Light parkour

[round bay]

Climbing should be an important survival strategy against hordes. It should drain a significant amount of stamina, so players can't abuse it constantly. However, low-hanging roofs, structures, or other climbable objects could give players a chance to escape and save themselves in dangerous situations. This would add a light parkour element to the gameplay and create more dynamic survival options.

[green drift]

would be nice if its possible to practise some exercices to getting better and increase the body abilities

[sinful coral]

We dont want a game wher the palyer who have more time to play get lot more preference.

[green drift]

i mean it could be changed in what amount you gonna skill abilites

[tough condor]

i like this but would be hard to balance people could abuse this for raids and many other things. but would be cool if they could get it right. like for example a base roof if they could mantle on it would be a night mare and they are other things i could think about as well but maybe they could fix it. also the average person even if they are super fit carrying a lot of gear this wouldn't be viable. and they cannot add skills to this game it would be a nightmare to balance that is why they are going for the more servers approach you can add skills if you wanted but the base game won't have that. i agree basic mantle should be a thing like in day z or zomboid but straight up parkour is a bad idea for balance reasons.

[sinful coral]

The stamina system was good un DayZ i think.

[tough condor]

it is i don't mind parkour. it's a good idea in someways but skills are a no go if they add them game would be a nightmare to balance they are going for realism if you got gear on you are climbing up a roof. it's super hard to climb anything if you have something on your back but if you didn't i could see how you could mantle.

[sinful coral]

if we got barbed wire etc what can usd as we want like put it on side the wall, or just between 2 tree etc. Thats can cunter this.

[green drift]

i would be nice if everybody could have these skill setting and depending on their equipment they get handicaped 😄

[tough condor]

that is why they got servers and mod support.

that's the amazing thing about this game that's why this game will succesful

[green drift]

could gain a lot of succes in their position atm

[tough condor]

yeah for sure i think it's a milltion dollar game in the making people really don't understand what is coming now the playtest might not be everything ya know it takes time but this game on full dive will cook other games.

[green drift]

if several things are in the focus and can be implement very well in the EA or even in the final release version it could become very good an become a unique title thats true tho

but under this main topic
some sort of parcour or special movment abilites available for all players would be nice

[noble compass]

That's definitely optimism at it finest. I hope it pans out well, but it's going to have a lot of issues when it finally hits EA and by no means is it going to be perfect.

[tough condor]

if they got everything that they plan to do. in the dev then it's by no means a stretch it's very possible all we can do is wait and see this is just my op. and even after the playest it won't be perfect i've seen games like rust i was a early access member become what it is today i even got the frog boots from being a early access player. they said the same thing about rust but i seen the potentail. and that's any game all games have issues my biggest concern rn is the playtest they might have to push it back cause of the hype these devs want it perfect and people are so harsh over stuff they don't understand in game dev that's it is. going to take awhile to get the game together. lets be honest i'm going to add this as well look how shit day z is bro and scum but the only reason why people play that is because they is nothing else out how much worse can ardem be than day z not much. cause that game is doing the bare minimum and still somehow has a player base cause they cannot leave it because there is nothing else lol.

[noble compass]

DayZ and Scum are two of the most successful games in their genre. Playtests aren't meant to be perfect in any sense of the word, they're designed literally to test, not entertain.

[tough condor]

that's what i just said lol

i basically described to you how people are and they complain no matter what the playtest will have in it just have faith in the devs

or just be like me and make videos about it and go crazy choice is yours lol

[noble compass]

You've completely lost me at this point, but ok.

[tough condor]

there is no point lol the point is i'm done talking lol.

i already explained it above i said you can either have faith in the devs or make youtube videos like me to pass time.

[round bay]

I see everyone's concern from raid perspectives, but i mentioned only climbable buildings that are very low. Like eye level only where you can hop to near by building of similar height. It is very realistic if you running from zombie. Now if talking about getting into someone base it would be much harder i bet. I think climbing and jumping objects should be a thing in this game. maybe even big tree climbs to save your ass and wait for zombies to leave. But it wouldn't give any other advantages clearly but saving yourself. I don't think there should be a skill for it.

[tough condor]

i'm pretty sure you can do that already like jumping and vaulting. or atleast i hope so.

[round bay]

I hope so too. There still shouldnt be unraidable base. I know devs will give us freedom of mods later. So as long as they give us freedom some climbing it will be still great.

[night hazel]

i think games do this already

[waxen fable]

this is called mantling and vaulting unless you mean scaling buildings and I agree increasing your situational awareness when your in pvp would add more difficulty when surviving but make it slow and clunky. were survivors not athletes.

[round bay]

you right. I am not super good with English. So i see how it convolutes the topic a bit. But we also not fat PC players when we out there surviving. I bet we loose shit ton of weight and be slim and strong to carry and climb. Like in walking dead, people learned so much stuff in a short time...lol

[waxen fable]

true but if that's the case then they would need to add a stat and progression system to thee game such as physical fitness when constantly moving and climbing the more you move and climb the stronger and fast you get

[round bay]

hopefully that will take place

[waxen fable]

@wraith zephyr

[wraith zephyr]

Lets not forget, we are regular joes in Ardem. I dont want this game turning into dead by daylight, even if its nerfed. Pulling yourself onto a low hanging roof isnt as easy as games show.

[round bay]

Not if you are fat. I hope there will be something realistic to if you eat too much you will get fat and wont be able to climb shit..
Because I am a girl and I can climb low roof like nothing irl. So what you say it BS or you missing limbs.

[tough condor]

try climbing a roof with 100 pounds of gear on. or even 50 pounds of gear on after you've been running for 10 mins not inculding being wet btw or if you are hurt or sick you have to take into account a lot of stuff you aren't surviving in real life you are fed and you are in a nice comfy home your energy levels in a survival in real life are way different and strength levels would be way different if you was surviving. most people that survive in real life are super skinny because bodybuilders for example in real life aren't even possible way back then due to diet and stuff. and only the rich could normally afford to be fed and be healthy people was still strong mind you but in reality they was limited in what they could due to nutirion. i could add more but i don't want say to much hopefully you understand. did you know that most people in survival lose almost 20 to 30 pounds when they go on survival shows. because that's how brutal it is to acutally survive most of the population if a real zombie outbreak happened wouldn't survive maybe the first month. they can say they would but saying something and the reality of it is entirely different.

[noble compass]

That's a good point, what you can do in a serious survival situation carrying all your gear and what you can do after getting up off the coach after eating dinner are vastly different.

[waxen fable]

very true my fat ass aint climbing shit

[round bay]

that makes great sense, but would you climb with 100lb anywhere in a right mind? Like in Scum you have lots of weight when you get your gear wet, if you get on the bottom of a lake you sink like a rock, I value my life and of course take all my gear off on the spot ...its either gear or life. We are logical after all here. Devs must account into consideration human limitations for realism they pushing. And no matter how you deprived in real life, adrenalin can do some real magic. I have seen and heard many crazy stories of miracle or super power strength when life or death situation occur. You wanna live I believe you will fucking climb a tree without a singe branch to grab on. And then you will be...how the fuck i got there...LOL...happened to me before.

[noble compass]

Adrenaline can certainly give you some extra gas, but it by no means is a catalyst for super power strength especially if your body wasn't already capable of that type of strength.

[round bay]

Maybe they will add some adrenaline shots into game. Which are rare loot.

[tough condor]

i'm all for suggestions but it comes to a point where it's just unrealistic. and even if they added the shots it wouldn't be a instant effect it takes 5 to 10 mins to kick in. in real life if you want a looter shooter you'd be better off playing rust. also i've played scum. scum has a player base of 7k players and day z has one that is over 100k scum is a dying game because of bad dev decisions. they want realism and popping a adrenline pen wouldn't be realistic. it takes time for that stuff to work

[round bay]

Some people need to stick to their guns like you. I get you dont agree with it, I wont be arguing or trying to convince you. I heard your opinion. There is no point to beat "dead horse"😁 .

[tough condor]

it's not that i don't agree with it's just unrealistic. but yeah i agree no point in talking about it. because it dosen't make sense. and will be unfollowing this post much respect.

[round bay]

Sure. It doesnt

[noble compass]

To be fair, an adrenaline shot brings almost immediate effect. That's why it's sometimes used for resuscitation to restart the heart.