#🐧┃Linux Discussion

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long umbra
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Accha let's leave it

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@frigid spruce did we kill you or smth

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What did you do in the end?

pallid marsh
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Yeah even you could be ai promoting ai

blazing vault
woven crag
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suse is goodly underratted stable

blazing vault
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stability has taken a massive jump in most distros(arch and fedora) with inclusion of higher quality maintainers, they very rarely break

woven crag
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but gamescope 2 dar ak tateo kam kore na

blazing vault
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Fedora idk, not so stable, arch has been getting lot more funding

woven crag
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kahini bujhlam na

blazing vault
woven crag
blazing vault
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Try on gnome, it won't be sluggy

blazing vault
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Nvedia GPUs play wierd with hyprland

woven crag
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should i enable both?

blazing vault
woven crag
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amar monitor 2 dar aktao support kore na btw

blazing vault
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It is beta

blazing vault
woven crag
blazing vault
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i installed linux on my moms work laptop, so far great

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cachyos W

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chat do i install hyprland in there 😭

woven crag
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i use uwsm

long umbra
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Your ego is exposed bro.

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OpenSUSE had slow mirrors but it was one of the best ever KDE experience.

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While Arch, even by KDE devs call it not so good.

long umbra
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And your arch update fked up Nvidia drivers once again

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Needing me to reinstall the driver.

long umbra
long umbra
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But your typical Linux starter doesn't know shit about what's a tty so stop shoving arch to everyone.

long umbra
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Clang 18 vs Clang 19.2 is what I'm talking about.

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So it's not even the best choice for devs not to mention a fk ton of aur dev packages are out of date.

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Just because your fking window managers work that doesn't mean that the distro is automatically superior.

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Most people don't even understand what's a WM properly.

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Besides XeonBD has most likely deprecated arch servers as they're not functional whereas Ubuntu and Linux mint ones are still going strong, proving faster mirrors than arch.

long umbra
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And also you need to implement actual x86_64v3 instructions and mathematical operations to your C/C++ program If you want any meaningful performance difference which most simple software do not.

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Or might be unnecessary.

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If your program doesn't have any x86_64v3 instructions calling then compiling with those flags ain't gonna change anything.

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I can't update vencord anymore using yay for some reason

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A NORMAL PERSON IS NOT THAT CAPABLE TO MOVE THOUGH THESE.

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Stop shoving your statement that arch Is best or the mainstream option as, by design, it was never meant to be like that.

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This is why I recommend distros like Fedora or PopOS

long umbra
turbid cobalt
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Does wayland support adding custom resolutions?

long umbra
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On Google or smth

fallen raptor
fallen raptor
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That's my problem, I couldn't find any solution for it

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Till this day

turbid cobalt
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T^T

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My screen turns into a box when I switch to wayland

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1024x768 60.00
800x600 60.32 56.25
848x480 60.00
640x480 59.94
These are the default resolutions

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who even uses these nowadays

woven crag
woven crag
turbid cobalt
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: 0

long umbra
# turbid cobalt : 0

Yeah you need to get proper drivers or if you're using an adapter like vga to HDMI then replace it.

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And in UEFI bios disable CSM

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As that can effect startup resolution too.

pallid marsh
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Nah hot ass convo

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I gotta join

fallen raptor
fallen raptor
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HP Victus

woven crag
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like xmg laptops gigabyte have 2 models. i think walton have one

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basically tuxedo buys laptops from clevo and rebrands them. so does other brands. and that's why mine wroks with tuxedo drivers

woven crag
long umbra
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@dusty ibex

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Clang 20

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Dev tools have official support + official repos for fedora and Ubuntu

pallid marsh
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Crazy arch haters

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Back in the days people were bullied for using ubuntu

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Nowadays they bully you for using arch lmao

dusty ibex
frigid spruce
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I got my first job

fallen raptor
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I mean

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Sell

woven crag
long umbra
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Bhai ar koto arch re defend korbi re bhai

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There's no such thing as the best or the goated in the software or especially in the operating system world as one of your arch Linux and window manager wizards and YouTubers distrotube said it.

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Best is only subjective to the person and it shouldn't be forced into others without much thought.

fallen raptor
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You'll suffer no matter what you use

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If you use Windows, Bloatware, telemetry

long umbra
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It is what it is.

fallen raptor
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If you use MacOS, lack of customizability

long umbra
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Newbies can't use Arch Linux on first try unless they wanna get into some serious problems and time wasting troubleshooting.

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Or even it's derivatives

fallen raptor
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If you use desktop Linux, it's a very steep learning curve

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No matter what OS you use, you'll always struggle with something

long umbra
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But atleast you'd say that a distro like pop os atleast has all the components necessary to turn it into a good usable desktop.

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Crash handlers, power managers and stuff that you need to manually install and manage in arch.

fallen raptor
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Right

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I'd say any distro that doesn't default to snap, and doesn't have telemetry is good 💀🙏

long umbra
fallen raptor
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I'm a "use what you want" mindset

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We gotta cope with it

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You can't make everyone in the world use the same platform

long umbra
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Yeah that's the thing

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And as for suggesting newbies, you can't force the hardest system as they won't be able to understand Linux properly and smoothly and just blame the devs and move back to windows.

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Arch is hard to maintain.

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Long term

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Unless you're a developer

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Still time waste

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Hence no company ever considers Arch, without extensive modifications and requirements to be ever viable.

fallen raptor
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It's the corporates

long umbra
fallen raptor
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Windows was a viable option

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Well windows 7 lol

long umbra
fallen raptor
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And Microsoft ruined it, greedy ahhs

long umbra
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Fr

fallen raptor
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Was still good for basic web browsing and yk

long umbra
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Windows 8.1 felt smooth too on older hardware

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Hence I used it a lot too.

fallen raptor
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I have 0 idea about windows 8.1

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But I had a Windows phone

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With 8.1

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It was nice as well

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Prime Microsoft

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Partnered up with Nokia

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It was Model Lumia 1320

long umbra
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Damn. Those can be modded to run Linux lmao.

fallen raptor
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I bricked em, tryna run Android

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Hard hard bricked as well

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The side buttons were weak Bru, they broke

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Couldn't even enter flash mode

long umbra
fallen raptor
long umbra
fallen raptor
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Went to repair shop, they just taped some buttons from other android phones

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Not even solder

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I tried looking for a replacement button assembly (with flex cable)

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And it was like 1k taka

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From an Indian website

long umbra
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AliExpress?

fallen raptor
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Welp I didn't know it was a thing back then

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I'm just a kid te hee

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Soo

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I left it in BD

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Should've brought it

long umbra
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Well sadge

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You can get the first surface rt for free if u wanna fk around and find out.

fallen raptor
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Here it would've been like 10 bucks for the replacement

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My dumb ahh didn't realize when I came

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In the US

fallen raptor
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Looks like a Fun device (Chromebook level specs lol)

long umbra
fallen raptor
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Ye thrift stores a good option

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Trash bin, I found a Samsung Tablet-like PC

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With i5 4th Gen CPU innit

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Dual core

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Fans and everything were all rusty

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Ram didn't work, I tested them

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Screen smashed

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It was one of em All in ones

long umbra
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Grab em lmfao

dusty ibex
fallen raptor
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Drop it man

long umbra
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Retards.

long umbra
blazing vault
blazing vault
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idk how bro came up with "arch isnt a full os" tf does that even mean, it most definately is, when you are talking about arch derivatives and even arch base, runing pacman -S gnome installs full gnome suite, pacman -S kde-plasma installs full kde suite

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simply the packaging is different which seems to go over head

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too dense

dusty ibex
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dusty ibex
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huge community and support is my point

long umbra
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In terms of overall usability and support and I mean official support and not some weird ahh person suggesting stuff that may or may not work

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Those distros are still ahead.

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They have official packages for dev tools.

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They have official repos for enterprise software like Davinchi resolve

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And by that I meant official and not community maintained packages

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Arch breaks often

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Arch is harder to set up.

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Arch doesn't have necessary things for a proper user experience.

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Arch needs work to work well in laptops

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Arch has some nice NVIDIA packages and I use Arch because of that but it's still is a subpar experience as you can one click install Nvidia drivers instead of writing multiple commands.

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For both upgrading and downgrading.

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So stop shoving arch when things like PopOS exist to newbies.

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Fedora had most of my stuff covered though copr and I can just install regular rpm packages made for any RPM distro.

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I would switch back to fedora when I get access to my main PC where Nvidia drivers work without downgrading.

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Arch is also unviable for corps to use too because there isn't any official support.

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Or server usage.

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It's a neiche distro like void or Gentoo and was never meant to be mainstream.

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Yeah sure repos aren't different then why are you shoving arch if I can get the same apps but a far superior experience as a newbie if I use something like PopOS instead of arch based OSes?

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System76 makes laptops with Nvidia GPUs and Pop is designed with that in mind.

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So stop this nonsense by saying arch is goated or what ever. Support the Linux community regardless of their distro or their knowledge.

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Otherwise quit having that delusion that Linux is ever going to be mainstream.

blazing vault
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arch is the easiest

blazing vault
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how

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it is all the same calamares installer

blazing vault
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yeah, you just install nvedia-dkms and forget about it

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you can even boot into proprietery nvedia mode in cachyos installer, and calamares will automatically install that package if you are in that iso mode

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what is bro even talking about

blazing vault
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you have given no concrete example that drives the point home, about arch being less usable, i am afterall recomending cachyos not base arch
you are just yaping about it being less usable with no "evidence"

blazing vault
woven crag
dusty ibex
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i use due to being chad

woven crag
dusty ibex
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chrome?

woven crag
dusty ibex
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such as

woven crag
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my chrome on windows is hacked doesn't matter what i do

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i have etherium wallet in it

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wehen i transfer something in thet wallet it get's transfered to another place automaticly

dusty ibex
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does that happen with other browsers? edge, firefox

woven crag
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maybe edgge

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but didn't happedn in firefox or chromium

dusty ibex
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hmm

blazing vault
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chromium is the most secure

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even more so than firefox

woven crag
blazing vault
woven crag
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chrome have more telematry fictions than chromium

blazing vault
blazing vault
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If chrome is affected, all Chromium's are affected

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Likely

woven crag
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with same extententios and data

blazing vault
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That looks for chromes appdara

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Data

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Steals cookies

woven crag
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even if i coppy extention data to other browsers it does not effect

blazing vault
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💀

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Wipe your windows

woven crag
blazing vault
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It keeps coming back from your backup files

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Probably

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I think that is the most likely reason

woven crag
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i don't have any baackup files

blazing vault
woven crag
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yes my btrfs partitons

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nevermind i don't use windows for wallet anymore

blazing vault
long umbra
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Thank you but I think I should be switching to Librewolf or Ladybird if possible

fallen raptor
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Gang drop it

fallen raptor
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There's no OS/software or even platform that is 100% perfect for everyone and updated

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Every distro is specifically made for specific people

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Are you gonna hate on Tails because of the UI or the fact it only has a browser?

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No ofc, cuz it has its own purpose

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And yk know it

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And so does Arch and Fedora

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Chrome might be updated on one distro, and another one might have it a bit outdated

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And same goes for clang

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Maybe Fedora users use clang the most

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And chrome might be their second priority

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That's why devs prob updated that first

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It depends on the user base and their choices

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If a user thinks "this distro" is better for him

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He has his free will to choose

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Every distro has their benefits

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And cons

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There is no point of arguing about a user's choice

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Every distro is good

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And bad

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Besides arguing in Ramadan is crazy

pallid marsh
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Its not a steep learning curve

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Even using windows for a newcomer would be crazy

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Windows is just more alienating

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For example people dont use edge

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But they use edge

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To download another browser?

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Its just simply too crazy

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But most people often switch from windows to linux

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So its not really linux's fault

pallid marsh
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Ngl fedora users are crazy

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Thats why i recommend everyone to use windows

long umbra
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Bhai ami just bujaitesilam je kiyer liga arch is a bad option for newbs.

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@pallid marsh

pallid marsh
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Wait who is noob here?

fallen raptor
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Stop arguing in Ramadan gng

fallen raptor
fallen raptor
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Well tbh it's not really steep

pallid marsh
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so its all subjective

fallen raptor
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Exactly

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That's my point

woven crag
blazing vault
raw hollow
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Isaac signing in 🗣️🗣️🗣️

blazing vault
raw hollow
woven crag
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GM

blazing vault
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Shishi mulmul

pallid marsh
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What router should i buy yall

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Thats good 💀

jaunty quartz
outer rapids
pallid marsh
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Idk if its low

outer rapids
pallid marsh
outer rapids
outer rapids
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For 5000 best is cudy m3000 personal opinion

blazing vault
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turut turut turut tu da da da

blazing vault
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c6 can run linux

civic cairn
blazing vault
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turut turut turut turut turut turut tu da da da

turbid cobalt
woven crag
blazing vault
woven crag
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Ded

vagrant crag
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i hate

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hate

long umbra
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I came back.

fallen raptor
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Glad the stupid argument ended

long umbra
turbid cobalt
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ling gaang guli guli

violet ice
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Can I remove xfce default window manager and install i3 as the window manager in Termux XFCE native-no-proot? I'm afraid to do it myself because I might mess something up. I downloaded Termux XFCE native-no-proot from droidmaster github but I have no idea where to start.

blazing vault
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i am not even going to read it

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no xfce in termux please

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you wont get any graphical acceleration

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learn how to use neovim

violet ice
blazing vault
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there is no other way

blazing vault
violet ice
blazing vault
violet ice
blazing vault
violet ice
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Auto completion sucks

blazing vault
violet ice
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Notepad++ real chad

blazing vault
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I coded for a while in India with phone, didn't have my pc on me, workable in termux neovim

blazing vault
violet ice
blazing vault
blazing vault
violet ice
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15.8

blazing vault
blazing vault
# violet ice 15.8

Keep on it bro, ai gonna replace you tho💀, Manus ai not joking around

violet ice
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Why are you so toxic

blazing vault
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They ain't messing around

violet ice
blazing vault
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You'd be hitting a metal pole if you put all your eggs in "programming" basket

blazing vault
violet ice
violet ice
blazing vault
violet ice
blazing vault
# violet ice + mental torture

I suggest you do not code in lower level languages and waste your time, only thing you should be doing is js and ts 💀, that is if you have time

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violet ice
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No I don't need

blazing vault
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What's the point of graphics then?

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No acceleration

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Just use neovim

violet ice
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For rice

violet ice
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4.5 sleep

blazing vault
violet ice
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Idk

blazing vault
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Anyways here is something you would benefit from

#
###############
# Colors/themes
###############

### Force black colors for drawer and dialogs
# use-black-ui = true

###############
# HW keyboard shortcuts
###############

### Disable hardware keyboard shortcuts.
# disable-hardware-keyboard-shortcuts = true

### Open a new terminal with ctrl + t (volume down + t)
# shortcut.create-session = ctrl + t

### Go one session down with (for example) ctrl + 2
# shortcut.next-session = ctrl + 2

### Go one session up with (for example) ctrl + 1
# shortcut.previous-session = ctrl + 1

### Rename a session with (for example) ctrl + n
# shortcut.rename-session = ctrl + n

###############
# Bell key
###############

### Vibrate device (default).
# bell-character = vibrate

### Beep with a sound.
# bell-character = beep

### Ignore bell character.
# bell-character = ignore

###############
# Back key
###############

### Send the Escape key.
# back-key=escape

### Hide keyboard or leave app (default).
# back-key=back

###############
# Keyboard issue workarounds
###############

### Letters might not appear until enter is pressed on Samsung devices
# enforce-char-based-input = true

### ctrl+space (for marking text in emacs) does not work on some devices
# ctrl-space-workaround = true
extra-keys = [ \
    ['ESC', '(', ')', '{', '}', '[', ']', '/', '\\\\'], \
    ['TAB', 'CTRL', 'ALT', '=', '|', ':', "'",  'UP','"'], \
    ['<', '>', '-', '_', '&', ';', 'LEFT', 'DOWN', 'RIGHT'] \
]
violet ice
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Wtf

blazing vault
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Termux config
Put it in .termux/termux.properties

violet ice
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I have nvim already

blazing vault
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That's termux config

violet ice
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*nvchad

blazing vault
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You need a code runner? And a pass thru like terminal? I have 2 neovim plugins for that

violet ice
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Fast tell me Why you are obsessed about nvim

blazing vault
blazing vault
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There is nothing else usable

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Anywhere

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All other editors suck

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This sucks too, but still usesble

violet ice
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Most of the time I use nano

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I don't know why

blazing vault
blazing vault
violet ice
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I got 78% that why my dad broke my monitor

blazing vault
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I get your frustration bro

violet ice
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-18k

blazing vault
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A poor morale means less productivity

violet ice
blazing vault
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That's likely the issue

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Relax

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Then reconsider how much effort it should take

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78%, ong bro, you can do better

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With much less effort

violet ice
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I don't want to live my life

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Suside is haram

blazing vault
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And yk bd teachers grade on length of answers, just bend your damn knees

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Bro

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Write bullshit

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Just longer

blazing vault
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Not worth being stubborn and writing only part question asks for

violet ice
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What is your age?

blazing vault
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I am old bro

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20

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4 years on you

violet ice
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what you do for living

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Job?

blazing vault
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I literally do nothing atm

violet ice
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Gym?

blazing vault
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Lol

blazing vault
violet ice
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10

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Just one year

blazing vault
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Already much more usable with my config

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Extra keys

blazing vault
violet ice
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I have a lil keyboard

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Can you give me starship config

blazing vault
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I don't use thag

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There is the blue pill zsh with z4h config
And there is the red pill nu shell

violet ice
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Why it's slow?

blazing vault
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It just is

violet ice
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I use zsh

blazing vault
violet ice
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Z4h?

blazing vault
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Or just use the nu shell

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It is fastest there is, very noticeable in proot environment

violet ice
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If u can code then why aren't you get job

blazing vault
violet ice
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?

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I didn't study at all I used my phone ≈ 40% time

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Lol

blazing vault
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I don't even have a gf right now💀, I talk to 3 people as far as socializing goes

blazing vault
violet ice
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I have 0 friends offline 😎

blazing vault
violet ice
blazing vault
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Dumass or no, having a talk buddy doesn't hurt

violet ice
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I mean dumbass = selfish

blazing vault
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Living that reality rn

dusty ibex
dusty ibex
dusty ibex
blazing vault
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Claude 3.7 is proof ai ain't slowing down, they overcame the obstacle of shitty ai too fast

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manus ai was upfront about it, it is qwq and Claude wrapper

dusty ibex
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claude 3.5 jokon ber hoise tokonei bujlam future dark.
kintu manus/devin onno agent wrapper egulu kisui na. core ai model main bishoi

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oneke manus etare revolutionary agi boltase.
claude credit pacche kom

vagrant crag
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welcome back

blazing vault
woven crag
violet ice
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My dad always broke my stuff if I did something wrong

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I can't type/read Banlish *sorry

pallid marsh
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I will eat ai

fallen raptor
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ayo

fallen raptor
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🔥

turbid cobalt
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ghenchana

vagrant crag
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Riders on the Storm

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Kernel: 6.13.6-arch1-1
-+oooooo+: Uptime: 4 hours, 54 mins
/:-:++oooo+: Packages: 915 (pacman), 8 (flatpak) /++++/+++++++: Shell: bash 5.2.37

violet ice
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Why do people hate Ubuntu?

dusty ibex
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not again

woven crag
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i hate flatpacks sorry

blazing vault
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First they add snap, then they alias apt install as snap install

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Snap is not open source

fallen raptor
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Canonical ew

woven crag
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I'm installing snap in my arch

civic cairn
long umbra
fallen raptor
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gang

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Linkdln learning(Lynda) a good platform to learn Loonix?

pallid marsh
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Snap is actually open source

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The backend isnt

pallid marsh
fallen raptor
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Library pays for it

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Flex

blazing vault
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yes disocrd is opensource too, at this point then, all the client api is known

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omz open source discord

lyric pollen
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My arch broke.

lyric pollen
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I'm officially cooked.

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Grub has given up on me.

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Nothing is showing up.

blazing vault
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how did it possibly break

blazing vault
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enter bootable media, boot into linux

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mount your / and other partition(only what the system uses)

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then
sudo arch-chroot <mountpoint where you mounted>

lyric pollen
lyric pollen
blazing vault
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it isnt arch breaking, likey your storage medium broke

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you can fix(temporarily) with fsck or btrfs equivalent command

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not guaranteed to work

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it will try to put file system to working order

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may also do more harm than good

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gamble

lyric pollen
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Initially it broke cause I deleted a file related to graphics.

lyric pollen
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By the way, the grub part us a problem stemming from trying to reinstall Arch.

vagrant crag
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Why

fallen raptor
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They're flat

woven crag
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yes

fallen raptor
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Jokes aside, I don't hate em

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Only snaps

vagrant crag
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🤡

lyric pollen
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Finally.

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Set up plasma.

woven crag
lyric pollen
woven crag
lyric pollen
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Now I need to make it work with my WiFi adapter...

fallen raptor
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+rolling release

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All that good stuff

lyric pollen
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Aight, got it working now.

long umbra
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This is why I didn't had any input.

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Arch is a huge time waste TBH.

fallen raptor
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aight man drop it

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nobody complained

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maybe in another universe but not this one

long umbra
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Ok

blazing vault
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bro explaining why arch(cachyos) is hard, literally 0 points made, it is just package manager thats different, arch just has superior mirrors and collection of packages

long umbra
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And @civic cairn should I make an actually well structured Linux beginners guide and make a forum here?

blazing vault
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Why do you say this bullshit instead of points, like "this is how fedora is easier"

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It hurts your ego etc etc, why personal

long umbra
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Bro only understanding 10% of the entire argument.

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This is why I hate arch users.

woven crag
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😆

woven crag
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Also Gamescope doesn't work in arch as well

long umbra
blazing vault
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5% is my understanding, 5% is assumptions, because you never elaborate

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Just "it is because I said so"

blazing vault
woven crag
long umbra
long umbra
blazing vault
long umbra
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Well well well

blazing vault
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you just install it, why do you need a seperate app, that just installs desktop environment

long umbra
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Bro ignored everything after that.

blazing vault
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how does that even make sense

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and a ibus and the other kde shit switcher

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bro thats part of desktop environment

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not a fedora thing

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how do you think it is part of fedora, why will it be a fedora thing

long umbra
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Ami ar komu na

blazing vault
long umbra
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I'm done with this

blazing vault
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ki ar koiba

long umbra
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Accha nai e koilam lmao

blazing vault
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kisu ei nai

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jarvis summerize what he said

long umbra
blazing vault
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@long umbracareful, you stepped on a word mine

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auto timeout khaisila

long umbra
blazing vault
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duh

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why is bro asking this to home user

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bruh

long umbra
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Baki ordhek ki bollam ta to ignore korla

blazing vault
blazing vault
vagrant crag
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How is arch a waste of time

long umbra
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It breaks often

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From updates and stuff.

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You can't properly get development dependencies

vagrant crag
dusty ibex
woven crag
blazing vault
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In what world

blazing vault
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What is lil bro yelling, it's breaks it breaks, bro it doesn't break any more than fedora breaks

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Monkey ahh

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Why will steam deck use arch if it broke so much, why will arch have much larger usebase then fedora if it broke so much

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When cachyos wasn't able to launch blender, it was because cachyos repo compiled blender against a later version of gcc

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That was when cachyos was new

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Now they don't do such things to try and boost performance, no point, too error prone, requires testing

blazing vault
blazing vault
long umbra
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Bro is on a rampage to protect his ego.

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@blazing vault

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I guess I really should make a new Linux channel to filter out all Arch and window manager discussion and encourage newbies.

woven crag
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I hate fedora

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Suse is good

woven crag
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Ok nobara works but arch don't weird issue

fallen raptor
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I vape Arch btw

blazing vault
long umbra
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I wont elaborate much further into this

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Your array of anything good only consists of catchyos

blazing vault
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you already did, i already told you why your ellaboration isnt good point

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still you keep holding same opinion, you are just "my way cause i said so"

dusty ibex
blazing vault
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you dont wait

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i upgrade everyday

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multiple times a day

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been doing this since forver

long umbra
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My bro hates arch based distros too because of the microstutters and shit that goes on

blazing vault
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microclutters?

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what does that mean?

long umbra
blazing vault
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cachy kernel is the best there is, it remains responsive under 100% cpu load, which the mainline kernel has a lot of issues with

blazing vault
long umbra
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Nvidia drivers are pretty shait there

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Causing that black screen on Wayland login after a while

blazing vault
long umbra
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On a modern RTX 3060Ti

blazing vault
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they dont make different driver

blazing vault
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same as pop os

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same screen on boot

long umbra
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Abbar samne

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Then black screen and a death stare from my fsther

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Never happened to me in OpenSUSE or Fedora.

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Bedsides

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*besides

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I can't even have secure boot enabled without a bunch of hacks

blazing vault
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even if what you say is true, then what explains arch having more users?

long umbra
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But I agree that AUR works

blazing vault
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if you dont pick that from fedora installer, you;d have to "use a bunch of hacks"

long umbra
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Where I had to sign the hash of the catchyos kernel every time I updated the kernel

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Using refind

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Cos they don't have keys to sign their own kernels

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On build

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It's not that I'm defending fedora, it's just that arch based distros and custom distros can throw users and newbies off

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Because while custom kernels are cool and all

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Mainline kernel atleast has the reliability that works.

blazing vault
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not in my exp

long umbra
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And not to mention the secure boot issues

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I needed to jump between driver versions on the TTY to get some of them fixed

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And sleep causes the PC to power off

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What's your specs @blazing vault

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The PC I ran catchy on had a R5 5600G and a RTX 3060Ti

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And it was booted from a single M.2 128 GB SATA SSD

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And in OpenSUSE TBH, I had the best ever KDE experience

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On much older hardware.

blazing vault
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amd gpu

long umbra
blazing vault
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yes

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everywhere i tested

long umbra
# blazing vault yes

Then mesa was compiled with catchy optimizations then which also contains the AMD driver.

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I mean x86_64v3 patches

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Which explains why it worked

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So just because it works for you that doesn't mean that you have to be a brand ambassador for catchy or anything.

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I suggested PopOS and others because I knew it'll work for a newbie on a wide range of hardware.

blazing vault
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bro just because i dont have nvedia gpu, i cant test that, but it doesnt seem like very many people have had same issues as you, heck i recomend it to everyone, many nvedia users, they dont have issues

long umbra
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But custom drivers and kernels can break this is why I recommend EndeavorOS and use it by myself.

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I mean recommending EOS to Pixelo

blazing vault
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where did bro find custom driver

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😭

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custom kernel breaks nothing, nvedia driver works by dkms, right?

long umbra
blazing vault
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cachy is the best kernel there is, you should really test out how much more usable your pc stays even under heavy load, with this thing
it feels like nothing is runing

long umbra
long umbra
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I needed to switch driver versions to get brokenness to somewhat lower

blazing vault
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it is made to run in a wide selection of kernel, thus dkms, kernel api remains the same

long umbra
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In a fking tty session

blazing vault
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lets say cachyos has issues like that
if you get into cachy however, the cost of entry outweighs the fedora "just works" thing
it just doesnt work, you cant install anything you need, small mirrors

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cost of entry being hoping cachy installer works

long umbra
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Alright bro but it can break you know, it broke miserably for me and I tried a lot of different distros for weeks and months before coming to me conclusion.

long umbra
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Especially on Nvidia hardware

blazing vault
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just doesnt seem to be my exp, or any of my friends, you saying that feels like alien skullcrying~4
are we even using the same cachyos skullcrying~4

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dang nitro ended

blazing vault
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it doesnt exist

long umbra
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Or finishing MGSV on stock fedora.

blazing vault
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would you rather not have it, or have the option to have it

blazing vault
long umbra
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Which is the workflow that's more for windows users.

blazing vault
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expect they dont work

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try the steam deb/rpm

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install

long umbra
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You get a deb, you double click, it installed

long umbra
blazing vault
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steam wont launch

long umbra
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And then install steam

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And PopOS does have steam and stuff like obs and chrome in it's software center

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Not to mention the best ever Nvidia hardware support

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Especially on laptops as they know what they're doing as they also make Nvidia laptops with Linux too

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I mean system76

blazing vault
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hmm assuming cachy installation is buggy, pop is better choice

long umbra
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For instance, EOS's calemares installer wiped out my drive without installing anything at one time.

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Linux Mint is also excellent although I had some rather serious performance issues on my end and the cinnamon desktop got some serious nerfs to make it oversimplified.

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And as I had no issues with installing Fedora KDE and it worked well out of the box with a few tweaks, I suggested that to Pixelo as welll... he was coming from windows and needed an windows like experience

long umbra
vagrant crag
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I have a 3090 and vanilla arch runs great

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But

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Wait before upgrading

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Why do you need upgrade everyday

blazing vault
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i dont think thats even a thing now

woven crag
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nothing else

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ii have only logout to blackscreen issue and sometimes doesn't boot from sleep

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fyck you nvidia

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tried bazzite. fyck you rpm-ostree

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can;t installed tuxedo control center

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due to no write permision in os tree

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have to build my own os with tcc if i wannna use bazzite

pallid marsh
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Snap itself is open source not the backend

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Maybe you should also learn what open source is

woven crag
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discord is not open source.

blazing vault
woven crag
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The malware attacks 20 different extensions, including MetaMask, Coinbase Wallet, Trust Wallet, OKX Wallet, Bitget Wallet, Phantom, and more.

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so this is why my wallets getting bonked

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The malware attacks 20 different extensions, including MetaMask, Coinbase Wallet, Trust Wallet, OKX Wallet, Bitget Wallet, Phantom, and more.

blazing vault
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Cooked

dusty ibex
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luckily i dont care about crypto

long umbra
woven crag
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nevermind i switched to chromium

long umbra
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As both of them actually care atleast somewhat about privacy

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But brave is pretty sus

pallid marsh
fallen raptor
blazing vault
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i thought windows had zellij, even less reasons to use windows

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not even tmux

long umbra
blazing vault
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i got my hopes up when nushell was there

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but no zellij

long umbra
blazing vault
blazing vault
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Wtf, Linux doesnt make much sense now, freebsd is the true champ

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True kernel level first party isolation since 1999

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Jail

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Linuxmulator

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It can run Linux containers, that aren't vms

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True masterrace is coming 💀

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Where do I draw the line of inconvenience, freebsd is architecturely superior, ahh no good wm options, hyprland 0.22 or smth

long umbra
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But tbh, you're right that Linux is not that much POSIX compliant anymore

blazing vault
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architecturely inferiot it seems like

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you get higher thruput with freebsd compared to linux

long umbra
blazing vault
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I mean some libraries are not well implemented in freebsd, but for larger self written stuff like a webserver will almost certainly run 1-8% faster in freebsd

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Freebsd doesn't do deception to apps,bummer what's the point of 1st party os level isolation, if isolated app can tell it is isolated, not very stealthy, they need a sjail(stealthy jail) that doesn't make that difference visible

long umbra
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I mean FreeBSD is one of the FINAL true UNIX operating systems though

blazing vault
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unix isnt a specification god revealed, very outdated specification

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being 1:1 unix is more of a bad thing than a good thing

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unix isnt even open source to this day

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we only have unix like

long umbra
blazing vault
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no

long umbra
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Linux and FreeBSD killed it

blazing vault
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they left for unix like stuff

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why is freebsd the underdog, by the looks of design choices, it seems linux should rather be the underdog

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😭

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freebsd is known to be very resistent to getting stuck

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even under ddos, it remains responsive to admin commands

long umbra
blazing vault
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Forgive me father, for I have sinned 😭😭😭

I am about to install freebsd in mom's laptop, see how she deals with it 😭😭

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No gnome in iso is crazy

blazing vault
pallid marsh
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their name suggests their license

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And thus no company needs to contribute back

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No developer wants their contribution to help a company without getting paid

blazing vault
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there is no such thing as cuck lisense

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why do people hate software communism, and assign labels like cuck

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freebsd is still on top of all community/commercial forks

blazing vault
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Not as cuck as we think they are

fallen raptor
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Here I am, who still doesn't know what Grep stands for

pallid marsh
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so you can never make a bsd license like linux

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Companies get the maximum advantage

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They dont need to open source it

pallid marsh
long umbra
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But still the Foss community wins as FreeBSD running hardware can be hacked

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And as Linux and that is similar

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You can swap out the kernels and boot Linux

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That's what is going on the PS5/4 and Switch Hacking scene

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To get Linux running

pallid marsh
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I heard ps2 used to have linux cd

long umbra
pallid marsh
long umbra
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And that laid the foundation for fking supercomputers

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As the CELL was designed around that typa work

pallid marsh
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So ps3 was overpowered?

long umbra
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PS3 brought up the importance of GPU and Dedicated hardware compute in servers

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The Co Processors can do work of both CPUs and GPUs

blazing vault
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what they do

long umbra
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Even game devs started using them for trying to cope with the Shitty GPU of the PS3 by handling GPU calculations on the co processors or the SPUs

blazing vault
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they just dont want to be harsh to businesses

pallid marsh
blazing vault
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free for anybody to use and fork from without disclosing new changes

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just need to mention it is derived from freebsd

pallid marsh
pallid marsh
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Every company can use it for free

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And its a giant project

blazing vault
pallid marsh
turbid cobalt
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👀🍷

long umbra
long umbra
pallid marsh
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Endeavour uses arch repos

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While cachy has its own

turbid cobalt
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😯😯

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i see

blazing vault
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Even freebsd mirrors faster than fedora mirrors

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😭😭😭

blazing vault
woven crag
blazing vault
long umbra
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Idk what's that

fallen raptor
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what the hell is Daemon

long umbra
fallen raptor
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ahh

pallid marsh
blazing vault
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linux binaries work like native in freebsd, unrial, no

emulationlayer linux_binary

it is automatically done internally

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countnt figure out wayland in freebsd

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its all in x11

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there is hyprland binary in mirror, cant get it to work

long umbra
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Hence it probably doesn't work

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But my question is that

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Why macos ain't emulated like how Android is on Linux

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I mean mac's Darwin Kernel is based on BSD right

blazing vault
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But I can't get it working

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Posix compliance doesn't matter, what do you think posix compliance means 😭

long umbra
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Hence you can run things like bash scripts on both mac and linux

blazing vault
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They all run everywhere

long umbra
blazing vault
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I don't think fish needs to make many syscalls

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It's all about that

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Does hyprland need to make syscalls apart from reading config?

long umbra
blazing vault
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Don't think it does, likely used wayland api to communicate with socket like all the others

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trim acorn
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linux

vagrant crag
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bob

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everyone wants to know why bob

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but noone wants to know how is bob

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bob

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bobbbbb

blazing vault
fallen raptor
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How to get Xbox app on Linux

violet ice
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Just install windows

fallen raptor
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I got Wolfenstein on my Xbox acc

woven crag
long umbra
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@blazing vault you're likely going to die watching this

blazing vault
# long umbra https://youtube.com/shorts/Fm3iH1PPgMw?si=QRqlL8oDHgcOF51c

that doesnt really hold up as true in benchmarks so, you can say a thousand things, but benchmarks prove what you say,

first up, in no world is python faster than js, js can be signle threaded, still faster than python, that obvious giveaway it is his personal opinion rather than actual benchmarks, js can in senarios beat compiled languages, ahead of time predicting basically, if prediction wrong, then it redos it again

long umbra
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@blazing vault https://youtu.be/5M3RlpozAyU?si=YwiOABxidw3TC7Cj

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blazing vault
long umbra
# dusty ibex 8 e compiled language

Yeah it's weird to see C# being down there, it doesnt make sense as C# does have a lot of optimizations, including a C++ translator for C++ level performance

blazing vault
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new experiemental feature

long umbra
blazing vault
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now it will work like magic

blazing vault
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python kon duniyay js re beat kore, even node ei faster, bun is even faster

dusty ibex
vagrant crag
long umbra
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and people like other options too