting longer
dire gate
Both being produced all the way until 2003
mossy flume
Remember when games were built in two years on average? Now it's five.
little badger
It also doesn't help that game development cycles themselves are also getting lo...
Well look at GTA 6 it’s been 10 years and not even a teaser trailer.
mossy flume
Rockstar is an unusual studio, though
The format of their games means that their games are necessarily going to take a lot longer than average to build.
little badger
Yeah Rockstar like surprising everyone with random trailers out of nowhere.
dire gate
They like not releasing games
little badger
And when 6 comes out it’ll be the most highest grossing media ever made
dire gate
mossy flume
Rockstar delayed development of GTA 6 by many years in order to milk GTAV
thorny loom
^
little badger
thorny loom
It was only when consumers complained and 2k themselves ordered rockstar to start making more games did we actually get anything from it
thorny loom
Rockstar remasters are hit or miss
little badger
To be fair the GTA trilogy remaster wasn’t done by rockstar but they had to step in to fix a lot of bugs.
teal cliff
Frankly I don't expect GTA6 to be that good.
dire gate
It is baffling to realize that Nintendo retired Wii U before releasing Switch
For about a month they literally only sold 3DS
teal cliff
It is baffling to realize that Nintendo retired Wii U ***before*** releasing Swi...
That console got it bad lol
Also like, I think early Switch marketing wasn't very good, even though I think the Switch is a great console
arctic fern
Nintendo fucked up the marketing for it big time
teal cliff
I say that specifically because when the Switch came out, I thought it was like the Wii U again, where the tablet was just a game pad and the dock was the console
arctic fern
The switch was what the wii u was meant to be
dire gate
Switch had a good enough marketing, it just had a serious production problem
teal cliff
I didn't realize until I literally bought my own switch a year or so after it came out and brought it home that the tablet WAS the console
I opened the box and I'm like "Wheres the console at..."
So I say the early marketing was bad because I don't think it did a great job explaining that the tablet was the switch, and not just another gamepad
arctic fern
Me either
dire gate
I think they showed how it work good enough
arctic fern
I always knew it was a portable console
mossy flume
The switch was what the wii u was meant to be
Yep. Even Nintendo once said that the WiiU is basically the prototype of the Switch and the Switch was the thing they've always wanted to ultimately make
teal cliff
The Switch feels like the culmination of every Nintendo console
mossy flume
It does!
dire gate
They exactly said that during the media conference
teal cliff
The classic "Full game" experiences of the N64/Gamecube/etc, the casual capturing and motion control stuff of the Wii, and the portability of the DS/GBA
arctic fern
Yep
mossy flume
Although I wish the OS had that cute Nintendo flair to it with like system music, easter eggs, bring the Miis back, etc
teal cliff
They exactly said that during the media conference
Yeah but companies can say that, doesn't mean it's true normally. For the Switch its actually true I think lol
teal cliff
Although I wish the OS had that cute Nintendo flair to it with like system music...
That'd be nice
mossy flume
The Wii's OS definitely had that game feel that I think Nintendo should constantly strive for
dire gate
I have a strong feeling that Switch's OS is partially incomplete
arctic fern
In my opinion, the switch is the best "console" ever made
Hardware and feature wise atleast
mossy flume
The Switch's OS is so barebones
mossy flume
I have a strong feeling that Switch's OS is partially incomplete
it is! They once said they intended to bring more features to it and sell themes for it, but that never happened
dire gate
For example they have a whole "theme" section in their settings
teal cliff
In my opinion, the switch is the best "console" ever made
Hardware and feature w...
I agree. It feels like a full console but it's also portable, its pretty cool
dire gate
Which literally only has "light mode" "dark mode"
teal cliff
Hopefully we get a better OS with the Switch 2
mossy flume
Yeah, they clearly had a bunch of plans that got cancelled
teal cliff
I don't think Nintendo has to innovate much feature wise with the Switch 2
just give us a Switch with QOL improvements and better specs
mossy flume
Hopefully we get a better OS with the Switch 2
That's my hope
teal cliff
I'd buy it
dire gate
From the fact that 3DS had such theme functionality
mossy flume
Switch but with the cozy and playful Wii feel and I'd fall in love immediately
dire gate
It is easy to assume it was supposed to happen for Switch
mossy flume
Yeah, they explicitly stated that was the plan one time
It just... never happened.
Clearly they had some sort of priority shift internally
We also do know that the Switch's firmware was only stabilized literally the month before release
They were behind schedule
teal cliff
I'm not surprised, the Switch felt like a huge jump from the Wii U or 3DS
dire gate
As I said, they retired Wii U a whole month before they released Switch
mossy flume
The Switch's firmware is a fork of the 3DS firmware
mossy flume
The Switch's firmware is a fork of the 3DS firmware
Incidentally this is why the Citra 3DS emulator was forked off to build one of the Switch emulators, because the vast majority of that work was reusable.
dire gate
3DS retired 3 years after the release of Switch. If Switch failed, Nintendo's hardware business was basically dead.
teal cliff
Incidentally this is why the Citra 3DS emulator was forked off to build one of t...
This is quite funny.
mossy flume
The Switch has finally outsold the Wii
teal cliff
The Switch has finally outsold the Wii
I think this makes sense.
mossy flume
I sorta thought the Wii's sales numbers were kinda untouchable
teal cliff
The Switch has the casual appeal the Wii had but more "proper gaming" appeal
at least imo
dire gate
Wii?
Wii actually didn't sell that many hardwares
PS2 is nearly untouchable
People still debating over if Switch can sell more than DS and PS2
mossy flume
100 million is an incredibly difficult mark to hit
teal cliff
Wii actually didn't sell *that* many hardwares
Over 100 million is pretty solid
dire gate
Yes but it's nowhere near "untouchable"
I guess it was still the most sold Nintendo home console
rancid herald
the ps2 had the advantage of being what? a dvd player when dvd players were just coming out?
dire gate
yes?
mossy flume
I mean, the 100 million club is entirely "iconic, timeless game consoles everyone knows" list.
mossy flume
the ps2 had the advantage of being what? a dvd player when dvd players were just...
Yep, that was what drove PS2 sales
It was a cheap DVD player when actual DVD players were much more expensive than a PS2
dire gate
Some people do speculate that Switch's last-holiday sale may make it possible to go past PS2 ever so slightly
mossy flume
That's also what helped drive PS3 sales too, incidentally. It was an affordable Bluray player.
"affordable"
PS3's price was still insane though. $899, wasn't it?
Basically what you get for stuffing two computers into a box.
dire gate
No, I'm pretty sure it wasn't that expensive
mossy flume
Ah, right, $599
Still super high for a game console at the time
Adjusted for inflation, $879
dire gate
Yet they were still losing like 200 bucks per console
mossy flume
YEP
Bluray drives were very expensive
AND they stuffed a PS2 into it for backwards compatibility
Also that CPU architecture was... a bad idea
mossy flume
And indeed Xbox performed quite well
The Xbox 360, despite it's ~52% failure rate, sold well.
mossy flume
Yep, neck and neck
mossy flume
DS was amazing
Such a low spec and cheap device
Anyway, definitely gonna get a Switch 2, Metroid Prime 4 themed at launch, right? Right? Right? 
slim thorn
I feel like the PS3 started out with a super high price point and then went down
but I might be mixing it up with one of the other consoles that did that
mossy flume
I feel like the PS3 started out with a super high price point and then went down
That's right
It went way down as time went on
dire gate
afaik PS3's initial announcement had a price higher than $599.
mossy flume
In the later revisions of the hardware they took out the PS2 hardware, which itself saved them a bunch of money
mossy flume
afaik PS3's *initial* announcement had a price higher than $599.
Correct
dire gate
Then they reannounced the release of the console with the currently known price a year later
mossy flume
They really struggled to make the PS3 affordable
That whole thing was kinda legendary
At the time, anyway
it was just wildly unaffordable in my eyes so I just... didn't look at Sony for several years
slim thorn
remember when the Xbox 360 launched with "full" and "core" versions so they could claim a lower price point, and everyone was making fun of the core?
wind stump
GIANT ENEMY CRAB
slim thorn
is that the "for massive damage" conference?
dire gate
Meanwhile Wii be like : lol you call that a price
wind stump
is that the "for massive damage" conference?
Yes
mossy flume
Meanwhile Wii be like : lol you call that a price
Man, I worked so hard to save up for the Wii by launch day
Still remember standing in line for that in freezing temperatures on launch day XD #corememories
And apparently it was just impossible to find for a year after it came out
Guess what low price and a solid library will do for you
mossy flume
Aaaand bought
Will make a fine addition to my collection. 
Maybe one day I'll have a MTG deck and figure out how MTG works
rugged flax
They'll ship in March
this one is on Secret Lair, so it will be print-to-demand. However many are ordered is how many get printed.
mossy flume
I think they did the same for that first package
rugged flax
nope
the original set was on Habsro Pulse, they'd only made so many of them, and they sold out in minutes.
Secret Lair didn't exist yet back then.
rugged flax
This round is also charity for Extra Life
Fifty percent of each Extra Life 2023 purchase will go to Extra Life and the Seattle Children’s Hospital Autism Center.
rancid herald
I’m actually surprised they haven’t tried tapping ponies for it yet
Magic the gathering that is
mossy flume
This is the second set of pony cards
mossy flume
Ah
rancid herald
They’re doing doctor who
mossy flume
Yeah, you'd think they would've done
mossy flume
They’re doing doctor who
Oh yeah, that's such a weird choice
Forgot about that
Well yay, starting in March, everyone can win the game =D
Imagine playing that in a tournament final.
(I know it's probably not tournament legal, but shush, it should be)
thorny loom
rancid herald
that's good if true? I assume?
arctic fern
thats 2 generations behind what would, at that point, be the latest consoles
but thats still a lot of power in a small, presumably still handheld/switchable, device
slim thorn
how does that compare to a Steam Deck?
mossy flume
PS4 Pro is the estimate I’ve heard consistently
random steppe
PS4 pro isn't awful, how big of a jump it's from Switch tho?
mossy flume
That’s a pretty massive jump from Switch, which is basically a 2013/2014 tablet
little badger
slim thorn
hm... what consoles was a GBA roughly equivalent to? like, was it more powerful than a SNES?
mossy flume
The GBA is basically an SNES, yes
I’ve actually been reading up on that architecture recently. It’s pretty much a more compact and modern version of an SNES
little badger
The GBA is basically an SNES, yes
Wait the GBA is as powerful as the SNES?!
mossy flume
A bit more powerful but not much more
little badger
I didn’t know that.
arctic fern
its amazing how technology advances
mossy flume
It was a 32-bit embedded system, which was a jump from the SNES’ 16-bit architecture, but ultimately it didn’t actually differ too much
slim thorn
"I've never played on a real SNES" is suddenly a lot less true than I thought it was
arctic fern
thats not sarcasm, the snes was cutting edge for the time
mossy flume
It was!
arctic fern
and the GBA was also cutting edge for handheld tech
slim thorn
oh don't worry, that's clear even to a late arrival like me revisiting those older games
mossy flume
Yeah I didn’t know that they were so similar until very recently
slim thorn
some of you saw my Link to the Past reactions being basically "I keep forgetting this isn't a modern Zelda game, except when I have to save"
mossy flume
Basically it was just “what if we made an SNES again but now it’s the year 2001?”
little badger
What could you compare the Sega Saturn to?
static bluff
a hot pocket
mossy flume
I haven’t read up on that architecture yet, but that’s a 5th gen console
Capable of 3D rendering
little badger
I haven’t played one in years.
slim thorn
I keep getting Sega Saturn and Genesis and the Dreamcast mixed up because they're all before-my-time consoles that aren't the (S)NES
somehow I'd never even heard of the "blast processing" meme until I watched The Entire History of Video Games
mossy flume
Incidentally
A very good series of dives into the architectures of different consoles
If anyone happens to care
slim thorn
if "self-reporting" means stuff like "the Steam client reports the install" then that's non-terrible I guess
teal cliff
?????????? SELF REPORTING?
slim thorn
on that very specific point
obviously no human customers are going to waste time on this
teal cliff
I guess that could be it, but thats very curious wording
mossy flume
They already told people to self-report, so that wouldn't be a change
teal cliff
it makes it sound like they expect people to personally report installs?
slim thorn
"customers self-reporting" does sound like it's specifying the stupid thing
teal cliff
Thats what I'm thinking
mossy flume
CUSTOMERS?????
teal cliff
Yes thats what it says
mossy flume
It does say that. But customers of Unity or of Unity based games?
teal cliff
I can literally only think of 1 situation where you'd do that
and its to troll devs
oh thats fair
customers could refer to devs
teal cliff
Like devs being told to report unique, non refunded, non bundle, paid installs or w/e
mossy flume
That can be interpreted in a number of ways, but again, that mechanism is already built into their "clarification" post from a couple days ago
Which everyone hated
Because it still involves problems
It doesn't solve anything
wind stump
"We have never made a public statement before. That is how badly you've fucked up."
- Megacrit
heady bridge
Regardless it feels to me they aren’t really backing down on the policy which in of itself just means people will continue to flock to other engines.
mossy flume
This still stinks of a door in face approach
slim thorn
yep, the biggest problem is still that this was a "retroactive" change, in the sense that it applies to games which have already committed to the engine, which completely shattered trust
slim thorn
and the second biggest problem is that a per-install fee causes far more problems than it solves, even if we trusted Unity's alleged solutions; it's just lacking motivation over a revenue share
heady bridge
The “pray we don’t alter the deal further” meme has never been more true than for Unity right now…
mossy flume
Indeed. If that tweet is accurate, then they seem to want to manage the absolute bare minimum of a walkback and call it good.
Which is far from sufficient
I'm pretty sure that much of the broader dev community may not find anything short of removal of the executives to be a sufficient action to restore trust in their brand. That's definitely not going to happen, of course. I'm curious what they end up saying, but if they want to just put on a tiny band-aid and call it reconciliation then that's kinda sad.
thorny loom
Lmao. Self reporting
random steppe
It does say that. But customers of Unity or of Unity based games?
I feel the only possible reading of that policy is that with customers they mean developers
There is no fucking way that a player is going to email Unity to report that they are installing a game on their computer
gaunt marten
No no, they knock on your door a random time every month and ask to check your computer to see if you installed any games
random steppe
Also with a 4% cap it's just basically revenue share with extra steps
I feel like some devs would just pay them 4% of what they make from sales rather than trying to figure out how many installs happened
quartz pawn
No no, they knock on your door a random time every month and ask to check your c...
goddamit i visualized that 
wind stump
AMOGUS
thorny loom
Borderlands 2 turns 11 today
white phoenix
goddamn that tweet has 80k likes now
fresh bane
https://www.pcgamer.com/dc-comics-adamant-the-wolf-among-us-source-material-is-n...
Messy situation
I can't tell if he overreacted or if he genuinely had a solid reason for doing this, but in any case unfortunately in this world the literal creator of a body of works can't dictate much about it legally like saying whether or not it's public domain, only whoever owns the rights and in this case DC insists they own Fables
gaunt marten
If you decide to willingly sign off all rights to a work instead of merely licensing it, then it no longer belongs to you, and this is fine.
visual hill
if you work for a company or even do any freelance work, the rule is that you don't own copyright on your work. Most contracts are written around this
(not mine though 🙂 I keep copyright on the code I write, it just has to be licensed appropriately)
when you don't have copyright on your work, you have no legal basis for declaring your work as being in the public domain
slim thorn
and contracts kinda need to be written around that, or every sufficiently large project could be trivially legally torpedoed by one disgruntled employee
of course a comic book is not that large of a team
quartz pawn
So I am planning on GMing a Tails Of Equestria game. This will be with 6 players representing the 6 Elements of Harmony going through all of the scenario modules currently available.
All races from the books are available except Buffalo. I will be repurposing them as Yaks.
I already know Meganought wants to play, so all I need is 5 other brave creatures to heed the call of adventure.
This will be a voice chat game and cameras aren't required, but voice will be. I plan on starting this on October 1st and the games will be played on Sundays at 2pm CST for 1 or 2 hours (or whatever works according to work/school/sleep schedules.)
Please let me know if you're interested through DMs.
@arctic fern just so you don't miss seeing this
quartz pawn
Okay.
gaunt marten
Sounds like fun but I'm more of a text person
visual hill
Sounds like fun but I'm more of a text person
You encounter a pretty purple pony princess.
player>walk 5 north
You fall into a ravine. Maud Pie looks at you.
gaunt marten
Zork is fun and all but I'm, talking about text roleplaying
wind stump
Ah I know but the formatting made me think of Zork
river veldt
The Hobbit text adventure
arctic fern
theres a hitchikers guide text adventure
its great
you start off specifically with "no tea"
and "no tea" is an important item
gaunt marten
You eventually end up having both tea and no tea at the same time
arctic fern
i wasnt going to mention that part but yes
oh i once threw my tea at a door
the door was disapointed with me
gaunt marten
Clever, meticulously crafted text adventures are a joy to play but no substitute for human interaction
arctic fern
have you MET humans?
wind stump
yes
gaunt marten
You're playing in my Sunday DnD game so yes
arctic fern
how do you know im human
how do i know you're human
wind stump
I'm a bird.
gaunt marten
I look in the mirror, and you look in the mirror
wind stump
how can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't????
gaunt marten
Man I can't believe Jaden Smith is 26 already
fresh bane
friend 
green fulcrum
Snek
slim thorn
one of my favorite bosses
in our rando, my Sierpes fight reward was only 20 rupees for someone's OoT game, but I did it anyway just because
visual hill
I got a skin <:twismile:399725075332595712>
MAC10 - Candy Apple
gaunt marten
This is what you should do in the arcade version of the game:
||There's a secret reward, a reward for getting all five skulls, and a normal reward for just finishing it.||
slim thorn
come to think of it I'm not sure I ever did that
next rando
speaking of, I just finished 100%ing Yoku's Island Express with its official randomizer mode
river veldt
<:rdsnrk:587780329335422977>
omg this is so cool
fresh bane
This is what you should do in the arcade version of the game:
||There's a secret...
I figured considering you can break the walls and floors in this minigame
blasphemous already felt a bit old school what with all these secret things especially how to even get to this place but this feels even more old school and I was weirdly okay with it
I was legitimately having fun even though it's a severely more stripped down version of the game
also apparently I have 80.92% completion 
oh there we go, full immersion
man that hurts my eyes
the distorted slightly fisheye view lens thing fucks me up real bad
this one actually helps making it look a bit more retro without obliterating what's left of my eyesight
hasty patio
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mid-gen-xbox-roadmap-hardware-leak-series-s-x-refreshes-digital-series-x-refresh-at-499-controller-with-haptics-and-quieter-buttons-at-69-99.765920/ From your friends at the FTC.
astral steeple
random steppe
Yeah, sure
As a sidenote, I am pretty sure there are a number of laws in Japan that restrict foreign companies from aquiring Japanese companies, so I highly doubt those explorations were more than "it'd be nice if" about Nintendo
bleak lintel
Nintendo rejected the buyout before the original Xbox.
random steppe
Oh interesting that they aren't talking about aquisition tho
They are talking about a merger
I mean it's still not happening but it's a different beast
bleak lintel
Nintendo is only interested with companies that share a similar culture and that's not Microsoft. But these are internal emails I'm sure they considered everyone.
WB is still an option given who is running that company.