#Rolling usage cap?

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tough laurel
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Is there any official documentation for the GPT-4 usage cap on Plus regarding whether it's a rolling usage cap, or whether it resets every 3 hours?

surreal basaltBOT
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Yes, there is official documentation regarding the GPT-4 usage cap for ChatGPT Plus subscribers. According to the information provided, the usage cap for GPT-4 access on ChatGPT Plus is set at 40 messages every 3 hours. It is important to note that unused messages do not accumulate. This means if you wait longer than the 3-hour window, you will not have additional messages available for use in the next 3-hour period. For example, if you wait 6 hours, you will not have 80 messages available; the cap remains at 40 messages for every 3-hour window.

This information clarifies that the usage cap does not roll over or accumulate unused messages but instead resets every 3 hours.

For more details, you can refer to the official documentation here (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4).

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tough laurel
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@surreal basalt To clarify: by "rolling usage cap" I meant a user gets each usage back individually, 3 hours after its initial use. In other words: if I use all 40 uses in 30 minutes, I'll need to wait 2.5 hours to use it again, but after that 2.5 hours, do I get all 40 back immediately, or do I get them back individually, 3 hours after each respective use?

surreal basaltBOT
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Based on the information provided in the extracts, there is no specific mention of how the usage cap replenishes for GPT-4 access on ChatGPT Plus—whether it's on a rolling basis for each individual use or if all 40 messages reset at once after a 3-hour period. The documentation simply states that there is a rate limit of 40 messages every 3 hours and does not delve into the specifics of how the cap is replenished.

Therefore, I don't know enough to give you a confident answer yet on whether the GPT-4 usage cap for ChatGPT Plus operates on a rolling basis or resets in bulk after the 3-hour window.

For the most accurate and up-to-date information, it's best to consult the official OpenAI documentation or support directly. You can find more details and possibly get clarification on this matter by visiting the OpenAI Help Center: OpenAI Help Center (https://help.openai.com/).

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tough laurel
vague zephyr
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yea, I cannot tell tbh. I rarely hit the GPT4 limit

tough laurel
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When I have, it tells me the time I have to wait until, and then when I use it again at that time, if I try it another time shortly after, it gives me a new time to wait until (usually just a few more min). This suggests a rolling cap I think.