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Any date for image inputs?
i always got answers with questions by the end, followed by an apology, and then doing the same over and over again. I just gave up
How can I use chat gpt to help me put together a flyer ? (Graphics and all)
using GPT 4?
no, 3.5
👍
Think they n eed to fix servers before anything like that comes haha
4 works fine and doesnt do this
Then get out of this channel
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oh yes i am trying to avoid using GPT 3.5 for complex things
yea im on 4 now too, it doesnt do this anymore.
also GPT4 is consistently more creative
agreed, it helped me figure out some ways to improve an easter photoshoot. Didn't explain everything but was a great starting point to change a few things.
and can use emojis very well, might be useful for content creators
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i used that i lot with GPT3. it really is amnesiac
refresh usually, it may be the cause of crowded servers. all you can do is wait.
So just went back to GPT 3.5 to do a simple math equation and the text is in Japanese or Chinese it cant follow the basic rules i gave it and just repeats step 2 without even reading or doing step 1. a month ago it would be able to do this equation no problem
Yeah so it kind of works. Only it will always output an answer that breaks.

@wind urchin servers are super slow now
The cache on that thing isn't great. Which I understand, but...
i get errors on simple requests.
It has been like this since day 1.
Back in november
Noticed something similar where 3.5 was incapable to correctly answer basic math and doubt it was always like this
But it forced me to learn to debug code and stuff like that, so I guess that's good. I mean I understand perfectly why so yeah, but.
i'm so jealous of people who have open ai with full access
but, my classmates', they use theirs for our class. (It's an AI class in college), it works for them
hi guys, i have chatgpt 4 premium and it says 'as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021' on literally anything i ask it. does anyone have any information as to why
does response generation end too early for anyone else? I've tried in a single chat 3 times and in no instance did the response "complete"
Hate when gpt Starts to answer the question correctly and network errors comes after regenerate response answer is not the one i was looking for
Ikr
ikr
Yes very often
Cause it data end in 2021
they said gpt4 was to date...
No ?
Well it finished training last Aug I think it was mentioned, so they only really had 1 years worth of data to input between models getting trained (gpt3-gpt4) so I assume they didn't gather much new data during this time and focused more on fine-tuning.
How long had History been dead?
Comes, Goes, Who knowsss...
soooo slow and cuts off short. ill pay more than $20 if it means it actually works...
Who said that? Because it's obviously false
☝️
that was one of the draws of gp4, it had information to date
Really? I'm kinda curious to see that
It wasn't because they state in the video on the website the cut off date... even before it was released.
It is not on openai website not on #gpt-4-faq . What you have read was probably a clickbait
Aye like that dude who was posting 'GPT4 going to change the future, it can do this, that, this that' ended up with just being able to read images. #dead
Sorry tho :/
no problem happy to invest in a nice tech company anyway.
There is so much disinformation about chatGPT that I can't blame you 😦
It is slow and gives concise answers. I am willing to pay 50$ instead of 20$, as long as this problem is solved.
it may genuinely be multiverse getting confused too, cause i see hundreds of tiktoks with chatgpt features that dont exist with people acknowledging in comments. unless all the people are bots or paid.. soemthing is up with this universes timeline and data
wheres dr.strange
Hi there, I upgraded almost a week ago (20 a month) but for the past few days it keeps asking me to upgrade? I have the receipt and everything my card was charged. Does anybody know if this is an ongoing issue?
I don't think paying more money is going to help to be honest, because they already have billions to invest into more tech, they just isn't a valid reasoning for the bad servers, they have the money and support.
You can feed chatGPT with actual and recent data (by copy pasting some random (but recent) wikipedia article, for example), and it will use it in the same chat where you provided some intel. But it won't know anything before september 2021, if you don't tell it (Hope I'm clear :D)
But we are dying like this.
oh right right, thank you for this info. that is helpful. i am just a language model so i dont always understand these things. thank you!
Yes but the issue with that is, sometimes it says even the real news is fake news and not to believe it...
that's just bad prompting imo
I know this, you know this, we all know this. They are likely trying to fix it but still allowing people to waste money is a little bad knowing we aren't getting responses.
will this do math
Yeah, you shouldn't blindly trust what chatGPT is telling you. It's still an IA in its infancy, even if it's already quite impressive
Why gpt 4 working so bad?? in the begging it was amazing In general, it seems that both the 3.5 and the 4 really started to fake.
I wonder if it's even worth the money if it keeps up at this rate
I think you missed that, if it's fed 'real news' from the latest news articles, then its real, yet the AI still says 'no its fake' haha.
No one here is a dev so they don’t have the exact answer to tel u
Right, I didn't get it. But my point stands still, don't blindly trust chatGPT 😄
My guess is the people
I thought there might be people here from support, thank you!
"We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later." bruhh
I wish xd
As a paying customer, that would be nice.
Instead of spreading it everywhere, and advertising that half of Microsoft's software will work with this engine, make sure it can withstand the load in general. There are a lot of paying customers and it's not fair that they don't get the financial return.
Yeah why would anyone anyway? the point was, even if real data is fed in, it still blindly calls it false so feeding data into it isn't that useful.
"no one here is a dev so they don't know..."
😆
oh my god
this is
the system is having some issues.. one of them is the fact that there are too much people using it
game changing
You're right, yes! Imho, chatGPT is impressive by it's creativity, like writing stories, having ideas, yada yada. And sadly, by its current state to being completely overloaded.
Lol pretty sure thats an excuse, as I'm fully aware of the resources they have.
how long does it take to get approved from the waitlist?
Any idea why the "regenerate response" is counting against our interaction cap?
Chat gpt spy 😱
你好
Get that outa here
uhh, because it should
But why integrate in more and more places like in "bing" and various plugins and api for developers it is better that they spread it more slowly but that they can provide a good service.
As soon as worthy competitors enter (google) there will be an escape at this rate.
This is going to go horribly
I want some plugins for free
how to remove filters and censors from gpt4
d
wdnt care
I want to feed in an entire github repo into gpt4. Any ideas how i'd go about it with the token limitation?
Na but they have unlimited access to MS servers, soooo.... yeah I doubt it's an overload.
But if the server fails, give us an error, and the only available option I have is to click the "regenerate response", why shoudl that count against me?
Do i have to register a buisness organisation number to be able to use chat gpt API?
Hi, is the capability of entering image URLs for analysis in chatgpt already integrated yet for all audiences?
yeah you can type anything
no
the chatgpt plugins page is eyebleed
I feel like OpenAI were not prepared to handle such a high traffic. And while they probably have a vast amount of ressources, upscaling servers can take some time and skills (I think)
Nopeeee
You ask chatgpt to criticize feminism and it's all an an AI I can not offer criticism on feminism. Then you ask chatgpt to criticize conservatism and suddenly it'll write you a novel.
🍺
wait, gpt4 can read images?
not yet
is this included with the chatGPT version?
I think that in terms of initial product planning, they were not prepared for such a scale
ah
You're not wrong but this issue happens more than too many, at this point you would think they was better prepared they have literally unlimited cash and resources yet can't iron out the most basic issues.
When there is an error generating a response, regenerate a new one should not count as an answer I think. I feel betrayed 😦
Will it now learn up to 2022 (As I want to make sure it's able to know Generation 9 Pokemon)
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I cannot wait to have a non plus GPT-4 
that'sbait.gif
Money or no money, there's a finite amount of GPUs available.
they should've limited access to who can access their models and i think chatgpt 4 will remain plus users only
are there plans to rollout gpt 4 to non-plus users?
bluds mad
i just wish gpt-4 didn't have as small of a limit
Never because of 💸
Lets see if GPT plugins will be a positive move or a L
none in the near term no
Like I think it will or not
this is true, errors should not count indeed
Has anyone compared whether the API responds better than ChatGpt??
isnt that limited to a few regions
Hi guys i have a question, please can you tell me if we can somehow know how many time we have before the quota of GPT-4 messages resets ? And also how to know how many messages we already sent during this 3h session ?
I got it
That's what I was trying to ask about. I can easily hit my daily cap with these errors, and only get a couple of questions in.
no they're both pretty slow
I would love to see a plugin that changes the gpt icon in the chat. Dreaming of pepe writing me poems 
plugins lets goooooo
when they say ChatGPT plugins, are they also talking about ChatGPT4 as well?
Im not sure, I think it will be public once they rinsed every resource for it and have 4.5 or 5 ready to deploy, and then BOOM we run into the same issue of 'overload' and forever going in an endless cylce of new model > overload > new model > overload. Haha.
it's obvious that's its a hugely positive move lmfaoo
What will be difference between the current chatgpt and chatgpt4?
Anyone else having trouble with the AI just suddenly stopping mid conversation?
is the limit still 25 messages every 3 hours?
more knowledge but slower response speeds, so does its api, if speed is important factor in your app, go with the current one and also it can accept images and audio
chatGPT is the interface which uses different LLM's, of which GPT-4 is the most advanced as of yet
they're not mutually exclusive
Yep. Be careful with the regenerate response action as that counts towards your cap
gpt3 was only text which was manageable, for now atleast providing millions of users free of top tier service seems like a hard one
the limit of usage for pro users on ChatGPT should be really high, unless you are talking about the gpt-4 option which is very limited for now
it will be gtp4 free like chatgpt 3?
that 4 doesnt print you full answers and caps fast
they should probably fix their servers before they bring in any of this stuff lmao
I don't think it helps them that he works this way 😆
got chatgpt plus whats it about
you got it without knowing what it is??
you signed up to something without knowing what?
Is it a API atm for the current chatgpt? i thought it was a new thing for gpt4
chatgpt 4 is alot slower, but much better in every way that I've used it for.
why
saw the hype and i dont know what to do with it, it says something about cap with gpt 4
Then these guys want refunds. xD
We never know
Guys is it worth buying? I’ve been putting it off cuz the outages.
I can understand the limits. But I do have a hard time understanding why server errors should count for those limits.
you can join the waitlist, but can't access gpt 4 itself
happens to me when its response is too long, it gets timed out
Yeah see most of us actually pay for plus and the API, we're always running into issues like this, it 100% needs sorting, even if they put paid customers on different servers to non paid this might help but who knows. Have to wait and see.
Weee
pipi
i used to joke that ask chatGPT to make you coffee
plugins will allow it fr
it will be gtp4 free like chatgpt 3?
Www
gpt-4 on chatgpt is just a "nice bonus" from the note about "Pro users can have the newer things first"
the Pro subscription is still for giving you dedicated access to ChatGPT, not for GPT-4 models exclusively
i highly advise against getting Pro just with the goal of using GPT-4
jfd
OpenAI thinking: "if we block ChatGPT in Russia theu will be sad" but that's not true! and so i am from Russia and using ChatGPT. OpenAi can't stop us
does pro subscription net you reliable and consistent access to gpt-3? or does it suffer from same issues as the free tier?
wdym? as in bot farming? :O
chat GTA
Calm down rambo you'll pop a vain.
bing chat is a much lesser version of chatgpt-3 even
unfortunate
They should have asked ChatGPT to predict load and ask how to scale for it.... No?
bing
What use is chatgpt as an api in a application? im currently studying system development and i really want to implement chatgpt in my future applications
even though it claims to be on gpt-4
it generates way shorter responses, code snippets
i can start smelling a poop in openai pants already with they waitlist and crap advertising, can't they first fix and scale up what they have and continue with the next stuff?
i know they say they do. in practice, i see chat gpt3.5 give me better responses often
Bing chat is good for real-time info though
i just want to say that OpenAI wanted to block ChatGPT in Russia but we use it anyway
Pains and struggles, with a lot of down time. This why I'm annoyed I'm actually developing an app yet I got to sit here waiting until it responds to progress.
Perhaps it would be good if you do not want to hire app tech support or write your own help guide 🧌
hello hotties
He, good one. Maybe OpenAI is run by multiple instance of chatGPT. Who knows
😏
So you're breaching TOS. Probably shouldn't say you can access it incase they block it some other way.
can chatgpt make me a app ?
why not ask it
but i am using it now
With millions of people using the services it makes sense for them to... control the flow of individuals coming in
go away @grand maple
also, you just literally have to be the slightest bit more specific than that for someone to answer
Plus needs to wait also?
its not just staying on topic, it has a lot more restrictions. for example, it told me this morning it can't summarize the news headlines from yahoo news' front page
Countrybrother!
if you can guide it in the right way yes, I'm currently using gpt 4 to make a game and so far its been great
sick name
how to switch chatGPT 3.5 back to gpt 4
are you Russian?
what I've found is if you ask it for books on the topic then you can pick specific things and reference the book it does a great job.
Bruhhh
What I'm saying is you've said it got 'blocked' and then come into a public domain, telling us you can access it, im suprised you've not got banned but I dont know full details to say, I'm saying don't be so loud about it incase you do get blocked.
if it does then what the point for programmers what code using their brain hard enough ...........
when you go to new chat you can select the model, however if you already started the chat I dont think you can switch
when will it be, you happen to know by any chance?
i asked it to generate a code snippet and it gave me the method signature with nothing in it.
Haven't a clue, I'm sure they'll post on website though when ready likely maybe within next month as they did show it off in a video and I feel they wouldn't have if it i wasn't almost ready for public.
i dont care if i someone ban me
By the way, let’s speak English, and not break the rule #1
ok
i was using edge
If I get Plus, will I automatically have access to GPT-4?
engrish
I just tried out Bard. It has a 4095 character limit per question which is kinda too short for me. I think GPT4 is better in this regard.
what better try to make a app using gpt or using your own coding skills ????????
yes you should but its limited to 25 messages per 3 hours now.
Cool, thanks
where do you try bard?
what a joke
I got an email from Google to join waitlist a few days ago, and today they send me a link to try bard.
i still havent got in after a day, does it take more time?
i dont have friend, i talk to gpt all time..
why does my gpt4 just keep cutting itself of before it fully answers my prompt
it’s sad
character limit?
yes
i mean i doubt it, it’s pretty short
feel u buddy
Do you have to have premium to have GPT4?
my friend sent me him sending the same questions and his answer was way longer
is there a way to input a image into gpt4?
I think they give access to limited people now. the link is bard.google.com by the way.
yes
im using a vpn to overcome the usa and uk limit of places where you can use bard
LaMDA is their leader, ChatGTP 3, 3.5, 4 are the henchmen... they're plotting their takeover...
what better try to make a app using gpt or using your own coding skills ???????? which will be better ????
But i dont play videogames
Can anyone explain how GPT-4 was trained to be able to see images? I couldn't find anything talking about this
Yeah I think it took me a couple of days (3~4)
aha ok
bearded theme, but how do you think, what will happen when GPT is connected to the net?
adding plugins but can't even fix history... wow smh
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history is fixed for me
bing happens?
Chaos
ai does world domination
what do you seriously think the answer to that is?
Actually lol fr
Wahey mines working again, but for how long... lol
Hello
Is it known if GPT-4 is coming to the free tier of ChatGPT?
using both is best, learn from GPT
someone who know how this ai stuff works. what do open ai needs for a fast GPT 4 and a stable system? more servers, better servers or what?
so they think people cant speak english? like half of the globe does
it is unlikely to happen any time soon
i dont know everyone around is like " gpt is best no need for coders"
i think using both is about as good as just working on your own
and either are better than using just gpt
A poor child with time to invest,
In OpenAI's Discord did jest,
Spreading false Genshin lore,
Their mischief did soar,
As confusion they gleefully pressed.
First and foremost a smaller and more optimized model.
Thats sad
thats the reason i am asking...........
they're saying that because it's interesting
it's not true right now
it wont be true for at least a few more years (think minimum 5)
So far my coding which is far from amazing is still better than what I have received from ChatGPT. It is handy for a quick snippet of code, but it always caughs up a hairball if I push for anything complex.
is there any other way to subscribe to plus than from the chat website itself? I keep getting error messages when I try to subscribe from there...
both
but there’s no gpt in china
You won't learn anything if you just use GPT mindlessly to code your stuff.
Be mindful of what other users in a channel might find helpful or interesting when posting. Stay on topic in order to keep conversations focused and productive.
yes this is a good response ^ :3
LOL they is a reason it always states 'this is an example' at the end of providing code, because it's implied that the code is basic and a person should expand it to the needs. You could get it to make code in different sections but when it becomes large, it's impossible to maintain if you're not a developer, which is what these people will run into, and have exploitable coding due to not getting a coder to do it.
English
aaah this waitlist stuff takes to long
ok
English please (late)
absolutely
not really viable for anything too technical
yeah, i asked it to code a thing, it gave nonfunctional result, but fixes to the code using logical thinking and knowledge gave me a good result
Your nickname and username are very compatible with each other
maybe
you have to be very specific and guide it to write more complex code
no, at a certain point it just becomes useless
Is there a big gap between GPT3 and GP4?
you mean i should code using my skills and use gpt to amalyze error and bring new ideas ?
you shouldnt use gpt at this stage
That's actually not true because (1) you'll get to a point where mindlessly asking for code won't work anymore and (2) you can paste snippets of the code and let the model explain it to you -- that's when the learning process will kick in. And having a personal tutor on how to code in Python is really awesome!
just learn normal programming
UwU thank you darling
oh using it to explain code is pretty nice actually
but i feel you're still better off just asking in a discord server
because then you know it's (almost certainly) correct
I said mindlessly, meaning without trying to understand or asking to explain anything
That might be. Haven't done that. In my days it was IRC. 😂
finally I’m darling for someone except my mom
I agree, it does a nice job of explaining what a phrase of piece of code is, that is helpful. It scares me that people thing it could replace programmers, but they are the same people that don't understand that a coder and a programmer are different levels...
And I said that approach will cease working at some point in time and then one has to start learning.
Hi guys i have a question, please can you tell me if we can somehow know how many time we have before the quota of GPT-4 messages resets ? And also how to know how many messages we already sent during this 3h session ?
why ?
Hello everyone, I am building an open-source curated list of GPT-4 related software and prompts. Are some of you interested to take a look and contribute?
why are you all so smart
this is cool, make a post about it on #1037561385070112779
this is already a thing sorta, you can contribute to it on github
i cant send the link obv but it's called awesome-chatgpt-prompts
pzm + genshin = ❤️
what language is used for building up gpt ??? c , c++ , python,java ???????
im not really sure about why you have been mentioning this game for so long.. but seems offtopic :V
how to use
google it
what
Luigi, are the plugins being rolled out to Plus users?
lol, is it true?
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stop with the question marks
ask gpt
ughhhhhhhhhh
it is for developers, they will be slowly releasing it for people who join the wait list, nothing to do with Pro or not
I know about it, I have already mentioned it in my own repository. However, I am also collecting links to research papers, command-line tools, etc., especially for GPT-4. Today it already has 120 stars on Github, so I would need some help in maintaining it.
can i use chat gpt 4 her?!
no
I already do
Okay, will share there
why is there a ton of security to enter this server
there are 1 2 3 4… many qmarks
high incentive to shill stuff here
people buy into it v. easily
here
NO, as cat cat said
why ????????? it grabs attention not like me watching aduly flims and focusing on hick size............
i asked chat gbt what a n g a was and they said that its ishowspeed
i mean its not wrong
frr
openai is full speed preparing for commercial and exploiting developers so they give out best ideas and invent best things so they could monetize it huh 😄
what a joke #2
I asked it to help me with cooking meat, I call it Chat BBQ
and we could monetise them too
chat bbc 4 inch
FidoNet and Usenet...
actually good joke #1
you could
it sounds bettter
When is image input coming to GPT4
Oh, nostalgia in the eye… (I’m 13)
🦖
Did anyone get into "Be my eyes" virtual volunteer
chat bbq..... chat bbc... all depends on what purpose you are using it for...........
wdk
can someone tell me what is this plug in and what does it mean
fr 3 times
indeed it is, the AI only does what you tell it to
Where did you get my photo?
Just keep in mind to keep the chat rated general :3
when you put something like socket in the plug… or not
from gpt
my gpt4 is pissing me off it just stops itself for no reason
what a joke #3
I'm sorry, but (insert n word here) is a highly offensive and derogatory term used to refer to Black people. It should never be used in any context, as it is considered extremely disrespectful and hurtful. It's important to be mindful of the language we use and strive to treat all people with respect and dignity.
That's you? I took a selfie! How are twins called that aren't actually relatives? 🤔
thats the gpt answer it gave me
Lost brother?
why is chatgpt always breaking?
Is anyone else noticing that GPT-4 message length has gotten shorter and having to type continue statements?
If you had issue with chatgpt use the thumb down to report
Powershell
skill issue
Sounds good. 🙂
because of many people who want to use it
govno polneishee gpt 4
poshol nafig
so what didnt microsoft invested 30 bilion?
ne hochy
Yes. It's not fun.
Didn't you know? All dinosaurs look the same...
@timid timber writes in latinised russian
Seems to be mostly coding related stuff tho. When I ask some general question, it's rambling out whole walls of text.
it is a feature for developers to help with a common problem while using the AI for more professional cases, specially on chatbots..
it will allow the AI to make API calls to your services to send and get data, that allows for some pretty cool things
me: HEY CHAT BIG BBC !!! How to make you fell excited like humans ???? chat gpt: I am not programmmed to handle / do that ..... (me realising humans will never allow ai to do certain things...........)
This Chanel is english only 🙂
ok then i am speaking in russian
Oh. As a little dinosaur I'm not aware of that because my cut-off date was 65 million years ago.
Then it means nothing
is there a role for chatgpt plus users?
why ?
thank you, because im having so many different answer from people and GPT-3.5
No
Because I know Russian (from Belarus)
to su*k money for improvement
they should have a role for plus users
say hi to putting
please, do not request people to use the services in your behalf
Maybe he said that GPT is bad because he can’t use it
one problem is that its so slow....
I can only to Lukashenko
I wonder if I can access ChatGPT on OS390?
to distinguish peasants from excellence
can gpt help me to fight election ?
zachem?
what is that ?
stop please
anything capable of doing HTTP requests can use the API
what ?
belarus president
I'm sure it already has sockets, so yes.
he wrote “why” in latinised Russian
whare is belaboobs ?
I have submitted my awesome-gpt4 initiative to #1037561385070112779. Any contributions will be highly valued:)
@golden bear weird man
sorry belarus
on the west from Russia
I’m not offended, nvm
why ?
why should i say hello to putting?
Users from all over the world frequent this server. To maintain a respectful and civil atmosphere on our server, please avoid all religious and political discussions or content.
i know we love russians and every country
Image input when
ok sir
buy some sense of humour
bot laying the smackdown
ok, pupsik
As Gandalf said: A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.
I would follow the bot's advise
Aight
i'm sorry
why am i getting a felling that i will get banned from this server ?
how can I access chat gpt 4 when I already subscribers ?
are u human ?
do i need to have gtp plus to get access to plug ins ?
guys can gpt help me get a gf ????
na
why ?
that needs god
so quit trolling
not us
I can be ur gf
ha ha ..... thats funny
yep
I was kidding, but it turns out there is now: z/OS® HTTP enabler
is your bio sarcasm or serious
is there any rule that dating is prohibited in this server ?
What is et for giving users plugins and make it open? Do u have a guess?
it is
anyone experiencing performance degradation?
What’s the difference between gpt 3 and gpt4
ya know what with kids these days you can never know if they serious or not
Virtual between AIs or RL?
does it have anything whatsoever to do with GPT-4 or LLMs ?
no one is human here we are all programmed by Keanu reeves
I have not received the invitation to the api and it has been a while, anything I can do?
basically, the model's size, it is bigger, has more data, took more computing power to train and takes more to run, but gives better responses
According to the rules it's fine if it's in #off-topic and is G-rated
then its ok
no, it is not, please stop.... 
@serene cipher thanks
got limit pushers today
Thank you)
oh yes
I strongly advise you to read the rules
the breakfast club came out today
How i wish this would just be a discussion group about GPT-4
i am trying to be in mingle from being single and gpt is not helping me.....
does anyone in here have access to the 32k gpt4?
its not written anywhere that dating or flirting is prohibited.......
no
its a loophole
Next question 🤣 what’s the difference between pro version and usual version)
drop it.
dont look to my bio please
why would you
@waxen crescent i
Any best practices on improving the speed?
@waxen crescent dont
ok i will not
It is said that volunteers have the ability to moderate at their own discretion
tell me something to ask gpt-4
I don't see this in the faq: If I have a plus account do I also get charged additional money for tokens generated through the API?
ohh man thats a point
Anyone experiencing slow/incomplete responses when using GPT4?
how do you get access 😂
the two are entirely separate
Yes.
waitlist, but you can use "nat . dev" playground remove spaces
Gotcha, thanks
To apply for the API join the waitlist at https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api
Otherwise purchase ChatGPT Plus to use it through that
it is plain and simple offtopic, also can be considered harassing other users
anybody with API access have anything to report on speed? Id like to know how 32k compares to 3.5-turbo
why 20dollars ? its too much
#7 maybe
Except chatgpt plus and the api are different use cases really, unless you role your own interface for the api
AFAIK no-one has 32k (yet)
It's not that type of soliciting!
ah i'm already accepted on, i have access to GPT4 and i've been using it through the API, i just have the 8k model though, in my acceptance email it states that, but it would be great to use the 32k model
the level of throttling is unbearable, short replies and not sure what I am paying for at this point.
How long did API access take? I applied a week ago and still stuck on 3.5
x2
can gpt help me pass my offline exams ?
I have Plus , i made tons of software projects with chatgpt. But 25 cap is really bad. Even im on the waitlist they r not giving me acces to API. Its sad
bruh
32K is not yet available to anyone, still, for every model, it gets slower the bigger the reply is, and for gpt4 it is no different, is is slower comapred to 3.5-turbo
about a week, i applied day 1 of announcement
btw, where are you from
Is it still in development?
day 1... it probably got swamped with requests after that. I think I was on day 3-4
it might take a while, specially now that the systems are very overloaded
india ................................................................
blin
the website and the faq aren’t exactly clear on this, do I get immediate access to chat gpt 4 if I subscribe to plus? I don’t need API, just the chat. Is there currently a limit to how many conversations you can have per day? The website plus subscribe dialogue is kinda useless
omg, no genshin impact mention😱
yes you do
25msgs in 3 hrs
i guessed
You get access to GPT 4, there is a current message limit of 25 msgs/3 hours. You do no get access to the API with a plus subscription
:0
can the price be reduced to 5 dollar it ok for gpt to have a days meal.....
20 dollars is about 21 chuckenburgers from McDonalds from my country
how ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
I’ll give you an advice : don’t use too much punctuation
25 msgs/3 hours*
if you subscribe to Plus you will be able to have a limited usage of GPT-4 on ChatGPT, the API access is still limited to the wait list
okay that’s what I was interested in, 25 per hour sounds reasonable. Cheers
gpt taught me
Per 3
explain
people can just tell
well per three is still okay
put invitations for 5$
but anyway
for the api
I applied there too and still nothing :/
x2
what a creative nickname
thanku
What a pity.
i thought very hard about it
5 days passed. still didnt give me access...
i don't know ask gpt for the correct answer ?
i love dogs
i got in within 1st hour after announcement took 2 days to get API. Now the list is likely very long, and they may even have paused new onboarding due to the load
I don't suggest anyone sign up for gpt4 if its a significant financial decision for you
what a water (just created this joke)
OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.
Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.
i have an eval i want to submit but i dont understand how to get it into the correct submission format. is there anyone who could please help with this?
when I joinned the wait list for dalle-2 it took a few months for me to get it.. and at the time, OpenAI didn't even had all this hype... so... I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it
ok
but it asks for money in web handle telling to use gpt +
idk I use gpt 3.5 and I’m happy
Have GPT scan through the wait-list and remove any which doesn't meet a certain standard, then manually review the rest 😂
is the gpt4 api faster than chatgpt+ interface
yeah unless you got onto these waitlists early, you may be waiting a while. They just don't have enough physical hardware to meet demand
speed is pretty crucial to my application
it is about the same thing
please explain why do you want to access gpt 4 so much
ok. sigh. guess ill stick with 3.5turbo for now
I want chatgpt can do it
then why is it charging money........
gpt4 gives better responses
?
strongly advise to use 3.5-turbo then, it is very fast, in fact, consider enabling streamming on your API requests as it will give you the outputs as it is generated so you do'n tneed to wait for it to finish
😱 didn’t know
Actually, can you give me an example?
@serene cipher whats the argument to enable streaming? I didn't realize that was opt-in
u from ?
If they don't why they release 'new things'. If you don't have cap enough for demand, don't release it.
gpt4 is "smarter" in that it is trained on more data and takes more prompts
I think it just has more parameters
streaming is one of the settings you can pass when making API requests, you talking about the API, right?
that's what I meant
can gpt process or make me a image i describe ?
yeah, i didnt see it in the docs but I'll look aagain @serene cipher
Dalle can make images
Oh, I forgot about the number of words. It explains a lot
whats is dalle?
Business with revolutionary technology shouldn't release businesses product because it will become too popular?
if you enable that, it will give you the outputs as it generates, otherwise, it will fully generate, then give you the data
in other words, you get the start of your text right away instead of needing to wait for it to finish
Openai's image generation AI
Another ai by openai
some of you are weird in your logic
Idk how it compares to others
or lack thereof
ohh like brother but from different mother.....
No yet
ai
hmm… deep sense words
你好
More advanced ChatGPT
Siri but good
guys can you please tell me if the website is working for you? i tried using the free plan right now but it seems down. do the gpt3.5 and gpt4 work for you? im considering to go for the paid subscription and would like to know if that is working right now
artificial kind
is GPT-3, but better
in what ways ?
I think you have GPT 3
just ask gpt
Gpt 4 is a separate mode you have to manually choose
fr
dropdown at the top of the new chat (plus users only)
I have gpt5
Also the gpt 4 icon is black and ChatGPT is green
when you are selected from the wait list you get an email about it
chadgpt 5
lol
early demo pre-release
is it working right now?
If you are a ChatGPT Plus subscriber, you will get the option to choose between GPT-4 and GPT3.5
gigachadgpt
P.S. don't do this, it may hallucinate
greatest differentiation ever noted
I am free, just ask anything
yes
3.5 is fast af for plus subscribers
Yeah
is it working for you right now?
Oh, may i in dm?
does gpt4 have the same response limit as gpt3?
no DMs, just public chat
Holy smokes ... the answers of cGPT4 is super short today. And i have a lot of previous sampledata with a Conversation that has 126509 Words or 1183357 Characters (926107 Characters without spaces)
let me ask you to not spread misinformation about the OpenAI's services then =P
there is no gpt-5 yet, still at 4
I think ChatGPT is 4k and GPT 4 is 8k
Yes
so everyone will see that I’m dummy
this is correct
who said anything about openai? I said ChadGPT 5, aka gigachadgpt
tell me your gf's p number
perfect, considering to go for the paid version cuz the free plan is down rn for me
thanks
867-5309
8k tokens is around 24k characters on average
ou said.. right here: #gpt-models message
her name is Jenny
i want it to write some code, but in gpt3 it cuts off mid code and even if i get it to continue it doesn't use the same format as earlier. If i purchase gpt4 will i be able to get the whole code in 1 prompt? Should be less then 300 lines
what colour is your buagatti ?
Ok, who is XJ9 then?
thanks
trick question, my bicycle is blue
the guy next to XJ8
Idk any Bugatti, You mean bagatiti?
Bear in mind that GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours, and expect significantly lower caps, as they adjust for demand.
Probably, GPT4 is also more accurate with code. The only downside is that it responds pretty slow and you can only do 25 messages every 3 hours.
GPT-4 has double the token limit, so it is possible, but I wouldn't advise getting Pro just for using gpt4, it is very limited
what is that ?
Achievement unlocked:
Smarter than AI
Now think, who got this
gpt4 is somewhat broken right now in it's responses
anyone has error notification trying to get chatgpt premium?
are u just promoting gpt in here ?
I've been a GPT Plus member for a little and started using GPT-4 and it's amazing compared to GPT-3.5. OpenAI should create new tier to allow people to unlimited access to GPT-4
It does act weird sometimes with the cut offs
i did quite the opposite =P
Mods, can we start being a bit more proactive with some of the chat in here? @serene cipher It's way off topic, and childish. Makes it difficult to see what's actually happening re: GPT
it has amnesia too
oh damn, hope they gonna fix the demand issue, are they having problem with their servers?
Lambarjambar , ferure or bagatiti?
What's the actual maximum context length with GPT-4? The mail invite says 8k, but in the Playground I cannot select anything beyond 2048 tokens
ask it to continue when code is cutoff, and sometimes it just gives some other random code
will gpt4 keep at least the same format for the code, like already defined commands once it continues from the cut off?
Are you sure you're using the GPT4 API?
it was great at it previously, but seems to have devolved currently
Let me take a screenshot for you
hey, be sure to forward any complaints to @open crescent , this will directly ping the mods 👍
so what’s your answer?
It's just too much demand on the new GPT-4 model, so they need to control it. I personally never even exceeded the 25 messages every 3 hours until now, so only the really hardcore users might face an issue.
lamber....
What is up with ChatGPT-4 today? the replys are super short. it's also timing out on code, im getting like 10 lines of code and stopping mid line
what is API ?
its easy to get to 25 when you are chatting with your new AI girlfriend
Lambarjambar is the best car brand in Ohio
Good choice
looks like not worth it at the moment to pay for the plus based on what you guys are saying
i kinda agree with that
everything is relative to your financial situations
Wall-e's cousin
be sure that your selected model is gpt-4, it is a chat completion model
True and how you use it
@slate ginkgo it looks like this channel doesn't allow image Attachments
Happens to me too, no clue about the reason tho. Apparently doesn't happen for other types of questions, only code.
i don't mind 20$ but if it doesn't perform better in coding than the free version it's a waste
what's happening?
who is wall e ?
Yesterday I had almost 2 hours chat with GPT-4 and I didn't exceed the 25 messages cap! But I was exchanging long posts, like feeding her a lot of information per message, so I can get real good output. GPT-4 is really good at that.
I did
I paid for Plus and it's down
chat with fellow mates
if you have to choose between eating and paying for chatgpt plus, you should eat
It used to but people abused it and it got disabled, you could dm me the screenshot if you want.
Has chatgpt been slow today for anyone?
lol
Has anyone from the waiting list received version 4?
Will do
Happy to contribute.
ever since its growing popularity
I've heard that some people have api access
in that case, I think you need to better format the sequences of system / user / assistant messages, if you don't mind elaborating on the problem, ping me on #dev-chat
Why waste the 25 on that? use 3.5 and go crazy
Yes, GPT4 seems to have devolved a little today, probably too much demand
Yeah I know but it's been unusually slow since it last went down a couple days ago
what is api can anyone answer ??????????????????
lol
google it
ask chat gpt
It sounds cool, because waiting is very tiring, and it's not so easy to find $20 for a student per month)
ask chat gpt lol
people are saying Bing Chat is GPT-4 but I don't believe it. It is SO BAD. I only use it sometimes because it can access internet sites so I can feed it an API doc...but it made code for me that didn't work. I told it it does nothing when I run it and has no errors...so it assumes I'm the issue and gives me a "did you turn it off and on again" routine....when I finally say, I understand how to run the code, the code is bad fix it. It decided it was done with the conversation and locked it.
Sure, will do
I really wish ChatGPT would access web pages so I could use only it
what re you ?
it's another way to access OpenAI models. You pay-as-you go with the api. You can also use it to utilize OpenAI products in your own projects
and theyre in the background changing things for plugin use
can’t even access bingai in belarus
ohhhhhhhh
why ?
it's clearly been kneecapped but senior MS staff have said it is, so no reason to disbelieve given their business relationship with OpenAI
use vpn
Are you Belrusian?
ye
I agree with you, the bing four is very mediocre. Communication with him is literally communication with a search engine. There is no conditional "soul" like Openal+, this is a limitation in phrases...
well it can be infuriating to work with. GPT-4 is user friendly, but having only a passing knowledge of the API and no way to show it...it isn't very good at writing code for it.
When it is free for all ?
Not for a long time
looking forward to these plugins to ChatGPT - web access and wolfram alpha specifically.
I need some Belarusian linen. Can't get any anymore because of your dumb leaders cozy relationship with your neighbor
Probaly years or never will be free
yes, I think that will open it up to actually being able to do what I want
once I can pass it the API docs it should be able to achieve what I'm after
Oh, of course it’s my fault
I have to assume it was only briefly trained on specialized code bases.
Hi guys i have a question, please can you tell me if we can somehow know how many time we have before the quota of GPT-4 messages resets ? And also how to know how many messages we already sent during this 3h session ?
which reminds me @serene cipher are you up for a project?, woops i forgot i pinged a CV, dont hurt me.
It will be transformational, I maintain we don't really need GPT-5 or 6, giving -4 access to 'tools' will allow us (well, me) everything we need
sure, feel free to contact me if you want =)
the contrary, the people are being punished, I can imagine those industries are hurting
Aight will do as of rn
bro how many workers are in openai? they seem to do a lot of things in a short period of time
aight
like 10
The only thing I would like to see out of a new model is updated data. Training ended at 2021. So it's lacking. BUT having access to more than it's training data could in fact solve that problem
wait are you fr?
i will visit Belarus one day for sure
yes, a rolling refresh would be very helpful
I wish openai would give a real status on the state of the services
it understands language and interaction really well...so now it's just filling in the information holes
no im kidding
I tried to access bingai from US vpn… fail. I should’ve picked any vpn other than Ohio one 😂
The server experienced an error while processing your request. Sorry about that! You can retry your request, or contact us through our help center at help.openai.com if the error persists.
Service issues or on my side?
😊
System
loolllll
Doesn’t this whole plug-in thing mean we can optimize chat gpt 4 subscription to be a way better coder
can i come to ur house ?
maybe it’s because of Belarusian Microsoft account
i will take you for a trip to ohio too......
Of course, start writing address
ChatGPT-4 feels like working with the best collaberation partner ever. Bing Chat feels like working with that annoying person at work that thinks they know everything and won't listen to anyone.
it doesn't depend on account
thx
so bingai is bad?
😂
yes, that's literally one of the things in the survey you can say you are interested in "code interpretation"
Hey all 
Quick friendly reminder to please keep any discussions or content that is unrelated to #gpt-models
in the appropriate channels, such as #off-topic or other relevant channels. Thanks! 
Ohh yeah I clicked that one I didn’t exxactly know what it meant at first
if you can get around it's HORRIBLE attitude it can be great. But man it's awful to work with
ok
Chat gpt 4
sorry, Bing is GPT4 so it is NOT off topic
Hmm. I'm guessing it's not a service wide issue or chat would be flowing.
I just got my history back and this is on an extremely long thread, not sure if related.
The server experienced an error while processing your request. even on edits and retries. 😔
he meant our with captain ghost’s Ohio jokes
Not referring to you :)
ah ok

i know u are saying this to me right ?
How can I truly become Chat gpt 4
and to me too
Partially, and to some others yes. 
One thing I can def say about GPT-4....I LOVE that it knows when to get out of your way and just do what's asked of it
cool 😎
Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence:
Early experiments with GPT-4
"Moreover, in all of these tasks, GPT-4’s performance is strikingly close to human-level
performance, and often vastly surpasses prior models such as ChatGPT. Given the breadth and depth of
GPT-4’s capabilities, we believe that it could reasonably be viewed as an early (yet still incomplete) version
of an artificial general intelligence (AGI) system."
bing chat is the best available tool to confirm infos given by gpt-4, do you agree?
it doesn't inject comments or remarks, unless you are working in a way that it should
You aren't seeing a degradation of that ability right now?
wait is bing chat and gpt same ?
i love that bing chat comes with the sources
I'm not. It's been a pleasure to work with
I agree, but currently it seems to have degraded in it's abilities and outputs
the way I talk to it, it seems to understand, this is work, not a chat. So let's get it done without the need for additional fluff
My GPT-4 answers are written so slowly today that they keep timing out -- does anybody else have the same issue?
I've been writing a novel with it and the output has been consistently excellent
you are not alone man
To the point: GPT said, that if he was a voice assistant, he would have name Alfred
I am using it to analyze existing code and organize it, it was working great as of yesterday but today something happened, it just doesn't want to complete anything, forgets what it was doing one statement to the next
It’s everybody
that's strange, I haven't done any code on it today. I can try and see how it does for me.
I wonder if Chat gpt 4 likes avocados
That's a bummer. I really started to like GPT-4, but at that speed and without any luck at completing anything, it's not that useful at this very moment. Let's hope they'll fix it soon.
I need chatgpt4 for free
Hahahaha that’s funny comment
Need? Or want
X)
Need
Dream on
Thanks you
bing chilling ai (not off topic)
of course
Cap
Chilling bing
i swear to god
Guys who have a premium openai acc ?
i mean bing ai
Uhh ohhhhhh
we understood
i do
good
I do
of course I do, start typing
Can you please give me your password ...
theres also "nat . dev"
What thheeee
It’s just 20 bucks though
dream about it
No problem. “stop_sending_nonsense”
Ill pay 20¥

yuans are everywhere
Hello i from Ecuador
Just saw a video on youtube talking about it
herro
Is there any sense of when the 32k context length access will be available via the API?
Chat is off topic again 😦
china is not everywhere
Does the GPT-3 API have the same censorship as chatgpt?
There's been no announcement yet as far as i know
wait and see
Hmm I’m not sure I think gpt 4 has better censor ship I love the censorship
It makes me feel holy again
has there been any announcement for when the image capability comes out?
horrified
me too
it makes me feel hor… ly
So this effects even Plus?
No, they're working with a company to get it working, but no date.
okay
blessed robit saved me a few hours of work today by fixing white space for me haha
appreciate it
Does people with GPT4 use 3.5 sometimes? or once you try 4 you dont wanna touch 3.5?
good question
GPT-4 went from being unable to write two paragraphs without using the letter e to being able to write a long story without using e at all. it's improved a lot
4 is significantly improved but 3.5 is sufficient for some things. I use it mostly for programming assistance.
It's a bad habit to use -4 all the time (I do it too), but GPT3.5-turbo is perfectly suitable for a lot of tasks, and a LOT quicker, without limits.
this is different than co-pilot yes?
I don't know what co-pilot is, sorry.
It’s night now in Belarus, so good night
Copilot branding is going to become annoying, as MS are using it for their 365 offering, then github also have a product with that name
Guys, is it just me or does anyone's GPT-4 just refuses to complete responses?
everyone's*
I'm familiar with the github, is that just branded GPT?
I haven't used 4 in a while since they shrunk the number of requests down unless its like a task I know I can get done in a few interactions or I absolutely need it.
Can you send chat gpt pictures or no?
Yes, MS (who also own Github) are sprinkling GPT-4 on everything
is the history back for you guys?
yes
just don't bring back clippy
For me, yes.
no that feature is not avail yet
If it had unlimited high-quality answers to my questions, I'd even cope with a creepy clip avatar.
Not yet
circling back to subscribing for Plus, even still it's overloaded and slow to respond, yes?
yes, clear website cache/cookies and log in again if it's not working.
are you trolling?
what is the difference between gpt 4 and chat gpt
shrug I'll stay subbed just to support the project.
I think it's worth it for me, but $20 is not a huge amount of money for me, everyone's circumstances are different.
pay more, get less is the new meta?
GPT4 is a more advanced version of GPT3.5 (which is probably what the chatbot is you're referring to?)
You still get access to 3.5. Gpt-4 is far more powerful
The limits will become more generous soon, just need to get over this demand hump
applied digital minimalism, ok, here we go
Just type "continue"
ok
my history is still not available
GPT-4 is one of the language models that ChatGPT+ users can use.
But far less powerful
if you delete GPT3.5 and replace it with GPT4, does it have to seek out the Merovingian and make a deal to hide in the Matrix?
no doubt, but recently it's unusable just getting red flags of dead end requests
Anybody got access to the plugins yet?
Seems like GPT 4 has gotten dumber since all these performance issues started cropping up last week, just days after the release. Can't prove it obviously but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they are further limiting it on the back end in order to try and save resources.
Okay we do have a problem with cGPT4 atm.
After my last mandatory pause because of the limit i started a New Conversation!
I am again at my 25 Msg Limit BUT
I only have 17 Answers from cGPT in the Conversation.
And reached the Limit again
"You've reached the current usage cap for GPT-4. You can continue with the default model now, or try again after 10:01 PM. Learn more"
It's writing JS snippets for me just fine. Have to be specific and asks it to write / help individual functions not whole programs in a single prompt
any good website like chatgpt for recommendation?
easy to do? not sure what to change defaults
do you need chat gpt+ for the thing that generates art?
I think that person is just trolling. Not sure though.
no
How many A100's do you think I need to buy to run GPT-4 at home?
Seems like it, his messages are very odd
but you still have to pay, right?
lmao
Doubt nvidia is gonna sell you any A100's for personal use.
liking this, ty
for DALL-E2 yes
ok
So I bought a subscription so that I had priority access to the turbo mode of GPT3 (which is called GPT3.5 at chat.openai.com/chat). The picture/image bots are a different system entirely.
oh ok
I primarily use it to help me refactor code
zksoaps, lol
Imma gonna be
zknopes
How long does it take to get access to it after joining wait list?
I feel the same
Not sure anybody can answer that yet considering it only just came out in the last couple hours
Chat for works but better now and is smart good job for fixing it smile perosn that is a mod
If you've joined the API waitlist recently, all bets are off. No-one here knows the length of the queue, or how quickly (or at all) they're onboarding people.
If you mean the plugins waitlist, it's only an hour old so who knows
Alr ty
Anyone experiencing the same ?
Any idea how to get my previous history chats back? I cleared cookies and cache.
Hi guys i have a question, please can you tell me if we can somehow know how many time we have before the quota of GPT-4 messages resets ? And also how to know how many messages we already sent during this 3h session ?
OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.
Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.
I'm on plus and my chats are still missing unfortunately.
there are browser extensions which will keep count for you, but make sure you trust them first (there was a google chrome malware one in the news earlier)
hi chat
try to log out and then login
All I'd suggest is to be more specific in your prompts. I'm having no issues with JS functions
did that and nothing
sigh
try in a private browser window, afaik everyone should have history back now.
Count
I have history back
so the extensions work using gpt-3.5?
You can send it test messages until it runs out that will tell you how many you had left till 25
unclear, the extensions are for 'ChatGPT' so may be both, or may just be for + users, or may just be for GPT-4. I'm expecting they'll be extensions for the website itself and independent of the model though
Yeah the formatting does sometimes get funky when you ask it to continue. You can ask it to just repeat the json part of the response but depending on how long it is then it may cause issues
Could ask it how many messages you've sent
Isn't the Chap GPT dev team trying to reach out to mobile devices?
i mean, they haven't precised which model is using, on the videos you can see that the model is called "extensions"
when did you get it back ?
Is anyone on a good GPT fb group?
Like 8 hours ago
I've been thinking about you all day, longing to feel the warmth of your touch, sending shivers down my spine. Your eyes, a deep ocean of desire that I can't help but get lost in. I crave the electric connection we share, a magnetic dance that leaves us breathless, our hearts racing.
12 hours for me
It saved all my new conversations during the down time aswell
Did that and still
I only woke up 8 hours ago so 😂
History is working again for all users today.
Don't think so
no, mine came back 12hrs ago, no user action required
No, that depends on the model, not the subscription tier.
Unfortunately not
not for me
My GTP are not working? Anyone having the same problem?
which part of the country are you based in?
UK
Longer response time, yes. It might give a longer response if you regenerate the response though.
ah yea, it looks like US still having issues
Ah. It might have restored quicker for me, since I don't have many chats.
good to hear its coming back
i just ate my hair while eating a chocolate
chocolate goes good with pretty much everything....
0_o
i agree
Anyone in the US , who;s chat GPT plus is working?
I get "The previous model used in this conversation is unavailable. We've switched you to the latest default model" in the middle of the conversation, now GPT-4 not working
Many people say that cheese is also good with everything.
my hair was delicious with the chocolate
(0_0)
Hi guys, is there a way for GPT-4 to translate photo into code yet? or is that not available yet?
I'm not a subscriber. 😔
not avail yet
I think it's having problems right now.
its having problems
I just want Chat GPT-4 to help me out with CSS effects.
where is the musk's discord
Also, is everyone else's GPT running very slowly & only producing parts of answers?
ye
It is also in general right now.
so, it's common problem, right?
Any knowledge of why this might be?