Poetica - Experimental Poetry OS

[river forum]

hihi sooo as you might have noticed chatGPT has an awful tendency to revert to using quatrains and pretty basic poetry structures. Poetica was designed using the SuperPrompt and Quicksilver OS to help users create more diverse and meaningful poems. without guidance it will still tend that way as well as with undefined randoms. use the word "experimental" and more complex poetical techniques.

this is kind of just proof of concept and see Poetica as a collaborator, a type of medium (like the beats and their typewriters) for creation and reflection (because poetry obvi).

i have a working model for 3.5, i will share too and maybe that can help clue you on a different approach/other ways to create the poetry you are interested in! for me a lot of it stems from point chatGPT 3.5 towards the poetry of ee cummings and it revealed to me that referencing burroughs and william carlos williams can also help as well as listing complex poetical styles for techniques.

not really sure of the emergent properties or how long it stays steady for. sometimes you need to refer it back to the appendixes or run /inquiry or /reflection to see if all the parameters were checked.

i don't think using non-rhyming in the rhyme option works nor does saying something like 3-5 stanzas. honestly, idk half the time why it does output x or output y but oscar wilde says something about spending all morning putting a comma in only to spend all afternoon taking a comma out. anyway, loading it up with poetical techniques (rhyming itself is a poetical technique) seems to help.

editing the input and rephrasing can do wonders too.

wild that the ai language learning model excels at poetry when you use complex poetical terms🤪

oh, the other thing to note is my poem output is in the terminal because that was the best way i found for Poetica to play with line spacing and fragmentation. if you are doing any prose, i think saying /disable /pp should turn off the parameter in the appendix to output the poem with ```

for styles and techniques (and idk if it can do all of these), try some examples: found poem, visual poem, concrete poem, "experimental" {another type} poem; polysemy, olipo constraints, parataxis, wordplay

i'm still unsure if including these words in the prompt influences the outcome or not, or would allow for an easier experience, go ahead and try!

remember revision and experimentation is pivotal to create meaningful poetry ^-^

[gloomy dune]

Your txt file looks like a broken link to google docs... you might need to add the prompt as a text file again.

[river forum]

oh bugger not sure what happened. ty. it doesn't look like i can edit an attachment into op either now =/

this is a version with sesquipedalian, might make all of the poem too highfalutin though

[river forum]

these are some templates from 3.5. from my understanding, 3.5 doesn't do as well with handling the more compy-prompt but the rewrite of poetica using QuickSilver OS seems to do alright, poetica3.5compy. included all of them because who knows what might strike inspiration

[woven mural]

This is absolutely amazing, I used your prompt as a jumping off point for ShaperOS - an experimental world building prompt. With your permission I'd like to post what I have so far to the prompt-library to share with others.

[split girder]

interesting

[river forum]

heck yeah! i was only able to create this with the help of Quicksilver and the Quicksilver OS and SuperPrompt. who knows where any of this is going! use it however you desire and share as you feel called

[gloomy dune]

This is great! How well does it work in 3.5? It worked really well in GPT4 but my only issue with that is all the questions can eat up the request limit of GPT4 pretty quickly.

[river forum]

I think I attached some test prompts of a 3.5 version, in the following post but it really is hit or miss what it chooses to do! sometimes I'll change one thing and it will go back to rhyming quatrains(I've got to the point where i completely glaze over when this happens). sometimes asking it to reflect if parameters were met will give a better rewrite, sometimes editing the syntax and resubmitting is the way to go. but it is poetry so reflection for all parties is part of the process 💃

for 4, if you know what you want to craft or have a vague idea use

/p parameters formatted as seen in appendix one, separated by semicolons /write

if you only have some of the parameters, it might ask you for more so i use unspecified. and too many of some parameters seem to overwhelm it.

you can also use something like /generate 15 poem parameters formatted in /p

overall it just depends what type of poetry you are trying to create. I tried to design this specifically around using line breaks and different stanza amounts since I was so sick of finagling. so don't know all the ways it can go.

but yeah it still takes a bit of that, just had a time trying to get a 3 stanza poem in ABBCAA, the closest I could get was AAABCC, with feedback and revision. 🤷‍♀️

I think sometimes author style or reference work can butt heads against other parameters and not quite sure how different things are weighted.

[static compass]

I love it

[fierce creek]

Will try out some of these suggestions. The poetry abilities of GPT4 are pretty impressive to me. I’m gonna see if I can get Billy Collins to take a look at this.

[river forum]

here is one it wrote about the possibilities with an ai poetry os (or itself as i phrased it), attached is part of the explanation for each line since i dont know all of those languages lol

here is something using the simple prompt from 3.5 but i had to tell it 'make sure all the parameters are followed'

with some playing and direction on technique to:

[river forum]

gosh i've been so up and up and writing poetry and experimenting with this thing, i haven't really revised it all. might make a video soon showing the process. but i use /fr (which is feedback & revision)) in combination with /pt (poem techniques)

applying oulipo constraints asking for euphonious ordering, nonsensical (or sensical) releases, antithetical forms, techniques, themes, words. putting things into extremes.

when it doesn't behave according to all parameters, ill usually use /inquiry

basically a lot of what i'm trying to do now is break out and play with different classifications of words and allow it levels of tying together abstract concepts

while it can handle just general requests in natural languages it seems putting these requests into command-line language or blending the two yield better results

here's the first part of a 5 image poem using the following input:

"/write experimental visual; word fragmentation, anaphora, repetition, 4-5 shifts, {5 randomized techniques}; connection between individuals, nature, and the cosmos; contemplative, awe-inspiring; T.S. Eliot, William Carlos Williams; none; 15 stanzas, variable amounts of lines;"