#Preservation in aberrus

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tender ridge
tender ridge
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also would be amazing if anyone is able to figure out why the raid is failing so hard

gray elm
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I'm not an expert at reading logs but putting your best pull through wowanalyzer it seems you're not casting your best spells very often. Only 3 casts of dreambreath and only 5 of spiritbloom

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1 of the dreambreaths was also missing call of Ysera. You also only cast dreamflight and emerald communion once but that might be a heal cd assign thing

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as for why you're failing: Experiments relies heavily on timings. You REALLY want to make sure the second of the 3 bosses dies before he gets his third set of dispels cast

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its a massive difference

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(i'm not sure if thats what happening to your guild specifically but it is a massive pain point of the fight)

tender ridge
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thanks

supple epoch
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can dream breath about twice as much as you do on some of these pulls. decent amount of downtime between some casts. wanna make sure to be casting something at almost all times, minimize any gaps there.

looking at a few pulls seems to me you have a pretty good idea of the general playstyle. you hardcast your echo a ton (good thing). spend into reversion. nothing wrong there.

big cds are a bit more of an issue. early and often and rotating through them for each major dmg event is good practice for learning and in pugs. wanna get things on cd early. some of your stasis casts look weird. verdant in several, wanna do that before the stasis cast and fit in all of db ta sb. good for the burst on this fight.

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why the raid is failing is a bigger question. this fight is determined by doing the mechanics well, assume some of them are getting messy/out of control in places and causing cascading issues. can look a bit later to actually check but would bet it's something like that.

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@tender ridge

tender ridge
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i have started putting VE a lot in my stasis either right before DB for CoY, or as last cast for lifebind, should I just not put VE in stasis ever?
I try more and more to put stuff on cooldown like you said, but especially early on, people are just full HP. by the time I reach empower 3 SB on some mechanic its already 100% overhealing
and thank you

gray elm
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you can just ve before the stasis

tender ridge
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i think the RL doesn't really care retrospectively so since the raid wont be awakened for 2 weeks I guess it doesn't make a difference knowing what is going wrong

gray elm
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to get the coy buff

tender ridge
# gray elm you can just ve before the stasis

I know, its always just been awkward for me, many times I know I have DB first in stasis but when its time to use it, or it expires, VE is just on cooldown, this has helped a bit

supple epoch
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there is a stasis you would use ve in but it's a bit niche. you can safely put db sb ta in 99% of the time.

tender ridge
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I guess stupid question, but how can I get better at "pressing my keys," or do you have any tips, because I've been told that every time I posted my logs so far despite practicing a lot

gray elm
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just playing more tbh

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or at least thats how i generally learn it

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youi kinda just figure out when good times during each fight are good for your buttons

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and the more you play the spec the quicker you figure those out on a new fight

tender ridge
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I guess wiping a lot like that is a good opportunity for personal growth so next time I'd already know what to press when. Not as useful when the boss dies quickly and then theres a week before even a single more pull, and heroic practice isn't really carrying over

gray elm
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yea fated seasons a bit of a mess

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but on Fyrakk last season let me tell you by pull number 238 you really know how to do that phase 1 sequencing dracthyr_lulmao

supple epoch
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ideally you get to the point where you dont have to think much about the pressing of buttons and can think ahead a bit about upcoming spell sequences and chain them together in the spell queue window so you have zero downtime between casts. stuff like planning for movement and being able to react to unexpected dmg quickly cuts the downtime down further.

tender ridge
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having problems with uptime in general. pretty much every single spell I use too little. It's easy to chain echoes back to back, but then I'm wasting time deciding what to press inbetween bursts, and it gets especially bad when I have to dodge stuff and the only thing I have available is empowers. Also I can't figure out how to use hover properly (inbetween GCDs or whatever).
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/q7Tf2FbDdJyhYH8P#fight=32&type=healing&source=12
also i have a lot of things without keybinds (i click them) because I don't have enough keys. Stuff like N, M, ctrl-5, shift-5, I still click because it's too far, and stuff like potions and healthstone I often just forget to use (probably because no key bound). heres my hotbar, any tips on what more I can bind where? I know I have spells that are useless in raid on 2, 3, 4 but I use them in M+ and it would mess with muscle memory to have two different hotbars

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gray elm
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wasting a prime keybind like 2 on azure strike is not something i'd recommend

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same with disint on 5 tbh

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the 2 racials on 3 and 4 is a bit weird as well

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i tend to prefer modifier keybinds for things with cd's and no mod keybinds for things with no cd

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evoker is a bit weird because of empowers

tender ridge
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basically everything from 2 to shift 2 just landed there while levelling and ive grown to it, so i feel if I unbind them in raid I will try to azure strike boss for some reason and accidentally cast rewind or whatever, but I guess I just have to bite the bullet

gray elm
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the solution to that is to just not want to azure strike the boss

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azure strike is an never worth the mana cost in raid

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you only ever press that button if you need to slow things

tender ridge
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in m+ i use it to snare spiteful ghosts but having two hotbars is so confusing. i have quell on different keys for pres/open world and already keep confusing them

gray elm
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oh yea in m+ its a usable button

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slows are very nice there

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but not "azure strike on 2" usable 😄

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my azure strike is on G

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seems you're not using R yet? unless i'm blind

tender ridge
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i think it's unbound yeah

gray elm
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R and shift R are pretty comfy keybinds from my experience

tender ridge
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what spells on awkward keys make more sense in 2-4? most of the things I struggle to reach/have to click are the big cooldowns anyway

gray elm
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normally its my spammable spells i put there, on evoker its my empowers

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because i play double tap

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so having to double tap a modifier keybind for those would be annyoing

tender ridge
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i have FB on shift 1 because I used to instant cast it all the time before I figured out what leaping flames is, I agree that's very awkward, might put that in that area

gray elm
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my bar is something like: rev DB LF SB FB TA

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1 to 6

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and then 7 is healthstone because i am a silly goose

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and then i have q e r t y f g z x c v n

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and shift modifiers of most of those

tender ridge
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N is impossible for me but yeah R and G being unbound is odd

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is it possible to make a macro to use potion and cast/empower if the potion is up? maybe I can just make a potion-DF key that just casts DF if potion is on cd so I at least use the potion at some point, rather than never?

gray elm
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

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not sure

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N is a button i press with my thumb btw

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if that helps

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its my rewind