desperation and hunger

[prime pelican]

@ancient girder

[ancient girder]

Hard pass on cannibalism

[prime pelican]

why

[ancient girder]

This would be better as a mod

[sterile void]

Quite honestly I'm not a fan of cannibalism either. In games that do allow it like DayZ, players who take the game seriously I've never seen even in desperate states resort to cannibalism and it often is just a sort of trope to trolling/griefing. In other words players who I would say aren't taking the game very seriously will use cannibalism so their characters start giggling which just kind of adds to the toxicity.

"I've been following you around for 2 hours because I'm crazy, can't you hear my character laughing. I eat human flesh" and proceeds to just continue to troll you.

[molten imp]

I dont know why people crying cannibalism is a true survival feature!!! And it should exist!

[prime pelican]

that's why I want the cannibalism to a major negative for survival... you can be a troll but enjoy suffering from debilitating effects when you eat someone and suffer those effects permanently. that's why. cannibalism should be the last resort. I don't want DayZ effect I want cannibalism to be different in Ardem. more realistic.

[sterile void]

I mean the effects are permanent in DayZ until you die obviously and they are pretty detrimental. Uncontrollable laughter and severe shaking and even still no one uses it in a serious manner.

[prime pelican]

but did you read the other effects in my original post

[sterile void]

I understand you're recommending debilitating effects, but my point is if a player is choosing not to take those effects seriously for the sake of trolling, what does it matter. They get to act goofy and funky for an hour, then die and it resets.

[prime pelican]

that's why I want those effects to be more realistic not just luaghing till you die. I want uncontrollable sobbing, tremors, vomiting, I want the tremors to make it harder for you to craft, I want trauma mechanics even hallucinations of the victims face on the zombies you kill or even schizophrenia...my first post mantione3d that consuming flesh should be the last resort. true you might have trolls but those trolls will have a rude awakening when they get in a gun fight but they started crying uncontrollably because of the human burger they ate 10 hours ago.

[sterile void]

I totally get all that, just in my experience players who are suffering the effects of cannibalism in other games aren't worried about getting in gunfights or crafting or playing the game. They're doing it because it gives them that avenue to basically act crazy.

And once they're done, they kill themselves.

[prime pelican]

true but the effects that dayz have arent that debilitating. I eat a man I get the laughing disease and tremors and then troll for 3 hours. with ardem it should be a horrible experience for the cannibals themselves

[sterile void]

So if someone was in a really desperate state, why not just stash their gear and respawn, why resort to cannabilism if there's no cure and the effects are so bad.