general gaming

[slim thorn]

the yellow room is still hilarious in isolation but I don't want to read it either

[river veldt]

that's the one where he says the r slur and "im the goddamn Batman"

[fresh bane]

and he says that to Robin no less IIRC

[river veldt]

Batman would say neither of these thing I think

[fresh bane]

Frank Miller is the kinda guy that hears the general complaints about Batman being too violent and he'd go ''He's not violent enough ''

[slim thorn]

#1026644106874732594 is leaking but one of these days I'll get you to read Daredevil: Born Again and/or Batman: Year One so you know what Miller was like before he lost it

[fresh bane]

Well I've already read Year One but Daredevil never

[river veldt]

haha Ive already read Year One and it was extremely good 😎

[slim thorn]

ah cool

[fresh bane]

I might check it out

[slim thorn]

I realized as soon as I wrote it that at least one of you had

[fresh bane]

I like Daredevil a bit

[slim thorn]

and the MCU announced a Born Again show so we know that'll be mandatory reading soon anyway

[river veldt]

I read Year One in like an hour

[fresh bane]

The only Daredevil I've seen is from this one Spiderman comic where they kinda help out Black Cat and she kisses Daredevil and goes home with him all while Peter is watching

and they both know he's there

so that was a bit sad

[bleak lintel]

I read a lot of Rebirth, stopped around the time they did metal batman.

[slim thorn]

fair, Metal is the best and the worst of comics all at once

[river veldt]

"Metal Batman"

??

[slim thorn]

I assume Sor is referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Nights:_Metal and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Batman_Who_Laughs and their associated tie-ins/spinoffs

remember when I posted that panel of Batman riding a velociraptor? that's from Dark Knights: Metal

[bleak lintel]

That's the one.

[river veldt]

i know Batman Who Laughs it's weird

[slim thorn]

I was surprised at how good it was, but it's definitely not for everyone

[fresh bane]

I remember reading that one and not liking it

[slim thorn]

the whole Metal event was like every comic crossover trope in a blender and turned up to 11

||the Court of Owls uses baby Darkseid to summon villains from the Dark Multiverse and then Morpheus/Sandman helps guide Batman and Superman to the one and only subdimension that can defeat them|| which probably sounds like a bad fanfic premise but the execution was so solid and so utterly shameless it was actually a lot of fun

and of course, Batman Who Laughs survived because he was popular enough to get a spinoff, because that's how comics work

[river veldt]

[slim thorn]

when we talk about some comics being "not newbie-friendly", this is a perfect example

[wind stump]

Ah yesssss! The only reason why I bothered getting my Blizzard account back!

well actually more like 3 reasons

1. Stonehardt
2. Grillmaster 76
3. Cultist Zenyatta

everything else invalid, lol

wait what the fuck
when was Doomfist, the guy with a giant fuckin' robot arm become a tank

[visual hill]

you forgot Doom :p

(a lot of the classic Doom community is trans)

including source port developers, etc

[slim thorn]

huh

(again, super curious why)

[visual hill]

I'm a bit puzzled too, but that's the way it is

[thorny loom]

Because new vegas is a good game

Idk

[thorny loom]

Cali!

I installed those emulators we talked about

[visual hill]

Xenia?

[thorny loom]

No. The forked versions of emulators for the xbox

[visual hill]

Xemu?

[thorny loom]

No

[visual hill]

Cxbx-reloaded?

[thorny loom]

Dolphiin and ps2 emulator

[visual hill]

oh, right

I do have Xemu installed on Linux, some OG Xbox games look absolutely amazing once upscaled

[thorny loom]

Dolphin was pretty rough but it played games

The ps2 one ran great though

I would probably wait for more patches for the dolphin one

[visual hill]

this is RalliSport Challenge 2, an OG Xbox game that could pass for an Xbox 360 game if it ran at 720p on original hardware 🙂

(it's 60 FPS natively too)

the handling, while arcade, is very fun too. Definitely an underrated gem if you ask me

one more screeny

[teal sonnet]

This game has no rights to slap this right

https://youtu.be/3NoKAOTE_ZI

holy fuck

[green fulcrum]

It has every right.

[slim thorn]

oh right, how was Sonic Frontiers in the end?

I can't remember if I heard anyone talk about it here after it came out

[green fulcrum]

We were talking about it a lot after it came out, lol.

[slim thorn]

sometimes I'm just asleep at the critical times, or it gets lost among other stuff

[river veldt]

sleepy cat

[visual hill]

it seems to be the best 3D Sonic game that came out in a long time

the PC version needs mods to shine though

[green fulcrum]

And ultimately the consensus was that it was a fun, emotional, yet still flawed adventure. When it gets things right, it was AWESOME. When it got things wrong, it was disappointing, but never infuriatingly so.

Overall, it was the breath of fresh air that the series desperately needed, it was the best 3D game in the series since Generations, and it was a great first step in a new direction, but it still needs improvement.

The adventure isn't over yet though: there's tons of free DLC/updates coming out this year, including new modes and an entirely new story, AND new playable characters.

[visual hill]

it is on my waitlist 🙂

[teal sonnet]

Sonic is in very good hands

with the game and the movies

[green fulcrum]

This is still my favorite boss theme in the game, and the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQRMaFCajcU

Undefeatable comes VERY close.

[thorny loom]

Yeah. Its nice to see sonic be in a universally good game

[green fulcrum]

Reminder: this song is a heartfelt message from Sonic Team to the world to be better, to do better, and to once more create magical experiences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7MFGSje4kA

[heady bridge]

I'd say Sonic Frontiers isn't a great game, but it's good and has some excellent moments and arguably some of the best boss fights this series has ever had. What I can say is it's potentially an excellent new foundation for great future titles, the concern is if Sonic Team can do so, their track record is patchy at best....

[fresh bane]

I have a similar opinion myself

I feel like it's one of those things where people say "this is a great first step" but that sentiment keeps repeating itself all the time

It's not a bad game, but it's not amazing either, I wouldn't personally say it's even one of the best Sonic games

[slim thorn]

ah, perhaps this is why I didn't remember hearing these opinions before

[fresh bane]

I'm waiting to upgrade my pc to do a 100% run of it because it doesn't run very well on my computer

And by doesn't run very well I mean any semblance of vast open world means 15 fps at best

Personally speaking the whole open zone aspect isn't appealing to me and I think it's a bad idea to use it as a blueprint for future games but if that's what they're going to do then I'm hoping they'll really solidify the design in the future and make it incredible

[slim thorn]

is Frontiers "open world" in the standard Ubisoft continent riddled with icons sense, or one of the happy mediums like an open hub area connecting more directed levels?

[green fulcrum]

A little bit of both, I suppose?

[wind stump]

pfft
Bastion's LEGO™️ skin has this detail

lil' plastic flame pew

[fresh bane]

I was going to say that it's kind of reminiscent of the SA1 hubs where it's kind of open world ish but instead of different areas it's this one big map where there's all these little places where you can go into the different levels/zones/cyberspace levels but instead of being an empty area you run around in it's a big map with actual stuff in it asides from the singular individual levels you can go to

and yeah there is a bunch of icons and stuff you collect and things like that I suppose

[slim thorn]

so the open hub area style?

[fresh bane]

Well, except the open hub area is a level in and of itself

[slim thorn]

right, games that do the open hub area usually have lots of stuff in the hub area too

I guess what "is a level" means depends a lot on the game

I've never played a Sonic game to completion so my strongest impression of the open hub area model is Sly 2

[fresh bane]

the open world has stuff to do in it but you can also go into the individual cyberspace levels for a 'classic' sonic level style

where you gotta reach the end of the level

a lot of them are pretty much just older levels from previous sonic games too

[slim thorn]

nvme?

[teal sonnet]

a very fast type of ssd

[rose rose]

The standard type of PCIe-attached storage for the last several years

[fresh bane]

that's a lot of cores

[rose rose]

Or alternatively, “The thing that’s not SATA”

[slim thorn]

yeah, even my new laptop has 32 gb but only 8 cores

[fresh bane]

my cpu has 4

[slim thorn]

my current laptop has 4

[rose rose]

My pretty-high-end desktop has 24

That said, more cores tend to be correlated with slower single-core performance

I doubt the Epic Games Launcher startup is terribly multithreaded

This hypothetical person is defeating themselves

[slim thorn]

what is the sweet spot these days

[rose rose]

It’s complicated? Somewhere in the 10-20 range at the high end.

The actual useful number is probably still 4-8

Assuming you don’t actually multitask or do anything highly parallelised

[fresh bane]

I feel like my cpu is... probably fine enough to not be a huge issue for what I use my computer for
But my memory and my graphics card surely need an upgrade which is what I'm looking into upgrading soon

geforce gt 1030 and 8 gb of ram

looking into upgrading to 16 gb of ram and I think my brother has a gtx 1050 he's looking into repairing that he wants to gift me

so that's saving money there

[slim thorn]

at least for me, vram size has been the only spec to come up as a hard blocker in the last several years

[fresh bane]

is that from the graphics card?

[slim thorn]

video ram, yeah

[arctic fern]

dead space remake easter egg: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYlPwlvl0zg||

[fresh bane]

Is vram just like, a part you can upgrade or is that just inherently something that comes with the graphics card?

So if you wanted to upgrade you'd need an entirely new graphics card altogether

[rose rose]

It is essentially fixed by the graphics card

Want more memory, get a new one

(Integrated graphics are something of an exception here but are also barely relevant except maybe in Apple land)

[slim thorn]

yep, for me the top priority with my new laptop was a better graphics card that had way more vram

my current laptop's gtx 1050 has 2 gb vram and my new one's rtx 3070 ti has 8 gb vram

so that ought to be almost as future proof as a gaming laptop can get

when I launch Dead Space, Task Manager claims it uses to 4.5/8.0 gb of "dedicated GPU memory"

[river veldt]

i played a bit of Frontiers but it never really clicked with me

[slim thorn]

I assume it does a decent amount of scaling that up and down depending on your exact specs, and it judged my system to be a "medium"

[quiet swift]

Speaking of epic, this week

[slim thorn]

I'm curious now, how much does this change on other settings...

[fresh bane]

oooooooh Dishonored

That's a good one too

all of the Dishonored DLC campaigns are weirdly enough just as good if not better than the original campaigns

at least in gameplay

[fresh bane]

Oh welp that's the one I'm getting

thankfully it's a gift so no money spent there, if I save up I can buy an even better one in the future and give the other one back to my brother or let him sell it so no money spent on either side here

...well except he's paying for the repairs but he owes me money anyways

[slim thorn]

and to be clear, this 1050 lasted me a long time, and still plays pretty much all indies

it's just the last few times I had any game outright refuse or fail to run on this laptop, it was because it demanded a minimum 4 gb of vram

for example, the Dead Space remake requirements say "GTX 1070", which apparently had 4.5 gb vram (it never produced an error message on my old laptop but I assume this is why, or at least one reason why)

[fresh bane]

[slim thorn]

iirc Halo Infinite did produce an error message specifically about vram

[fresh bane]

Well... I'm probably wrong but I'm currently using DMC5 as my kind of... anchor point, I guess you could say? Says here that the recommended graphics card for DMC5 is a gtx 1060 with 6gb vram

I currently have a gt 1030 with 2 gb vram so anything that comes my way is literally going to be an improvement

I might actually manage to play DMC5 at medium settings and a respectable resolution

[slim thorn]

certainly worth a shot

[fresh bane]

And it's a pretty recent game I mean... 2019 wasn't that long ago

[slim thorn]

so, apparently Dead Space remake doesn't have a texture resolution setting; I'm guessing that means the low/medium/high stuff is gonna be all framerate rather than vram then, and fiddling with that only got my vram to inch up to 4.9/8.0

did we pass a point where more texture resolution doesn't help perceived graphical fidelity so it's just a fixed setting now?

[fresh bane]

I'm not really sure, all the games i've played have a texture resolution setting

[visual hill]

thanks Epic, I now got the entire Dishonored trilogy for free

[visual hill]

no, I think it's just a lack of time/willingness to implement the feature on their part… full resolution is still demanding on integrated graphics, or old GPUs with 2-4 GB of VRAM

modern AAA games ship with pretty large textures, and even if they're streamed in and out during gameplay, you can't load huge textures on GPUs with very low memory bandwidth (without affecting performance a lot)

[slim thorn]

interesting how many things do and don't make the priority list

[visual hill]

TL;DR: For most games, an option to halve the maximum resolution of all textures (used in 3D) still makes sense in 2023 (this saves roughly 75% of texture memory). The only case where I'd skip this is in retro games

[slim thorn]

so maybe my current laptop could've played it if they had a low tex rez option

[fresh bane]

Hm, site here says I don't even have the minimum settings for RE2(2019) but I was able to play through that game to completion just fine

I guess simply not having a good enough graphics card but having everything else is good enough?

[visual hill]

VRAM usage depends a lot on your target resolution too

[slim thorn]

ah, I might try that later

[visual hill]

I'm running nothing but Discord and a terminal right now (on a 4K display), and the driver says I'm using 617 MB of video memory.
I remember when I used a GPU with 32 MB of VRAM

[sonic dune]

I can't believe the cowboy has a deadname

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/ALubA2dxPxg

[slim thorn]

that is what that says

[fresh bane]

''Woah how'd you do that?''
''I interned in Tokyo!''
''Bullshit, say ''Bill's an idiot'' in Japanese''
''フランシスばかですよ''
''Nice!''

[river veldt]

@slim thorn so im guessing that this mining company is similar to the UAC?

[slim thorn]

mmm, maybe in some ways?

the UAC is cartoonishly over-the-top black comedy evil

on the surface the CEC is just your boring dystopian megacorp, it's unclear if their leadership even knew about the religious angle and the [spoilers]

[river veldt]

lisa_simpson_oooh_mystery.gif

oh god what was the corporation from Alien called

i cant remmeber

[slim thorn]

Weyland-Yutani

[river veldt]

yea!

[slim thorn]

that's a pretty good comparison point

in fact I made a broader Alien comparison to my family the other day since both franchises are sci-fi horror classics with a couple of solid to okay sequels

[river veldt]

are the DS sequels good? or just ok

[slim thorn]

so, people disagree on this

[arctic fern]

2 is good
3 is filled with EA bullshit

[slim thorn]

I played all three DSs far apart from each other so I'm not the best to judge

but IMO 2 was a straight improvement, exactly what you want from a sequel, except maybe that (again much like Alien -> Aliens) there's a distinct shift from horror to action

in fact the DS remake borrowed several of the mechanical improvements from DS2, such as the zero g sections now letting you fly around through space in any direction instead of jumping between solid surfaces

DS3 is a tougher one to judge because of the "EA bullshit" like microtransactions (in a single player game!) coloring everyone's view of the game on launch

[fresh bane]

I hear DS3 killed the franchise

but I never played DS myself

[slim thorn]

but IMO if you overlook that stuff DS3's still pretty fun, although I'd say it is a step down in writing (especially near the end) and gameplay (too action-y imo)

and DS3 is still the only one with co-op

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

again, similar to how Alien 3 has a really bad rap but if you watch the Assembly Cut it's actually pretty good although probably still not quite as good as the first two

hell, the first Dead Space even has a director's cut now

[river veldt]

lol

[random steppe]

Dear Dark Souls community, Nire is talking about Dead Space, please don't make attempts at his life

[arctic fern]

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

[grim stirrup]

i mean, dark souls 3 did kill the dark souls , no new dark souls games were made afterwards

[gaunt marten]

Dark Souls 3 was planned to be an ending to the franchise all along

That's what the expansion was about, with the end of time and the worlds converging into one

[pseudo surge]

Completed Freedom Planet 1 on Hard! 129 of those deaths were from the final stage/final boss fight

[gaunt marten]

Nice work

Are you gonna do 2 next?

[pseudo surge]

At some point, yeah. I wanna blitz through the other characters in 1, but I'll probably just set it to Easy difficulty for that.

[rancid herald]

Miles Morales feels a lot more disappointing than I expected. oh well

[visual hill]

I guess you could say "your mileage may vary"

[rancid herald]

[dire gate]

mileage is too American, use Kilometerage

[grim stirrup]

i know, but that doesn't make my sentence untrue

[gaunt marten]

I'm agreeing with you

[grim stirrup]

fair

[sonic dune]

Many games I don't have marked are games I plan to play

[grim stirrup]

this chart is super heavily weighted to insanely popular games in some form or another

[slim thorn]

#DeadSpace: oh, and for the record, I found Peng

[quiet swift]

And this is why Chipmunk is hax at guessthegame

[mossy flume]

There are many franchises missing from this list

And it omits basically everything prior to the year 2000

That said

73, not too bad

Doesn’t even have Star Wars, tsk tsk

[grim stirrup]

eh, id say its mainly 1995-2005 popularity mainly

castlevania and star fox most iconic games are both 1997

(symphony of the night and 64 respectively) theres probably other ones on there thats that the case for but i cant be bothered to check more dates, though shenmue 1 is 1999

[slim thorn]

are we including games we started but didn't finish?

[mossy flume]

It does just say “play” with no further qualifications

[slim thorn]

welp, being as inclusive as possible, I can only get it to 38

lol, the one franchise chipmunk didn't play is also the only one I haven't heard of

(am I way below average or is it just the serious gamers that have filled this out already? )

[river veldt]

not a real gamer

i dont really experiment with other games too often, i stick to my Marios and Zeldas cuz thats what i like

[gaunt marten]

Variety of only popular games

[river veldt]

i am a normie it's true 😔

what will Chip say

[grim stirrup]

i dont think either are true really, some of these aren't mainstream (parasite eve/wild arms) and popular in their genre, some of them are just past their hayday (fable), some like worms are only really super fun with friends so i can see missing, etc

basically you need to have been playing a bunch of games during the 2000s as MA said

[river veldt]

what is SaGa

[grim stirrup]

saga frontier was probably the most iconic one in thatfranchise for me, but its a turn based rpg, basically a final fantasy

[gaunt marten]

Not much. What's up with you

[grim stirrup]

as labled, i never played it though

[uneven epoch]

cap no sims?

[river veldt]

nope

[gaunt marten]

73*

[rose rose]

taking a relatively generous definition of "played"

[grim stirrup]

note to self, shill silent hill 2 more

[random steppe]

Not at home, but I am going to pull a hipster move as soon as I am home and check that Drakengard box really hard

[gaunt marten]

I listened to a lot of Drakengard music but that doesn't count

[random steppe]

I played when it was new to completion, and I didn't know any better.
Also did half of it emulated recently but it was a very painful experience

[quiet swift]

Base game of Sims 4 is free to play now. Obviously dlc are $$$ but... worth a look

[sonic dune]

I decided to count Bloodborne as a Darksouls for mine

[random steppe]

Fair

[quiet swift]

Gen, were you the one who was giving a try to Elden Ring/Sekiro and stuff? Or was that Ixrec?

[river veldt]

why is Final Fantasy stamped so many times

[gaunt marten]

I played like thirty of them

[river veldt]

should i have stamped Zelda and Mario a bunch of times then

[gaunt marten]

All the mainline games except 5, 6 and 15, most of the spinoffs and side games

Hey I'm not your boss

[river veldt]

yeah you are

[gaunt marten]

Then yes. One stamp for every five games

[uneven epoch]

cap ur a mod if either of u is more boss its legally you

[river veldt]

hmm

but Flitter is arguably more intimidating than me

[uneven epoch]

contrary to wcct the mod job isnt about bein intimidatin

[gaunt marten]

True and valid. My emotions are unknowable because I don't have any and that's scary

[river veldt]

who is the least scary mod

[gaunt marten]

yay899

[slim thorn]

I tried and dropped Dark Souls and Sekiro, haven't touched any other Fromsoft Soulslikes. IIRC Gen's played most of them to completion.

[river veldt]

im interested in Elden Ring but BOTW is fulfilling my open world desires right now

[quiet swift]

Okay it's you then. I think we were similar in the sense of it being extra frustrating and whatnot. I think after watching some videos and maybe learning a bit more how to play (like ,knowing in advance what I want to build and how to make an early game build, not just level 100+ endgame build), i'm doing far, far, far better now and actually enjoying myself

For Elden Ring, that is

[slim thorn]

right, I never touched Elden Ring

I don't think "builds" apply to Sekiro and I don't think I was far enough into Dark Souls for it to matter much there

[river veldt]

do you even get to make your own character in Sekiro

[quiet swift]

I watched a bunch of videos from the Fextralife channel, about "X weapon type is OP" (not really, just showcasing main weapons of each type). Found whips to be very interesting style, found builds for it, went for that (probably super early... like level 6-7 in a level 60 zone) to grab the weapon but i'm having great fun with it

[gaunt marten]

You can have any color car you want, as long as it's black.

[river veldt]

whips??? like castlevania>???????????

[gaunt marten]

Whips in Dark Souls are not nearly as cool as Castlevania whips

[river veldt]

oh

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VgveIbQ380

[green fulcrum]

Wow, I f*cking suck, lol:

[quiet swift]

You say that but one build is the Trevor Belmont build

[gaunt marten]

This list is mostly applicable to people of a certain age

[river veldt]

that doesnt look like Trevor

i think

idk i dont remember what Trevor looks like because the only Belmont i care about is Simon

[random steppe]

To be fair, while I don't look up guides, my modus operandi when i play a new souls game is finding a fucking claymore, because I am very confortable with its moveset.
So there is a good basis for finding something you are very comfortable using in order to enjoy the game

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR4u07ptFDM well then you want this, or the colossal weapon one 😛

[random steppe]

The problem with that, is that every subsequent playtrhough, I pick up the claymore and I feel the pull of just playing the game with the claymore, yet again, even if I already did it

[quiet swift]

[slim thorn]

and that's Dead Space completed

might go back for 100%ing after I look up some stuff

I did want to finish off that tangent we started a ways back about the (optional, opt-in) content warnings, because there is a legitimate question of whether they spoil anything, but that only becomes a significant concern in the final chapter

[harsh kestrel]

I'm sticking to collect-a-thon platformers like I grew up with lol

[gaunt marten]

Spyro

[harsh kestrel]

I almost finished all three games completely 100%+ on PS4 on the Reignited Trilogy. Spyro 4, hello?

[slim thorn]

there are 2 warnings in the final chapter, first for ||the video of Nicole's suicide, finally confirming that the Nicole we've been talking to is not real|| and second for ||the Hive Mind crushing Daniels to death||

[harsh kestrel]

Anyone play Spongebob Cosmic Shake lately?

[slim thorn]

IMO the first one is completely fine for a new player because ||there are multiple characters whose suicide it could be, and odds are most players will be suspicious of Nicole anyway||, and the second one probably is a spoiler considering ||no one else is left at that point|| but IMO it's a fairly minor problem, that particular death was never a big deal to me at least

[dapper cedar]

Aye it’s so good

2000s licensed platformer released in 2023 is one of the best things to happen ever

[harsh kestrel]

I 100% finished the game within 3 days

Quick, people looking at this chat, give me your favorite collect-a-thon platformers. IDK, I'm bored. Okay go

[slim thorn]

hm, if "collect-a-thon" means what I think it does I'm struggling to think of any I've played besides A Maretime Bay Adventure

SM64's 100 coin stars come to mind?

[river veldt]

why did i click those spoilers

[river veldt]

Banjo Kazooie is probably the best example of a collectathon

[harsh kestrel]

Well, I meant old classics like Spyro, Crash, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, the decent Spongebob games, etc

[river veldt]

yea Spyro is one

[slim thorn]

oh, I wasn't sure R&C and Sly counted, but those for me then

[harsh kestrel]

I finished the new Ratchet and Clank game 100%

Platinum trophy and all

[slim thorn]

I haven't really played R&C since the original three

[river veldt]

have you played Super Mario Odyssey that's a collectathon

oh right you have because i forced you to with peer pressure

[harsh kestrel]

Sadly I haven't. I've been slowly progressing through Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope though

[slim thorn]

ok I was imagining a much narrower definition of "collect-a-thon" then

to me nearly every platformer (not to mention a lot of non-platformers) has collect N whatevers as one of the many things you can do so I felt like it'd have to be uniquely prominent to call a game that

[river veldt]

have you played A Hat in TIme

[slim thorn]

nope

[river veldt]

oh ok

wel i cant recommend it in good faith because i didnt like it

[harsh kestrel]

I've been thinking of trying to replay Sackboy A Big Adventure

[mossy flume]

I quite enjoyed A Hat in Time

Very much classic platformer gameplay

If you liked Super Mario 64 you’ll probably like A Hat in Time

[harsh kestrel]

You're like the 7th or 8th Midnight I've known on here lol

I give props for being a Zipp lover though lol

[slim thorn]

I suspect Odyssey burned me out on classic platforming for a good while

[mossy flume]

Yeah the OC name and design was lazily thrown together. But whatever

[slim thorn]

I've still never played any of the R&Cs after 3

[harsh kestrel]

Rift Apart is a fun one

[slim thorn]

or any of the Spyros/Crashes/Banjos

[mossy flume]

Rift Apart is indeed pretty good

[harsh kestrel]

I'm also bored just seeking to voice chat with other gamers or something. Agh lol

[slim thorn]

no idea what the priority would even be

[harsh kestrel]

Someone help solve my boredom lol

Sounds a bit desperate, I know, but it kind of is because I hate being bored

Ping me if you wanna help my boredom lol

[harsh kestrel]

Is it bad I started playing Mariokart Tour again earlier and find it to be a WAY better game now without the stupid gacha crap?

[green fulcrum]

Why would that be bad? Gacha is crap.

[harsh kestrel]

Well considering that and the ridiculous paywalls, even ridiculous for Nintendo, drove me away after a bit of time, and I decided to go back and all of that is gone for the most part, besides the stupid $40 for one character garbage

[thorny loom]

https://youtu.be/xHohazQl7Cc

[harsh kestrel]

I mean, not wrong

[astral field]

good

[craggy vine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/e0ukqd/we_had_to_drop_mac_support_for_our_steam_game_and/

This is interesting

[light gate]

That was three years ago

Also you can build in IL2CPP, I guess back then it wasn't possible because Unity wasn't doing their job?

Also the Linux version of Unity is in a much worse shape than the Mac build lmao, its slowly improving but getting installed is its own journey.

[craggy vine]

Ah i see

[light gate]

Wine can be added back technically too (not on arm devices tho, you'll probably need some crazy emulation), and notarizing is basically a way they use to check for malware. It can be a bit of a pain, but they made it easier with Command Line Tools.

(Hell, why do you want to use Wine? You're not supposed to use that for a game unless we talking ancient code.)

The only point that rings true is the 3rd-party lib support, that is still all over the place.

But yeah, the primary point is to create a proper port. During Mac's early times you got half-assed ports that performed terribly or had missing features, so they ended up not selling well (wow shocking). The ones that did kept getting supported for a long time.

Also this is a very similar issue with native linux ports, they are also hard to make and typically run into unexpected issues. This is pretty much no different, the only exception is that the Linux community got fed up and decided to create tools that help running Windows games. (Valve and Proton)

The Linux world is technically better but the games you play are not native games. They're still Windows games but with a lot of weird trickery.

[thorny loom]

Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QupM-QQW9A

[craggy vine]

Wait... I think I may have an old version of aethersx2... Apparently I should have access to a Metal renderer and play games at a way higher resolution, above 4k.

Also RPCS3 is available for ARM macs

[slim thorn]

it's so weird that I'd never even heard of the vast majority of these games

[gaunt marten]

Yes. They're shovelware

[slim thorn]

live services are such a huge investment I would've thought they exclude shovelware almost automatically

[gaunt marten]

Live service games that are not made to address the need or desire for a game, but to actually make money by exploiting the live service model as quickly as possible

They spend a lot of money under the assumption they'll get a lot back, and the sacrifices they make buy them time to get the game out of the door faster

[slim thorn]

sigh

[quiet swift]

Yeah, so many of them would actually do decently well... they just release them too early to try to get cash fast, and have either a lack of content or a lack of polish

[gaunt marten]

Rumbleverse was nice. Needed a bit more support, but unfortunately it closed

[grim stirrup]

ye, rumbleverse is the only one of these i'm sad about, like 6 more months in the oven and it woulda been great

[quiet swift]

KO city is what got my fiancée affiliate on Twitch 😦 she's super sad about it

She absolutely adores it. At least it's the only one that is trying to do private server availability

[gaunt marten]

I have problems committing to a live service model because an inherent quality of such a model is the game might die before your interest in it does, and thus everything you spent on the game goes down the drain and you can't even play it anymore.

[grim stirrup]

i'm fine with ones like rumbleverse, where all "progress" is 100% aesthetic so there's nothing real to lose

[gaunt marten]

My complaint is one day I'll want to play the game but won't be able to

[river veldt]

is Rumbleverse the Warner Bros one

no im thinking of Multiversus

[wind stump]

lol, lmao

most undeserved potg 2023

[gaunt marten]

It's the Epic Games one

It's a battle royale where you play cartoony wrestling champs

[grim stirrup]

fair enough, i read it as "spending time to unlock things is annoying when they're going to go away"

[visual hill]

I finished the main campaign of GoldenEye XBLA but wow, Aztec is so hard, even with mouse + keyboard and on Agent difficulty

[random steppe]

I fucking knew it! They lied to me

[green fulcrum]

Minecraft does this too when you're "sprinting" on a boat. The camera changes to the sprint FOV, but your speed doesn't change. It merely gives you the illusion of going faster.

[young creek]

????????

the boat isn't faster than swimming?

[green fulcrum]

It is normally, but not if you have depth strider, iirc.

[young creek]

you lost me at depth strider

[grim stirrup]

minecraft really struggles to load the world if you're going any variation of fast, it shows in like 90% of modpacks that give any speedboosts and you end up flying above unloaded chunks

so it cant boost you that fast

[gaunt marten]

Minecraft struggles to load the world even when I'm standing still

[green fulcrum]

There are a lot of performance mods that can help, but yeah, the fact is that Minecraft is too overloaded in the backend and that Java is not great for loading in the world.

Bedrock is a lot better in this regard, and everything loads smooth as butter, but it comes with its own problems (for me its the stiff and janky controls and the sheer lack of versatility when it comes to mods and datapacks).

[wind stump]

still got it

[gaunt marten]

Ah, delicious American news

For all of those who say End User License Agreements don't work: ```An American judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed against Nintendo for its Joy-Con drift issues, saying the case cannot proceed because the owners agreed to Nintendo's End User License Agreement (EULA) that "disallows lawsuits".

Despite attempts to argue that underaged children - who used the handheld system - cannot enter into the agreement, the federal judge ultimately ruled that the agreement was with the "de facto owners", the parents, and not the children who actually used the console.

Consequently, the judge dismissed the action, stating that the parents should have entered legal arbitration rather than a lawsuit, as instructed by the EULA```

From https://www.eurogamer.net/american-judge-dismisses-switch-joy-con-drift-lawsuit

I don't think it's fair that an EULA forces you into arbitration like that, but I'm not American

[slim thorn]

how does joy-con drift become a lawsuit problem?

[gaunt marten]

I don't know. I don't have a Switch. My impression is that there's been an outcry because joycon drift happens a lot faster than expected and a lot faster than previous consoles because of shoddy sticks from the one major provider that everyone uses

Nintendo offers free repairs but it's a huge hassle to ship to them every time

So the only options are to either not use the Switch much, simply get lucky, or replace the joycons with ones that rely on a hall effect sensor

[young creek]

or use pro controller

[gaunt marten]

Doesn't that have drifting sticks too?

[young creek]

nope

[gaunt marten]

Oh cool

[slim thorn]

would I even notice if mine drifted?

[young creek]

Yeah

your guy would move even if you didnt touch the stick

[gaunt marten]

Probably would notice

[fresh bane]

Is it really part of an user agreement that you cannot sue nintendo?

[slim thorn]

ah that kind of drift

[fresh bane]

Is that even a thing you can do?

[slim thorn]

ok then my Switch definitely hasn't done that yet

[young creek]

I have two pairs and both have drift

[gaunt marten]

It's part of Discord's user agreement is you can't sue discord

You have to go through "arbitration"

[river veldt]

i personally have only experienced drift on one pair of joycons i had, but ymmv

[slim thorn]

I'm pretty sure there are legal limits to how much of that you can sign away in practice ("illegal contracts" are a thing), but that's part of what makes all this legally dubious

[gaunt marten]

Yes

Arbitration is like suing but the judge is different, they don't have to follow the law in the same way as a court, and you may NOT enter a class action lawsuit

You may still file individual lawsuits

[visual hill]

all modern consoles' official controllers have stick drift, but I have yet to experience it on any of my Xbox (3) or DualSense (1) controllers

I do have D-pad wear out though, but "the floor is good D-pad" applies to modern official controllers anyway

[quiet swift]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/dragon-age-dreadwolf-gameplay-leaks-showing-god-of-war-style-combat/

[fresh bane]

Is God of War the next ''Dark Souls type/style''?

[icy crescent]

i dont like

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nlfZE3AZRk

[harsh kestrel]

Noticing multiple Izzy clones. The mirror pool must have happened again lol

[quiet swift]

Damnit discord, when I mute and don't follow a channel I don't want to see it shining and at the top of the list!

[harsh kestrel]

It just does that

[astral field]

That judge is absolutely nuts. Similar agreements have been struck down in the past.

[rose rose]

Not usually? Binding arbitration absolutely is a thing that works and is enforced very regularly.

It’s technically not forced on you because you are given a month to opt out after agreeing to the terms of service.

Though obviously people rarely bother

[astral field]

It depends very much on the exact phrasing and attempted bindings in an individual EULA. Some have greatly overreached and been declared void. Others have not. Right now things lean towards arbitration clauses, especially after a Supreme Court ruling upheld them. However, the judge is still nuts.

[rose rose]

Doesn’t seem particularly nuts to uphold a standard clause in an EULA.

Significantly more nuts to do the opposite

[astral field]

I disagree. The law should be changed. Right now, though, the structure of the law itself is nuts.

[rose rose]

Okay, but judges are not there to change the law, and indeed generally cannot do that.

You get a legal judgement, not a moral one

[astral field]

The legality of them was up in the air until the Supreme Court decision. So judges can and do decide on the interpretation of the law.

I think the Supreme Court decision was a bad one, personally.

[rose rose]

The legality of them is currently not up in the air though

[astral field]

Just because the law says it goes one way does not mean it is reasonable and the judge is still nuts.

[rose rose]

Sure.

[slim thorn]

#Planescape: it seems mandatory to inform chat that I have just met "Lothar, the Master of Skulls" and his impressively long beard

[fresh bane]

that reminds me, because I am watching critical role I love that in DnD a thing the party can just decide to do is to start beating the shit out of each other as soon as the session starts

and the DM just has to roll (hah) with it

[slim thorn]

there's a lot of dumb things I'm pretty sure this game would allow me to do that I haven't dared try yet

although I'm particularly tempted by the rumors of this one character who'll stick you in a pocket dimension if you mess with her servants

[fresh bane]

For the first few dozen episodes of this campaign the party was carrying around this giant manticore head on their cart all around their travels and they did nothing with it, by the end they just dropped this giant rotting manticore head on the street and fucked off to the next town

I can't play those games because I'll just save scum all the time to see what shit I can get away with

''what happens if I just.... punch this NPC right now?''

[arctic fern]

D&D is awesome

[fresh bane]

quicksave

[astral steeple]

bought a ps5 from the pawn shop yesterday pog

was 450 dollars

had a cod cold war disc inside it too

[slim thorn]

what finally got me was the modern art museum

[arctic fern]

...did dead space introduce new enemies? i dont remember seeing enemies ||made up of the destroyed body parts of people||

in the original that is

[slim thorn]

are you talking about the ||humanoid necromorph that's superhumanly tall and when "killed" parts of it keep crawling toward you?||

https://deadspace.fandom.com/wiki/Divider appears to be in the original

[arctic fern]

its possible im seeing the warning that enemy will exist

[arctic fern]

hmm
im in a room with the thing i need obviously in the centre of the room
it looks inviting
its surrounded by what looks like obvious doorways that could close at any moment
the room has obvious enemies frozen in glass tanks
its a room thats literally filled with cryogenic stuff
i've been chased by an invulnerable enemy this whole level that regenerates
theres boxes of ammo and a stasis recharge station
...all of this is probably unrelated

[harsh kestrel]

I notice so many of us with Minecraft or Jackbox roles. I miss playing those games with people

[arctic fern]

we have a minecraft server
i think theres a minecraft thread with more info

jackbox... yeah i should host that more

[harsh kestrel]

It would definitely be fun for me. I've had like no reason to play either one of those in months. I haven't seen anyone voice chatting or anything for either one of those

[arctic fern]

the minecraft stuff is done off-server mostly

[harsh kestrel]

So no voice chats usually with it?

[arctic fern]

not here atleast

[harsh kestrel]

That's a big oof

[arctic fern]

VC here is criminally underutilised and when it is, folks here have some very weird ideas on what VC etiquette looks like

[wise frigate]

what vc etiquette /j

[arctic fern]

exactly

[wise frigate]

I mainly use the VC for sharing my lonely single player games, but most of the time I get people stealing the vc from me and it gets way too noisy

speaking of, I am almost done with Black Mesa but I still need to get all the achievements

then its off to HL2

[harsh kestrel]

I mean... Maybe the limit of people that can be in there can be like 10 or something?

[arctic fern]

what would be the point? we never get 10 people in vc

[harsh kestrel]

It was just a thought to maybe stop the problem. I haven't really been active in here

[visual hill]

remember when we gathered to play Among Us? 👀

[minor gorge]

Fun times.

[slim thorn]

I go back and forth on whether I should be streaming myself playing games that people might want to discuss

on the one hoof, they're usually games I can easily talk about while playing, and since I can't type and play at the same time it's a natural use case for VC

[gaunt marten]

It is fun to talk with people

[slim thorn]

on the other hoof, almost everyone I know who can hold a conversation seems to lack the internet connection or hardware to watch a stream (or strongly prefers private VCs because:), and the random lurkers/strangers who do join VC really can't hold a conversation

[harsh kestrel]

I usually can if someone mentions something I like

[slim thorn]

so for now I'm basing it largely on how much of my mental bandwidth the game takes up and how "watchable" it is

Planescape fails both criteria pretty hard, for example

(though to be clear, if someone does want to watch and chat about whatever I'm playing, just ask)

[visual hill]

I'd like to do that myself, but I doubt anyone would be interested

my skill level isn't crazy high enough

[slim thorn]

ha, skill

I've got approximately none of that

huh, apparently https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Mount_Celestia is a thing in D&D cosmology

[teal sonnet]

let's not optimize the games anymore

there is DLSS!

[slim thorn]

this is not how PR is done lol

just admit you've got finite development resources and running on a potato isn't a high priority

[teal sonnet]

the biggest mistake on all this is the denuvo

[slim thorn]

offhand I have no idea how many games I've played did or did not have Denuvo

if you don't run into an issue, how would you know?

[gaunt marten]

Mount Celestia starts with the silver sea of Lunia and ascends with more and more ridiculous heavenly mountain peaks, ending with Bahamut at the top.

[teal sonnet]

I remember the quarry launched with denuvo

[gaunt marten]

It's my favorite of the outer planes

[teal sonnet]

few days ago they removed it

since the game was unplayable

[gaunt marten]

Aside from maybe Arborea

[slim thorn]

I'm hoping Planescape eventually visits at least one of these outer planes, it's made a lot of them sound super interesting

[gaunt marten]

I wouldn't count on it. I know nothing about the game but the Outer Planes are places of uh

It's hard to put it into word

Philosophical ultimates. It's hard to make an interesting story there

Except for the story of how you, an outsider, manages to survive there unchanged, the story of how two planes interact, or the story of how the planes stop being so extreme

Then again, the game is literally called Planescape

[slim thorn]

one of my companions is an outcast of Limbo that I apparently saved when I visited that plane in a previous life so I think it's doing pretty okay at telling stories there so far

[gaunt marten]

The Outlands, Sigil, and the planes which are neither outer nor inner are all the most conducive to storytelling

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/a2/Planes-5e.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180207035855

[slim thorn]

indeed, so far we've been running around Sigil

and I think I'm about halfway through the game

[gaunt marten]

I think the new Baldur's Gate has a story about the Nine Hells that works fine. I know a released module for the TTRPG does

[slim thorn]

also this stupid chaos mage cursed me with hiccups

[quiet swift]

[slim thorn]

TIL that the Elder Scrolls 1 and 2 were largely procedurally generated worlds

[weak river]

I'm sure that Bethesda's developers were thankful for that, given how massive the maps were back then.

...still, we would probably have some pretty entertaining articles about the development process had the devs been required to make all ~161,000 km of Daggerfall's map by hand.

[hushed onyx]

That and it probably wouldn't actually have been finished by now

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/first-ever-grammy-award-for-videogame-score-goes-to-ac-valhalla-dawn-of-ragnarok-composer/

[light gate]

I think I'm the only player that has gotten really far in Mane Merge, because holy crap this game is super grindy.

[proud warren]

took a bit but I got thru it

[craggy vine]

I got my Macbook for WORK. I am definitely not downloaded resident evil village on it right now

[quiet swift]

[craggy vine]

[craggy vine]

Nowhere near the best graphics, a little jarring after playing games on a 2070 super, but this is damn impressive. Smooth too. Only the intro thing cause now I gotta go to bed

Fans not even turning on

I am already hopeful for mac gaming

[quiet swift]

Hey folks, a friend of mine has been working on this game solo for a few years (though I think he commissioned someone for the music!). Indie dev, and he just released his game today. Have a look for crazy naval battle action. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1482750/Waves_of_Steel/

Steam

Waves of Steel

Across the globe, tyrants are seizing power! Their innumerable military forces seem impossible to stop, rolling across all organized resistance like a wave of steel. But their reach is not quite limitless. In the seas and oceans of the world, resistance holds strong...for now. Take command of one of the few remaining free warships. Resist, liber...

Price

$14.99

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[gaunt marten]

I remember this game

[quiet swift]

It's at 1.0 status 🙂

[gaunt marten]

Looks nice. Not my genre though

[thorny loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8m47pGxGaM

[fickle garnet]

https://youtu.be/vYlPwlvl0zg

[visual hill]

I think what's painful is the display's contrast ratio, rather than the visuals themselves 😛

(IPS is… not good for horror games)

the MacBooks do have local dimming, but you can't enable it for SDR content IIRC. (Plus, local dimming slows down the already-slow response times of the display, so it's ill-advised for most games)

[craggy vine]

Yeah true

My tv screen is even worse though

[visual hill]

I wonder if MacBooks will go OLED one day. There are 16:10 3K 120 Hz OLED displays in some laptops now – this would have been unthinkable just 2 years ago

(not 4K, but 3K 16:10 is pretty good for a laptop; you can target 1440×900 or 1600×1000 with integer upscaling for demanding games)

[craggy vine]

My phone in 2014 had OLED. It has been a thing for ages

And yeah I don't really see them using OLED

[visual hill]

AMOLED isn't the same kind of OLED subpixel structure though, it's less detailed and not suited for displays larger than a tablet

[craggy vine]

Nor do I entirely want OLED because of the battery drain

[craggy vine]

Aah okay

[quiet swift]

that's not a collab i expected

[slim thorn]

what am I looking at?

[quiet swift]

first row, 4th box

[slim thorn]

ah

[dire gate]

Well Doomfist in his prime was basically the One Punch Man

[wind stump]

0 deaths wtf

As a healer no less

[gaunt marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/10vdvbw/gshade_updates_discontinued/j7gxddo/?context=1

TLDR:gshade's dev added code to shutdown ur pc if it detected third party software using gshade shader assets. Its recommended to uninstall to avoid issues later on, versions before 4.1.0 are *safe* but there are still some concerns about it not working with things like xivLauncher and such. Reshade is a safe alternative

[gaunt marten]

https://store.steampowered.com/video/watch/2311500/

Steam Next Fest February 2023 introduction video.

This is more effort than they put into their actual sales

I guess I'm glad they're pushing very hard for playable demos, because demos are a good way to avoid unnecessary refunds

But I'm mostly interested in demos for games that are already released

[quiet swift]

https://twitter.com/poppy_haze/status/1622413636844064768?s=20

Rev. Poppy Haze (@poppy_haze)

Chinese sources are telling me Director Zhuang Guotai of the China Meteorological Bureau was fired because he was an "addict" to the video game War Thunder and was trying to settle an forums argument about US radar coverage.

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[minor plover]

I want this to be true

[slim thorn]

ah yes, of course it's the lawful neutral cube people that created proto-D&D within what was already literally D&D

[gaunt marten]

Modrons?

[slim thorn]

yep

[gaunt marten]

Modrons are very cute. The hierarchy system is super interesting

[slim thorn]

I liked the modrons in the brothel that were just there to study human behavior

[gaunt marten]

In the lore™️ Modrons have no independence or thoughts of their own and can only communicate one level up or down in complexity. Any higher and their language is too complex. Any lower and they're too inconsequential.

Sometimes Modrons go rogue and develop independent thoughts

The best source on Modrons is the Great Modron March (1997)

The titular march being a crossplanar migration they do every 289 years

They're my favorite

[slim thorn]

one of my favorite little optional side moments in this game was the modron story you can ask the storyteller to recite

ah, TVTropes' Quotes page for this game has a transcript

"Once upon a time, there existed a Modron. It was newly-created, its logic fresh and untested, and it had come to Sigil, following the commands of its Modron superiors.
"It knew of nothing but commands and dictates, of obedience and passing along the orders of its superiors. For you see, Modrons are only aware of the commands of their immediate superiors - they have no grasp of a higher authority. Until this one.
"One day it came upon a small shop, within which there was a small clock that could no longer tell time. It was cracked along the edges, the wheels of its hands broken. The Modron immediately set itself to work at getting the parts to fix the broken clock.
"It made a new wooden housing for the clock's parts, replaced the bent springs, carefully filed and oiled the clockwork machinery, and carved new hands from the sparse metal available to it. The newly-repaired clock's precise ticking reminded it of the great gears of Mechanus, and it comforted it as much as any thing may comfort a Modron.
"And what the Modron never came to understand was that it truly loved this clock that it had worked on, and for reasons it could not explain, elected to remain in Sigil and be with the clock for the rest of its years."
— "The Clock and the Quadrone"

[rugged flax]

JoyCon drift lawsuit got thrown out
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/02/judge-tosses-joy-con-drift-class-action-because-of-switchs-pop-up-eula/

[gaunt marten]

Quadrones are great

[gaunt marten]

Yep. We talked about this already yesterday. Feels unfair

[arctic fern]

this is complete bullshit btw

[rugged flax]

That's binding arbitration clauses for ya.

[gaunt marten]

Typically in binding arbitration clauses the company pays all the arbitration costs, so showing them why binding arbitration clauses are not great only takes time and efforts... From everyone

(you also pay for transport and opportunity cost)

[slim thorn]

recruitable cube spotted?

[gaunt marten]

That would be so cool

I wanna play this game

[slim thorn]

it's certainly lived up to the hype so far

like any other RPG, I need a walkthrough handy to keep it playable and fun, but the dialogue trees and general writing quality that I came here for are consistently excellent for every main and side quest I've tried thus far

[gaunt marten]

My first impression was disappointing because all the songs are not a good fit to play in my DnD campaign

[slim thorn]

I think the only non-obvious caveat would be that the main quest is a very slow burn, since you have no idea who you are at the start and no one else seems to know enough to just tell you all the answers

[gaunt marten]

Classic 90s amnesia story

[slim thorn]

yup

[gaunt marten]

Easiest storyline to write

[slim thorn]

granted amnesia through immortality in the outer planes is a nice change

[river veldt]

what was that one romantic comedy called

the one where the guy was in a coma and the lady lied about being his wife

anf he lost all his memories

[gaunt marten]

That's like thirty shows

[river veldt]

it was While You Were Sleeping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While_You_Were_Sleeping_(film)

its pretty good

if you like 90s romantic comedies that is

[gaunt marten]

I like 90s but not the other parts

[river veldt]

aw

what about Sandra Bullock do you like her

[gaunt marten]

I don't know actors

[river veldt]

oh

she played the lady in the BLind Side

[gaunt marten]

I don't know that

[river veldt]

uhhhhh

[icy crescent]

im a toy

[slim thorn]

multiversal warehouse service with the space of literal pocket dimensions, and this is their authentication procedure

[sonic dune]

"I have a plan ORTHOR"~ Dutch VanDerlind

[visual hill]

I don't even play Smash 64, but the level of dedication that goes into Smash Remix is impressive. They made custom animations for the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5RCch7LGF0

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/k1-Sc-1u6Hc

Don't know if anyone else in here watches SovietWomble but seeing the ZF clan as clone troopers is the single best thing ever

It just fits so well

[fickle garnet]

That's great

Sovietwomble is funny

[dire gate]

https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/1622648296555544592

Juan Linietsky (@reduzio)

Guess which game engine is the fastest growing in the Global Game Jam 2023? (Hint: It isn't a sponsor.)

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2023, 5:27 PM

[slim thorn]

congrats Cal

[mossy flume]

Now rewrite it in Rust /s

[wintry canopy]

Time to playthrough the title update 4 in style.

[thorny loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSN81y9RyEk

[dapper cedar]

Heard you like Xbox so I put an Xbox in your Xbox so you can Xbox whil

[thorny loom]

Xenia will be nice for the 360 games that dont get backwards compatibility

[mossy flume]

The Yuzu emulator was also ported to Switch.

One might note that Yuzu is already a Switch emulator.

The most unnecessary emulation.

[proud warren]

[slim thorn]

so lately I've been watching videos about games I don't play, and the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CpNPLCohUg describes Gothic 1 + 2 and Risen (you start out feeling underpowered, expect to die a lot, the map is open but full of enemies you can't kill yet, most NPCs don't care about you or your quest, "complete lack of hand-holding and that frustrating yet satisfying sense of accomplishment") sounded an awful lot like this stuff you were saying a while back

[hidden elbow]

Gothic 1 really like that....for the first half

The second half it becomes "go there, bring me this and go on another quest"

[slim thorn]

ah, the video did bring that up (and said Gothic 2 was better on that point) so that's reassuring

[random steppe]

Oh yeah, I remember the Gothic series, lots of jank but great series

[slim thorn]

ah well, I'd never heard of it before so figured it was a toss-up whether you had

[random steppe]

I didn't play them much, I mostly know them by reputation, I played around with 2 when I was in my teens

I think it was 2

[quiet swift]

Hm, darkest dungeon 2 on may 8th it seems

[honest orchid]

https://youtu.be/3_vKbcTNF50
Tried landing

[spiral kraken]

Is Godot Engine easy to use ?

[gaunt marten]

It's pretty good accessibility wise

[dire gate]

Nintendo announced that they are raising the base salary of every employees by 10% from April.

[gaunt marten]

Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6eyt8iQ9sQ

It's a collaboratively designed map pack

Seems great

[heady bridge]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1622958367374458882

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

Tune in at 2 p.m. PST tomorrow, Feb. 8, for a #NintendoDirect livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information mostly focused on #NintendoSwitch games launching in the first half of 2023.

Watch it live here: https://t.co/8ce3reaEig

Twitter · Feb 7, 2023, 2:00 PM

[river veldt]

epic!

[quiet swift]

No, Nintendo

[heady bridge]

69%, nice

[wind stump]

poor Kirby

i wanna see more of them new abilities

[heady bridge]

I mean it's just a port with a few extra bells and whistles

[wind stump]

I WANT THOSE BELLS AND WHISTLES

[young creek]

i dont think I can go back to 2d kirby after mastapiece 3d kirby

[fresh bane]

bayonetta origins
0%

also nice

[heady bridge]

My issue is I already have enough to play with Fire Emblem Engage, The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure finally out officially in the West in March, Trails into Reverie in July plus with Zelda in May too, I'm pretty much set for a large chunk of the year. Advance Wars too if that finally gets a date as well.

[river veldt]

OMG I FORGOR ABOUT KIRBYS RETURN TO DREAM LAND DELUXE

HYPE

[fresh bane]

Ultimately people wanna see what they wanna see but it does feel a bit sad when other franchises get basically no attention

Like me personally I heard practically nothing about that one Kirby game that came out

[slim thorn]

I was also unaware anything was going on with Kirby

although personally I'm not sure I'm invested in any of these franchises atm

[river veldt]

I feel like Forgotten Land was talked about pretty extensively in Mane

[young creek]

mastapiece

[river veldt]

it is a very good gamr

[slim thorn]

apparently you told me to play Forgotten Land in mid-November and it's been mentioned 5 times since then

[young creek]

it may have been slightly

slightly

[slim thorn]

I think it just blended into all the other names of Kirbys I've never played

[young creek]

overshadowed by elden ring releasing weeks prior

[river veldt]

me?

[heady bridge]

To be fair, a new Zelda was gonna overshadow most stuff anyway, especially one as a follow up to a game as acclaimed as Breath of the Wild was.

[slim thorn]

yes?

[river veldt]

epic

i dont remmember that lol

but i have

notoriously bad memory

but yes you should play it

its cute and fun and happy

[slim thorn]

[young creek]

and then it turns into final fantasy

[river veldt]

yea

[young creek]

mastapiece..

It might be in my top 3 of 2022 with hollow knight and elden

[river veldt]

whoa!

[slim thorn]

HK was 2017 lol

[river veldt]

you also fight a big gorilla

[young creek]

I played it in 2022

[slim thorn]

ah

[river veldt]

i have no idea what my 2022 game of the year was

maybe Half Life 2

[young creek]

we had awards bro

[fresh bane]

The only thing I remember seeing from Kirby was the cute furry lady but even then I didn't even see that much of it

I thought that game would've blown up a lot more than it did

[slim thorn]

me neither, I can never remember what I played in a specific year

[young creek]

stop screwing around..

[river veldt]

oh lol

yea that's about right lol

[heady bridge]

If you go by games that came out in 2022 my GotY was Xenoblade Chronicles 3

[young creek]

How can you even say that when Maretime Bay Adventure released in may 2022

[fresh bane]

can't believe maretime bay adventures didn't win goty

[hidden elbow]

Imagine ,like, this battle between genshin impact and sonic frontiers ,and then maretime bay adventures just bursts out into the leader board and completely obliterates both of them by score and goes on a first place

[hushed onyx]

My 2022 game of the year was Elite Dangerous, pretty straightforwardly.

Yes, I know it’s not a 2022 game even if you count Odyssey, but I played it way more than anything else.

[static bluff]

https://nintendowire.com/news/2023/02/07/official-earthbound-chosen-four-plushes-will-re-release-on-february-14th-2023/?feed_id=15319&fbclid=IwAR27RTLSEwRHJWhL90JbtuaKBuC9GswwKMuEjfAL7ymPEUdQiLA94ZO5TyY

Dang we don't have an earthbound role. Oh well - @unreal idol ^ plush

@sour hill ^ See this is why we need an Earthbound role

[unreal idol]

I hope they ship overseas for not dumb-prices

11,000 yen is a good deal for an item like this

I'll be sure to try and get this, thanks for telling me about it!

[static bluff]

You bet!

[gaunt marten]

110 dollars?

85 dollars now

[unreal idol]

I'd be okay dropping that amount

Even a bit more than that

I like the box where it depicts their homes too. That's super awesome

[slim thorn]

and here I thought he was the one sane NPC in this area

[fresh bane]

Hi Fi Rush spoilers
This is such a feel good ending man, I'm so incredibly in love with this game and the characters it's not even funny

|| and the post game content and customization of characters, god fucking damn the developers really fucking cared and loved this game ||

[slim thorn]

pfft, I found the illegal back-alley raptor fights

[green fulcrum]

Lol, he called the raptor a bird. They predicted future science.

[slim thorn]

I'm probably being technically wrong by calling them "raptors" anyway, apparently these "Tricha" look more bird-like than a velociraptor: https://torment.fandom.com/wiki/Tricha

[gaunt marten]

Oh you're in the outlands

[slim thorn]

yep

[teal sonnet]

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1623045683363082240

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Over a million people are watching Hogwarts Legacy right now

Twitter · Feb 7, 2023, 7:47 PM

holy shit

[thorny loom]

Nice

[quiet swift]

Meanwhile, there's a page that tracks who is playing it on twitch in a "oh they're playing this phobic game? cancel then". Lovely -_-

[teal sonnet]

lmao

twitter sure is stupid as fuck

[visual hill]

it's my first Kirby game and I like it a lot so far

[visual hill]

[thorny loom]

https://www.humblebundle.com/membership

[mossy flume]

Been playing it. It’s surprisingly good so far.

[green fulcrum]

IGN gave Hogwarts Legacy a 9/10.

[river veldt]

Im glad youre liking it!!!!!

[thorny loom]

@mossy flume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT2rEgeCJCE

[mossy flume]

IMO thus far Hogwarts Legacy is the game that the series has been needing forever.

It’s pretty and very well detailed

And Hogwarts is enormous, wow

[thorny loom]

Yeah the last time we got a harry potter game was the movie license ones

[mossy flume]

This is awesome, thanks for sharing

[rancid herald]

every time I think of this game I lay back in my bed with a picture of Wheel of Time and sigh wistfully /s

[mossy flume]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/7/23589173/nintendo-direct-february-2023-nintendo-switch

Rumor is that we’ll get the full preview of Tears of the Kingdom and a release date for Advance Wars 1+2 Remake

Hoooooping we get some sort of word on Metroid Prime 4, but not really holding my breath on that

[rancid herald]

really? a full preview of a game that's due to release in a few months? I'm shocked

probably just tell us it's delayed another year

[dapper cedar]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Prime 4 is more a Switch successor game than a Switch game

Man I still need to play the Primes

[young creek]

imagine if they do a launch trailer like the first one had

[mossy flume]

Same. Honestly at this point that would be the ideal thing.

[young creek]

greatest trailer of all time

[rancid herald]

I kind of want them to announce the switch 2 tomorrow

[mossy flume]

Prime 4 was announced at the beginning of the Switch’s lifespan and now we’re at the end of it with nothing in sight.

[mossy flume]

Probably won’t announce it until this winter or next spring.

But they definitely should announce that soon

Switch is kinda done.

[thorny loom]

Yeah. The new zelda is expected to be the last major release for the switch

[rancid herald]

no no, they do the trailer for tears of the kingdom

[mossy flume]

Make Prime 4 a key launch title for Switch 2

[rancid herald]

it's big and all

[thorny loom]

And then its actually skyrim

[river veldt]

Goodness gracious i hope they stick with hybrid console, i cant go back to home console only

[rancid herald]

but then at the end there's a title screen like:
"Tears of the kingdom, only on Nintendo Switch"

Except after a 0.5 second delay the i in switch doubles so it's Swiitch

crowd goes wild

[dapper cedar]

Isn’t portable hardware really really good now

[mossy flume]

“Sorry it took so long, but here’s a trailer for Prime 4, built with Unreal Engine 5.”

If only.

[dapper cedar]

I could see the Switch brand going on at least one more generation with improved hardware

I hope anyway, Switch is cool as hell

[thorny loom]

You give nintendo too much credit ma

[rancid herald]

I kind of think Nintendo needs to build a console brand identity. They tried with the Wii but fucked it up with the shit show known as Wii u

call it Wii 2 you cowards

[mossy flume]

“Prime 4 now available on PC. RTX 4090 required. 300 hour campaign.”

[thorny loom]

Lol

The day nintendo goes to pc the console wars are over

[rancid herald]

Nintendo partners with Hasbro and releases Metroid Prime 4 exclusively on Optimus Prime figures that transform into a nintendo switch instead of a truck

[mossy flume]

ESRB Rated M

Samus says fuck once.

[arctic fern]

i would pay real money for transformer toys that turned into a nintendo switch

[visual hill]

funny thing, I'm playing DF2 with OpenJKDF2 right now

that remake looks pretty nice, but I'm playing the later stages currently

[thorny loom]

@visual hill cali. Did you see xenia got ported the series x

[visual hill]

yes, you posted it here a few days ago 🙂

[thorny loom]

Ah rught

https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-14-gshade-mod-twitter-trend-developer-malware/?

[visual hill]

Reshade is love, Reshade is life

[sonic dune]

You seen those warriors from hammerfell?
They've got curved swords.
Curved. Swords.

[proud warren]

https://vxtwitter.com/dafthusky/status/1622674779483381783?s=46&t=PiNy7KXVfrydBZlXZjYbBw

[mossy flume]

Meanwhile the core FFXIV client mod tool is being abused by cheaters to achieve world firsts in new raids and YoshiP is furious about it.

Those client mods give substantial QoL improvements to the interface and the official stance on these mods has always been "just don't use it to cheat and don't discuss it in-game" but the fact that people are now using it to get an advantage for world firsts may result in it getting banned straight up, ruining it for everyone.

Dreading the day when that happens.

Dalamud is a very useful tool =(

[quiet swift]

From what I heard, it was something about making the camera distance even further, giving them way more of an overview of abilities during the fight?

[random steppe]

For the TOP kill, yes

This situation in particoular, is about Gshade and has not much about what the plugin does, and more about the fact that the dev went on an ego trip and decided to put malware into it, that was triggered by a plugin for his plugin he didn't like

Unsurprisingly, the community was unsympathetic to this dev reasons as to why he put malware on their computer

[thorny loom]

Yeah ghade is officially dead

https://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-14-dispute-ends-in-the-death-of-its-most-popular-mod/

[random steppe]

And was instatly replaced back by reshade

In minutes

[slim thorn]

was about to say, surely someone forked it

[random steppe]

It's the other way around

Gshade was a reshade fork

People just went back to that one

[slim thorn]

oh lol

[random steppe]

As MA pointed out, the biggest damage is to the fact that this is more plugin drama, which we don't need

[river veldt]

wait what

[random steppe]

Since they are already basically not allowed by the TOS, and the devs close an eye on

But if too much stuff with them cause drama, we might force them to crack the whip on that policy

Which would be unfortunate

[slim thorn]

it's very much a "this is why we can't have nice things" situation

[random steppe]

Pretty much

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i05L-FaDhko

[mossy flume]

Hype

[rancid herald]

hope we get to date Ashoka in this one

[dire gate]

Just cleared Celeste

[astral field]

How arrogant do you have to be to put actual malware inside your product in order to punish users of a competitor and still think you are the good guy? Holy cow.

[thorny loom]

https://twitter.com/BenjiSales/status/1623148861567995905

Benji-Sales (@BenjiSales)

GameStop, Best Buy, and Amazon have stopped taking pre-orders on Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

This follows Nintendo listing the game at $70 on the eShop before quickly taking it down. Looks like we'll be getting official announcement Nintendo is moving to $70 at tomorrow's Direct

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Twitter · Feb 8, 2023, 2:36 AM

sigh

[mossy flume]

Oh boy

[teal sonnet]

fuck

lucky those who got at $60

[unreal idol]

Fuck you Nintendo

[rancid herald]

is this not the standard price these days?

[unreal idol]

I dunno, I rarely buy games

But I've never paid $70 for one

I was hoping that price point would stick to meme companies like ubisoft

[river veldt]

i think Sony games have moved to 70 dollars too

yea it looks like 70$ is becoming the standard

[rancid herald]

70 is like 90 in canada money

so all my games be 90s

[river veldt]

yeesh

anyways, idk 70$ doesnt feel egregious to me, most of the time it’s games that would probably occupy 100% of my time so i feel like i get me moneys worth

[unreal idol]

This game better deliver if they charge $70

Very disappointing

[river veldt]

oh it looks like Xbox games are gonna start costing 70 too

[unreal idol]

Guess we'll see what the Direct brings tomorrow

[mossy flume]

$70 is indeed the standard as of this generation.

[river veldt]

when is TotK supposed to come out

May?

[unreal idol]

Pretty big buzz kill if this is indeed the case

[river veldt]

this is not the point but ive been admiring this art for like 5 minutes now its so pretty

[teal sonnet]

they do are more expensive as fuck to produce now

not all games should be $70

but good quality AAA games does seems a "fair" price

[rancid herald]

tbh, I really find the whole discourse over game prices kind of meh

for me, all games, all the time, have had the same price upon release

[teal sonnet]

Zelda is a weird one because is an AAA game that will likely get replaced very soon with a better version once the switch 2 comes out

[rancid herald]

I don't really know why people have the idea that this hasn't always been the case

[mossy flume]

Games used to be more expensive back in the cartridge days

Remember when N64 games cost $70-$90?

Or even more in some cases

[teal sonnet]

that was because the cartridge itself was expensive as fuck right?

[mossy flume]

Yep

[teal sonnet]

reason why discs took off so hard

cartridge would be similar to buying a game and coming inside of a ssd in today's time

I was going to say flashdrive but those are cheap as fuck now

[mossy flume]

Flash is a bit different from ROM, though.

But yeah, I imagine it would be pretty cheap these days. But not as cheap as discs or just downloads.

[rancid herald]

I remember getting pokemon snap for my birthday and being utterly crushed when I finished it in a day

Because it was so expensive and because it was basically a delayed birthday gift because of it

[random steppe]

Yeah for 70 bucks they can keep their overpriced garbage.
Already was not keen in buying a console for the privilege to give them money for their game, exclusivity is bad and Nintendo is the worse of them all about it

The sucky part is that it will trickle to pc as well but its fine, there is like two AAA release a year that are worth buying anymore

[rancid herald]

you should do what I do

wait for sony to release playstation exclusives on pc!

then suffer because your high-ish end PC still can't play them

[random steppe]

The recent sony stuff that came out was playable with relatively mild specs

[rancid herald]

yeah I don't get it either

I be playing Miles Morales and for half a second my whole computer freezes

[random steppe]

Played God of War and Spiderman this and last year, it was fine

[rancid herald]

and I know it's the computer because the RGBs light up like it lost connection

Horizon Zero dawn was a chore to get running for some godforsaken reason

[random steppe]

Ok Zero dawn was shit

That is extremely fair

Garbage port

[rancid herald]

it turns out I had to turn on gigabyte's program thinger to make the card go woosh even though there's no reason for it to be limited

of course, gigabyte's program thinger causes window's lock screen to not sleep

for REASONS

Spider-man certainly isn't unplayable but it just feels very odd to me

[rancid herald]

jesus

I looked it up and found this website https://www.gamesindustry.biz/are-video-games-really-more-expensive

If true a super nintendo game would be like 136 dollars in today's money D:

[icy crescent]

Always loving the sounds

[bleak lintel]

You can game very cheap these days, more so if you don't buy the worst version of games (Day one)

[unreal idol]

If Switch Homebrew wasn't cancer I'd probably just pirate it

I was reading a how to and one of the steps involved grounding one of the joy con rails, so I immediately dropped the idea

Makes me miss Wii homebrew lol

Now THAT was some fun shit

I remember doing some real goofy shit with an Ftp program so I could watch anime from my PC on the Wii to my CRT

Just because I could lol

[bleak lintel]

I think people are saying might be able to use the Nintendo voucher on the Zelda game.

[unreal idol]

I remember seeing an ad for those but I ignored it

What exactly are they

[bleak lintel]

You get 2 for 100$ then you can exchange one for a game at any price.

https://www.nintendo.com/store/games/game-voucher-eligible/

[unreal idol]

Sounds too good to be true

But let's see

[bleak lintel]

I guess we'll know soon if Zelda direct is today.

[unreal idol]

Oh. Are they for digital copies only

[bleak lintel]

Yeah.

[unreal idol]

Dang

If available I'll buy a physical copy of a game

Unless it's super dumb and limited print or randomly expensive

I dislike digital only unless it's very cheap or my only option

Because if I'm going to be giving Nintendo $70 I at least want a small bitter piece of plastic to suck on so I can cry out my frustration

(Seriously switch games taste like shit listen to past PK)

[mossy flume]

They actually dropped the bittering agent after a couple years

Can confirm that early cartridges tasted horrible though

[unreal idol]

They did!?

Now I really am getting ripped off lmao

I shall test this later for science and education purposes only

[heady bridge]

Tbh I paid £42 for Fire Emblem Engage at launch if I go physical at Argos so I doubt I’ll be paying £60/$70 for Zelda anyway.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/07/nintendo-gives-staff-pay-rise-despite-a-fall-in-profits-18241706/

If they do put up the prices I wonder if this is part of the reason why.

[quiet swift]

https://www.thegamer.com/the-day-before-accused-copying-another-game-trailer

Oh boy, this game

[slim thorn]

the reality of inflation is that wages and prices both have to go up eventually, so for a company that's not in any immediate cash flow danger, there's probably no strong direct causation

[gaunt marten]

Problem is wages have went way down compared to inflation, so people have a lot less money they can justify spending on luxuries.

And prices went up anyway!

[unreal idol]

part of my gripe is Nintendo has enough cash on hand to operate at a net loss for decades and still be in business or some insane shit

and are just in general an extremely successful company

so in my eyes, this has nothing to do with inflation or combatting the rising costs of game development, it's simply greed

[heady bridge]

I believe a big reason Nintendo holds on to such a large amount of cash is to immunise itself from takeovers

[slim thorn]

yeah, part of what's effed up about the current world economy is the wealth inequality being so huge that this is effectively true for a lot of people, and instead the inflated prices are targeting the most affluent consumers left

[unreal idol]

that would make sense

[heady bridge]

It's how even with the Wii U's struggles they didn't get taken over, well that and the 3DS eventually becoming successful after a dodgy launch....

[unreal idol]

especially how in the early 00s they were able to literally laugh Microsoft out of a meeting room when they offered to buy them

and that too

[gaunt marten]

This is exactly what regional pricing exists to help with - capturing every slice of the market including those with less money, by offering cheaper prices to those who tend to have less money, like the elderly or people in poorer countries

Unfortunately, Nintendo doesn't do much of that

[quiet swift]

In today's "what the flying fuck, customer?". This is like a fifth of the entire message. One of multiple emails of similar length he has sent.

u have ruined my life now and i have nothing to get up to an play with
others now anymore thx to all ur fucking payment errors, is just too alte
now and u have soured my gameplay xperience and WASTED these past 5 months
of me farming achvies and rep and building my guild. I i will miss these
ppl SO much, tehre is nother mmo games by now ppl without smartphones or
anal buttplugs can sign up to and sub to without FUCKING ERRORS or these
exasuting useless support tickets which u cant even make without a fucking
phone.```

[unreal idol]

this might be a risky button to press, but that's not surprising at all for a japanese company

many big japanese companies treat their global markets as if they behave, earn, and spend identically to japan and the US bay area

[quiet swift]

because apparently smartphones are part of a nazi new world order and require chips in your butt to work...? According to this guy.

[unreal idol]

konami suffers from this massively with yugioh which is why it's such a clown show in the west

[quiet swift]

[gaunt marten]

In other news, https://store.steampowered.com/app/247080/Crypt_of_the_NecroDancer/

Steam

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Price

$2.99

Recommendations

20170

Metacritic

87

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[heady bridge]

Thing is, with Microsoft and Sony already having upped the price of games and Nintendo being in the rare position of having the cheapest games I feel it was only a matter of time before their game prices at launch were also gonna go up, for the top tier stuff like Zelda and Mario anyway... Though I would imagine they might of held off until the launch of the Switch's successor to do so.

[static bluff]

oh damn

[gaunt marten]

All DLC pack is 62% off

[static bluff]

okay I think it's time I finally get this game

[gaunt marten]

Or uh

It's 66% off, depending on which items you have

[grim stirrup]

i should get synchron

[fresh bane]

I'm late to the Zelda at 70 bucks convo but in my opinion it just feels super egregious coming from nintendo specifically due to their practices lol

[slim thorn]

which practices?

[fresh bane]

Overpriced stuff that seldom goes on sale and their overreliance on limited things like when they made that "remastered" collection of Mario games a limited purchase for some reason even though it's a digital release and not a physical one, felt like an attempt to manipulate people into buying it because it's limited and not because the product was worth it which it wasn't and still isn't

Or how the Skyward Sword remaster/re-release was like 60 bucks when the original was still in stores and was like 30 or 40 still, that rerelease does include some nice changes but it's nothing so major that it warranted a 60 dollar price tag let alone the original which was already ten years old or even more

[visual hill]

the $70 Zelda will probably be felt more in the long run than on other platforms, because Nintendo isn't known to heavily discount their older-but-still-popular releases

see how much MK8 Deluxe still costs today, despite being released like 5 years ago (and itself being an updated version of a Wii U game)