#🐧┃Linux Discussion
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I hope it stays active and the recruitiof recruiting members keep ongoing
Do inspire others to switch to linux ya'll
i try
people are too much into proepriatory windows bs
and into all the other crap
like chrome
its just
people just dont want to do a complete 180 and change their os to linux
yeah and thats a really annoying thing
stupid companies dont support linux because of that
so no one switches
so no companies support
zihad is quite activr
2025 will surely be the year of linux desktop
i can tell bro changed the notification settings for this channel
well i do hope we get to 5%
not really I click the server and I'm already in this channel so
ignoring everything else
seems like all of us have linux addictions
*linux is more varied
*has some of the finest customization options
*has better performance
*is completely free and open source
*best for coding and other stuff
*lets u watch anime from terminal
show your rice and assert dominance
for your health
the terminal part
where the terminal lets u stream and download stuff
fr
wait I got smth for u guys
thats actually possible in binbows too
let me get the link
yeah
so ive heard
but how many users do that tho
windows just doesnt have posix and has half assed aliases for ls
we should follow the steps of chatro/student league and force linux
If I had some cash lying around, I wouldve made a small cyber cafe that has linux machines
it would be cool
what i want is to promote linux to the educational institutions
for example in bangladesh
PEOPLE OF BANGLADESH
WINDOWS HAS CORRUPTED YOUR MINDS AND HAS RESTRAINED YOUR INTELLIGENCE
BUT IT ENDS NOW. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PERFECT COUNTER MEASURE AGAINST THE CORRUPT CORPORATIONS. FROM TODAY, YOU SHALL LEARN THE TRUE VALUE OF 'LINUX'
our book teaches us propitiatory softwares with free trial that are only made for windows and mac
its a pretty great idea
google should just put normal linux in their chromebook at this point
Technology books are always "late" at everything, even if linux adoption here pops off, it'll take a while for books to update
its ironic isnt it?
They tell us no to do piracy
yet most of the windows os used around BD is not actually legal
(Tho its up for debate)
yeah but my books uodated this year with the new curriculum
and you know what they suggested for video editing?
camtasia
I think books never update the material, only the cover, page order and the occasional new info
exactly my point
the new curriculum revamped the entire book
w8 our school's have chromebooks?
since when?
everything was updated to add newer spywares
is this what camtasia does to keep a hold of their ever declining marketshare?
but make the cafe have arch linux with nothing but just the architecture
maybe have people pay extra for stuff like desktop environments and what not
w8 no
that aint how linux users roll
also
when did schools start having chromebooks?
well i guess they dont in bangladesh but around the world
yes
try this curl -L https://zihad.dev/help
bro i fking hate the site of government
i will kill all those assholes
who made it
everyone does 💀
all gov sites are trash
digital bangladesh 🗣️ 🔥 🔥
digital my ass
half of the dumbasses get a pc to play free fire
and "freelancing"
m8
Literally every non governmental institutes have better websites
dont even start m8
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
fr
avoided it
but moneyyyyyyyyyy :c
here is my a link to my ict book
its real btw not a rickroll
i narrowly avoided it
nope
i am on michaelshaft binbows so i didnt even try to use it
oh
yea don't
windows curl is aids
on powershell it's not even curl
😭
just aliased to some powershell commannd
powershell is really painful
it wants a command or something
they keep aliasing everything
what is it?
it's a text stream
can you show the error? 🤔
i dont have good internet
Maybe thats why its broken
i think you meant its an ascii art or something
oh, could be
its more blank
text stream containing ascii art yes
it doesnt mention linux or copyleft even once
sell coffee
bro is teaching MS Excel instead 💀
yeah well they will always torture us with that crap
yt tutorials way better than that shit
it also promotes google sites
i think wordpress is the only open source software they promote
I do the same, I like to keep everything clean so I mute them
Fr, it's giving me twice as much performance, way smoother animations than windows
I heard about other fetches, how good are they?
Fr
they are shit in terms of perfotmance just like neofetch
man you become alive when i wanna sleep
My schools have them
And Apple devices from a decade ago
And Binbows machines
Timezones dude
where do u live m8?
I would
For me to see
I got saved soo many times from Rickroll, yk how?
YT ads 💀
LMAO
Looks ugly too
New York
i narrowly avoided it
Wake up
Imma share a cringe memory of mine
the first Linux I've ever used was Kali, so I could flex that I'm a hacker
don't look at me like that
I was 9 that time
and I did it on a VirtualBox 👍
I am going to OS Hop again
to Manjaro
I don't want all the hassle of Arch, I just want an OS which I can call home and do all the things I need 😭
Manjaro might be bloated
but I don't want to have an empty OS
it's like a home without furniture
i will kill you indeed
an empty os is the solution
it allows you to store your furniture instead of adding more into a bloated home

I am new to linux, and I don't know anything about it, so it gives me references instead
which I can use to customize
It's beautiful
super clean
I chose the KDE ISO
btw you can use
Sudo update-grub on Arch?
Thn I used gnome, thn straight to window manager shenanigans
There's a package
sudo pacman then?
Searching
I see
Lol
yay not found, guess have to install it
I used pacman -Ss instead, and it found update-grub
thx for help ig
Did you hop os or still using endeavour?
peak distro eita. er beshi hoping hoilo time waste.
konta?
Ayy
arch based jekunu distro jemon endeavour
ami non arch based distro gula prefer kori
jemon fedora, elementary os
egula ektar o bangladeshi mirror nai
imho, use fedora with kde, or a debian distro with kde like kubuntu. Both of em will be less of a hassle than arch
opensuse tumbleweed has a very nice ver of kde, but im not sure if it'll work well with your hardware
I hopped
Damn
Which one now?
Manjaro
bangladeshi mirror?
bangladeshi mirror diye ki hobe?
it looks good
speed
please cancel yourself
m8
i literally downloaded it from bangladesh
the speed was normal
what
i meant package mirrors
arch has pacman
and it has a bangladeshi mirror
while i tried to use linux mint and fedora on a usb stick
they were really slow
not that my net is any helpful
but apt was really really slow for some reason despite using mirrors from india
You're an Arch user, I expected that response from you
bro manjaro is cancer
they failed to cook
they cant recover burnt food
Linux is Linux
android is linux
chrome os is linux
why dont you try out chrome os
that guy uses arch btw
fedora now uses dnf
yeah i used dnf
tho its slow
fedora was annoyingly slow too
agreed
yum is just a wrapper for dnf now
I already did
damn
Not as toxic as you
i actually promoted Linux mint from the start
its not a cancer like manjaro is
I would use Kubuntu then
come on now
isnt it an unwritten law that linux users can make fun of each other and no one would be offended?
Cinnamon desktop is not my type
Really?
i mean you can but you should disable snaps beforehand
idk
just saying is it or is it not
manjaro is bad because it breaks
they hold back packages and that gets into problem with the aur
why not use gnome?
BRO IS MORE TOXIC THAN ME LMAO
So?
Has the same UI design as the TrashOS
Ik
its polished fr
tf you know about gnome
from my own experience with manjaro, its ass
But gives me MacOS vibes
You too?😭
im sorry
well i actually like it
the customization is pretty good
thats sad because mac os is some highly transparent ugly ass ui
gnome feels like its good unlike mac os
the dev team has also done quite questionable decisions so I don't recommend manjaro to anyone
not to worry sir
ull be able to handle it
Like?
if you want arch, get proper arch
Asking nicely
at least they arent red hat
i believe i can just suggest you a video
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Arch is smoother than Ubuntu for some reason on my PC
People say to update the kernel but I don't know how to
i think this one sums it up well
hmm neither do i know how they do it on ubuntu
on lm you got edge iso and a good kernel manager
have you tried fedora? if it feels smoother than you might like tumbleweed
I did
couldnt just tell the terminal to search for all new updates for all programs
then it updates automatically?
The thing is
I have no knowledge about Linux
Whatever I'm doing rn is outta my ahh
then you gotta be careful before calling us toxic because we hate manjaro
It looks beautiful tho
me neither
its pretty fair to not recommend something that can break so easily
I'll watch it
i mean so many distros can look good
u could switch to elementary os
he hates mac doesnt he?
he is gonna hate it even more
it isnt that bad
i also hated the android esque app at first
but later i started to appreciate it
I'm starting to fear that my USB is going to die
Because of those all write cycles
nah it wont
thats not alot compared to what i did to kill my usb
i believe my usb was just a bad one
Cruzer blade is a good USB right?
no idea
If you think your usb still got some life in it, get kubuntu or tumbleweed
w8 usb's can die?
also disable snaps
and that
mine failed
when i was installing dependencies for waydroid on arch linux running hyprland
Like hard drives
Every USB drive is rated for an amount of data write cycles
Like a battery
It'll run out one day
or actually, just use plain debian like me. It won't look nice out of the box, but it's the only distro that "just works"
it takes a long time to do that unless your usb sucks
like years
w8 that also looks like macos doesnt it?
same with arch though
it doesnt have any defaults
if you get gnome than yeah, you can choose kde or something else
but debian is more "beginner friendly"
is it though?
I mean, I was able to install it on my first try so I guess yeah
i think its character user interface installation
and that was in 2021 or something
i think ill stick with fedora
(tho the recent update may have broken my sound card and brightnessbar)
not that much friendly especially when their good isos are hidden beneath
I mainly have all amd rigs so im good with the free only stuff
cant u use rpm fusion to like get to use them?
potato chips has an old intel pc iirc, so he doesnt need the nonfree stuff aswell
hmm yes in debain you can get rpm fusion maybe if you are crazy enough
why?
you can break it faster than arch then
you don't need rpm fusion in debain, apt is pretty good
mine hasnt broken.........yet
i have it in my fedora
am i in drugs guys?
i take it that fedora is more compatible with it?
btw fedora and debain are two different distros that arent a fork of any other ones
so they naturally are different
fedora uses rpm and dnf package manager while debain uses deb and dpkg with apt as its frontend
Yeah I choose proprietary drivers when booting into Manjaro
i think you are into drugs
intel and amd provide mostly open source drivers
i dont know in detail but nvidia is nasty compared to them
We should create a google document with distros we recommend, with some info on why we chose em
It seems like a lot of people are considering dualbooting or even maining linux, so I think it could be quite helpful
fr
yeah i can see 2 or 3 people actually trying linux in these 2 months in this forum
btw why does gnome put so many desktop session entries
Only reason to get Nvidia is RTX and DLLS
I'm an AMD fanboy btw
there are more reasons people get nvidia
they are really powerful
Pretty much the same as AMD
and softwares like davinci resolve work better on nvidia
Yeah Nvidia is for content creators
would u, good sir
Interest ur self in buying a 15 year old intel pentium g620 processor? as a collector's item?
Yeah I'm pretty sure they fixed all the driver issues
what
are you living under rock or in an alternative universe where intel died years ago?
Hopefully intel gets their shit sorted with the cpus, amd needs competition
so intel gpus arent even considered by anyone?
I think theyre decent, thats about it
whats up penguins?
just run and forget
total download size: 620.03 MiB while Net upgrade size: 1.69 MiB
Intel seems to be competiting against amd, so one day it could be that the GPU wars will be between Intel vs nvidia
its crazy how nvidia is rocking the gpu market and has no competition
Yeah 😢
I'm a potato
im still on intel
What's net upgrade?
so
the fact that they delete stuff as an upgrade is pretty funny
basically it is like more space taken on your system than it was before the update
I'm a box
basically linux removes old unused stuff as part of an update
i exist
im just me
Ya'll have existential crisis
I love gnome but the gnome project needs to get their feet out of their ass
kde keeps beating them in every aspect tbh
xfce lover
I still use lots of k apps, like krita, kate, kdenlive
ill go back to xfce when they support wayland
i like them both and hate xfce for its default ugly look
i know its regarded as the most stable and really customizable
💀
thats what I used to do, make xfce do what I liked about gnome
all the good things minus the bad
damn i got 600mb left on my Loonix partition
Pacman -Unistall Yes to all prompts and what??????
💀
no its same as pacman -Syu
nice wallpaper
except its purely glitch and nothing else
^ + there are many more people not recommending it (I don't recommend either)
I don't see why you'd switch from endeavour to manjaro 💀
switching to something like archcraft would make sense since you get the customized configs easily that way
fr exactly my piece of mind
whatever manjaro has in terms of looks can be easily done in other distros. I don't think they customize much. probably only colors and desktop layout
You could try cachyos
They have good repo, nice themes, great staffs and unlike manjaro they care and don't let their certificates to expire
I myself use cachyos
guys should i ask for help in hyprland discord?
How's garuda?
anyone know about this bug?
after one of the last updates
my sound card started slowly dying
Not bad
Yeah if it's related to that why not
Try cachy
i didnt need to ask i am so glad
it was the animations that were causing the problem
they only cause problems when i start hyprland
nesting hyprland inside hyprland has no effects
https://youtu.be/7RCKp33NZN8
Its just stock. then what can happen when modded just think
Uhh... sorry i thought the screen zoom would work with obs, but it didn't, sorry. watch the vid at FHD! Be minimal and clean!
Wallpaper shot by myself at AC.
#windows #windows11
And dont forget to function ur cursor 'hover over application to enable'
gaming suxx for ur linux
Eww windows user
Get out from here
No it doesn't
90% of steam games work
If u want valorant you can get out from here
Can't lutris/wine run valo?
aint gay that i'll play that
Gay ass kernel level anticheat
admit u cant afford so u dont wanna use licensed products mr poor
No skill to use linux?
ow 😢
literally copies everything of windows and says such....
Guifies everything
Are you high?
Guys is he high?
we have a breach?
We have virus?
We have a billion dollar company collecting more and more data without consent?
We have dumb ppls using our os?
I think not
yes
ill make more if this blows up
slander meme templates used:(edited and cut,splited and modified)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5xix-IVxGs and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNAIF70oLwo
Keep barking son
Go lick ur microcock
bruda doesnt even know how we made win11 not spy able
if i open it, the world will get darker
Brutha doesn’t have the skillsets to use cli
Kutta league ahh behaviour
Dumbass
Ughm what?
doesn't even Microsoft uses Linux?
Ur whole data is being mined on a Linux server bro
The internet is running on linux
then just reveal, ez
Ask microcock to reveal why do we care
13yo normies smh
8yo dumobozz barking be like

Sure kiddo
Keep wooing with that little brain of yours
gey-ish os
i did
Ur sending random memes but without any sort of verification?
Average microcock user
Which os?
lol
Ubuntu, kali use korle auto gay
linux ubantu on sandbox
XD
lmao
Tao abar sandbox XD
bro barking using sandbox
Can you believe this

Moron 🤣
@cerulean vinemf kichu korte naa pere misinfo choray. avg kutta be like
Bark bark
Woof woof
Grrr
🤣
Ubuntu sandbox user 🤣

Bro judging whole linux community by using ubuntu on a sandbox 

Take a perfect picture and crop it
@everyone
we should just...stop....fighting
over what is better
every os has its quirks and complications
but it doesnt make us better if we just diss others
so
theres no meaning in all this fighting
where its free, u r the product
Brilliant
what kind of arch hassle. give an example
Arch hassle kobe Theke
It's one of the easiest and most fun to use
Fair, tho I didn’t start first
iam loosing my mind over my sound m8
the mic for some reason aint working
i resolved a conflict regarding and upgrade
which fixed my speakers
but my mic is still not working
anyone know anything about it?
Driver issue
?
Endeavour e eto issue keno vai
Istg
I never had any issues with my cachy
nah who is that rando lad
fuk off creep
temple os is superior and has no disadvantages
m8
im already losing my mind
im actually on fedora 40
if you deny my statement then you are officially a cuck
btw i kinda wanna continue the fight
m8 just stop
im already losing my mind trying to fix the sound
you werent the only one suffering bozo
i know that m8
i had to figure out why that shit didnt render stuff correctly
did u find it tho?
now that i am feeling better i can force people to switch to temple os
yeah it was the animations
they work but they caused the weird glitch during startup for some reason
they made my life miserable
now i want them more
i feel ur pain
wanting a feature thats great but breaks ur pc
it doesnt exactly break it
it only causes the glitch when i start hyprcrap with animations enabled
so i just need to bind it to a key and enable/disable it
will make my life better
until bozos fix it
i havent riced my system properly yet
Is ArcoLinux good?
dont know m8
Mainly system breaking during an update and having to go back. "Bleeding edge" stuff is nice to have, but its not enough of a compelling reason to move away from the stability that comes with debian or even fedora
If I want to customzie every single thing I install in my machine, I might as well install gentoo
fully user fault. don't upgrade arch within 2 years same as debian then you've stability. every extras arch provides are optional for powerusers.
arch bleeding edge is a wrong term. packages are
stable: chrome, linux
bleeding edge: chrome-canary-git, linux-git
i can install chrome-canary in debian then call debian a bleeding edge distro?
A response saying "Just Don't Upgrade" for Stability, is akin to telling someone "Just Don't Breathe" because the Air Quality is Bad. It ignores the reason why regular updates are needed for security and functionality.
Moreover, what if another backdoor gets found like the liblzma one a couple of months ago? Upgrading will be necessary and waiting around to upgrade just for it to be "more stable" is absurd. Debian and others fast tracks security upgrades so I get the best of both worlds.
And you seemed to have misunderstood, Nightly builds aren't bleeding edge. But the fact that Arch ships out "stable" builds of packages more frequently than other distributions is. It's can be a benefit to many, but not me.
This is what Debian Testing and Fedora does better for my use case, packages are "screened" longer relative to Arch then shipped out. A bonus of that extra time is developers get more time to update and fix issues on their apps for example, so it don't get a seizure when one or more dependency gets updated/deleted/whatever.
Have you got it installed?
Cachyos time les goo
fully incorrect
regular updates are needed for security and functionality. waiting around to upgrade just for it to be "more stable" is absurd
debian/fedora both waits/pauses updates so you're not getting any latest security or functionality in them either. for example try upgrading latest gnome package in existing debian system.
backdoor gets found like the liblzma
packages are downgradable in arch
and backdoors can be hidden for multiple years affecting all distros that you consider stable.
arch has 3 types of packages from stable, nightly(bleeding edge which you call) to LTS (linux, linux-git, linux-lts)
its not that arch is bad
its just that the installation and usage of it is very complicated and time consuming
(if u dont know what u are doing)
The newmode gets added but Can't output it
How do I fix this?
So I'm getting this issue trying to fix the resolution
T^T
gnome updates =/= security updates
Security updates are always fast tracked on both Fedora and Debian
Arch's philosphy entails that even the stable ver is still at the bleeding edge of tech
Hence why I prefer Debian instead of dealing with arch's hassle again
calling arch an hassle doesnt make sense just because its bleeding edge
it can break with updates though
but its really easy to fix things
debain is definitely easier to maintain at the cost of updates but arch isnt all that bad
even if its really easy, its still a hassle
especially even debain isnt safe from having bad versions of software at the moment i think
maybe because im kinda old, tinkering aint fun as it used to be
fr, I had issues with obs on wayland cuz pipewire was too old
but arch is better than ubuntu based distros
moving to debain-testing fixed all of my issues but flatpaks are nice and fixes all these issues as well
there are too many of them and most suck
that I can kinda agree with
canonical can eat shit and die
debain based lm is a W
Nope
You don't do it like that
Ayy bro did you manage to fix resolution prob in arch?
theres no options for 1360x768
kde
I think KDE is Wayland
You can check in system options
There's a command too but I forgot because why remember it when you can do it the easy way
it's Wayland
T^T
I can't even understand shit in internet solutions
They are display managers if you're wondering, and KDE is a desktop environment.
A desktop environment is the way OS looks and display manager does display managing stuff
Me neither 😭
Are you using Grub?
There's another work around
Rip
SystemD?
you can switch from wayland to xorg and vice versa
since you're using an old pc, xorg should be work fine
how
desktop sessions?
yeah choose xorg or x11
did you get it?
yeah
sweet you are running xorg now
Thankssss 
Where's the Xorg button, I don't see anything
Congrats
Wayland might be more stable and everything but it lacks the maturity in my opinion
What distro is it btw
Did you switch over to xorg potatochips?
I'm using Xorg xD
clicking this here should bring the option
I'll try
you got a bad pc buddy
That's the thing
And Microsoft makes it worse
At least on Linux I don't get that annoying Microsoft 365 screen
Cachy
Thinking of trying it out

heeyyy
long time no see
How're you?/
Yes please
whats with all the breaches these days?
this is a linux forum
Why are windows guys showing up and dissing linux?
let em do their thing
🤡
he doesnt know u hate it
Guess what? We moved from windows so no thanks
I'm letting him know that he's a clown
m8 just let em do their thing
in the end it all boils down to user preference
True
But I want some human interaction
I'm bored
I miss having arguments and debates
go to #🍷┃lounge
I'll try
alive, wassup
going with the flow of life
what we need is supercharged flatpak, flatpak current spec is gay
security in linux may be deceptive, while there may not be very many active known exploits, there is no av either, sooooo you can just do what you wanna do in a straight forward way 😭
backdoor shell session with dotfiles
💀
rial man, you gotta upgrade, it is itch inside your brain, MUST UPGRADE
me personally, i upgrade 3 times a day
: )
#🍷┃lounge people are not chill at all
Never going there
Ever again
u wanted a debate
and lounge is the place where they do that
I wanted a proper debate
😔
Not somebody saying "Skill issue"
Wanted to socialize
But made me realize that this generation is not for socializing
It's doomed
brain rot basically
then again
in my early days i spent most of my time there
so.........
T-T
At least we didn't develop from it
i dont know about myself tho
but u, dear sir, actually avoided it
You gotta agree with me this time
||Gummy bear was the best brainrot song of around 2010s||
what if another backdoor gets found like the liblzma one a couple of months ago? Upgrading will be necessary
regular updates are needed for security and functionality
package updates =/= security updates
keep a fixed opinion.
security updates are always fast tracked
security fixes comes as bug fixes. a bug fix of gnome 47 always can't be backported to old gnome 43(debian 12) when there is lot of code differences. distro's security updates here doesn't include all bug fixes which is impossible without updating gnome.
arch's philosphy entails that even the stable version is still at the bleeding edge of tech
firefox, firefox-beta, firefox-dev, firefox-nightly, firefox-lts 5 packages in arch.
do you call everything here bleeding edge? this is completely upto package maintainers. stable version is marked by mozilla, not arch.
uhh
exactly why temple os is better
i keep getting ghosted and ignored
can i ping you so i can make the chat alive?
Ye sure
Ew
💀
hmm ok then goodbye creep
Don't cry bro, I'll be back
you are gone
you probably will be back when i goto sleep
I'll be back in 2 months
..tf you on? Reread everything I written, I've always said that security and stability updates are necessary.
Firstly, Drill into your head that nothing in the world is fully secure. Security Updates are not here to only fix bugs, they often include new shit or outright remove existing ones. If a vulnerability exists at a hardware level for example, patches are released as soon as possible to make the exploit harder to abuse. If there is a vulnerability that has been discovered and a patch ready, it'll be shipped by Fedora, Debian and Arch at roughly the same time.
Moreover, not having the latest version of gnome or whatever, can't hinder my ability to get security updates. There is a reason why a majority of servers in the world still run Debian and not Arch.
Besides if a new bug does get introduced and subsequently patched on a newer version of gnome like you mentioned. It won't make the current version of Debian with an older ver of gnome any less secure. The bug that causes the vulnerability just does not exist.
By the time the newer version of gnome ships to users, the fix will already be applied.
firefox, firefox-beta, firefox-dev, firefox-nightly, firefox-lts 5 packages in arch.
do you call everything here bleeding edge? this is completely upto package maintainers. stable version is marked by mozilla, not arch.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means by "bleeding edge".
Look up the fastfetch github and see what's the version number available on the Debian and Arch repos. Both of them are stable, but the "bleeding edge" aspect comes from the "newness" of the package. Even though both of them are "stable", the newer one might:
- have newer bugs that have remained hidden
- started using a newer ver of a dependency, whereas most other programs still use the older ver of said dependency.
- Be incompatible with other programs which use this as a dependency.
The newer bugs can become a vulnerability in the future, and the mismatched dependencies can cause a sleuth of programs to just break/not run/whatever or worse, break the entire system.
This is also why its called "bleeding edge", it can make you metaphorically "bleed". Fedora, SUSE and Ubuntu are often called "cutting edge" since while they have newer packages, they're often not as up to date as Arch. An edge sharp but not enough to cause bleeding.
average loonix forum moment
It's over for me
🤣
hmm i understand. start learning linux basics and word meanings from here https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/archlinux/comments/38xvxw/how_stable_is_the_bleeding_edge_maybe_switching/
any other silly questions you can ask to chatgpt.
everything you've written above is plain bullshit but also raised a fair question
started using a newer ver of a dependency, whereas most other programs still use the older ver of said dependency
arch package manager "pacman" smartly keeps copies of old dependency versions as needed. e.g.
No? It does not
Imagine if it did
There would be world peace, I believe that's just how it was packaged, it doesn't keep previous stuff, a package was packaged with 2 libc.so,credit is not on pacman, it is on package maintainer
Pacman keeps cache only
Too lazy to backread
Idk what y'all yapping about
Arch isn't beta thing, beta shit is in testing repository 💀, stable shit comes to mainline repositories, well whatever developers call stable that is
ah yes
Only nixos is capable of keeping multiple versions of stuff due to how it links and shit 💀
i'm using bottom package. pacman checks if lib name is listed and keeps. so credit goes to both i would say
There is no file conflicts, it is just sorted in /nix/store
Changes links to fs to where it is in that directory
What did pacman do 💀
It just places whatever was packaged to go where ever it was supposed to go in the fs
No sophistication there
Sadly can't prevent package fs conflicts, if a package has smth that conflicts with filesystem(due to whatever another package installation had placed in there) pacman is unable to dynamically link different fs spots for different packages
if two package relies on libc.so.6 then when you uninstall one, pacman would still keep libc.so.6 for the other package to work. if both are uninstalled then pacman should remove libc.so.6 freeing up space.
Well yea, but it can't have 2 different version of same dependency package for 2 different packages
it can if same dependency is published with different names(ids).
e.g. gtk4, gtk3 different versions of gtk works alongside.
and apps can load dependencies conditionally. for example chrome can run on any of gtk3 or gtk4
notice how they give different names for each version
now if a package relies on "python313" and other package on "python" then pacman will keep both
this acts as min version, max version. giving maintainers enough time to adapt to latest python package
guys please touch grass
Why tf blender crush when library versions mismatch 😭
No I will keep touching myself
why are you active and inactive at the same time?
damn bro hides from the lounge
Asking Reddit if Arch is bleeding edge is like asking a fruitarian if they can actually live on a diet of nothing but fruits. I can easily find a Reddit thread where most people agree that Arch is 'bleeding edge': https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/6862gr/why_is_arch_linux_so_bleeding_edge/
iirc all package managers suffers from dependency issues, often exacerbated on Arch. GTK versions(1, 2, 3, 4) like you mentioned are more akin to python versions(2 and 3), they're not meant to "completely" replace one another but kind work alongside, even though there is a "superior" one. People naturally switch over to the newer one for the benefits until very few people are still using the old one, soon after the old one gets axed.
Appimages shouldve been more popular than theyre now, they solve all these and much more.
Enough linux talk for me, I feel even more like a vegan
kr4zy
therefore unlike you i also provided unbiased gpt definitions earlier for validation. reread
from the reddit link you've provided
it's a common sense at this point
Bhai please don't torture yourself, don't use gemini
😭
Depends on defination
If it is having latest thing that devs call stable, then sure it is bleeding edge, else it isnt
Duh
If suffering and waiting for stable upto a year after they become stable is your thing, use non rolling release distro
Problem is alpha gigachad programmers test in production, soooo you win some you lose some
i'm using every ai. gemini, llama, gpt4
bleeding edge simply isn't a arch thing. applies to all softwares in general.
Hm
Same 😭
Just not Gemini, it talks too much without getting to the point in my exp
true
Llama 3.1 405b was disappointment...
Good open codegen models don't exist, Claude has spoiled me, chatgpt is far far off that level, probably llama 3.1 and chatgpt 4o produce similar results
Straight from the about page - https://archlinux.org/about/
"typically offers the latest stable versions of most software"
strives to stay bleeding edge (using aur, -git)
emphasis on "typically", it means not always
I get aur, but -git? what does it have to do bleeding edge?
not a comp sci student so my experience with git is limited to knowing that it helps manage versions and stuff
-git is suffix linux-git
hyprland-git
is this where people add commits and shit?
One thing that confuses me about arch, when downloading something from the AUR, wouldn't the built package downloaded be built for another system?
-git packages basically install off of the latest commit from their git source
aur packages are simply bash scripts that uses compilers (gcc, rustc, go) to generate binaries and puts into respective folders usually /usr/bin/. this binary should work on every system unless they have different cpu architecture or relies on other dynamic shared ".so" files. then .so files also need to be compiled beforehand, pacman handle this automatic.
so the latest you can find
in windows these "so" are known as "dll" files
Hmm
I haven't touched python or any languages since highschool. Thinking about creating a super simple barebones markdown text editor to learn and a grip on python and making apps and other stuff
If I get around in doing in that, I can get upload in AUR for feedback and stuff
Delisting packages there seems to be pretty simple as well
even if you can't upload to the AUR you can just upload the repo to github or something and then people can install it almost as easily as AUR packages
that too
Yes
It is not so much a upload, you just get to upload a script... It is like GitHub but for build scripts
cant host binaries in there
Is the UI great?
Isn't temple OS from like 1990s?
use unix
Rial
yes
you just cant comprehend a nice ui full of creativity
bsd is made by cucks, mac os sucks for me
I'm making my own OS
In scratch 💀
I can do it
But what do I call it 🤔
I need suggestions
ass
Lungi os
Hachu afa os
suggest me something reasonable
BD Os
Sounds good
Ikr
totally not a virus os
Definetly not sus
"Dakat nachai" os
Yoo
PERFECT
yo
hii
Should I do sudo rm -rf 😈
it will take away your home directory
I'm tired of CachyOS; screw it, going back to corpo bullshit.
Use Fedora
I'll just use a fedora hat.
Why?
What happened?
no you will self distruct
refuses to elaborate further
leaves the chat
Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
Dude, I just need to get my work done without having to tinker in terminal to get shit working.
Waste of time with this distro IMO.
What did you have to tinker?
Well most of my stuff hardcore rely on Linux as a platform
If yours doesn't and you don't have any attachment to platform in any way, it might be best to cut your lost time and jump ships to debloated windows 10
agreed
no way bro thought cachy os was usable for casual users
it is
wtf
it is the easiest
imagine having to use terminal to install shit, you get cachy package manager here
and it is shit, so install pamac in it, ez
ar ki ei ba ase
arch with gui package manager idk
no offence
but we linux users are insane enough to handle it
normal people arent
(my cousin literally told me to switch to windows and he uses linux himself)
people arent comfortable with new ui, that is all
there is nothing else to it
using everything for terminal?
bhai no terminal option ase
are you new?
lol?
actually its because they start with binbows
wait what
fedora has it
bro thinks we use discord from terminal 💀
idk whether cachy has it or not
(i just use terminal most of the time)
bro what, this isnt distro dependent
idk
id like to do that actually
i need to rice my system properly
it is independent of distros, all arch linux based distros can use it
and gnome-software uses flatpak, all distros can have it, what i showed, is pamac made by manjaro team
you forgot discover
if you tell me you use vscode, i will consume you
: )
use neovim
lol
i use vscode
neovim overrated for new users
ew
microsoft spyware
inferior option
L
spy er terom kisu nai
only one i know
use code oss or cscodium if you are so desperate for vscode
it doesnt send your code for cloud analysis
ase
vscode is proepriatory
it cant send code to cloud lol
it has telemetry
only diagnostic data
same shit i dont wanna send no data to michaelshaft
imma use the text editor
it was recorded long long ago, when i didnt exactly know a lotta vim motions
btw how is zeditor yall?
zed, lapce all shit
hardcore shit
unusable
idk i cant run zed because it requires vulkan
ngl its good
no mouse was involed in recording of that video
i think my wifi settings are shit
because kde connect works sometimes and doesnt
only in my laptop though
kde servers go down sometimes
kde connect requires servers?
oh connect, i was talking about kde discover
bro does your firewall allow kde connect to connect to phone?
it isnt your wifi's fault
#!/bin/bash
configure_ufw() {
echo "Configuring UFW firewall..."
sudo ufw allow 1716/udp
sudo ufw allow 1717:1750/udp
sudo ufw reload
}
configure_firewalld() {
echo "Configuring Firewalld firewall..."
sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --add-port=1716/udp --permanent
sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --add-port=1717-1750/udp --permanent
sudo firewall-cmd --reload
}
configure_iptables() {
echo "Configuring IPtables firewall..."
sudo iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 1716 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 1717:1750 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables/rules.v4
}
if command -v ufw > /dev/null; then
echo "UFW firewall detected."
configure_ufw
elif command -v firewall-cmd > /dev/null; then
echo "Firewalld firewall detected."
configure_firewalld
elif command -v iptables > /dev/null; then
echo "IPtables firewall detected."
configure_iptables
else
echo "No supported firewall detected or unsupported firewall type."
exit 1
fi
echo "Firewall configuration updated to allow KDE Connect traffic."
here run this
(it doesnt backdoor your pc)
how does it work sometimes and not other times if my firewall blocks it
i tried all firewall commands and stuff
hmm ok imma try it out
it shouldnt work at all
☠️
are you sure it "sometimes" works
i literally get notifications form my phone can pause media
no idea how its possible otherwise
#!/bin/bash
undo_ufw() {
sudo ufw delete allow 1716/udp
sudo ufw delete allow 1717:1750/udp
sudo ufw reload
}
undo_firewalld() {
sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --remove-port=1716/udp --permanent
sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --remove-port=1717-1750/udp --permanent
sudo firewall-cmd --reload
}
undo_iptables() {
sudo iptables -D INPUT -p udp --dport 1716 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -D INPUT -p udp --dport 1717:1750 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables/rules.v4
}
if command -v ufw > /dev/null; then
undo_ufw
elif command -v firewall-cmd > /dev/null; then
undo_firewalld
elif command -v iptables > /dev/null; then
undo_iptables
else
echo "No supported firewall detected or unsupported firewall type."
exit 1
fi
echo "Firewall configuration reverted."
here is a undo script
😭
i didnt even run the script yet
maybe it allows some ports?
kde connect uses a range of ports
hmm i enabled all the ports from the kde guide/help support thing
gsconnect is wild
i am connected to my own pc
gsconnect is now working seamlessly without me even doing anything
imma switch to hyprland
so now its working for no reason
I just did Sudo rm -rf and nothing happened
I thought my files and directories and everything was loaded on ram but everything seems to be working
Windows moment
Fr
You forgot the /*
Crap
did the home directory finally go "poof"?
Didn't try
I formatted my drive
I'm going to Hop yet again
After October
Because tests
from manjaro to?(u were using manjaro right?)
Maybe back to EndovourusOS or Kubuntu
Yeah Manjaro
Try on a container 😭
Here is a disposable environment
podman run -it --rm archlinux bash
Just install podman
Vm but both machines share same kernel
Thus just as fast as baremetal with very small overhead
Distrobox uses it to let you run apps from multiple distro
But mounts user home and does bunch's other stuff, idk
It isn't sandboxed, just mounting seperate home isn't enough I heard 💀, Incase you really need sandboxed environment, just use bare podman or docker
I see
What is bro gonna do with containers
You're right
use unix?
or templeOS?
Arch?
Why would he do that
idk
How is that helpful to a beginner
its not my idea
or his
But you responded to my question
for no reason
i speculated
thats all
But now you are a part of this convo and i will drag you every single time
Yeah so now you are responsible for everything
ok
(u arent doing anything tho)
btw which distro do u use?(i forgot)
I use a linux distro indeed
which one?
The one that a lot of people do use
that'd be?
A lightweight one
dont make me say it(arch?)
aight
(sorry for pinging tho)
But in reality everyone knows
When did that affect me
idk
idc
