Better tourney rewards

[sharp dirge]

It’s all in the title (Does not include end tourney incubator reward)

[warped stone]

Yes

[stone obsidian]

Tourney rewards pretty much just exist to benefit the whales. They're the only ones getting high enough to get any rewards that are worthwhile

[sharp dirge]

Exactly which is why they need to buff the rewards for the players but it also depends on which tournament reward it is.

[real nova]

Spending 30 hours grinding for top spot, when someone can just whip the wallet out and get more coin with one click.

[low vapor]

Bring back rng tourneys

[stone obsidian]

If they buff the lower end rewards then there's less incentive to spend money to evolve your dinos to help you win tournament matches

[sharp dirge]

Exactly

[stone obsidian]

Exactly, which is why they won't do it.

[sharp dirge]

Yep

[low vapor]

Then also buff the higher end rewards, or just all the rewards ig, but that'll obviously cost them shop purchases so no

[lusty lantern]

not to defend this too much but you guys are bringing up the skill tourneys as examples - that's the one thing that is still (mostly) untouched by people spending

apart from unique of course which has enhancements for some god forsaken reason

still, this boost tourney was skill, not advantage, as long as you have stuff unlocked (which tbh you should for legendaries) nothing is really stopping you from grinding for a top spot, not like someone can just spend their way there

[stone obsidian]

Pretty much what I said

[stone obsidian]

Omegas are now an issue for skill tourneys as well. Training point stat increases are allowed.

[lusty lantern]

to an extent yeah but training points get automatically allocated, meaning everyone has 26 levels worth of training points on their creatures. The high level ones have very little difference from the auto allocation. A bit more optimal but it's not really an issue - if you wanna bring up omegas, the problems comes from the abilities that stay locked if you don't have them levelled up. So yeah, omegas do create imbalance as well but the impact is much Much smaller than enhancements in unique

and to be honest as much as it's unfair, it really doesn't stop anyone from pushing into top 250, maybe even top 100, that difference from omegas really only decide the very top of the placements

[stone obsidian]

I'd have to disagree. The whales having all the abilities unlocked provides them a substantial advantage over other omegas that only have the base abilities unlocked. Can't truly be a "skill tournament" when everyone isn't on even footing.

[lusty lantern]

agree there, I'm just challenging the scale

first off, it always caps at the level of the tourney, so for example having a lvl30 Toro doesn't matter that much in rare skill, because everyone will only have 3 abilities, even if theirs have 5 unlocked and yours only 3

2nd, omegas are waaaay more expensive than anything else we have seen before in this game. You can't just chuck it up to whales having it because it will be like 3 people. My point is, the top 10 duking it out with these insane amounts spent doesn't affect you pushing into pretty significant heights (for example, top 250 is a decent benchmark)

don't get me wrong I'm not defending it, I hate any sort of imbalance in skill tourney

I just think you can't really blame omegas and whales for not climbing higher before you hit at least top 250, or around that - in skill tourney of course

[stone obsidian]

I think you're underestimating how many whales are in this game. Much more than 250. The shop has some of the most ridiculous prices of any game (mobile or otherwise) I've ever seen. Companies don't try to sell you things with the expectation that you won't want to buy it.

So that means that there's enough people dumping hundreds or thousands of dollars to keep those shop prices that high. People are regularly buying those $50/$100 incubators in the shop.

[lusty lantern]

oh I know, omegas are just that much more expensive

I'd like to think that even the majority of the whales wouldn't buy a hundred dollar omega package for 600 toro dna

that is such a neglegable amount, especially when you try to push a high level

for example 100 dollars will almost get your unique from 25 to 26

for an omega, that is 500 dollars, plus any ability unlock and so on

this is just my opinion but I think even most whales wouldn't waste the kind of money that omegas require

[stone obsidian]

They certainly would. The thing a lot of people don't talk about when it comes to whales is, not all whales are rich people or kids with mommy/daddy's credit card. A non insignificant portion are people with spending addictions. Spending money they don't really have.

There was a short lived mobile game called Gears POP (based on the Gears of War franchise stylized with funko pops) that was a P2W game as well. Knew a dude whose wife almost left him cause he dropped 5 grand on the game to try and speedrun the achievements

[low vapor]

Gonna remind you 4 people payed 250k to implode on a sumbersible, even if that wasnt the plan

People do get illogical on spending

[lusty lantern]

sanest whale ever

[lusty lantern]

yeah good point, this might just be the sad reality of it

[low vapor]

There's also the amount of money people spend on little stuff that also get bigger like nosejobs

[crystal sierra]

That's not true at all. Anybody that grinds out skill or hunts a lot. Can get top 100 in tournaments fairly easily.

[stone obsidian]

I find that hard to believe. Unless all you do is play JWA with nothing else going on in your life

[low vapor]

Tournaments arent that simple esp skill. Tbh they were never true skill, a crap ton of rng is involved aswell as speedties

Also pretty sure a lvl 16 omega has the adv over a lvl 11/6