I mean, with preloading you just wouldn't be able to play the game at all
#general gaming
random steppe
I don't see what saves have anything to do with it
They changed too much apparently for EA saves to be compatible, which is a good sign overall
robust spear
little badger
https://twitter.com/ubisoft/status/1686407022600687618? @river veldt
thorny loom
Nice to see their still updating it
river veldt
oh cool
green fulcrum
Ooooof....I may need to see if I even have space for it. That's a beeeeeeg game.
mossy flume
They’ve been happy to invalidate your save constantly during early access
little badger
Ooooof....I may need to see if I even have space for it. That's a beeeeeeg game.
Beeeeg
https://twitter.com/_yuka_kitamura_/status/1686310080512466944? Lead composer from The souls games.
Twitter
random steppe
Happy for her
green fulcrum
I mean, if she's freelance, that means she can still work on Souls games, she just now has more freedom to work elsewhere too instead of exclusively with FromSoftware
astral steeple
Lol isnt that like the 3rd or 4th game now Alien has collabed with
thorny loom
Yeah alien was also in fortnite
dense crypt
Doge beats up bnuuy
little badger
white phoenix
wow, so late into the current generation and major AAA games are still regularly being ported to last gen
iirc fifa 14 was ported to the ps2 lol
slim thorn
huh
slim thorn
oh, yes, anyone who liked J:FO and wants more of that should absolutely play JS
little badger
Oooooh. I’ve seen gameplay of it but I’ll get it soon 
astral steeple
dense crypt
what are those TMNT designs
dense crypt
huh
visual hill
oh, yes, anyone who liked J:FO and wants more of that should absolutely play JS
play JavaScript 
I wonder if the sequel will be TS. Time to find a fitting Star Wars name
river veldt
they're mutant turtles who live in the sewers they're supposed to look nasty
green fulcrum
I'm still not a fan of their voices. They are waaaaaaaay too young, even for teenagers. They sound like 9 year olds.
river veldt
nah they sound like 13 year olds i knew in middle school
have you guys seen the original TMNT art
green fulcrum
I knew many 13 year olds when I was in the Boy Scouts. Absolutely none of them sounded like that.
Correction: one sounded like that, now that I think back to it. 
minor plover
I have a 13 year old son right now
slim thorn
so what I'm hearing is Canadian kids sound more mature than American kids
green fulcrum
I guess? 
minor plover
Where's a voice clip to compare?
fickle garnet
Idk when me and my friends were 13 we sounded similar to them
river veldt
i mean, at least they cast actual teenagers
fickle garnet
Yeah
white phoenix
You tend to think 13 year olds look and feel older when you're that age and younger
And then when you grow up, they look like kindergarteners
Source: me as a 4th grader thinking 6th graders were basically adults, vs. Me as a high school senior thinking freshmen were babies
minor plover
lol wife made a new Dark Souls character. On her way to the Taurus demon, summons help. Dude is "Nazgul", wearing the iron golem armor with a big sword and casting fire storm. He's gotta be like level 17. What a great showboat
fresh bane
Surprising that she was able to find any summons at all on Dark Souls 1 of all games
minor plover
still tons of them
the gaping dragon or whatever it's called, there's often like 5+ signatures
(she's in the remastered version which I guess came out semi recently)
fresh bane
Even the remastered version which has overwritten the original release on most stores is pretty dead and has been reported since release to not work very properly with the online
It caused it to go dead pretty quickly and people mostly stuck with ds2 and ds3 so it's surprising for me to hear that someone is having a very active online experience with the game
minor plover
it's not like "there's always a summon everywhere", but there are key areas where you can find them
fresh bane
You can only place summon signs on specific areas in DS1 so yeah of course, but back in 2017 even before the remaster when I was playing DS1 for the first time I never really managed to find much activity online unfortunately
minor plover
well, like, there are always lots of people in Anor Londo for the O&S fight
fresh bane
huh, weird, I wonder if people went back to it nowadays
minor plover
IDK
rotund forge
Has anyone heard of Billie Bust Up? It's a musical platformer in the works, and the songs are composed by Daniel Ingram of all people!
They sound soooo good! The man can't miss!
minor plover
gargoyles, Quelaag, and Manus tend to have pretty good traffic too
fresh bane
Nice, kinda jealous since when I was playing DS1 I had a pretty lonely experience 
I don't even think I was even invaded at all
But to be fair it was the original release... still, nice 
it's fun seeing all the crazy characters popping up, even on Elden Ring people do joke or cosplay characters a lot still
rancid herald
i mean, at least they cast actual teenagers
they should've cast actual turtles, smh
gaunt marten
Dark Souls 1 has a very dedicated fanbase
The majority of which are playing in US time
(also they play the remaster)
chilly mural
Korone for EVO
lmao, me and tallcat are going to EVO
thorny loom
gaunt marten
Garfield
leaden bone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNnDrb6KUmI
Directed by Michael Bay
gaunt marten
Neat game. It's Pokémon Infinite Fusion
The whole game is randomized and the random Pokémon are fused together
You can even do your own fusions and unfusions
quiet swift
https://vxtwitter.com/yohosiefgc/status/1685826901821251584 when you even get Doom running on a cat
thorny loom
https://twitter.com/nintendouk/status/1686643575373651970
Are those two not on switch already
thorny loom
Youd think the first platoon would at least be
dire gate
Well the first one came out 2 years before Switch release, and Splatoon 2 came out on Switch the same year the console was out
So they probably thought it's not necessary
astral steeple
wind stump
can't wait for Twitter/X to die already so that this kind of shit vagueposting is limited to clickbait articles
would be funny if this was off the mark and it wsa a Soul Caliber 2 remake though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv5ZuHilfbo
young creek
Social media isnt going away even if twitter actually dies
astral steeple
given Mcfarlane toys makes the fort toys, and Todd has been pushing for spawn to be added to the game for a while now, it likely will be fort
also its not vagueposting its literally something he had said at comic con
wind stump
Yeah but Twitter's the main cause of it so it gets the blame
You can just make up whatever you want, attach a few images, send tweet
astral steeple
the main difference being is that the person who posted that tweet isnt just some random person
theyre a notable leaker within the fort community
young creek
We definitely see it the most because twitter is huge in our demographic, but the few times I open facebook the content is actually so much worse
So dont expect social media to get better even if twitter dies 
wind stump
oh well, Spawn is fuckin' busted in SC2, jesus
maybe it's better if he's added to Fortnite instead and I can continue ignoring the media conglomerate posing as a video game
Stop giving fighting game characters projectiles in a melee based system!
young creek
theres a trend on FB of big pages making up stories and finding video footage that suits it, and then at the end of the video it says in tiny letters "video footage unrelated" and it gets MILLIONS of likes and shares. The facebook demographic which is obviously much older than twitter/discord does not give a damn about fact checking
People making absolute bank on made up stories posing them as news
gaunt marten
Yeah
dire gate
unreal idol
it's funny how FB transitioned from being a platform predominately used by young people to boomers
gaunt marten
Artiks killed my dad
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Raditz-and-Goku-Hit-By-The-Special-Beam-Cannon-Dragon-Ball-Z.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=767&dpr=1.5
Picture unrelated
dire gate
astral steeple
oh well, Spawn is fuckin' busted in SC2, *jesus*
maybe it's better if he's added...
lol
chilly mural
real
astral steeple
also
huh???????
Mediatonic have released their own game within fort
did not see that happening
gaunt marten
Where's the nuke one?
river veldt
he is busy
gaunt marten
Helping Gandhi out
green fulcrum
Tomorrow is Baldur's Gate 3! 
uneven epoch
have fun
chilly mural
wind stump
stop being meta, video game
wind stump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO9hBjUkT0o
@uneven epoch it's time to get funky 
mossy flume
https://twitter.com/nintendouk/status/1686643575373651970
…huh, that’s weird
green fulcrum
That's actually pretty smart
mossy flume
Hmm do they include Elite controller gen 1?
random steppe
That one looks like an elite controller 2, I wonder if there is even significant difference between parts
mossy flume
The joysticks on my gen 1 need to be replaced
And I’m not really up for spending $200 on a gen 2
sage raptor
Sticks and paddles are swappable between elite 1 and 2
I'm still using my elite 1 paddles on my elite 2 (they're slightly bigger)
wind stump
i love clickbait articles
this is the second time I've been hoodwinked by the Two Point Campus "giveaway"
"You can get THIS GAME for FREE*
well actually you can download it and play it for free but it's not free to keep once time runs out you gotta buy the game"
how do i delete this shit from my notifications
quiet swift
Flamethrowers help
sage iris
wait so is BG3 coming out tomorrow or on the 6th, I'm confused
green fulcrum
Tomorrow
It's September 6 for PS5.
The delay for PS5 is because they're having trouble with the local split screen, iirc.
sage iris
that's odd, why does the steam page say august 6th
oh wait
it says october 6th 2020 💀
I'm stupid
quiet swift
green fulcrum
Convenient!
sage iris
god I wish they allowed you to preload it
it's gonna take hours to download with my speed 
I won't be able to play until night time probably
green fulcrum
It might take a while for the download for me too, which is why when it releases I'm just gonna start the download and go to sleep. That way, it should be ready by the time I'm awake.
green fulcrum
I mean, 120+ gigabytes is still a lot. It might take a little longer, Idk. I also might have to clear out some space so that I can download it in the first place.
Wish the game was a bit smaller, but it's probably all those cutscenes taking up that space, lol.
sage iris
120 gigabytes it's gonna take like 6 hours to download at my speed 
thorny loom
I bought it
sage iris
Good
fickle garnet
thorny loom
Omg
slim thorn
now that I'm done with boring mainstream games like Zelda, I'm starting another one of my obscure indie things
really appreciate this accessibility option being front and center at the start, even though I'll be going with the stylized fonts
rose rose
Is that an obscure indie thing? It's Xbox Game Studios
I feel like being bought by Microsoft immediately de-indies you
slim thorn
significant sarcasm was involved, but it's not exactly a tentpole release I'd expect everyone to be familiar with
rose rose
(also some of the stylised ones are really annoying to read in context.)
(not that I suggest changing the setting)
thorny loom
visual hill
ah yeah, I've heard of that
I'm mostly interested in their BIOS for emulation purposes, as they intend to make it compatible with Xemu
so you would no longer need an Xbox BIOS to boot games, making the setup process easier
it should also make setting up Insignia easier as there's a dedicated menu for it
thorny loom
river veldt
really appreciate this accessibility option being front and center at the start,...
what game is this
thorny loom
river veldt
o
random steppe
I'm keeping all my RPG juice for tomorrow, but at some point I'll try pentiment
Heard good things about it
wintry canopy
I finally figured out how to get this bean.
quiet swift
mossy flume
Reminder to uninstall Baldur’s Gate 3 before the release date to avoid any technical issues with the release version.
green fulcrum
Also, reminder: this is your last chance to get the Deluxe Edition of Baldur's Gate 3 before the launch. If you buy the game while it's still in early access, you'll get all the Deluxe Edition content for free.
thorny loom
Im just waiting to install when its fully released
green fulcrum
This includes the digital soundtrack, a digital artbook, exclusive in-game content (armor sets mostly), and other goodies.
green fulcrum
From everyone who has played it, they're saying it is THE best turn-based RPG ever made, possibly surpassing even Divinity Original Sin 2 (which was made by the same devs).
If it goes as well as I hope it does, it may even be a Game of the Year contender.
white phoenix
so many games this year
green fulcrum
Half of them be shit, half of them be BOMB.
mossy flume
It’s potentially going to be one of the best RPGs in years, as I understand it
The expectations are high
I plan to give it a solid go, having had the early access for a while. It looks like it’ll be quite fun.
white phoenix
see now that's high praise
I'll be honest, my only real experience with RPGs is the persona series, which is a turn based thing too, and for me now so far, those games are tiers above anything I've ever played
slim thorn
I like how "best <genre> of all time" was implicitly placed below "game of the year"
white phoenix
so would it really change my life as much as persona did
green fulcrum
Hype music, activate! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbrBPLCSqX8
mossy flume
I would be surprised if it wasn’t nominated for GotY at TGA this December
green fulcrum
Very surprised, and honestly outraged.
mossy flume
I don’t really have much of a horse in this race. I’m just looking forward to it. 
BG3, Starfield… what else would be a shoe-in for GOTY this year?
slim thorn
(I'll just be watching from afar since it's not my thing)
slim thorn
did I miss Starfield
mossy flume
It’s coming out in about 30 days
slim thorn
oh it's another Bethesda RPG, yeah that'd explain me not knowing
mossy flume
A little over 30 days
mossy flume
oh it's another Bethesda RPG, yeah that'd explain me not knowing
Bethesda in space, yeah
I don’t have super high hopes but it’s expected to be space game of the year
slim thorn
how many space games even come out per year
white phoenix
would re4 count
green fulcrum
Yeah, maybe
white phoenix
dead space?
mossy flume
Usually a few
slim thorn
remakes definitely count yes
mossy flume
Dead Space, yeah I could see that one
white phoenix
ff16 too
mossy flume
Oh yeah and FF16
slim thorn
especially when people unironically recommend playing both the original and the remake
mossy flume
That’ll fill the list
white phoenix
oh and spider man 2
in case its good, which it probably will
q4 2023 is going to be wild
mossy flume
I could bet it’s FF16, Starfield, TotK, Spider-Man 2, and BG3 for GOTY nominees. Swap out Spider Man with Dead Space maybe.
random steppe
BG3, Starfield… what else would be a shoe-in for GOTY this year?
Armored Core will probably do well too, we'll see how well
mossy flume
Oh damn, yeah that too
slim thorn
I don't even know how to look up which games I played this year that also came out this year (without tediously checking each separately)
white phoenix
oh yeah, that's coming out
mossy flume
That’s a tough list this year
random steppe
Also Remnant 2 reportedly did very well
white phoenix
fromsoft can't do wrong can they
river veldt
who would win me or John Baldur's Gate 3
green fulcrum
so would it really change my life as much as persona did
I think this might actually answer your question: https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15g217t/new_to_this_game_unlearn_what_video_games_have/
random steppe
AC is supposed to be a smaller title than other from soft titles so they might not get quite the acclaim they usually get, also it's more experimental, as they are not just repeating their tried and true souls formula
But more hybridizing with another genre
astral steeple
the new spiderman game will probably end up being good, but i already know they probably wont include a couple costumes that i like within it as unlockable costumes lol
white phoenix
I think this might actually answer your question: https://www.reddit.com/r/Baldu...
WOW they're really subverting all the "video gamey" things we've come to have gotten used to
Now that is really cool
green fulcrum
Yup!
Almost all of this could be done in D:OS 2 as well
And let me tell you, it was AWESOME.
white phoenix
no wonder so many AAA devs were complaining on twitter
green fulcrum
Larian Studios is the GOAT.
mossy flume
People were complaining?
random steppe
To be fair, most of what they say was already in Divinity but with the D&D license this time, which is exactly what I want out of it
river veldt
who is the main character of Baldur's Gate 3
mossy flume
[Player] I imagine
random steppe
We'll see how much freedom this one allows once I'm playing it, I have high expectations but I don't know if I buy it'll be revolutionary
green fulcrum
But like, seriously, go wild with this game. Explore, experiment, and be amazed. You thought Elden Ring had lots of secrets? Please, that was nothing. People are reporting 200+ hours into the first act of Baldur's Gate 3 alone, and are still finding hidden places.
Sit in every chair. Click on every wall. Move over every brick. Look under every rock. ANYTHING could be a hidden lever or mechanism to open up new quests, new dungeons, new treasures, and hidden rooms.
random steppe
So far the only truly revolutionary RPG I played in recent years has been Disco Elysium
river veldt
is that the gay one
mossy flume
The amount of code involved in this game must be a nightmare.
river veldt
is all the ship art ive seen of Harry and Kim a lie ,??????
green fulcrum
who is the main character of Baldur's Gate 3
It's a custom player character, but the tentative "canonical" name is Tav. But that's usually not everyone's first pick, and I think the devs knew that so that's why the name is boring.
random steppe
I don't know if there is an outcome in which you are explicitly involved with him romantically, but he is adorable
slim thorn
I think this might actually answer your question: https://www.reddit.com/r/Baldu...
huh, most of this sounds like a standard argument for getting someone into the great old-school choice-heavy CRPGs or "immersive sims" (I guess it's good that a game newer than Prey is trying this again but the implication that BG3 is the first to do all of these things has me going 
)
random steppe
I can't play that game as a bad guy because the weight of disappointing Kim would be too much
river veldt
i like harry's muttonchops and ive seen official art of him without them and they make me want to cry
green fulcrum
The amount of code involved in this game must be a nightmare.
They have 70000 variations to the endings. Naturally, most of these are only very slight differences, but that still shows how dedicated these devs are.
mossy flume
huh, most of this sounds like a standard argument for getting someone into the g...
Yeah some of those items in that list made me think “has this person never played an MMO?”
I’m particularly confused by that “you can’t fail quests” item… uh, yeah? That’s pretty standard.
random steppe
It came out, it was good
river veldt
oh cool
random steppe
Then they released a DLC which was also well recieved
mossy flume
I have a friend who has wanted me to play Prey for years but I’ve never gotten around to it
random steppe
I tried playing it twice but somehow it can't seem to catch me
Maybe I wasn't in the mood
slim thorn
Prey was maybe the best immersive sim since Deus Ex, and people who are into that adored it, but that is a bit of a niche since it demands so much of the player, so general gaming audiences often forget it exists
mossy flume
They just never wanted to sell me on it other than be like “you need to play it”
river veldt
i think im just not in the right circles cause i feel like i never heard about it again a month after it cane out
came
slim thorn
yeah I am definitely not in the mood for another CRPG/IS at the moment, probably won't be for a while
well if you're not into those games then it's probably a good sign
green fulcrum
I’m particularly confused by that “you can’t fail quests” item… uh, yeah? That’s...
Not necessarily. I've played plenty of games where you could fail quests and not get a reward because you didn't do it properly (for example, letting the person you're escorting get killed).
random steppe
I am mostly in the mood for BG3 because I really like D&D and this one seems to be pretty awesome.
But yeah, if it wasn't D&D themed I would probably wait.
white phoenix
I know nothing about dnd, would I still like this game?
slim thorn
clarification: is it just themed? I thought I heard it was doing D&D mechanics as well (like BG1-2?)
random steppe
I'm still riding the "Honor Among Thieves" hype
green fulcrum
I know nothing about dnd, would I still like this game?
I think so, yes.
random steppe
No it has the mechanics from the tabletop
mossy flume
Not necessarily. I've played plenty of games where you could fail quests and not...
Well yeah, I’ve played some games like that too, but that feels more like the exception rather than the rule. Most RPGs I’ve played never had a failure mechanic.
random steppe
Mostly
There are some differences and concessions because it's a videogame and some things don't translate perfectly
Also I think it's the 1st big videogame using the 5e system
slim thorn
ok, yeah, personally I do not enjoy D&D mechanics in video game form
random steppe
I enjoy them to the extent that I already know them well...
In most RPGS there is the problem that you learn as you go, and if you fuck up you learn it halfway the campaign and it sucks a lot.
But in this one, I'm intimately familiar with the mechanics already, I skip the learning curve and I can start right away to have fun with them
green fulcrum
Also I think it's the 1st big videogame using the 5e system
I thought Solasta: Crown of the Magister did this already?
slim thorn
yep that's a big part of my problem with the games that people usually call RPGs; I can never trust them to remain playable if I'm not following a walkthrough to avoid mistakes that won't hurt me until 10+ hours later when it's too late to learn any better
random steppe
Also 5e mechanics are relatively simple compared to previous D&D system which also helps
Many 3.5 games I enjoyed them in videogame forms a bit more at times because I didn't have to do math
green fulcrum
I'm going into this game almost completely blind. I haven't seen much gameplay footage (not that I need to, it's basically the same as D:OS 2, which I'm already very familiar with), I know nothing of the story beyond the basic premise, and I have absolutely no idea what it's going to be like.
I haven't gone almost completely blind into a game in many, many years.
random steppe
5e was the first version that really clicked with my group to the point we didn't have to reference the book during a session
slim thorn
huh, I go near blind into most of my games
random steppe
I played a bit of early access to get a feel, seems like Divinity but D&D, which is more than fine by me, Divinity is great
Except I actually care about the world and the organisations because I am already familiar with the world, which makes it better for me
slim thorn
(technically I'm familiar with Planescape now, but I assume that's not enough in this context 
)
green fulcrum
Nowhere near enough
rose rose
They have ***70000*** variations to the endings. Naturally, most of these are on...
These sort of things are the silliest numbers. If there are sixteen things that could each vary one line in the dialog that gets you almost all the way there. Seventeen would overshoot dramatically.
random steppe
I'm probably going to play a barbarian paladin to emulate a character I played in one of Flitter campaigns, (technically she was a zealot barbarian but that subclass isn't in the game, but I can get pretty close with multiclassing)
I can't wait
Still unsure how many levels in each
green fulcrum
I'm probably gonna be a rogue. I really want to try them out and see how they work
slim thorn
mm-hmm, a "number of endings" metric is so easy to game that to even present one is a red flag
green fulcrum
Oh yeah, what's the level cap for Baldur's Gate 3? Wasn't it 15 or something?
slim thorn
it's rare enough for a game to have >5 meaningfully different endings
quiet swift
12
green fulcrum
Ah
random steppe
I don't think it's a red flag, it's just an easy headline to get.
light gate
Why do I feel that Baldur's Gate 3 is overhyped?
green fulcrum
Lower than I thought
random steppe
Might be overhyped, doesn't mean it'll be bad tho
slim thorn
ok, red flag for the quality of the source doing the praise, which ties into going for easy headlines
visual hill
Why do I feel that Baldur's Gate 3 is overhyped?
same, I'm always wary of hype
same for Garfield Starfield
slim thorn
however you want to phrase it, we're all saying the same thing
random steppe
Like, let's be clear, this game has a year of pretty damn successful Early Access, and the developers are the authors of two of the most acclaimed turn based RPGs of all time, it probably wont be bad.
Will it be as good as people claim? Ehh, we'll see when it comes out
green fulcrum
it's rare enough for a game to have >5 meaningfully different endings
Yeah, of course there's no way in hell that it'll have that many actual endings, but still, having over 70000 variations does show that the devs are dedicated to keeping things polished and rewarding for players who go the extra mile. There may be only like 10 actual endings or so (Idk how many, I'm just guessing), but that's still a loooot of choice.
visual hill
yeah, good early access isn't the norm
light gate
70,000 variations of what?
green fulcrum
The ending
light gate
What does that even mean?
mossy flume
Different combinations of cutscenes
green fulcrum
Most of that is just little deviations involving choices your character makes throught the game
rose rose
The entire ending sequence. Which in practice means maybe a dozen choices change a line of dialog somewhere in it.
light gate
Oh, so basically flags that changes the flavor text.
random steppe
The ending seems to be pretty modular, as in, what happens to a lot of the sidequests or your companions will change various details in it, which is where people get the 7000 permutations
green fulcrum
Wait, is it only 7000? I thought it was 70000?
rose rose
Seventy thousand was the given number
green fulcrum
Ah, okay, so I didn't misread then
random steppe
I don't even care about the number, it's a buzzfeed headline
light gate
"18 quintillion planets."
slim thorn
mm-hmm, a permutation count on its own doesn't mean anything, gotta experience the game to judge how varied the ending is
quiet swift
17k actually
rose rose
Though seven thousand and seventy thousand are just three choices considered apart
slim thorn
out of curiosity, what would you all say is the game you've played with the most meaningful ending variation?
random steppe
To compare apples to apples tho, Witcher 3 did a very similar things and they got to 40 variations with 3 different meaningful endings.
So even by that standard, it's a pretty impressive number of variations
rose rose
Seventeen thousand and seven thousand are about one choice apart. Combinatorics are fun.
green fulcrum
out of curiosity, what would you all say is the game you've played with the most...
As in, game with most normal endings, or game with most variation between the normal endings?
light gate
I just hope the game doesn't pull an ME3 at least, otherwise a new lcd pixel will be made.
slim thorn
well Witcher 2 probably had more than 3 endings (and is my personal favorite on this point) but I don't want to get into the weeds of whether 8 is the right number or too low or too high
random steppe
Which game I played with most endings or which games I did the most endings in?
slim thorn
As in, game with most normal endings, or game with most *variation* between the ...
I phrased it that way to avoid the fallacy of counting discrete A, B, C endings as a metric for how good the ending system is
it can't be quantified, which is part of why it's worth asking the poll question
rose rose
Honestly I have played approximately zero games more than once so I have very little idea how many endings any of them have 
random steppe
By deaful I'll say Witcher 3 but I don't know
rose rose
Or how much they might actually vary
My experience of replaying games with choices is that doing so a second time will just shatter the illusion of choice
random steppe
I don't mind it actually, I did both sides of Witcher 2 at some point.
It also depends from the game and how they do the variations
It's funny how people hate the Deus Ex Human Revolution and the Mass Effect 3 because to pick an ending you just have to push a different button at the end, but actually, at the time, I thought those were pretty convenient.
Didn't have to replay the whole game to get a different outcome
light gate
Well, its mainly because when the game came out (ME3)... it only had different colors and very tiny cutscene differences.
The extended dlc did help at least, but it was pretty brutal the comparisons.
slim thorn
tbf I get the complaint that just 3 buttons in a room is a pretty game-y and immersion breaking presentation of the choice; the original Deus Ex is hardly subtle about your 3 options but the choice arises much more naturally, especially since you have to actually do a level or two differently to get to the place where you trigger the ending you've chosen
random steppe
I played it much later and I enjoyed my time with ME3.
Even tho I have to admit that ME2 final mission was actually masterfully done.
It's so special that I actually don't even blame anyone to not do something like that, it's one of those feats of storytelling that seem like magic to me and I don't even know how one would go about trying to accomplish it
slim thorn
ME3 was also a case of hype and marketing clashing very heavily with the actual game; in particular they explicitly stated the ending would not be N buttons in a room and yet that's exactly what it was
so that one likely benefits from playing it years later removed from that context
light gate
An oddity with the ME3 Extended Ending DLC is that a few cutscenes that were good, got worse somehow. Like certain graphical details were lost and compression got higher in some scenes. It was odd.
But then again, it was probably a factor of the team getting overwhelmed with work.
slim thorn
let me try rephrasing the original question
mossy flume
It’s also that ME3’s ending was changed at the last minute due to a mix of publisher meddling and artistic desire to keep the element of surprise
slim thorn
what game(s) do you personally think had the most immersive and impactful multi-ending or ending variation system; anything from a single choice the whole plot masterfully builds to or a thousand choices seamlessly integrated into a highly varied ending sequence or something far more subtle or creative
mossy flume
Citadel DLC was a love letter and an apology for that and it was phenomenally done
slim thorn
personally my picks for that would be Witcher 2, Silent Hill 2 and Planescape: Torment
mossy flume
But then again, it was probably a factor of the team getting overwhelmed with wo...
Yeah, deadlines were a problem too
There’s a whole story there where I can hardly blame them. I’m mad about it because the original ending was better, but it is what it is
And I think Citadel sorta makes up for it
sour hill
personally my picks for that would be Witcher 2, Silent Hill 2 and Planescape: T...
I like what SH2 did
random steppe
what game(s) do you personally think had the most immersive and impactful multi-...
ME2 is probably the most impressive I've seen but I liked Witcher 3 more because I was more invested in the characters
Dragon Age 1 was also really good
slim thorn
ME2 was cool and all, but I never understood why that one's on a pedestal since it mostly follows the (now-)familiar format of "the more of these sidequests you did, the more good things happen / bad things don't happen"
visual hill
Didn't have to replay the whole game to get a different outcome
yeah, that's one of the upsides
mossy flume
It was sorta new at the time
slim thorn
at least when I played it it was pretty obvious that nobody was dying because I did every sidequest
mossy flume
You can still mess up if you make the wrong choices
Even if you have full loyalty and Normandy upgrades, people can still die
random steppe
I think it made a whole lot of tematic sense, you are the leader of a team, and making a team more cohesive and trust in you more, improves its effectivness
Since the last mission is formatted in "Very dangerous mission we might make if we are really good at" it played really well as a metric of how good of a leader you are
The better ending you get
dense crypt
what game(s) do you personally think had the most immersive and impactful multi-...
I want to say Armored Core: For Answer, but that game has some pretty limited choices until the very end
slim thorn
to be clear I'm not saying there's anything "wrong" with ME2's ending sequence
it's "standard" but very well-executed, thoroughly enjoyable the whole way through
it just doesn't have some truly unique thing elevating it above that
light gate
"I am Commander Rainbow Dash, and this is my favorite store on the Cidatel."
random steppe
It wasn't just random "Jack likes you more, now she wont die" but more of a "Jack is now an integrated part of the team, she might make it"
Also there is the idea that you assign different people to tasks during the mission, and if you know what they are good at, it also influences it
slim thorn
right, I was of course oversimplifying a bit, it's good that it's possible to still eff up during the mission itself
random steppe
It just worked really well in the fantasy of the game you being this elite military leader
Possibly
If you don't fuck it up
It was really rewarding in that sense
sour hill
I think I like linear stories more, in general
random steppe
I don't have a preference
As long as they are well written
They scratch different itches
slim thorn
part of what I was getting at with phrasing the question the way I did is that mere quantity of endings or story branches is not inherently a good thing
random steppe
I must admit, a linear story is harder to fuck up.
slim thorn
most people would probably put Silent Hill 2 into the "linear" bucket, for example
sour hill
Silent Hill 2 is kind of special because it has multiple endings, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to try to get them all or anything
You just kinda get what you get
And it's fine
random steppe
My favourite story in a game is FFXIV which is as linear as you can get, but there is something in making your own choices matter.
I don't even care about the ending that much actually, just having different branches that finish at the same spot would probably be just as satisfying to me.
hushed onyx
huh, I go near blind into most of my games
See, I never go blind into a game. For one thing, I usually buy a game long after I first hear about it and have been reading this and that and the other thing about it (to, you know, know if it's a good use of my limited budget and especially time or not). For another, almost the first thing I do with practically any game is to look up how to play it so I don't make rookie mistakes, or at least am less likely to make rookie mistakes. In the case of RPGs this would most definitely mean looking up build guides.
slim thorn
And it's fine
in my case it was more like "after all of that, this feels like the only way the story could've possibly ended" and then I learn how other people would get a totally different ending and also feel like it was the perfect way to conclude that whole story
it somehow taps into that cliche of every reader seeing a story differently and figures out how to pick the emotionally right ending for the player without them knowing there's ever a choice being made
sour hill
Yeah, it's a good system
random steppe
in my case it was more like "after all of that, this feels like the only way the...
Except the ||ufo ending|| but you don't get that one by chance
sour hill
I also felt that way
slim thorn
I've read the technical details on how it works and I still don't understand why that leads to the "emotionally right ending"
it's just ineffable
also I should've listed Signalis before, somehow it also managed this same trick where I got the emotionally perfect ending for me and cannot explain how
random steppe
||Lesbian space magic||, duh
Clearly the only answer
I didn't mention the Nier or Drakengard games, because those are linear games despite having multiple endings
Since you are supposed to do them all in order
slim thorn
I'm probably going to have to play Nier one of these days
random steppe
They are very interesting
Also surprising progressive at times for 13 years old games from a japanese developer.
Clearly Yoko Taro does a lot of drugs
quiet swift
Yoko Taro is an absolute madlad
random steppe
My running theory is that he just wears the mask so people can't check his pupils
sour hill
Nier is pretty solid
random steppe
It's a lot, especially Automata
You have to come ready to tackle a lot of philosophy, it's not an everyday kind of game
It's presented in an entertaining way, but the endings are going to suck if you don't at least tackle with the questions it asks at some point
slim thorn
that's pretty much what I mean by "I'll have to"
what little I've heard about it has me convinced it is exactly the kind of thing I will love when I'm in the right mood to put that much focus and brainpower into it
random steppe
Oh yeah, they are definitely worthwhile experiences to have.
slim thorn
so for at least a few years now I've been avoiding learning anything remotely concrete about it
(other than the vague awareness that there's more than one Nier so I'm not quite that lost)
random steppe
My favourite factoid is still that the only reason papa Nier exists, is that they didn't think we liked twink boys in the west
Nintendo in the meantime, releases the 23th Zelda title, laughing its ass from the other room
slim thorn
I am curious at what point in the franchise that became a conscious goal
random steppe
I personally also think the story is a bit more compelling in some ways as papa Nier, so it's not all bad
But yeah, it generally flows better as brother Nier
It's interesting how the story still pretty much works both ways tho
For the curious, very minor spoilers
||There are a few dialogues, related to a vague romantic confession, and one about the power of friendship, which come really weird when the dude is like, a 40+ years old dude, so I can see why brother Nier is the deafult canon protagonist, but for many the idea of trying to save your daughter is a more compelling fantasy than saving your little sister in the west, because japanese people seem to have a weird thing about sisters if anime is to be believed||
river veldt
what on earth is Nier about
random steppe
There is not a simple answer
Like, I'm not sure there is a complicated answer I could give either
river veldt
i thought it followed that on e lady
random steppe
First of all, which Nier?
slim thorn
the best possible answer
random steppe
Nier Replicant or Automata?
river veldt
i didnmt know there were multiple
slim thorn
lol
random steppe
They are barely related to each other and you can play them in either order too, it's not a normal franchise
It's more a vibe that make them part of the same franchise
river veldt
i see
slim thorn
for whenever the mood finally does strike me, which one(s) should be played in what order? to the extent that has an answer
random steppe
To give you a simple answer that wouldn't spoil anyone, they are action rpg games with some bullet hell elements, that tend to play with your expectations and try to deliver a deeper story than you would expect from the genre.
Hard to answer that too, I played Automata first and Replicant 2nd because when i played Automata, the other one only existed as an Xbox game
It's impossible to tell which one you'd like the most because they do cover very different themes
Personally I think Replicant is less ambitious but also more approchable for its story, but you might vibe with the more high concept questions Automata asks
hushed onyx
huh, most of this sounds like a standard argument for getting someone into the g...
Most of it tbh sounds exaggerated to me. Sure, maybe you can talk to animals...but do they have anything interesting to say?
random steppe
Ultimately it really doesn't matter which one you play first, they reference each other only in very distant ways
Replicant is the first one chronologically if that matters
random steppe
Most of it tbh sounds exaggerated to me. Sure, maybe you can *talk to animals*.....
Speaking from experience in Divinity:OS1&2 there are whole quests lines that you can only do if you talk to animals, or solutions to quests, so yeah, it was a pretty big deal in those games at least.
Will it be in this one? Who knows?
green fulcrum
I mean, the spell "Talk With Animals" can be pretty important in normal D&D, so I'm sure that Larian will use it to great effect in BG3.
river veldt
wait is Baldur's Gate 3 the one where you can romance bears
mossy flume
I think so
fickle garnet
Yes
random steppe
You can ||romance a druid which then can turn into a bear during sexy times||
Slight difference
And probably for the better
fickle garnet
But why
green fulcrum
Because why not?
green fulcrum
And apparently some of the devs finished up some final bits that supposedly makes the bear romance look tame.
random steppe
This probably wont be the case, but I kind of wish that if you were an halfling or a gnome, and you get the scene, you just get a gameover screen
because it'd be really funny
river veldt
LOL
hushed onyx
Speaking from experience in Divinity:OS1&2 there are whole quests lines that you...
Maybe I didn't quite convey what I meant--I wasn't saying so much that "talking to animals will be useless," but rather that I suspect that in most cases talking to animals (or corpses, or random NPCs) will be mildly interesting but not really important or that valuable. Sure, sometimes you'll get a quest or get a solution to a quest or whatever, but most of the time probably not, because there are sure to be an enormous number of animals, corpses, and NPCs and it would be infeasible to make them all important (and rather silly, too).
fickle garnet
Idk i dont wanna watch my character have relations with a bear
green fulcrum
Idk i dont wanna watch my character have relations with a bear
I mean, I don't either, but the whole point of it is so that people who crave the more ridiculous and outlandish style of D&D can have an absolute blast playing the game, even turning the serious romances into silly, stupid romps.
fickle garnet
I guess
random steppe
Maybe I didn't quite convey what I meant--I wasn't saying so much that "talking ...
It doesn't need to be foundamental, in the same way that having a high persuasion or insight wont solve every situation, it just needs to be a useful tool if you have it
green fulcrum
You don't even have to romance anyone if you don't want to.
It's a completely optional side thing.
fickle garnet
I know
random steppe
It's interesting that they didn't enable romance between player controlled characters, even if one of the characters is an origin with a normally available romance.
Probably wanted to avoid weird interactions
fickle garnet
Also speaking of romances in video games not everyone is bisexual in Cyberpunk 2077 which is kinda cool
random steppe
(as in, if two players play in the same game)
fickle garnet
So if you're female v you cant romance certain characters. Same with male v
random steppe
As a sidenote I am kind of happy they are bringing back origins from their other game, they were a really smart idea and fit really well in Baldur's Gate
green fulcrum
Probably wanted to avoid weird interactions
Doesn't stop the players from roleplaying the two of them being in love anyway, lol.
You know it'll happen
random steppe
Yeah but you can do that in Discord if you want, they can't hunt you down to stop you
river veldt
i hope the romance goes deeper than in Skyrim
random steppe
If they could Hasbro would already have sent the hitmen to this server
green fulcrum
i hope the romance goes deeper than in Skyrim
Apparently it goes pretty deep. You actually have to actively work to keep the romance going, and you can even be in polyamorous relationships too if you want.
Hell, you may even be able to romance the whole team.
Or most of it, anyway. I don't know if you can, I'm just guessing.
random steppe
I think it's not as simple tho, some characters wont be as fine with you being with other partners I seem to gather, we'll see how it shake out.
Seems like they gave them interesting personalities too
river veldt
can you gay
hushed onyx
It doesn't need to be foundamental, in the same way that having a high persuasio...
I guess I'm still not conveying what I mean. The original reddit post brought up talk to animals in a section labeled "games have taught you to ignore part of the environment". If most animals don't really have anything to say, though, this isn't really true. There will surely still be plenty of animals, corpses, NPCs, and what not which you may talk to once to see if there's anything going on and then happily ignore, just because it's obviously infeasible to make every instance tie into a quest or something else important. (And anyway I ignore parts of my environment everyday regardless )
green fulcrum
Seems like they gave them interesting personalities too
I know that the vampire dude is a massive tsundere.
river veldt
i like how animals in Lord of the Rings are shown that they're able to talk and have thoughts like a human but it's never mentioned again
like the fox in "A Shortcut to Mushrooms"
random steppe
The ||bear scene|| they showed was a gay scene, which was pretty cool for a big game to just show on a big stream to like, pretty much anyone.
green fulcrum
like the fox in "A Shortcut to Mushrooms"
I liked that fox. He was an adorable one-scene wonder.
river veldt
apparently he had more important business lol
green fulcrum
The ||bear scene|| they showed was a gay scene, which was pretty cool for a big ...
They have a lesbian almost-kiss in one of the trailers, iirc.
green fulcrum
And there's also a ton of other scenes in the most recent trailer that showcase a LOT of gay interactions.
Including ||hand-holding 
||
random steppe
I'm very curious, I love the Forgotten Realms, and this seems like it'll be an impressive representation of that world.
river veldt
i don't know anything about DND except that it inspired Doom partially
green fulcrum
You will actually be able to explore every bit of the city of Baldur's Gate.
Everything you see in the trailers? You can walk to it.
Or teleport. Or fly. Or hover.
green fulcrum
It was originally gonna be several sections, but they decided to group it into one MASSIVE city level.
green fulcrum
that's what Todd says and i have trust issues
Larian Studios is trustworthy. I will vouch for every member on that team.
random steppe
We'll see.
I kinda want to see how the character creation goes, from what they shown they added a lot since early access
Which I'm happy, the EA one was a bit restrictive
green fulcrum
I mean, it's early access.
fickle garnet
I like rpg games cuz i can make my character look like what i wanna look like irl
river veldt
only games im looking forward to the rest of the year are Super Mario Bros Wonder and Super Mario RPG remake
visual hill
I plan to get Rift Apart for PC once it gets cheaper
I didn't get a lucky code unlike Spider-Man :^)
fickle garnet
And spider man 2
random steppe
I must say, I did love all the Panel from Hell streams they did, all the cosplays, these people are such nerds.
river veldt
this has been a really good year for games
random steppe
And at least FFXVI released only on PS5 so I don't have to worry about that one
fickle garnet
FFXVI is super good
random steppe
But then Remnant 2, BG3, AC6, Starfield, City Skylines 2, Lies of P, Cyberpunk expansion (which I don't care about but a rework of the game mechanics will come with it so I'll check it out without buying the DLC)
They just don't stop.
Whoever is releasing anything in the next 2 months they are probably fucked
fickle garnet
I didn't really have to worry about that one either tho since we got it for my dad for fathers day
random steppe
Spiderman same thing for me, I don't plan to buy consoles
So while I would like to play it, it's at least one less game to worry about
river veldt
what games are coming out in August and September
random steppe
Basically that's the list I just gave, except I think City Skylines 2 is october
In that mess Payday 3 also releases
Which I just don't care about but some people will definitely love
river veldt
HOLY SHIT QUAKECON IS SOON
new Doom new Doom new Doom 🤞
Quake reboot Quake reboot Quake reboot
fickle garnet
I also dont have to worry about starfield or lies of p cuz gamepass
random steppe
Yes I definitely wouldn't play Lies of P if it wasn't for gamepass
river veldt
FNAF anniversary is also soon
minor plover
regarding speak with animals / speak with undead -- my take on it is that it's a good way for a DM or game designer to include riddle-grade hints on occasion, like, sometimes a player can pick up on "huge red man was here" and put it together with other hints
random steppe
Yeah I love keeping in mind that animals have a low int, or might pay attentions to different things than a human would
like rather than colors a dog might describe things by scents
minor plover
some animals can't see the same set of colors as humans
some animals are nocturnal so they'll naturally have been aware of nighttime stuff instead of daytime stuff
random steppe
Which is interesting, if you are looking for a murderer perhaps asking if someone that smelled of blood passed through there.
Which might be the murderer, or the local butcher, depending by contextual clues
How much they'll do that in the game we'll see tho
It's more of a tabletop thing
And different DMs do things differently
As a sidenote, the dragonborn looks so good that I'm kind of sad I'll be playing a elf the first time through probably
They really knocked it out of the park with that in BG3
minor plover
yeah, really depends on the DM or game designer how well speak with [dead/animals/plants] is implemented and what kind of info can be gleaned from it
visual hill
But then Remnant 2, BG3, AC6, Starfield, City Skylines 2, Lies of P, Cyberpunk e...
press The Crew Motorfest to pay respects
visual hill
Quake reboot Quake reboot Quake reboot
many people are expecting a Quake 2 re-release (like what happened to Quake 1 two years ago)
I wouldn't expect new Doom or Quake though
river veldt
a boy can dream
slim thorn
Most of it tbh sounds exaggerated to me. Sure, maybe you can *talk to animals*.....
for some reason this reminded me of Twilight Princess, where you can talk to Epona in wolf form, but she basically says "...this is super weird. I hope you go back to being human soon."
river veldt
Epona !!!!!! i love her
slim thorn
feels weird that only two games have an Epona
river veldt
?
visual hill
My Littl ePona
river veldt
OoT, MM, TP, BotW, TotK
slim thorn
oh right MM
river veldt
even if we aren't counting BotW/TotK because she's amiibo, Link's horse that he has in official artwork is referred to as Epona
slim thorn
I don't count BotW/TotK on this since Epona is just a name you could assign to a procedurally generated horse with no unique story or character; the unique horses that are in those games are not Link's trusty steed
oh I don't know anything about amiibos
hushed onyx
I always name AIs I create for ponies EPONA, the Electronic PONy Analogue.
Such a nice name.
Such a nice horse.
robust steppe
Disco Elysium for $12 if you subscribe to Humble Choice, you can cancel right afterwards and keep the game on steam
https://www.humblebundle.com/membership
green fulcrum
Epona !!!!!! i love her
river veldt
oh I don't know anything about amiibos
sorry i don't know why im so anal about Zelda
mossy flume
Yee I’ll probably play a lesbian character in BG3 (late response I know XD)
Hoping there will be plenty of LGBTQ relationship options in that game
mossy flume
Also speaking of romances in video games not everyone is bisexual in Cyberpunk 2...
Yeah there’s a balance between statistical realism and player choice to be struck there. I was mildly disappointed I couldn’t follow a specific romance, but it did give me a nice alternative.
fickle garnet
Same
I was female v and wanted to romance Panam
But you can only romance her as male v
visual hill
I just finished Super Mario Bros, because I kept seeing speedrun videos and wanted to finish it for myself. 
it's also a good excuse to look at Mesen2
river veldt
did you like it
green fulcrum
Yee I’ll probably play a lesbian character in BG3 (late response I know XD)
I'll probably play a bisexual character (unsure of the gender yet) and start a polycule if I can, lol.
visual hill
did you like it
yes, though I remember Mario being way less floaty for some reason… it's like he's on ice skates
random steppe
It's also interesting because they already confirmed we wont get all the way to lvl 20, I wonder if they are keeping some levels for DLC stuff
Or they were more comfortable not going all the way given how the later levels are pretty broken and hard to balance for in 5e
mossy flume
I'll probably play a bisexual character (unsure of the gender yet) and start a p...
Polycule would be great. It’s a bit unfortunate that poly relationships are basically never possible in games.
green fulcrum
Apparently it is possible in BG3.
green fulcrum
It's also interesting because they already confirmed we wont get all the way to ...
I'd love to have a secondary "epilogue" campaign that's unlocked after the main campaign is completed (or as DLC or something, sure), and that one takes you all the way until level 20. Imagine how awesome battles will be if you're fighting at level 20, haha.
random steppe
I actually don't remember if Baldur Gate games had expansions but I remember Neverwinter Night games expansions very well
So it's not a foreign concept
minor plover
BG1 had the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion, and BG2 had Throne of Bhaal (and then apparently some much later expansions and spin-offs)
dire gate
Numbers are out. Nintendo sold 3.91 million Switch during Q1 2024
Note that "2024" here is a fiscal year. Japanese fiscal years start and end in March, and use the year it ends
Q1 2024 means Apr 2023~Jun 2023
Nintendo is expecting 15mil hardware sales total, which is 16.5% decrease from last year. This will put Switch at about ~140mil total sales.
Unless they stop selling the console, it is likely that it will hit 150m+ at certain point, which means that it is possible that it will become the second and eventually the best sold console in history.
TotK sold 18.51mil copies
One interesting thing is that among 3.9mil hardware they sold, about 2.8mil were OLED model.
This includes the TotK edition.
gaunt marten
My brother wanted to buy Zelda edition switches and resell them at home since they're super expensive there
sage iris
why would I ever want those 
mossy flume
Metroid Prime 4 is likely going to be the last Switch game and also going to be a launch title for Switch 2, I’d wager.
Still listed as a Switch game but doesn’t preclude them from doing that
Here’s the full list of games on the docket incidentally
bleak lintel
We have an official list as of yesterday.
mossy flume
Ah yeah that’s easier than the IGN link
sage iris
BG3 dropping in 50 minutes 
mossy flume
MP4 could’ve been kicked to next gen entirely, who knows.
bleak lintel
Could be, they still list it as TBA even with the other two being 2024.
bleak lintel
There's also the question of what is a launch game for Switch 2, With Zelda and Mario being this year.
river veldt
im so excited for the Princess Peach game it looks so cool
rancid herald
in before it turns out they developed a whole other zelda game in secret alongside tears of the kingdom
bleak lintel
You play as ||Zelda in the past||
I have 30 mins and maybe more depending on download to decide which class to play in BG3.
dire gate
I like how the temp game title is literally just "A brand new game with Princess Peach starring as the main character"
bleak lintel
They should keep that name.
river veldt
i wonder wgat it will be called
bleak lintel
Hello, do you have Princess Peach will star as the main character in a brand new game?
dire gate
I like how the temp game title is literally just "A brand new game with Princess...
Yes, it is written like this even in the original JP pdf
bleak lintel
It's time.
random steppe
97.7 GB to download
bleak lintel
Let's all crash steam's servers.
uneven epoch
have fun
random steppe
It'll be a few hours anyway for me
bleak lintel
While you wait you can go over the rule changes from tabletop:
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/D%26D_5e_Rule_Changes
sage iris
download time
bleak lintel
Being able to cast level spells as an action and bonus is a change to note.
random steppe
Assuming the changes for rage from EA sticks to the current version, I'm definitely going to play a dex barbarian
bleak lintel
The expanded class list.
sage iris
6 hours 
random steppe
If I let it rip I could do it in 5 hours but then I wouldn't be able to use my internet for anything
And that's a bit much
Today's ideal since I'm gonna have guests over for dinner, so I wont be stuck looking at the download bar
That said, I hope they do get their ass out of my house not too late, or I might have to boot them out
sage iris
tell them to gtfo and go buy and play baldurs gate
young creek
<a:SeeleNoted:874736846259781692> There's also the question of what is a launch ...
It'll have been over 7 years since the last 3d mario so thats an obvious one
uneven epoch
please dont remind me how long ago 2016 was 
quiet swift
sage iris
quiet swift
static bluff
Isn't that insane
grim stirrup
I do have a gigabit connection <:ppenk:681838745611141137>
our "gigabit" only gets like 15MB
thorny loom
It'll have been over 7 years since the last 3d mario so thats an obvious one
Yeah. Generally one 3d mario per console
Galaxy was the exception
sage raptor
Bowser's Fury?
quiet swift
our "gigabit" only gets like 15MB
Ouch. How much you paying for it?
thorny loom
Bowser's Fury?
That was basically an expansion to a switch port of a wii u game
grim stirrup
Ouch. How much you paying for it?
£40ish split between 4 of us, shout outs to virgin media being a garbage company that has a monopoly
(monthly)
quiet swift
89 euro monthly here... but also virgin media
Are you guys still in the "first 12/24 month discount" period?
(yay, finished downloading, now in the verifying stage)
mossy flume
Hello, do you have Princess Peach will star as the main character in a brand new...
inb4 it’s called Metroid Prime 4: Samus Aran Stars as the Main Character in a Brand New Game!
grim stirrup
no, ours was a first 6 months discount, we're in a relatively busy area but not built up built up enough to get the good stuff
quiet swift
thorny loom
<a:gebbqpanic:646371840968753162>
Did you uninstall before doing that
quiet swift
I never had it installed
quiet swift
I see though it stopped downloading at 100gb out of 125 so something happened in the download
Yeah
random steppe
Our fiber is also pretty slow, since the last bit is normal copper wire.
But I can't complain, I'm in bum fuck nowhere.
Also it's pretty cheap
minor plover
$65/month here for gigabit fiber that actually gives me pretty close to gigabit speeds most of the time
uneven epoch
yall should prolly make a thread sooner than later
ya know, spoilers n stuff n its easier for focused discussion
untold vigil
Lets gooooo
arctic fern
yall should prolly make a thread sooner than later
good point
#1136698160698376203 now exists
dire gate
Bald Ur's Gate
green fulcrum
Ooooooh, I was off on my calculations! The game launches quite a bit before midnight for me, lol.
Damn though, that's a lot.
Luckily, I have 149 GB free for it. I just won't be able to do much torrenting for a while (that said, I've already got a lot of stuff, so I don't really need to either).
Sooooo, install it is!
astral steeple
mossy flume
I have a couple of these controllers and they’re pretty great
They’re also useful for PC
It has Hall effect joysticks
green fulcrum
Um, question for all BG3 downloaders/players: how do I access the digital soundtrack, artbook, and character sheets from the deluxe edition?
random steppe
I assume once it's installed you'll fine that stuff on steam, let me screenshot where it should appear
This is my guess at least
Doesn't appear for me for now tho
The deluxe edition is applied tho, so it should be somewhere, I'll check once it's fully installed
mossy flume
I’d bet it’ll be in the game files
green fulcrum
I don't even have the soundtracks or software boxes in that drop-down menu.
fickle garnet
I wish i had a gaming pc rn so i could play BG3
mossy flume
I’m at work and won’t be able to install it until tonight
random steppe
I wish i had a gaming pc rn so i could play BG3
There is an option even with weaker pcs if you want, but you probably want to wait its release on the console if you game mostly there
random steppe
Basically, some people are taking advantage of geforce now cloud gaming, it being a turn based game the latency isn't as important
fickle garnet
So i cant play it
green fulcrum
What I really want is a dedicated desktop for gaming, storage, work, etc. That way, I could have a 2-terabyte SSD storage which will enable me to have all my games installed at once with still plenty of space to spare for other things.
But such a thing is expensive, even if I build it.
fickle garnet
How big is your current ssd?
green fulcrum
256 GB. It's really small, but that's because it's a laptop, not a desktop.
fickle garnet
Oof
rose rose
A laptop could have a two terabyte SSD too
green fulcrum
456 GB
fickle garnet
My sister has a gaming laptop with a 512 gb ssd
green fulcrum
So about half a terabyte
green fulcrum
A laptop could have a two terabyte SSD too
Yes, but do I really want to experiment with cracking open my only good laptop so I can maybe put some better storage into it and then attempt to put it back together again and hope that it still runs perfectly?
rose rose
I'm sure there are shops that offer this service.
slim thorn
fwiw my (new) laptop has a ~1 tb ssd
green fulcrum
Alright, second question: how will I get all the stuff currently stored on my computer onto the new SSD, IF I decide to go to said shop that performs said cracking-open service?
visual hill
you can use cloning/imaging software if you want to transfer the OS
if you don't want to transfer the OS, good old Ctrl+C using an external drive enclosure
green fulcrum
Hmmmm...
I will think on it.
Having 2 terabytes of storage (or even just 1) on this laptop would mitigate sooooo many issues I have with it. Right now it's a game of uninstalling and reinstalling with games in order to ensure that I have enough storage space for other games that I want to play (like BG3).
Oh wow, the download is moving faster than I thought. It's already at 67%.
rugged flax
Steam's CDN is magic
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
slim thorn
it's funny how in software "magic" ended up as a pejorative
fickle garnet
Damn
visual hill
the Steam CDN is an impressive feat of engineering, same for SteamPipe
green fulcrum
Oh man, I've got the soundtrack, character sheets, and art book. There's sooooooooooooo much good stuff here! The inspiration I'm getting from the artbook alone is astonishing.
slim thorn
it's not an RPG unless you spend an hour on pre-game stuff
green fulcrum
Mortismal Gaming's review is up, and having watched many videos and reviews from this guy, I trust him with any and all RPG reviews. He knows what he's talking about and has a lot of experience with CRPGs in particular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h64EYMoLF8
I'll be watching it after I play the game myself, just to see how it compares.
mossy flume
Peach just set up my Steam Deck to download it. Will be ready when I get home. 
But also I have other work to do when I get home. 
rose rose
mossy flume
quiet swift
Meanwhile
Somehow i already have both for this week. Didn't think Loop hero had already ben there
wind stump
Didn't know Bloons TD6 was on EGS
it should be f2p in the first place, given the fucking microtransactions
green fulcrum
Oh shit, you can be non-binary in BG3! :D
thorny loom
green fulcrum
Or "other" (which includes all the other genders listed under the non-binary umbrella).
wind stump
I wonder if that was part of the idea of Microsoft acquiring Discord
But when talks fell through they were like "Ehhh fuck it, people still want this, we're still chill."
random steppe
Yep, voice gender body type and genitals are all separate selections, it's funny since it is one of the few inclusive option choices that arguably require less work than not doing it
sage iris
baldurs gate letsgooooooo
visual hill
Meanwhile
EGS is starting to be a broken record in terms of free games 😛
likely because it no longer needs to be as aggressive, or lacks the money to do so
I won't complain too much, my EGS backlog is still mostly unplayed with the exception of Control and A Plague Tale: Innocence
thorny loom
Yeah EGS realized they cant replace steam. So they’ve accepted the role of the Fortnite,UE, and free game launcher
visual hill
ironically, EGS is where you can find a lot of DRM-free AAA/AA games that aren't available as DRM-free on any other store
slim thorn
that moment when I really want to click "[Say Nothing]" but the game doesn't give me that option 
astral steeple
visual hill
Prism Launcher has the best first-time setup dialog I've ever seen. Cat selection
light gate
Every program must have a cat button.
green fulcrum
So, I finished my first few hours of playing Baldur's Gate 3. There is sooooooo much detail and so much to do in this game. Way more than in D:OS 2, even! I'm still in the first area after the Nautilus Ship and I feel like I'm being pulled in about fifteen different directions to do stuff.
This game is gonna take me a long time to play through, I know it. And I will love every second of it.
quiet swift
visual hill
I remember 6 years ago when everyone on this server was talking about D:OS 2
I wonder if D:OS 2 will receive the BOTW treatment from the playerbase. In other words, suddenly it becomes a "meh" game after its (spiritual) successor is released
visual hill
I am very behind on RPGs myself, haven't even played a Diablo game
fickle garnet
Ive only played one Diablo game and that was 4
dire gate
Holy shit Nintendo is doing a summer sale
gaunt marten
hidden elbow
I am generally not a rpg guy really , I mostly play metroidvanias , FPS ,stealth actions.
slim thorn
same, I'm just in the baldur's thread to hear the funny anecdotes
slim thorn
and so it begins
arctic fern
?
gaunt marten
The process of people recommending games to Ixrec that he doesn't want
haughty cradle
loop hero free on the epic games store
gaunt marten
Yes we already talked about this
wind stump
CODE VEIN is 82% off 
Oh sorry, the deluxe version is
fucking Banco
maybe I don't want the Deluxe Edition, how 'bout dat
gaunt marten
75% off
sage raptor
Code Vein was aight. Wasn't a fan of the story but it was fun to play
thorny loom
Oh sorry, the *deluxe version* is
fucking Banco
Cant wait for password Artery
river veldt
this doesn't seem like a big deal ?
river veldt
im not taking anyone who unironically uses "this is just like 1984" seriously
thorny loom
Well one of the changes is illegal under EU law so
Something else i didnt expect to ever see
green fulcrum
And have made every single minecraft server commercial
This is some buuuuuuuullshit exaggerating if I've ever seen one. Private servers like Hermitcraft or the Manechat server aren't affected by this, really.
Or at the very least ours isn't.
rugged flax
But have they changed the actual EULA?
eula ≠ usage guidelines
green fulcrum
-Servers with ANY content not suitable for 10 year olds are now prohibited
This is also bullshit exaggeration. The Manechat server has plenty of adults and mature language on it, even if we do try to keep it PG most of the time.
-Any server, piece of online content such as video or other may be taken down due to any reason whatsoever
As is this, and this can be fought in court.
thorny loom
green fulcrum
Literally 1984 guys...except not. All of this is perfectly reasonable and common sense. Even the "not an official product" thing is just to say that your player avatar OC being sold as a funko pop or something is not an official product of Mojang.
This Rock Solid fellow has a few of his namesakes in his head.
He's mad that he can't promote violence in 2b2t anymore.
thorny loom
I still think the lan restriction thing is bs
Like if someone wants to have a 200+ minecraft tournament whats the big deal.
green fulcrum
Except there's already a work-around that I can see
If you're streaming the event, any and all donations made to you are then donated by you to the charity of your choice. No sponsorships needed.
And they said nothing about wi-fi multiplayer.
slim thorn
yeah, the Minecraft community has a history of overreacting to reasonable policy changes and non-changes
(I assume its sheer size makes the hot takes worse than usual if you don't curate your sources)
rancid herald
reminds me of deviant art artists
wind stump
https://www.pcgamer.com/fortnites-adding-a-museum-about-the-holocaust/
please.
please fucking stop.
you should not learn about the holocaust from a fucking goofy kid-friendly battle royale
in fact i'm pretty sure trying to teach the holocaust in a game where you're dropped on an island and forced to kill each other will have the opposite effect of what the intent is
i get the idea
kids like fortnite
let's make it educational
but
please. stop.
i need a drink
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mo-kXjasZs Jeeeeez. Heat 32 is hard enough
slim thorn
I'm expecting a "but"
thorny loom
A speedrunner beat it i believe
quiet swift
No but from what I can tell
wind stump
Soon we'll have Heat 69
astral steeple
Something else i didnt expect to ever see
That's not by epic themselves
It's a UEFN Map by a Jewish game developer
It also has weapons, emotes, destruction, etc disabled as well
So pretty much a virtual museum
astral steeple
please.
please fucking stop.
you should not learn about the holocaust from a fuc...
It's not the battle royale mode
Creative mode is a whole separate thing
grim stirrup
it still feels in poor taste
astral steeple
Not at all
It's done with good intention to be a virtual museum
An educational tool
By a game developer who is jewish
slim thorn
perhaps we should move on from this topic
young creek
When are they gonna make a Mob Psycho game
static bluff
Complete with UFOs?
young creek
y
static bluff
golly
slim thorn
the people in #1136698160698376203 seem pretty happy with it
though I'm just spectating 
static bluff
Is it just Divinity: Original Sin II 2?
slim thorn
So, I finished my first few hours of playing Baldur's Gate 3. There is sooooooo ...
see some of ^these comments
but I think the tl;dr is "yes-ish but more"
static bluff
Yeah, kinda looks like it
thorny loom
Is it just Divinity: Original Sin II 2?
It takes divinity 2 and improves a lot on it
static bluff
I couldn't get into botw 2 because of how similar it was to botw 1. i'm worried i'll face the same issue here. but eventually i'll pick it up. It's a hard pill to swallow since we buy two copies for co-op.
thorny loom
If your unsure just wait for a bit
quiet swift
I couldn't get into botw 2 because of how similar it was to botw 1. i'm worried ...
Gameplay mechanics wise... well, the controls feel similar obviously but the way spells and combat and whatnot flows is diffrent. More D&D-ish than D:OS2 was, the latter had more flexibility with spells I believe. I'm struggling somewhat with BG3 atm for example
But by and large, if you liked D:OS 2, you'll like this
slim thorn
hm, is that the thing where mages have to prepare a set of spells and that's all they get to use that day?
quiet swift
yar
slim thorn
ok, my only experience with that is Planescape which probably doesn't count since none of the spells really affected story (and I had no idea what I was doing )
#Pentiment: oh boy, I think I'm gonna have to accuse someone before I have enough evidence to be sure who did it 
wind stump
Nitori canonically wants to get shit faced, lol
random steppe
hm, is that the thing where mages have to prepare a set of spells and that's all...
Actually yes and no, they allow you to swap spells pretty freely as long as you aren't in combat, but that depends on the class
slim thorn
No but from what I can tell
ah, apparently they lucked into the perfect build that people usually mod/seed for to make heat 64 barely feasible
and this is one of only 2 players who'd already beaten modded 64 heat, so I guess throwing one-in-a-million dumb luck into the equation was the only place left to go
wind stump
i enjoy playing the dumb birb cookery game
slim thorn
"if you get three butterflies the run's just over"
so I wasn't missing some trick to the goddamn butterfly rooms
wind stump
GODDAMN BUTTERFLIES
slim thorn
aaaaaaah I was so close 
if that dialogue tree had a slightly more neutral option earlier maybe I wouldn't have gotten that one debuff
...no, I don't think I will click on the "[Think about death]" option
slim thorn
welp, time to feel super conflicted about not knowing whether the guy being executed because of me actually did it 
thorny loom
welp, time to feel super conflicted about not knowing whether the guy being exec...
Look at it like this
If he was guilty you did a good job
If he wasnt. Well then whatever he owned is now yours
slim thorn
I'm calling it a win because I'm fairly confident the originally accused character is innocent, it wasn't me who rendered the actual verdict, and most of the cast more or less likes me despite all this unpleasantness
slim thorn
I got that vibe too, certainly nobody expected me to know
it feels like the best I could've done was identify a motive and a possible weapon for ~3 characters
I got 3 motives and 1 weapon (and what I'm pretty sure was weapon 2 but failed to figure out how to complete that part)
no lead whatsoever on who wrote the mystery notes though, I'm assuming there's no way to learn that until a later act
...ok, Guy dislikes me a lot more than I thought he did 
astral steeple
visual hill
I thought it was a real hero announcement for a second
slim thorn
every game has one of these achievements now
random steppe
Yeah.
I mean everyone is doing it so it should feel lame but it's one of those things that I just see as an objective good.
quiet swift
random steppe
green fulcrum
quiet swift
<a:handpat:721548477875617913>
visual hill
<a:kirintilt:548855261725589545>
Achievement unlocked: Pet 5 kirins.
teal cliff
I'm currently trying to find new games to play.
or at least like, new games to beat, I have some unfinished ones I could dive into.
river veldt
what machine do you have
teal cliff
I have a fairly good computer, in addition to a PS5 and a Switch that i do not have access to rn.
So, just a computer for now.
white phoenix
What games have you played so far?
static bluff
Have you considered Dyson Sphere Program?
teal cliff
What games *have* you played so far?
I've played a lot of games in my life so I'm not sure how to answer this.
river veldt
have you played Doom yet
static bluff
Oh you like games? Name every game
white phoenix
maybe some of your favourites
slim thorn
well, without any information you're just gonna get the equivalent of pressing the random button on google
teal cliff
maybe some of your favourites
So, I have a top 100 I was going to send
but I can't send images here
uh.
river veldt
oh you still have new pony
slim thorn
some subgenres or a Steam profile would be a starting point
teal cliff
wait top 100 *games*?
yeah I made a list.
fwiw this list has no franchise overlap allowed so like
rose rose
well, without _any_ information you're just gonna get the equivalent of pressing...
this prompted me to press the random button on google. It searched for "keming" and I spent far too long staring at the word.
teal cliff
I like more than Final Fantasy 12 for instance but 12 is the only one listed
slim thorn
looks at the top 20
teal cliff
this prompted me to press the random button on google. It searched for "keming" ...
Oh keming is fun, I follow a subreddit dedicated to it.
static bluff
I'm happy I picked a game that wasn't on your list
slim thorn
yep this is not a job for me
river veldt
having FNAF Security Breach is fucking based
teal cliff
yep this is not a job for me
wdym
teal cliff
having FNAF Security Breach is fucking based
Ruin secured it.
slim thorn
as in your top games are mostly in genres I don't play
teal cliff
oh fair enough.
river veldt
Ruin secured it.
YES true
teal cliff
I do tend to prefer RPGs and visual novels for gay people.