Spotlight reward sucks

[south elm]

Nobody wanted 10 Mutadon DNA, its not worth the effort at all, revert it back to the 20k coin incubator

[proud flame]

Not gonna happen, but true (maybe if the amount had another 0 at the right would have been better)

[south elm]

I'm crine there's so many people in different servers that are so pissed about the mutadon rewards

Completely valid reactions

10 Mutadon DNA has to be the worst reward ever

[pure sinew]

It’s just farcical now with the dilution of rewards over the whole game

[surreal sand]

@little cargo what’s going on with this game ? Why do we have the worst reward today?

[pure sinew]

We lose 20,000 coins, possible Herra dna, legendary dna, epic dna and common dna for 10 Mutadon dna!!!!

[tacit haven]

Like fym 10 DNA, it's not like it's real money

[spring vault]

Literally one of the worst rewards this game has ever done, incredible

[proud flame]

I wouldn't say is the worst reward, because we had worse already this month (on the monthly calendar) but yeah, 10 Mutadon DNA is bad, specially considering how hard can be for some players

[coral swan]

Still right up there with the worst

Needs changes asap,

Glad to see someone beat me to the dice ping

[little cargo]

we're reviewing those. Thank you for the feedback in any case ^^ I'll bring that up to the team.

[brisk oasis]

it's as insulting as that time they did a "special" coin chest chase to celebrate a holiday - and we got less than we would have gotten normally.

[coral swan]

When did that happen

[brisk oasis]

few years ago... they made the max for coin chests was like 7777 that time, instead of the regular 25,000. it was possibly for chinese new year.

[coral swan]

Weird

[pure sinew]

Every server, every platform, and every player is saying the same thing.
It’s an insult, and as I’ve said the rewards are so bad lately it’s almost as if Ludia are seeing how bad things have to be before the game is dropped altogether.
It’s shocking.

[little cargo]

I'll be sure to let the team know this is how its perceived.

[quick yacht]

Sounds like 77777 would have been better

[brisk oasis]

exactly - i don't think anyone has an issue with special weeks and events. the problem is when the rewards for those "special" events are even less than what we receive without the event...

[quick yacht]

Fr

Something tells me this spotlight strike is half because of people mad that strike rewards ate the same

[brisk oasis]

for instance, if part of this week's spotlight strike was just the same rewards as normal, PLUS the 10 mutadon dna, we'd think the 10 DNA is a little stingy, but would anyone really be angry about it?

then it's just bonus... it's taking away our regular rewards that hurts, especially since it's so difficult to progress anymore with exclusivity and shortages

[quick yacht]

Honestly onlt the coins is the issue imo

I don't mind if the dna rewards are gone, I'm sure some want it, but the coins is the big blow

[brisk oasis]

i was mostly referencing dna exclusivity and coin shortages...

[cyan needle]

genuinely baffling from ludia. didnt even let us keep the 20k coin.

[hot siren]

Every time I think they have reached the max level of stingyness, they prove me wrong. What an absolute joke of a “Spotlight” strike. No coins, no DNA (10 Mutadon DNA is basically no DNA when you consider just how much is needed to level this creature).

Do better.

[brisk oasis]

the need to review the spawn locations (including arena incs, alliance weekly rewards incs, strike event incs, etc) is a completely separate issue...

[coral swan]

I wouldn’t even care if the regular dna was removed, just leave the damn coin alone, we have enough coin shortage as is

do NOT TOUCH OUR COIN

[brisk oasis]

i still want the chance for herrera...

[coral swan]

Fair, the coin is the biggest part of spotlight however

For some “if they have it in range” who don’t get to go in town even less than what I do, it’s a huge chunk of their obtainable coin due to bad spawns like how bad it is where I live, most people don’t want to spend hours and hours maxing supply drops bc they are only getting like 60 average on regular and 90 average on green

[brisk oasis]

that's why i don't bother maxing supply drops. but i also rarely complain about them needing to give us more coin.

but i get upset when i don't get what i should from things.

[quick yacht]

Fs

[left ember]

That was one of the absolute worst damn moves this company has made with this game. I truly hate how bad this game has gotten.

[lapis aspen]

I’m absolutely baffled as to why they thought 10 mutadon dna was even an acceptable reward for a spotlight strike. It’s feeling more and more like Ludia just doesn’t care and it’s so disheartening, this is probably the worst I’ve ever seen a company treat its players (at least of all the games I’ve been part of)
Absolutely insane and unacceptable, their players are just going to keep getting madder and madder and idk what the tipping point is gonna be 😭

[coral swan]

I would be “ok” with it if it had that and the coin but taking out the coin is a very evil move

[brisk oasis]

they shouldn't have removed anything. just added the 10 mutadon as an extra bonus for completing it... that's it.

[coral swan]

Something ludia apparently can’t do 🤦‍♂️

[signal hare]

They are actively trying to minimize rewards as much as possible to see if they can make more money. That is all they have done the last 3 months, monthly pass used to be worth it and I would spend $40 a month on it for the coins and incubators. They removed almost all the incubators and most coins now just small amount of dna not worth it anymore. Brawl shop used to be worth it they take increase price on boost by 2x and put half as much in. Then this month boosts from monthly check in on website goes from 100 to 10 making it not worth it. Thats my opinion though don’t take it to the bank

[coral swan]

@little cargo this is something else to take note of, that we are not ok with

Like seriously

[south elm]

Yeah trust me, they aren't going to take note of it

They'll ignore anything that calls them out on being money hungry

[coral swan]

I’ve already got a handful of things sent to the team since they have been rebuilding and expanding their staffing very recently, more likely than you think

Just like how we got a response above

[sharp fable]

But I don't think they are gonna move a muscle

This will just end up destroying their consumer base because not everyone can pay for the resources

Most of the people playing this game are f2p I.e. they don't pay anything

It now feels like a threat, if you don't pay them, all your rewards will be minimized

[coral swan]

Not a good practice

[little cargo]

taking notes.

[winged wigeon]

And another thing to take note of

VIP used to get a 50% bonus and it was 40% for non-VIP.

Just one thing after another to degrade the experience for the players.

I can’t speak for others but if the point of all this is to generate more revenue by “encouraging” people to spend more it has the opposite effect me. I would rather not spend money on a game that is becoming less and less enjoyable by the day.

[pure sinew]

I feel exactly the same way, and so does every player I know that is still playing.
Most have left since Ludia started this exploitation of players three or four months ago.
It’s been getting worse and worse and even today I heard from another long term player leaving. He said the removal of the coin from the spotlight strike was the final straw.
I can see way more people leaving as we see such diluted rewards becoming the new norm.

[winged wigeon]

I’ve have been VIP since day one but I have just gone to cancel it.

[surreal sand]

They made the worst mistake and their money went down fallen no one will buy this stupid mistake 💰📉📉

But it’s time to me stop buying vip and pass goodbye to them and I won’t spend anything on Game rewards

[coral swan]

@little cargo

And thank you for acknowledging and trying to help

[little cargo]

doing my best 😄

[coral swan]

I’m the past we just got ignored, can’t say how much we appreciate it

[little cargo]

I did bring that up to the team earlier on. We agree there is somewhat of a disconnect in what we think you'll find valuable and what you actually find valuable. Our goal is to make you exited about the game. Not make you angry. We will be reassessing some approaches. Thank you all for the feedback as it extremely helpful!

[coral swan]

One of the first things is making short range scents worth it remove the rare, and adjust the chances of the unique and legendary

[brisk oasis]

And again, for All Special Events - don't replace rewards with what you think we want - add to regular rewards if anything. That way nobody is angry...

[coral swan]

Yep, do not remove one thing for another

[hot siren]

Huge disconnect. How can anyone think 10 DNA is worth much of anything especially with as much as is needed to level creatures. It’s like a slap in the face, especially when the meaningful rewards like coins are removed. Players are quitting in ever increasing numbers.

[little cargo]

that's what a disconnect is ^^ And that's why we know we have to adjust. We definitely weren't trying to insult anyone.

[hot siren]

Does anyone at Ludia actually play the game? It’s hard to comprehend the level of “disconnect” we are seeing in so many aspects of this game.

[little cargo]

yes but it's hard to not have a Dev perspective. And the resource economy is probably the hardest to evaluate. But if you have time and you feel like it you can DM me all the aspect you think we're disconnected. Totally up to you. Last thing I want is to give players homework :p

[coral swan]

The biggest thing that’s out of control right now is coin shortages, they have literally done everything possible to limit coins, I know someone in the public community had a list and one of the big ones is removing coins from incubators, when I joined the game in its early release the idea of incubators when they started adding events is ALL HAD COIN so brawl, trails etc they need to change

Also additionally, when lvl 35 was added currently strike events to this day still give zero bonuses for lvl 21-35 vs 20 in coin chest chases are also messed up in the same way

We lost like 80k worth in trails due to a nerf

Now I understand 80 might of been a bit much but there was no reason to completely remove coin from them

[little cargo]

there are some update in #announcements for those interested

[brisk oasis]

Well, at least we finally got an answer to the community choice question... not the option i would have thought, but an answer...

and progress towards the omega tourney issue. still need to figure out the training points issue when it comes to skill tourneys though.

[hollow stump]

So are we being told not to invest in Omegas for advantage now?
Omegas were brought in as a specialist tournament rarity. 💀

[brisk oasis]

I did appreciate an actual new post though, rather than just adding on to an old post (which was still done for the "balancing update"). which when put in an old post just looks to me like you are hiding it since most people don't recheck old posts they've already read unless they are told to (which, granted was done in the new post). Just a note for future...

[little cargo]

oh yeah, we certainly don't plan on updating an old post against for news.

[brisk oasis]

i mean, they are just having omegas follow the rarity laws for tourneys in advantage. you still have all your training points, levels, and boosts - so i think that's fair.

your moves are just limited down by top rarity allowed in tourney...

[coral swan]

I am not ok with this, I spend months working on creatures for all advantage tornys just to be restricted, I DONT THINK SO just go back to the damn ability unlock by rarity already

[hollow stump]

Yeah the only issue with Omegas was all abilities allowed in any rarity.

[little cargo]

if at all possible, would you guys kindly create an dedicated thread for Omega tournaments stuff? so I can find it easily later ^^

[coral swan]

@little cargo we really need to do something besides the idea they wrote, we didn’t spend millions of coins just to not be able to use them alongside other rarities in advantage

[coral swan]

Sure we can do that

[little cargo]

amazing ty

[coral swan]

I’ll just steal your sa if you mind @hollow stump

[hollow stump]

I don't mind at all

[coral swan]

I created it

[coral swan]

@little cargo do you think we should make a suggestion regarding all changes as this was originally aimed at the 10 dna scam, as I feel there’s gonna be a lot of mess ups before the game is back on track

[little cargo]

the clearer and less messy feedback are the easier my job is

[brisk oasis]

if i wasn't about to be buried in work starting monday, i'd make a whole document with the various recommendations i've had... lol

[coral swan]

Alright I’ll deal with it soon, I’ll probably start by posting one that no t aimed at anyone specifically but just a broad idea to look at over the coming weeks

I pull a ss from above to start it

I’ll give it a special title to help you @little cargo

[brisk oasis]

maybe there should just be a forum post for all of us to discuss recommendations together. then we can compile something together so that dice only has one thing to look at that multiple people have discussed and brought forward issues. so it's all together...

[coral swan]

That’s the idea, a longer thread that’s just aimed at game imbalance and problems

There’s one that’s been going in help and support for a while that needs addressing (coin chase)

[brisk oasis]

Yeah, but it's going to be a discussion with players first i think, then later tag dice in a few days to a week when there is a good list of recommendations and fixes we think might address problems.

[coral swan]

Yeah

I’ll first tag to let him/her know about the thread and then tag replying to important details

[brisk oasis]

there's going to be too many important details... he asked for separate thread for each thing so easier for him to address. my idea was to compile something together to then alert him after so it was easier than 100 different forum posts about each issue we will end up having. but i thought he didn't want to follow along with a big discussion thread

plus lots of players in lots of diff time zones that might have great ideas or thoughts or problems...

[coral swan]

He could pick up at any time, and pick out important stuff, after all it would all in fact be about n topic and would likely be weeks long as most problems are about to occur I bet

[brisk oasis]

k.

[frozen herald]

There were even more people pissed about the last nerfs update, they won't do anything about it

[queen hawk]

is it gonna be like that for everything that used to be 20k coins???

[proud flame]

The fact that we got more Mutadon DNA for just being in the game than actually beating the spotlight creature...

Like, this is what it should have been

[coral swan]

We still need our missed coin from this @little cargo

[quick yacht]

I just hope they revert it for next time

[brisk oasis]

it's like 100, right? def more...

hopefully this kind of thing doesn't happen again, now that we've pointed out the issue...