#Community Poll: Apex and Unique Enhancements

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dusky valve
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Which of the following would you like to see in game in the future regarding Apex/Unique Enhancments:

1️⃣ Reduction of catalyst cost (esp. E3-E5)

2️⃣ Increase of recombination catalyst yield

3️⃣ Elimination of L25 recombination restriction

4️⃣ More catalysts in login calendars

5️⃣ More catalysts in Special Missions

6️⃣ More catalysts in weekly strike towers

7️⃣ Catalysts in supply drops

8️⃣ Catalysts in incubators (DBI, 24hr, Alliance Championship, Raid etc.)

9️⃣ Less DNA required per recombination

🔟 Catalysts in more Isla Events

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Voting Space

fading glacier
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The l25 restriction is annoying, but I understand it and think it shouldn't go

fading glacier
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Enhancements is a end game thing, and I think only using lv 25 dna to fuse helps add to that

dusky valve
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True but L25 only works if the cost is reduced per enhancement tier or catalysts become cheaper, otherwise even for endgame players it becomes too expensive

fading glacier
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Ya

quiet gyro
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completely agree with the above - lvl25 is ONLY workable IF costs are reduced SUBSTANTIALLY

fading glacier
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Which I Def think should happen

quiet gyro
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we were discussing this in the alliance the other day - Silver & Gold catsyst prices need to be a 1/10th of what they are now

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I know literally dozens of players, long time players, good players, Gyro+ players, who don't even bother with Silver & Gold, just too expensive

fading glacier
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Arguably i think the gold catalysts might be the easiest to get

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Mainly because of rexy and paras lux and it being cheaper to get them to 25 as well as only needing 1500 of them instead of 75k

quiet gyro
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you need 2,000 gold catalysts for T5

fading glacier
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Though I've never fused any, all that I have gotten is from events

delicate vale
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T5 is stupid overpriced

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Hardly anything is even worth t3

quiet gyro
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1,500 Legendary DNA gives 40 gold catalysts

fading glacier
stiff lintel
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omega enhancements when

quiet gyro
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so you need 50x recominations,

at 1,500 a pop, that's 75,000 legendary DNA for T5 alone....

fading glacier
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Omegas don't need them like apexes did

delicate vale
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Apex enhancements are dumb

fading glacier
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Of course of bronze

stiff lintel
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all they need to do is remove lvl 25 requirement and reduce coin cost, the rest can stay

quiet gyro
dusky valve
fading glacier
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Ok so about 35k vs 1.5k

quiet gyro
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Bronze catalyst cost, I can just about live with - need to dart A LOT, but you can just about grind them

Silver, even for T2, is too expensive. DNA required to fuze Silvers needs to be at least 1/5th what it is now, but realstically 1/10th.

T2 requires roughly 20k epic DNA, or 90k rare

the silver for T3 currently takes 100,000 epic, or 540,000 rare.....

T4 requires double that, so 200,000 epic, or 1,080,000 rare....

and then gold for T5, you'll need about 75,000 legendary DNA

all of that with dino's only @ lvl25 or above....

fading glacier
dusky valve
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Not rlly, Kyrie and Gem still dominated shores

delicate vale
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That’s why tournaments are nice. No apexes

fading glacier
stiff lintel
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all omegas

dusky valve
quiet gyro
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the day Omega's take over, is the day the majority of the player base leaves....

delicate vale
fading glacier
quiet gyro
serene rain
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I won't enhance past T2. It's too expensive

quiet gyro
delicate vale
quiet gyro
fading glacier
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Either we need every apex buffed to be way better then uniques (comparable to a t5 unique) or they need enhancements and more minor buffs

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I originally only planned t2 everything first, but I kinda want t5 lycan

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Events have helped though

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0 combine yet

delicate vale
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Everyone give me your catalysts so I can t5 stygidaryx

serene rain
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I have 14 commons I can use for catalyst and I've ran them all dry 🤣

stiff lintel
delicate vale
quiet gyro
stiff lintel
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i have 3 and all have 100k+ on them 😄

fading glacier
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Sorry, eventually ill have to t5 7/8 my dinos, even if lycan was t5 first then I t2 everything else before I worry about that its alot

quiet gyro
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I mean same here, but that's the problem - costs are stupidly expensive

stiff lintel
serene rain
fading glacier
delicate vale
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More OP catalyst calendars when

quiet gyro
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well sure, with all the free Bronze catalysts we've FINALLY been getting in events etc

dusky valve
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^^

quiet gyro
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catalyst calanders, rewards, anything

Something's got to change

stiff lintel
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more new uniques to enhance when

fading glacier
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It helps they gave enough for t1 when catalysts was added that I got

delicate vale
serene rain
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The catalyst in the calendar was amazing. They definitely should do that more

stiff lintel
fading glacier
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Enhance ref when?

stiff lintel
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they need to do rexy calendar

dusky valve
fading glacier
stiff lintel
fading glacier
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And it only gave 50 dracovenator lol

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Its a easy dart, lets say 200 a week

rustic island
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Like point 🔟 I think could improve enhancements tbh, like I've just completed the isla event. Started at lv2 btw, all the dna and it doesn't even get you to lv5. Would rather have silver/gold catalysts instead.

quiet gyro
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a re-work of Enhancements seems pretty unanimous - haven't seen a single person say they're happy with costs the way they are

dusky valve
fading glacier
dusky valve
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Somewhere around 400 bronze, 200 silver, and 100 gold seems fair for one tier

fading glacier
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It definitely needs a rebalance, maybe this if they want a best of both worlds

T1, 750 bronze
T2 1250 bronze
T3 1000 silver
T4 200 gold
T5 300 gold

golden whale
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I think this would help people use reactive moves more often, some of them seem interesting to utilize

quiet gyro
stiff lintel
dusky valve
stiff lintel
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then whats the point in the enhancements at all, if they were so easy

dusky valve
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They should be on par difficulty wise with boosts, it’s like a cherry on the top after you’ve 30/30 a creature. It shouldn’t be like an additional year long slog for marginal benefit

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I mean the fact that zero players have a team full of E5s rn says something

fading glacier
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Ya it should be easy for a player with a team of lv 30

quiet gyro
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especially as whatever you enhance can't be refunded, and will be power crept by new releases constantly

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makes the huge investment make even less sense

stiff lintel
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when they tune down the catalysts requirements as the guy suggested 💀

dusky valve
fading glacier
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T5 ref when???!!!!! @jamcity

delicate vale
dusky valve
delicate vale
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Ironically I lack the miragaia

dusky valve
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@jamcity mira event when

boreal fern
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All apexes buffed and reworked

dusky valve
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Free catalysts for Christmas pls 🎄🎁

dusky valve
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Is it just me or have catalysts been removed from weekly strike towers these past couple weeks?

rapid wraith
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Not just you

dusky valve
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Topic bump

hexed wraith
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Not much more really can or needs to be said 🤣

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Either the catalyst rewards should be quadrupled, or the costs cut in half

trim rover
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and changing the order of the tracks for apex or unique

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no reason for them to have different orders

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in the current set up, unique still have an unfair advantage to apex while apex should be the superior rarity

dusky valve
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Day 1 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

fierce creek
dusky valve
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@hexed wraith was right, felt empty the day after Buck and Doe were added

dusky valve
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Day 2 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

trim hawk
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I personally think the large lump sum of coins you need to pay for each enhancement tier is unnecessary. No reason I should have to choose between leveling up an apex/components for an apex and enhancing an apex I have had for a while. Omegas moves are locked behind only dna and that is essentially an enhancement track. The enhancement uniques and apexes have should only be cost catalysts and dna.

dusky valve
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The costs are ridiculous, it cost more to T5 one creature than to max a whole team… and w the way new creatures are introduced every update by the time you can make any dent in the enhancement track, the creature is already out of the meta

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Not the coin cost, the DNA cost. Just for T5 alone it’s 75K legendary DNA. That’s enough to max 6.5 legendary creatures. Factor in the cost for other tiers, you can definitely have a team of 30s w the DNA cost for one T5

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Even from a profit perspective, ridiculous enhancement costs aren’t doing any favors. The extremely high catalyst requirements deter most from buying the in shop offers. If the enhancement requirements were lowered, I’d guarantee more ppl would buy the catalyst bundles because it increases relative value

fading glacier
dusky valve
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The funny thing is that even the top of shores doesn’t have any full T5 teams, even the big spenders in the game can’t see the value of T5

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lol exactly, so what’s the point of coding a reactive for every single apex and unique when literally no one gets to use it

fading glacier
dusky valve
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I check the leaderboards periodically for boost configs, I’ve never seen a full T5 team

fading glacier
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Interesting, you'd think that whales would have it lol (unless there's just a step they end on like t2 for uniques, 4 for apexes)

dusky valve
fading glacier
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Ya t1 and t2 gives the biggest effect for uniques, apexes did do better and make t4 give attack, (and t3 is helpful with 2 boosts instead of 1, t2 is the hp, t1 is the speed) but it is true many enhancements are not the biggest boost

dusky valve
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Day 3 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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Day 4 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

hexed wraith
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Mad lad is gonna spend the next year and a half fighting the good fight for us

dusky valve
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Day 5 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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Day 7 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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Day 8 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

boreal fern
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Also give us more catalysts from the tournament

dusky valve
boreal fern
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I have like 2700 just sitting

dusky valve
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Day 9 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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Day 11 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

turbid moon
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I hate how you need a creature level 25 to extract DNA for catalysts. It's already expensive to level up creatures that high but to then spend coin to extract the DNA to make catalysts and even use them on creatures is way too much coin.

robust bough
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Something needs to happen, 75k common dna for 126 bronze is just not on...

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I mean if you spent a whole day darting 75k commons doable but it's way to tedious to do that

dusky valve
turbid moon
dusky valve
dusky valve
turbid moon
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If there had to be a minimum for each rarity, maybe at least make it an extra five levels or something

dusky valve
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Minimum L20 would be a nice spot, L21 is the base level for uniques and catalysts can be fused from common thru legendary so it makes logical sense

turbid moon
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I could see that, the difference between 20-25 is very expensive so if they reduced it to level 20, I would probably do it

dusky valve
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IMO with the way each update releases a meta defining creature, achieving a max boosted max enhanced creature shouldn’t take more than 3-4 months for a dedicated, veteran player. What’s the point of having E5 take upwards of a year and the creature being benched for something in the next update. Especially because enhancements can never be stripped off unlike boosts, so the investment in a benched creature is 100% gone. We definitely need a rescale of the catalyst costs

turbid moon
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Don't even get me started on the boost reset tokens

dusky valve
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Exactly why the costs should be rescaled. The ROI on the investment is marginally lower than boosts and yet it’s at least 10x harder to E5 than it is to 30/30 a creature

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Cheapening enhancement might even increase revenue thru economy of scale. Casual spenders realise that E5 is attainable and myself included would prob buy some catalyst offers

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Valid, that’s kinda what E5 has been. E5 had its run for the past year as pretty much a status symbol only for the top 0.1%, the premium on its novelty is wearing off so it’s time to make it available to the masses

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Day 12 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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Day 15 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

hexed wraith
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Honestly, I'll take anything at this point. Reduction of costs or quadrupling the amount rewarded would be fine with me either way.

dusky valve
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Day 16 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

trim rover
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i have given up on enhancements, i don't even manage to create the 2-3 apex released every month or so due to lack of coins

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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keen echo
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The madman is at it again

dusky valve
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Day 19 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

golden whale
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He’s gotten Buck and Doe in the game, he can definitely get in a second feature

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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golden salmon
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Day 25 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

rustic island
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I think this might also need looking at, like people enhance a creature when it's decently strong all for it to be overshadowed by an apex and you have 0 way of getting the coin and catalysts back.

fading glacier
dusky valve
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Day 25 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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Day 30 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

Officially one month of asking for an enhancement catalyst overhaul

hexed wraith
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One month birthday here we go!

dusky valve
# dusky valve Voting Space

@frosty sage @robust nebula Could you kindly pass these suggestions on to the team? A lot of the community would like to experience gameplay with fully enhanced creatures, but the catalyst cost to do so are prohibitively high. Thanks 🙏

dusky valve
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Day 31 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

frosty sage
fierce creek
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YippeTrex_Smile

finite pivot
dusky valve
bronze anvil
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Day 32 👀

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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dusky valve
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Day 44 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

bronze anvil
fading glacier
bronze anvil
fading glacier
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Ya, at the same time there's still alot of dna available from it if you compare it to the catylyst fusion system that is really bad value

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Just a bit over 15 days and you can get one to 25

bronze anvil
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Still. You can get 2000 a day and you spend it on catalysts which have more value

fading glacier
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1850, and ya, the choice is the biggest thing

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I recommend doe to those nowhere near catalysts yet

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If there was a worthwhile alternative to catalysts I would probably split it between catalysts and doe

bronze anvil
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It's only 500 for 150 bronze.
You can already enchant something E1 with 1500 at 450 bronze catz

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It's brainless choice tbh.

fading glacier
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Only thing is its useless if you don't have lv 30 creatures

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(Although we don't know if catalysts are permanent, I hope it is)

bronze anvil
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Fair but why not save up now and level your favorite creature while also saving the catz

fading glacier
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For me I'm working on my ref enhancements that is now 2 days of brawl to t3 (minus coins)

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I am wishing I wasn't missing out on some of that doe though

fading glacier
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Or it's hypothetical hybrid

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Or orolo which helps in raids

bronze anvil
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Then you'd go for doe ofc.
But atm it's rexy g3 lol

bronze anvil
fading glacier
bronze anvil
fading glacier
fading glacier
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I'm just glad there's a good way to get catalysts now though

bronze anvil
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Yeah.
Doe and buck are I think permanently I'm the brawl selection so that both increases their value. But to the catalysts it's just so hard to pass up.

fading glacier
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Ya, I just feel if you are lower level nowhere near using them you can wait for them

dusky valve
# bronze anvil Ehem, it's day 47 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enchantments catalyst co...

I didn’t forget about the petition, the opposite in fact. I’ve been giving it a bit of thought after the addition of the Brawl, and wondering if perhaps the petition was answered through the new shop.

Granted, the recombination feature is still ridiculously expensive. And I also owe it to all the supporters to continue. So I’ll leave this one up to you guys, should I continue the petition?

fading glacier
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That being said, being the original way they are obtained, would love if it was viable

bronze anvil
trim hawk
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I also think you should. Unless they add ridiculous coin amounts to the brawl shop it's only addressing one aspect of the enhancement problem. I am really happy that I can grind silver catalysts more reliably now.

fading glacier
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I'm not too fussed about the coin costs ngl, especially with the catalysts being this way, although would like coins in the brawl shop too

trim hawk
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I just need more coins to keep up with all the apexes. I'm still working on my gimmicky mortem rex set but I can't make any progress because the new apexes take priority for me.

fading glacier
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Coins are rarely given out fs, I just think the coin costs to enhance is fair compared to levels

trim hawk
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How much are they again for uniques? I don't like the coin cost for apexes

fading glacier
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I thought it's the same

trim hawk
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I don't think so. Maybe it is

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Oh god unique is so much cheaper lol

fading glacier
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It's a bit cheaper for unique

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Lv 1 and 5 cost 50k more

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Wait no, all cost 50k more

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One sec

trim hawk
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An extra 250k more for uniques

fading glacier
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1,050,000 unique, 13 mil apex

trim hawk
dusky valve
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@bronze anvil @fading glacier @trim hawk then continue I shall

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Day 45 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

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trim hawk
fading glacier
trim hawk
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1,300,000 coins?

fading glacier
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Ya

trim hawk
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Gotcha

fading glacier
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With uniques needing 1,050,000

trim hawk
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Gotcha

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I wish I was only spending just over a million coins

fading glacier
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Of course that's counting only enhancement coins

dusky valve
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Day 48 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

dusky valve
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Day 49 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

abstract cosmos
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The amount of coins and dna are absurd. Not jsut to spend in the dino yoy wanna enhance. But to get components to a level where you are allowed to use them

dusky valve
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Day 50 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

Officially, 50 days of asking for an reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs 5️⃣0️⃣

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@somber pumice There’s a trend going around social media where a post has to get a certain amount of likes and someone has to comment for some request to be granted.

Might be a stretch, but how many likes for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs? And who has to comment?

dusky valve
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Day 51 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

boreal fern
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Please please please please

dusky valve
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bronze anvil
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Day 60!

dusky valve
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Day 60 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

🔴⚪️🔵 Happy 4th of July 🔴⚪️🔵

dusky valve
dusky valve
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dusky valve
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bronze anvil
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Day 63!

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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abstract cosmos
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Day 65 because this needs to happen

dusky valve
dusky valve
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Day 65 of asking for a reduction/overhaul of enhancement catalyst costs

abstract cosmos
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Asking for decreases coat and increased yeild

dusky valve
# abstract cosmos Asking for decreases coat and increased yeild

Decreased cost per recombination and/or increased yield is the best bet for now. Gold/silver/bronze should yield standardized amounts that parallel brawl shop reward system.

5,000 meter limit for 150 bronze
10,000 meter limit for 150 silver
15,000 meter limit for 150 gold

dusky valve
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dusky valve
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fading glacier
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It was asked to avoid the "day whatever" as it is essentially spamming, would hate to see action taken

dusky valve
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fierce creek
# dusky valve By mods?

Yeah by the mods because the bots might see it as spamming and you could get temporary or permanently banned for it

fading glacier