general gaming

[slim thorn]

also RE0 is super weird/interesting on the hoarding side of things

[visual hill]

(from a game design perspective, there are ways to discourage hoarding or excessive reloading, but it's not done often enough unfortunately)

[slim thorn]

for those who didn't play Resident Evil Zero: there are no item boxes / ender chests, you control two characters with 6 slots each, but you can put items down anywhere on the map, and doing that or poking an item without picking it up will add a colored dot to the in-game map for that item

[fresh bane]

I don't think discouraging hoarding would be a good idea

hoarding is just a sign of a player being good at the game

it's a reward unto itself

[visual hill]

in Thief for instance, your inventory doesn't carry over to the next mission with rare exceptions, so keeping all your fire/water/gas arrows is useless

[fresh bane]

Right, I heard this, it's... not great

[visual hill]

(unfortunately, you don't know in advance if the next mission will carry over your inventory… but 95% of the time, it doesn't)

[slim thorn]

I have many many thoughts on when that does and doesn't work, but it is interesting that it sometimes makes me consciously think "I should pick up these items and carry them over here"

or "I'll just leave those herbs alone for later" and then hours later "god dammit now I wish I hoarded those herbs because now there's zombie monkeys in that room"

[fresh bane]

Well I'm talking about survival horror games in this instance, discouraging hoarding would be a bad idea when a lot of players especially inexperienced ones will not hoard at all

they will sometimes use up all their resources entirely

[slim thorn]

if anything I overhoarded every RE game to varying degrees

[fresh bane]

which if you ask me is weird because I always have more than enough but I'm me

[fresh bane]

ah yes the classic zombie monkeys

[slim thorn]

eh, there were still times when I ran out of a certain resource despite having picked up literally every item of that type on the map

now, to be clear, IMO part of the survival horror experience is always feeling like you're on the verge of having too few items so you can't stop looking for more of them, so that's good

[fresh bane]

right, but running out of resources is almost always on you as the player, if you run out of healing items well that's your fault, if you run out of a certain ammo type well you should've known how to use it better/known to save it up for later instead of immedaitely

if you run out of ammunition that's your fault for not saving up and so and so

[slim thorn]

the only parts where I'd complain about it are ones where it felt like the margin of error was too small or there were no good ways to skillfully use less of a resource, like in RE0 I'm basically always at 0-2 heals because some of the enemies are impossible to not get hit by and that is dumb

[fresh bane]

Yeah no RE0 is not well designed at all

[slim thorn]

whereas in RE1 there are so many enemies you can evade, or choose to permanently burn up, so that you don't need to waste ammo on them, that it really is on you if you run out

[fresh bane]

that's kinda why it's one of the most forgotten RE games

it's not really great

in RE1 I used so little ammo by the time the game ended I still had 100+ pistol rounds

[slim thorn]

in RE2 you kinda had to kill most enemies but it gave you enough ammo that was mostly fine if you picked the right weapons, it's just part of what I mean when I say it (as in, not RE4) was the start of the transition to action

[fresh bane]

I remember replaying RE2 a couple years back with the HD packs on and thinking the game was way too easy

I remember encountering a lot of ammo it's very forgiving

but I didn't get past the RPD so it was only during the beginning portion

in RE3 I'm having some trouble especially because I decided to fight Nemesis a lot of times so he burned through my resources

[slim thorn]

yeah, it's when you have multiple weapons that it becomes possible to burn up ammo by not knowing what the right weapon is

[fresh bane]

but that's on me and I did get rewarded for it

[slim thorn]

e.g. the sub machine gun is terrible on regular zombies but pretty decent on other stuff

and iirc the games never quite tell you which enemies are weak to fire vs acid

Tale discovered she had some long-held incorrect beliefs about that during my RE2RE run

[fresh bane]

I always look it up

I don't have the manuals for these games so it's fair

the game never really tells you and you really don't have the resources to just go up and experiment

[slim thorn]

ironically the reason we found out is that I had just the right combination of resources that I had to experiment

iirc it was ClaireB station basement with the lickers, I had grenades of both types but nowhere near enough of either to kill every licker, so I just had to use some of both and decided to carefully count as I did so

we discovered that part of the confusion is that if a licker is on the floor, fire effectively does extra damage because of all that extra fire on the floor

man that game was so good

anyway you've probably gathered from other conversations that I'm the type of gamer where having to look anything up outside the game is IMO a failure of game design; it's the game's job to provide me with just the right balance of clear information and uncertainty to keep things fun

at least everyone seems to agree with me on how these principles apply to in-game maps these days

[fresh bane]

Well...

I'm not sure, I think looking up the damage values to find out what ammo type is the best is fine enough but it would always be cool if the game at least gave you a hint, if there really is any weakness at all

I think Hunters are weak to acid rounds but there's never really any indication or text that says so

then again, back in the olden days, these things would probably be in the manual that you always had with your physical compact disc videogame

[slim thorn]

we did look up that hunters are weak to acid just to be sure

we believe it's meant to be implied by a handful of times in RE1 (and once in 0) where they give you acid grenades before a hunter fight

[fresh bane]

I guess but that's still pretty vague and unclear

and to be fair fire or grenade rounds would still do the trick just fine

[slim thorn]

indeed, and they don't necessarily expect that last item they gave you to be all the ammo you need, it's just a hint

actually I feel like all of the REs did a lot of "we gave you this ammo type, hint hint" moments, but RE1 maybe the least so

I think 1 was the only game so far where I would regularly pick up a new ammo or weapon and then not use it at all for hours

[fresh bane]

''I can't use all the magnum rounds are you crazy!?''
''it's literally the final fight with the tyrant the chopper is right there''

b-but what if I need them for later

[slim thorn]

I think part of it is that RE1 is one of the least linear in when you can choose to pick up certain weapons

e.g. I saw through the shotgun trap immediately and refused to get it until I knew a safe way, but of course now that I've looked up what happens I know you can survive getting it much earlier if you want

[fresh bane]

RE1 is so non-linear that I had to use guides to re-calibrate what I'm doing and where I'm going each time I picked it back up

Yeah you can just pick it up and Barry helps you out

to be fair the game never tells you that

[slim thorn]

which is fine, part of the fun of that is making your own choice and discovering what happens; both options work out fine

oh, and I like how the remake revolver is a completely missable weapon

if I was being less of a Metroidvania 100%er about my RE maps I might've just not gotten it

[fresh bane]

yeah it's on the graveyard if you manage to get all the medallions which I did get

and to be fair it's missable but... you will know it exists

Like you know that the grave and the slots are there, so you know you missed something

[slim thorn]

right, it's very easy to find if you're looking for stuff

[fresh bane]

if you don't go back to pick it up it's because you actively chose not to do that

but it's so worth it and most of the times the medallions are just on the way to the puzzles so it's fine

i saved up all the magnum rounds for the final two tyrant fights and it was like, less than 5 min

[slim thorn]

I do not recall where the medallions were but I had no difficulty getting them

[fresh bane]

I actually don't remember either but I doubt you had to go out of your way to get them

[slim thorn]

I think I ended up using magnum rounds for a mix of situations but certainly including boss fights

[fresh bane]

I don't think I used more than the pistol and either shotgun or GL in any boss fights in RE1

they're not particularly hard until the tyrant

in RE3 it's mostly just Nemesis being on your ass all the time lol

I should pick that game back up I really wanna finish it

[slim thorn]

the Tyrant might be the only RE1 boss where I really did "use" magnum ammo

RE1 doesn't have that many bosses after all

snek was pre-magnum and I quickly realized I didn't even have to fight it, which was a bit of a moment

plant 42 I fought and then reloaded to do the poison method because I wanted to try both, but that still means on "the real timeline" I spent no magnum ammo on it

and... lisa's invincible

so Tyrant was kinda the only candidate for using the revolver on a boss anyway

[fresh bane]

..... you don't have to fight Yawn?

[slim thorn]

I'm pretty sure I also used the revolver a few times on hunters, and maybe one or two shots in a room where the zombies were super dense

nope

completely optional

[fresh bane]

welp

good thing it only took me like, a dozen handgun shots

it was surprisingly not very strong

I also stunlocked the shit out of it

Yeah! Abusing shitty enemy AI!

[slim thorn]

I think I ran around the room shotgunning him maybe 3 times before I went "...wait, the mask is right there, and he's not between it and me, so... yoink"

er wait Yawn 2 is unavoidable that's right

I completely forgot that fight for like the last ten minutes wtf

[fresh bane]

[slim thorn]

ok that fight I probably used both magnum and grenades

[fresh bane]

Wooooaaah that's so overkill

It took me a couple handgun rounds for me

[slim thorn]

...that doesn't sound right

or wait did you fight Yawn 1?

[fresh bane]

I know right?

I was surprised too

I did

I shot him real good

[slim thorn]

ok that's why then

I looked this up later and if you actually fight Yawn the first time then he has less health the second time

[fresh bane]

both fights are super short and also if you manage to run into such a position where his shitty AI can do nothing about you being there it's literally brainless

I positioned myself in such a way he'd pretty much always be slithering around me and I'd only have to ocassionally move again to his side and he has no side attacks like a swipe or anything so he couldn't do ANYTHING about it

Lisa is such an easy fight it was surprising, I got her first try and she didn't even hit me

I think she doesn't even target Barry either

[slim thorn]

(internet dropped, back now)

by the 2nd fight I also had enough game knowledge and ammo that I felt comfortable seriously trying it, even if that one had been optional too I likely would've gone for the kill

nah Lisa 100% targets Barry if you let him help

she didn't even try to hit me before I finished that

[fresh bane]

Interesting, I never saw her approach him, she'd always jump in front or behind me as I was pushing the things

and since Barry is always shooting her she'd go down pretty easy

I remember using like a single GL round for each knockdown? I think anyways

I had a lot of GL rounds

[slim thorn]

"go down"? are you talking about staggering her or ending the fight?

[fresh bane]

yeah the knockdown

she doesn't go down until you get all the things IIRC

[slim thorn]

ok cool

[fresh bane]

she's basically invincible

[slim thorn]

I was worried for a second we were talking about different bosses somehow

[fresh bane]

also she scared the shit out of me when she sucker punches you in the house

[slim thorn]

so yeah in my fight I never even aimed a weapon at her because Barry was there

[fresh bane]

somehow the idea of being stuck in a close enviroment with that... thing is just terrifying

[slim thorn]

I needed two tries to get out of the house

totally misjudged the hitboxes the first time

[fresh bane]

also an example of a really cool addition to the game because she wasn't there originally but she was a super cool addition to the remake

I didn't even bother to fight her that time

I just bolted straight out the house

I wasn't gonna waste no resources

[slim thorn]

well yeah I didn't "fight" her either

the game does tell you she's an invincible boss not to waste ammo on

I mean I needed two tries to bolt out

[fresh bane]

Ohh so she stunlocked you

she almost did that to me

[slim thorn]

iirc it was a two-hit kill so not much of a stunlock but yeah

[fresh bane]

Characters can easily get stunlocked in the old RE games I know Nemesis did that to me a million times and it.... is annoying

Playing RE3 is ironically enough somewhat like playing DMC in the sense that the dodge button has such a specific timing but you can indefinitely dodge as long as you have space to go

So it's such a rush to perfect dodge attacks

[slim thorn]

anyway, hopefully I can finish up either Path of Radiance or RE Zero this weekend, I'm getting fairly close in both

so that might mean I don't actually get to Dead Space Remake for a few days, depending on how schedules work out

[fresh bane]

Well I should get back to RE3 now that I finished DMC5's campaign for like, the 4th time

I also installed Titanfall 2 and it worked pretty alright

probably gonna try the online at some point

[wintry canopy]

Let's go, were finally getting news on title update 4. https://youtu.be/OrLELnHn-PA

[rugged flax]

oh hey, Tridashie did an any% speedrun of AMBA
https://youtu.be/Cu0BGphiQM8

[dire gate]

https://www.speedrun.com/mlp_amba

Tridashie is at #4, you can also see LittleshyFiM at #11

Tw3Lv3 at #37

[rugged flax]

Top Any% is 9m 57s 080ms
Top Any% Glitchless is 33m 51s 040ms
Top 100% is 38m 29s 190ms

[chilly mural]

can't wait for this game to be at gdq

[fresh bane]

''okay so now what's happening is we're using a commonly known glitch to be able to befriend everyone in maretime bay under the minimum time possible so we can maximize our friendship meter and unlock our alicorn form, it takes a lot of very precise cancel jumps into trots with horsie kicks so we'll need perfect execution aaaand, we got it. Alright so now what I'm goign to do is I'm going to quit out and load back in so the game is going to actually warp us into the final area and skip the cutscene, all we have to do now is use our giant friendship laser to defeat the final boss and... time!''

World Record, ez

[chilly mural]

where would the "that's never happened before" happen in the run?

[craggy vine]

Love when sunny brutally kills the final boss

[craggy vine]

Turns out gaming on my laptop is more valuable to me than I previously realized. Realizing I'll sometimes get more downtime than I realize while out working.

Guess I will be a Macbook gamer then

I still contemplate if I should have gotten a windows laptop I admit

[craggy vine]

Van gamin

[quiet swift]

Got two Steam codes for Dead Space! Was three, but @icy crescent already claimed one. Doing my usual 'get something from my steam wishlist top 20 and i give you the code' exchange. DM me if interested 😉

Down to one code!

[icy crescent]

[quiet swift]

All gone!

[visual hill]

I defeated that famous boss from Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

[wind stump]

Famous?

Goddamn furries

[visual hill]

I set up the real () GoldenEye remaster today, it's pretty nice. There's a modified Xenia build with mouse support, I used this one to be specific: https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/qppb6d/goldeneye_xbla_with_updated_xenia_canary_mousehook/

[hushed onyx]

It’s kind of a fashion thing that happens from time to time (the ‘90s were infamous for this), just like most overarching tropes of that nature.

[hushed onyx]

Meanwhile, I always look up stuff outside of the game because I want to 100% the game and that’s generally impossible without looking things up; even if you’re very thorough you’ll miss some things.

[slim thorn]

when I do 100% a game I almost always end up looking something up, and usually it's a mix of stuff where the game did try to tell me and I just derped really hard, and other cases where I do think there was a design issue

[hushed onyx]

Or it’s a strategy game of some kind and it’s too complex for you to discover every clever trick or see everything in one playthrough.

[slim thorn]

fair, I don't play strategy unless you count Fire Emblem

[hushed onyx]

Or an RPG with a bespoke class/level system, which makes it hard to figure out what a “good build” looks like without looking up information about character builds.

[slim thorn]

well, that style of RPG I do think is fundamentally flawed as a genre but that's a whole other topic

[hushed onyx]

Or Elite Dangerous, since the game is looking stuff up outside the game

[hushed onyx]

I mean…that’s painting with a broad brush, isn’t it? I’m talking about anything that doesn’t limit you to “warrior/thief/mage” type of complexity, or at least doesn’t have character resets or enough XP/skill points to max “everything”. That’s…a lot of games! I was specifically thinking of Pathfinder: Kingmaker and Shadowrun: Hong Kong, where it’s rather tricky to figure out how to build a character on your own because they’re ports of PnP RPGs that have complicated class systems. At the table you’d have a GM and other players providing this information.

[slim thorn]

oh you're talking tabletop rpgs

[hushed onyx]

Those are cRPGs, they just use a tabletop system.

[slim thorn]

I do mean to paint quite broadly over video game RPGs though; I've played dozens of games with varying levels of RPG elements and every single one I would've enjoyed more with less of them and even RPG fans often agree with my gripes about them so I'm not gonna hide that

[uneven epoch]

i winder if ud like disco elysium ix. ever thought about givin it a try?

[slim thorn]

it's been on my list for a while, I'm sure I'll enjoy it when I'm finally in the mood

[uneven epoch]

fair fair

would love to hear ur thoughts when/if u get to it

[hushed onyx]

Well, I don’t agree that having a complicated class system that you can’t just look at and understand is a bad thing. And if you have one of those you’re probably going to benefit from looking up how the class system works outside of the game so that you don’t have to go through trial and error with it.

Anyway, I was also going to say that sometimes looking that kind of thing up outside of the game can be nice because you get clever ideas that you wouldn’t have thought of yourself. For example, playing a shotgun Infiltrator in Mass Effect.

[slim thorn]

part of the point is that information can be in the game itself, and with good games usually is already; that's nothing novel

[river veldt]

I wanna play it but whenever I try to launch it it just instantly crashes :c

[uneven epoch]

huh

well thats not good :c

[hushed onyx]

I don’t think so, because most of what I’m thinking of is how different skills and abilities interact and (crucially) how good or bad they actually are in the game, which the developers…probably aren’t going to be as aware of as players.

[uneven epoch]

tho i think there was somethin about that hold on

[slim thorn]

well now you're getting into why I think it's a fundamental issue with the genre and not just a few games that forgot to finish their tutorials

which I wasn't trying to get into

[hushed onyx]

I mean, this is a fundamental issue with all games. With first-person shooters, it’s how guns work by themselves and together. With platformers it’s how moves actually feel to perform and how they work together. Etc. etc. Basically, to get a good idea of how the game plays you need to…play the game. And typically there are a lot more people playing the game than developing it.

[minor plover]

This is one of the reasons Overload was such a good Descent sequel, while Descent:Underground fell apart. The Overload devs recognized that they had this very serious player base and then they treated us like we really knew what we were talking about, while the D:U guys tried to "balance" our ideas with ideas from people who had never played 6dof games, so they'd sometimes just totally screw up something critical just because they felt like they had to give the other guys a turn.

[hushed onyx]

Anyway I normally look up information on everything I interact with—books, TV, movies—so looking up how to play a game is not really different or exceptional.

[arctic fern]

playing deadspace in vc

[mossy flume]

Oh right it’s unlocked now

Time to be terrified

[arctic fern]

deadspace is scary? lol

Issac's new face is weird
He's not ugly or anything, and I know it's based on the real va's face, but it's not Issac

[hushed onyx]

Anyway, I actually came here in the first place to ask whether anyone knew of a PC building/price guide. I’m thinking of maybe getting a gaming PC in the next year or two, so I’d like to figure out what a reasonable budget is.

[arctic fern]

a reasonable budget is whatever you're willing to spend

[chilly mural]

do you want your PC to run Crysis 2 at 60 fps while processing a video?

[minor plover]

I just go to https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/ and figure out which one is the best fit for me

[arctic fern]

oof, deadspace remastered might be a bit too heavy for my machine
its not unplayable but frams arent as high as i'd like

[minor plover]

my wife started with the Modest Intel Gaming Build and then got a better PSU, more RAM, and an extra HDD

[arctic fern]

probably should move it to my ssd

[mossy flume]

I assume you’re joking because, yeah, famously so.

Apparently still considered one of the scariest games ever made from what I’m seeing.

[arctic fern]

lol

its creepy and has jumpscares, its more body horror than actually scary tho

good atmosphere and world building

[mossy flume]

It builds on tension, right?

[arctic fern]

true

[mossy flume]

That’s the key

[hushed onyx]

Not really, because I have no idea what anything costs right now because I haven’t been in the PC market for ages.

[arctic fern]

i think 2 did it better, especially that one scene that stuck in my mind with the machine, spike and ||issacs eyeball||

[hushed onyx]

Trying to set a budget upfront without checking what I can actually expect to get for a given budget means it will probably be ludicrously large or absurdly small.

[mossy flume]

I haven’t played it before, but the internet pretty consistently marks it as utterly terrifying.

[minor plover]

in that case, you have to set a usage expectation. What are you trying to run on your PC?

[mossy flume]

Need a bit more info than that. What use case are you targeting?

[hushed onyx]

Not really, because PCPartPicker was actually what I wanted to know about, I just misremembered it as being mostly for a later stage in the process (i.e., you know what you want and are checking that your components are compatible and finding out where to buy them)

[mossy flume]

Ah, fair enough. Yeah, PCPP is a great place to start

Attempting to run the DS Remake on my Deck. Not really expecting it to run well, but trying it out to see what happens anyway. Anyway it has been compiling shaders for a good while now.

[arctic fern]

...why is it cutting off 3/4 of the screen?

[mossy flume]

UI scaling bug? Resolution too high?

That's odd. Is it windowed?

[arctic fern]

borderless

once i changed it to fullscreen and back it functions fine

this was after i restarted the game so i could move it over to my ssd rather than my hdd

[mossy flume]

Finally finished compiling the shaders, although it looks like the SSD I/O may be too slow on the Deck for this to work

[visual hill]

if using a hiDPI display, force the game to be DPI aware by right-clicking its executable, going to Properties > Compatibility and forcing the scaling mode to Application

[arctic fern]

forcing the scaling mode to Application
i have no idea what this means, cant find any options related to scaling

also

instructions unclear, aimed for the family jewls instead

[arctic fern]

ok, so while i strongly disagree with "scariest game of all time," i did forget how well they made the unsettling atmosphere. i can see why folks would get scared of this game
tho i just think its funny
probably because im desensitised to a lot of it

man remember when games did environmental storytelling? you've even got the sign to the bathrooms saying they havent been cleaned in [error] days

[slim thorn]

"scary" is such a personal thing anyway I don't think it ever makes sense to debate which movies or games are scarier than others

it's probably easier to get a consensus on things like Dead Space having a tense atmosphere that makes you feel like you're in constant danger outside of specific points of refuge, like most anything we call "horror" tries to do

[arctic fern]

oh yeah, its got that down to a T

its textbook horror environment

i just find the actual scares to be goofy lol

[slim thorn]

yeah I've heard this take a lot and it's fine

we all agree the game's fun regardless

[mossy flume]

Tension’s what I’m here for, so I’m hype for this.

[mossy flume]

This is what I was coming back here to say, haha

[mossy flume]

This is my general take on a fair amount of horror. Jump scares are cheap and often predictable, so it can come across as annoying more than anything.

The atmospheric tension is the best part, though. Part of why I dig Metroid since it does a mild take on that a fair bit.

[slim thorn]

I'm already reliving the MP1 Phazon Mines

[arctic fern]

fair point

i do want to say that so far this is a marked improvement on the original, however my memory is fzzy on it as i havent been able to play in years. the pc port of dead space 1 was... less than stellar and it felt too clunky to play properly which sucked

[slim thorn]

I don't watch enough horror to have strong opinions on jump scares specifically, but I get that they became a talking point because lazy horror tends to not only do very lazy jumpscares but also do a lot of them

in video games, "jump scares" (whatever we define that as) are a completely different beast since you have to do something about it

and part of the fun becomes trying to anticipate them but not always succeeding

yes, RE2 got me when the licker jumped through the interrogation room window

[river veldt]

fnaf

[uneven epoch]

i get scared easily by jumpscares every time n i dont enjoy it. so i dont touch the horror genre

[slim thorn]

I certainly don't enjoy the FNAF ones

[river veldt]

:C

[uneven epoch]

i get too spooked by fallout enemies sometimes n have to close the game

[river veldt]

no longer friendship with Ix

[arctic fern]

fallout 4 had some really weird survival horror themed sections for some reason

and yeah, fnaf isnt scary, its just jumpscares

[river veldt]

:C

[slim thorn]

still, Mr X punching through the wall right next to you is the perfect kind of game jump scare (in the original and the remake)

[river veldt]

mister xavier

[arctic fern]

haha, an enemy was pretending to be dead on the ground but i new better
i walked straight up to it, it woke up and i just stomped on it 10 times
stun locked and killed him, ezpz

[mossy flume]

FNAF was just really silly and optimized for that YouTuber reaction video thing

[river veldt]

:c

[slim thorn]

in retrospect, it's interesting to me that Dead Space has unlimited melee attacks that are actually effective, while in every Resident Evil the knife is either useless or limited, so preemptively attacking an unmoving body is just common sense in DS but rarely worth it in RE

[arctic fern]

oh the melee attacks are about as effective as the knife in RE

its just if an enemy is already on the ground you can keep him there with stomps

you can do the same in RE4 if i recall, the knife against single targets is enough to keep them stunned

[slim thorn]

right, I mean in RE1-3 either the knife has finite durability, or it does too little damage to help, or it actively wakes up the zombie without stunlocking so you're literally worse off than if you just walked by

oh right, it's been so long since I played RE4

[arctic fern]

generally early game you can save a lot of ammo by shooting in the head once and knifing them

[slim thorn]

stuff I never thought to try

[arctic fern]

its worthless at any point past basically the church tho

i was also playing the wii version of the game, which in my opinion is the best way to play

[slim thorn]

I can't even remember which console I played RE4 on

[arctic fern]

most of the clunkyness of the tank controls and aiming are smoothed over by the fact you can point and shoot with the wii mote making it possible to actually respond to threats in combat

the game is actually playable lol

[slim thorn]

speaking of problems I never had

[river veldt]

i played it on my Switch and it played just fine

[slim thorn]

all right, let's find out how well DS remake runs on my potato

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[mossy flume]

Sad times

DS Remake doesn’t work on Steam Deck

SSD I/O is definitely too constrained among other issues. The game stretches to a halt at certain points and hovers at 0FPS for a few minutes while it tries to load assets. It’s also regularly stuttering. It’s unplayable.

https://www.theverge.com/23572533/dead-space-remake-steam-deck-support-ea-motive

Verge seems to agree

Alas, I don’t have access to anything that can run it until I get back home on Monday.

[slim thorn]

I don't think it's gonna happen on my laptop either

[mossy flume]

Yeah, looks like serious hardware is a hard requirement for this game

The game does warn you immediately that it needs an SSD. It probably specifically needs a Gen2 SSD over PCI to run correctly.

[arctic fern]

yeah my rig was struggling on medium settings when there was 3 enemies in the room

[slim thorn]

welp, back to playing pokemonvania instead

[slim thorn]

wow that's a lot of (de)buffs

[wind stump]

exprosion!

[rugged flax]

https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1619064403466326027?s=20

D&D Beyond (@DnDBeyond)

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1 is now available under a Creative Commons license.🧵 https://t.co/hJTm2Rgruo

Twitter · Jan 27, 2023, 8:06 PM

[green fulcrum]

Hmmmmm...

This is either a strategic move to get the community to back off and cool down before they slowly start to introduce the new stuff again, or they're actually serious.

[arctic fern]

i dont believe them, and even if i did, third party writers would be mad to make new stuff for D&D

[rugged flax]

https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1619064405215379456

D&D Beyond (@DnDBeyond)

Your feedback in the OGL 1.2 survey is already clear and we are acting on it:
-62% are satisfied with adding the SRD to Creative Commons & those dissatisfied want more in CC
-89% are dissatisfied with deauthorizing OGL 1.0a
-88% do not want to publish content under OGL 1.2

Twitter · Jan 27, 2023, 8:06 PM

https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1619064406641414169

D&D Beyond (@DnDBeyond)

Thank you for your continued dedication and love for Dungeons & Dragons. We are sorry for the pain we’ve caused to the community. We look forward to building what comes next with our players and creators.

Twitter · Jan 27, 2023, 8:06 PM

https://www.dndbeyond.com/attachments/39j2li89/SRD5.1-CCBY4.0License.pdf
SRD 5.1 has already been published under an irrevocable Creative Commons license
https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1439-ogl-1-0a-creative-commons

[visual hill]

whoa, CC BY, even

[teal sonnet]

looks very good for me

[visual hill]

I expected it to be CC BY-NC-ND because "a Creative Commons license" is often greenwashing to mean they picked the most restrictive one 🙂

[rugged flax]

nope, CC-BY-4.0

The only less restrictive you can go under CC is to CC0 1.0 Universal, which is basically public domain.

[slim thorn]

wow, apparently my brain is in shovel knight mode today, this took only one try (using one chalice)

[river veldt]

good job!

Tinker Knight is a fun fight

[gaunt marten]

It is the easiest and one of the most fun bosses for me because of the pogo potential

[river veldt]

did you know you can defeat his first phase with the Mobile Gear in one hit

[slim thorn]

nope

[river veldt]

its funny

[gaunt marten]

No

[river veldt]

yea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WgKPamy0CI

check out this low quality video

[slim thorn]

I was expecting the propeller knight stage to be much worse when it opened up with a run of bottomless pits, but I think I only died <5 times getting to the last checkpoint

2nd try, no chalices

apparently after the cannonballs hit, choosing to hang out in the center makes him very easy to pogo because he's got only two positions to move between

[gaunt marten]

Propeller Knight Stage is one of the best designed in the game

[river veldt]

and has the best music

[slim thorn]

I also completely forgot I switched to the Mail of Momentum

that probably helped on this stage

damn, cleared Frigid Flight with no deaths

either I'm in the zone or I've just run out of zone

[gaunt marten]

Both

If I recall correctly, you're in the endgame

[river veldt]

yes he is

[slim thorn]

yeah, only Tower of Fate left

[river veldt]

3 levels left

[gaunt marten]

Plus the refight with the black knight

[slim thorn]

oh I did black night 2 in my last session

[gaunt marten]

Oh good

[slim thorn]

there is one other enemy on the map between me and the tower so that's next anyway

[gaunt marten]

Is it the lightning fencer guy?

[river veldt]

is he beeg or smol or medium

[slim thorn]

ok I'm done double checking NPCs for stuff I can buy/refill

"Phantom Striker"

[river veldt]

yes

[gaunt marten]

That's the one

The last of the Kickstarter bosses

[slim thorn]

and he is really vulnerable to pogos

[river veldt]

i think hes arguably the least important of the Kickstarter bosses in the other campaigns

[thorny loom]

https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-launches-a-new-discovery-hub-dedicated-to-dlc/

[slim thorn]

my presumably very average Shovel Knight stats

[gaunt marten]

Well done

Next you can play NG+, move on to the next campaign of your choice, or check out the bonus modes (challenges, Smash)

[fresh bane]

was it? I wasn't alive in the 90s so I don't know if it was a trend then

I was just watching the charlie video on Forspoken and he seemed to mention how he doesn't understand this trend of making the MC an insufferable prick to everyone around them and he's kind of right obviously not in every media nowadays but, it's certainly a bit of a trend you notice and pick up on

I remember feeling this way with Jill on RE3R and that's kinda why I didn't like her much in that game even though I understand it makes sense to others

I like the original RE3 Jill much better and hey she's the one that actually slaps the shit out of Carlos!

https://tenor.com/view/jill-jill-valentine-resident-evil-resident-evil3-re-gif-16870172

[river veldt]

i could cut myself on these polygons

[fresh bane]

I've seen worse, people probably praised these graphics at the time

[river veldt]

oh yea im not knocking it

it looks better than SM64 hehe

[fresh bane]

https://tenor.com/view/collection-ag-tr3-tomb-raider-tomb-raider-iii-tomb-raider-les-aventures-de-lara-croft-tomb-raider-adventures-of-lara-croft-gif-13302302

I was gonna use Tomb Raider as an example of worse polygons but...

actually it looks way better than I thought it'd look

honestly doesn't look that bad for the time

which reminds me, I should probably play the tomb raider games sometime.... I don't know how I've never touched them

[quiet swift]

The newer trilogy is pretty great

[fresh bane]

I haven't heard much about them, I'm sure they're good, I'm mostly talking about the original trilogy

[river veldt]

bob

[fresh bane]

bob?

[river veldt]

boob

[quiet swift]

The newer trilogy is still a number of years old now. Heck, first one is 2013 (jesus...)

[fresh bane]

oh

[quiet swift]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/203160/Tomb_Raider/ I'm sure you've at least seen these

Steam

Tomb Raider

Tomb Raider explores the intense and gritty origin story of Lara Croft and her ascent from a young woman to a hardened survivor. Armed only with raw instincts and the ability to push beyond the limits of human endurance, Lara must fight to unravel the dark history of a forgotten island to escape its relentless hold. Download the Turning Point t...

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

133327

Metacritic

86

▶ Play video

[fresh bane]

you know, I know people have complained about that stuff from Tomb Raider for a long time, it doesn't seem nearly as bad as people make it sound to be now that I actually look at her in the og games

they are very polygonal though that much was true

the polygons are indeed real

[fresh bane]

Oh yeah I remember the 2013 one

it was everywhere at the time

I remember seeing some of it but not the full thing

I got no idea about the other ones I actually didn't even know any other Tomb Raider games came out

[quiet swift]

It and the next two are in the same vein, they're pretty good

Tomb raider, Rise of, and shadow of

[fresh bane]

ah right, the new ones were going for more of a survival type shit than the classic tomb raider action-y hero

I remember that era of gaming very well

[river veldt]

werent weirdos upset about reboot Lara's design

[fresh bane]

I wouldn't call em weirdos but I don't doubt people always get upset about iconic characters' redesigns

[river veldt]

i think redesigning Lara to not have back issues is perfectly reasonable , but I may be misremmebering and thinking of something else

[fresh bane]

It's really not as drastic as it sounds if you're specifically referring to her bust size, it's actually not really changed that much

she doesn't have that super wasp thin waist though that did change

[river veldt]

yea

[fresh bane]

I do personally have an issue with redesigns that completely take away the charm and identity of the original design, apparently there's a game called Tomb Raider Reloaded that is going to use the classic original design so that's pretty neat

looks pretty cool

[river veldt]

i forgor they put Lara in Fortnite

[fresh bane]

I had this same issue with Jill in RE3R, yes the tank top is blue but I really liked the original design, it had charm, and a lot of people loved it and it's just a very iconic design

[gaunt marten]

Too chibi for me

[fresh bane]

I remember 2013 Lara Croft kind of begun that survival female character with tank top and jeans character design ''''trend'''''

[river veldt]

i dont really remmeber that trend

[fresh bane]

Seems like this trilogy is more of an origin story for her and the last game does give her aspects of that classic outfit

[gaunt marten]

Those are all Laras

[fresh bane]

Looks pretty nice actually

although she doesn't have that long braided hair anymore but I'm guessing maybe she'll get it in a future game, if that comes out anyway

oh right I forgot what I was going to link in here originally

https://youtu.be/ByjulU7ZvG4

[visual hill]

OpenLara is good for the OG games, you can try the demo in a web browser: http://xproger.info/projects/OpenLara/

[fresh bane]

Oh god are we reaching the era were ps1 games are playable on browsers?

[visual hill]

OpenLara runs natively on PC, porting it to HTML5 is quite approachable if you have the source code and a suitable renderer (which it does)

[gaunt marten]

They have been playable in browsers for years

[fresh bane]

[visual hill]

whoops, guess I activated the cheat that makes you swim in the air

(it's bound to O, I was trying to figure out which key opened the menu)

[fresh bane]

[slim thorn]

nice

[fresh bane]

Lara has been tomb raiding so long she's learned how to swim through the atoms in the air

she's a real pro

[slim thorn]

from what I've heard the original Tomb Raiders had some excellent puzzle/action/platforming dungeon levels and also some total BS stuff we wouldn't tolerate these days lol

[fresh bane]

of course, that seems to be the standard for old games

[slim thorn]

so, make sure you have the option of save states

[gaunt marten]

Speaking of puzzle, action and platforming

I'm thinking of La-Mulana 1

[fresh bane]

listen I used save states in RE3 against nemesis I'm totally using them if I play tomb raider

[mossy flume]

One could probably make WebGL emulators these days for just about any console and thus make many things playable in the browser.

[fresh bane]

would I get the authentic experience if I simply reloaded every save file after Nemesis kills me?
Sure, sure I would

am I going to go through that?

..... no

[mossy flume]

Kinda surprised that I haven't seen much of anything in that regard now that you mention it

[rancid herald]

save scrum until your nemesis spawns as a shiny

[fresh bane]

shiny ourple nemesis

[slim thorn]

the other day I watched an opinion piece about Elden Ring from a Fromsoft veteran, where the guy explained how they spent 20+ hours over 2 days just to beat Malenia once (on a blind playthrough, without looking up meta builds), and then said "maybe we've finally reached 'too hard'"

[fresh bane]

and then you get the other side of things where players are like ''psshhh Malenia was easy dude''

It's really hard to come to a general consensus on these things when stuff like this happens

[slim thorn]

one of their claims was that seemingly everyone who said that had looked up a meta build within the first couple tries lol

[fresh bane]

new player: ''wow I just beat bloodborne this game was suuper hard but I loved it''

fromsoft player: ''erm, cringe, actually, bloodborne is super easy lol''

[slim thorn]

but to me the funny part is that 20+ hours on a single boss is considered "maybe" too hard

[sacred grove]

Probably because having emulators run in a browser is most useful when being presented as a service, which is not desired by most people who run emulators. People mostly run it either on their desktop, or for a living room display, or on a portable PC (Deck)

[slim thorn]

that's more time than I spend on most whole games

[river veldt]

is malenia the one that was infamously hard

[fresh bane]

Yeah.... well

Malenia is a super optional fight so...

I guess you can't complain too much about her being hard?

[slim thorn]

I mean, of course you can complain about optional content sucking

at the end of the day the entire game is optional, I'm just gonna not play it if it sucks

[gaunt marten]

I can complain about anything

[fresh bane]

Well it doesn't suck

[slim thorn]

anyway I wasn't trying to argue that

since obv I have no direct experience with that specific example

[fresh bane]

but listen if Jerma was able to defeat Malenia while making a bit about being a 1920s radio host

anyone can

complete with a black and white filter and silly music

[slim thorn]

I think Jerma was in their list of people using meta builds lol

[fresh bane]

ah, I wouldn't know about meta builds honestly

but it is true that a lot of players pretty much just wait or look everything up

honestly it's probably the same as the players that say ''man that was easy''

[river veldt]

Jerma is a fucking clown man

i adore him

[slim thorn]

I mean if you want I can just link the video

[river veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF1mSl3sR9Q

[slim thorn]

I was only intending to provide a complementary amusing example of enduring absurd levels of redundant content replaying

[fresh bane]

GIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIMEGIME
EEEYUYUYUYUYYUYUYUUYYUUYUYUYUYUYUYUYUYYUYUYU AAAHAH AAH THEY'RE SUCKING ME UP

[river veldt]

and then he worries his ween is out

very Jerma

[fresh bane]

other streamers: OH GOD I JUST BEAT HER YEEES LET'S GOOOO

Jerma: oh fuck is my weiner out?

career ending stream

But to answer your question Ixrec Fromsoft fans seem to overall agree that Elden Ring is pretty hard even for Fromsoft 'veterans'

However, it's also probably got a lot of ways you can mitigate that difficulty

So it's very hard to say

[visual hill]

there are companies doing that (including online play), like Piepacker… the story behind those is often controversial, as they tend to take from open source emulators without respecting the license

[fresh bane]

Although I, personally speaking, would tell any new Fromsoft player to definitely use a guide because while I probably would be able to find some shit on my own having played these games multiple times I understand how a new player would feel

for me there's literally no shame in using a guide for a franchise of games infamous for having very obscure requirements for finding shit or being extremely obtuse and vague about the details it gives you

[slim thorn]

well another part of that video's complaint was that the difficulty seemed to swing from way too high to way too low because of the whole open world thing and them not knowing the intended order, which goes back to the are we meant to just look everything up now issue

but again I'm just the messenger citing something I thought was amusing

[fresh bane]

But hey, if you ever complain about that you'll have all the fromsoft fans telling you you're just a scrub that wants everything given to them and to go back to playing nintendo games

[slim thorn]

or I can just keep not playing any of those games

[fresh bane]

You could but you'd be depriving yourself of an extremely cool world and game

[slim thorn]

(though again, maybe I'll try an easy mode mod of Sekiro someday,)

you are aware I already tried two of them, right?

[gaunt marten]

The problem is not in difficulty. It's in accessibility.

[fresh bane]

I can't remember which ones

[slim thorn]

Dark Souls 1 and Sekiro

[fresh bane]

I know I never finished Sekiro, it's a pretty hard game all things considered

You should try DS3

I hear it's probably the most accessible new player friendly Dark Souls

[slim thorn]

I mean I've gone over my issues with Fromsoft games so many times I kinda figured everyone was sick of hearing about it by now

[fresh bane]

and I've also gone on record defending Fromsoft's game design before as well

[slim thorn]

I had zero intention of going down the rabbit hole again today

[fresh bane]

I guess I'll just say that while sometimes a game can definitely be too hard, I also think a lot of times it has to do with players either being completely new to this type of game or very inexperienced overall

Because I'm very good at games like DMC and survival horror, but I know that a lot of people would find these games to be extremely difficult or tedious or something like that

So I think that's something to take into consideration, because I also suck at Fromsoft games

[slim thorn]

and now you're recappinig the "why I tried more than one" part of the story

[hidden elbow]

I say my favorite fromsoft game is first dark souls

[fresh bane]

Yeah same

DS1 is perfect to me

but again Ix if you want to take a gander at DS3 I hear it's the most accessible one

It's a lot of people's favourite and I hear it has pretty cool boss fights

don't... go online though...

[slim thorn]

well now that we've ended up here anyway

please do explain exactly how DS3 is "more accessible" than either DS1 or Sekiro

[fresh bane]

Oh I have no clue I never played DS3

[slim thorn]

[fresh bane]

It's just something I keep hearing everytime it comes up

It's a very common take in the community I've come across throughout the years

[slim thorn]

well then I'm gonna stick to all the circumstancial evidence that convinces me it's not in any of the ways that would actually solve my problems with the subgenre

[gaunt marten]

Okay uh

[fickle garnet]

Oh I'm playing ds3 currently

[gaunt marten]

Dark Souls 3 has teleportation between bonfires unlocked from the start, and it's a linear experience where it's harder to get lost.

[fickle garnet]

Yeah that's true

[gaunt marten]

It's not gonna solve all your problems with the genre

[fresh bane]

Yep

[gaunt marten]

But it is more accessible

Also, the game plays faster than DS1

[fresh bane]

So if you have problems with the core design of these games, probably still not for you, but DS3 is more beginner friendly in some ways

[gaunt marten]

Enemies and the player both move faster, giving you a more action oriented gameplay and less deliberation

[fresh bane]

The more linear design will help with not getting lost and knowing where to go essentially

[slim thorn]

to be clear, I never doubted that it was in some ways, just not the ways that would've mattered to me

(you can't go 10 seconds on this topic without everyone assuming you said something you never implied)

[fresh bane]

Oh no we're just saying that it's more beginner friendly, but if you still have some issues with the core of these games then yes

probably you'd be right

[hidden elbow]

Ds2 on the other hand is........weird

[fresh bane]

let's not get into DS2 /s

[river veldt]

i may try out DS3 or Bloodborne sometime if they're any different from DS1 which i hated

[fresh bane]

[fickle garnet]

They are

They're faster

[fresh bane]

I legitimately cannot stand DS2 from a very personal perspective even though I came close to finishing the vanilla game like 2 or 3 times

on different characters' playthroughs

[fickle garnet]

Although you'll need a ps4 for blooborne

Or ps5

[fresh bane]

I honestly think that being faster is detrimental to DS3 but again I never played it

[gaunt marten]

Or I can emulate it

[fresh bane]

I think they took too many cues from Bloodborne

[fickle garnet]

As it's a ps exclusive

[gaunt marten]

You should play it

[fresh bane]

The only thing I played from DS3 was the first boss which I surprisingly nailed on my first try which was pretty neat

But it never ran super well on my pc so I just uninstalled

[fickle garnet]

Ds3 is good

[river veldt]

I like Bloodborne's theming a lot, Lovecraftian England is cool

[fickle garnet]

Bloodborne also rewards aggression

[fresh bane]

I think you mean Victorian England

[river veldt]

I said what I said

[slim thorn]

I suspect Cap meant both

[fickle garnet]

Because it gives you health back if you hit enemies after you got hit

[fresh bane]

I hear you have to farm the healing items?

[fickle garnet]

Yeah you do

[river veldt]

yea I did

[fresh bane]

it's not like estus where it recharges you actually have to get them

so you can totally just run out of healing items

[fickle garnet]

That's the one thing I don't like about bloodborne

[hidden elbow]

Ds 2 just fondumentally doesnt understand what made ds 1 special

[river veldt]

Bloodborne seems to be the only video game that nails cosmic horror compared to something like Call of Cthulhu or The Sinking City

several people are typing

[fresh bane]

My general opinion in these games is that if Jerma and PeachSaliva are able to not only get through these games but also nail them and both having Bloodborne as their all time favourite
Probably anyone can play them

[grim stirrup]

hear me out, i am resident ds2 defender

[gaunt marten]

DS2 is better than DS1 in terms of having a well balanced arsenal of weapons and spells

[hidden elbow]

I especially hate when they just put a horde of enemies in one room and call it "boss"

[fickle garnet]

I don't have an opinion on ds2

I haven't played it

[river veldt]

doesnt DS2 have mushroom men

[fresh bane]

I don't know about weapon and spell balancing honestly, but DS2 just always felt weird to me and I never liked it

DS1 has mushroom people

[gaunt marten]

DS1 has mushroom men

[river veldt]

oh ok

[grim stirrup]

do i have bad news about elden ring

[river veldt]

[fresh bane]

The world never felt as charming to me like DS1's, the combat felt super weird floaty and it never felt satisfying, I also got hit by a lot of bullshit things and the game forces you to play the way IT wants you to play

[river veldt]

?????

Toad????

[fresh bane]

I have come across multiple characters that just literally lock onto you automatically or never stop attacking

[slim thorn]

Hollow Knight has a better mushroom man

[river veldt]

holy shit I love them

[hidden elbow]

Ds 2 is not a bad game but its a bad sequel

[fresh bane]

No DS2 is a bad game

[river veldt]

show???

[fresh bane]

Probably not the worst game, but I think it's an okay game

I always disliked the whole ''oh it's a bad souls but not a bad game!''

[river veldt]

does Dark Souls 2 have Yoda

[slim thorn]

https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Mister_Mushroom

[river veldt]

holy shit I love him

[random steppe]

I would say it's a good game, just not as good as the other Souls

[gaunt marten]

You're a bad game

[river veldt]

look at his nose omg

[fresh bane]

I would say it's perfectly okay

[river veldt]

im obsessed

[fresh bane]

It's not the worst thing in the world but I'm not going to be aching to replay it

[river veldt]

Gen why did you never tell me about Mister Mushroom

[grim stirrup]

ds2 is my fav Ds game, it fundamentally hits fighting through a decaying workd than ds1

[random steppe]

Actually, you are right, I should have told you, given your Mario obsession appreciation

My apologies

[river veldt]

you are forgiven

[fresh bane]

I hear a lot of people say that DS2's DLC is actually really good and I feel like it's the same thing as a One Piece watcher telling you it gets really good at chapter 348
If the best thing you have to say about the game is the DLC, the game is probably not that good

[river veldt]

and it is an obsession

[slim thorn]

we've gotten too good at guessing what Cap will react positively to

[random steppe]

The DS2 DLC is good if you ignore the multiplayer areas

The multiplayer areas are the worst part in any souls game I ever played

And not only the from software ones

[river veldt]

you said this like im some sort of creature in containment

[random steppe]

Even the clones

[hidden elbow]

I dont like how it reuses boss fights from ds1 like ornstein and......just ornstein

[fresh bane]

That's a bit more subjective I guess, I always hear DS2 has the best PVP since it's one of the only games that doesn't resort to bullshit backstab chains or something like that

you actually have to strategize and fight so that's neat

oh DS2's bosses are my least favourite part

I legitimately cannot think of a single boss fight I liked out of that game

[hidden elbow]

That is a real bummer to me since ornstein and smough battle was probably my favorite moment of ds 1

[fresh bane]

Probably the one from the Heide Tower and that's only because the fight is completely trivial if you pull the levers to lower the platforms so he just literally yeets himself off the platform

[random steppe]

I revaluated the bosses in DS2 overtime, I intiially thought "it's all dudes in armor, that's boring" but then, I trascended and realised that dudes in armor is the best kind of bosses in a souls game

[gaunt marten]

It has the best PVP because of the balance

[fresh bane]

I mean

the demon boss fights are cool...

[hidden elbow]

Mirror knight was kinda cool

[fresh bane]

Oh yeah, that guy

yeah that was alright

[random steppe]

DS2 on release, and actually later from release, had a bug

[river veldt]

who is the funny doggo

[random steppe]

The sound was all well balanced, except one specific sound

[fresh bane]

Actually DS1 has loads of great boss fights that aren't dudes in armor

[random steppe]

The mirror knight thunder sound when he does the thunder attack with his sword

[fresh bane]

Sanctuary Guardian is hyyyyyype

Bell Gargoyles are scrub filters

[random steppe]

That sound was fixed, no matter if lowered the sound, it stayed at the same level

[fresh bane]

Four Kings is fucking scary

[random steppe]

So...usually I lower the sound ingame but keep my system sound relatively high

I get to the mirror knight, he does the fucking thunder attack, and I am pretty sure it almost blown my eardrums

[fresh bane]

Hey that's pretty immersive

it's realistic

[random steppe]

Yeah, I felt that thunder in my fucking bones

[hidden elbow]

Mirror knight : FLASHBANG

[river veldt]

could you make a Mario build in Dark Souls

[random steppe]

https://youtu.be/YAWTLTE-1mk?t=55 this one

Fuck that sound

I'll always remember it

[gaunt marten]

Looking Glass Knight is so cool but the special mechanic where it summons invaders never worked for me

[hidden elbow]

Ds 2 also loves just put a bunch of weak enemies and call it a boss

[random steppe]

Probably a pyromancer one that uses fireballs I assume.
You can't kill enemies by jumping on their head so I am not sure what kind of weapon he should those tho.

[river veldt]

are there hammers

[slim thorn]

[random steppe]

Very few but yeah

[gaunt marten]

This fight is one of the weak points of the game, but since it's easy it's not a big deal

[river veldt]

cuz in the RPGs he uses a hammer

[gaunt marten]

Does a club count as a hammer?

Because if so, Mario is part of the great great club club

[random steppe]

All the hammers in DS1 are either blacksmits hammers (so you'd have to kill one of them to get it) or Smough hammer that just doesn't feel right for Mario

Also they are all bad, but you are not making a themed build to play good weapons

[river veldt]

lol

[random steppe]

Elden Ring has a bit more variety

Ok so, in Elden Ring, I have this suggestion: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Cranial+Vessel+Candlestand
It looks like a plunger, perfect weapon for a plumber if you ask me

[grim stirrup]

did you ever play ng+, inot exclusive to memory, but youd have been more likely to hit invades

[gaunt marten]

Yes

[fresh bane]

DS2 also loves to put a million enemies in one area and call it a level

oh wait that's all levels in DS2

[gaunt marten]

I played DS2 many times and I never got a single human invader

[river veldt]

if i ever get a machine that's capable of running Elden Ring I may try it out

[gaunt marten]

At least, not in the looking glass knight fight

I got them all the time when I wasn't expecting any

[river veldt]

why was there no Switch port for Elden Ring /j

[fresh bane]

oops

[grim stirrup]

i never got looking glass either, plenty throughout the game though

[hidden elbow]

Okay let me be honest

I. HATE. IRON. KEEP.

[fresh bane]

''oh okay so there's a bunch of strong enemies in this area, I will have to strategize, let's lure them in one by one...''

[takes one step]
[alerts every enemy in the tri-state area]

[gaunt marten]

Iron Keep was very annoying the first time around

But in later playthroughs it became a lot more fun

[fresh bane]

the guards in the iron keep have the longest vision cones in existence and they're already pretty dificult enemies to 1v1 imagine 1v3ing that shit

[gaunt marten]

DS2 benefits a lot from crossbows and binoculars to attract enemies one by one

[hidden elbow]

I really dont like that attract enemies one by one

Yeah ds 1 did that too......and it sucked

[gaunt marten]

Well it is one of the best ways to manage threats. You don't have to do it if you don't enjoy it, but you'll run into higher difficulty because now you're forced to deal with all the enemies at once

[fresh bane]

ironically the most un-fun area in DS1 is the one that is the closest to DS2, the undead burg parts where there's like 3 undead in every fucking area and at least one of them has a crossbow

so you have to deal with 2+ people trying to kill you with one of them trying to kill you too but from far away

or chucking firebombs at you

and despite me getting better and better at going through that area in multiple playthroughs, it's never fun

[gaunt marten]

Makes no sense to me how they made it the first zone

[fresh bane]

the only area with multiple enemies I actually find loads of fun is the church with all the little fodder undead that die in like one hit

[grim stirrup]

there are very few areas tou dont have a bunch of options to deal with all the enemies

[fresh bane]

it's super satisfying to see them running at you and just doing a biiiig sweep and getting every single one of them

[slim thorn]

huh, the burg is almost the only area I did play and I didn't have a problem with that stuff

is it possible to not have a shield when you get there? I could see that making the crossbows awful

[fresh bane]

If you choose a class without a shield

[slim thorn]

ah right

[hidden elbow]

Looking at you Lost Izalith

[gaunt marten]

Undead Burg is fine, but it is pretty frustrating

Especially the part where you have to cross a narrow bridge after the first bonfire

Or the part where you run into the black knight

[slim thorn]

I don't think I met the black knight, but I think I remember the bridge you mean

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

It's a diagonal bridge with no railings where two hollows throw fire bombs at you

[fresh bane]

black knights are ironically hard at first but to an experienced player they're just like regular enemies

the easiest parry practice ever

[gaunt marten]

And at the other end of the edge three hollows block the way and gang up on you

[fresh bane]

also you can totally lock them in a backstab chain

not true! it has railings

[gaunt marten]

Oh, I must be misremembering

[fresh bane]

you cannot fall off that bridge

.... it still doesn't make it easy or better

[slim thorn]

yeah I neve fell off of it

I did quickly learn not to rush into the room without checking where those enemies were and deciding whether to bait one or two out first

[fresh bane]

what I always do in that scenario is step out the bonfire, kill all the guys on the right of the bonfire, then lure the undead with a shield, kill him, go in, kill the other two, go up to the fuckers chucking bombs, murk em, go down, get the other two with shields down the road

and then die at the undead that throws a barrel on fire at you

[slim thorn]

at the time I assumed this was the game actually living up to that whole "hard but fair, git gud by learning from your deaths" thing

[fresh bane]

This was probably much better at the games' peak during their most active years but player messages can sometimes be very helpful

there's probably less messages in the DS games nowadays since there's less players

[slim thorn]

oh I gave up on reading the messages so fast lol

[gaunt marten]

https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Dark-Souls/udb_blackknight.jpg

The black knight is a great optional threat

As a new player it will fucking destroy you

But after you learn how to parry using the silver knights much farther in the game, black knights become trivial

[fresh bane]

black knights quickly become the most non threatening enemy once you either learn how to parry them or lock them in backstabs

[slim thorn]

(I did not get that far, but I did parry silver knights a few times, or at least enough to realize I suck at parrying)

[fresh bane]

it's hard to parry other enemies but the black/silver knights are perfect for practicing

[gaunt marten]

You reached Silver Knights?

Probably not

[slim thorn]

oh were those not silver

uh

[gaunt marten]

Silver Knights look nearly identical to Black Knights and are reached in the second half of the game

They are weaker, allowing you to practice on them

But otherwise their animations are the exact same

[slim thorn]

Balder Knight, that's what I'm thinking of

[gaunt marten]

Balder Knights are tricky to parry

They're kinda fun and unique, with fast lunging attacks.

[fresh bane]

balder knights are pretty tricky since they use thrusting attacks

[gaunt marten]

They apply a lot of pressure and force you to handle them first in group fights

Which is why you can't enter the chapel at the end of undead burg through the front door

[slim thorn]

right, that's why I still remember them

[gaunt marten]

They're pretty annoying so I'm glad they don't have a lot of them in the game

[slim thorn]

well, every time I respawned and had to deal with the same ones again, that was annoying

but I liked them the first time around

[gaunt marten]

You can avoid all of them but one on respawns

The one on the stairs going up to the gargoyles

[slim thorn]

I probably mostly did that

[gaunt marten]

My preferred way of dealing with that one is to wait until it lunges then kill it in one consecutive string of attacks

[slim thorn]

that does sound familiar

[gaunt marten]

Other people like to deal with the runback to bosses by simply avoiding all enemies and running there as fast as possible

[fresh bane]

well titanfall 2 is fun

I remember why I stopped playing FPS games, my brain can't handle the bursts of dopamine, I get too into it and I can play a million games in a night

[weak river]

Glad it's working out for you.

[fresh bane]

It's not all that surprising considering I thoroughly enjoyed playing Apex

Funnily enough TF2 runs better than Apex

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-titanfall2-titanfall-bread-cooper-jack-cooper-gif-24660089

oh shit it has a caption

I was going to say, I didn't expect the Titans to be... cute?

I think it's really cute how they just yoink the Pilot and just plop em right in

[gaunt marten]

It's "sustenance"

[fresh bane]

Uhh no

it's bread

🍞

[icy crescent]

anyone playing DSR with keyboard & mouse? cause im having a problem

[fresh bane]

I have played DS1 with a K&M

not DSR

but what's the problem

[icy crescent]

im stuck on aim and cant do other action

like stomping or sprinting

[rancid herald]

it's too bad Titanfall has kind of died

it was neat

I like vehicles that talk back

[fresh bane]

Seems pretty alive at least on my server

[fresh bane]

uhhh, that's weird, have you already searched up that and seeing if you get any related threads on any forum?

[icy crescent]

yeah they said i need to unplug my hardware

[mossy flume]

Yeah. We don’t get enough giant mech games.

[fresh bane]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-come-on-come-enter-embark-gif-5987582

get in the giant mech, pilot

[rancid herald]

Mechwarrior is good, but it feels like Battletech is trapped in the pre-clan invansion era and refuses to move on from it... and the technology feels super dated

[gaunt marten]

"Baby! Get in my belly!"

[rancid herald]

like, I get the whole 'oh war destroyed everything' and shit, but like, ya'll using 20 ton scout mechs instead of like... drones.

Obviously the retrotech has a lot of appeal to the actual player base though, so alas

[hasty patio]

I don't think it feels trapped like that. The issue is that you can't get the Clan invasions off without there being a balance that makes the story happen and have player enjoyment feel good on both sides of that struggle.

[rancid herald]

I've heard that before, but tbh I don't really buy it. I think you could easily balance the clans and the inner sphere so they're more even, while preserving the general plot of the invasion on the grounds that the inner sphere is just so fractured that a 'single' 'unified' force-- particularly one that's an out-of-context threat-- could recreate the substance of the plot, if not the general 'curb stompness' of it

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/inU20E2e6LA

Well!

I picked a great time to start watching the mighty nein campaign it seems

[icy crescent]

i can't believe my 1660super can run DSR in ultra mode

[icy crescent]

should've installed the game on SSD the first time

[hidden elbow]

https://youtu.be/_7owUVtol3s

I literally got goosebumps from this

[thorny loom]

Figured i share this but if you wanna vote for next creatures in ark here you go. https://app.rankedvote.co/elections/29551/ARK-Creature-Vote/30827/vote its ranked choice

[hidden elbow]

https://vxtwitter.com/jaklub_/status/1619088763724120071

[low flume]

Hell yeah, machine homing daggers

[quiet swift]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nintendo-brings-back-rare-pokemon-card-23-years-later-after-famous-magician-drops-lawsuit-i-was-a-fool

[river veldt]

haha

[mossy flume]

I’m amazed that was still happening

I remember when that started

[quiet swift]

[grave tide]

Decided finally finish all campaigns in AoE 3 Definitive Edition

Game is good even after so many years

Now I will have War Chiefs campaign

[wind stump]

After 3000 years!

well more like 20 hours

[cedar badge]

It's recommended you remap your joycons and use one of the 2.x control schemes to play Goldeneye on the NSO.

[wind stump]

Man this game looks familiar.
I doubt there will be as much... Tower toppling?
Building busting?
gah, can't remember the name...

11/10

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

lmao

[dire gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpXnjCt0hw

[rugged flax]

https://www.gamesradar.com/mmo-community-stunned-as-player-cashes-in-8-years-of-grinding-to-set-an-untouchable-record-in-just-60-seconds/

[mossy flume]

I fear this man’s power

[hushed onyx]

My proposal is simply to invert the settings: the “Clans” (actually just the Pentagon Worlds etc.) are divided, poor, and using archaic tech, while the Inner Sphere is…well, also divided, but rich and highly advanced. The “Clan” invasions are actually the IS (or some IS faction) invading, not for ideological reasons but because they want the resources in the area.

Also, @fresh bane, what you’re looking for is the “‘90s Antihero”. That’s basically exactly “the protagonist is a dick”.

[fresh bane]

Nah nothing like that at all

antiheros who are dicks are at least charming in a way

also an antihero being a bit of a dick makes sense if you already portray the character as being a loner or having issues

[slim thorn]

I think you're both right, in that general 90s edginess is a big reason this became more popular

[fresh bane]

I'm talking about trying to portray your main character as a sympathetic character and the hero of your story while simultaneously making them insufferable and an asshole to everyone around them for no reason

[slim thorn]

but antiheros don't need to be charming, they can be total dicks who choose to complete the quest/beat the bad guy/save the day for whatever reason

tbf the charming kind is probably more marketable

[dull walrus]

Roblox doors

[fresh bane]

I'm not talking about a deliberate choice like making a character an antihero who is meant to be unlikeable in a way or something, or a character that starts an asshole and learns throughout the game, I'm talking about writers just making the main character generally unlikeable and an asshole despite clearly trying to portray them as the hero of the story and in a good light

[slim thorn]

we might need a concrete example to figure out if we're talking about something substantial or just using different words for the same thing

[fresh bane]

Well I don't have any examples off the top of my head especially a day after I made that comment but this was all sparked by the MC from Forspoken who just starts being a bit of an asshole and harsh for no reason

mostly with those little sarcastic witty quips that aren't really funny it just makes the mc seem like an asshole

[slim thorn]

that's right, I remember that now

(I don't have any examples myself)

[fresh bane]

I could say RE3 Jill but I don't hate that Jill I just dislike that she was a bit of a bitch

I'd mention Cap Marvel because I remember almost no one really liking her character but I only really saw clips of that film and not the entire thing so I don't wanna say anything about it since I didn't watch it, I only remember seeing some clips and disliking the MC so I never wanted to really watch that movie

I'd also similarly mention Velma but unlike the rest of the world that thrives off of hate-watching since I did not like that show from the get go I haven't even seen it either

[slim thorn]

I also liked Captain Marvel and felt that whole discourse was a case of "the internet decided it hated X" so yeah not a good example

[fresh bane]

even the boys at RLM didn't really like that movie, but again I don't wanna comment on it since I didn't see it and it'd be stupid of me to have an opinion on something I don't know anything about

Ellie from TLOU is kinda like this but in the good way because you actually like Ellie and she's a charming character that you grow to love, her aggression also makes total sense and it's not gratuitous

[slim thorn]

(though the generic regurgitated complaint was mostly Cap being stiff or "wooden" or whatever, and maybe the acting wasn't the greatest, but she starts out as a soldier in a militaristic space empire explicitly telling her to shut up and stay focused, so I'm pretty sure people were also overreacting to the fact that she's just trying to be professional in the first act )

[fresh bane]

She's not being a bitch or an asshole just because it almost always has a purpose with the character(s) she's bouncing off of or fighting

[slim thorn]

it's weird how we've all seen the asshole protagonist but it's super hard to come up with an example that isn't a "well that doesn't count because-"

"for no reason" certainly doesn't apply to any of the names that come to my mind (which for some reason right now are old movies: Rebel Without a Cause, Citizen Kane)

[river veldt]

uhhhh

i cant think of a video game that ive played where i hated the main character

[slim thorn]

I guess with video games the usual problem is the main character failing to register as a character at all

[static bluff]

Revan during the dark side route

[river veldt]

you can be a dick in Skyrim i guess

like

Mario is very nice and cheerful and he's like the main guy

[hushed onyx]

I’m not sure that really counts because it’s the player actively choosing to be a dick rather than the game making the MC a dick.

(On that note, I’ve started playing ME: Andromeda. So far so good, but I’ve heard that the start is the best part)

[static bluff]

oh okay.

[fresh bane]

Just started watching a streamer play through Hi-Fi Rush and holy shit this game is so fucking cool from the very beginning

from the get go

[fresh bane]

bro this game has a robo cat awesome

Kamiya in shambles, Bayonetta who?

[fresh bane]

this fucking cat is so cute y'all

[craggy vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpdfED3fYw

[visual hill]

emulation and source ports largely carry macOS gaming, I am super thankful to them

otherwise I'd be playing Lichess all day if I was stuck on macOS 🙂

[gaunt marten]

Steam now allows you to put your steam replay from last year in your profile page

https://i.imgur.com/MheoifY.png

Clicking it takes you to the full replay page

[quiet swift]

[wind stump]

lmao
the kappa ripping off the Lunar Capitals property and you get a card to help deal with them by stunning them

also bnuuy

[wind stump]

Oh good
My favourite Touhou character playable in this game is the Fucking Watcher from StS proper.

what did i do to deserve this torment

[wind stump]

Bruh I fused all my personas to get this worth it baybee

[grave tide]

https://youtu.be/V7rUKzctlU4

[craggy vine]

Yeah. I am happy MacOS gaming is becoming more of a thing. Especially with Apple trying to push for it.

[grave tide]

MacOS has one trouble

Cash or cashless

Choose wisely

[sonic dune]

I saw this on a question on the RDO reddit

It applies to just about anything you could have an issue with

The original question was "why are guns in races a thing?"
Because you can shoot other players in horse races
Because appearently horse races are just another word for free-for-all pvp

[random steppe]

Oh, I played the 1st level of this, this game is so fucking good

And it's on game pass

I am mid at action games, and awful at rythm games, but this games just feels good to play no matter what

Wanted to get to the 1st boss because people said they are kind of the best part of the game and man that was a lot of fun, will definitely continue

[teal sonnet]

Hi

this is my review of forespoken

please spend the money on Hi-Fi Rush instead.

[random steppe]

Why would you buy this?

[rugged flax]

you can always buy the $2000 game on Steam
https://gamerant.com/most-expensive-steam-games-hidden-and-unknown-price/

that turns out to have an 8 minute long Men's Rights rant that is unskippable
https://kotaku.com/steam-2000-dollar-pc-game-hidden-unknown-mens-rights-1850036043

[sacred grove]

Oh yeah, this thing. It's not just bad, it's... offensive

[teal sonnet]

they really released a tech demo as a game

as a full price game

[sacred grove]

Like, forget anything about its gameplay or technical merits (or lack thereof), it's garbage because the author is garbage and have injected their garbage views into it, which is about as much detail as I can get into here

[rugged flax]

bless whoever spent $2k on it to find out for the internet
i hope they were able to get a refund

absolute garbage

[gaunt marten]

The refund window is two hours and fourteen days

With a little bit of leeway if you have a good reason

[teal sonnet]

I do like steam refund policy

[gaunt marten]

So it's very likely they got the game and refunded it

[teal sonnet]

but I do think can get a bit outdated with how big games are getting

[gaunt marten]

Games have always been very long since before Steam

I agree that only two hours isn't enough to actual find out if you like some games

[rugged flax]

i've had games where you're still in the tutorial after 2 hours

[teal sonnet]

but same time you need to balance so a little indie game don't get fucked

maybe tie the refund time to price?

[random steppe]

It's mostly meant to see if the game plays well on your hardware and if you like where is it going.
If it's just bad for other reasons that's on you to read reviews and informing yourself before buying.

[teal sonnet]

good point

[gaunt marten]

They just allow the support representatives to break the two hour rule

[random steppe]

The only problem, is when a game has to download an update, and uses a launcher to do it

Since that's going to count down on your timer

[rugged flax]

Elite

Warframe

[random steppe]

And could take a lot if you have a slower connection

Warframe is free so you can't refound it anyway

Elite is definitely one of the affected

Even tho the base game at this point, you find like a 5 bucks when it's ona deep sale

[gaunt marten]

Just get Elite Dangerous as a gift so you won't need to refund it

[teal sonnet]

now about a good time

good lord I am loving hi-fi rush

[random steppe]

It's truly an exceptional game

[teal sonnet]

you can simply feel the devs loved working on that game

[hushed onyx]

I've been continuing to play Andromeda (also a game that takes more than 2 hours to figure out, but I paid $6 for it sooooooo...). I actually started over today and played through basically the whole prologue (the intro segment, the tutorial mission, the Nexus intro) plus some of the earliest quests and exploration. All in all solid progress. I'm not in love with my Ryder's face, though. At least there's an in-game redesign option, that even thoughtfully gives you the opportunity to redesign your twin sibling, too.

Too bad you can't swap gender (I've had a hard time deciding whether to play as Scott or Sara), but that would probably mess things up too much because of romances and what not.

[slim thorn]

I've been mostly playing games in my comfort zone for a while, and now I've gotten the polar opposite urge and picked up Planescape Torment on sale

currently reading a gamefaq to prepare myself lol

[visual hill]

I got an ego check when I realized Bunker 2 in GoldenEye was too hard for me on 00 Agent, even with keyboard + mouse. Had to complete it on Secret Agent, where it was almost too easy

I did manage it last year on 1964GEPD but I used a ton of savestates, and Xenia doesn't have working savestates (I'm playing the XBLA version)

I tried every approach I could, and memorized the path I need to take the best I could

[heady bridge]

Unlocking the cheat in Facility though, that basically comes down to WHERE ARE YOU DOAK!!!!

[visual hill]

heh, I died one meter away from the exit on my first Facility playthrough

[heady bridge]

The game still holds up a surprising amount of challenge even after 25+ years

[slim thorn]

Identify
Allows the caster to determine the properties of an unidentified magic item.

Remarks
Since the Charm of Infinite Recall is bugged, this is more-or-less essential until such time as you can recruit Grace.

I'm already in the habit now of always reading a guide before playing a traditional RPG, but wow

[gaunt marten]

Planescape: Torment

Just play DnD

[slim thorn]

well yeah this isn't why I'm playing it

[gaunt marten]

No, no, if you play DnD it'll be easier to draw parallels

Making it less important to read a guide

[hushed onyx]

On that note, I already know who I’m going to pursue romantically: Vetra. Easy choice…

[gaunt marten]

What I'm saying is join my DnD game. We need a fourth player

We're really down bad on the inquisitive explorer sort of character. All three players prefer to take the back line

[slim thorn]

sorry

[gaunt marten]

No problem

[quartz pawn]

someone drew this on a whiteboard in my school earlier today. Should I call Clarke?

[quiet swift]

[quartz pawn]

….I’ll grab a plasma cutter just to be safe

[wind stump]

bonk

[untold vigil]

[rugged flax]

ATS next state is announced - Kansas!
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/american-truck-simulator-dlc-will-head-to-kansas-after-oklahoma

[static bluff]

1 polygon for the entire trail

[slim thorn]

I just finished work so if you're free now's the time to stop me from starting Planescape

[rugged flax]

Oh man, they're getting close to Missouri.
Really looking forward to seeing how SCS recreates Missouri.

[untold vigil]

I wish but no

Unless you want to play something for exactly one hour

[slim thorn]

nah

I mean we could probably finish RE0 in that time but I'd rather go from that into PoR

[untold vigil]

Yeah I figured

sorry today is a disaster and I think I'd rather play Engage for a bit

[slim thorn]

np

[wind stump]

Mood lass.
Mood.

[slim thorn]

I'm already liking the floating skull companion

[gaunt marten]

Is this even legal? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1722254994

This streamer, Keizaron, is taking a vacation and just got someone else to do his stream and play the same games he does

Welcome to Tyrant's Impromptu Takeover Stream weekend! Keiz will be taking a mini-vacation until the afternoon of Monday, January 30th, but Tyrant will be doing a lot of the same fun content expected on this stream! Give Tyrant the same love and support you'd give Keiz and treat this like standard streams, and Keiz will see you all Monday afternoon!

[slim thorn]

wow, I've spent more than an hour just in the starting area talking to corpses and morticians and I'm unironically loving it

[gaunt marten]

It's great

[river veldt]

is t hat pokemon

[gaunt marten]

Yep

Specifically Pokémon emerald randomizer

[uneven epoch]

why's the thumbnail crystal then

[gaunt marten]

Same thing

I'm not watching the video because it's not actually Keizaron

[slim thorn]

I'm starting to see why fans of these old-school isometric RPGs talk about there always being non-combat solutions to problems

I just "defeated" a giant armored skeleton without entering combat by messing up the runes on its armor in the right order, with the help of a book I found upstairs

[wind stump]

Phooey

[dire gate]

Persona

[wind stump]

Kinda makes me wonder if this line inspired this song https://youtu.be/QaSSXcbS8YY

Though then again, P4D came out first

[quiet swift]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2088840/Picayune_Dreams/ Hm, interesting take on vamp survivors style game

Steam

Picayune Dreams

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Release Date

2023

▶ Play video

[dapper cedar]

Sweep is excite
https://youtu.be/jMxrc23XsSA

[sacred grove]

https://twitter.com/ign/status/1620202974931828737

IGN (@IGN)

EXCLUSIVE: IGN has learned from multiple sources that PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo won't be part of E3 2023. https://t.co/bd3iVYOs26

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Twitter · Jan 30, 2023, 11:31 PM

Super ded

[quiet swift]

[mossy flume]

I thought that was already the case, but cool XD

E3 is doomed

[arctic fern]

Rebrand to I3
Make it about indie games
Could still work, albeit to a lesser extent

[river veldt]

on the one hand ha
but on the other hand i'll miss it

[rancid herald]

:/

[teal sonnet]

OOF

Game Awards became the new E3

[fresh bane]

I LOVE YOU ELIZABETH