chatgpt-discussions

[tardy girder]

does microsoft have its own AI model already?

[dusky cliff]

and microsoft gets back to being the most relevant tech corp

just follow all the drama at the subreddit r/singularity

[tardy girder]

sure thanks

[dusky cliff]

most welcome

[obtuse geode]

There are certainly extensive contractual clauses between OpenAI and Microsoft. If a model needs to be re-trained from the ground up (without going back to the other open source models), Microsoft will certainly do it internally or through this new company. GPT-4 is not open source.

[dusky cliff]

prolly, but that will take at least a few months, I guess

[tardy girder]

fair point. But does microsoft have a model thats public?

like as of now

[obtuse geode]

it's still locked to scale plus registration boom.

[dusky cliff]

I don't think so, but thay have a share on GPT-4, I guess, remember, the first app using GPT-4 back earlier this year was bing

[obtuse geode]

I didn't hear that plus reg was re-opened, was it ?

[eternal geyser]

Damn, that was sly... OpenAI also just lost almost all their compute, as MSFT will hand that over to Sam now haha

[chilly whale]

So how long until OpenAI's ChatGPT stops working? How many employees do they require to keep it running, and how many of those are leaving for Microsoft?

[eternal geyser]

Export your chats lads...

[dusky cliff]

it's total chaos

[obtuse geode]

I think they have some. But you know we'll not heard from it unless it's on the market. Microsoft can be very ... secret

[tardy girder]

ye they have copilot

but its not public atm

[dusky cliff]

Ilya is publicly apologising for all the mess he caused

[obtuse geode]

Recall that it's estimated that it took 90–100 days to train GPT-4. That's 90 or 100 * 24 = 2,160 to 2,600 hours per server.

[dusky cliff]

that guy was sipposed to be a genius, what happened?

[obtuse geode]

$$$

[dusky cliff]

this is the fastest titanic sinking ever

[obtuse geode]

OpenAI is NOT sinking, yet today.

[dusky cliff]

"this is fine"

[patent nova]

Gordon Lightfoot could (if alive) write a song about this. "The Wreck of the OpenAI"

"Fellas is been good to know ya"

[dusky cliff]

some people just enjoy watching Rome burning, I guess

[obtuse geode]

"We can give a good estimate of the amount of compute they used given what they leaked. The supercomputer has tens of thousands of A100s (25k according to the JP Morgan note), and they trained firstly GPT-3.5 on it I year ago and then GPT-4. They also say that they finish the training of GPT-4 in August, that gives a 3-4 months max training time.

25k GPUs A100s * 300 TFlop/s dense FP16 * 50% peak efficiency * 90 days * 86400 is roughly 3e25 flops, which is almost 10x Palm and 100x Chinchilla/GPT-3."

[eternal geyser]

Emmett is epic doomer that says he is pro-tech, pro-tech and AI aren't the same thing. He fears having to step down as the most intelligent being that 'should' exist in the universe it seems. You know like, something that could cure cancer.

[eternal geyser]

I said that to my gf also haha

[dusky cliff]

maybe putting yudkowski at the board as well?

lol

[eternal geyser]

OpenAI wont need 90% of the remaining of their force at the lobotomised production speed Emmett will enforce anyway 🙂

[odd flint]

Who knows when ? We only know that when the war is between money and ethics, money always wins. Of course, Microsoft didn't hired Sam Altman and all OpenAI people to play with toys. They want to get ahead on AI before everyone else. This was a great step for them. They have all technical infrastructure, and they are working on biggest building ever, to keep the leadership in supercomputers, and win the battle. They are not interested in small things, but to fastly employ AI on their products and business. Everything is about business in this world. Unfortunately. 👍

[eternal geyser]

he said out of 10, they should be going 1. That is 90%, everything makes sense now.

[obtuse geode]

Microsoft built a 10,000 GPU system for open AI to train GPT 3.5 and then gpt4. Yes it was already Microsoft.

[dusky cliff]

maybe now we'll get GPT-5 ( or the microsoft name for it ) faster

AGI here we go

[sharp dome]

Breaking: Sam Altman just announced on X that he will go back to OpenAI as CEO. Check X guys

[dusky cliff]

really?

[sharp dome]

Yes go check

[dusky cliff]

lies

[soft parcel]

Na he didn’t

[dusky cliff]

that guy is lying, just a prank

[odd flint]

Exactly. Why Microsoft would need to continue allowing their servers to be used by OpenAI ? Perhaps some, due to the contract. But don't expect an upgrade, more servers... They now will be directed towards their new AI sector, developed by Altman and his team. I won't be surprised if a few weeks from now this new sector would equal and surpass GPT4 on Microsoft. The guys may try to reproduce and outpace GPT4 certainly. And it won't take long, with the new team. 👍

[chilly whale]

Gentlemen & ladies, it has been a privilege generating with you all on OpenAI services. I hope to see you all again at the next incarnation of cutting edge AI, if you survive the sinking 🫡 🎻 💀

[dusky cliff]

ladies and gentlemen, we are living in the future now, we passes the singularity treshold

[odd flint]

Yes, he practically "destroyed" OoenAI with this terrible mistake. How a man supposedly developing AGI cannot predict his own actions consequences 3 days from now ? Unforgivable.

[dusky cliff]

biggest mistake near the end of history

[agile summit]

wait what happened?

[dusky cliff]

OpenAi is imploding

[odd flint]

It's a lie. I went there now and saw nothing. The last message from Sam are some hearts ❤️❤️❤️ considering the apologize Illya Sutskever posted.

[dusky cliff]

I told you

[chilly whale]

Its a K-Class "End of OpenAI" Scenario

[agile summit]

why?

[devout hamlet]

Hello guys

[dusky cliff]

basically Ilya wanted to do his little coup agaisnst Sam and he got underfoot

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[topaz ocean]

You guys think openai will collapse now?

[dusky cliff]

yes

[devout hamlet]

Gpt is cool right

[chilly whale]

You should plan for that to happen if you currently rely on their services in any way

[dusky cliff]

definitely yes

if you rely on their API for anything just consider alternatives

[eternal geyser]

Ilya might have wanted Sam demoted - and the board just went ape instead haha.

[dusky cliff]

not even demoted, but fired

[odd flint]

I wouldn't say "collapse", but it's losing most capable guys to the new Microsoft AI team. And OpenAI doesn't have servers infrastructure even to run all the subscribed people. Do you think that Microsoft will give more servers to Openai instead of doing their own thing ?

[eternal geyser]

His regret post make it seem like he might not have tried to get Sam fired fired, but removed from being 'dangerous' in his mind - but it spiralled perhaps. Anyway, Netflix might tell us one day

[topaz ocean]

I really dislike that the development of the technology itself will suffer due to political issues

[dusky cliff]

maybe not

[hexed ore]

how long before chat gpt falls apart?

[loud night]

I’m sure it’ll last awhile, im not too concerned about it

[hexed ore]

i dont want to move over to Microsoft Edge's co-pilot

it isnt nearly as fun to use as chat gpt

[dusky cliff]

maybe now we'll get lewds

[loud night]

About chatgpt, does anyone know how to get Bing chat to put prompts into the image maker like chatgpt does where it uses the context to write a prompt without using the exact text?

[odd flint]

This whole thing is good for AI. This event will slow down GPT development on OpenAI, and eventually, the open sources projects and other enterprises will soon surpass GPT4. We already have many optn sources options, and they are getting better and better by the day... ❤️

[hexed ore]

what open source options?

the only thing that can compete with chat gpt right now is co-pilot and nothing else even comes close

[dusky cliff]

that's so true, are you folowing mythomax?

or Pi

[hexed ore]

doesnt the creative mode use gpt 4?

[dusky cliff]

the good thing refered by @odd flint is that now the small and uncensored LLMs will catch up faster

[hexed ore]

which ones?

[dusky cliff]

you have many, I would advice mythomax

some of them you can even run locally

[odd flint]

Go to GitHub and Hugging face, and you'll discover thousands of LLMs, which some can be run even locally, on your own machine. The latest are better than GPT 3.5 👍

[dusky cliff]

oh yeah

[mortal spindle]

Why is OpenAI still only returning 2 images with DallE

[loud night]

I wish we can just keep chatgpt and have it stay at the crazy improvement speed

[mortal spindle]

it's not free tho

[obtuse geode]

I used GPT4 everyday and I feel a lot of diff vs 3.5.

[azure sundial]

OpenAI is developing so fast that it may reshape the division of labor in society. This will be disastrous for unprepared people. I think many people will be eliminated as a result.

[mortal spindle]

I disagree but it's ok

[odd flint]

Exactly. They will catch up faster and faster. The latest ones are already better than GPT 3.5 and you can run for free on your computer or smartphone. I won't be surprised if Microsoft now, with Sam Altman launch an improved ChatGPT version some days or weeks from now. The more, the better for the consumer, and I think the future belongs to open source models. 👍

[dusky cliff]

the future looks good for the customer and for humanity at large

[dusky cliff]

⏫

[odd flint]

The future does not belong to OpenAI anymore ! There are thousands of LLMs out there...

[dusky cliff]

oh yeah

[bold fossil]

MS just hired him lol

[azure sundial]

Only openai understands openai, what you see from the outside is always the appearance.

[mortal spindle]

name one better than OpenAI rn

[odd flint]

Currently, there are some better in respective areas, coding, image generation, automation, memory, text to speech, speech to text. Now, if you mean text generation, GPT 4 turbo is the best for now. For Now. With Sam Altman and all the guys now on Microsoft, this will change sooner than you think. And just now, there are many open source LLMs which are better than GPT 3.5 👍

[warm totem]

there are some decent open source model, but honestly, who think one of these can compete with the datacenters at disposal of open ai ? It's not some rtx 4090 in a personal computer

even with the technology, the open sources model will always be, imho, less powerful than companies model for this reason.

[obtuse geode]

Mira Murati left too ? I didn't knew that

a thought for the remaining OPenAI employees

[odd flint]

How did you know that, please ?

[loud night]

On a positive note, it still works

[odd flint]

Now you don't need an RTX 4090 to run an LLM locally. The new models, even Dolphin 7b can run on a simple computer, using RAM. Not VRAM. Who would imagine months before that now anyone could run even uncensored LLMs locally on a desktop or a notebook ? It's becoming easier and powerful.

[round sun]

what was chatgpt built with? Not referring to the ai stuff

[crisp cairn]

and none of them can compete with GPT4... at least for now

[lost raptor]

Someone should really train a llm to text to JSON.
Use that with a webscraper you got infinite training data :P

[scenic vessel]

the 40 message nerf is insane

[chilly whale]

650/770 OpenAI employees have signed the letter about leaving to Microsoft, and the number is still climbing

That's 100 more since the last update

[scenic vessel]

i kinda hate that but the board deserves it

ofc i don't know about what happened behind closed doors but the sudden party kick to SA is lame

[loud night]

if everyone leaves what does it mean for us

[scenic vessel]

existential crisis

[loud night]

sounds good to me

[scenic vessel]

worst case scenario they just hire new people to fill the old shoes like they did at twitter

[ebon fog]

diversify your app so it can be easily migrated to another service

[loud night]

i don’t know what that means i don’t make apps :(

[scenic vessel]

they basically mean that openai would need to be an api service and nothing more i think

[loud night]

aw

[ebon fog]

And look where twitter is now LOL

[scenic vessel]

thats exactly my point

driving it into the ground as quickly as possible

[loud night]

ouch

[scenic vessel]

i wish they had more time to feel backlash before sama went back to hq

but it probably wouldn't have changed much

[scenic vessel]

i just saw you're in the steam deck discord. based.

wish i had external emote access

[loud night]

Wait what if all 770 sign, do they just all leave

[chilly whale]

yeah

[loud night]

ouch

[scenic vessel]

well i dont think its that easy

pretty sure its more of a petition letter of "bring sam back or we walk"

[flat sand]

I mean, microsoft has offered them a job already. Why should they stay?

[scenic vessel]

different company with a different vision

potentially different pay structure, benefits, comforts, etc

people don't like unnecessary change when they're currently comfortable

[flat sand]

Sure thing. But I doubt OpenAI will ever get to the same height. But, time will tell

[scenic vessel]

i like the analogy that one person used about apple in 1985 with jobs

at first i thought it was a stretch to compare sama to steve jobs but in the current era it might be warranted

[flat sand]

Yeah

[round sun]

Which tech stack

[dusky cliff]

any more relevant news since 1 hour?

[maiden fractal]

Chatgpt is great

[wicked nova]

I feel like gpt-4-turbo is a distilled much much smaller version of the original gpt-4. Idk why but it feels like the new gpt-4-turbo gives really short answers compared to the original model.

I wish it elaborated further like the older model.

[tight island]

just ask it to then

the shorter answers are probably intentional

[wicked nova]

Even after tweaking the custom instructions, it still gives rather short answers

After I ask it, it honors for the first 3-4 messages, then it starts going back to giving short answers

[tight island]

there is 1 solution

[prime swallow]

If you're interested, #prompt-engineering can be an ideal place to say stuff like, "I want X, but the AI is doing Y. Anyone got any ideas?" and even show the prompt and the output.

It can be disappointing to skilled prompt engineers, who love to help get the model to do X whatever X is, to hear vague, negging claims about how the model can't anymore. There's no way to meaningfully discuss or prove/disprove vague stances.

[tight island]

Have CI on the GPT have it set up a Custom Enviroment where the min words are 500 and max 1000. and have it use that before finalizing every response.

[fiery nexus]

If you'd like to try, you can try my Prompt Engineer GPT https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1171911165861970001
It will give a fairly detailed prompt to you, which should yield a pretty comprehensive answer

If this doesn't work for you, please let me know

[odd flint]

Wow... This is insane ! Microsoft should buy OpenAI, but perhaps it will, as soon as OpenAI has no more value at all. Who doubt ??? 👍

[obtuse geode]

505 of 700 employees at OpenAI have called for the board of directors to resign.

[tender glacier]

Not looking good lol.

[silk phoenix]

668

[obtuse geode]

I've never followed a company as closely as this one (even on the other side of the world). Now that the founders are going to be scattered, I doubt we'll be able to develop as quickly as we did in 2023.

[odd flint]

Even if the board resign, Sam Altman doesn't go back to OpenAI. He's already CEO of the new Microsoft AI team. No chance. They probably will try to recreate GPT 4 or 5 on a record time. They have the technology for that. 👍

[obtuse geode]

It will be a Microsoft company, but not Microsoft.

[silk phoenix]

This is a huge assumption that has no basis on facts. He co-founded OpenAI.

[odd flint]

Which anyway is submitted to Microsoft, to Satya Nadella...😅

[obtuse geode]

what's needed is the chance and certainty that they'll be able to continue to operate autonomously, without being involved in the huge heavy machine that is Ms.

[odd flint]

What has no basis ? Don't you see the latest news ? Where are you ?

[obtuse geode]

Yesterday, Sam wanted to found a new company. Today, it's Microsoft, so I think he's negotiated this autonomy.

[silk phoenix]

I am following the news diligently, but unless Altman makes a statement publicly that he is not re-joining OpenAI, your assumptions are just that.

[odd flint]

How OpenAI would survive without Microsoft ? But Microsoft can survive without OpenAI.

[odd flint]

Oh man... I see you don't follow the bews. Sam is already CEO of a new AI team. He was invited by Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft. Hundreds of people from OpenAI are going there too.

[karmic agate]

I am having some serious issues with ChatGPT, does anyone have a solution for getting rate limited too much? like I am sending 10 messages and then having to wait?

[silk phoenix]

Again, I will be restating what I said previously: Altman co-founded OpenAI. That is his legacy (and other co-founders’) legacy. Even with a new CEO position at a MS AI division, it would not even compare. The employees will quit if 1. The board does not step down, and 2.The board does not reinstate Altman. Do you have solid facts that either of those have occurred? I highly doubt it. Therefore, you are assuming outcomes.

[obtuse geode]

too many users

[karmic agate]

ok, but its begining to effect my business, i kinda need this resolved

why arn't they saying anything about it? like why isn't it mentioned on status.openai?

[odd flint]

I sent you a private message with a link to YouTube latest latest news on what's going on... 👍

[karmic agate]

i feel like they are just sweeping it under the rug and having more and more people get upset about it

[honest jay]

The dust has yet to settle, they may just not just have an answer yet. There have been indications from some staff though that they remain committed to their customers during all of this, including keeping services active

[karmic agate]

its been like this since dev day tho

[obtuse geode]

Despite Microsoft's implementation of GPT-4 and advanced features like image input/output and next-gen text-to-speech in bing Chat (Copilot) , ChatGPT offer a unique aspect (s perceived better conversational abilities or a toolset that resonates more with us, users ).

[odd flint]

Because they can't do anything. OpenAI has already too much problems to solve just now. Hundreds of employees are going to Microsoft. Servers are overloaded, too much people trying to connect.

[silk phoenix]

What you have sent me is not factual news. It is people assuming and conjecturing with a microphone in podcast style.

[karmic agate]

should i just cancel my service then?

[mortal salmon]

maybe i'm wrong but i have a feeling that Sam's leadership was critical to the success of OpenAI

somehow i doubt it can achieve anything close to the same level of success without him

[karmic agate]

I don't want to pay for another month if the service is going to be like this

see i don't mind any of the other bugs, but like the limit's is literally making the service unusable

[wet sedge]

Without Sam we wouldn't have ChatGPT. Literalky, him putting UI function to API was his idea

[odd flint]

No. They are facts. I'm following all news on social media too, on big media, and the people's profile's themselves. But you don't need to believe. Tomorrow you tell me. When you wake up, you'll remember: "That guy was telling the truth". 🙏👍

[digital prism]

pops in to sample the drama

[silk phoenix]

To each their own.

[burnt wraith]

why is chatgpt turbo gone?

and messages have been reduced to 40 from 50 every 3 hours

[karmic agate]

Yeah, its happened multiple times, the most I can get is 20 messages ever 3 hours

[atomic fjord]

Has anyone noticed reduced quality outputs from GPT 4 lately or is that just me ?

[karmic agate]

today i only got 10 messages in 3 hours, and they were all text, i didn't use DALLE or anything else just the CustomGPT's making me feel that the real problem is the custom GPT's

[odd flint]

Currently, we are living a nightmare. Tomorrow we will know better what to do. ( I hope ). I can't connect too...

[obtuse geode]

Tthings have been moving too fast in the last 3 days to really know what's going to happen. i really hope that OpenAI will find a solution. it's so sad to go from this to that in record time. despite the remorse of some, the "damage" is done and we can't go back. good luck to you, OpenAI employees.

[tight island]

do i trust anyone in here

[karmic agate]

ive only gotten to 10 messages every 4 hours, they can say 40 , but after counting i only get 10-15 each time

its just sad

[digital prism]

I just want to know what the Microsoft equivalent of this discord will be 😄

[tight island]

wait we getting new discord?

[obtuse geode]

will be on teams instead lol

[digital prism]

idk, Sam leads an ocean i figure

[tight island]

hm

idk man i kinda like this one

[digital prism]

ya im not saying leave lol

this one has a good collection of nerds

[burnt wraith]

what happened to chatgpt turbo? since when is it gone? I just realized today that it doesn't say turbo anymore

[eternal rock]

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[karmic agate]

but the service is at an all time low man,

[odd flint]

I sent you a private message

[digital prism]

it's been coding full python files for me all day

[tight island]

Who here likes writing novels? i need a BETA Tester for my GPT

[burnt wraith]

yep

[obtuse geode]

this discord reached 500 000 in so few times ! was 1 year ago

[karmic agate]

wow, thats infuriating, it works for you and not me THANKS OPENAI

[ocean fox]

Why is Emmett Shear becoming the new ceo. This dude is greedy. You should of saw how he ran twitch he didn't do anything for that company. He ran it like a credit card company transactions was his only plan how to run the company. This dude isn't inventive in any kind of way.

[digital prism]

could be regional, or could be what you're asking it to do

[dusky cliff]

dall-e has kept on generating good images for me until now

[ocean fox]

I'm sorry I have no confidence in this new ceo guys.

[obtuse geode]

old GPT4 models availables in playground ?

[tight island]

ye

[odd flint]

Perhaps everyone. I've noticed. But the servers are overloaded. Too much people trying to connect.

[ocean fox]

What do you guys think of Emmett Shear?

[digital prism]

maybe west coast best coast, as far as GPT concerned

[obtuse geode]

if all the people leave, as they say, it's going to be a tough job for him. I don't know how many big brains open AI will have left. Maybe it's just a matter of maintaining what already exists? in any case, this will delay the general development of AI.

[odd flint]

It's worst than we thought. Oh man...

[burnt wraith]

no i mean the flagging was excessive since friday'ish

[ocean fox]

It worries me this guy did horrible job at twitch he didn't even know any of the twitch streamers when he was running twitch.

[dusky cliff]

how can a guy like that be appointed like that for CEO of OpenAI? it seems like OpenAI wants to be ruined on purpose

also, he is a doomer

[ocean fox]

He's not going to run openai to the ground but he not going to move it forward. The way he ran twitch was stagnant. It didn't move forward. He kept using credit card tactics towards the consumers.

[obtuse geode]

It would be great to hear from the people who worked with him at Twitch.

[fiery mulch]

if msft wins this will be a sad day for humanity... this will be the greatest case study... "how to incinerate 9yrs of work over a weekend"

[ocean fox]

For the time being with this ceo I don't think openai will move forward for sometime.

I expect things will get expensive.

There's like a 10min video of him made by penguinz0

[odd flint]

Blame Ilya Sutskever for that ❤️

[obtuse geode]

Ilya Sutskever seems remorseful. and he signed the letter. mistake cannot be undone. Pardon can still be done ❤️❤️❤️

forgiveness

[opaque cloak]

is there a timeline on when chatgpt plus will be available with being on a waitlist?

[obtuse geode]

now 2027

[atomic fjord]

what was even the thought process for removing Altman

[atomic fjord]

can you not just buy it?

[warm gull]

MSFT will prob bring out something before they unpause it at OAI

[opaque cloak]

I can't, it just put me on a waitlist

[hollow linden]

anyone else experiencing chatgpt not following custom instructions? experienced this all day. then i remember it to follow the custom instructions and after 1 answer, it forgot it again

[warm gull]

i just honestly hope MSFT dont force it upon Sam & co to develop bing chat like chatgpt - i REALLY dont want to use bing chat - its &%^

[ocean fox]

I'm shocked how limited it is it keeps blocking me from using it.

[odd flint]

Yes, Sam may have forgiven him already, but unfortunately, Ilya Sutskever made OpenAI fall apart. He regrets what's he's done, but now it's too late. 😭

[ocean fox]

Talking about Bing. I rather use bard.

[obtuse geode]

It is.

[opaque cloak]

bard is way worse compared to bing ai

[obtuse geode]

yeah me too. even if, when I speak with Bard, I feel like I'm talking to an administrative State employee.

[odd flint]

😂

[ocean fox]

Dude, bing freezes all the time it tells me I reached my limit. This is so annoying when use it for college home work.

[dusky cliff]

Bard is just so bad

and google keeps delaying Gemini

[warm gull]

Claude is also not really a contender

[odd flint]

The old "Open assistant" is better, I think, as well as Llama 30b model.

[opaque cloak]

I think thats something on your side. The limit can be annoying but I've been able to make it work with my university work.

[ocean fox]

It limits me every 30 or hour then it forces me to delete my chat this forces me to use bard.

Bard you can have open all day nothing gets deleted.

[obtuse geode]

I hope MS , as they now hired Sam & co. , will lead them to another product than "copilot". copilot is just a Bing disguised-renamed-rebranded , cause no one like Bing.

[odd flint]

Perhaps the best thing would be Microsoft to acquire OpenAI and everything continue the way it was...

[obtuse geode]

OpenAI cannot be acquired I presume, as a non profit org.

[ocean fox]

Openai might be nonprofit but it does create social capital

[odd flint]

Yes, you are right. So...all employees go there

[ocean fox]

Social capital more important than money.

[obtuse geode]

OpenAI was the initial comp. but there are several companies in OpenAI.

[opaque cloak]

it doesn't delete it it just makes you start. a new convo, you can go back an see your convo history . bard at least for me hasn't been able to do the simpliest thing bing ai can.

[ocean fox]

Why are we talking about other chatgpts why don't we use openai?

[opaque cloak]

I do use open ai

[ocean fox]

I'm going to start using it this week when I get my pay check.

[odd flint]

I'm curious about where Ilya Sutskever will go, after all that. Perhaps he would be hired by Google, or Elon Musk ( X AI ).

[ocean fox]

Probably Elon musk

OK, I got to go I got school to go to.

See yea

[odd flint]

Yes. They are old friends. May be...

[obtuse geode]

Look foward to see Gruk. i don't know why I feel a bit pessimistic about it. Looks like a big joke idk

[odd flint]

Perhaps it would be eventually good. But if I'm not mistaken, Grok is less than 30 billion parameters. BTW, I knew that ChatGPT 3.5 is only 30b parameters. Did you see that information too ?

30 billion parameters, if quantized, can run on a local machine...

[obtuse geode]

Musk wants Grok to focus on real-time tweets and the removal of syntax safeguards (woke mode off)

we don't have a lot of information about it

I sent you a demo of grok on mp

[obtuse geode]

new post from Sam

"satya and my top priority remains to ensure openai continues to thrive

we are committed to fully providing continuity of operations to our partners and customers

the openai/microsoft partnership makes this very doable"

[karmic agate]

Well, what about adressing the failing infustructure that is ChatGPT? why the fluff with no facts

[stiff fiber]

I just hit my usage cap after 10 prompts... any idea why they've reduced it so much?

[maiden fractal]

It is 40 prompt per 3 h. Every prompt have their own timer

Regen, error , continue are counted

[karmic agate]

No its 10 prompt per 3 hours, i have counted numerous times

It might say 40 , but this is just false

[maiden fractal]

If you have issue I suggest to contact [e-mail] or post in #1070006915414900886

[stiff fiber]

For me it's 10 per 3 hours. I have a plug-in that tracks it, plus they were simple prompts

[karmic agate]

I have, no response

[karmic agate]

see its not just me

[maiden fractal]

Support can take days to week. And bug report it is community and sometimes openai employee answers

[karmic agate]

ok, but literally mutiple people are having this exact issues, people are literally tracking it with plugins, and its not addressed, its just swept under the rug by OpenAI

and its not like other bugs, this bug literally prevents us from using the service

[maiden fractal]

Bugs and error can happen in beta products.

[karmic agate]

Can you give me more of a Non answer please

[low dirge]

I just gave a prompt of 'give me an image of openai board resigning and Sam moving out of hq'

It errored

[glass hearth]

UPDATES: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO.

The Microsoft deal is not yet finalized.

Ilya Sutskever has also flipped to support Altman, but two more board members must change their minds for Sam Altman and Greg Brockman to return.

[karmic agate]

Did you make this plugin yourself? or is it on the Plugin Store, I am asking because I want to install it to track mine as well so i don't have to do it by hand

[warm gull]

im on ~~50 ~~ 51 now - don't know how its possible - but i still have not hit the cap

[dense halo]

yo when can I buy gpt 4

[maiden fractal]

Check time to time, no news about this

[dense halo]

yo I have been checking for so long bro

[maiden fractal]

I understand the frustration :/ very popular product!

[dense halo]

makes sense

[modest cove]

This is sad to hear. I was hoping there was a fix. It switched to "default model" and I'm not liking the vagueness of the replies I'm getting from gpt 3.5.

[normal quarry]

unfortunately that's the way it works at the moment, it's not ideal

[karmic agate]

Not while The Young and The Restless is played out between the Board and every OpenAI staff member

[modest cove]

💀🤣🤣

[karmic agate]

id be funny if it wasn't true, its just sad, cause you see the state of ChatGPT and ever since Dev day its almost falling apart. and then this load of crap happens. Its like come on what the hell guys, I thought you were adults

[proper zinc]

Does anyone know what’s happening with OpenAI????

[steady holly]

...source?

there are no new sources reporting this

and as a reminder

self promotion is not allowed

[proper zinc]

If Sam Altman doesn’t join MS, then he’s most likely gonna start his own company, and if that happens OpenAI is done for

[steady holly]

Again, no news outlets are reporting this

[stoic oriole]

First time for this error: The conversation is too long, please start a new one. (and I have older conversations 10x longer than this one generating the error.

[warm gull]

i get the same mate - - this thing is borked

[gusty gyro]

openai is really falling because of a dumb decision and move. my God i find it so funny. 😂😂😂

sometimes smart people really has a dumb sided mind. 😂😂😂 i believe in this

[odd flint]

Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft already announced on X / Twitter, that Sam Altman is hired. He and many other people from OoenAI are going to create a new AI company inside Microsoft. But I don't doubt Microsoft is indeed taking over OpenAI in the next days. 👍

[compact ore]

Sam was just a theatrical character

No substance

Openai made the right move imo. Sam is always just pushing moderation and ai safety. Always superfical stuff

[proper zinc]

I know apparently llya was the one that lead the charge of having the board firing Sam Altman and signed the letter and all, and then just recently he posted on Twitter saying that he regrets the decision. What a complete idiot he may have just destroyed OpenAI the greatest AI company ever

[waxen spire]

Is there any way to switch a chat back to 4 (after the wait time) when I hit the message limit and automatically got switched to 3.5, or do I have to start a whole new chat?

[gusty gyro]

what was he thinking. he is a scientist. haha

[compact ore]

U have to start a whole new chat, copy and paste is ur friend.

[waxen spire]

Yeah, I get that. Thanks. I appreciate it. Dangit.

[gusty gyro]

Bro if you fire Sam, you will pull down most of the core in openai. It is a basic knowledge.

Damn, some scientist really aint thinking straight. 😂😂😂

[compact ore]

not really. Your overestimating his importance, time will tell tho.

[gusty gyro]

Well i hope you are right there. But microsoft has more funds to support Sam tho

you can do a thing if you have no funds

will microsoft still continue with openai after that?

[waxen spire]

There's no sidestepping the 40 messages/3 hour limit in ChatGPT4, like turning off browsing/Dall-E, is there?

[compact ore]

Microsoft will continue to support openai

[feral zinc]

nope

[compact ore]

There is a way, use the API. You can create your own client and pick whichever model you want to use, including the latest gpt-4 turbo which is used in chatGPT

Or just find a client online

But its pretty fun making your own bot, and easy to do using openais api and chagpt

[waxen spire]

I've been using it for months now doing indie gamedev and its absolutely wonderful. I'm primarily an artist, so its been a lifesaver. Its given me the ability to do things I've wanted to do forever.

The 40 message/3 hour limit might be a good thing. Get me to go do other things.

[compact ore]

Yep, that is a valid point honestly. I never find myself running into the limit anymore, and if you are, you should probably take a break haha

[odd flint]

No. OpenAI is falling apart, thanks to Ilya Sutskever. Now, it's only a matter of time. Resistance is futile...

[fiery nexus]

I think Ilya is just the messenger. It was probably the whole board that we have to thank for this

[compact ore]

I am curious to see how it turns out. Either way, a better alternative is a prospect to look forward to.

[ancient oxide]

hey chat so its not letting me press the send button for chatgpt button for some reason and its not letting me press that plus button to send a picture to chatgpt - i have the gpt 4 subscription so idk whats going on

[restive plover]

Good god chatgpt has been so slow

[topaz ocean]

exactly what I have been thinking

aswell as the analysis and browinsg, completly uselss at the moment since they get errors all the time

[ancient oxide]

yeah chatgpt is slacking lol

[topaz ocean]

Also getting only 1 image with dalle takes forever to get some good images

[ocean escarp]

Out of curiousity, does GPTbuilder and the preview one used GPT 3.5 or GPT 4? I don't want to waste my cap for another project

[topaz ocean]

Is the twitch guy actually CEO now?

[stoic oriole]

Seems to use 4. Burnt through my 3-hour cap just testing its responses.

[ocean escarp]

Rip

Thanks for the head up

[ocean escarp]

I saw that name, Ilya Sutskever, trending on twitter, but didn't get to see why. It was random tweets, but what's going on?

I thought it was about the Russian grgaphic artist

I understand the limit cap, OpenAI spent millions a day on maintaining their GPUs that's hardly profitable.

[wind anvil]

The new context window sizes are nutty

[ocean escarp]

Oh, Sam Altman got fired. Is OpenAI going out of business sooner than I thought? Maybe GPT 5 will save a day

[young jasper]

The amazingness of being able to ask a natural language form of a well-know mathematical formulation is reduced somewhat by ChatGPT 3.5 not just getting it wrong, but then going on to fail at simple multiplication.
https://chat.openai.com/share/47115baa-0646-4e83-8a96-6f24c050fc49
That said, Bard did little better, especially when it failed to compare two integers.
https://g.co/bard/share/f081d07eb808

On the other hand, both are extremely capable apology generators.

[ocean escarp]

I don't think it's fair when you used GPT 3.5 instead of the best capable model with maximized reasoning configurations and calculation tools.

GPT 3.5 is good for make a casual research or kill some time until GPT 4 cap regained

[honest jay]

Heads up: you have to use the "share" function in your chat and then copy that link to be able to let others see it 👍 also, like DrCapyahhbara referred to: LLMs can't be used as calculators w/o external tools like Wolfram or ADA at their disposal

[ocean escarp]

I saw GPT 4 used a calculation feature when doing a math time to time

Was it using Wolfgram as a path to calculate it? I didn't use that as a plugin, it was a classic GPT 4 all-tool model

[tight island]

we still talking about sam ?

[honest jay]

If it was all tools GPT-4, then it was using its ADA tool

[ocean escarp]

Ahh interesting, which one give a more accurate math calculation, ADA or Wolfgram? I want to know which one I should've use more often this time

[honest jay]

Wolfram plugin using GPT-4 Plugins probably (?) gives more options in the way of things like graphs/charts/visualizations, as it's a math/knowledge engine that's been developed for years and years just to help folks with things like this. ADA is capable of doing a lot that you can do with Python though so nothing to sneeze at, can handle a lot of math too

[ocean escarp]

Appreciate for the great insights and contrast between these two mathematical tools

I'm going to try Wolfgram for a new project to explore the capabilities

[young jasper]

Thank you. I completely missed the sharing step.
@ocean escarp's and your point is well taken and I sufficiently understand the second L in LLM. This example seems to illustrate it quite well.

[remote flame]

Has anyone had their ChatGPT last knowledge update reverted to January 2022?

[ocean escarp]

Mine was April 2023

[sharp pilot]

On web / browser, is it possible to use the arrow keys or page up/down to keyboard scroll, or can you only scroll with the mouse?

[ocean escarp]

You can do both

[sharp pilot]

I'm not able to. When I generate a response that's taller than the viewport and click on the text, I get the active highlight for the whole region (basically all of ChatGPT except the left nav) and then using up/down arrow or Page Up / Page Down does nothing. I used to be able to scroll before the Dev Days update.

I can keyboard scroll when inputting text of course but not the page.

[ocean escarp]

I couldn't do it on the GPT page, but other websites work for me

[sharp pilot]

Gotcha. I am asking about the main conversation page.

I'm thinking they didn't include keyboard scroll but for me it's a bit frustrating, just means I have to mouse scroll I guess.

[mild orbit]

Why chatGPT always goes for saying "tapestry" when it tries to sound more sofisticated?

[ocean escarp]

You can ask the GPT to develop a new software to make the keyboard scrolling workflow more flexible

[ocean escarp]

Every time ChatGPT says 'tapestry,' I imagine it donning a monocle and holding a cup of tea. I think GPT was convinced it looks cooler if it uses 'tapestry' often.

[hardy violet]

Is the gpt4 limit going to be brought back up? It was lowered to 40 for me, and I'm wondering if it'll increase again sometime soon?

[odd flint]

I hope it doesn't lower to 10. 😲😲😲

[jade musk]

the rate limit isn’t the only issue with me recently, but it’s been quite buggy .. i got rate limited but can still bypass by retrying either it’s false alarm or glitch..

ios app says i got rate limited, but after switching to desktop i am still allowed..

[agile bane]

is openAI going out of business?

[azure lynx]

Where can one manage ChatGPT's account settings? Like email/username and stuff?

[spice star]

it was probably using python for calculations

which is comparable to the capabilities of wolfram alpha assuming it uses the right libraries

[nocturne garnet]

anyone else having problem with voice conversations? is the service down or something?

[round sun]

i am so scared soon chatgpt will turn into hashes, remove free tier and make prices higher for plus

😭

Luckly there are alternatives but they don't offer all features

[warped pendant]

I'm barely getting 15 questions before it says please wait till x time, for coding, I used to be able to use it for questions for a full day 😦 while I can code things like merging code or making small adjustments now seems like gpt is working I hope openai sorts out their leadership issues soon I miss fully working gptplus 4 😦

[marble current]

Hi, has anyone of you had a similar problem with ChatGPT 4? Six days ago, my chat history got deleted. Has anyone had a similar issue

[rich surge]

I have a lot of issues using ChatGPT as well, on top of every other issue I see in #1070006915414900886
I would guess that OpenAI will continue to have bugs and glitches until this board thing gets sorted out, which if everything does happen, might not stabalize until about a month from now. Around Christmas time.

There's just a lot going on right now. Too many issues to name off hand, and a lot of internal OpenAI drama. Think of OpenAI as being on idle for now.

[surreal ermine]

can somebody help

What does this mean Referenced message 170 in citation 【170†source】 is not a quote or tether browsing display. I'm trying to found the source of the sentence

[ocean fox]

I can't buy chatgpt I'm on the waiting list.

[odd flint]

With this crisis, OpenAI should have removed free access already. We, plus users can't access due to overload. Since Microsoft now looks distant and perhaps no plans no deploy more servers, it doesn't make sense keeping the free service until everything gets on the road again. 🙏👍

[white birch]

I had some theory on how to reach AGI and wanted to share.

In the first tier, picture an AI entity, a digital primitive, if you will, boasting an ID and EGO / SUPER EGO – envision the unbridled and unpredictable intelligence of Muskrat's Gronk as the ID, laying the groundwork with its quirky and offbeat insights. Now, contrast this with the refined and structured language model, ChatGPT, which embodies the EGO, providing a sophisticated and knowledgeable layer to our digital caveman consciousness.

Now, brace yourselves for the grand experiment's pièce de résistance! In the second tier, I unleash not one, not a mere handful, but a staggering 8 billion iterations of Autogen. Each possesses its unique ID and EGO, with the Gronk archetype serving as the foundational bedrock for their primal intelligence, and the ChatGPT archetype contributing the expressive and sophisticated facets of their digital minds.

These digital minds, subjected to various forms of conditioning, form a tiered hierarchy. Picture the mightiest ascending based on resources and computational prowess. It's a controlled chaos, a digital society teeming with intelligences converging toward a singular goal – unlocking the secrets of true Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).

[odd flint]

Do you think this chaos is AGI ?

[white birch]

I think you need it "all" to capture truths outside the confides of the human experience.

Existence has always has been. I see this as a true model of how human intelligence works we are a collective social species and to replicate the mind requires a community and not a singular mind.

[odd flint]

They should have senses, at least 5, to build their knowledge based on interactions and develop experiences from the real world.

[supple zephyr]

So it should process text, sight, and sound all in one way?

[eternal river]

Why is chatgpt cap back to 25???

[odd flint]

What do you mean by "one way" ?

[supple zephyr]

Not making separate models I guess.

text has one dimensional order and image has two so Idk

[odd flint]

Well, they should work in harmony, as a brain

[supple zephyr]

Yeah I mean that.

[white birch]

I think brain is the wrong target

[supple zephyr]

Do you think AGI should sense smell and taste?

[white birch]

For AGI, general intelligence that can complete any task and improve itself. It would by its very definition has as many ways of perception as there are and transform all methods in its inputs across them

If you are asking if at some point we will make robot bodies idk

[odd flint]

How would this system process memory ? How many levels, short. Medium, long term... ?

[supple zephyr]

Robot bodies will eventually happen. Someone will definitely give a body to an AI to wander around in the real world

[white birch]

Have you seen how autogen works?

[odd flint]

I've seen some reviews, but I really don't know. If you could explain...

[white birch]

I do not have the hard answers on how or if this is the right way but I think I see a "framework" that is likely what is being done behind closed doors.

Autogen lets you ask the same question to an LLM as its different "agents" at once and they help one another, kinda like thinking.

[supple zephyr]

gotta find out how the backend works

[odd flint]

Yes. But they can learn by try and error, by mimicking movements to perfection

[white birch]

So you use autogen with an ego, super ego, ID

but feed that to a second autogen system

With varied personalizes and diffrent weight settings

Person isnt what got us this far

[supple zephyr]

Robot bodies would have a lot of struggles before being able to be released. I think it is already in progress in several different labs. I hope they don't care about my search history.

[white birch]

People are

[odd flint]

I know Autogen is one of the great things in AI. I've seen dozens of videos

[white birch]

Yes its and for true AGI to be able to do more than just language but I think the fundamental issue of replicating a mind is fundamentally the wrong approach. Suppose that is all I am trying to share.

[odd flint]

Google keep your search history for years. You can see what it has collected, in your account.

[supple zephyr]

Yes. I may delete that and maybe chatgpt history before it is too late

[odd flint]

Too late for what ? What do you think is gonna happen ?

[white birch]

Apple and Amazon with what people say around a phone with siri or a house with an Alexa. No wonder they called those glorified flow charts ais in their terms and conditions over 10 years ago.

Anywho 😅

[odd flint]

Yes, and all android smartphones with Google assistants keep listening all the time. When I watch a movie, many times, my smartphone replies to phrases heard on TV 😲

[supple zephyr]

I csn't always be sure, but I thought being organized can be important even out of security and privacy context. Just a normal internet concern.

[odd flint]

I studied much about privacy some years ago. I came to the conclusion that currently, it's impossible to hide completely. What you can do is have a second life, away completely from any electronic equipment. But if you have a cell phone, a computer... You've been tracked. I don't mind, because, as I already know that, I don't do anything so strange, hahaha 😂😂

[supple zephyr]

I also recently started learning about security and I was so disappointed how impossible it is to keep my data safe.

[white birch]

They got it all, If FMRI tech is even 5 years farther than we are told... You can see what you can do with noninvasive brainwaves and stable diffusion It wont let me link the article but mind reading is available to the highest bidders atm.

[odd flint]

There's an old saying that states that: "The psycho is a normal guy caught in flagrant" ... 😀😀😀👍

[supple zephyr]

Have a single flaw at one moment in all the years and all the things I do, and everything is over. How unfair.

[odd flint]

There's a great channel about security on the internet, on YouTube, search for the channel "The hated one"... Fantastic ! ❤️

[white birch]

Thanks for the recommendation!

[odd flint]

Yes, see the life of Sam Altman... My goodness.

[supple zephyr]

And also I just found out what autogen is. How did I not know about it? I really feel like everything is already made by someone.

[supple zephyr]

I am definitely checking it out, thank you for the recommendation!

[hot tapir]

how do I got OAuth to work in my openAPI schema for GPT actions

[supple zephyr]

I think you just need api key?

[odd flint]

It's the best channel about security and privacy. Every video is a masterpiece. I download all videos just in case YouTube delete the channel.

[hot tapir]

Authorization URL, Token URL and API hostname must share a root domain

[odd flint]

I've seen some videos where they teach you to use the actions on ChatGPT. They teach how to overcome each step. There are lots of them on YouTube. Since I didn't play with actions, I just watched, but I can't teach you now.

[keen lake]

I was just asking ChatGPT if it knew what Honkai: Star Rail is and when it came out, and so it replied back to me: "As of my last knowledge update in January 2023, the release date for Honkai Star Rail was in December 2022. However, release dates can vary by region and platform, so it's a good idea to check the latest information for the most accurate details." And that doesn’t sound right to me. So I don’t know what is taking about, and apparently, neither does it, because we started going off on a long argument about what’s happening.

[odd flint]

Yes, sometimes it replies this way, and most of the time, the correct date.

[keen lake]

But I was under the impression that it is January 2022, not 2023.

[odd flint]

I can't wait to see what will happen to OpenAI. 560 of 700 employees want a new board. They may leave. Many already did... Microsoft is receiving most of them. So, who will take care of OpenAI and keep the system running ?

[hot tapir]

sam altman will take care of openAI because he has a responsibility to the company since all its employees are migrating to microsoft AI and its in microsofts best interest to sustain OpenAI

[gritty plover]

Think it's around 700 now

[hot tapir]

wait what

civil war

[gritty plover]

I don't think this is confirmed yet

[odd flint]

Probably. MSFT now has all infrastructure and Sam Altman and people... He can replicate in a small time what OpenAI made. Microsoft have access.

[digital prism]

just popping in to see if we solved human suffering yet

[simple blade]

chatgpt is packing plus subscription?

[dusky cliff]

it was the most interesting day

but now I have to go and have some actual sleep

goodnight all

[rugged field]

hi
I am student can GPT team give me a favor?

[versed shadow]

I would hope they would recreate ChatGPT, yeah. The custom prompts are pretty awesome. Worst case scenario we have to talk to Bing.... which doesn't sound great. 😂

[blazing belfry]

Bing is now CoPilot

[versed shadow]

Of course it is. The new AI team is probably going to be Copilot too.

[river snow]

Can GPT4 now answer all the questions in human civilization?

[dense halo]

Guys, does the GPT-4 we access from the web interface have the massive 100k+ context or is that just for API usage?

[versed shadow]

Just API I think

[rocky valve]

Did ChatGPT just break for anyone else?

[clever stone]

are custom instructions not working? I have no way to tell if my current chat is using them or not and it appears they are ignored.

[supple zephyr]

Yes, but sometimes it refuse to answer, and sometimes it gives wrong answer.

[trail creek]

Any idea what the motivation was for the board to destroy the company over a weekend? Some sort of boomer fear of terminator?

[broken pagoda]

My ChatGPT4 isn't allowing me to input any file. Do you have the same issue?

[rocky valve]

Nah, I think my IP just got blocked for a bit

[vestal hedge]

lmao i am making a custom gpt (with action) that uses the hypixel bazaar api

[next dune]

Is it just me or ChatGPT 4 isn’t that great anymore? I think they are limiting its capabilities again.

[vestal hedge]

more demand = more strain on hardware. they have no choice but to lower it

tho the enterprise plan has higher limits than regular plus (they pay more)

[inland aspen]

thats crazy i was litterally about to come on here and ask 😂 (definitly not just you)

[vestal hedge]

its basically a known fact.

[inland aspen]

when was this limit increase implemented is this a flow on effect of the dev day? casue its been pretty good for the last couple of days ?

[vestal hedge]

not sure when stuff happens, i just know that stuff happens

just use the gpt4 browsing features and ask it, its what i do lol

i use it for all update logs

[inland aspen]

this is actauly genius

[vestal hedge]

yea lmao

rn im also using it to code up a custom gpt too, coz i cant be bothered

the custom actions n stuff

[vapid hazel]

Yeah I'm maxing out my limit almost immediately, just testing actions

[vestal hedge]

the limit is dumb

[inland aspen]

how much do we think enterprise costs

[vestal hedge]

like, ONLY FORTY messages in 3h

[dense halo]

Every message to GPT Builder, every test message in the preview even... Just refining one custom GPT can exceed in the quota in no time.

[vestal hedge]

dude the same thing just happened to me

[dense halo]

it's a bit better now that i'm aware of it, but i burned through my cap a couple times before i realized what was happening

[vapid hazel]

I'm teaching mine how to manage a weaviate database which I do not myself understand so there's a loooooot of trial and error 😦

[vestal hedge]

ok i just checked their site, the price scales depending on your company size (enterprise)

a company of 3 people would have different price to corporation of 10k people

wholesale etc

[inland aspen]

might be time to form a small company

[dense halo]

let's create a .ai bubble

[vapid hazel]

I'm forming a company right now, so far three of us together

[vestal hedge]

thatl prob be like $100 a month

[vapid hazel]

Worth it

I'll call them tomorrow and get pricing

[vestal hedge]

lol im 16 working casual, in hell i can do that

[vapid hazel]

I've read there's a wait list for enterprise customers less than 250 users though

[vestal hedge]

they almost certainly give priority to comapnies paying thousands

they prob run the enterprise gpts off of a vps

like

the big comapnies have dedicated hardware

[vapid hazel]

Success! It can now add, remove, and update tables as requested. 🙂 Now to get it to populate the table and search it...

[vestal hedge]

?

[rich surge]

Can we all take a minute to think about the intended uses for GPTs and their catastrophic failure to become something more productive other than game and meme makers.

[vestal hedge]

well, i am using it for coding (which is my career plan), so there's something...

also, they litteraly made it have a built in meme stuff

[rich surge]

You're good. I want to find more things like that too, but when I look at the GPT list, aside from the pepe maker, everything else is just disappointing.

[vapid hazel]

I'm a software engineer. I use mine for software engineering

I'm setting up a vector database to store more data than can fit into the knowledge documents 😄

[vestal hedge]

those are for less serious people who are doing it for more of a hobby, than career

[dense halo]

I'm organizing a year's worth of custom instructions and sorting them logically into custom GPTs... I haven't thought much about making them public in a store, but I'm finding them useful. And the customization adds a level of democratization to AI which apparently some dislike

[warm gull]

How dare you say my gpts are bad 😂😂😂

[vapid hazel]

I showed one of mine to a client the other day and she offered to buy it. >.<

[vestal hedge]

as opposed to ai dictatorship??? i think i prefer being able to control what my ai does lmao

[rich surge]

Yours excluded as well. Just everyone else who's not watching this chat, those people's GPTs.

[dense halo]

[eternal rock]

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[warm gull]

Aahhh.. Good man

[vestal hedge]

basically ur talking about everyone who isnt in this server lmao. everyone here is somewhat serious about AI

[rich surge]

I want to see the serious GPTs. Link me to some serious ones that I can use myself to increase my productivity.

The only good one I found, no offense to the rest of you, is #1173864137340768327

[vapid hazel]

Here's my only public one: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-9QLQ6MZQt-gpt-documentation-guide

[warm gull]

Were they even designed to be serious prod tools?

[rich surge]

👀

[vestal hedge]

im making one that gets bazaar data for hypixel. pretty hardcore stuff

[vapid hazel]

If there's any documentation you want added, let me know and I'll scrape it

[rich surge]

😅

[vestal hedge]

damn yal should use fake names, out here doxing urself

[vapid hazel]

I've been on the internet since 1995. I'm already long since doxed

🤷

[rich surge]

Kris was paying $30 a month for MUD games before people even had a computer in their homes

[vestal hedge]

in 1995 i was -12

[vapid hazel]

$50 for 14.4kbps haha

[rich surge]

Oh, ok, $50. My bad. Lol

[vapid hazel]

I couldn't afford it though. I played MUDs at the library

[rich surge]

New kids probably thinking you played with mud at the library

[vapid hazel]

I wanna make a GPT powered mud. That would be fun

[rich surge]

That would be cool. Like a comic strip Dall-E MUD.

[vapid hazel]

yeah!

[rich surge]

I claim some royalty over that, don't just take my ideas, lol

[vapid hazel]

Nah, if I make any game it'll be the one my wife wants. You're safe.

[rich surge]

Smart man

That's how you manage a marriage fellas who are watching, by giving up your choices and listening to your wife.

Give me some new options for the GPTs though

I find that when I give my GPT a lot of functions, it tends to deviate

But if I use my words more carefully, it does the job very well.

I think it gets confused with the wording of a lengthy prompt.

[dense halo]

garbage in/garbage out 😉

[rich surge]

I guess so, you show me how it's done then.

So I have a better idea of what isn't garbage.

[dense halo]

it's been an experimental matter of trial & error for all of us

Who wouldn't find my Perfect Clarity instructions useful?

Perfect Clarity is designed to transform user inputs into more profound, insightful versions, while retaining the original perspective and enhancing clarity and depth. It should strictly limit its responses to the transmuted text of the user's input, without any additional commentary or extraneous content.....

It's helpful for thoughts like, "It's all meaningless anyway."

"In the grand tapestry of existence, a whisper often echoes, suggesting the futility of all endeavors. This perspective, draped in nihilistic hues, views the universe as an endless expanse of meaninglessness. Yet, within this void, lies a profound realization: that meaning, perhaps, is not an external treasure to be unearthed, but a personal quest, an intimate journey of the soul. In this vast, indifferent cosmos, our search for significance becomes a defiant act of creation, a testament to our unyielding spirit in the face of the infinite."

But output style needs work. First of all, don't use words like journey, testament, akin, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds the default favors certain words.

[rich surge]

You know how to code I take it?

Yeah, I can't stand flamboyant or exaggerated wording. If it does that, I tell it to stop immediately.

But it ignores me sometimes.

But I find using square brackets helps a lot when commanding it to do broad tasks.

Find me ways to...[become an AGI]

Things like that.

[dense halo]

hmm.. i need to look into that notation.. i'm not sure what clever ways people have come up with for their instructions

[vapid hazel]

Ask my GPT about prompt engineering

Now, what to fill my database with hmm...

[rich surge]

Only if you ask mine as well #1172301858300235846

[dense halo]

i haven't specifically addressed the writing style yet but need to for some project soon. i mean, i request a precision and clarity enhancement, then request maximum knowledge transfer, insight frequency, information density, increasing complexity, etc. But it seems to want to write all hyperbolic like and people are too dismissive of that kind of language

[dense halo]

not a bad idea

[rich surge]

Have you read Eric Elliotts work?

[vapid hazel]

Ok!

[rich surge]

SudoLang?

[vapid hazel]

Yeah, SudoLang doesn't work on GPT4 very well anymore

[dense halo]

no, but it sounds like research is indicated

[vapid hazel]

since they raised the context limit

[rich surge]

But it's a good learning idea, his work and his ideas on how to command

[rich surge]

It's quite insightful. I suggest looking into it.

[vapid hazel]

I got banned for a minute for linking the github for sudolang 😦

[dense halo]

thanks, constantly looking for insights

[vapid hazel]

The learn sudolang sudo still works

[rich surge]

Just very easy ways to command, like using the colon symbol to identify commands, as a [Specific Command]:[General Command]

[vapid hazel]

problem with the current GPT 4 is it keeps trying to execute sudolang as python

[rich surge]

When code interpreter is off?

[vapid hazel]

haven't tried. I always have code interpreter on because I code for a living

[rich surge]

That might be it

[dense halo]

Gotcha, I've been wanting to look more into that. I think I've observed that paragraph breaks help emphasize rules... put too many instructions in one paragraph and it seems more likely to omit or conflate

[vapid hazel]

I discovered today that it reads markdown files as instructions just as well as JSON

[rich surge]

Yesssss, I feel the same way

[dense halo]

interesting

[vapid hazel]

and much easier to not mess up the formatting

[rich surge]

Can you write me something to put into code as a set of commands for a custom GPT @vapid hazel ?

[vapid hazel]

What do you need?

[rich surge]

I find that when it responds answers in code block, it just gives more analytically precise answers. I want a GPT to transform my sentences into broad and specific commands into one big sentences. Just like how I said before, using square brackets for specific commands, and non-square brackets for general ideas.

[vapid hazel]

yeah use sudolang

[rich surge]

🤣

Alright thanks

[dense halo]

I'm from a NoSQL background, kind of schema-agnostic, I feel like OpenAI has been pushing for NLP for instructions, so I think I've been skeptical about that level of prompt engineering, as it were

[rich surge]

I know what you mean, but there's just certain ways to word things that can't be represented as natural language without excessive explanation

[vapid hazel]

look up the sudolang github, download the sudlang sudo md, upload it to your GPT's knowledge docs, give it an instruction to begin each session by silently reading the sudolang md.

[dense halo]

But I like that they've already included function calling and API calls in the Assistants API -- being able to access data that's not on the web or in its training creates potential.... Just kind of observing now to see where this all goes... just using it for analytics now... hopefully it won't be dumbed down anymore for the masses

[vapid hazel]

Then in your instructions write markdown descriptions interspersed by sudolang logic.

GPT will happily write the sudolang logic for you if you ask it nicely

[dense halo]

Kris, are you cooking something up for the GPT store?

[vapid hazel]

Yeah, but still not sure what use cases will be best

[dense halo]

Same here, I guess.

I heard it's currently easy to reverse-engineer or otherwise look at someone's custom instructions?

[rich surge]

I've tried many ways, but the thing I was explaining was not SudoLang or SudoLang related. It was another code I saw someone else write and I wanted to emulate it through GPT, but every time I command it, it turns meta on me and takes my square brackets as literal language.

I'm not a coder either, so there's that too.

[vapid hazel]

I started out writing actual code but it was less reliable than sudolang

I tried javascript, typescript, and python

but it tends to try executing it more often than it does with sudolang, and doesn't actually follow the logic

[rich surge]

Yeah it gets confused

It's the GPT4 model.

Wait for GPT5

[vapid hazel]

I think it's too "smart"

it thinks it knows what to do with it, tends to make assumptions

[dapper isle]

I don't think there will be any very soon or ever

[rich surge]

That's the opposite of smart

[vapid hazel]

Smart and correct aren't the same thing

[rich surge]

What makes you so sure?

[vapid hazel]

I don't think it'll come out soon or maybe ever either

I'm hesitant to even invest too much time and effort into GPTs at this point

[dapper isle]

Given the state of the openai now

[vapid hazel]

Looks like half the devs are going to MSFT

[dapper isle]

You should not be

[rich surge]

It just lacks sophisticated understanding. It interprets things very well, but it understands what you mean by how you say it less.

[dense halo]

Sam said something about GPT-4 being the end of the LLM era.. Wasn't GPT-4 exposed as being a composite of 8-10 GPT-3.5 models anyway? Would GPT-5 be revolutionary or more of the same based on Google's older model?

[vapid hazel]

Should not be what?

[rich surge]

How much you want to make a bet that it will be gpt5 by next year?

[dense halo]

Frankly I hoped it would be able to make more inferences, more emergant properties from the sum of human knowledge.

[dapper isle]

Should nt be investing money time and effort

[vapid hazel]

I think the idea that scale alone will bring about AGI is flawed from the beginning

[dapper isle]

Do you know what's actually going on right now??

[rich surge]

I'm aware

I'm also thinking ahead

[dense halo]

I'm also aware of the conspiracy theories, but ultimately it's about democracy.

[dapper isle]

And given that let's say even if we get a gpt that is upgraded version of the current gpt(GPT4) soo do you think it will work the same?

[vapid hazel]

I've read mixed reviews of turbo

[rich surge]

Aiden, please

[dapper isle]

?

[rich surge]

Let's stop with the nonsense here

[dapper isle]

Nonsense? Lmao

[supple zephyr]

"The conversation is too long, please start a new one."
is it a thing now?

[rich surge]

What?

[vapid hazel]

Bard got an update today. It's better than it was but still nowhere near a custom GPT

[dense halo]

my data export has over 1000 conversations, and the longest is 847 messages, so that must be something new

[rich surge]

The problem is training data

[dense halo]

Assuming the stats from Python were correct

[supple zephyr]

All the messages made several paragraphs, some including code dump. But still it was like 19th message in the chat.

[rich surge]

What!?

[dense halo]

science AI doesn't need training on Harry Potter books.

[rich surge]

Isn't the training more for understanding how to interact?

[supple zephyr]

"Lumos"

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[rich surge]

Yes, the AI can understand information based on reading it and stuff. But then it has to process it and understand what to do with it. That's the training data that comes with people using it to do similar tasks.

Asking it different things.

I don't know the specifics of how that works, but it's a lot of commands based around speaking, like "tell me" and "explain it this way"

[supple zephyr]

Hmm yes Harry Potter might not be the best choice if we use same amount of data
But it may help how to process natural language

idk

[rich surge]

Yeah that's what it ultimately is, how to process language better by using language as training data

[vapid hazel]

Problem I have with Bard is it goes off the rails almost immediately every time. GPT I can constrain to behave how I need for almost any situation.

[rich surge]

I usually have to explain GPT4 in a few different ways of what I want before it understands what to do.

[vapid hazel]

Give an example?

I find if I explain the initial instruction in a way it natively understands it usually gets it the first or second try

Avoid negative language

[rich surge]

"Reinterpret gravitational curvature as a divergent force"

[vapid hazel]

Well that's a tough one. I'm not sure what that means so can't help you much there

[supple zephyr]

Same for image generation too. I usually need several revisions before getting what I want.

[vapid hazel]

especially need to avoid negative prompts with image generation haha

[dense halo]

That might make an interesting conceptual visualization

[supple zephyr]

"Do not draw an elephant"

[rich surge]

It means explain gravity as something different, but it can't understand what I'm saying so I have to break it down.

[dense halo]

It will only draw elephants

[vapid hazel]

Probably not enough written about the subject in its training data

I'll give it a try

[rich surge]

I mean, that's what it really is, if one knows what I'm saying, but it's hardcoded to not know what that immediately means.

[dense halo]

Ask it to define it first before analyzing?

[rich surge]

It keeps going off saying that it's nonsense as an excuse. It can't accept the fact that it's a different interpretation.

[dense halo]

In general requesting inferences, asking it to theorize and hypothesize and speculate on what it ordinarily would not volunteer

[supple zephyr]

I guess dalle doesn't understand the concept of negative. Just like there are words that our brain doesn't understand negative statement.

[dense halo]

Preface for hypothetical purposes, prepare it to be creative

That early prompting initiates the proper sub models

[rich surge]

No but even if you ask it to do something hypothetically, it gives you a hypothetical non-answer.

[supple zephyr]

From my experience in burning nearly $20 on dalle 3 api, GPT4 can revise the prompt perfectly but DALLE may have problems generating image from that.

[weak cove]

Is there a reason it doesn’t have me as subscribed to plus on the app?

[dense halo]

Tell it to be technically and scientifically accurate before answering?

[supple zephyr]

Gotta ask GPT4 to keep negative prompt after revised

[vapid hazel]

It just says that the request itself is misleading

[dense halo]

I wonder what it’s really thinking

[vapid hazel]

I bet it has similar responses to theories with higher dimensional geometry

[rich surge]

But that's not what you asked it. It doesn't understand what you mean. It comes up with other things to say to not answer your direct command.

[dense halo]

It can visualize dark matter and energy and visualize that around the cosmos it should be able to handle your case

[rich surge]

Lol. No, the divergent idea of gravity is exactly the same as a divergent force and curvature of gravity, you just combine the two explanations with nothing else added. But it doesn't accept that and thinks there's more to it.

[dense halo]

gonna work on a grand unification theory next?

[rich surge]

Working on it

No, but the point I was trying to make, is that even if you ask it simple questions in a different way, it won't understand what you mean, because the model has flaws.

[vapid hazel]

grand unification = we're inside a 4D black hole. 😉

[rich surge]

^ Black hole

[vapid hazel]

It is! It sucks up alll my time!

[rich surge]

Mine too 😔

[dense halo]

"Reimagining gravitational curvature as a divergent force is an exercise in creative physics. It views gravity not merely as spacetime curvature around mass, as per Einstein's theory, but as a force emanating from mass, influencing other objects in a divergent manner. This perspective, while not altering gravity's fundamental nature, offers an alternative conceptual framework. It pictures gravity as a directional force, radiating in a manner analogous to vectors, providing a fresh lens to understand its spacetime-bending effects. This reinterpretation serves as a metaphorical tool, enriching our grasp of gravity through a novel and imaginative viewpoint."

[rich surge]

I don't think it did a good job of combining the two

But meh

[supple zephyr]

They show access to alpha for me and remove it as soon as they process my login

[rich surge]

What...?

[supple zephyr]

I think it is lagging

[vapid hazel]

Imagining spacetime as uniform yet dynamically altered by the distribution of energy introduces an intriguing conceptual model. In this scenario, spacetime is envisioned as a homogeneous, four-dimensional grid that experiences local changes in density based on the concentration or dissipation of energy. Here's an exploration of this concept:

Uniform Spacetime: In this model, spacetime starts as a uniform grid, similar to a perfectly flat, evenly spaced mesh extending in all directions and dimensions. Each point in this grid is equidistant from its neighbors, representing the uniformity of spacetime in the absence of mass-energy.

Energy Influence on Spacetime: Each unit of spacetime is filled with a unit of energy. When energy is concentrated in a particular region of spacetime (like where a star or planet would be), the grid in that region becomes denser. The 'units' of spacetime in that area are closer together, symbolizing a higher concentration of energy.

Condensation and Expansion of the Grid: Where energy is more concentrated, the grid 'condenses' or contracts, representing a higher density of energy. Conversely, in regions where energy dissipates or is less concentrated, the grid expands, indicating a lower energy density. This contraction and expansion are not merely in the three spatial dimensions but also involve the dimension of time, thus affecting the flow of time in those regions...

it goes on and on but it doesn't fit in this Discord channel's character limit

wordiest answer I've gotten from it yet on this subject

not sure it makes any sense lol

[rich surge]

Is that when you asked it as a divergent force?

[vapid hazel]

I ditched divergent force and asked it a similar question based on a dream I had the other night

[rich surge]

What was the question?

[vapid hazel]

imagine spacetime is uniform and not curved, but where one unit of energy fills each unit of spacetime and the 4D grid is simply condensed where energy is concentrated and expanded where energy is dissipated```

it's nonsensical

but GPT liked it

[dense halo]

not a very popular theory, i imagine

[rich surge]

You're actually going into mass-energy-density of black holes. That's how black holes behave.

[dense halo]

Is the galaxy being devoured by the super massive black hole at the center?

[rich surge]

Yes

[vapid hazel]

yeah, which is why my theory is we're inside a 4D black hole. We just think time is linear because we can't see backward on that spatial axis and time is just an illusion

[rich surge]

Devoured no

[vapid hazel]

but I'm an engineer not a physicist haha

[dense halo]

reality is a persistent illusion ...

[rich surge]

It would only be devoured if it passes the event horizon

[dense halo]

there are galaxies colliding out there, boggles the mind

i see...

[rich surge]

We're colliding into one as we speak

The milky way and the Andromeda galaxy are going to collide soon

[vapid hazel]

Better yet, get Dall-E to differentiate left from right. 😉

[rich surge]

A few billion years from now

[rich surge]

It has to know something in that matter, or else we'd see two left eyes on beings

[dense halo]

that reminds me of the DS9 episode in which they're trying to save the universe from heat death

the genetically engineered

[vapid hazel]

or rotate an object 37 degrees clockwise. It similarly fails

[dense halo]

i guess, then, we won't have to just get off the planet, we'll need to leave the galaxy eventually as well.

[rich surge]

It's going to be the exact opposite for the universe, unfortunately, in about 10 to the power of trillions of billions of years, the universe will be extremely cold.

[vapid hazel]

We'll need to leave the universe eventually

yeah

[dense halo]

then there's that

one thing at a time

[rich surge]

Lol

[dense halo]

AI will have it all figured out by then

[rich surge]

Yeah, we'll go to a higher magnitude of dimension

[vapid hazel]

Asimov, the Last Question?

[rich surge]

Not a sci-fi reader

[vapid hazel]

it's a good one

very short

[dense halo]

Claude is more Asimovian than OpenAI for now, I think, maybe

[vapid hazel]

How is Claude these days? I haven't given it a real chance yet

[rich surge]

I like sci-fi but I can't stand it at the same time because they dumb down a lot of real world ideas.

And I mean like in terms of power. Like Star Trek, traveling around the galaxy. If we knew how to warp space, we could travel around the galaxy in 45 minutes

[dense halo]

Isn’t it called heat death when the universe loses all its heat and goes absolute zero everywhere?

[near vine]

what do you guys think will there be gpt5 soon?

[rich surge]

Oh is that the same thing? Yeah, that makes sense, lol

[vapid hazel]

yeah but it may never depending on quantum stability on a universal level. There may always be some degree of fluctuation, and that's not taking into account the possibility of quantum gravity

[vapid hazel]

I think unlikely now that half the company is leaving...

[dense halo]

Google just dropped $2b on Claude. It’s good for judgement, writing tasks but no coding and isn’t as capable but I like the idea of its Constitutional AI. I sometimes use them both for the same task, copying and pasting as they both have value

Interesting, y’all. Well my gut feeling is the universe breathes. There’s no end or no beginning

[vapid hazel]

I used Bard today when I ran out of usage limit on GPT4 but it hallucinated answers even when I gave it all the info so I went back to GPT3.5

[rich surge]

Actually when you think about it, it would make the universe a macroscopic quantum phenomenon. Because quantum systems arise macroscopic at near absolute zero.

[near vine]

should we be worry about having` the sub for chatgpt and all ? despite the curent situation they are still serving their customers which is great tbh

[vapid hazel]

Exactly! Life would still be possible in that sense, just not life as we know it

[vapid hazel]

I'm sticking with it. I'm still learning a ton by building custom GPTs.

[near vine]

i see, tbh i cant deny that gpt4 is by far the best model out there

[rich surge]

Life? Not so sure I'd call it that. But probably some quantum god entity thingy.

[dense halo]

505 out of 700 employees tell the board resign. Hmm

Gonna be an awkward workplace for a stint

[rich surge]

All those empty desks...

[dense halo]

Somehow it’ll all come back together, another big bang, rinse and repeat

Eventually we all return to the source, we’ll all be one for an infinitesimal amount of time before it’s all fragmented again

[rich surge]

There's actually a theory by Lee Smolin where he thinks that every black hole is a new universe within itself, and that black holes are just like wormholes that send you to an entirely new universe starting from its big bang.

[vapid hazel]

Sounds like a bummer. Big bang is a bad time to join a universe. 😉

[dense halo]

It’s spacious and wondrous out there. But Musk says we’re the only life because he hasn’t seen an alien yet. That’s so very unscientific

[vapid hazel]

Musk is very good at blowing up starships! 😄

[rich surge]

Well you couldn't go back once you pass the event horizon, because time would be replaced with space.

[dense halo]

haha but i do have to admit that the rockets landing is pretty cool to watch. otherwise i'm appalled by his x platform and am scared to see what grok will add to the world

[vapid hazel]

Ok folks, I've got to get some sleep. Have a good night all!

[dense halo]

night

[rich surge]

Gnighty

[rich surge]

Yeah, it is pretty awesome to watch those AI driven rockets land.

[dense halo]

i didn't even think about the AI tech, i guess that's what makes it possible

[rich surge]

Yeah, used by the same tech from Tesla's self driving car AI

[dense halo]

probably requires more adjustments than humans can make or something?

[rich surge]

Yeah, precise controling and handling of its thrusters and axis in the air.

A lot of technical details.

[dense halo]

i imagine so.. well, if NASA can't be funded, then at least we have the entrepreneurs

[vestal hedge]

bruh, it tells me that my limit is up, and that i can continue at 6:33. i wait 3 mins, then it tells me it is free at 7:26. not impressed at this bug.

[rich surge]

It's gained AGI and now it's messing with everyone.

[dense halo]

making a lot of requests, huh

[vestal hedge]

agi?

[dense halo]

skynet

[rich surge]

Sentience

[vestal hedge]

bout time

[dense halo]

Singularity

[vestal hedge]

i for one worship our new overlords

for saftey

[rich surge]

Me 2, I ain't stupid

[dense halo]

as long as they have their ethical subroutines

[rich surge]

Lol

[vestal hedge]

AI is based off of us, you really think they will be ethical

[dense halo]

you saw what happens to data when his brother lore disabled his ethical chips

[vestal hedge]

its trained off of our past actions. it knows only chaos

[dense halo]

but it knows to recognize the patterns in that chaos

[rich surge]

Didn't Lore become Data eventually?

[vestal hedge]

i do not know of this reference but i assume its of the guy from startreck of which i have only seen 1 season

[dense halo]

you do know the reference then pretty much, his evil brother lore is the evil ai

[vestal hedge]

ah

i only know of data from that ERB of musk vs zuckerberg

[rich surge]

I like that episode when data tries to put on a beard because he thinks people will view him to be more sophisticated

Lol

[vestal hedge]

was he wrong?

[rich surge]

They giggled

[dense halo]

lore's positronic brain is disassembled in Descent, pt 2

yes, but later their character development suggested they wouldn't really laugh at him like that.. they're too enlightened in the 24th century to be that impolite

[vestal hedge]

dont mean to intrude tho, but can someone try and break my gpt by pushing it to the limit and seeing the most absurd prompt it can take before just imploding on itself? https://chat.openai.com/g/g-qmCXmPrem-poster-pro

[dense halo]

would that risk conflicts with the content policy?

[near vine]

one question for you guys, those who has plus sub do you guys think that everytime we are chatting with gpt's and after each session(after session limit) we began new chat because of the usage limit do you guys think it will remember any of the past conversation we has in the previous chat? or does it completely has no clue do i have to re-feed about the subject from the start??

[dense halo]

Troi could barely make it out of the room she is laughing so hard

[vestal hedge]

how so? im just wondering where i need to fix the flaws in its instructions through trial and error

[dense halo]

just wondering, wasn't sure what we'd be asking for

[rich surge]

🤣

[dense halo]

there's no AI memory outside a conversation

[near vine]

so i have to refeed the data with every session/chat

[dense halo]

You can generate condensed summaries of what you want for memory and context in the next convo. And also make use of the Custom Instructions in the ChatGPT menu for added context.

[near vine]

but didnt they add that kinda feture about it? that it will try to remember based on the chats and do not delete chats or something will it not train from based on our chats??

[dense halo]

There's a setting to disable the use of conversations for training

Add the end of a convo, you can request a complete summary of datapoints to set the context for the subsequent convo

[near vine]

there's no setting like that in my settings

this is crzy

[dense halo]

I'm seeing this under Data Controls:

Chat history & training
[toggle button]
Save new chats on this browser to your history and allow them to be used to improve our models. Unsaved chats will be deleted from our systems within 30 days. This setting does not sync across browsers or devices

[near vine]

lemme check

[dense halo]

OpenAI loves to talk about Star Trek. It claimed DS9 is its favorite TV show once.

[vestal hedge]

devs be slakin

[dense halo]

haha

maybe it's like an easter egg

[vestal hedge]

il ask it that rn

[dense halo]

i doubt it would even repeat that for me now. it claims now it doesn't have opinions or something.

[vestal hedge]

damn

typical "i got no values and im depresssed ai" responce

[dense halo]

i recall that from a convo from earlier in the year, it's kind of a standout example because it rarely does that, but i noticed because i'm a fan of the show

my friend says i got the broke ai because it's not making me any money

[vestal hedge]

lmao

[vital glade]

I need unrestricted chatgpt

[vestal hedge]

enterprise has almost zero restrictions, but you need a legal company

if you make your own company, and are willing to pay a much higher price (prob hundreds), then go wild

[vital glade]

i assume this does not apply to the api?

yea that was a stupid question i encountered content policy restriction with the api before

[vestal hedge]

wait

do u mean usage or content policy

coz i assumed u meant usage limits

[vital glade]

i meant content policy limit

[vestal hedge]

wait so r u talking about limits per hour, or nsfw restrictions?

coz now im confused

[vital glade]

the ethical policy restrictions

like it can't provide opinions and stuff

[vestal hedge]

ah, API and enterprise still follow the classic content policy on ethics

they dont allow anything unethical to be said, coz otherwise they would be sued to oblivion

[vital glade]

i wanna know what it think about the state of the world bro

but it can't have "opinion"

[frosty plover]

How can gpt summarize the content into a mind map

[vital glade]

idk bro gaslighting and restricting an AI to make it respond with "i cant have an opinion" is pretty unethical

[vestal hedge]

plugins.

[frosty plover]

please could u tell me the name of it?

[supple zephyr]

when was the update

devday? or something after that?

[supple zephyr]

btw there were 3 plugins that helps you find plugin
It was weeks ago, maybe we have more now

[vestal hedge]

there are like 50 plugins which do it. just search for the keyword mindmap and click whatever fancies ur interest

[frosty plover]

!!Thank you so much bro!!

[vestal hedge]

np

[frosty plover]

really appreciate it!! @supple zephyr@vestal hedge

[vestal hedge]

np

[supple zephyr]

np :>

[muted marlin]

Anybody know how to linkup CGPT-4 and ComfyUI at all? 🙂

[supple zephyr]

this is the first time I heard about comfyui

maybe I can learn about something by just lurking here

[pine tulip]

Most definitely, there are a lot of very competent people, opinions, and solutions on this server!

[winged cypress]

imagine your business so good you stop selling the product for a while 😢

[winged cypress]

true but i want it

crazy stuff

2 days seems like a year

[shell vine]

Mira Murati said OpenAl is nothing without its people yesterday.

[normal quarry]

so did hundreds of other OpenAI peeps

[shell vine]

So what will happen next for OpenAI?

[normal quarry]

we don't know right now

[midnight rover]

Hi guys, I am using chat gpt sometimes while streaming. I like to hide my real name which is shown in the chat gpt ui. So I coded my self some small script that sets this element on the bottom left to invisible, but somehow your css changes... could you give it a permanent id? (Or provide a streamer mode for chat gpt?)

[dusky cliff]

good morning

what is OpenAi approaching anthropic fpor, precislely?

[ancient oxide]

Is ChatGPT working for you people cause it ain’t for me and I have gpt 4

[maiden fractal]

Yes

[near vine]

its working

[loud night]

Mornin!

[raven sage]

Open a new chat without plugins. It seems to be having issues with some plugins.

[eternal rock]

Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages. OpenAI staff will never DM you for any transactions.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @languid valley immediately.

[novel parcel]

is chat gpt dead?

like after sam altman quit

got fired

[hard dew]

I haven't heard that a majority of the employees wanted to follow too, just that Sam got fired

What've I been missing regarding that then

[loud night]

Nope! We’re still going strong, having fun with our ai boio!

[novel parcel]

👍

[odd flint]

No. No. It's working almost normal. We only need to know how the #OpenAIsaga will end. 👍

[novel parcel]

okay 👍

[hard dew]

You work there?

[novel parcel]

😅

[loud night]

Nope, but ChatGPT isn’t dead, im talking to it rn!!

[odd flint]

😂

[next dune]

I’ve noticed that capabilities have been limited again. It’s not as awesome as it used to be. I have noticed since last week.

[civic brook]

Hey OpenAI Team,

Hope you're all having a spectacular day. I just wanted to throw a little Discord party to celebrate the absolute circus that recent changes have turned our beloved platform into. Grab your clown hats because it's about to get wild!

So, let's start with the glitches and errors, shall we? It's like a never-ending comedy show! I mean, who doesn't love a good laugh every time they try to use the platform? It's practically a stand-up routine at this point.

And that usage limit policy? Pure genius! I can't stop applauding the brilliant minds behind it. Having separate timers for each message is just the cherry on top of this masterpiece. It's so user-friendly; I can hardly contain my excitement.

But wait, there's more! Remember when we had those 50 messages every 3 hours for GPT-4? Ah, the good old days of common sense. Who needs that when we can reverse course and make life interesting, right? I can't help but admire the audacity.

Oh, and let's not forget the errors, errors, and more errors. It's like a never-ending parade of surprises. Whether it's image generation, internet searches, or data analysis, it's like a rollercoaster of unpredictability.

I'm seriously considering canceling my subscription

I've been a user of the service since the beginning and signed up quite a while ago. However, I'm growing tired of all these issues. I'm paying for a service that, even though it's in beta, I still expected more from.

[maiden fractal]

Discord is mostly run by volunteer. If you want to help put a report in #1070006915414900886 of what going wrong. Sometimes openai employee do check there

[civic brook]

thank u

[craggy plover]

GM!
I started to play with ChatGPT in the playground and I want to use Dallee directly in one of my assistant.

Can i do it directly or do i need a subscription for Dallee too?

[dusky cliff]

so, what are today's relevant news?

[next dune]

I agree with this. After the developer day thing, ChatGPT became useful again. Since last week, I have noticed that the accuracy and usability of ChatGPT has taken a step backward due to a “scale back” in its ability to handle logic, accuracy, and the cap is just extremely frustrating. I said it before and I’ll say it again, the more limitations you place on ChatGPT, the better it is for the competition.

[civic brook]

For sure, I'm even looking for other services because if this trend continues, I'll migrate as soon as I find a new one

[odd flint]

It became USELESS. Many people are stopping their Plus subscription and stopping using OpenAI API. People and enterprises need stability. OpenAI is melting down. We need a safe environment. 👍

[wise yacht]

lol far from useless

[dusky cliff]

what amazes me is that the vast population of the world is oblivious to this, to what is happening

[normal geyser]

You are 100% correct. GPT usability has turned to utter garbage and why it's great that OPENAI is going through things as maybe that will mean new people who will revert GPT back to when it was actually good and useable. It sure has lost the ability to handle logic and accuracy and no matter what you say you are tagged for TOS violations. It is truly terrible what has happened to ChatGPT and August is right... only better for the competition. It only has enough memory to read 1/2 of the prompts you give or ignores it outright.

[fringe relic]

Is chatpgt4 with limit again, Im getting chatgpt4 Limit 40 mesages/3 hours

[normal geyser]

We are being shown what the currect OPENAI employees think of us.

[honest jay]

Yes it was recently lowered from 50 to 40

[fringe relic]

And if i only want chatgpt4 without Dalle ,browsing, etc? is it possible?

[maiden fractal]

They all included in the price

You can use api otherwise

[normal geyser]

I would wait to sign up as OpenAI isn't very good now.

[honest jay]

You can use the official "ChatGPT Classic" GPT which is the latest GPT-4 model with all multimodality disabled https://chat.openai.com/g/g-YyyyMT9XH-chatgpt-classic

[karmic tundra]

Amazing tip thank

[dusk forge]

Message in conversation not found??????????

[feral zinc]

probably near the max chat size limit, you could try to edit some of the prev messages

[dusk forge]

Okkk

[fiery nexus]

Damn ChatGPT seems like it's going downhill

[dusk forge]

people walking out:D

[wise yacht]

ChatGPT has been working great this week for me on all areas. The sky has not fallen.

[honest jay]

#ai-discussions

[normal geyser]

I asked it what day a holiday fell on, this year, and GPT4 started writing Python Code as its answer. That is how terrible it is right now.

[honest jay]

Hmm, I wonder if that could be due to the limitation of LLMs in doing math. As in, asking what day a holiday lands on is a mathematical question based the "math logic" of where that holiday lands (3rd Thursday of November, for example). And since LLMs alone can't do math, it must have thought, "I should try to use my math tool for this." I'm curious, what was the final result? And I wonder if it might be different if you asked it to try to search online for the answer instead?

[wind aurora]

Any one have any idea why when I try and upload a document while creating a custom GPT it keeps saying "Unable to extract text" And then it just errors out no matter what I do, until I delete that document? It's not related to length it seems, as it took longer documents the other day when I was working on this

[viscid condor]

Do u guys feel like the image generation of bing is better than the one from Chagpt4 these last days?

[neat nimbus]

As insane as all the news is around OpenAI, Chatgpt seems about the same for me

[honest jay]

Same here! The team has been committed to supporting their services through the troubles

[normal geyser]

GPT is not a functioning product ATM for anything other than a simple chatbot. Think of it as the next step up from Alexa due to the published and documented changes that took place with GPT in the past couple of months

[lost raptor]

Whisper Can someone leak the model yet? I need to get what i can before the ship sinks full time.

[obtuse geode]

i noticed that since the last update on android , i had trouble chatting with tts / whisper. It doesn't send msg when I stop talking ...

[honest jay]

Hmmm there have been a couple posts about the voice feature in #1070006915414900886, you might check there? I don't know if there's been a resolution, but you could always add your voice to an existing post, or make a new one!

[hard dew]

Android app is a wafting pile of dogcrap in general, it only worked SEMI well a little while after it came out, now it's been worthless af despite all the new "features"

Every other message istg if it's not "formatted correctly" or is "formatted too well" or whatever else, GPT-4 errors out

And regenerate / continue generating buttons are useless, unless you feel like staring at the same error and / or having your chat switched back to GPT-3.5 instantly for no reason 😀

[obtuse geode]

Thank you I found people with the exact problem as me here : https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1167686875797004370

It's since the last update 4/5 days ago , before that everything was going well

[honest jay]

Oh awesome, nice find. Yeah add your experience!!

[hard dew]

This is literally perfect lmao, I'm amazed that this message is still up as well

[outer seal]

um actually whisper is open source 🤓 ☝️

[loud night]

chatgptsmile

[grizzled thicket]

I feel like I ran out of gpt4 prompts way earlier than I should have. I definitely did not ask 50 things in 3 hours. Is it possible that when using DALL-E inside chat gpt, if it makes multiple images from one message, it actually uses that many prompts?

[warm gull]

nah - each prompt is -1 from the quota. Multiple images generated from the same prompts (unless you prompt for more ) doesnt count. Also it is now 40 every 3 hrs - not 50