#Do rate limited api calls cost money?

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limber pike
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If I make an assistant call and it responds with 429 rate limited, will I be charged for this api call ?

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Yes, all API usage, including those that result in a rate limit error (429), is paid and charged by the amount of data transferred, usually measured in language tokens (source (https://community.openai.com/t/548748)). This means that if you make an API call and it responds with a 429 rate limit error, you will still be charged for that API call.

To avoid unnecessary costs and to manage your rate limits effectively, it's recommended to pace your requests and avoid making unnecessary or redundant calls. If you are using a loop or a script, make sure to implement a backoff mechanism or a retry logic that respects the rate limit and the response headers (source (https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/error-codes)).

You can view the rate and usage limits for your organization under the limits section of your account settings (source (https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/rate-limits)). If you hit your monthly usage limit for the API, or for prepaid credits customers that you've consumed all your credits, you can view your maximum usage limit on the limits page and consider upgrading to a paid plan to get higher limits (source (https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/error-codes)).

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limber pike
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@tardy mural is ratelimiting done at a user level, org level or api key level?
What I mean to ask is if I rotate my keys can I bypass ratelimiting ?

tardy muralBOT
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Rate limiting is applied at the organization level, not at the user or API key level (source (https://community.openai.com/t/568989)). This means that all API keys under the same organization share the same rate limit. Therefore, rotating your keys will not help bypass rate limiting.

If you belong to multiple organizations with different billing plans and usage tiers, you can change your default organization to control which organization is used by default when making requests with your API keys (source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6891753-what-are-the-best-practices-for-managing-my-rate-limits-in-the-api#h_7bf9150667)).

If you're hitting your rate limits frequently, you might want to consider increasing your usage tier, which can increase your rate limits (source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6843909-rate-limits-and-429-too-many-requests-errors)).

Remember, it's important to monitor your account usage and rotate your keys when needed to ensure the safety of your account (source (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/5112595-best-practices-for-api-key-safety#h_30245ee8fa)).

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limber pike
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@tardy mural if I’ve two orgs, if I create an assistant with the api key of one org can I access that assistant with the api key of another org?

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No, you cannot access an assistant created with the API key of one organization using the API key of another organization. An API key with write access to the /assistants API will be able to access all assistants that are part of the organization that the API key belongs to (source (https://community.openai.com/t/689437)).

Furthermore, Assistants, Threads, Messages, and Vector Stores created via the API are scoped to the Project they're created in. Any person with API key access to that Project is able to read or write Assistants, Threads, Messages, and Runs in the Project (source (https://platform.openai.com/docs/assistants/how-it-works)).

If you need to access an assistant from a different organization, you would need to use an API key that belongs to that organization. If you're trying to access a fine-tuned model, make sure that the API keys you’re using to make calls belong to the respective organization whose fine-tuned model you’re trying to access, and not your personal organization (source (https://community.openai.com/t/707056)).

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