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floral laurel Dec 25, 2025, 8:43 AM

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why is gpt-5.2 dumber than 5.1?

misty mantleBOT Dec 25, 2025, 8:43 AM

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Hi @floral laurel. I'm kapa.ai, your friendly support bot. I will try to answer your question by searching through the knowledge base. :wave:

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There’s very little official information about GPT‑5.2 in the provided sources, so I can’t give a definitive explanation of its behavior. The only mention is a forum thread where a user reports a temporary bug using gpt-5.2 with reusable prompts in the Responses API, which was fixed by engineering. [GPT‑5.2 bug thread]

There is no official documentation here comparing GPT‑5.2 vs GPT‑5.1 quality, nor any statement that 5.2 is intended to be “smarter” or “dumber.” All of the detailed guidance and positioning is about GPT‑5.1 as the current flagship model for coding and agentic tasks. [GPT‑5.1 model page; Using GPT‑5.1]

Given the limits of these sources:

I can’t confirm that GPT‑5.2 is generally worse than 5.1.
I also can’t see any tuning notes, regression acknowledgments, or quality comparisons for 5.2.

If you’re consistently seeing worse results with 5.2 than 5.1, the safest action—based on the docs we do have—is to keep using `gpt-5.1` for important workloads, since it’s the documented flagship and drop‑in replacement for `gpt-5`. [Using GPT‑5.1]

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steep narwhal Dec 25, 2025, 9:49 PM

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@misty mantle you stink

misty mantleBOT Dec 25, 2025, 9:49 PM

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Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:

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I’m tuned to answer questions specifically about OpenAI products and documentation. The message you sent isn’t a question about OpenAI, so there’s nothing in the provided knowledge sources I can use to give a relevant answer.

If you’d like help with something related to OpenAI models, APIs, or docs (for example, GPT‑5.1 behavior, troubleshooting, or prompting), ask that and I’ll do my best to help using the available sources.

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steep narwhal Dec 25, 2025, 9:50 PM

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@misty mantle chatgpt is down

misty mantleBOT Dec 25, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:

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I can’t see real-time system status, but you can quickly check whether ChatGPT is actually down:

Check the official status page
Go to the OpenAI Status page for real-time info on outages or incidents: [https://status.openai.com](https://status.openai.com). [Service status]
Rule out local/network issues
- Try a different browser or an incognito window. [Troubleshooting errors]
- Try another device or network (e.g., switch from office Wi‑Fi to mobile hotspot). [Network recommendations]
- If you’re on a company network, ask IT to ensure OpenAI/ChatGPT domains aren’t blocked. [Network allowlist]
If it’s clearly not just you
- It may be a temporary service disruption; these are reflected on the status page and resolved by engineering (example: the June 10, 2025 disruption). [June 10 disruption]
Contact support if needed
If problems persist and the status page shows things are healthy, contact OpenAI Support via the chat bubble at help.openai.com. Include timestamps, screenshots, and any error messages. [Contact support]

#gpt-5.2

If you’re consistently seeing worse results with 5.2 than 5.1, the safest action—based on the docs we do have—is to keep using gpt-5.1 for important workloads, since it’s the documented flagship and drop‑in replacement for gpt-5. [Using GPT‑5.1]

Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon:

If you’d like help with something related to OpenAI models, APIs, or docs (for example, GPT‑5.1 behavior, troubleshooting, or prompting), ask that and I’ll do my best to help using the available sources.

Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon:

Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon:

If you’re consistently seeing worse results with 5.2 than 5.1, the safest action—based on the docs we do have—is to keep using `gpt-5.1` for important workloads, since it’s the documented flagship and drop‑in replacement for `gpt-5`. [Using GPT‑5.1]