#general gaming
fresh bane
chilly mural
fresh bane
the worst part is that that scene has the actual newspapers about the STARS team being disbanded and the whole arklay mountains incident
AND THEY DIDN'T ADAPT THAT STORY INTO A MOVIE
instead we get fucking Alice
river veldt
what was the arklay mountains incident
fresh bane
the events of the first game
fresh bane
because 'durrr my story is so much better also here's my wife as the lead role' said the director
even when they did adapt the games' stories, vaguely, into a movie in the last RE film it was still garbage
they can't even get that right 
jesus christ they let anyone make a movie these days it's baffling
dire gate
"What is the most successful TV show based on video game?"
"Pokemon"
O H
Can't really argue with it 
fresh bane
river veldt
this discussion just keeps reminding me I need to watch Arcane
fresh bane
the worst part is that I'd totally be down for a DMC movie or tv show, I mean, there are already DMC and Bayonetta animated movie/tv shows
I just don't trust anyone to make a good job with it
dire gate
this discussion just keeps reminding me I need to watch Arcane
I was almost going to say if you wanna play it you have to face the big L
fresh bane
I don't trust anyone to truly understand and grasp what makes DMC click and work for its niche fanbase to make a good tv show out of it
river veldt
me too
dire gate
I want the movie to give Nintendo the idea of "You know, maybe we should keep making those"
fresh bane
I sound like a bit of a hipster because I actually really dislike how popular Arcane is simply because now everytime I talk about a League character, especially any character that shows up in Arcane people will associate it with Arcane and say stuff like ''Oh it's that character from Arcane''
river veldt
a Zelda movie could be cool
fresh bane
When I say I like jinx and people say oh powder and I'm like who the fuck what the fuck what
when I say Vi is my favourite champion and people say Violet no shut up it's Vi
river veldt
that's a very strange mentality to have ngl. if a bunch of people start recognising Cranky Kong because he was in the Mario Movie I would be like yes
fresh bane
Yeah
smh smh these kids nowadays just weren't there for get jinxed /s
now it's oh the misery back in my day it was get jinxed 
river veldt
Because it's still Mario
then I guess I don't understand what you mean 
fresh bane
I don't like people associating it more with Arcane than with League
as if Arcane spawned all these things or Arcane is the original source
river veldt
why would you want to associate anything with League
fresh bane
Like Runeterra has a bunch of interesting characters and lands but most people will now associate it with Piltover and Zaun and Jinx and Caitlyn and Vi
Because League is cool and I'm tired of pretending it's not
river veldt
am I about to get shot
river veldt
imo League doesn't look very fun but I don't really like mobas (?) so
fresh bane
here, take this
think fast chucklenuts
dire gate
totally understandable, the genre doesn't appeal to everyone
fresh bane
League is fun in more than just the gameplay the story and characters and world is super interesting and unique
fresh bane
I mean there's a whole bunch of novels and even some comics that you could also read
river veldt
ew reading /j
fresh bane
Arcane as far as I know isn't 100% canon to the storyline of League even though it follows the same rough-ish background of the characters
which is why I get that whole irrational dislike when people talk about Arcane over League 
''Oh hey Ekko is gonna show up in Project L that's great I like him''
''Oh yeah it's that guy from Arcane ''
and then I start vibrating
with anger
dire gate
idk, I liked when they had journal of justice and league judgements
river veldt
this is a weird hangup but whatever
fresh bane
idk, I liked when they had journal of justice and league judgements
League is starting to branch out more and more into other stuff nowadays, it honestly seems like they want to distance themselves from the main game as much as possible
There was that whole ass RPG that released that nobody talks about
I still want to buy and play that one
I hope Project L has an actual story mode or campaign or arcade for each character because that would be amazing
But yeah a lot of cool stuff got ocmpletely scratched from the main continuity or lore now
like the fucking summoners 
just... goodbye
dire gate
I can see them trying
It is working a lot of times
and then they miserably fail once in a while
The whole ruined king saga got so fucked
river veldt
there was a rpg?
fresh bane
The whole ruined king saga got so fucked
Jesus christ....
that event.... I don't even know what to say about it
I have no words for how big of a fuck up that entire storyline was
the biggest offender was not giving Yorick ANYTHING to do
dire gate
I still can't forget how controversial Varus retcon was
Honestly I didn't like it but it's been too long now so whatever
fresh bane
I actually don't know exactly what you're referring to
I do remember they changed Vaarus' story but I can't remember how
dire gate
He was trying to revenge his wife and child before, and now he's an amalgam of a gay couple and a darkin
fresh bane
I do remember the new lore gave him some weird lgbt recontextualization or something like that
I should read up on the original lore because I wasn't too familiar with it
dire gate
iirc they had to fix the story once more to make it work a little bit better
fresh bane
Okay yeah I think I got the gist of it
It's definitely a weird change, but I feel like saying it's shoehorned lgbt representation will only get me weird looks
dire gate
It was...quite horrible
All the characters and they had to choose exactly the one who had a wife and love her so much
fresh bane
I dunno, Varus is one of those champions that never had a super fleshed out story, he was always kind of there but the old lore was fine, revenge story, guy that fights x thing eventually has to get help from the thing he fights to protect that which he loves
pretty by the book standard trope but it works
and now Varus is two gay guys with no personality or background we know of
yeah pretty weird change
dire gate
At least they made it a little bit better by fixing the whole darkin story
fresh bane
yeah old league lore wasn't without its issues
it was very messy and unorganized and with the new lore they definitely made everything much smoother and better connected
I actually kinda enjoy what current League is about even if I disagree with some things or miss some old stuff, mostly a lot of new league content has been great at redesigning characters, Arcane and Caitlyn's update before Arcane were a pretty huge example, and Legends of Runeterra is doing a GREAT job at redesigning characters and expanding the world
Riven has such a badass design in LoR
her LoL design is garbage in comparison and so extremely outdated, she has the same model as she did back in like 2011
quiet swift
So cooling down from Dragonflight, playing some more Disco Elysium.... ||Good lord Evrart is a slimeball||
fresh bane
Evrart rules
I 'finished' Disco a couple days ago and goddamn
what a masterpiece of a game
quiet swift
Also, ||punching Cuno is the most satisfying thing yet||
slim thorn
thorny loom
E
thorny loom
If its first play through thats about normal
river veldt
E
slim thorn
yeah, the rank criteria all but guarantee an E on first playthrough unless you look this stuff up in advance and actively try to avoid it
slim thorn
?
river veldt
hold on ill dm
gaunt marten
jErma
slim thorn
You should have used savestates to cheat
the funny thing is I did use save states for one specific thing: one lift in the sewers tends to softlock the game so testing and working around it involved save states
quartz pawn
Grand Finale
proud warren
Twi got eviscerated; she didn't die, she got deleted from that plane of existence
quartz pawn
Twi got eviscerated; she didn't *die*, she got deleted from that plane of existe...
grand finale eliminates the opponent's existence through instant death
proud warren
doesn't sound too fair now does it?
wind stump
goth charcoal birb <3
quartz pawn
goth charcoal birb <3
unyu
random steppe
I've replayed a portion of Death Stranding recently, and I arrived at a conclusion.
Hideo Kojima makes smart games for dumb people*
Now, I don't mean that people that enjoy his games are dumb, just that he makes sure that even if you are really not media savy, or are clinically unable to analyse the subtext of a piece of media, you will still get what he is trying to say.
He will tell you, over and over.
He does adresses pretty complicated themes, and generally in a pretty competent way, but there is no subtext
Everything is text in his games.
Which is really interesting
quiet swift
Tell, not show?
random steppe
Oh he'll do both
quiet swift
Unrelated: I think this round of 20 minutes till dawn went fairly well https://gfycat.com/assuredmaturedartfrog
Immigrant song intensifies
random steppe
An example for death stranding, the only way that, by the end of the 1st hour or so of Death Stranding, you don't know where each of the characters stand about reconnecting America, is if you just had a stroke.
Every character must repeat his position on the topic 2 or 3 times
In very certain terms
quiet swift
grim stirrup
Unrelated: I think this round of 20 minutes till dawn went fairly well <:ppenk:6...
i should play more of that game
visual hill
you get a Duke Nukem and he gets a Duke Nukem, everyone gets a Duke Nukem!
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-canceled-unreal-engine-powered-remake-of-duke-nukem-3d-duke-nukem-3d-reloaded-has-been-leaked-online/
(this is the 3rd leak this year of a Duke Nukem game, after DNF2001 and a 2D sidescrolling platformer)
dapper cedar
Just a month away
I know we don’t like preorders here but either way I was gonna get the game and I’m already terrible with money
fresh bane
youtube stop
don't say this about my favourite zelda 
green fulcrum
youtube stop
don't say this about my favourite zelda <:twicry:833417236969422878...
Ah yes, the Zelda that Nintendo never wanted to make so they went out of their way to make it twice.
fresh bane
how long is that game??? 14 saves? that's so little
I used 36 saves on my lp of RE1!
Oh derp, it says right there
6 hours
holy shit I took 15 hours to get through re1 
wise frigate
youtube stop
don't say this about my favourite zelda <:twicry:833417236969422878...
his bow has an arrow with a suction cup, but the photoshop work is an actual arrow
half assed thumbnail wont watch
quiet swift
<:flutternatureissofascinating:740289935839330435> i should play more of that ga...
Do eeet! Elemental builds are insane
https://vxtwitter.com/Xbox/status/1609248295179718658 which one are you? 
gaunt marten
Fuck 'new year new me'
I was already on the right track this year so I'm not gonna change
gaunt marten
Stupid server. Let me edit my posts
river veldt
has anyone here played Final Fantasy Tactics
static bluff
Many, many years ago
gaunt marten
No.
river veldt
is it good
gaunt marten
I played Tactics Advance which is one of the best games of all time
I recommend Advance and Advance 2
gaunt marten
February, March, April, May and June
More Crusader Kings! Mostly Crusader Kings.
Little bits of Chippy, Axiom Verge, and:
Eagle Island Twist: A nice platformer game with a roguelike mode. I liked it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/681110/Eagle_Island_Twist/
Yes, they were for the GBA
Here's a song from the OST
It's a little distorted
July
Factorio: You know this one. One of my all-time favorite videogames. This year I played with a friend a modpack where you explore other planets. https://store.steampowered.com/app/427520/Factorio/
Monster Sanctuary: Pokemon Metroidvania! It's very comfy, cleverly designed and well balanced. You'd love it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/814370/Monster_Sanctuary/
Sunblaze: Tries to be like Celeste. It's not good.
Crypt of the Necrodancer: It's a Rhythm Game roguelike. It's good and has a lot of depth. Everyone should give it a try. https://store.steampowered.com/app/247080/Crypt_of_the_NecroDancer/
Spiritfarer: Charming but too slow for me to enjoy. https://store.steampowered.com/app/972660/Spiritfarer_Farewell_Edition/
I also played Slay the Spire and Crusader Kings 2 again.
river veldt
I've tried the Zelda Necrodancer game and didn't like it very much sadly
gaunt marten
That's fine
August
More Factorio, Monster Sanctuary, Crusader Kings 2.
Despotsim 3k: I got it for free and gave it a try. Wasn't into it but it wasn't bad. https://store.steampowered.com/app/699920/Despotism_3k/
The next four months are packed so I'll give the spam filter time to cool down first.
gaunt marten
It's amazing
slim thorn
@fresh bane well, that 14 is just for Leon B, not for all of RE2; my RE1 numbers^ weren't that much better than what you posted, and I had a bunch of advice from Tale
river veldt
right now DF is on my priority list to get, but Factorio might move up in my list
gaunt marten
Oh, looks like my January post was deleted, but it's still on my desktop client
river veldt
it had a Switch port recently which makes it more appealing to me
fresh bane
<@200761798117294081> well, that 14 is just for Leon B, not for all of RE2; my R...
Oh yeah I know it's just for Leon B, but it's still surprising
I'm assuming that RE2's individual 'campaigns' are shorter because there's like 4 different campaigns?
As in, scenarios A and B for each character are relatively short
fresh bane
Yeah so together they'd make the entire duration of RE1 I assume
I'm about to start playing Re3 myself
I never played 3 so this will be exciting
slim thorn
my RE1RE was 14 hours 24 saves, my RE2 ClaireA was 7 hours 16 saves, and my RE2 LeonB was 6 hours 14 saves
so yes I'd say an RE1RE playthrough is roughly equal to an original RE2 playthrough
slim thorn
sure, but replaying RE2 with LeonA/ClaireB would be like replaying RE1 with Chris
fresh bane
True!
slim thorn
there's still effectively two campaigns
fresh bane
That's true
I might replay RE1 but not with Chris
sorry Chris it's just that Jill is cooler
also she has one more inventory slot
fresh bane
oh yeah she does have two more
also lockpicks
so Jill is essentially ''easy'' mode
Chris is hard mode
slim thorn
Jill also has less health and different weapons
the way I play these kinds of games, Jill's definitely the more fun option, albeit likely also easier
fresh bane
I never noticed the lower health problem until stronger enemies appeared but even by the end of the game I had a buuunch of bullets and health items I never used
I guess I'm 2 good at these games
I think Chris gets a combat shotgun
slim thorn
the whole limited inventory thing is probably what I have the most mixed feelings about because I like what they're going for and the gameplay style it forces you to adopt, but it also leads to a lot of game time being spent running back and forth to item boxes when you simply guessed wrong about how many inventory slots you needed to keep clear, especially since "bring more stuff just in case" is always the safer option once you have a clear path to a box
granted, that's mostly annoying because when you're running through 5-10 empty rooms, the load times for every door and camera angle suddenly add up to a very noticeable amount of dead time
which applies to RE1 original + remake, but I know later remakes nudge the gameplay in a more RE4 direction so maybe RE2RE will be different
fresh bane
Uhhhhmmmm kinda? And yeah since that is very much the point it's a case of you either like it or not because a limitless inventory is great for a different type of game like SH
In RE games at least classic ones it's very much the idea that you'll be running around this one area for a bit so it's logical to think that you might do some trips to a safe room and save progress and or drop items
I felt this the hardest on Signalis because that game has a VERY limited inventory
Even in RE you get at least 9 slots or a possibility to get 9,in Signalis you have 6,take it or leave it and fuck off
I pretty much always carry my gun and at least ammunition for it or another gun and a health item so that's 3 slots already and when the game drops a bunch of resources at you then it is a huge pain to do a bunch of trips
You either do a trip to complete empty youe inventory or you grab what you can, drop it, run back and then back again
Fortunately most of the trips are not that far, at most like 2 or 3 rooms away, is it annoying? Kinda, but it takes less than 3 min to do the entire thing
slim thorn
right, now that I've see how RE1RE did "defensive items" I completely agree that was a missed opportunity for Signalis; I simply could not ever use those because I needed those inventory slots for other stuff
slim thorn
Fortunately most of the trips are not that far, at most like 2 or 3 rooms away, ...
well, in practice this is true because I'll do more trips when the box is this close
but in both games so far I've made several trips over 5-10 rooms because there were no closer boxes and I completely ran out of space so it was impossible to progress without dropping stuff
(as well as more than one occasion where I simply wasted health items or grenades just to clear a slot)
to be clear, again, it's a mixed feeling for me; I like that it's forcing me to think about resource management a lot, I just think there's ways it could be improved so that I get the decision making without the long boring walks back to boxes
like, why can't I just drop stuff on the ground and come back for it later if I care?
gaunt marten
I agree
I'm so glad modern games tend to go in the direction of convenience over realism
slim thorn
oh, I don't think "realism" comes into either end of this
all item boxes are magically linked like Ender Chests (unless you replay on "Real Survival")
gaunt marten
It's totally realistic to hold twenty herbs with your hands
slim thorn
items that your character has special holsters for like ammo, knives and grenades take up the same slots as every other kind of item instead of being a separate slot (but RE1RE daggers do get a special slot! )
and of course (almost) every item is 1 whole slot
(granted RE4 did a lot better about plausible item sizes, and I unironically enjoyed "inventory tetris" there)
(which I guess proves the point; they have been improving this)
fresh bane
Oh god yeah RE1R definitely did a great job with the separate slots for daggers and tazers
RE2R and RE3R didn't do that unfortunately
slim thorn
but yeah I think if I had the option to simply put objects on the ground to free up space then I'd have no complaints about the gameplay of RE1RE
(unless you count the bullshit boulder lol)
river veldt
all item boxes are magically linked like Ender Chests (unless you replay on "Rea...
ender chests are great but shulker boxes are even betteer
fresh bane
Uhhhm I don't know if you can actually drop items in RE games... I do remember playing a game where you can do that
but yeah I guess that would be a good tradeoff, for me I just burned through a health item
Like for example while making my last escape in RE1 I loaded up on ammo and pure health items, but then you need to PICK UP a battery to power the elevator 
slim thorn
I've done that a few times, but there've also been many times I got full without any health items
fresh bane
so I had no choice but to just free up a slot and I was't going to go back to the safe room
And after you put the battery back in, they don't let you go back, so you now have one less inventory slot
slim thorn
right
fresh bane
that's definitely something that for me it was kinda shitty, but I did super good on the fight so it wasn't that big of a deal in the end
slim thorn
oh I guess the other quibble thing would be that every 2-slot weapon is nowhere near good enough to deserve 2 slots
(rocket launcher doesn't count because it's basically a scripted event)
fresh bane
I don't remember ever picking up a 2 slot weapon actually 
even the grenade launcher is 1 slot
and the magnum, which was amazing
slim thorn
and I think Tale warned me that the custom handgun takes 2 slots in the remake so that's something to watch out for
fresh bane
even in SIgnalis when I got the submachine gun I was like ''cool! .... I'll never use this''
river veldt
wow RE2 had Super Mario Galaxy
fresh bane
Yeah the custom Matilda has a stock you can put in it for better aiming and more power
but it does make the weapon 2 slot
it's... cool, I guess
I wish I experienced the same as you because I actually had no problems or isues with the trips back and from the item box
slim thorn
in the grand scheme of things it's a pretty minor complaint
fresh bane
So for me personally I cannot say that it was much of an issue asides from the ''ugh, I have to go back, fine alright let me calculate how much space I'll need for most efficient number of trips''
slim thorn
and the whole thinking about which rooms to spend ammo clearing out so you have a path to item boxes thing is great
it's just not great when, through no fault of your own (or rather, through being cautious like the game wants you to be), the only choice ends up being "wait for 10 minutes of mindless walking until you can go back to playing the game again"
fresh bane
yeah, in the last laboratory area of the... well, the laboratory in RE1, there are two zombies right out the safe room that I just straight up headshotted with the shotgun because I am NOT dealing with zombies outside my safe room
I want a super clear path so I can move freely
river veldt
what if Mario was in resident evil
fresh bane
Hmmmm, I guess this affects some players more than others
Like I said I pretty much went through the entire game with my handgun and all the ammo I could find plus 1 healing item, other than that my inventory was always clean, so I would always go to the room to dump items when I still had a lot more to explore so it was never an issue for me
I guess the best way to do this would be to either make safe rooms easily accessible or more safe rooms, although the mansion already has like 3.... but some of them are very hard to access
slim thorn
wait, only your handgun?
fresh bane
there's one safe room that's guarded by 2 zombies, 3 if you count the ones in the top of the stairs, then there's one that for half of the game you cannot access at all from one side
so you have to go aaaaall the way around the mansion to get there
yeah I don't usually fight a lot in these games
I only brought the shotgun up against Hunters and at the latter portions of the game because I wanted to easily clear rooms by headshotting zombies so they don't wake up as crimson heads and so I could save up my grenade launcher ammo types and magnum ammo for the final boss
I did the same for Signalis although Signalis is... significantly more hard than RE1
at least when it comes to avoiding combat and enemies
slim thorn
oh I always carry at least 2 weapons because these are my first playthroughs and I simply have no idea what I'm going to need
fresh bane
right, I had already played RE1 so I guess it's an unfair comparison
slim thorn
and I was avoiding fighting as much as I could in RE1RE (RE2's kinda different)
oh yeah absolutely if I was replaying any of these I'd abuse my foresight to take far fewer items everywhere
this is 100% about the first playthrough experience
(like most game commentary, because most people play through a game once, maybe)
fresh bane
don't get me wrong I played RE1 before but never finished it so it's technically still my very first playthrough
and again I did the same thing for Signalis so this is just how I play the games, even on my first run
slim thorn
ah
fresh bane
I guess we'll see how I do with RE3 since I know NOTHING about this game
Like, at all, never even seen any footage from this game before
slim thorn
I guess it happened a lot with Signalis too but there I was in it for story more than gameplay so my thoughts all focus on that side of things, like with Silent Hill
gaunt marten
I keep hearing about Signalis and it's such a cool name
The graphics are great too. It's a shame I don't like the genre
fresh bane
I'm kinda tempted to use a guide for RE3 though since I heard it's a lot more open than other RE games
there's a lot of replay value and I guess going in blind might be fun, I just don't wanna get lost
these are the types of games where if you stop playing for a week and then jump back in you'll be extremely confused and lost
slim thorn
I mean, surely that'd be the whole point of an open-er game is exploring it yourself?
fresh bane
LoooOOOOost
slim thorn
oh yeah these are all games I'd've been more hesitant to start if I wasn't on time off
fresh bane
yeah, I'm just a bit of a completionist freak and I like using guides because it gives me that checklist feeling
✅
slim thorn
ah
other way around for me, obeying a guide sucks all the fun thought out of game playing for me
of course it's fine that the options exist and we all get stuck on really weird and silly things once in a while, but when a game requires a guide to get through something IMO that always means something went wrong
fresh bane
Mmm, I did not do that for Signalis, I wanted to beat that game entirely on my own, but I would use a guide for a second playthrough
gaunt marten
other way around for me, obeying a guide sucks all the fun thought out of game p...
I'm a complete doormat so I love following guides
fresh bane
for RE1 I didn't use a guide persé, just a map that told me where stuff was, that way I knew where to go next and what to do without getting lost
river veldt
I'm a complete doormat so I love following guides
cant tell if joking or not but same
fresh bane
So everytime I reached a key point I'd take a quick glance at the map and know roughly where to go but it was still up to me to do all the stuff
like I wouldn't use a guide to look up puzzle solutions and all that for example, I suck at explaining myself
(although RE1's puzzles aren't that hard...)
The knight statues was probably the hardest puzzle because I couldn't fricking see the pictures
gaunt marten
Only 50% joking
fresh bane
if I find a map like that for RE3 I'd be down to use it, especially since RE games, barring the new remakes that do do this, don't tell you where items are and if you cleared a room or not
so it can be extremely difficult to know if you got everything in a room in an old RE game
slim thorn
right, in-game maps and stuff are great because the game can tell you only the information you need to keep the decision-making fun and interesting without just spoiling all the answers
in fact when I was playing RE1 I kept taking screenshots of the ingame maps and scribbling over them in Paint.NET with all the unsolved puzzles, door lock types and one-way doors I'd identified so far
fresh bane
well that's the classic way to do it
Silent Hill always did that stuff for you in the in game map, which was amazing 
👌
RE didn't...
slim thorn
RE marks some things but not others
fresh bane
slim thorn
of course so does SH
RE1RE marked which rooms you'd been to and which doors were unopenable
but not where unsolved puzzles were or which kind of unopenable a door was
interestingly RE2's map does show which key opens which door, but not one-way doors
fresh bane
the only things RE1R marked was cleared rooms, open doors, unopened or locked doors which are the usual, and safe rooms
random steppe
I am one hour late but I want to highlight Spiritfarer among the ones Flitter mentioned
gaunt marten
I'm still posting the rest of the list
fresh bane
But RE2R and RE3R actually tell you where items and puzzle locations are too which is great
slim thorn
oh and RE1RE's map marked one way doors after you'd been through them once; not after you'd gotten the "this is locked from the other side" text
gaunt marten
I just don't wanna interrupt conversation
fresh bane
random steppe
So many hugs happening in that game, it's lovely
fresh bane
oh and RE1RE's map marked one way doors _after_ you'd been through them once; no...
I hated the one way door in the mansion that would BREAK after a couple uses
it gets magically repaired after half of the game but by that point it was already frustrating if you wanted to get to that part of the mansion because you had to go alllll the way around
but yeah the 2 and 3 remakes have the best maps I feel, lots of vital information
slim thorn
Tale laughed so hard at my experience with that door
"wait, does that text mean it's going to break when I go through it?"
goes in, turns around and presses A again
"huh, it let me back out"
turns around and goes back in
"ok now I need to know if this is really going to break or not"
repeats until I'm trapped in the other half of the mansion
"there we go! "
fresh bane
game: this door will break
player: huh, is that right?
game: no- wait sto-- WHAT WHY?
slim thorn
best thing Barry ever does in that game is fix the bloody doorknob
fresh bane
once again
thank you barry
you fix my doorknobs, you give me resources, you shoot my enemies in the shoulder
I didn't know about that door so when I got the text that said ''next time you use this door it will break'' I just stood there, with wide eyes
and I was like ''ooohh.........''
slim thorn
oh right, I don't think I mentioned this here, but I got the ending where both Barry and Chris escape with Jill
gaunt marten
When a door breaks it either turns into a wall or an archway. Both are still fine
fresh bane
yeah me too, I didn't know how to save chris from the door so I looked it up, but I was still confused, I didn't really understood the requirements
until the self destruct sequence activated and the game literally said ''all locks released'' and I was like derp
slim thorn
huh, I figured that out on my own
simply exploring every room and taking every unique item was enough to make it clear what the requirements were
fresh bane
the thing is, I'm extremely anxious about this kind of stuff, so I was uncertain if I needed to unlock Chris' cell before ending the game, I didn't want to get locked into the final sequence without freeing him
so until the last moment I was like ''fuuuckk how do you do ittt'' until that happened and I just beelined it to Chris' cell to get him
slim thorn
oh sure, you can never be sure you're not passing a point of no return in any game
in RE2 the door that both characters have to scan fingerprints at so the B character can open it went totally over my head until I was already playing B
wait, do you not need to do the 3 MO Disk thing to reach Chris' cell?
slim thorn
well yes I know that from having done it all lol
it's just the way you worded all that made it sound like you skipped the disks part
fresh bane
Oh no, you can't even reach that cell without the disks as soon as I did all the disks I went there but the actual door was locked so that's when the panikk started
slim thorn
aaah
I guess it was the opposite for me, knowing I'd found all 3 disks let me comfortably assume the final unlock would come later
fresh bane
my mind goblins started acting up in the morgue room because there's apparently some items there and I couldn't get them because of that pesky chimera that would keep respawning, that super sucked in that last area
I didn't think that because I assumed the elevator was the point of no return
I thought you'd go into the final fight with Barry and Chris, which you do, but I didn't know that the fight with the tyrant at the lab room isn't the final encounter
slim thorn
oh, it also helps that RE1RE's map tells you if you missed any items
there's probably something in RE2 I just never found and have no idea was there
fresh bane
I don't think RE2 and RE3 have that feature
Only RE1R by virtue of being, well, a remake
a damn good one
I wish RE2 and 3 got the same treatment....
static bluff
Factorio is pretty great.
mossy flume
Yes it is. Dyson Sphere Program and Satisfactory are also fantastic.
#1032767535805902888 is available as well
river veldt
btw @gaunt marten you can finish ur list now
gaunt marten
September
More Factorio and Chippy.
Boneraiser Minions: The best game of the burgeoning bullet heaven genre. You raise minions to fight for you while avoiding the horde of people coming to kill you. Collect bones to grow stronger and finally pound king gigald. It's got a lot of lewd plays on words and it's very cheap. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1944570/Boneraiser_Minions/
Tiny Rogues: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2088570/Tiny_Rogues/ It's a simple bullet hell dungeon crawler. Like the Binding of Isaac but simpler and faster.
Sproggiwood: A casual but true roguelike game. It's fun and has a very short session length. https://store.steampowered.com/app/311720/Sproggiwood/
Rimworld: You know this one. It's Dwarf Fortress but accessible. https://store.steampowered.com/app/294100/RimWorld/
Assault Android Cactus: Very enjoyable arcadey twin stick shooter where you play cute robot girls and fight ugly robot boys. https://store.steampowered.com/app/250110/Assault_Android_Cactus/
TOEM: A Short Hike but you have a camera? I didn't play it for long but it was nice. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1307580/TOEM/
I also played Slime Rancher this month.
river veldt
Rimworld looks interesting but I'm more interested in DF because I prefer it's theming over RW
static bluff
Oh, have you checked out Slime Rancher 2?
river veldt
dwarves are cooler than space things imo
gaunt marten
Rimworld's latest expansion has dwarves
I agree that the theming on Dwarf Fortress is a lot more interesting
But overall, I prefer Rimworld by far
I did check out Slime Rancher 2. I'm excited to buy it in five years when it's cheap
river veldt
lol
river veldt
I've heard of TOEM I think it was in a Nintendo Indie Showcase
gaunt marten
That makes sense. It's kind of Nintendo style
October
XCOM 2: War of the Chosen: It's a very interesting blend of tactical and strategy games. If you try it, play it with the expansion. The expansion Improves it in almost every way and supercedes the base game. https://store.steampowered.com/app/268500/XCOM_2/
Europa Universalis IV: It's Crusader Kings 2, but instead of controlling people you control nations, and the time period is shifted from medieval times to the age of discovery. https://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/Europa_Universalis_IV/
Seraph's Last Stand: Incremental twin stick shooter bullet heaven where you play a wizard and shoot baddies, with a focus on stacking upgrades to break the game. It's only a dollar. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1919460/Seraphs_Last_Stand/
Luftrausers: Very challenging classic Vlambeer game where you play an airplane. It's fun but too hard for me. https://store.steampowered.com/app/233150/LUFTRAUSERS/
Tangle Tower: My favorite point and click puzzle game of all time. You play as a pair of detectives investigating a murder by a painting. The soundtrack, voice acting, environments and writing are all so good. https://store.steampowered.com/app/359510/Tangle_Tower/
Factorio, Sproggiwood, Tiny Rogues, Boneraiser Minions, Slime Rancher and Rimworld also made comebacks.
river veldt
is Tangle Tower better than Space Quest 3
gaunt marten
I don't play games older than I am
gaunt marten
And I'm 1992
static bluff
😦 my favorite NES game came out in 87
river veldt
:C
gaunt marten
3D Marios>2D Marios
river veldt
😦 my favorite NES game came out in 87
what is it!
static bluff
Guess
gaunt marten
Earthbound
river veldt
3D Marios>2D Marios
this opnion is actually true
static bluff
No
gaunt marten
Space Quest 3
river veldt
Space Quest 3 wasn't on NES silly
static bluff
Here's a hint, in this game you try to save a princess named Zelda
gaunt marten
It was 1987
river veldt
Here's a hint, in this game you try to save a princess named Zelda
oh yeah, that makes sense
dire gate
Wait but I thought the hero's name was Zelda
river veldt
I thought Zelda was 86 but that might be Japan's release date
gaunt marten
Correct
dire gate
Zelda was never released for NES in 86 because Japan doesn't have NES
gaunt marten
The first good Zelda was A Link to the Past
river veldt
yes technically it's the Famicom
river veldt
yes
gaunt marten
I'd place the Faces of Evil at their level
river veldt
if you have a guide handy
river veldt
I'd place the Faces of Evil at their level
ok you are trolling
gaunt marten
It's my genuine opinion. I plain don't like Zelda 1 or 2
static bluff
I bet you can't guess my favorite Sega Master System game. It's got a cult following but it's not exactly well known. It'd make a really good #1048910682927673396 game, though, due to it's very unique visuals.
river veldt
Alex Kidd?
gaunt marten
You should suggest it to the Guess the Game Author
They have a section for suggesting new games
static bluff
Good guess but no
river veldt
hmm
gaunt marten
November
Rogue Genesia: It's a bullet heaven. It's okay. My GPU isn't good enough to run it well. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2067920/Rogue_Genesia/
Master Spy: A retro style precision platformer. Very good and authentic, pretty accessible and goes on deep sales. https://store.steampowered.com/app/331190/Master_Spy
Jenny Leclue: Charming point and click detective game. I love it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/319870/Jenny_LeClue__Detectivu/
Making a comeback are EU4, Factorio, Slay the Spire, Boneraiser Minions, Tiny Rogues, XCOM 2.
static bluff
You should suggest it to the Guess the Game Author
I'll do that
river veldt
Fantasy Zone!
static bluff
Ding ding ding
river veldt
wait I got it??
static bluff
Yes
river veldt
that's literally the only Master System game aside from Alex Kidd and the Sonic ports I know lmao
river veldt
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November
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Rogue Genesia: It's a bullet heaven. It's okay....
Slay the Spire pog
gaunt marten
Yeah!
December
Epic Battle Fantasy 5: Classic series. It's fine. https://store.steampowered.com/app/432350/Epic_Battle_Fantasy_5/
Vampire Survivors: It focuses very strongly on uh... I don't know, but everybody likes it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1794680/Vampire_Survivors/
Escape Goat 2: Puzzle Platformer with excellent music and clever puzzles: https://store.steampowered.com/app/255340/Escape_Goat_2/
A Short Hike: Comfy and fun.
Also making a comeback are EUIV, Factorio, Tiny Rogues, Boneraiser Minions, Sproggiwood.
Upcoming in my to Play list are https://store.steampowered.com/app/1082710/Bug_Fables_The_Everlasting_Sapling/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059980/Just_King/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2083900/FLERP/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1234940/Astronarch/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/915310/SNKRX/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/762220/Afterparty/
river veldt
Bug Fables I've heard is really good
gaunt marten
It's a Paper Mario!
river veldt
yeah!
gaunt marten
Quite charming and pleasant
Back to January since that one got deleted:
January
Axiom Verge: Fantastic Metroid game. Highly replayable, very well polished. https://store.steampowered.com/app/332200/Axiom_Verge/
Project Highrise: You get to design cool skyscrapers. I loved it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/423580/Project_Highrise/
Crusader Kings 2: This one's about simulating a dynasty of rulers and how they interact with the world. It's one of my most played games of the year for good reason. https://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/Crusader_Kings_II/
The Binding of Isaac. https://store.steampowered.com/app/250900/The_Binding_of_Isaac_Rebirth/
Streets of Rogue: It's fun: https://store.steampowered.com/app/512900/Streets_of_Rogue/
Chippy: It's a puzzle game where you chip bits off of bosses while traversing their bullet hell attacks. One of my favorite arcade games of all time. https://store.steampowered.com/app/602700/Chippy/
Brigador. https://store.steampowered.com/app/274500/Brigador_UpArmored_Edition/
Celeste: One of the best platformers of all time. https://store.steampowered.com/app/504230/Celeste/
Spelunky 2: It's a very difficult adventure platformer where you explore a well-designed randomly generated dungeon, trying not to die. It's loads of fun. https://store.steampowered.com/app/418530/Spelunky_2/
Frostpunk, Project Zomboid: Didn't like them.
river veldt
Celeste and BoI are amazing
gaunt marten
I agree
If from these I had to make a list of the games I enjoyed the most this year
It would be Crusader Kings 2, EU4, Factorio, Monster Sanctuary, Boneraiser Minions, Chippy, Tangle Tower, A Short Hike, Assault Android Cactus
static bluff
Project highrise was interesting
static bluff
Totally agree
river veldt
Onosa try to guess my favourite NES game
static bluff
Hmm. Mario 3?
arctic fern
https://youtu.be/ugBDsaEIYog ooo payday 3 news
river veldt
SMB 2 is a close runner up
slim thorn
one of these days I'll circle back to the other Hitmans
gaunt marten
I don't trust the Payday developers ever since they promised they wouldn't add lootboxes and went back on it
hushed onyx
Rimworld looks interesting but I'm more interested in DF because I prefer it's t...
See, I’m the complete opposite. Dwarves are boring, space stuff is cool.
gaunt marten
Dwarves are boring, but the world they're in is very exciting
arctic fern
i do prefer rimworld over DF because i just like scifi more
and the UI is better in rimworld, DF is still clunky, this orders of magnatude better than when i first tried to play it
minor gorge
Space is nice.
sacred grove
RimWorld does have more cost associated with it if you want all the things
And future cost when more expansions come out
gaunt marten
The cost per hour is still negligible
arctic fern
The cost per hour is still negligible
agreed lol
arctic fern
the game is very good yeah
but the company decided to add lootboxes when they said they wouldnt
they rolled back that decision, but it left a sour taste in many's mouths
hasty patio
They also decided to end the story... then brought it back when financial issues came to light and forced them to continue to make DLC to stay alive long enough for PD3 to even be a thing.
Game is decent, but there are a lot of "meta" things that make me weary.
hasty patio
There is also:
- Hype Train event
- Power Creep in DLC that makes older ones just not worth it
- Failure of Raid/Walking Dead/VR headset
- A number of folks have gone elsewhere (either Indie or GTFO)
- Probably some lingering financial issues from the fallout
I'll keep my options open. If they get a working engine that can make the game better and tone back some of the bullshit, I might get it.
arctic fern
hype train event?
Failure of Raid/Walking Dead/VR headset?
i am unaware of these events
hasty patio
Hype Train was an event that lasted a few weeks. People bought special DLC to "fuel" it among other things. When they added skins and the loot "safes", they got something special, which ended up being shit. They apologized later with special masks and the like.
Raid is a game by Lion Game Lion, who did a number of DLCs for PD2. Imagine PD in WW2, but on the PD1 engine. It had no updates for years after release until fairly recently.
Walking Dead was supposed to be their next big game. They flubbed it hard, costing them the contract and planned purchases.
I can't recall the VR headseat, but it was a bet by one of the heads to get into that area. It failed to where you can only find those headsets in that office/city.
This doesn't count that the console versions of the game are years behind on updates and content. Even TF2 is more up on that front.
Even with all of the money, misspent or not, Starbreeze still isn't making profit off of this.
arctic fern
ah
unreal idol
So what's the current status of Switch homebrew
Is it easy to install emulators for other systems? I remember messing with Wii homebrew a lot and really enjoying it
hasty patio
ah
https://www.eurogamer.net/the-fall-of-swedish-game-wonder-starbreeze Give that a read. It's a bit old and things have changed, but it gives you an idea of what I have mentioned or briefly summarized.
hasty patio
The wiki sums up post 2019, since it has been mostly quiet.
gaunt marten
Older switches are easier to hack
Consider buying one used
Nintendo has been fighting hard against people who want control over the hardware they buy
gilded moth
I remember hearing a rumor that a new exploit for hacking newer Switches has been discovered, but it's apparently being kept secret until they stop being patched.
gaunt marten
That's dumb because Nintendo will never stop patching exploits are until they move on to the next console
gaunt marten
>Ground pin 10 of your right Joycon rail
**what**
That exploit is permanent. There are easier ones but you'll have to do them every restart
unreal idol
Consider buying one used
Mine is a launch Switch
quiet swift
uneven epoch
tell me literally everything about how ur likin the game
quiet swift
I am staunchly refusing to drink, smoke, or do drugs
uneven epoch
also whenever you're choosin to punch the fascist in the face. because thats the only correct way to get to evrart
and also, it is very glorious takedown
quiet swift
I've only punched Cuno so far, and it was immensely satisfying
uneven epoch
oh noooooo 
i mean i get it but a later check will b way harder if u decide to pursue it
that modifier is rough
river veldt
Bringi would you recommend this game
uneven epoch
if you're okay with giant amount of readin
river veldt
i love reading
quiet swift
Do you love disgusting neckties talking to you and telling you to do things?
uneven epoch
then yes. it may be a bit confusin sometimes, especially in first playthrough, but it is a delightful game
uneven epoch
as a unashamed save/load roll abuser, that sounds like too much work. menuin on anythin but pc is like. clunkier i imagine
quiet swift
quiet swift
Yes, yes he is
river veldt
wait so is moustache man unhinged
uneven epoch
bear fridge my adored, its so good. if ud some pointers how to get that particular scene, just ask
quiet swift
Nah I just found it like half an hour ago
Was just waiting for Kim to get back from his errand
river veldt
I can't stop reading this one just the sudden realisation that lawyers can be gay is so funny
slim thorn
...bear fridge?
uneven epoch
wait so is moustache man unhinged
ooh i see. if ur lookin to get all armor pieces, now is the best time to rob the corpse n clean the boots
river veldt
wha
uneven epoch
since kim does not like that. what he cant see doesnt hurt him
river veldt
bringi am confuse
river veldt
<@149966637385121792>
this man is homosexual
uneven epoch
bi
river veldt
why does moustache man look like he's running on a half hour of sleep
river veldt
i see
so his amnesia wasn't cause by like
a bad guy knocking him out or something
he just drank too hard
uneven epoch
he is very sad
fun fact the devs struggled with acoholism a lot durin development, and you can tell
river veldt
ooooh
uneven epoch
i dont think any other game ive played captures the complexity of humans as well as disco elysium does. it is really good writing
so anyway there's this guy thats so rich the spacetime around him cant handle it and just kinda, gives up
thats a thing in a game, if you know where to look
like i said. delightfully unhinged
quiet swift
"It's planescape torment meets fear and loathing in las vegas"
uneven epoch
:>
river veldt
:>
quiet swift
Yahtzee disguises a video about it with modern warfare but about halfway through he is just talking about Disco Elysium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi0pyPwxz6Y
(around 2:25)
river veldt
i remmebr being really into ZP several years back even though we have such differing opnions on games
uneven epoch
also it funny how u can clearly see my play preference. high volition, shit ass endurance
not that i worry about morale checks i just like when volition chimes in
tho my 'primary' skill is visual calculus because i live for those graphics. gimme all the slightly pretentious cool ass recreations of crime happening
generally i try to keep somewhat high across the board at expense of red skills, i let those tank. u can argue physical instrument is important, n ud b right, but u see theres a) plenty clothes with red modifiers n b) i savescum anyway
river veldt
Yahtzee disguises a video about it with modern warfare but about halfway through...
ok im totally sold this game sounds fucking awesome
not cod
god no
disco elysium
no one take that out of context
uneven epoch
lmao
river veldt
im the boing boing mario man why would anyone think I would be interested in cod
quiet swift
https://store.steampowered.com/app/632470/Disco_Elysium__The_Final_Cut/ and it's a mere 10 bucks
quiet swift
Oh boy
uneven epoch
oooh klassje time
river veldt
wait are there naughty parts
uneven epoch
talked about, not explicitly shown
uneven epoch
hear ye on that, i always skip that one specific dragon age cutscene
river veldt
its part of why i didnt really like Witcher 3
uneven epoch
river veldt
lol
minor plover
This happened to me in family Jackbox (job job)
slim thorn
remember when I said Timespinner "leans toward the Castlevania end of Metroidvanias"?
it's starting to feel like an understatement
slim thorn
all right, time for the alternate endings / bosses
I'm pleasantly surprised I actually found all the items to unlock the other endings on my own (unless you count looking up tips on a boss fight; having no enemy health bars really limits how much you can test stuff on your own)
gaunt marten
Well done
slim thorn
heh, that's cute; the game has a space jump / infinite jump equivalent, but the only way to get it is to start one of the alt endings where ||your time paradoxes completely break reality||
hushed onyx
I thought that you were still playing Resident Evil, so that last one confused me.
slim thorn
I'm bouncing between stuff
gaunt marten
Less of an alt ending and more of a true ending
craggy vine
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1272080/PAYDAY_3/
I find it interesting how the Payday 3 page looks more like teasers than anything
fresh bane
Oh hey, this game does have this mechanic, awesome
slim thorn
yep, original RE2 did that too
I assume original RE1 also does, and IIRC you've also seen RE1RE do it
fresh bane
I don't know if RE1 had it but RE1R definitely did
slim thorn
the first time I got it in RE1R I paused to think about it, and then asked Tale if i was being way too suspicious of the game
fresh bane
Oh brother, going into this game fully blind is gonna be something...
I get so much anxiety from all these different options and rooms I can explore
It is super cool to actually explore Raccoon City's streets
Ahhh I'm wasting bullets like crazy
Headshots in this game are so clean to hit though
in RE1R there's a randomness to it, sometimes headshots wouldnt' register or it wouldn't blow up the head
I got two heads blown in a row 
those guys aren't getting back up again that's for sure
Kendo!!!
ayyyy
slim thorn
all right, that's every Timespinner boss defeated, and 100% map completion
I could re-defeat some to get the other regular ending, the other true-ish ending, or even more OP endgame equipment, but I think I'm good
gaunt marten
Nice work
The game doesn't have a lot of replay value, so it's fine
Don't miss the Kickstarter room though
It has a cute supporter
fresh bane
Oh wow, the game actually does tell you not only which areas you're visiting for the first time or haven't seen yet, but also which doors are locked
that's.... actually super useful....
I don't know if the red means ''you didn't clear this room of items/puzzles''
fresh bane
OH MY GOOOOD YEEEEESS FIIINALLLYYYY
THIS TOOK ME LIKE 25 MINUTES
FUUCK YOUUU
hah, that's funny
the HD mod changes Brad's picture to his concept artwork
slim thorn
I don't know if the red means ''you didn't clear this room of items/puzzles''
fwiw, in original RE2, the red just means "this is the room you're in right now"
fresh bane
Yep, seems like it's the same case here
...huh.... that's... weird
I'm in the STARS office and there's a magnum in the locker, but I reloaded a save slot because I didn't have enough inventory and wanted to empty the inventory and make another trip there but now the magnum was swapped with the grenade launcher..?
so this game has a built-in randomizer...
Hmmm, the upscaled textures definitely look nice, but there's 100% a lot of iffy stuff like the stuff on Barry's table which is meant to be spare parts/replica guns but in the upscaled version it looks like.... nothing
HOLY SHIT THAT ACTUALLY SCARED ME
Oh my GOD
Oh man I super lost track of time, I just got so into the game guess I'll end this session here, kinda puzzled on where I need to go next since I cleared all the rooms in the RPD... I do have a blue gem though
craggy vine
I sometimes wonder why L4D2 is so popular with some people having over 1000 hours... Cause like, there is very little base game content
Especially when you consider what L4D2 added itself, not including the first game's content
chilly mural
mods
thorny loom
Especially when you consider what L4D2 added itself, not including the first gam...
Custom campaigns
arctic fern
even with mods i find the core gameplay to be mediocre at best
later hoard shooters are better as they were able to refine l4d2s mechanics, i much prefer playing back for blood and darktide
craggy vine
Heh, a lot of people prefer L4D2 over back for blood
I love the gameplay of L4D2, just always felt like there isn't much content there.
arctic fern
i gennuinely dont not understand that
like, genuine "does not compute"
craggy vine
They think it is worse and has less care put into the game
arctic fern
how
craggy vine
There are videos showing it
arctic fern
l4d2 literally has a level from l4d1 that has an infinite hoard coming from a saferoom added in later
it was a stupid idea that made the level incredibly unfun for no reason
bleak lintel
L4D2 is 14 years old now.
arctic fern
and it shows
craggy vine
l4d2 literally has a level from l4d1 that has an infinite hoard coming from a sa...
I find that stuff sorta fun
Just infinite hoards
quiet swift
(Horde?)
thorny loom
Also the whole card gimmick system
L4d really comes down to how good you are. While b4b can be cheeses super easily with the right card setups
And is almost mandatory on higher difficulties
craggy vine
Payday 2 is my favourite hoard shooter
craggy vine
Yess
craggy vine
l4d2 literally has a level from l4d1 that has an infinite hoard coming from a sa...
I literally just played that
Gotta try the add on content, see what it is like
arctic fern
Payday 2 is my favourite hoard shooter
Payday 2 does so much right
arctic fern
L4d really comes down to how good you are. While b4b can be cheeses super easil...
Yeah, that's... That's how the game is designed? It lets you specialize and rewards you for smart choices, and the harder difficulties are scaled to match that
And yes, it lets players who are less good at the game have fun
For example, I'm absolutely terrible, so I specialise in support and boosted my medical efficiency to the max
They also changed the card system when they added the no hope difficulty mode, so you get all of your cards from the start now
real panther
Payday 2 does so much right
that soundtracks in that game are really amazing
my personal favourite is this
quiet swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBBfMXzZZns oh no, carbot no
thorny loom
They also changed the card system when they added the no hope difficulty mode, s...
Havent played since that update but good to know
minor plover
Original l4d was so much better than l4d2
icy crescent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBBfMXzZZns oh no, carbot no
i bet he only tried once 
quiet swift
I mean five minutes is all he needs to get enough to make that video
icy crescent
I've wasted 700h in the first warzone and I've had enough 
rough sleet
green fulcrum
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JLNb5igsirA
Literally the only reason why the devs would add this is so that people could watch the NPCs eat.
Creeps, lol.
rough sleet
Literally the only reason why the devs would add this is so that people could wa...
sims players be like:
fresh bane
They think it is worse and has less care put into the game
it's true
I actually remember playing the beta for back 4 blood back when it was free and it's not bad, but I did find that something was missing especially in comparison to l4d2, it just didn't feel as good nor nearly as charming or appealing
I definitely don't feel like l4d2 is mediocre in the slightest and the gameplay loop might be simplistic but it's insanely fun especially online with friends, even with randoms
river veldt
i just like l4d2 because funny mods
chilly mural
same
picking up a pipe bomb and hearing morshu say "bombs?" will never not make me laugh
river veldt
you want it it's yours my friend as long as you have enough rubies
fresh bane
and that's why l4d2 is still king, the fact that people remember that type of stuff and are so charmed by the game and the characters
it's just fun, and it works, and it's great
I remember being super put off by the whole card system and the store in b4b
I just want to boot the game up, get in a match and just go and kill zombies, I don't wanna buy weapons? I wanna pick them up from the ground, and I don't wanna spend hours learning about cards and making decks if I mess up and die then it's my fault it shouldn't be because I didn't grind enough to get that one card I need
It kinda feels like the devs didn't have enough confidence that they'd be able to recreate the simplistic but fun gameplay loop of l4d and crammed and shoved a bunch of systems to make the experience 'deeper'
visual hill
many assets from L4D2 ended up as-is in CS:GO, though some were replaced in the long run (like the G3SG1's sound)
chilly mural
grabbin pills!
fresh bane
weapons here!
minor plover
Taaaaank!
quiet swift
blues starts playing
minor plover
Grabbin a witch!
... Louis no!
fresh bane
Just hang on, let me heal ya
We got a Boomer!
I wonder if I have any mlp mods in my l4d2
fresh bane
woah, dark 
slim thorn
true, but I feel like this line of reasoning comes up in every other zombie story (e.g. I'm 90% sure it was in an RE1 journal somewhere)
if you aren't equipped to be a protagonist and actually get away from it, that's kinda your only option
fresh bane
the moment you realize you are NOT the protagonist in this zombie story
well either that or do like the guy at the beginning of the game and just lock yourself somewhere and wait for help
or until everything dies down
slim thorn
who only appears on-screen if the plot intends to kill them too
fresh bane
I guess it's a good thing that something like a zombie apocalypse wouldn't realistically be possible
that just isn't how dead bodies work
slim thorn
or super viruses, or super molds, or cordyceps
that totally is how bioresonance works though, we're screwed if aliens figured that out
fresh bane
hmmm bioresonance?
slim thorn
Signalis?
fresh bane
I was thinking of that but I wasn't sure if you were referring to that
I gotta say I still don't fully know how that worked
slim thorn
(probably also Dead Space, they both boil down to artificial telepathy made by not-regular-humans, even if DS didn't give the tech a name)
fresh bane
something something frequencies and mind control-ish
fresh bane
a couple streamers actually realized that and made jokes about it
Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, Death Stranding, Dead Space
slim thorn
that was also a TLoU reference lol
river veldt
is cordyceps the ant o ne
fresh bane
oh man I totally forgot about TLOU
although it's not technically zombies it's the same type of thing, maybe even worse...
thorny loom
is cordyceps the ant o ne
not just ants but the most famous infects ants yes
apparently someplaces eat them
fresh bane
is cordyceps the one that makes the isnect grow all the fungus all over its body and they become super fuzzy/almost crystalized looking?
because I remember seeing that one before and jesus christ it's absolutely disturbing
slim thorn
sounds right
quiet swift
Yes
It's a fungus that controls not the nervous system but apparently the motor function of the ant to get them as high up as possible, then burrows through them forming a sort of stem, which then bursts into spores
dire gate
quiet swift
fresh bane
wooooooo 
I got the gun parts!
les gooo
Jesus christ this game makes you feel so powerful but then rips that illusion right away as soon as you hear a door open behind you and then "STAAAARSSS"
And right before you know it you got this massive dude beelining it straight sprinting towards you with a fist with your name on it
visual hill
this level in DNF2001 is oddly familiar… 👀
fresh bane
oh hey look the area that got super duper cut out of the remake
untold vigil
THAT MAKES ME SO MAD
it's such a good area
man the 3 remake was a fucking mess
apart from how hot jill is because DAMN
untold vigil
Listen
We don't pit women against each other
we lift each other up
Both can be banger jills
It's the two cakes dialed to 13
fresh bane
Not pitting them against each other just stating my preference
untold vigil
fresh bane
The fact that I didn't fully enjoy Jill in the remake is probably part of the reason why I also still prefer Julia appearances aside
untold vigil
I liked how bitchy she was
I could relate
Jill herself was the one part of that that didn't suck
Plus carlos i guess
I liked him way better
fresh bane
Her being bitchy is what made me dislike her a bit, I get the reasoning but now that I'm actually playing through the original RE3 I see how Jill, while being super angry that Umbrella is ''helping'', she recognizes these mercs have nothing to do with it so she puts her emotions aside because it's not helping
in the remake she's always super bitchy even when the mercs clearly have no idea what's happening and want to help out
untold vigil
Eh, it's a tense situation
And she hasn't slept in like a month
She was relatable!
I'd be mean
It's longer actually it's 3 months
between re1 and re2
fresh bane
Her demeanor is still not great even though both Jills are initially angry and then kinda come around the remake one is still super unlikable to me at least for these specific interactions, it's really awkward to see Jill being super bitchy when she agrees to help and says like ''I'm on THEIR side, not YOURS'' and Carlos is like ''uhhh yeah we all want the same thing anyways'' especially when Mikhail gives an earnest thank you to Jill and all that combined makes Jill look like the biggest asshole in the room
untold vigil
I'm the biggest asshoel in the room frequently
I like seeing representation in the media 
You're not wrong, I'll clarify
I just actively like when girls are allowed to be the asshole
fresh bane
I guess but I just think it's slightly off for the character who is meant to be the hero to be the biggest most unlikable asshole... at least in those scenes, remake Jill does come around after a while but as you start off she always has that bitchy smug tone with everyone she talks to
The only one that makes sense to talk this way is Nikolai because THAT guy is a monster for sure
untold vigil
Yeah he's a major tool
shrug
I guess I see it as
Lots of male heroes are allowed to be assholes and still be heroes, but female heroines are generally not given that same liniency
fresh bane
I dunno I guess I've never seen that happening myself, whenever a character is being an asshole for no reason I get the same feeling, male or not
untold vigil
It's not a reflection on you specifically
More on
existance
It's the vriska principle, as it's known
craggy vine
i just like l4d2 because funny mods
You walk through the Pinkie Pie infested forrest when suddenly, you hear Markiplier shout "Fuck you!"
river veldt
Lots of male heroes are allowed to be assholes and still be heroes, but female h...
I've seen this too
craggy vine
Also the last l4d2 campaign and some of the l4d1 campaigns are really boring. Like the last l4d2 campaign you just walk through a forrest. There is nothing memerable like the others.
fresh bane
It's the vriska principle, as it's known
I'm not sure what you mean or what that is
untold vigil
Thats fair
river veldt
Vriska is a Homestuck character
fresh bane
I dunno, I just find RE3R Jill less likeable for a couple reasons, so far I'm enjoying the original RE3 Jill, although the original games definitely don't flesh out characters or have as much story focus as the remakes of course
I did get a great optional scene with Mikhail where he fights zombies and Jill reprimands him for having a death wish and they talk about his survivor's guilt over not being able to save his men, that was nice
Kinda wish that was in the remake, the remake feels a lot more on-rails than the original game which oddly enough? feels like an open world game
untold vigil
Yeah that
That is really frustrating
RE3 was really fun and clever that way
Stuff was randomized and yo could go anywhere
river veldt
what even happens in RE3
untold vigil
Jill has a heroes journey
fresh bane
I did notice the randomization in the RPD because I reloaded the save file and instead of the magnum I got the grenade launcher
river veldt
ooh
fresh bane
which made me extremely confused
fresh bane
RE3 details the beginning and end of the zombie invasion in Racoon City
You start 1 day before RE2 and it ends 1 day after RE2
river veldt
ranomd
quiet swift
river veldt
hehe
untold vigil
don't quote me
quiet swift
river veldt
tale on a scale of 1 to yeah how drunk are you
fresh bane
it's also hilarious how much of an actual threat Nemy is on the original compared to the remake
untold vigil
quiet swift
google says arknights?
untold vigil
it's also hilarious how much of an actual threat Nemy is on the original compare...
YES
visual hill
cat ears give +5 cuteness
fresh bane
in the remake not only does Jill have an insane degree of action hero plot armor, surviving tons of explosions and falls of great heights, but many times Nemesis actually has Jill by the neck or the entire head, and he doesn't just... pop her head right then and there? He just kinda shoves her back in the ground and gives her a chance to run
river veldt
who is nemesis
fresh bane
I didn't like that at all, I get it she's meant to be a super cop but it just makes her seem like her luck stat is pumped to the maximum
in the original game Nemesis can fuck you up really bad
fresh bane
like, really really bad
river veldt
Horse ears actually
even better
untold vigil
and yes she's from arknights
river veldt
is arknights one of those waifu collector gacha games
fresh bane
speaking of horse ears I always liked this horse girl
untold vigil
cute
fresh bane
untold vigil
ass
chilly mural
naginata/pole weapon women have a grip on me
untold vigil
All women- never mind
untold vigil
Nice
fresh bane
river veldt
All women- never mind
true
untold vigil
I'm into it
chilly mural
river veldt
i love when women
untold vigil
One of my favorite arknights things is that
Everyone love kal'tsit
Like so much
When she's just
a grumpy green cat
river veldt
kal'tsit?
untold vigil
chilly mural
untold vigil
She's a grumpy green cat!
river veldt
why she grump
untold vigil
She wears a suit once and a girl falls in love with her so hard she starts a revolution in her name
river veldt
i see
fresh bane
https://derpibooru.org/images/2665275
wishing EQG was like Uma Musume
chilly mural
same
fresh bane
I like that Goldship's attitude is directly taken from the real Goldship who is apparently super wacky and weird
chilly mural
all the uma musume girls will
fresh bane
I'm gonna stop my session now that I reached the clock tower but RE3 good is very good
gud gaem
untold vigil
It's very good
fresh bane
once I finish it I miiight just replay RE1R again just so I can unlock the gorgeous RE3 costume
chilly mural
river veldt
what's her normal outfit