I paid full price for them out of choice
#general gaming
gaunt marten
Well having developed Among Us, I doubt they need the money really bad
arctic fern
No
Its not about needing the money, it's about the fact the stickman games were a great memory during my childhood
They earned that money a decade ago
I'm just glad I'm in a position to pay it
arctic fern
Indeed
gaunt marten
Is there a problem with the voice tracks?
They don't need a refresh. The rest of the game might
chilly mural
sour hill
Is there a problem with the voice tracks?
It depends on if they want to keep the exact same tone of the original cutscenes, which apparently they do. If this is supposed to be a 1 to 1 remaster, I don't see why they would re-record all the dialogue
Tbh, I don't really care about this remaster. The last remaster we had looks and plays great. It also looked and played great on the ps2, for that matter
random steppe
Idk, I replayed mgs 3 not that long ago and it didn't age that well IMO
It's okay for a ps2 game, the story is exceptional, but the gameplay is very clunky
Also you usually rerecord all of the voice lines, because in 20 years the audio technology avaliable to game studios made pretty huge leaps
I am sure there are software you can use to make lines recorded on 2004 equipment don't sound too terrible but it's probably not the same thing
gaunt marten
Yeah but you probably don't have the same voices as you did twenty years ago so by rerecording you lose them
random steppe
Yeah, it's okay, Nier replicant did it and it's also a chance to fix lines that didn't work too well in the original version.
In my experience of the remasters that did it, redoing the voice over turns out better
slim thorn
I'm not sure what to think of any of this. I played MGS1-3 before 4 came out, then 4, and the biggest reason why 4 is my clear favorite is that it's the only one where I enjoyed the gameplay. Even back then 1-3 were clunky enough that I often felt like I was cheesing it, or regularly getting stuck and needing to look up walkthroughs.
But I don't think that's because of age, I think it's because they were very experimental games. Death Stranding was clunky in much the same way.
for the moment-to-moment storytelling where voice delivery and such matters, I doubt it'd change that much for me; my main memory is being really into the intended story but constantly overlooking weird or awkward things because the game's so consistently weird "that's just part of its charm"
sour hill
I would very much like to see a reimagining of mgs 3 with mechanics similar to mgs 5, but I doubt that's what's going on here
random steppe
Yeah but you probably don't have the same voices as you did twenty years ago so ...
Also IMO, if you have to pass a 20 mb Digital file from 2004 into 12 different software to up its definition to modern standards, which is what they will have to do, it's barely more authentic than just rerecording the line.
slim thorn
for the moment-to-moment storytelling where voice delivery and such matters, I d...
and at the time that was a pretty standard experience for me, especially with games made in Japan; I'd say the same of every Kingdom Hearts entry
gaunt marten
Well ideally they have the original uncompressed PCM recordings
Those recordings would be studio quality and can be mastered to modern standards
So the actual differences would come from directing and hardware
sour hill
Well ideally they have the original uncompressed PCM recordings
One might hope
random steppe
It's Konami, I wouldn't necessarily count on it, but even if they do, it's not necessarily going to sound good enough from 2004 microphones.
It might
We will see the final product
gaunt marten
They should definitely not do what Square Enix did for Final Fantasy 8
sour hill
...have microphones changed that much? Speakers haven't
gaunt marten
(Instead of either taking the originals or creating remastered copy, they made worse MIDI files and used those to replace all the music)
sour hill
(Instead of either taking the originals or creating remastered copy, they made w...
That sounds awesome they should totally do exactly that
gaunt marten
Yes I just posted about that one
thorny loom
Oh i didnt see
random steppe
Square is the only company that is able to turn effortless easy wins into huge Ls.
thorny loom
Yeah better buy it as its gonna become abandonware soon
gaunt marten
Or you could simply not buy it
If you had no interest in it before, it's unlikely that you will now
thorny loom
Fair enough
Also for mgs3. This might be one of the few times having an ai reread/rerecord some of the lines be helpful in improving the audio quality
random steppe
Hahaha
thorny loom
Since quite a few actors are dead anyway
random steppe
Good joke
arctic fern
Or just hire new actors
thorny loom
I’ll probably just wait for a sale
arctic fern
(mostly because I just not a big mgs fan in general)
random steppe
I mean if they feel that the original lines they had are good enough, I am skeptical but we will see once it comes out.
thorny loom
The originals are getting ported also in an hd collection
slim thorn
(personally I was burned out on MG in general after finishing 1-4, so I still have no desire to play the 5s or any of this other stuff)
thorny loom
5 has great gameplay
slim thorn
now a Death Stranding 2 I'd be much more interested in
thorny loom
But the story falls apart half way through
But Thats mostly due to the whole kojami konami firiing
random steppe
I have no trust in Konami to remake a MGS without Kojima anyway, I think it will be a shit show, but I will happily eat my words if they deliver a decent product
sour hill
now a Death Stranding 2 I'd be much more interested in
Or a Totally-Not-PT-Under-A-Different-Name
slim thorn
or a Zone of the Enders 3
random steppe
I am so invested in Death Stranding
sour hill
It's a good game
slim thorn
I'm not sure the plot hangs together at all but it was such a wild ride
random steppe
Listen, Kojima is not a subtle narrator, the game clobber you with its themes at any chance it gets, but they are good themes and well reinforced by gameplay
sour hill
Also the monster energy product placement is legendary
slim thorn
I don't think that's what I was referring to
random steppe
It's a smart game for dumb people, Kojima is on a mission that even the densest motherfuckers won't miss on the overarching themes of the game.
slim thorn
but wow there's a lot in there I do and don't agree with and it'd take forever to untangle it
sour hill
but wow there's a lot in there I do and don't agree with and it'd take forever t...
Okay but what's your take on the use of monster energy?
random steppe
Which feels patronising when you catch on the themes the 1st time they are presented
slim thorn
couldn't care less 
thorny loom
Whats this about monster energy
sour hill
Play death stranding
slim thorn
Death Stranding has Monster Energy cans and kratta can't stop talking about it
random steppe
Lol
thorny loom
Oh its like a sponsored thing
random steppe
To be fair, the director's cut removes them
slim thorn
I guess I never had the patronizing problem because I was too busy being confused by everything beneath the most superficial version of the core themes lol
sour hill
You get energy by converting the acid rain into monster energy
sour hill
To be fair, the director's cut removes them
That's seriously fucked up
thorny loom
I use textured packs all the time that puts real world drinks and foods on stuff
river veldt
To be fair, the director's cut removes them
WHAT
random steppe
Probably they didn't pay for a 2nd inclusion
thorny loom
Thats my guess
random steppe
Or lost the license
thorny loom
Theirs easily a mod that can bring them back probably
gaunt marten
What's an example of a dumb game for smart people?
sour hill
Desert Bus
random steppe
Listen, the real fucked up thing is that SAM is not going to live past 45 because in my game I downed 3 fucking energy drink cans before starting my fucking day, every day.
sour hill
That's the way to do it
random steppe
The man liver is absolutely shot by now
slim thorn
I don't even remember the energy drinks, did they do anything for gameplay?
random steppe
They give you more stamina
gaunt marten
I'd hope they gave you energy
sour hill
I don't even remember the energy drinks, did they do anything for gameplay?
The description for the canteen says that it contains monster energy
So you were chugging monsters this whole time and didn't realize it
random steppe
To be specific, the cans in your room give you 10% extra stamina per can
Up to a max of 25%
And the canteen you use to restore some stamina
They just become generic in-world brand energy drinks in the DC
Which is a lot less immersion shattering
Still no less liver threatening tho
slim thorn
makes sense, the setting doesn't really have per-product branding any more
thorny loom
https://youtu.be/Tv9WxYbo2Io interesting proof of concept.
sour hill
I'm gonna mail a handwritten letter to kojima begging him to put monsters back in the game
slim thorn
...wow this person is slow at typing 
random steppe
I mean 2 is coming ouy.
river veldt
I'm gonna mail a handwritten letter to kojima begging him to put monsters back i...
make it really fancy looking and then seal it up with wax
gaunt marten
https://youtu.be/Tv9WxYbo2Io interesting proof of concept.
AI voice is pretty good but nowhere near replacing professionally recorded voices for a game.
sour hill
I mean 2 is coming ouy.
I don't really care if monster is in the sequel or not
random steppe
Wasn't bellular going back and literally voice act every quest in WoW and present it in a more sensible way?
Before Blizzard DMCAd his ass?
quiet swift
He did have a mod yes, but it was too much of a change of the game. Not sure about VA work tho
Lemme see if I can find it
young creek
if he was gonna charge for it thats always a big no no for addons
random steppe
I think they were community sourcing the voices
Which wasn't incredible, pretty amateurish, but still cool
quiet swift
"Warcraft Tales is an episodic World of Warcraft project that brings the original zones into the modern era! With a rewritten script, voice acting and a host of new narrative tools, we want to create a new way to enjoy World of Warcraft."
"...That is where Warcraft Tales comes in. We’re taking the old world and making it feel new. We have developed a host of new narrative tools and a UI that is inspired by the new Talking Head Frame that was added in Legion, so that you get a polished, Blizz-like experience.
We’re then rewriting the script, voicing the characters, and moving as much of the story out into the gameplay. Why have a NPC explain the story when you can experience it as you play through the content? "
He's taken down his announcement video for it, I think, and replaced it with the DMCA announcement
Apparently Blizz saw it not as a mod but as an expansion-level type of thing, which is a big no no and not allowed to be seen as a mod
Instead they released a full blown, unrelated to WOW game 
(which seems to be very good if the genre fits what you want)
graceful bridge
thorny loom
visual hill
It's Konami, I wouldn't necessarily count on it, but even if they do, it's not n...
high-end mics were already excellent in the 90s, the question is whether Konami used them back then
random steppe
It's the company that lost the whole ass source code of Silent Hill 2 as well, so like..maybe they have the uncompressed audio
I wouldn't bet my life savings on that
sour hill
It's the company that lost the whole ass source code of Silent Hill 2 as well, s...
Yep. And then they used an old version to build silent hill 2 HD. It had problems
Because reverse engineering from the official release is for nerds (and is how bluepoint made the MGS remasters)
thorny loom
Yeah dont play the hd collection
Just acquire a pc copy of 2 and 3 and get the fan patches for it
grim stirrup
gaunt marten
Problem with bundles containing every good game is I already have every good game
grim stirrup
slim thorn
is Rain World a Metroidvania? 
grim stirrup
barring hollow knight, a fair few of them have been on my "i want" list
slim thorn
well, anyway there's a few names I've never heard of, guess I'll keep those in mind
gaunt marten
I could definitely use lost ruins, haiku the robot and maybe lone fungus, but is worth nine dollars?
gaunt marten
Er, 15 dollars
I know Haiku the Robot is great. Lost Ruins seems neat. Lone Fungus I never heard of before.
gaunt marten
I could get Haiku the Robot and Lost Ruins when they go on sale for ~11 USD
young creek
why
gaunt marten
Literally everything about the knight is bad
The pose is bad, his legs are bad, the way he holds the nail is bad
young creek
hes trying his best
gaunt marten
This cover is a lot better
gaunt marten
Literally all the other covers are great
Including this one which is the same pose but better
dense crypt
Look at this DUDE
quiet swift
Example #2109809 that Kotick is a giant turd
green fulcrum
Look at this DUDE
cue "Nononono" followed by wheezing laughter
wind stump
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
visual hill
do you see a crewmate?
young creek
he always looked like a nice guy, being an evil goblin doesn't suit him
fresh bane
https://www.pcgamer.com/konami-is-officially-doing-the-most-boring-thing-possibl...
This decision is questionable for me, on the one hand, using the exact same voice lines means they're probably doing a 1:1 remake which is amazing, nothing in the overall structure of MGS' story and direction needs to change at all, on the other hand, re recording the voice lines or adding more with all the advancements that were made since the PS2 era would've been fantastic, MGSV was full of little details and interactions and I'd expect something on the same level
Still, overall I'm more optimistic about MGS than I am Silent Hill 2 Remake and the other projects, Ascension looked pretty bad already
sage raptor
The delta implies change. Turns out that was a lie. My interest is waning quickly.
dire gate
Time to call it MGS triangle
fresh bane
Delta is change without changing structure
I expect something like the Demon's Souls or Dead Space remake
sage raptor
Yeah but I was expecting more
fresh bane
Not me personally, this is one of the projects I'd be more than fine sticking as close to the original as possible
fresh bane
You can, but there's nothing that really needs to be changed about MGS3
dire gate
No no no
craggy vine
fresh bane
Especially without Kojima and his team
dire gate
You don't understand
They have to credit Kojima if you play the og game
If they make a new one they don't have to 
fresh bane
Not every remake needs to be a reimagination like Resident Evil
sage raptor
Oh snap
Jay has it figured out
I was just hoping this would be the start of a new take on MGS, and knowing that they're using the original audio means there can't even really be new content or surprises.
fresh bane
Which sounds fine by me, like I said without Kojima it'd be a huge mistake to drastically reimagine or change the MGS games, there's no need at all
Gameplay is fine, I expect an upgrade to MGSV gameplay
sage raptor
True. I don't mean to be super negative about it.
dire gate
insert Survivor
fresh bane
Direction, story, characters, etc
Those are as perfect as you can get
Mostly
MGS4 is still eh but we've talked about this before the franchise was already kinda done since MGS1-MGS2
What I'm worried about is Silent Hill
There's already a huge discourse over "Ascension looks awful, doesn't look or feel like Silent Hill at all and it looks generic and mid" vs "Be grateful we're even getting anything, it looks fine you're just a boomer who can't accept change"
I feel like Konami should've just made a single new SH project and reaaaally polish the fuck out of it, make sure it's good and people like it and then do more projects, because there's too many in development at once
slim thorn
keep in mind "the discourse" leaves out everyone who just thought it looked uninteresting and left to do something else with their free time
fresh bane
They wanna take my damn horsegirls away
slim thorn
if they succeed, you'll be forced to make do with... western horse girls 
fresh bane
Would western horse girls be like Cats but with horses?
slim thorn
anthro is a spectrum!
slim thorn
umamusume is amusingly at one extreme of the spectrum where you can barely tell it's not a human cosplaying
fresh bane
Yeah the so called kemonomimi
slim thorn
so you've told me before about your infinite force loop
but what force abilities do you use it on
grave tide
You start with some blaster strikes or on dual swords with triangle (force block)
slim thorn
since my usual problem is needing 100% of my brainpower on the core block/dodge/attack loop that I suck at and never have a clue what fancy attacks would be of any use
grave tide
You start with some blaster strikes or on dual swords with triangle (force block...
Dodge if you see red attack
After dual swords forced block you can deal some damage
But 3-4 blocks and your force will end
Some energized blaster attacks with common sword attacks
And you can restore force very fast
slim thorn
for no particular reason I'm now watching a youtube video called "Was it Good? - Chrono Trigger"
thorny loom
Well was it
slim thorn
I haven't finished the video yet
chilly mural
Can just play the original tho
Like with crash bandicoot
Oh fugg, I need a crash dance emote
grave tide
but what force abilities do you use it on
Remember me tommorow
I will turn on OBS and show how should it look
grave tide
I am sleeping
1 am
But I am watching some stuff
Okay, I should go sleep, If I don't forget, I will send a vid how should it work against bosses
slim thorn
yep, y'all've made me very aware of this character
mossy flume
Purah is good
static bluff
fresh bane
I don't not like Purah
But the internet made me dislike Purah now
Or at least, I guess I don't wanna think about Purah
gaunt marten
The classics are still there. You can still play them
chilly mural
I'm surprised captainmario is posting SF6 stuff
gaunt marten
I definitely like Street Fighters a lot less now that it's no longer 2D
river veldt
I'm surprised captainmario is posting SF6 stuff
why
i just saw it on Twitter and thought it was cool
i like seeing classic designs in modern graphics
like Classic Doomguy in Eternal
or the Hero of the Wild set in BotW
gaunt marten
It is very cool
river veldt
im probably not going to play SF6 though because i don't think it's coming to Switch
fresh bane
https://vxtwitter.com/streetfighter/status/1664028982529097728?s=46
fans of the classics
giving Juri her SF5 clothes and not her SF4 clothes
I still like that they gave Juri the actual uncensored design
chilly mural
yeah, that's a nice touch
fresh bane
Also that's Cammy's SFV outfit not her 'classic' look 
also also, somehow Cammy's outfit is even lewder
Oh wow
this is so much better than his official design
river veldt
Cammy's outfit is cute
fresh bane
I don't think I'd describe it as 'cute' but sure
I don't even think I can post it here
fresh bane
Kinda wish they kept her SFV proportions even though they kinda tried to give her some muscle
SFV Cammy, Chun Li and Juri are yolked
chilly mural
I am big fan of Chun-li using her classic outfit in this game
fresh bane
Surprisingly I actually like the new design better by only a little bit
but it does feel nice seeing her in her iconic threads
quartz pawn
toxic seal
Boutta fuck me up some conquistadores
white phoenix
nice to see someone exploring this part of history
yt comment: "Once one of the conquistadors coughs on you, it's game over"
...
chilly mural
lmao
fresh bane
Cough on your fist to apply poison/toxic damage to your attacks
fresh bane
maaan you can really tell the difference between the two games visually when you see them side to side like this
CSGO doesn't even look bad at all but the vibrant colors, the gorgeous lighting and the updated... everything of CS2 just looks immaculate
dire gate
I mean it would be terrible if they look same
fresh bane
Yeah of course, but CSGO already looks... alright enough, it doesn't look drastically outdated like CS Source or CS 1.6
But CS2 just pushes that even further, especially with the other changes to the physics and smokes and all that razzle dazzle
I appreciate the more vibrant palette myself
CSGO is one of those games from the era where everything had to be brown or some washed out palette like that
visual hill
it's a late PS3/X360 game at its roots after all
later updates did a good job with adding more colorful maps, but when you go back to Overpass it's hard not to notice
hidden elbow
This is just......bad
https://youtu.be/jcuNpWd-G6g
All these games except 3d are still unavailable in steam or gog ,and now they are ported on a nish retro handheld console
Ai generated Duke as a cover art as cherry on a cake
slim thorn
yeah...
thorny loom
Tbf. It was much bigger deal in 2005 or whenever when it was announced
gaunt marten
I don't think something that unknown can even really be called controversial
It made it to the news back then but the only notable thing about it is the reason it got banned
slim thorn
sounds about right
these days just having rule 2 issues isn't enough to get people talking about a game
wind stump
I can't tell if that means we're more mature about what we put in games or we're just plain jaded.
slim thorn
I think it's more that video games in general are "normal" now, so people no longer consider a game with offensive content to be some sort of novelty worth discussing, the same way a movie with offensive content (and nothing else of interest) is not a novelty and you just won't go see it
wind stump
That does make sense, actually.
slim thorn
10+ years ago would also be back when Rogert Ebert famously said games can't be art, and everyone in games journalism felt the need to object to this idea by waxing lyrical about Shadow of the Colossus or Okami or whatever
these days a statement like that would get little more than an "ok boomer"
wind stump
So the fact that games are generally accepted as a form of media now means that contreversial content is no longer that well, contreversial.
Makes sense.
slim thorn
(also, back then I was still reading "games journalism" 
)
wind stump
The only good games journalism is still James Sterling
slim thorn
yeah now it has to at least be in a game that people consider interesting for other reasons, such as GTA V
wind stump
and Yahtzee
slim thorn
I kinda fell off Yahtzee when it became clear he disliked almost everything and/or was exaggerating for the video lulz
wind stump
Yeah
slim thorn
not unlike CinemaSins, come to think of it
slim thorn
I'm also free
arctic fern
just quit
duh
untold vigil
I would lose my house 
rugged flax
a house seems like a thing that you should not lose
arctic fern
how would you lose your house? its a house, its not like you can just put the house on a different nightstand and forget about it
wind stump
is your fridge running?
light gate
How is this running?
I'm running at a 2240x1260 (with Metal 3 Upscaler) Gives me like 45-60 FPS. M1 8-cpu 8-gpu config
If I run it natively @ 2240x1260, it runs around 25-35fps.
What kind of eldritch wizardry is this?
quiet swift
🪄
light gate
I do not want to know the performance of an M1 Ultra.
That scares the shit out of me.
river veldt
I kinda fell off Yahtzee when it became clear he disliked almost everything and/...
i feel the same way
mossy flume
https://twitter.com/nomanssky/status/1664253093360422912?
Sounds like Apple VR support
The device should be announced next week
Sean already showed a VR Support listing on Steam recently
Along with an Apple emoji
Thing is, if Apple implemented native support for Vulkan a lot more devs would be able to easily port their games to macOS and iOS …
green fulcrum
https://kotaku.com/legend-of-zelda-tears-kingdom-tlok-steal-japan-amazon-1850493...
Madlads, lol.
teal sonnet
Along with an Apple emoji
yeah that was a massive giveaway
and the thing is rumored to have two M2 chips
so will be powerful as fuck
can’t wait for monday
rancid herald
this is just warriors
gaunt marten
Warrior Cats uses annoying terminology though
rancid herald
Warrior Cats uses annoying terminology though
?
quiet swift
Hmm. Felidae was a great book. Wonder how it would work as a 'whodunit' type of videogame 
gaunt marten
?
Stuff like kittypet or twoleg kit or halfbridge -- terms like these are really annoying
slim thorn
for a while my family was calling our actual pet cats "kittypets"
gaunt marten
I hate it so much
slim thorn
and I find that hilarious
gaunt marten
sour hill
Excuse me sir, but Finnegan's Wake is a highly regarded work of literature
river veldt
im glad they added the stipulation that Tolkien is fine because i was about to throw hands
sour hill
I feel like A Clockwork Orange should get a pass as well
slim thorn
well, the serious reply is
this is of course a rule of thumb referring to the laziest kind of world-building, where the fictional world is basically identical to ours but you've swapped out 10-20 English words for fantasy-sounding words
when you actually build a fictional language, culture and world the right way, a bunch of untranslatable words fall out naturally and your readers will want to remember them
untold vigil
I'd say it's more that it makes things much more difficult to remeber
If you say the word "elder" it's like "okay i get the gist"
Unless the thing is distinct ENOUGH to need its own word that doesn't exist in the language the story is writ in
slim thorn
yeah, they should mostly be used for things that don't exist in the real world, and are already memorable for that reason alone before you attach a word to them
untold vigil
Like, say, a surprising number of gender swapped roles
sour hill
I brought up a clockwork orange as a counterexample, because its language has so many made up words for things that are not fantasy related in the slightest. It's kind of annoying and seems like a dumb idea, but I think it actually adds a lot
Page 1 of 5 of a glossary (the original book has no glossary)
slim thorn
iirc the idea there was to basically make up a future slang dialect that reflects where this world is at and the protag's place in it?
sour hill
Yes
slim thorn
that and the viewer/reader is not meant to learn every word of it
sour hill
It makes it very hard to read, but it also makes it feel really immersive
sour hill
that and the viewer/reader is not meant to learn every word of it
Of course, but there are many that crop up consistently, so you end up learning quite a few
I still think "eggywegs and lomtiks of toast" very often when I make breakfast, lol
grave tide
The most funny boss in the history of videogames
dire gate
Does he roll
rancid herald
idk, I always find attempts to redefine the world through words for that sort of story kind of charming, certainly moreso than authors who straight up don't even bother
slim thorn
I get where the comic is coming from, which is why I was trying to make a distinction above
e.g. for me "kittypet" works because it's not just a weird alternate way to say "cat that is also a pet", it's expressing a cultural contempt for that soft bougie lifestyle
rancid herald
exactly
Other than twolegs I don't really remember any other particular terminology
wind stump
That is not a plan b rosanna
That is some hardcore revenge though. And karma.
(Nikkes are basically androids with human brains, so you can break all their limbs and whatnot but destroying the brain will kill the Nikke)
gaunt marten
Other than twolegs I don't really remember any other particular terminology
I found a list! https://antifandom.com/warriors/wiki/Clan_terminology
fresh bane
I love this little celebratory dance they got going on
ratJAM ratJAM
oh no
we've jammed too hard
I love that Woolie refers to the guards as ''the Cammy army''
they kind of are Dolls huh
grave tide
No sound because OBS record my dualsence audio
And instead game you can hear only bass boost
light gate
<:rdlol:588652359643824128>
||”SO WEIRD”||
sage raptor
<:rdlol:588652359643824128>
Are you running the memoria mod?
fresh bane
I'm not playing it I'm just watching a stream but they're playing it with the HD mod
Moguri Mod
oh god this fucking guy
his design is like they wanted Sephiroth but even thirstier
gaunt marten
Kuja is too horny
fresh bane
(also how the fuck did Garnet come out looking so pretty when her mom looks like that )
gaunt marten
<:ponee:925951532585861150>
Imagine being born in Cleyra and being named Claire
This is like a guy named Brett being born in Britain
fresh bane
UuUuUUuGHH bad touch bad touch 
fresh bane
This is like a guy named Brett being born in Britain
I'm Briton, from Britain /s
fresh bane
FFIX is so good <:twimerp:751142908236922950>
So far it's pretty good
I really like the aesthetic a lot more than sci-fi modern FF
slim thorn
<@283037539755884554> Tried to record first boss fight I would met
I sort of get it now lol
quiet swift
ratJAM ratJAM
fresh bane
the rats do be jammin
sage raptor
Does he know?
quiet swift
fresh bane
Does he know?
do I lack critical information?
fickle garnet
Neat
gaunt marten
do I lack critical information?
||Wouldn't you like to find out!||
sage raptor
green fulcrum
do I lack critical information?
Is that a Tremors 2 reference?
gaunt marten
"He lacks critical information" is a meme
green fulcrum
Ah
white phoenix
he doesn't know -> he lacks critical information
river veldt
does he know riddler face
river veldt
ooh
light gate
Kick the summer off by drifting away with these incredible colors!
Jokes aside, they do look nice.
But at this point its best to wait for the second gen Switch.
(If any exist)
light gate
Kowalski, analysis.
“Mix up your next get-together with the Everybody 1-2-Switch!™ game. Grab some Joy-Con™ controllers* or smart devices** for team-based games that are easy to set up and feature everything from balloons to aliens, and more! People at your next party can get moving and show off their teamwork in this multiplayer mashup.”
light gate
30 bucks
fresh bane
isn't Mario Party the default party game for get togethers?
river veldt
yeah
idk why this exists ngl
barely anyone remembers 1-2 Switch
the horse mask brings back memories of 2014
chilly mural
Nire, are you gonna play Street Fighter 6?
sage raptor
fresh bane
sage raptor
timezones 
chilly mural
mossy flume
According to copies of communication that the Dolphin Team provided to The Verge, Valve helped Nintendo kick Dolphin out — first by bringing the Wii and GameCube emulator to Nintendo’s attention in the first place, and second by unilaterally deciding to pull the plug without giving Dolphin an out.
hidden elbow
People : Valve had to do it because they were scared of Nintendo!
Valve is a huge company ,not an indie developer ,they have nothing to be afraid of
Steam is basically their cheat for infinite money
mossy flume
People : Valve had to do it because they were scared of Nintendo!
That’s actually what happened. According to this, Nintendo threatened to sue Valve for hosting copyright circumvention technology. Which is explicitly forbidden in the DMCA.
Thus Valve decided to proactively ban Dolphin.
Ignoring the fact that RetroArch exists
Valve notified Nintendo out of courtesy that Dolphin announced intent to list on the Steam store, then Nintendo was like “cool, now if you allow this to actually happen we’ll sue you for hosting illegal content,” so Valve was basically bullied into it. Given that Dolphin does ship with Nintendo’s private cryptographic key, there’s actually a decent legal case to be made there.
Now if Dolphin changes their architecture to require the user to provide the GameCube and Wii BIOSs, then this mess probably couldn’t happen.
At that point the entire program is legally fine.
Including the keys makes it legally problematic
dire gate
I'd still not phrase it as "Valve being scared of Nintendo's legal team", it'd be "Valve didn't really want to be a part of this mess"
fresh bane
The reason why they had to take it out of Steam was because they did put a version of Dolphin with stuff like bios and keys in it, which to my knowledge isn't usually the case, or, at least, they could've uploaded a version without those
dire gate
What people want to tell with that sentence is that "Nintendo is the evil one pushed valve to remove Dolphin forcefully"
It's more like Valve saw it, asked Nintendo, they said "yeah no" and Valve thought "well we don't argue that"
mossy flume
Aye, which is silly. There are important nuances to the whole thing.
The problem with excluding the keys, of course, is usability
Provides a technical barrier to entry that the Dolphin devs want to avoid
dire gate
Unlike most emulator cases this one is definitely a fight Dolphin can't really fight
mossy flume
Yep
dire gate
And Valve probably knows it at certain degree
They don't want to be a part of this "likely losing" fight
mossy flume
Given how the TotK leak caused Nintendo to go on a DMCA spree, it wouldn’t surprise me if the whole Dolphin project sees legal challenges down the road
dire gate
The whole thing is pretty clear in the article;
Valve saw Dolphin and reported it to Nintendo to check the legality.
Nintendo said "hell no that one has the key"
Valve were like "yo Nintendo says this, we have to remove you unless you have something else to say"
Dolphin be like "well that is actually true :/"
It feels like Dolphin was pushing the line more and more until Nintendo says "no"
fresh bane
If Dolphin simply uploaded a version with no keys or anything they probably would've allowed it, Nintendo would've whined like always but ultimately they can't get rid of emulators themselves, but they either messed up or tried to push it too far so I'm not surprised Valve shut it down
dire gate
Nintendo is pretty clever, they usually only start such dispute when they have legal highground
Like whatever fans think, they usually have certain legally acceptable point
And unlike the common misconception, US copyright law is not as "forgiving" as many people think
I mean it is the law to protect Mickey Mouse, it can obviously protect something else
quiet swift
gaunt marten
The worst thing is retroarch has a dolphin core and Valve doesn't care about that
quiet swift
Probably a rather high up C suite person. Basically some snowflake found it a bit too on the nose... despite the Venture Co (as a lore entity in the game) has existed in since 2004, and the lines are very in character for those NPCs
(4-5 post long thread, worth a glance)
little badger
@slate star Trophy list for F1 23 has been released! https://www.truetrophies.com/n23550/f1-23-playstation-trophies
slate star
<@729567778616508548> Trophy list for F1 23 has been released! https://www.truet...
I only have a xbox 360s
little badger
I only have a xbox 360s
Ah
thorny loom
Given how the TotK leak caused Nintendo to go on a DMCA spree, it wouldn’t surpr...
Realistically. I doubt it
Nintendo would have too little to gain and its already in generally unknown territory. They dont want to risk losing it and then their one out of stopping security bypass software be gone
And if they did win sure you stop the development of an emulator.
But now you get to again play wack a mole with download links like with rom sites already and you earn the ire of gaming community and industry for essentially killing game preservation
heady bridge
https://www.pcgamer.com/capcom-wants-to-know-what-resident-evil-remake-you-want-...
Is it bad I want a Survivor remake as I feel that has the most to gain from one?
gaunt marten
Remake 4 again
untold vigil
Remake one again you fucking cowards
gaunt marten
But this time do it with static camera
peak mesa
Evercade got duped apparently by the artist. I may say both sides are wrong; Evercade/Blaze Entertainment should have done some research first.
icy crescent
when you finally have that ability to see everything on the map
grave tide
I still can't understand I am playing real Grandmaster difficulty
Because I kill bosses in 1-2-3 attempts
There is only 1 boss I can't kill right now
Oggdo and Oggdo Bogdo
icy crescent
it is hard, i almost think it's impossible to beat but i finally managed to beat em
the strat i use is throwing off my lightsaber with the ahsoka stance
oh also with that lightsaber throw damage perk
grave tide
I have idea to combine Blaster and Dual Wield stances
Because against bosses this is devastating combination
sage raptor
Having a life is overrated
wind stump
Interesting, the text says Bon appetiet but the voice says Itadakimasu (Let's eat)
slim thorn
Interesting, the text says Bon appetiet but the voice says Itadakimasu (Let's ea...
it's funny how this strikes us as odd because... well I assume it's because bon appetit is "obviously French" and thus a "third language"?
the line between well-known foreign word and loanword is so fuzzy
dire gate
(Me playing Zelda with English sub and Japanese dub)
wind stump
Here too, text is "Howdy handsome!"
Thoguh I can very clearly hear "Onii-chan" (Big brother)
unreal idol
I just want to know why they were stupid enough to send the emu to steam
like this should be a "duh" moment
It's meme-ier than me trying to set up a business meeting with 4kids to secure the rights to Doremi (I actually attempted this, got walled pretty hard by the initial phone calls)
slim thorn
the most plausible interpretation I've seen posted so far is that the Dolphin devs have been boundary pushing for a while, and this was merely the step where Nintendo had an airtight case to push back with
why RetroArch is still on Steam I have yet to hear any theories for
unreal idol
But why would you boundary push unless you had a good probability for success
slim thorn
that one I just don't know enough details to guess
unreal idol
The only reason I approached 4kids was because 1) Toei knew Doremi-Fansubs existed, and turned a blind eye to us as long as we didn't release anything that they were actively selling in North America, and 2) 4kids had already attempted to sue us out of existance but lost
I'm not scared of Toei, not in a million years unless I were trying to like fuck with One Piece or something
But Nintendo I'd be shitpants terrified of
slim thorn
lol
rancid herald
Personally, it feels a bit like the same with the internet archive thing and ebook lending
slim thorn
oh, I'm not up on these cases
unreal idol
same
Honestly if they wanted to avoid this mess, just don't send Steam versions with the BIOS files
We already have to hunt down PS1 and PS2 BIOSs for emulation, and they are not hard to find
thorny loom
I just want to know why they were stupid enough to send the emu to steam
In fairness retroarch is on steam so its not lile there isnt no emulators at all on there
But yeah key thing yeah that’s all on them
slim thorn
(figuring out which one you need is still a huge pain though)
rancid herald
the long and short of the IA thing was that a bunch of publishers sued IA and won the case that they were infringing the copyright of the publishers
unreal idol
Oh ew
rancid herald
because they were scanning books and then lending out the scanned copies
unreal idol
I can't comment on Retroarch because I haven't messed with it in years, I got mad at how difficult it was to use
thorny loom
why RetroArch is still on Steam I have yet to hear any theories for <:rdwut:3997...
Retroarch cores don’t require bios files or anything
rancid herald
they've been doing it for years but the trigger for the lawsuit was back in 2020 when they decided to drop the lending restrictions
slim thorn
that depends on the core
unreal idol
Copyright law is weird
thorny loom
They also dont include ones that do specifically ps2 and dolphin
On the steam version
slim thorn
RetroArch often doesn't need a bios when the underlying emulator would, but it's complicated
rancid herald
(under normal operations, they're only supposed to lend out an ebook on a 1:1 basis. IE, one scaned copy == one lent ebook copy. But for the pandemic they decided to just turn that off)
unreal idol
I'm just bamboozled by the thought process the Dolphin team had
thorny loom
And as pk pointed out as an example
rancid herald
shockingly, this is a massive copyright violation that absolutely is not legal lol
slim thorn
ah so that's how the steam version works
well good thing I downloaded it the normal way
rancid herald
but it ended up putting the whole scanning book-to-ebook thing under a microscope and the judge didn't find it was fair use
thorny loom
Finding ways to use emulators is extremely eays
slim thorn
eeeeeeh
unreal idol
It depends but broadly speaking, it's not hard
thorny loom
It took me two minutes to find out a a way to download switch keys to use on an emulator on YouTube.
rancid herald
Which brings me back to my original comment: I think for several decades a lot of IP holders have been letting shit slide and it's given certain groups of people the impression that fair use is far more extensive than it (probably) is legally
unreal idol
Some games, and some systems, are really fussy to emulate accurately, or in a non-busted way
Like emulating the N64 makes me want to drink bleach because it's awful
rancid herald
With Dolphin, putting itself on stream is in the same sort of vein as this
slim thorn
I think the better way to put it is that emulators are unreliable, not hard; when they can't be made to work it's not like you can practice for ten hours and get better at emulating like with the actual games
thorny loom
Mind you i didnt since i dont have a use for a switch currently
unreal idol
I think the better way to put it is that emulators are _unreliable_, not hard; w...
laughs in BSNES
RIP Near
thorny loom
Regardless i feel dolphin will correct this issue in a future update and tell people to source their own keys if they want to play wii games going forward
mossy flume
why RetroArch is still on Steam I have yet to hear any theories for <:rdwut:3997...
RetroArch doesn’t include proprietary code or keys.
Dolphin does
unreal idol
maybe I should give Retroarch another try
slim thorn
thorny loom
Yeah if it requires any you have to source yourself
unreal idol
It's appealing sounding but when I mess with it, I always find myself frustrated with tweaking it
slim thorn
I dunno what to tell you; I didn't need to play with bioses nearly as much under retroarch, and I don't know why
mossy flume
RetroArch expects the user to provide BIOS where applicable whereas Dolphin basically baked it in.
mossy flume
In a lot of cases you can avoid dealing with a BIOS anyway
slim thorn
(I think it was only the PC Engine Super CD-ROM core that I needed to get a fancy bios for and even that was because Rondo of Blood expects some non-standard extention to that system???)
thorny loom
The irony with the ps3 emulator is it just has you download the firmware straight from sonys servers
unreal idol
first time I had to deal with BIOS stuff was PS1 emulation
thorny loom
Same pk
unreal idol
Then the plugins with Project 64 which in practice might as well be the same thing
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991035259971833906/1113524881334743160/Screenshot_20230531_125007_Chrome.jpg live image of me when I finally got the transfer pak to work on Project 64 so I could emulate Pokemon Stadium
thorny loom
Heh
icy crescent
trying a new style 
quiet swift
Which one is that? I can't remember what name is which for the style
icy crescent
I think it was Diligence mix up with Hunter I guess for the lightsaber
quiet swift
icy crescent
BD-Astro mix-up with scrapper for BD-1 i think
quiet swift
I made my gun look like it's completely made of beskar
icy crescent
I don't remember much about the Blaster style names because I never use the blaster 
quiet swift
oh it's more the coloring of it
gaunt marten
Retroarch cores don’t require bios files or anything
Dolphin does not require bios files or anything either. In fact, Retroarch contains a copy of Dolphin
quiet swift
icy crescent
Isn't beskar color are like dark metal?
icy crescent
the only beskar color I recognize is from mando armor
dire gate
nice damascus pattern
visual hill
(figuring out *which one* you need is still a huge pain though)
for PS1, the PS1-on-PSP BIOS is the definitive one: region-free, sometimes better performance
wind stump
I am not forklift certified~
dire gate
Teardown?
wind stump
yes
Nobody will suspect a thing.
Wait this game gives you a SHOTGUN?
Oh my god this isn't a shotgun
IT'S THE FUCKING SUPER SHOTGUN
dire gate
You need Master Spark
quiet swift
I am not forklift certified~
Just watch Stapelfahrer Klaus. You'll learn everything you need to know
wind stump
but if i get forklift certified then i can't use them as battering rams
and those are very important for my morally dubious quest to destroy things
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-lc70Mjp-U Then Klaus' lessons are right up your alley!
wind stump
Why do I feel like this will end in violence?
fresh bane
https://tech4gamers.com/stalker-2-dev-200gb-data-leaked/?
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
quiet swift
Why do I feel like this will end in violence?
wind stump
I knew I shouldn't have trusted the Germans!
river veldt
Oh my god this isn't *a shotgun*
IT'S THE FUCKING SUPER SHOTGUN
OMG
gaunt marten
I like how instead of alphabetical order it was all the girls first
fresh bane
and of course best girl goes first
flint iron
My favorite is Ken's because of knowing his situation in sf6 which makes it hit hard when he either continues or falls
thorny loom
slim thorn
finally starting to find some of these optional bosses myself
I love how Merrin leaves you to fight this thing alone just for lulz
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lav4mmpR9MQ& if you were wondering about gollum gameplay, here's some running commentary. Game condensed into about 20 minutes
fresh bane
Half Life 1 on Source 2 is trippy
low poly late 90s models and textures but with super cool real time lighting and shadows
white phoenix
quake rtx be like
thorny loom
I can accept remasters of valve games in source 2
Would like it better if we got new games entirely but
mossy flume
Yeah. I figured this wouldn’t happen after they missed their initial release schedule and never mentioned it again.
Aspyr seems to only be capable of porting games and not developing them in any capacity.
quiet swift
young creek
they were right though (pics not related)
quiet swift
Crew cut?!
slim thorn
to be fair, Rick shows up after a decently long sequence of more challenging fights, so I could imagine people being on their last sliver of health and making a stupid mistake on him
quiet swift
There should be an "eternal shame" achievement for that
slim thorn
I wonder if Rancor is just the first one or all of them
(are there more than 2? I've met 2)
visual hill
interesting to see the difficulty breakdown
4% of Jedi Grandmaster but it feels like it's 15% of the playerbase
slim thorn
yeah, that is a stat I'd love to see for more games
oh I would've bet money on the grandmaster players being a vocal minority lol
visual hill
is the game harder than Fallen Order?
icy crescent
since Fallen Order can't fast travel i think Fallen Order is harder
icy crescent
https://www.gamesradar.com/star-wars-jedi-survivors-wimpiest-boss-has-killed-489...
i was almost died to him too, cause i was also trolling and just parrying all of his attacks to my last stims
slim thorn
I let him attack me once, but just did the counter attack as soon as I landed the parry
feels better than immediately overpowering him with one of my force moves
random steppe
I am in the minority for both the difficulty and using the 2 least used stances 
To be fair, I might switch back to one blade sooner rather than later
slim thorn
I guess "most popular stance" is a weird stat considering most of them are really not intended to be your go-to default stance
I used 4/5 on a regular basis
random steppe
That said the blaster is so useful to take out the cringe weak robots of the bedlam raiders
slim thorn
but the B1s are so much fun to slice and dice
icy crescent
Crew cut?!
ngl i never tried the blaster stance, Ahsoka and Kylo style always in my deck
slim thorn
(still wish they'd let you use any stance at any time though)
random steppe
I think 3 would be better
slim thorn
it'd be less bad but I don't understand restricting it at all
random steppe
Switching between 5 could have been a bit fiddly tho
icy crescent
that's fair
slim thorn
it just immediately crushes any desire to experiment with the stances I'm not already used to
quiet swift
There's these two more as well but they're less interesting
slim thorn
nah you could just have holding left or right bring up a radial menu, that sort of thing has been common since the PS2 era
random steppe
Like, with 3 at any time you could switch to the other 2 without adding extra buttons
quiet swift
Also that last stat is a filthy lie
icy crescent
There's these two more as well but they're less interesting
i still not able to do Bounty Hunting somehow...
quiet swift
There's a bug, actually, that prevents it for some
slim thorn
"holotactics"?
I'm not sure if I've even run into a bounty hunter since Caij finally talked to me about that system
quiet swift
That kinda hologram chess thing seen in one movie
slim thorn
feels like she showed up right after I finished all the scripted bounty hunter fights
quiet swift
Yeah i think it's buggy
slim thorn
oh that's what that game is called
icy crescent
There's a bug, actually, that prevents it for some
no wonder, the quest said i need to talk to her but she ain't talk shit about bounty hunting, so how do i fix this thou?
slim thorn
yeah I've yet to see any holochess thing pop up in my JS playthrough
random steppe
I did unlock that minigame but man I really don't give a shit about it
quiet swift
icy crescent
so... i wait?
quiet swift
slim thorn
welp, now I want to do more of my JS cleanup, but I've still got ~3.5 hours of TV I "need" to watch first
yesterday I only manged enough time to do the Jedha marble puzzles, didn't even look inside the thing it unlocks yet
although come to think of it there was a bounty hunter trio waiting under the 2nd marble puzzle
quiet swift
I did find an npc that talks about the holotactics, just haven't talked to them at the saloon yet
slim thorn
I didn't see any messages about getting a puck though
so how is the bounty stuff supposed to work?
quiet swift
icy crescent
quiet swift
slim thorn
oh the 2nd one's on Coruscant, I haven't been back there yet
the video skips over however you're supposed to discover that so if there's more to it than random exploration I still don't know whether I've hit a bug or not
quiet swift
slim thorn
still looks like Sora with a hangover
slim thorn
his face hasn't moved a muscle since the last scene 
wind stump
Yeah, that's just how portraits work in this game engine.
His expressions do change I assure you.
slim thorn
oh yeah I'm familiar with VNs
it just feels like he might be the type of character who in-universe really didn't change facial expressions at all
wind stump
Well that's how the cutscenes work lol
The actual game is more akin to Fire Emblem or similar Tactical RPGs
Which is weird because this game is a sequel to a traditional RPG, but ehhh it's still fun (if somewhat tedious)
slim thorn
some tedium is traditional after all
wind stump
also i can't stop thinking of Sherman as Dio
especially not when his Stand- I mean Stand- I mean Fairy starts talking
river veldt
That kinda hologram chess thing seen in one movie
Dejariik?
river veldt
yeah that's dejarik
they sell physical dejarik sets at Galaxy's Edge and i really want one
wind stump
graceful bridge
Speculation is that, since the mod author is anonymous, Aspyr's lawyers said "nope."
wind stump
Hmm, I thought it might be a hardware issue but yeah, that makes more sense.
wind stump
Stretching the definition of "Fairy" pretty hard, lol
gaunt marten
I'd count this as fae but not fairy
icy crescent
O-ok
slim thorn
those are fun
icy crescent
Individually yes
3 at once? This is a total massacre
They literally just hitting each other
slim thorn
I suspect "use confusion" is the intended strat for a lot of the multi-animal fights
icy crescent
I wish I could in this fracture
slim thorn
oh
icy crescent
But yes I usually do that
slim thorn
welp, I haven't seen this one then
grave tide
O-ok <:ponee:925951532585861150>
One of most easy fractals
Take blaster stance with dual wield
And just confuse without stop
And try to kill all 3 guys at the same time
And save blaster for the moment, when you will have 1x1
icy crescent
okay so im not able to finish this one because it keeps crashing somehow... so i'll just pass it ntill the next patch come out
icy crescent
welp, I haven't seen this one then
the place is pretty hidden, it's on the crash site under the elevator
icy crescent
whoops mb
slim thorn
nbd, I'll probably find it naturally when I get back to that area
I just hadn't had much time to spend on JS since I finished the story
icy crescent
You already finished the story? Damn that's quick
Took me 40h of gameplay to finish mine
I guess because I also exploring too much while doing it
slim thorn
I started playing nearly two weeks ago
I tend to put off exploring based on how often I run into "you don't have that ability yet" blockers
which in JS was almost the whole game so I've done little more than token exploration along the main quest route
and/or getting lost on the way to the main quest
sage iris
icy crescent
When I got the ability to unlock blocked stuff/paths, I just go to them right away and ignore the main quest
slim thorn
and conveniently now it's finally JS time for me
icy crescent
Bosses: waiting
Me: brb
wind stump
i spend more time in menus than playing the fucking game
slim thorn
ok, finally got the treasure map upgrade
uneven epoch
i spend more time in menus than playing the fucking game
me with ff14 glams
"i cant save the world right now alphinaud, my gloves dont match the rest of my drip!"
slim thorn
hoo boy that's a lot of icons 
wind stump
did you see the Hraesalgr drip in the ffxiv thread
uneven epoch
why did you people teach me how to use glamor dresser, i havent been the same since
slim thorn
oh I do have a second puck
...yeah, this right here is which parts of the game I care about
wind stump
fuck off yohna i need to buy turnip bulbs for some rando i just met
and KICK THIS SHADE'S ASS
icy crescent
hoo boy that's a lot of icons <:izzystare:884921135312015460>
ikr and that's not include the seeds yet
slim thorn
are you kidding me this random pot had priorite in it
icy crescent
just some
slim thorn
who has time to break every pot in the game lol
icy crescent
i just step on them
white phoenix
zelda players: 
slim thorn
Zelda puts rupees and hearts in them, but not limited collectibles like heart pieces
icy crescent
idk who should i call The Priest or the Technician, cause this droid scares me man
random steppe
lol
slim thorn
huh, this time just talking to Caij got me a bounty tip
maybe it was one of those things where I tried to do exactly what it wanted but the interactables overlapped badly
wind stump
YOoooooooo
weak river
I... don't think you're supposed to dump the entire container on one plant.
I'm far from a professional gardener, though.
wind stump
Nier has no time for professionalism
slim thorn
I dunno what it is about DT sentries but I've never managed to have a clean fight with them
it's like enough of their unblockable attacks are just fast enough you can't actually avoid them by the time they start telegraphing
achivement unlocked: dumbest way to kill a space chicken
rancid herald
I never really use confuse all that much
slim thorn
same
I try to use it when I'm in a fight with multiple large animals
but otherwise it seems pointless
much like hacking the droids
rancid herald
apparently you can hack droids at the start of the fight with the taser dart
so long as combat hasn't started
But, really, the problem with 'confuse' is that usually enemy mobs (in all games) have far more health than the player, and hit relatively hard, but they also attack fairly infrequently. So the result is a bunch of mobs doing wet paper bag's worth of damage to one another
slim thorn
exactly
so far I've yet to play a game which had that ability and it felt like it served any real purpose
grave tide
WHAAAAAA
I don't know go away
Or really spend 5 hours to beat this
2 fucking Rancors
weak river
Don't worry, Rafo, you've got a lightsaber!
We believe in you!
Mostly!
slim thorn
oh that looks fun
rancid herald
wait until you find the frog one
weak river
Oh, no.
I haven't actually played Survivor yet.
Did... did they bring back the frog?
grave tide
Yes
And after you kill one frog
You will unlock DOUBLE FROG
OGGDO AND OGGDO BOGDO
weak river
Terrifying.
grave tide
wait until you find the frog one
I killed Oggdo
Spent only 5 hours
I thought I will spent 15
weak river
Is it the same fight that was in Fallen Order, or did they change it up a bit?
weak river
Yikes.
grave tide
Like agressive x10
And before Bogdo you have to kill like 15 typical droids
Double frogs you can restart without troubles
slim thorn
I haven't found any trace of JS oggdo yet
grave tide
I can show
slim thorn
I'm sure I will eventually, there's still like half of Koboh to scour
slim thorn
...that makes me suspect he's very close to where I am right now
slim thorn
ok he's probably closer to the start of Koboh
I discovered Fort Kah'lin
there's like a whole quarter of Koboh over here I never touched on the main quest
slim thorn
NOPE HE'S HERE
rancid herald
who
grave tide
Take a blaster stance
slim thorn
ok I think single might be better than either of my usual boss stances on this guy
slim thorn
what I need is total dodge consistency because just like the original fight, everything's a two-hit kill and thus when he's feeling mean enough effectively a one-hit kill
grave tide
I killed on single, because I didn't get the blaster stance
slim thorn
now I feel better
I wanna say 5 tries?
I was super close on all but the first try since, again, you make one mistake at a bad time and you're dead with this guy, even with stupid high post-game health
that's where it is!
rancid herald
wait, is there a third frog??
slim thorn
considering there's already such a low tolerance for error it'd probably feel like about the same fight, just delete the "at a bad time" part of my comment
grave tide
wait, is there a third frog??
No, this is first
grave tide
that's where it is!
Now visit Dora's Shop
slim thorn
equips poncho
thorny loom
you should watch dsp try to beat this thing
he literally spends about an hour on it and still cant beat it
rancid herald
I don't think I beat it until the very last part of the game where ||you get dark side powers||
fickle garnet
I was on ng+ so i was at the start of the game
fresh bane
_equips poncho_
random steppe
I really like they stole they charm system from Hollow Knight
I can't say I expected them to do that, but it works
quiet swift
I think I have like 6-7? Pretty much just use the more xp from battles one
slim thorn
I ran out of things I wanted to spend xp on so fast I didn't even equip that
I'm just bad at using situational special attacks in any game
quiet swift
I think I need to reroll my stuff, I was spending a bit here and there in a rew trees. Need to go down specific ones now that i'm pretty much locked in my combat styles
slim thorn
hoo boy that's a lot of icons <:izzystare:884921135312015460>
behold, ~4 hours of progress!
I... might not 100% this
weak river
It looks like you managed to get to quite a few of those icons, I'd say.
...that does seem like a hefty amount of side content, though. Is that just the planet that you're on, or are all of them like that?
slim thorn
this is the largest planet in the game
there's basically only two big planets, and the... three? four? other places are each used for one chapter of the main plot
quiet swift
Oh hey. Bellular released a new Bobby Kotick video
"Bobby Kotick Is Orchestrating A Cover Up...". Probably on that recent 'glowing' article about him... let's see what's he's up to now
slim thorn
also, I sucked at this fight but I survived it
confusion helped, but it felt like it wore off in 5-10 seconds so if my damage output was any lower this might've been a mosh pit of a fight
slim thorn
maps with a bunch of icons to collect/complete
the irony is: the whole reason I'm on this planet right now is because it has the final map icon upgrade
river veldt
my faaaaaavouriteee
idk if this is sarcasm or not but i genuinely love when maps have a ton of stuff on them
slim thorn
I have mixed feelings on it
the main problem is that many games which do the map icon spam have a lot of filler content, and at least IME it's rarely easy to just hide the icons for stuff you don't care about (although theoretically that should be an easy option to provide)
the other problem is that nearly every game which does this (JS included) has no option to put those icons in your regular HUD or on a permanently open minimap, so when you do want to tag every icon you're forced to open and close your map every couple seconds which gets pretty annoying compared to "just" having real way points in the game world
random steppe
It depends from the kind of content
Like, bosses, platforming challnges, bounties, cosmetics...etc...all good shit
But I would lie if I told you that slashing a bush with my sword to get the seeds is good content
slim thorn
unrelated, but these High Republic Jedi runes look suspiciously similar to the D'ni numerals from the Myst series
gaunt marten
#travle #172 (5/9) (0 hints)
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https://imois.in/games/travle
Oman to the Siachen Glacier
I had no idea what that glacier was, but ||I worked my way from Oman and got it anyway||
thorny loom
slim thorn
double rancor wasn't as bad as I feared
river veldt
white phoenix
to think they're now owned by sega
river veldt
WHAT
rancid herald
Sega waits for things to turn rotten, then buys them so it can enjoy not having money
fresh bane
it's been 20 years and Ryu still doesn't know how to chat people over the internet
river veldt
Ryu is such an old man i love him
river veldt
LOL