#gpt4 vs 4o vs 4o mini vs 3.5

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sonic cedar
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Compared to the previous free model, gpt 3.5 how intelligent is gpt4 4o-mini? And compared to 4o and 4-Turbo, where would it be ranked?
And is there as much free messages on 4o mini than what was on 3.5 ?

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GPT-4o mini is a more capable and cost-efficient model compared to GPT-3.5 Turbo. It surpasses GPT-3.5 Turbo and other small models on academic benchmarks across both textual intelligence and multimodal reasoning. It also supports the same range of languages as GPT-4o and demonstrates strong performance in function calling and improved long-context performance compared to GPT-3.5 Turbo source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6825453-chatgpt-release-notes).

Compared to GPT-4o and GPT-4 Turbo, GPT-4o mini is optimized for speed and cost. It is recommended for use cases that require the fastest speed and lowest cost. However, if your use case requires high intelligence or reasoning about images as well as text, GPT-4o is recommended as it is both faster and cheaper than GPT-4 Turbo source (https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/text-generation).

In terms of free messages, GPT-4o Plus users have 5x the rate limits of free users with 80 messages every three hours, while free users have maybe 15 messages source (https://community.openai.com/t/764353). Users on the Free tier will be defaulted to GPT-4o with a limit on the number of messages they can send using GPT-4o, which will vary based on current usage and demand. When unavailable, Free tier users will be switched back to GPT-4o mini source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4-gpt-4-turbo-gpt-4o-and-gpt-4o-mini#h_f6a24d9dd8). The exact number of free messages for GPT-4o mini is not specified in the provided sources.

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sonic cedar
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@burnt comet for storytelling, which is best?

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For storytelling, it's generally recommended to use the latest and most capable models, as they tend to be easier to prompt engineer and can generate more creative and advanced responses source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6654000-best-practices-for-prompt-engineering-with-the-openai-api#h_ad50145be0).

In this case, GPT-4o is described as the latest, fastest, and highest intelligence model source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4-gpt-4-turbo-gpt-4o-and-gpt-4o-mini#h_7faba486a2). It also has a large context length of 128k, which is equivalent to an average to longer novel. This means it can maintain a longer narrative thread, which can be beneficial for storytelling.

However, the best model for you would also depend on your specific requirements, such as the length and complexity of the story, the need for multimodal inputs and outputs, and cost considerations. You can experiment with different models in the playground (https://platform.openai.com/playground?mode=chat) to see which one best suits your needs.

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