oh, it is in the limited test š
#general gaming
visual hill
of course, I see this just as I have lots of work to do š¦
fun fact: you can see this pop-up on Linux despite the limited test being Windows-only
slim thorn
all right, I think I'm gonna call it here for A Hat in Time Death Wishes
lots of fun stuff in there but I've hit my skill/fun ceiling
gaunt marten
Nyakuza next?
slim thorn
oh I did all of Nyakuza before diving into the Death Wishes
gaunt marten
Oh
slim thorn
in fact half the screenshots I posted today have the nyakuza jacket on, though the challenges keep making me change masks so it's not as obvious as it'd be with the full outfit
gaunt marten
I figured you got it before you started playing
fresh bane
nyakuza? 
gaunt marten
Meow
fresh bane
slim thorn
nyakuza? <:rdlol:588652359643824128>
yes, the (paid) DLC is a new area called Nyakuza Metro (I posted in-game screenshots of it the other day so here's the loading screen art)
slim thorn
after I found the alley cat who sells it, it became my default outfit
fortunately the game has a very loose definition of "hat" 
gaunt marten
If it's over my head it's a hat
fresh bane
technically cat ears are a hat 
gaunt marten
My new hat
fresh bane
š
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river veldt
yoooo
slim thorn
what are we looking at?
river veldt
he got on the floating island in bob omb battlefield
static bluff
I'm afraid this weight of this achievement is lost on me, but that sounds cool!
slim thorn
oh, the framing made me think this was about getting a program to run on a device
I think I've been up there before... it's either the start or the end of a coin trail you need the wing cap for, right?
river veldt
star yeag
unreal idol
he got on the floating island in bob omb battlefield
Yes this
It's actually not that hard I've just never done it before
slim thorn
you get up there with a cannon, right?
unreal idol
Yea
gaunt marten
Next up, Owlless
unreal idol
Oh I've done that many times
teal cliff
Has anyone else here played Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War or Bladestorm: Nightmare?
thorny loom
random steppe
It's insane that I already forgot Jedi Survivor
quiet swift
So I am looking at the steam stratesgy fest thing and checking out the most downloaded demos
- What the hell, japan?
- What the hell, steam users?
dire gate
It's already in Hc's wishlist
quiet swift
"You are already wishlisted."
"Nani?!" head explodes
dire gate
Reverse Collapse is from the company behind Girls' Frontline and has been known for a while
quiet swift
It's just such a typically japanse "what does this title even mean" thing
quiet swift
@gaunt marten 
Errr
Not sure why I pinged Flitter there. Linked this from my laptop, did the emoji and it somehow attached the ping?
gaunt marten
It's okay
robust steppe
Trying to fix a Skyrim disc
It just doesn't work
Todd Howard gonna send imperal guards for me buying this used
gaunt marten
Skyrim has discs?
I recommend at least Special Edition if you're at all interested in modding the game
robust steppe
Xbox 360
gaunt marten
I see
robust steppe
5 dollars
gaunt marten
That's what I got Skyrim for on PC, but they don't do sales that big anymore
robust steppe
Now I need to work out if they still offer professional disc reserfacing in 2023
gaunt marten
That seems expensive
robust steppe
Nah you could get a machine you can spin manually for like 15-20 dollars
That'll work
Or the old toothpaste and baking soda trick
gaunt marten
Right, but for 15-20 dollars you can get a new copy
robust steppe
The scratchs may be too deep, it only goes to the Skyrim icon and the white fire/smoke at the bottom, then it freezes
https://youtube.com/shorts/dBzuMOU4Qcg?si=ME1GkD-kG0ARa_mr
See he using oral b in this one and oral b is gritty
quiet swift
Trying out the https://store.steampowered.com/app/908770/Global_Conflagration/ demo. Listed as alpha when I load it... But visually and mechanics wise, it seems to scratch that C&C itch for now. This is from about 5 min of gameplay
gaunt marten
Yeah! I like the toothpaste and baking soda trick but I could never do it properly
And I stopped using discs a long time ago
robust steppe
9 out of 10 dentists recommend
Oh yeah my brother talked about that today, saying its a other fortnite game, but he's Ć bigger goofball then me
gaunt marten
Label?
robust steppe
The top bit
gaunt marten
Oh, you mean the metadata
Might have some lucky running data recovery tools on it then
robust steppe
That means the data itself is damaged, you can't fix the data
gaunt marten
Sorry, you're not being very clear
The data can't be just stored in the label because then the disc is useless. Can you explain?
robust steppe
The top, where it shows the name of the game
If that gets a deep enough scratch
Gg
The gray part at the bottom is thicker, that's why you can sometimes reserface it
gaunt marten
That makes sense
robust steppe
It's all about the data and hoe to read the data
gaunt marten
Typically, data is distributed evenly all over the disc.
So a scratch near the label is only a partial loss
robust steppe
Well now ita stuck at "reading"
gaunt marten
Yes, you'll probably need specialized software to fix it
astral steeple
wind stump
It's almost like
Hear me out here
Call of Duty doing these collabs in order to ape fortnite is a bad thing
Only the most obvious and coldest takes here
peak mesa
https://twitter.com/chickenswingss/status/1697342411893092575
Imagine waking up after being in coma since 2005 and this is what you see when you search CoD for the first time since ages.
wind stump
Though sacrificing your players' good will to make All The Moneyā¢ļø has been a thing CoD has been doing for a good while now
Fun fact: Most older CoD games on Steam have unplayable multiplayer because of hackers
and Activision refuse to acknowledge or fix it https://youtu.be/KlVSpw6414U
Hope you like having your PC destroyed for playing a multiplayer game
Oh and they went after fanservers that fix this issue for them
What a great company 
quiet swift
Trying out the https://store.steampowered.com/app/908770/Global_Conflagration/ d...
After playing the skrimish of this, it feels like C&C Generals
slim thorn
someday I'll join you in DEPRESSION, but today's Archipelago day 
harsh kestrel
That's one of the reasons why XDefiant hopefully eventually existing is gonna be good for COD because they'll have some hopeful competition
astral steeple
little badger
astral steeple
gaunt marten
minor plover
https://youtu.be/uysh-K-HW6s?si=FkEAWrbR9uwWTHFl
I watched decino's NM 100% runs and seeing him get that stupid secret was pretty interesting and frustrating
fickle garnet
FINALLY
random steppe
Congrats
fickle garnet
I used a pulse gun, shotgun, and two missile launchers
random steppe
pulse gun is one of those that quickly destroys pulse shields?
In which case, good pick
fickle garnet
Yeah
random steppe
Especially given how you get an automatic stagger once it goes down
fickle garnet
I was also using the boost kick for extra damage
wintry canopy
Is anyone else here saving master duel gems for when Purrely comes out.
unreal idol
Is anyone else here saving master duel gems for when Purrely comes out.<:twimerp...
No but I might save up for new Fire King stuff whenever that ends up getting added. Might be a while though
dire gate
I'm thinking about buying HOI4 during this sale, but the Ultimate Bundle seems a bit too pricey
Is Starter Edition good enough?
teal cliff
I would say no
HOI4 has been rebalanced around the existence of DLC packs you would not have access to
and thus without the new mechanics you're straight up missing assumed parts of the game
also I can't remember but it if it's anything like Stellaris, the AI will still use things you can't,.
white phoenix
Nah it's fine, I only have the waking the tiger one
I think the other ones not in the starter bundle that is in the ultimate one is mainly just optional stuff, the ones in the starter bundle are the ones you want anyway
there are much better guides to each dlc online so you can get a grasp on which features they have
In the end, even just the vanilla game if you're just playing singleplayer is fine
dire gate
teal cliff
Oh the starter edition does come with a few expansions, that's my bad, thought you meant just the vanilla game. I guess you could but you are still missing I think 3 of the big DLCs and as mentioned the game is balanced assuming those are present.
dire gate
This overpriced Paradox bullshit-ry make me not want to buy the game totally ngl
sonic dune
Since there's no No Man's Sky thread, and I don't think there's much if any demand for one, can I discuss it here?
teal cliff
probably yeah
sonic dune
No Man's Sky is being annoying in a way where it's specifically my fault
I live on a planet that both has an aesthetic I really like, and is abundant in a few very valuable resources for crafting (tons of chromatic metal, plenty of cobalt, a bit of gold, tons of sodium)
But hey, at least I get to be a space cowboy
sonic dune
Pro tip for anyone else playing this game
In storms with high winds
Burrow down, then in a random pattern of 90Ā° angles, then down again
Even if you AFK it's basically impossible for the winds to get you all the way out
The same can't be said for buildings, as I've been pulled to, and then through doors
You can also use a smaller burrow to hide from sentinels if they get too much for you
fresh bane
never expected this fun silly graffiti and skating game to actually engage me with the story and the characters 
it has some pretty good setpieces and cutscenes too, this boss was like something out of Sonic Frontiers, honestly surprised me it's a super amazing game all around in every aspect
definitely gonna be hunting for some cheevos and gonna go complete all the areas now that I'm in the post-game 
quiet swift
On GOG
dense crypt
Fr? On GoG?
rare dew
No cap on GOG
quiet swift
wind stump
I tried that game
it was
A LOT
sonic dune
Based on what
harsh kestrel
sonic dune
harsh kestrel
Apparently there was also a near year long strike against the gaming industry back in 2016
weak river
...Did you select "Die"?
thorny loom
https://deadline.com/2023/09/sag-aftra-possible-strike-video-game-companies-1235...
Will probably only affect the triple a industry. Indie devs are fine
Then again I wouldnāt put it past activison to just use ai for character lines in warzone
weak river
Brilliant.
And I'm sure the 5,000 units and/or C-grade life support upgrade that they gave you was absolutely worth cheating death for.
sonic dune
They gave me a couple hundred nanites, actually
peak berry
feel like WWI
fresh bane
I'm mostly just having a micro existencial crisis at the fact that so much time has passed so quickly
weak river
Eight years does seem like a pretty bizarre amount of time when you think about it, for sure.
Certainly doesn't feel like it's been that long.
fresh bane
BOTW is also over half a decade ago too
weak river
Wait, really?
unreal idol
I feel old too
weak river
Wow.
Honestly, I think that catches me off guard more than the MGSV release date.
Curse you, time. Stop moving.
fresh bane
In a couple months BOTW is going to be 7 years old, that's a whole ass child right there
flint iron
Just multiply the amount of time between the release of botw to now by 5 and we will all be 40 years older 
quartz pawn
I got two new WIXOSS decks and one of them is Nijisanji.
mossy flume
Cat mocap sounds like a nightmare
random steppe
I am amazed that they aren't rolling on the ground and biting at the sensor the whole fucking time
They must have found the 5 cats in the world that wouldn't do that
fresh bane
sharing in case anyone else might be interested too, I had recently bought Bomb Rush so I didn't want to buy another game so soon but since I had talked about Blasphemous recently and said I might play it it's pretty cheap so I might get it 
dapper cedar
i watched a friend play through Disco Elysium, very interesting game though not one I would have played myselfā¦ just aināt the genre for me
fresh bane
Disco Elysium is beautiful
river veldt
i watched a friend play through Disco Elysium, very interesting game though not ...
yeah i tried it out on my Switch and couldn't get into it :(
fresh bane
I know I don't have the focus and attention span to play that game, I would probably forget everything and would need to read every line of dialogue like 3 times to really process all the info and that's not great for a game that is all entirely about dialogue and characters
But watching a streamer play it was a good experience for me and even though it wasn't me playing I had a good time and it's one of the most beautiful games I've seen
dapper cedar
unfortunately got to a point with it where by the end the only two audio sliders that were up were for the voiceover and UI sounds
it is a cool universe but sound wise i donāt think iāve seen a game so uniquely anxiety inducing
uneven epoch
its a really good game, i gotta finish my hacked playthrough
river veldt
hacker person
fresh bane
It sucks that the development history of that game is a bit troubled with a lot of tension between the creatives and the executives which ended up in them pretty much having their company ''stolen'' from them and the game too which was an ongoing situation until now which was pretty unfortunate
Seems like you can't have amazing games like this without a touch of misery in there
dapper cedar
aye Iām told the sequel might not be something to look forward to
uneven epoch
i changed the values so all my skills are buffed to high heavens. i would never in a million years recommend it for a first playthrough, but given this is third time i want to see all the passive checks trigger. its been really fun time when ur already familiar with the game
fresh bane
I wouldn't go that far I really don't know all I know is it's not bad to be aware in case anyone doesn't want to support that, although it's not as black and white of a situation as it may seem as the minds behind Disco were kind of.... assholes
It's a messy situation, there's an entire documentary about it on YT that went in depth about both sides of what happened which was pretty interesting
dapper cedar
i was sold on it by the incredible narration, and the very concept of the thought cabinet
didnāt anticipate just how long the game would go on for tho, thatās probably part of why I donāt get much enjoyment from RPGs of any sortā¦ theyāre a lot to get through
think Iām more of a whatās relatively quick, fast paced, and fun to replay? kind of hors
fresh bane
In the current state that it is I know it's probably not a game I could play even though I find it to be one of the most beautiful and fun experiences, even less in its original release state where there was no dialogue voice acting whatsoever, it's incredible to think the game got so much recognition and awards without the narrators' and Kim's voices
It's a game made for people who are into these types of games and it makes sense it's so focused on that stuff considering the entire concept was from a novel that didn't seem to have sold all that well unfortunately
dapper cedar
almost forgot the primary reason we started doing the game in the first place, a late game scene i will not dive deep into, but I will say itās friendās favorite moment in anything
fresh bane
We have an entire channel on Disco we made not that long ago when Ixrec was going through it I think
we talked about it a lot there
dapper cedar
oooh Iāll need to check that out, definitely have got a lot of thoughts though being such a big game theyāll be very in and out
fresh bane
the one moment that was a highlight for me and I want to say Ixrec too was || the conversation with Harry's ex-wife ||
and || the phone call || too was particularly tough
uneven epoch
its haard to pick a favorite moment. you've got ||bear fridge, dropkicking fascist, megarich lightbending guy, sitting on the swings, the dance-off with kim, the tribunal, the phasmid.|| all such cool stuff
i dont really know which one i like the most
fresh bane
yeah || the swings || was a really nice moment... just a moment, but it was nice
the fucking || megarich lightbending guy || 
so stupid
I love that whenever you're in that area || your money actually goes super high up as if you automatically get more valuable just by being around him ||
it's a fun detail
such wild concepts in that game it's what makes it special, and then it pulls you back to reality with the super real situations
weak river
I like how every conversation about Disco Elysium in this chat looks like a declassified CIA document.
uneven epoch
i love that you can get money from him by ||proposing a plan so purposefully bad it circles around into a successful outcome||
this may sound silly in grand scheme of things but my favorite may actually be whenever visual calculus goes off. the child me that loved crimi shows eats that shit up i love the change in artstyle for them
best skill forever, sorry volition
fresh bane
i love that you can get money from him by ||proposing a plan so purposefully bad...
I fucking love that
|| to purposefuly choose a very bad plan and then failing the check for that bad plan so it ends up being a good plan || is nothing short of genius absurdity 
uneven epoch
tis just the game mechanic workin as intended really
but i love it exactly for that
the ||kim dance-off|| may still beat it though
quiet swift
That's hard to beat
proud warren
quiet swift
Mine
uneven epoch
alas i only have a screenshot with mine
(yeah i managed to get the jackets durin that playthrough it was great)
slim thorn
the fucking || megarich lightbending guy || <:rdsnrk:587780329335422977>
I actually never got that and had to hear about it on youtube later
apparently every ideology has its own sidequest and I ignored all of them to focus on the case even though I thought I was doing a lot of sidequests
quiet swift
I got the jackets on my playthrough but never even considered ||opening the shipping container|| and never met the guy at all. When I brought my laptop and visited my dad a few months ago, he and his girlfriend played this (I got them hooked, lol), and they did discover him 
not sure how i missed it first time
uneven epoch
apparently every ideology has its own sidequest and I ignored _all_ of them to f...
its not an ideology one, its a hard check
fresh bane
the trick is to savescum until you can get it open
oh wow these patch notes are huge
sure hope I don't accidentally get spoiled reading through these
flint iron
Having patch notes thats says things like
-Fixed the visuals of "Insert important character" death cutscene in the finale of the game
fresh bane
I didn't read all of it just in case 
but there were a lot of patch notes there
probably piled up since the first patch up until the last one since it's the first time I open the game
this map is so Metroid
well this is gonna be the first metroidvania I play after Return of Samus like over a year ago now so let's see how I like it
good pixel art, very nice
oh boss fight already right, people did say this feels like a souls game
fickle garnet
slim thorn
Nire's playing it 
slim thorn
oh boss fight already <:opaLOLine:1116739543811510365> right, people did say thi...
just in case waking up on a pile of corpses suspiciously similar to yourself wasn't soulsy enough already
fickle garnet
I would contemplate buying Blasphemous but i have too many games to play
slim thorn
fwiw, as far as tone, setting and story go, Blasphemous is probably closer to Dark Souls than any of the other Metroidvanias I've played; even Ender Lilies will occasionally let two characters just have a normal, non-cryptic conversation
fickle garnet
I still need to finish FFXVI
slim thorn
(I've also been told before that Salt & Sanctuary is the most Soulslike as far as gameplay goes, but I haven't tried that one yet)
fickle garnet
And Dead Island 2
slim thorn
this map is so Metroid <:rdlol:588652359643824128>
oh right, biggest difference from actual Metroid maps: you can put markers on this map
I regretted not doing from the start in my initial playthrough, it makes it so much easier to find things again after you get that one ability you need to reach it
fresh bane
well I died a bunch of times already and reached the point of ignoring some enemies as to not unnecessarily waste HP/estus flasks so it definitely feels like home already
fresh bane
Nire's playing it <:ajgasp:399725081229524992>
I've wanted to ever since it dropped but didn't have money at the time and since the second one came out and the first one was like 5 bucks I thought why not :sunsetbounce:
I'm having fun so far
slim thorn
how far in are you
slim thorn
well I died a bunch of times already and reached the point of ignoring some enem...
yeah, even in the replay I've been doing for our archipelago game, I often skip enemies as long as I'm confident they can't gang up on me from behind (most often if I've been in the room before so I know where I'm going and how to cleanly evade)
fresh bane
hard to say when I just picked this up and have no point of reference or clue what I'm even doing I just got a little further from Albero if that's any help
I have it on spanish so names may be different
slim thorn
yep that works
probably all the important names will be obvious lol
and since it's a Metroidvania, a map screenshot is always a valid answer to that question
fresh bane
I'm having a hard time just because it's a new game and I'm getting used to the timings and how stuff works so I'm experimenting a lot and dying a lot which is kind of frustrating just because the save point is so far back but that's kinda how this works so I'm not mad
slim thorn
fresh bane
I did find a couple branching paths which makes me easily overwhelmed because I don't know where progress is or where I'm ''supposed'' to be going and I kinda freeze up when I have to choose but that's just a me thing and I did wish for some other paths since until that point it had been a hallway
slim thorn
and as you probably suspect, there is no "wrong" way to go
fresh bane
I will leave it around here just because I came into this from a session of Bomb Rush and I don't wanna spend like another 5 hours in this but I will be going through it or at least try to
I'm expecting it to be not that long of a game so hopefully my interest doesn't die down in a week and I never open up the game again
slim thorn
you'll probably have a feel for that after you reach and defeat the first non-tutorial boss
(whichever one you go for first, can be any order)
fresh bane
Well in this case the ''wrong'' way would be ''you can't access this spot/area yet'' but I do assume there's no real wrong way to go I have played Super Metroid and Metroid 2 so I have a feel for these games, at least the base foundation of a game like this anyways
I have encountered some of those flying collectables that make me think at some point I'll get either a projectile beam or an air dash mechanic that will let me get to those because I found some that I just could not reach at all and there doesn't seem to be any momentum mechanic that I'm missing where I gather up speed or slide and jump to go further
slim thorn
yep, a lot of those you have to come back for, that's one of the things I use map markers for
one of the interesting things about replaying it now is seeing which areas I struggled with originally but breezed through this time... and which ones I struggled with again despite knowing what got me last time
fresh bane
I guess I couldn't expect anything else what with it being a metroidvania it was almost immediate how I thought ''yeah I'll be coming back for you later 
''
that happened to me when replaying through the Souls games a lot of times so I can understand, sometimes it's not really about knowing what to do or look out for but just having the skill to do it, hell I would die a bunch to regular fodder enemies because I got careless or distracted despite having like 100 hours in the game
I also liked the presentation of the game a lot the few cutscenes I saw so far and just the overall look is very good 
very epic
music is good too, so far everything has been pretty nice
slim thorn
mm-hmm, I may not be able to explain the story in concrete terms but it has a very strong aesthetic identity
even the few parts that I avoid looking at directly 
feel like they belong in this world and I'm just being squeamish
fresh bane
there's so much shameless gore
but it fits with the dark medieval fantasy setting/aesthetic
I mean one of the first things Penitente does is fill up the helmet with the blood of the boss and put it back on
that's pretty metal
slim thorn
calling it metal makes me imagine him doing that and then striking a victory pose
fresh bane
gaunt marten
You should avoid bullying people
cedar badge
But it's fun smacking people with lines.
Speaking of, I had one of those matches with attackers bonus near the end and uh...
Absolute carnage.
thorny loom
Lmao its finally releasing https://youtu.be/D6b6LGubq6I?si=OF3GCR_1nokyn_WK
Only took completely switching dev teams
wind stump
Ooh, TH19 seems to have been fully translated
dire gate
nice, give me a review, I kinda want one
quiet swift
TH19?
thorny loom
Tohouh 19 probably
wind stump
nice, give me a review, I kinda want one
This is best girl
that's all you need to know
quiet swift
green fulcrum
quiet swift
Spitting absolute facts there
mossy flume
Truth
rancid herald
that'd be interesting, really. a UFO aircombat game
quiet swift
Wing Commander?
rancid herald
ufo aircombat
WING commander
Get out.
fresh bane
that would be the saddest way to find out aliens are a thing
fresh bane
This is best girl
that's all you need to know
the new girl 
I love her design
She's gotten so much fanart as soon as the game dropped
fresh bane
Lmao its finally releasing https://youtu.be/D6b6LGubq6I?si=OF3GCR_1nokyn_WK
wait they switched dev teams? why?
Did it get a full overhaul as a game or just a new team?
man I hope it lives up to the hype, making a game like vampires bloodlines is not fucking easy and making one that's better without sacrificing what made that game so incredible is even harder
I seriously hope it's good
green fulcrum
@mossy flume MIDNIGHT! LAUNCH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mQacGNeNVA
mossy flume
<@98605232707080192> MIDNIGHT! LAUNCH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mQacGNeN...
AAAAAAAAAA
Grabbed a copy before the Lego Group DMCAs this 
green fulcrum
I mean, they didn't grab it at all in the several years that it's been under development, and the developer has been careful to make it clear that none of it is for profit.
Hell, he even got the original composer for the game on board with it.
white phoenix
that is really cool
green fulcrum
Either way, I grabbed a copy of it too
white phoenix
passion truly takes people on the wildest journeys
I think the lego group doesn't even know it exists yet, that's why
mossy flume
I wouldnāt quite make that assumption. Nintendo didnāt DMCA AM2R for the ten years it was in the works until they hit 1.0, then it was DMCAād within hours.
green fulcrum
And the developer has said that after he's done taking a break for a while, he's going to create an "act 2" campaign, with completely new levels and a completely new story.
It's been out for 3 weeks
white phoenix
I wouldnāt quite make that assumption. Nintendo didnāt DMCA AM2R for the ten yea...
Uh, wow
green fulcrum
I think the game is safe, since it's been out for the large part of a month
fresh bane
man this fight took a second, I had a hard time until the point where I realized ''oh I should probably be hitting the guy that's trying to kill me with my sword instead of running away''
peak mesa
Grabbed a copy before the Lego Group DMCAs this <:nerdbat:907659764719296572>
Lego like Nintendo is a DMCA machine, and will (of course) go after fan created content.
They took down a Garryās Mod addon which changes Half-Life 2 characters to their Legofied forms.
slim thorn
man this fight took a second, I had a hard time until the point where I realized...
congrats 
I forget how long / how many tries it originally took me to beat Ten Piedad, but it was definitely a while
that was also my first non-tutorial boss so a lot of it was just getting a feel for how bosses worked
I think the biggest sticking point was figuring out when sliding would get me to the other side of the boss instead of just bumping into it
fresh bane
I didn't like how often/easily he would corner you and how unclear it would be when and when you can't slide through, I think after a bit I figured it out sort of but it's still pretty unclear because there's not a very big visual cue and it's mostly just the one or two attacks that let you do it
right now I'm battling against an entire acid area which feels like this game's swamp area and i'm not loving it 
I also got the health upgrade which had a pretty dope cutscene on it
cool stuff
slim thorn
mm-hmm, everyone remembers the health upgrade NPC (in both games)
fair, Desecrated Cistern is a bit of a slog until you get one or both of the relics that help there, you can always leave it for later
fresh bane
She doesn't show up in there but I also got the npc summon for that fight though she didn't really help out that much
slim thorn
indeed
fresh bane
I don't even know where to go so I just kind of went into the next immediate area which was this one and I guess I'm just doing it now
slim thorn
I think the first few times I originally did that fight I couldn't even tell if she was helping
turns out it just takes her long enough to cast her heal that every time I got that low I was dying immediately afterward, until I got gud
fresh bane
She calls out to me and I thought she'd drop an item or something, maybe health potions but she just casts a healing spell that takes forever and by the time she's done I'm already pummeled to death 
slim thorn
when I redid that fight the other day for our archipelago she was useful almost immediately because I still half-remembered most of Ten Piedad's attacks (and I had no flask upgrades )
fresh bane
it's a good heal it just takes a while and the first few tries since I was still learning what to even do in the fight it was pretty useless
slim thorn
yep
fresh bane
by the time I got the hang of it I wasn't getting hit enough times to really need it
I just smashed a potion into my face and that was enough
slim thorn
I wish I had some deep lore explanation for why smashing it on your face is how you use the heals but 
river veldt
that hat looks very inconvineient
slim thorn
other than, well, you can't drink anything without removing that silly mask
fresh bane
It's a low res gif so you can't see it but in the game I sort of caught Penitente drawing a little sigil into the mask with the liquid so maybe it's some sort of healing rune or symbol
river veldt
oh it's a mask
slim thorn
mask, hat, neither's wrong
slim thorn
it is one big conical metal thing he puts on his head
fresh bane
The hat is based off of the Sambenito
the mask looks like some sort of roman inspired mask
slim thorn
oooh that makes a lot of sense
fresh bane
it may also be based off of another catholic headwear that if I post here people will probably think looks very problematic
But the name is Capirote
river veldt
oh
slim thorn
makes sense
river veldt
do people still wear those
slim thorn
ah and on this wiki article is that funny "confraternity" word, which I hadn't heard until Blasphemous 2
hasty patio
Mostly for religious reasons and during certain events/ceremonies. You'll see it more in Spain during Easter/Lent.
fresh bane
It's a uniform
slim thorn
I see what you mean
hasty patio
The running joke elsewhere is that Blasphemous is "Catholic Guilt: The Game", with some changes to make it fit the universe.
river veldt
what kinda game is Blaspehmous
slim thorn
though I guess half the premise of Blasphemous' aesthetic is that it's not hard to see creepiness in a lot of this stuff
quartz pawn
Blasphemous is a souls metroidvania.
river veldt
i see
slim thorn
Blasphemous is a Metroidvania Soulslike known primarily for its visuals, story and setting being heavily inspired by Catholic culture
river veldt
i like the aesthetic
slim thorn
the sequel came out just 1.5 weeks ago, and shortly after finishing it I started a Blasphemous 1 randomizer as part of Flitter's September Archipelago game, and now Nire's playing Blasphemous for the first time, so I've been particularly immersed in it lately
river veldt
is the second good
slim thorn
both are excellent
river veldt
would i like them
river veldt
hmm
gaunt marten
Do you like Dead Cells?
river veldt
ive never played it
slim thorn
I've also never played Dead Cells lol
gaunt marten
Good because they're not that similar
slim thorn
if the goal is to try other Metroidvanias, I'd recommend some less punishing ones first
river veldt
im saving my money for other games right now
river veldt
i played Metroid Dread does that count
gaunt marten
No, Metroid Dread lacks Vania
slim thorn
Blasphemous is definitely in the "each boss taking 10+ tries is totally normal and you will learn to enjoy all the dying" category of difficulty
mossy flume
Ori is very good. 
slim thorn
Ori and actual Metroids are much more forgiving
river veldt
hmm
well i'll keep it on my radar, saving my money for Batman Arkham Trilogy on Switch and Super Mario Bros Wonder right now
slim thorn
I'm sure you'd enjoy the aesthetic because it's visually striking, and especially with Doom it's clear you don't mind if it gets quite gruesome at times
mossy flume
Also has one of the most beautiful soundtracks in recent games
slim thorn
but the Dooms (on normal difficulty) are also much more forgiving of new players
mossy flume
And it is fairly challenging at times
astral steeple
river veldt
im just looking for a game to fill up my September
fresh bane
they're kinda creepy
There's a lot of reasons why the Capirote looks like that, the short of it is that it's the same as the Sambenito in the sense that it's a hat that was used as punishment during the spanish inquisition for those who commited crimes and were in the act of penance but this one was covered as to protect the identities of the penitent ones (yes they're called that it can't get any more obvious), the pointy shape of it is also supposedly that way as to connect the penitent one closer to heaven
and it has different lengths depending on the brotherhood in each area of spain and the colors also mean different things āļø
slim thorn
well that's part of why we're giving you all this detail instead of a simple "yes" or "no"
only you can decide if this sounds right for you
river veldt
yeah
slim thorn
for all I know the aesthetic vibing with you means any amount of hard-but-technically-fair difficulty will be a non-issue
river veldt
the thing is that Blasphemous sounds a lot like Hollow Knight which i didn't like
slim thorn
in terms of game design, they are very similar yes
but we've established before that sometimes you like and dislike mechanically extremely similar games for non-mechanical reasons, and that's fine of course
river veldt
yeah
slim thorn
whereas I'm the type that will probably eventually try anything which can reasonably be called a soulslike metroidvania (and many of the other metroidvanias)
river veldt
have you played Symphony of the Night
fresh bane
speaking of the aesthetics
slim thorn
not exactly
river veldt
WHAT THE HELL ITS A FACE
why does he have a face on his abdomen
or they i guess i shouldn't assume
gaunt marten
Welcome to Blasphemous
slim thorn
For twisted are the ways of the Miracle
part of the logic of Blasphemous' world is that half the named NPCs caught a bad case of divine "fuck you in particular"
river veldt
oh
fresh bane
I love that the guy is like ''oh god what have I done to deserve this cruel punishment oh sweet merciful heavens oh, hey dude, bring me this thing and I'll power you up man ''
gaunt marten
His chest face sprouts a second, smaller face on the chin
fresh bane
I wouldn't expect anything less from a soulslike that actually seems to really do take a lot of the souls vibe and put it in the game
in Souls virtually every NPC you meet ends up having a horrible end and most of the times it's because of you š«µ
slim thorn
and in Blasphemous they have a habit of thanking you for it
slim thorn
I also like how the first speaking character in the game basically says "Just as your penance is to be a silent protagonist, mine is to give you directions. Now go thataway."
fresh bane
thataway being the only way you can even advance anyways /s
I don't even know what my guy is doing penance for maybe I didn't fully catch it at the beginning or it's still not really explained so far I only really get a vague understanding of what's even happening
so it's just like souls
slim thorn
yup
some characters have a clearly stated thing they're being punished for but a lot of them seem to be so far past whatever it was that it almost doesn't matter any more
even after getting every ending in both games and half-replaying one, and genuinely liking every ending, I couldn't tell you in clear, concrete terms wtf actually happens in any of them
fresh bane
oooh the collectables actually have a purpose (I think)
slim thorn
iirc every item you can pick up has some purpose, even if you end up not using it because e.g. it's a bead/prayer/heart you don't like as much as the other beads/prayers/hearts
fresh bane
yeah this is starting to look a lot more metroid-like by the minute
slim thorn
I was just about to ask if you were saying that because you found the ossuary
fresh bane
mostly just how many shortcuts I got and how it's all connected and stuff
slim thorn
I meant the collectibles part but yeah lots of map connections too
fresh bane
also the way the map is drawn and all reminds me of Metroid a lot too
slim thorn
true, these colored square tiles are the most Metroid-y map of my usual Metroidvanias shortlist
fresh bane
slim thorn
Hollow Knight and Guacamelee and Ori and Ender Lilies all draw their ingame maps differently
yeah that one you're probably gonna want to stick a map marker on
fresh bane
ez
mossy flume
On an unrelated note, if anyone wants a very LGBTQ game, I've been assured that Goodbye Volcano High is very good and feelsy without being token-y.
slim thorn
oh yeah, I think you have more health than I did when I got here yesterday in my rando
fresh bane
The only health upgrade I got so far that I noticed was one but I don't know by how much it actually increased
I'm so ready for this poison map to be over
slim thorn
oh yeah fair, those droplets are unique to cistern
fresh bane
Oooooh I think I know where I got that third potion from
I found a glass thing and I probably filled it up in this blood fountain thing
I put the thing in the thing
slim thorn
...oh, right, there's a blood fountain in the cistern
oh well I've already found two other blood fountains in my game so too late now lol
slim thorn
yeah nope
ā¦I mean yeah nah
sometimes you just have to live with the guilt ~~until you find a magical guilt-cleansing- 
~~
river veldt
ok well
fresh bane
I have a plan, it might just be crazy enough to work
river veldt
ive natrowed it down to 2 games i want. the Disney Aladdin and Lion King collection and Tunic
slim thorn
are you gonna try to get the guilt fragment then move a little to the right before dying so itās easier next time?
slim thorn
Iām not sure whether I actually did that, or just considered it and gave up lol
fresh bane
I got it
probably can't see it but I wasn't gonna risk dying in the toxic cloud again just to get the screenshot of the text
my plan worked I'm a genius
now I know to never come back to this area again ever /s
slim thorn
nah I can still see that your fervour bar no longer has guilt
fresh bane
I want to think I will get some sort of poison resist or something because otherwise I dont' know how I'm ever supposed to get through this part
slim thorn
||you will, 2-4 areas later||
gaunt marten
More health
slim thorn
conveniently youāve already been told how many health upgrades there are
fresh bane
I can't say I remember
slim thorn
I suspect there is a combination of upgrades and equipment that lets you cheese this, but half of it would be late game stuff anyway
||no oneās found my poison immunity in rando yet so Iāve been thinking about it||
gaunt marten
You should hint for it
slim thorn
not until itās actually important
fresh bane
I have to donate to church?
green fulcrum
I have to donate to church? <:rdlol:588652359643824128>
Well, you know what they say: "As a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs."
AKA: possibly the very first tagline ad for scam artistry.
grave tide
sonic dune
I fucking hate sentinels
sonic dune
Getting the first three people working on your base is funny as you learn the lore
Like
A guy who's part of the race that's basically just space Nazis tells me to go hire a guy who's part of the race that specifically wages wars to eliminate all weapons, (because of what the space Nazis did) and hire him to make weapons for me
And in-between them is another guy I hired who's just spiraling mentally because they got banned from their race's server so now they're hyperfixating on their research
Ok I should clarify they're former space Nazis
But they do still think they're the master race of space, so not great
arctic fern
No man sky?
sonic dune
No Man's Sky
I know this tends to be robot characters in general with sci-fi but the research entity I hired gives me big neurodivergent energy and I want to protect them at all costs
arctic fern
Fair enough
sonic dune
Dude goes from wildly excited to see me and tell me about their research to a full on mental breakdown because they found a weird signal interfering with the tech they refer to as their baby
I know a guy exactly like this irl but it's a trans man with autism and a plant hyperfixation
... how do Korvax reproduce?
I'm starting to wonder if like, they're gonna develop the beacon until it's sentient and then build it a Korvax body
I have found the answer and it's no
When a Korvax dies it's just their... uh... soul? I guess?
They die but their body is just fine so a new entity appears within the casing immediately after
Also a cast system, kinda
Is there a NMS ttrpg?
quiet swift
random steppe
Yeah no one is surprised, it's pretty obvious that acting dumb about it was in the contract they signed with Sony for the timed exclusive too
quiet swift
Indeed
wind stump
This boss in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax makes me want to burn down Arc System Works
You can't block them, they have a huge attack boost on an already strong character (Shadow Labrys, though I don't know how strong she is normally because I don't play her), has a INSANE SP boost so she can spam special attacks
and
she nullifies your abilities
the thing that makes Golden Arena unique
so you're stuck with a basic character while dealing with God Itself with the AI cranked to Fuck You 
rotund forge
I'm doing it today, I'm redownloading a hat in time
I haven't played in roughly 2 years
teal sonnet
I would like to get this
this statue looks awesome af
but WHY THE GAME DIGITAL
YOU SELL A STEEL CASE
WITHOUT
A FUCKING DISK
IT IS JUST CENTS A FUCKING DISK
teal sonnet
https://twitter.com/PlayStationUK/status/1698682466494517563
also this tweet is sussy af
quiet swift
wind stump
is this slay the spire or touhou i can't tell anymore
quartz pawn
por que no los dos?
river veldt
Venom
white phoenix
marketing
mossy flume
IT IS JUST CENTS A FUCKING DISK
The game would have to be installed onto the console's hard drive anyway and discs are a medium that degrades over time or can be damaged.
sonic dune
I'd say "Discs also mean companies can't take away what you already bought if they ever remove it for some reason" but that's not true anymore afaik
mossy flume
Yeah, discs don't have all the data anymore, just a large chunk of it
river veldt
that's lame as hell tbh
wind stump
fresh bane
I'd say "Discs also mean companies can't take away what you already bought if th...
Considering P.T ever since it got removed doesnt allow you to install it/download it again I wouldn't say that this isn't true anymore, Konami also keeps blocking anyone who is trying to transfer P.T to their PS5s from doing so
river veldt
lame as hell
slim thorn
I'm confused, I thought PT was only ever downloadable and never had a disc-based release?
fresh bane
the one thing I will give Nintendo props for is still using cartridges and physical media to some degree despite the fact that they're god awful and actively harmful against videogame preservation
fresh bane
I'm confused, I thought PT was only ever downloadable and never had a disc-based...
It's an example of game companies being able to take away something you've already got in your library
I'm sure not everyone would've had P.T installed in their system, but I'm damn sure they would've liked to still own it despite Konami taking it down from the stores
sonic dune
Yeah it started as me saying disc would prevent this but we have proof of the contrary
Nire is just referencing the most well known example of a game getting pulled and people losing access
slim thorn
still, for games old enough that cartridges or discs still actually contained the entire game, rom files are much better at preserving the game and being easily distributed and replayed than the original cartridges or discs anyway
fresh bane
in context it sounded like a pro-discs argument
that's because it is, at least I meant it as an argument for discs or any other form of physical media which is why I brought up Nintendo
unrelated but take a look at this feller 
teal sonnet
The game would have to be installed onto the console's hard drive anyway and dis...
I want my console going
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
spinning that thingy FAST
even if there is nothing there
I want that 99c plastic
on that fucking steelcase
there is a physical version
with a disk
WHY NOT IN THE COLLECTIONS EDITION
slim thorn
iiuc what's important for preservation is the game having a DRM-free (and for multiplayer self-hostable) form of some kind, which doesn't really have anything to do with discs (and honestly discs are just less convenient in every way than rom files)
teal sonnet
if I can afford a fucking collection edition
I can afford another game years later if the fucking thing breaks
slim thorn
the bigger issue these days is that the shift from physical to digital distribution has been accompanied by a bunch of DRM and live service nonsense that makes many games inherently unpreserveable, without heroic modding efforts, regardless of disc status
teal sonnet
an empty steel case is just sad
slim thorn
at least self-hosting I can understand not being a standard thing because it does require extra work, while DRM is something you could "just not do" to begin with
slim thorn
it's also worth noting that I haven't had a disc drive on my personal or work computers for several years now
teal sonnet
just keeps getting more wild
slim thorn
that was such a poorly worded tweet
white phoenix
or genius
teal sonnet
I say genius
slim thorn
true
white phoenix
engagement is probably through the roof
fresh bane
I'm not even arguing about it from a preservation point of view I'm just generally for physical media not necessarily as the only option digital can be an option too but I don't ''agree'' with physical media dying out
slim thorn
oh that issue
sorry I'm used to preservation being the argument for physical games because... well I've yet to hear any other
sour hill
Physical media is nice for reselling/trading
teal sonnet
fresh bane
I also think there's no point in physical if they don't actually sell you a physical way to play the game by your own but that's getting more into it and I was just sort of making a passing comment for physical media when they were talking about it earlier
slim thorn
with video games there kinda never was a physical version of the game itself, even with discs it was always software and the disc was a mere delivery mechanism into the box that runs the software
teal sonnet
If anything if there is a version that needs to come with a disk is the collectors edition
because it is just to collect it
slim thorn
yeah, I think everyone agrees that the many discs which are only glorified DRM keys are pointless, at least once they're aware of that fact
teal sonnet
I am literally buying this ver just to look pretty on my table
idc if the disk have nothing on it
I just want pretty
slim thorn
lol, fair enough
river veldt
19 inches of Venom
mossy flume
sorry I'm used to preservation being the argument for physical games because... ...
The common one is about ownership
Which again discs don't actually save you from
It's a legal framework that's been in place for like thirty years
slim thorn
right, this topic is riddled with arguments that don't even make sense, it's often hard to tell what's even being claimed
mossy flume
But yeah, preservation is the more pertinent issue, IMO
Which as you say is ultimately a DRM problem
river veldt
drunk Raimi movies
random steppe
I just realised
The guy that decides the publishing at Larian Games is fucking competent
mossy flume
Yep
random steppe
Releasing BG3 on PS5 right as Starfield is not releasing on their platform is so smart
"So I heard you wanted to play a certain RPG but you can't, we just happen to release our acclaimed RPG on the same day"
mossy flume
I noticed that too.
white phoenix
huh, that's calculated, isn't it
mossy flume
Which makes sense given that the decision to delay the PS5 version was done only a handful of months ago
mossy flume
I noticed that a few weeks ago.
Larian Games just coming out of nowhere here to school the industry. And they didn't need to pour much money into advertising to do it.
slim thorn
it's nice when the ruthless capitalist jackal move happens to also be a win for consumers lol
mossy flume
Starfield had a LOT of money poured into its marketing, it's kinda insane what they did for it
random steppe
It's funny because usually the game publishing arm of the industry seem comically incompetent
Often the same publishing house releases 2 titles that actively compete with each other the same week
mossy flume
Yeah, publishers stumble so badly at times it sometimes feels malicious or just completely and utterly disconnected from the heartbeat of the market.
river veldt
are Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 good
mossy flume
I never played them
random steppe
Good but hard to get into
Lots of mechanics, very complicated games, and they are definitely dated
BG3 is definitely the most beginner friendly of the D&D titles because it uses the simplest D&D ruleset so far, which helps
slim thorn
I'm content with having watched a long youtube video essay about BG1
fresh bane
I noticed that a few weeks ago. <:twimerp:751142908236922950>
Larian Games just...
it turns out, when your game is really good and you put a lot of effort into it, it just markets itself by word of mouth and how crazy people go over your game being good (not a full substitute for actual marketing of course)
random steppe
It worked for Hollow Knight, eventually
slim thorn
most of the bug types are vague and/or unspecified
honestly I have no idea what any of the knights are
random steppe
For releasing 1 month within Horizon Zero Dawn, BOTW and Nier Automata, it took a while before it crawled out of the ashes, but it got there
mossy flume
Yeah. There's the whole thing where a bunch of devs came out loudly proclaiming "BG3 is an anomaly and should not be used as a new standard" and while they do have a point to a degree, a game like BG3 is a nightmare to build and takes an eternity to do right, it's valid to consider BG3 a new benchmark nonetheless. You don't need to make every game a D&D 5e game, but BG3 still brings a lot of universal lessons to the table that every dev and publisher should be looking hard at and learning from.
A game like that which came out with no microtransactions and yet still came with deep customization and rich, rich, rich content and few bugs? Yeah, that's a much needed slap to the face for the industry.
slim thorn
I feel like all of the things we've been complaining about publishers doing or not doing for decades are all complaints they're extremely familiar with, and this won't actually change anything because they'd see BG3 as in some ways an unrepeatable anomaly and in other ways confirmation that familiar brands with established audiences sell
mossy flume
Unfortunately I agree.
random steppe
Shout out to Armored Core 6 which came out right after and, even if you don't like the genre, you gotta admit, From is putting out microtransaction free feature complete games and it's not stopping.
slim thorn
speaking of familiar brands with established audiences
(even if most people know Fromsoft better than Armored Core)
mossy flume
Further, they're also single-player-heavy experiences.
BG3 does multi, absolutely
But you don't HAVE to to get the full experience
random steppe
The multiplayer for AC6 is actually really good too.
I'd say better than the souls game multiplayer but it doesn't take much
mossy flume
AC6 has multi? TIL
random steppe
Yeah, supports up to 3v3
And the netcode is really solid, for what I heard, I couldn't care less about it
But it's nice it's there, for the people that like it
rose rose
Every time I launch BG3 there is a big "pay us more money" button above the smaller "play the game" button
It takes a moment to find the button I want.
It is not a design choice I love.
mossy flume
Oh right, I forgot about that
green fulcrum
Every time I launch BG3 there is a big "pay us more money" button above the smal...
You could've just pre-bought the game while it was in early access a day before release and got all of that extra content for free. 
Either way, it's nothing critical. The game is still complete without it.
Most people got it for the art book.
quiet swift
I'm mostly annoyed it's still showing it despite me already having it 
green fulcrum
Yeah, that I'll admit is a little weird.
Like, I think it's fine to have a button there on the launcher, but not right where the play button is. Put it somewhere else and it wouldn't be an issue.
mossy flume
Yep, it shows it even if you did preorder or otherwise already bought the upgrade. Which is just another reason why secondary launchers like this when you're already using a launcher like Steam are super dumb.
light gate
Its not dumb to them because its their own proprietary ecosystem, they even have their own account system. Same thing with how EA and Ubi did back in the day, all their gardens.
Everyone desires Steamās dominance.
I wonder if BG3ās mac port is any good.
Iām becoming slowly interested.
visual hill
use --skip-launcher launch option, same as CDPR's launcher
or was it --launcher-skip? Probably the former
fresh bane
aaand that's 100% on Bomb Rush
and I think for the first time I got a bunch of cheevos under 10% so I get to feel special about it too 
river veldt
have you guys played Vampire Survivors
random steppe
I played Vampire Survivors, it's pretty good if you like that genre
I don't mind the genre but it was kind of enough for me, I don't feel the need to play other games in the genre or the DLCs from it
But I did finish VS
random steppe
Kindaaa
In the sense that the progression is kinda roguelike
In general it's a top down game in which you just move your dude, all attacks happens automatically and the only input you have is the direction you go.
Then you level and pick different weapons that have different attack patterns, you pick passives, can evolve some of your weapons, etc....
And every run you start from zero, but unlock new characters, new levels, and new weapons, so yeah the progression is very roguelike, while the gameplay it's kinda its own thing
river veldt
that's cool
yeah im watching Jerma play it right bow
now
hmm i might buy it tomorrow
it's only 5 dollars
random steppe
Yeah the pricepoint is pretty low, and if you don't end up liking it you can always at least be happy that you gave 5 bucks to a very pro trans gaming dev.
The whole bestiary was writen by Stephanie Sterling
weak river
Apparently it's a very good Steam Deck game, if you have one of those.
random steppe
It's pretty good on mobile too
quiet swift
It caused a boom in that genre of game too. But yeah, 5$ and i think 4 more for both DLCs is a damn good price
Let's see, I also have... Brotato, 20 minutes till dawn, Rogue: Genesia, Disfigure, Halls of Torment
gaunt marten
It's a great new genre
dire gate
I have VS, Brotato, Boneraiser, and Holocure
gaunt marten
Boneraiser Minions is my favorite
dire gate
Cool game
quiet swift
Halls is pretty polished. Genesia needs some more work but the dev is adding a lot to it
Disfigure is a bit of an odd one
Oh and it's free
gaunt marten
Rogue Genesia suffers from a lot of bad decisions
quiet swift
Though the dev does have a 5$ dlc that's basically just 'ya know if ya liked it for free, pay for the dlc"
dire gate
Holocure is also free, the only problem is it being vtuber-weeb
quiet swift
wind stump
The price is YOUR SOUL
little badger
young creek
jesus
slim thorn
I knew it was successful but damn
slim thorn
that's what makes it surprising
young creek
Have you guys seen the aristo cats
thorny loom
Fair enough yeah
thorny loom
Have you guys seen the aristo cats
Yes
young creek
nice
thorny loom
Everybody wants to be a cat after all
sage iris
Theres alot of movies about cats
"Cats" flashbacks 
thorny loom
Nice
graceful bridge
Twitch drop for Cult of the Lamb is live. Couple of camp decorations, it looks like.
visual hill
DLSS support on PC
PureDark: Nooooooooo!
(a lot of their Patreon subs are from Jedi Survivor players)
thorny loom
Oh yeah him
He tried paywalling his starfield mod and it already got cracked lmao https://www.pcgamer.com/a-dollar5-starfield-mod-to-enable-dlss-frame-generation-has-been-cracked-to-remove-modders-drm/
gaunt marten
Well if someone pirates the mod they probably can pirate the game
wind stump
I don't understand the morality of
will pay $70 to a massive billion dollar company
won't pay $5 to an indipendant modder making the product better out of their own free time
mfer just pay the 5 bucks or just stfu and pirate Starfield
white phoenix
It's more about the precedent of mods generally being free
yeah, he probably should get some money for it
but that's the way it goes
visual hill
charging for a mod is in legally gray area
static bluff
Wasn't it Fallout 4 that tried to charge for mods?
visual hill
(you're not allowed to mod the game as per its EULA!)
wind stump
I mean, I hope the dude doesn't get sued like some commenters say they should
for a $5 mod anyway
white phoenix
Wasn't it Fallout 4 that tried to charge for mods?
yeah, think it was creation club along with skyrim
that trailer had a ton of downvotes
wind stump
I'm sorry Gamersā¢ļø about your $5 paywall mod but that's not like
Suitible reason to wish the guy financial ruin
visual hill
Valve had a hand in that too IIRC
static bluff
DLSS will be supported in the base game eventually anyway so while I'm all about supporting independent developers, I don't support spending money on something you'll get for free.
wind stump
Yeah, it's a bit of a mess and maybe they should have made it free and made like a tip system
Like itch.io or something
but like
independant creators gotta eat too, y'know
Alas, alas
visual hill
last time for me was like 5 years ago
mossy flume
Yeah, charging for mods regardless of how good or useful your mod is is deeply scummy imo
static bluff
i dunno about that as a general rule. Some of those mods that completely overhaul how Minecraft looks, for example, seem worthy of a few bucks.
but like
it's all ethically very debatable so you do you, lol
mossy flume
My take is that you can set up a donation page, that's entirely reasonable, but a paywall?
It's already a legally gray area to begin with
static bluff
Legal issues notwithstanding, charging for work done that others want to benefit from seems fine. Not like they have a gun to our heads or something, i dunno. anyway I don't have a horse in this race, it's just my thoughts on the matter.
mossy flume
I guess to make it more clear, a DLSS mod is apparently not that difficult if he was able to do it in less than a day
wind stump
and in the article it points out that other people did it anyway so all this blowback is frankly
dumb
mossy flume
Yeah it's not surprising that others would've done it if it's apparently that easy
wind stump
reminds me though, maybe I should look into seeing if THCRAP has a Patreon... Those fanslators gotta eat
static bluff
Can't stop the signal
teal cliff
I think that a DLSS mod is maybe not something you should charge for because you're not making anything but I think its fair to paywall your own content if its original stuff you made for the game
but since thats a mod anyone else could also make, its not really worth it
static bluff
I think a DLSS mod is something you shouldn't pay for
mossy flume
I think that a DLSS mod is maybe not something you should charge for because you...
Yeah I think this is more like what I'm trying to express but utterly failing to put into a coherent thought
I can better understand if you're doing a massive mod and it ends up being like... your primary source of income by the sheer scale and audience of the project
And the dev wink wink okays it like how Valve tends to do sometimes
So based on the aforementioned reference to Minecraft mods, I can better understand that.
Because you're actually adding something original to the conversation.
wind stump
Ah, hmm.
I didn't know a DLSS mod was so simple.
Still don't agree with the blowback described in the article though.
Like, wishing finacnial ruin on someone because of this is very much A Dick Moveā¢ļø
mossy flume
A DLSS mod is just enabling an API
teal cliff
Ah, hmm.
I didn't know a DLSS mod was so simple.
Still don't agree with the blow...
yeah thats just Gamers(tm) overreacting
as usual
mossy flume
Ah, hmm.
I didn't know a DLSS mod was so simple.
Still don't agree with the blow...
Yeah that's overkill
wind stump
like fuckin' make one yourself instead of pitching a fit
teal cliff
or just dont download it
wind stump
Even better
teal cliff
if you wanted dlss support in the game free of hassle or charge, ask the fucking devs
its their job, not modders
wind stump
But then again, Gamersā¢ļø 
static bluff
i mean, the devs are beholdened to a publisher that signed a contract with amd
not their fault
mossy flume
if you wanted dlss support in the game free of hassle or charge, ask the fucking...
Alas, it'll be a year or two or three before official DLSS support shows up. Depends on how long of a deal AMD paid for.
teal cliff
i mean, the devs are beholdened to a publisher that signed a contract with amd
when I said "the devs" I was more referring to the companies behind the games
not indivdiual developers, I am well aware they have no decision making authority
static bluff
speculating, obviously, but i bet we see it very soon
mossy flume
Fair enough
static bluff
anyway if we don't see it i'm getting one of the x xtx x cards from not nvidia
mossy flume
But that's a crime 
static bluff
don't be jealous of my 7 evil Xs
mossy flume
I'll be jealous of your slippery smooth frames
static bluff
Did you see that chart Gamer's Nexus made on the massive increases in Xs this generation? I nearly fell out of my chair laughing
mossy flume
I didn't
static bluff
was funni
teal cliff
I wanna see it
mossy flume
I've been paying so little attention to what AMD has been doing it's kinda embarassing
teal cliff
I don't know anything about graphics cards tbh
I have an nvidia 3070ti and it runs games. thats enough for me
mossy flume
GPUs: They're like CPUs but they're almost exclusively good at matrix operations. 
Now you know everything you need to know about GPUs. 
sage iris
cpus: a couple of strong and smart cores 
gpus: tiny, weak and stupid little cores, but there are thousands of them 
that's the gist
rancid herald
do they make other cards like gpus but with stuff that's good at other sorts of operations?
static bluff
Sound Cards use to be a thing
Network Cards are useful if you need, like, fiber or a 10GB port
so yeah
rancid herald
did sound cards have cpus?
static bluff
well, not a general purpose cpu
sage iris
yeah, sound cards used to be a thing, but now I don't think anyone needs them anymore?
mossy flume
Only sound engineers. Motherboard integrated sound chips have gotten good enough for 99% of people.
static bluff
Yeah
There's a niche market that's willing to pay a bazillion dollars so they exist
Audiophiles are insane
quiet swift
Sound Cards use to be a thing
THey still are. Though they've tended to use an exterior device these days
static bluff
I say this with love
quiet swift
mossy flume
Audiophiles did push the market a bit, so they have that going for them
sage iris
I remember our pc had a tv card too. That was back in like the early 2000s
static bluff
That's dope
static bluff
whaat
teal cliff
Independent sound cards tend to be really expensive because the only people who buy them are audiophiles looking for the real good stuff, in my experience
static bluff
that's awesome
quiet swift
"Back in my day, I had a voodoo fx card!"
sage iris
static bluff
voodoo doo doo
quiet swift
And this was always hilarious
static bluff
laugh my fucking ass off is that real???
mossy flume
Itās legit
quiet swift
Nah
static bluff
let me believe
mossy flume
90s marketing was batshit insane
static bluff
it would have cost you nothing
quiet swift
quiet swift
90s marketing was batshit insane
static bluff
Choose your speed:
- Turtle
- Hare
- Bitchin'
teal cliff
"nor does it fit in any case known to man"
static bluff
That's why Luna invented the drimmel
little badger
90s marketing was batshit insane
Do you own any retro consoles.
mossy flume
Man I remember this
quiet swift
mossy flume
Do you own any retro consoles.
A bunch, yeah.
I still need an original NES, SNES, and VB, but I have almost every other Nintendo console
little badger
Even the 64?
static bluff
lol i wanted a virtual boy soooo bad
mossy flume
Yeah
little badger
static bluff
i begged so much
teal cliff
vampire survivors is cool
sometimes a bit too cryptic about how to progress or unlock the next thing
but usually cool
mossy flume
It be dusty
static bluff
notices receiver
teal cliff
the only retro consoles I own are playstations
quiet swift
ive been playinng Vampire Survivors
It's so fun! Also, garlic rules all
static bluff
aight brb i'mma post mine
teal cliff
ps1-ps5 and also a random sega genesis
mossy flume
notices receiver
Sad news though. We no longer use it.
The room we have for the media room is too small for a fully proper speaker setup. Right now it uses a 5.1 Sonos speaker configuration.
river veldt
so far Antonio is the only characyer i really like
mossy flume
We no longer use the fancy speakers we used before so theyāre just collecting dust at the moment
static bluff
Behold
river veldt
ong Playstation
mossy flume
Oh I like that arctic GBA there
static bluff
That's MrsOnosas
mossy flume
There's a MrsOnosa? TIL
Crocodile 2
Someday I should get a proper up to date photo of my collection
static bluff
Note that 007 is already locked and loaded into the n64. Very important.
mossy flume
The correct state of things.
static bluff
i wonder what's in the ps1
(not a leading question, i really do wonder. but it's way over there)
fresh bane
FF7
river veldt
Final Fantasy VII disc 2
static bluff
!addpoll
Option 1: Empty
Option 2: The Legend of Dragoon disk 3
Option 3: RPG Maker
Option 4: Revolution X
Option 5: Any Final Fantasy disk (and boy are there ever a lot of those!)
haughty umbraBOT
Sorry, addpoll
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rugged flax
i keep telling myself that about my network setup at home
...it's been 2.5 years and it's still all just sitting in a pile in the corner of the basement haphazardly cabled together 
random steppe
look i'll get to it
I don't bother anymore, I'm pretty sure cables entangle themselves anyway when I sleep
It's the only logical explanation
flint iron
Sentient cables 
rare dew
... Cables aren't a fire risk just from being tangled, are they?
bleak lintel
I have all the Nintendo consoles minus NES, SNES and Virtual Boy. Have all the PlayStations. Never had the first Xbox.
mossy flume
... Cables aren't a fire risk just from being tangled, are they?
Nope
bleak lintel
Recently replugged in the Wii-U to avoid nand corruption.
teal cliff
honestly the biggest "risk" of tangled cables is trying to move something and yanking something else off a shelf
mossy flume
I should do that
quiet swift
so far Antonio is the only characyer i really like
So you're saying you like whipping? 
mossy flume
But man if I can find anything in this mess. I miss the days when this was all in a nice glass shelf caseā¦
Not shown: the literal pile of old Xboxes and PlayStations
I like this shelf though
Has my PokƩmon stuff 
bleak lintel
I still have my GB Pokemon too.
mossy flume
My 3DS game collection partly went missing in the moveā¦ as did some GameCube games and hardwareā¦. and DS gamesā¦
mossy flume
Strong suspicion of movers 
river veldt
So you're saying you like whipping? <a:Isee:530422603379376140>
yeah like Simon Belmont or Indiana Jones
quiet swift
make sure to spend coins on some upgrades and not just unlocking chars
flint iron
You still have your n64 boxes in good condition, I still have some of my n64 boxes but their condition looks worse than UPS having a WWE match with a package
mossy flume
These N64 games are unfortunately not my original collectionā¦. parents forcefully sold all of our original N64 stuff one day, most of which was mine. Because they got mad at my brother once. 
But yeah, I made a point to get them with boxes this time
I have factory sealed OoT and MM in that pile, but the seller for the OoT copy was an absolute moron and packed it in such a way that it got squished and partly torn during shipping.
So that $600 I paid for it was wasted before it even got to me
static bluff
Oh it was VMXRacing