theorycrafting

[summer flower]

I'm just arguing with getting to 4x

[frozen tide]

I wish i could get p2 gilb but seeing as how im aboutta hit hard pity for p0 i don't rly wanna spend 300 dollars for 2 more pots

[cinder oxide]

Fr

[tranquil burrow]

I see

[cinder oxide]

I’m a dolphin not a whale

[tranquil burrow]

Well either way it's fixed now, at least that one was actually misleading

[frozen tide]

Maybe in a rerun if i get lucky i can cop it

[tranquil burrow]

you will have many more units you'll want by then

[frozen tide]

Im gonna try to stay loyal to lr or atleast cryo

[tranquil burrow]

i like collecting p0r1 units anyways

[frozen tide]

Maybe there won't be that many that fits such criteria

:glueless:

[cinder oxide]

If I ever stop glazing Da Pan I’m alr dead

[frozen tide]

Gonna happen within 2 patches

[rare zodiac]

Hope they pump out more gear and interesting char fast, i want to cook some cursed shit

[summer flower]

Which set you can even use for AGI/INT correctly?

Cause it looks dire when to comes to this pairing of stats

[tranquil burrow]

M1 security

[frozen tide]

You don't have to worry about secondary attribute matching

[summer flower]

Have you looked at it?

[frozen tide]

If main attribute is first line

[summer flower]

They don't really have that pairing at all

[frozen tide]

Its very close to optimal

[tranquil burrow]

I could've sworn it was agi/int

What is it then?

[frozen tide]

Secondary attribute second line contributes very little

[summer flower]

You mean ignore INT and put slab as 4th?

[summer flower]

Secondary attribute third line is on set with both matching

[frozen tide]

Lets say your character is agility main attribute int secondary

[summer flower]

That's case

[frozen tide]

And a gear piece has agility first line will second line

[gritty olive]

0.5% contribution vs 0.2% contribution

for main and sub

[frozen tide]

Ur not missing out much from second line not matching

[tranquil burrow]

Idk man have you

[frozen tide]

Its very minimal increase from second line matching secondary attribute

[summer flower]

It's reversed

[tranquil burrow]

[summer flower]

It's INT/AGI

[tranquil burrow]

more sets next patch then

since 1.1 comes with new region

and we'll probably get those boxes we grab on map

[rare zodiac]

Frontier

[summer flower]

Okay, so what set for doing arts Burts then?

[rare zodiac]

Have Agi/Int

[frozen tide]

What im saying in short is if its agility first line its good enough as far as attribute lines go

[summer flower]

Single piece?

[frozen tide]

And sometimes the third line out weighs attribute match anyways

[summer flower]

Ohh wait right, CD on combo

I'm using that

But not sure it's that good

[tranquil burrow]

I spot 4

[summer flower]

Yea but that's single set matching

[tranquil burrow]

interesting set effect too

[summer flower]

While AGI/str have options

I just dunno if getting every X seconds shaved out of cooldown for single nature infliction is that impactful

[rare zodiac]

Is this for Flou subdps build?

I would prefer efficiency to CS ult CS ult alternately

[frozen tide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/e0SMOs2Y9Ck?si=5pmLkhxO4L1ogis_

Epic lr fluo gameplay

[wanton notch]

Guys, what tf Rhodagan did at the end?

I never seen him doing this

[versed oak]

Detonation unit or Stanza for support Perlica? Peeking at the numbers It'd say Detonation gives more DPS even if full team is of diff element

[drifting quest]

pots? team?

[summer flower]

Fluo main dps

[drifting quest]

perlica doesnt proc deto to begin with outside of electric

and stanza does not work on electric

idk why i asked for more info

[versed oak]

Wulfgard, Akekuri, Perlica, Gilberta, I wanna make the best of this comp

[drifting quest]

its going to be stanza still

even with thermite ake

oblivion maybe an angle

[neon zephyr]

Using 200 sp for detonation unit is def not worth it

[versed oak]

Ah, I see, then I'll keep stanza, I'm using edge of lighting on Ake though

[drifting quest]

makes stanza even better

[versed oak]

Seems better with heat and lightning than thermita

[atomic kraken]

what should i farm chat, i feel like i should farm resources for characters but all my characters that i used already built

[drifting quest]

thermite is a lot better

[neon zephyr]

Idk for wulfgard but on laev, I calced that even with stanza use, thermite is better than obj

[oak vigil]

Detonation unit is kinda semi-stuck currently to just Antal (either for electric, either for fire teams) and Xaihi

Since Antal is basically free combo and Xaihi is also that with arts burst to that, while others need to use SP/have way better weapon buffs to use (Perlica as an example)

[versed oak]

I see then I'll get Thermite thanks. I don't have Laev and I just like this team c:

[drifting quest]

obj is just

really mediocre

on akekuri

she caps at 2 stacks at best, usually 1

thermite gives more for the same uptime

[sleek nova]

whats breakpoint for gilberta ult charge%? has 200% and I wonder if it's too high

[neon zephyr]

Yeah, thermite usually gives 100% uptime after first combo, even on leav teams that have half the stagger of usual teams. But even if obj had 100% uptime, thermite’s buff is almost twice as good.

[oak vigil]

I wanted to make an objection, but then I re-checked their passive and thermite is literally an upgrade

I was upgrading OBJ all this time oh my loooooord, I don’t have mats for thermite now, ouuuuugh

[neon zephyr]

You have to calc gilberta ult regen yourself depending on your rotation. Arclight teams can get away with one gilberta combo and a lot of skills. Last rite need two gilberta combos.

[chilly bolt]

holy

[oak vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/battle-cats-breaking-bad

[cerulean basin]

couldnt hold myself back anymore

had to get her p2 🥹

[outer ermine]

whel

[cinder oxide]

All them whales in this chat

While I’m here debating if I should buy the monthly

[oak vigil]

The way I see it - if you wanna and it won’t put a dent into your pocket/savings, go for it

[lost void]

Will it affect your budget on other games you're already spending on?

[cinder oxide]

Other games? Brother I’m a college student

Money is a luxury

And so is food

[lost void]

Well some college student play multiple gacha/mobile games, that's why I'm asking.

[cinder oxide]

Then I’m a poor one

[lost void]

Then consider your budget/expenses otherwise better settle for f2p.

You can still enjoy the game with no or minimal spending anyways.

[gritty olive]

wheres the talkative guy earlier

[drifting quest]

the one that got banned

or the other

[fierce gyro]

Is ult gain set laev with sig at p0 a good option vs the usual hot work set?

[drifting quest]

depends on content
depends on preference
depends on team
depends on skill level
depends on investment

depends ™

[tight haven]

if it feels better to you then go for it

[forest ermine]

What is the best gear for laevatain? There are so many different build guide

[proud vector]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of SP. I try to play Last Rite. My SP bottlenecks my rotation. I try to play shatter phys. My SP bottlenecks my rotation. I want to play Laev, Phys. They both need SP. It grabs me by the throat. I run vanguards for it. I keep normal string uptime for it. Its not satisfied. I use Akekuri ult. "Combo skill cooldowns run during ultimate flash dumbass" it tells me. "You still don't have enough SP in time for next rotation". It grabs my resources "Imagine rotations, just 1 cycle nuke things". I can't afford to max the team, I don't have enough sanity. It grabs my inventory, there is no stamina refills left. "Guess this is the end". It grabs rock cancer (50 sp refund). It says "Crystalize!". There is no hint of sadness in its eyes. Nothing but pure malice. What a cruel world.

[drifting quest]

see 2 messages above

[cerulean basin]

I can buy you the monthly

[cinder oxide]

Nah it’s good I don’t take handouts

Gotta pull myself up

[sterile patrol]

[cinder oxide]

Anyone know why sometimes when I use Laev battle skills at max flames it doesn’t trigger the special effect?

Do I need a heat stack on the enemy or smth

[ancient drift]

Did I manage to hit Corrosion Level 4, or is it just the crit not showing glitch that’s messing with me?

My ult damage was the same as always — I’m starting to think this whole Corrosion Level 4 thing with this combo might be a myth.

[drifting quest]

are you cancelling it via a dodge or something

or not hitting an enemy with part 1

[cinder oxide]

Wait dodge cancels the skill

I thought it was a set and done

Lmao ok tks

[proud vector]

i think its a myth at this point

the visuals of the cyro stacks don't dissapear for half a second after last rite hits combo skill, but you can't seem to ever react with it

so it might just be a delay in the visual and the cyro is long gone

[ancient drift]

Yep, the word corrosion don’t appear either

And if I do a bit earlier will just consume the cyro and mess with the stacks

[digital scroll]

@twilit quail i remember you mentioning that p4 lifeng changes things in regards to his gearing and potentially the team setup cause he may or may not outdps endmin?
i have p4 lifeng+mb now but the sheet doesnt say anything on this so im not sure if thats still the case and how i should gear lifeng now.

[peak void]

does treatment efficiency bonus affect tacticals

[cinder oxide]

P4 lifeng gets Ult charge cd reduction so you can likely lose one of your Ult charge gear for a dmg gear

Calc which gear u can remove based of how long it takes u to get ult

[tight haven]

you can forgo any ult gear

because its -15%

idr the exact best gear for lifeng though

it might be swordmancer gloves, double lynx slab and unsure which chest

[drifting quest]

frontiers t3, swordmancer/mi, yinglung
should all work

couldnt say which is the absolute best of the 3

[unreal light]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Lift. I try to stack aspirant. My lift doesn’t stack. I try to play Sundering. My Lift does not stack. I want to lift up an enemy. My lift is not lifted. It grabs me by the throat. I run chens for it. It’s not satisfied. "You still have not applied lifted". It grabs my sanity "Read up my description in Chinese". I can't read the description, I don't know Chinese. It drives me insane, there is no single phys reaction dealt. "Guess this is the end". It knocks me down. It says "You are not knocked down!". There is no hint of localizing in its eyes. Nothing but pure malice. What a cruel world.

[ashen scroll]

Is it better go have fully maxed artificed+essence subdps build or fully maxed ult efficiency wulfgard on laeva team

[digital scroll]

he was already running on 3sm+bk chest so then just no change there? i was just interested if iana had any changes for this cuz i remember the original phys page had a p4 lif mention but theres nothign anymore

[digital scroll]

oooh and forgo set bonus?

[low oyster]

i m getting a lot of mixed answers in #help and they sent me here, what affect crush damage? atk, art intensity... does phys damage increase affect crush damage?

[proud vector]

Do you have the damage formula for all things?

[low oyster]

nope

[proud vector]

damn you #help

You coulda started with that

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage_calculation

[hasty grail]

phys damage does but if using endmin for example, skill damage doesn't even though it's endmin skill that does the crush

[proud vector]

TLDR crush is basically a normal attack but its skill multiplier is determined by level modifier * arts intensity * basecrushmod

[low oyster]

so the effect of grand vision doesn t even increase the crush damage of endmin skill?

[proud vector]

Oh it does

[hasty grail]

it does because that's phys damage

[proud vector]

Grand vision is entirely hilarious

[low oyster]

oh wait, i can t read, phys damage increase crush, skill damage doesn t

[proud vector]

Anyways go through the damage formula, most things scale crush damage

[cinder oxide]

GV also has arts intensity which scales crush to the moon

[low oyster]

good, i m running a max art build with grand vision on endmin, so i expect big crush damage

[proud vector]

ehhhh

You want good ATK and normal damage up stuff

Those scale crush damage too

Have you been introduced to the idea of saturation?

[low oyster]

i have no idea what that is, it s my first time here

[cinder oxide]

Ok but 200 arts intensity is funny

[proud vector]

Basically the simple version is you have 4 points

[sterile patrol]

grand vision my beloved

[proud vector]

You can do 2x2 or 1x3

[sterile patrol]

full arts is bait for damage

on crush

[proud vector]

But notice that 2x2 is 4 and 1x3 is 3

Ie multiplication is funny

And spreading stats out evenly multiplies better

Rather than hyperstacking one stat

[low oyster]

[proud vector]

The biggest crush comes from good ATK, good phys damage bonus, good intensity, good buffs from supports

That is saturation

[cinder oxide]

That said hyper stacking on supports is the way

250 more AI for Pog

Get that Breach to max efficiency

[proud vector]

so a build that is well rounded will outcrush an arts intensity hyper stack build

Maffs

[low oyster]

isn t the phys increase from grand vision enough with art gear? i didn t math anything

[tight haven]

yeah just pump atk

[proud vector]

it’s pretty good yeah, grand vision is solid, but don’t neglect agility (since that scales multiplicativly too)

[tight haven]

id go frontiers armor t3

[proud vector]

And set bonuses I guess

[low oyster]

well the aether set give agi strengh so i sit at +-5k atk, 200 art and +something phys damage from grand vision

[proud vector]

Dayum

Maybe that works

But maybe it do more if one piece have phys%

Test it yourself tbh

[sterile patrol]

aether set passive

[proud vector]

There is no damage variance in this game so shouldn’t be hard

[cinder oxide]

Aether set passive is fineeeee

[digital scroll]

oh dear. we goin all out then. alright. do we artifice at all? probably no need cuz on content ig and better save stuff for when we actually need it. endmin stays in the team for now too i suppose. and then just spam lifeng skill oh also mb worth etching then

[low oyster]

i know it looks bad but to me it does more on endmin than swordmancer

[drifting quest]

[tight haven]

if youre not minmaxing on lifeng then imo just stick to 3pc swordmancer

[cinder oxide]

Aethertech works better on Da Paan than Endmin

[tight haven]

the slab build without a set bonus is explicitly for full sending

[digital scroll]

i see no content to minmax on rn. i just like him a lot. so im happy to do the best for him 😄 too bad he cant be onfielded

[low oyster]

double crush team?

[cinder oxide]

Da Pan can purposely overflow a stack to proc free 16% boost

[proud vector]

Oh yeah is there an internal cooldown on Pog’s ultimate? Between harrassments

[cinder oxide]

No I don’t use Endmid

[tight haven]

fwiw i do on-field lifeng i just dont initiate fights with him

[digital scroll]

full sending meaning under certain conditions it is the best? i am happy to make him whatever the best is thats why im askin. my goal is to get the most out of him in general

[low oyster]

i also hesitated on endmin vs da pan but endmin is cuter so i made my choice

[cinder oxide]

His autos may be good but those skill cast times are atrocious

[tight haven]

it's usually the best after p4, theoretically

[sterile patrol]

:slabge:

[tight haven]

yeah i swap off of him

i like lifeng so like

idrc abt the dps loss lol

[cinder oxide]

Seriously he has the best SP gen best stagger rate but those skills

Those damn skills take years

[tight haven]

last rite is slightly better*

[cinder oxide]

Rite is fine cos her SP gen is the highest in the game per final strike

It refunds the most comparatively

[digital scroll]

well then no reason not to swap to slabs then, no real cost involved cuz i didnt artifice anything on him yet cause i knew i was gonna get to p4 eventually. whats the chest then? and whats the artificing prio on him?

[low oyster]

well thank you for helping me understand crush damage modifiers, timne to go kill the tiger again bbye

[tight haven]

id experiment with frontiers t3

for chest

and artifice all agi slots to max

then main att% on slabs

[digital scroll]

if the goal is to stack as much att% as possible then ye i see why. it's the only piece thats not on slab's slot that gives att%

[digital scroll]

oooh so you auto on him and swap for every skill? since hes technically our carry now you wont be using chen skill at all im assuming so do you have time to auto on him if hes 2xskilling every rot?. do you still run a crusher?

[tight haven]

pretty much lol

again i only really do this because i like lifeng

[tight haven]

the general rotation is still the same

my phys team isnt fully raised (endmin and chen are still lv60) so im playing it as you typically would with crushes

lifeng is fully raised so it might be worth thinking about how to make him a full-fledged main dps

[unreal light]

I just learned that there are characters with a 40 sec combo cooldown

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086673530314832/1434154209674264647/perlica.gif?width=138&height=138

[tight haven]

me when i see fluorite

[drifting quest]

hey hey

36s

give her some respect

[digital scroll]

i would pref pog onfield tbh cause he has the smoothest autos (chen wins but sundering ugly so go die) but lifeng autos are high value i can try to do swapping between him and pog during their respective skill anims. oh for sm gloves you went ult dmg or phys dmg glove?

[tight haven]

does phys dmg have agi main stat?

[unreal light]

True pog onfielders pull for never rest and get rapid ascent so no ugly sundering anywhere

[digital scroll]

sadly no it's str will so i'd go with ult glove

[tight haven]

ult dmg

[digital scroll]

ye okay

i'll go for it and see

[unreal light]

Endmin, Chen and Lifeng do

[digital scroll]

he meant the phys dmg% sm glove's main stat

[unreal light]

Ahh ty

[twilit quail]

it changes his gear cause he can take no ult gain sometimes

with p4

just have him press BS as often as you can get away with it

since you will also get talent 2 activations

[low oyster]

mmmh, i can do 150k crush damage on 4 stack vul endmin right now without susceptibilities or breach. just endmin originium debuff, what should be the bar for good enough?

[twilit quail]

3x sword and 1 ultgain also becomes way better

[tight haven]

1 billion atk

i hope we get a better main att% set for him with agi main

[unreal light]

Atleast 250

It’s not only about endmin, breach also helps a lot

[halcyon lark]

Yes she also protects Yvonne during ult allowing her to pew pew without dying. Downside: she kinda just sits there being menacing.

[heady pine]

It’s prob like 270k with breach

[summer flower]

Talent node

Each application is reducing that

By 1 sec with cooldown of 1 sec

[unreal light]

And you need 100 sp for an application

[low oyster]

it is the number expected with food buffs and breach vs a boss? i should be good then

[summer flower]

If you having full cooldown then you doing something badly

Or was it pot?

[heady pine]

Just breach buffs

[summer flower]

Doesn't matter it's 4*

[heady pine]

Food it goes higher but I didn’t check

[lost void]

Can somebody clarify forced arts rxn particularly with Perlica CS, does it mean she will always guarantee electrification regardless if there are no previous elemental infliction?

[summer flower]

Yes it doesn't break inflictions as well

So you can have electrification while keeping other inflictions

[lost void]

So it disregards and doesn't consume existing infliction?

[summer flower]

Doesn't consume

Just gives debuf of electricians

[lost void]

I see so Alesh forced rxn is special case then. It's on his skill description that it will consume whatever amount of stack is existing.

[summer flower]

It's eat, then force

[lost void]

How about WG's forced combustion in his ulti? Not much details are mentioned...

[summer flower]

I need probably wait for better gun for flurorite for my strategy

[summer flower]

I Assume same as perlica

Cause I don't think I'm consuming nature inflictions at all

[frosty bronze]

it doesnt consume, just force

[summer flower]

Unless it's counting one consumed when hitting 5th

[frosty bronze]

its just the wording

[lost void]

What's the seq all about, seems like a rare terminology?

[summer flower]

Seq?

[lost void]

It says dmg multiplier per SEQ

[gritty briar]

sequence?

per hit i assume

[summer flower]

Ohh sequence

[lost void]

seems like it

[summer flower]

By part of attack

Doesn't need to be only single hit in sequence

But in wulf case it's probably hit

[lost void]

I've only used Wulf on his side story quest and never really paid much attention. I guess it does DoT

[frosty bronze]

multiplier for each hit

[summer flower]

^That

[frosty bronze]

combustion does dot, but its fixed lv 1

[lost void]

wdym by lv 1? Sorry still haven't touched ny fire units except Ember who I use more as phys.

[gritty briar]

does combustion itself ever do meaningful damage on anything in any situation?

[frosty bronze]

reaction lv 1, as if you do a reaction with 1 infliction stack

i dont know if the wiki is 100% correct

[lost void]

probably on a highly mobile fight due to ticking damage or probably on certain phase that it as to go off field?

[gritty briar]

it feels weird that the reaction itself seems just useless and people only use it to get it consumed or something

i guess that's actually roughly on par with shatter damage

[summer flower]

Consumed or combo trigger etc

[lost void]

it depends since each will do different effect.
Solidification is just CC
Corrosion has -resist
combustion is dot (only?)
electrification = more arts dmg?

[summer flower]

Extra DMG on enemies with that

This kind of stuff

[gritty briar]

right i'm talking about combustion itself

because corrosion actually has a use even if no one in your team has any interactions with it

and electrification only needs someone to be dealing arts damage to be useful

combustion kinda dog on its own

[summer flower]

DMG overtime is more DMG anyway

It's not like it's not doing anything

[lost void]

We still don't have aether attack yet but I presume it will be to all elements..

[summer flower]

Solidification is what? Stop them moving or slow down if boss?

[frosty bronze]

yes

[gritty briar]

Does it even slow down bosses? i never paid attention

[lost void]

not attack move and use skill

But seems like current boss has no elemental resistance yet or immunity

[gritty briar]

solidification might be shit too 🥀

[summer flower]

Pretty sure those just slow down

Not completely stop

[summer flower]

Seemed like it?

[lost void]

I mean keeping your enemy still while taking the beating saves a lot of time specially if it's too agile and likes to move about the stage.

[lost void]

Even boss can be solidified but not sure this boss has no solidification animation.

https://youtu.be/hgxiTy6vmlQ?si=C5-TLaG4Qediv8lJ

[summer flower]

Talking about boss

Not average dude

[gritty briar]

doesn't stop enemies that actually matter

just fodder

[summer flower]

Fodder is enemy, boss is also enemy

[digital scroll]

Enion got me on the 2slab + sm glove + frontier chest scheme but 3sm+bone ult chest is what i have on him rn so ig that could be kept too if not going for the max att% funnel, tho i definitely see merit in keeping an ult chest for faster ults, especially for daily stuff

[summer flower]

Boss isn't fodder

[lost void]

Rhod solidification animation seems like he's juat stunned/groggy

[gritty briar]

idk he randomly has a stumbling animation when he gets hit so it's hard to tell if it's solidification doing that

[twilit quail]

look at this shit man

[midnight stirrup]

Oh my

[copper walrus]

neurons firing everywhere

[peak void]

something else is also firing

[copper walrus]

my Cannon

[kindred sorrel]

almost same

[tranquil burrow]

Bruh I just saw a solo Catcher Rhodagn trim

[kindred sorrel]

damn, guess i need to reinstall textools

[gritty briar]

wtf

[tranquil burrow]

3 level 90s in this economy!?

[gritty briar]

show

[kindred sorrel]

dont look at the yvonne ones though

[tranquil burrow]

Can probably happen because he has 0 gimmicks and his dmg isn't locked behind consuming reactions or whatever I guess and some insanity to invest this much into him. https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1r9uci7/catcher_solo_rhodagn_trimmed_151/

[kindred sorrel]

i probably should have just saved resources

[tranquil burrow]

Do you do 10x refreshes a day?

[kindred sorrel]

no

[tranquil burrow]

7x?

[kindred sorrel]

barely even do 2 refreshes some days

[tranquil burrow]

0 essence farm?

[tranquil burrow]

if you don't do stamina refresh where do you get the resources?

[kindred sorrel]

i have essences for forgeborn, thermite, clannibal, starry beach, delivery guaranteed, jet, and detonation unit

[ancient drift]

F2P account definitely

[kindred sorrel]

[tranquil burrow]

Oh, I have 3 maxed essences. That might explain the resource disparity cuz I do 2x daily refreshes as well

[kindred sorrel]

need to farm one for stanza, oblivion, and probably use some basic one for obj velocitous

[kindred sorrel]

i dont bother with first two lines for support weapons tbh

[drifting quest]

1/3 works for velo
2/3 if you want to cope some pistols agi ultbot scaler will come

[tranquil burrow]

I just max out limited/banner units only

[kindred sorrel]

only one that matters is 3rd line

[tranquil burrow]

So maxed out Laev, Gilberta, and pre-farmed maxed essence for Yvonne

I'm ignoring the rest

in terms of essences

I do have their essences since I've farmed so many, but I haven't bothered upgrading

Same with artificing

[neat snow]

My main team is all 9 9 9 essence because I do refreshes

[tranquil burrow]

how many though

[neat snow]

Depends what I feel like. 4 minimum but sometimes I'm bored and do all 10

But always at least 4 it's only 2 dollars a day

[tranquil burrow]

All 10

[neat snow]

10 is 28 org

[potent hornet]

man i thought that by now wuling depot jobs would be a little less rare

[tranquil burrow]

I thought 10 refreshes was like $70 or something? Idk

[kindred sorrel]

basically done with 2 laeva builds, working on hot kits now

[ancient drift]

We gonna have an Sanity Discount event, best to save some sanity, at least for the humble f2p people, it should be worth it

[neat snow]

No it's like 14 dollars

[tranquil burrow]

Doesn't it scale 1/1/2/2/4/4/8/8 and so on

[potent hornet]

caps at 4

[tranquil burrow]

Wait really?

[potent hornet]

yea

[tranquil burrow]

What the heck

[neat snow]

Right caps at 4

[tranquil burrow]

I was thinking it doubled

[shut cobalt]

whos the most likely char to get replaced in leav ake wulf ardelia team?
ake?

[potent hornet]

you can only do it 9 times

[kindred sorrel]

no point going beyond the first two for now tbh

[tranquil burrow]

So I thought 10 refreshes must be the giga-est of giga leviathans

[neat snow]

The first 4 for 2 dollars is fine

[tranquil burrow]

Like Pot 5 paled in my mind before this

[kindred sorrel]

probably akekuri if a better vanguard comes along

[heady pine]

Ake or wulf

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[kindred sorrel]

theres always the chance they basically combine akekuri sp with wulfgard heat generation for a 6* heat vanguard

[tranquil burrow]

I just do 2 since it's cheap enough and I figured I can't possibly obtain more than 1 new character every 3 weeks even at the fastest pace so that oughta be enough long term

[neat snow]

I just want to hit 60 quickly cause I always obsess over level caps

I'm almost 58

[potent hornet]

level cap is 90

[neat snow]

For authority

[kindred sorrel]

im sure endfield will end up being like og arknights where after 6 years i have like, 20 mil LMD and infinite xp, with all operators at E2 level 90

[tranquil burrow]

I just want to max out every banner char I get and I'm happy

[kindred sorrel]

so i dont really bother even doing 2x refreshes a day unless i really feel like it

[potent hornet]

and recrisis/umbral

[tranquil burrow]

Artificing is the only pain but so far I'm kind of keeping up

Started 3rd set today

[neat snow]

But yeah I just got my final 9 9 9 for main team today so I don't have to use refreshes if I don't want anymore

[tranquil burrow]

Should be able to start 4th set by the time 1.1 rolls around

[neat snow]

But I'll probably stay at 2 dollars a day

[shut cobalt]

tbf, on most gachas u have infinite materials after a while of playing

[tranquil burrow]

I just calc'd 2 refreshes as 9 pulls a month which is fine enough to me

[kindred sorrel]

ye which is why im not too bothered now that i have my main team pretty much maxed out

[ancient drift]

Whats the cheapest way to buy origeometry, on ios is kinda expensive..

[neat snow]

I'm fine spending 1500 per banner anyway

It's 600 pulls

[kindred sorrel]

japanese vpn with the official topup website

[tranquil burrow]

What's the rate for highest tier pack there?

Like the $70 one I mean, not the $100 one

[kindred sorrel]

idk, 16500 yen for the 400 originite one?

[tranquil burrow]

I can translate that, works for me

[neat snow]

Do you save a lot. Is it worth the bother

[tranquil burrow]

eh, that comes out to $106

[tranquil burrow]

which is more expensive than just buying on normal rates

[kindred sorrel]

you save a lot if youre european lmao

[neat snow]

Ah

[kindred sorrel]

if youre american, i assume you dont pay sales tax anyway

so it doesnt matter

[neat snow]

Yeah when I looked at it it seemed to scale with usd pretty evenly

[kindred sorrel]

if youre in say, the UK, youre paying an extra 20% on it

[tranquil burrow]

You can look at 3rd party retailers but that's a bit of a grey area I guess

[neat snow]

Unfortunately I have to pay tax on everything cause I live in NYC lol

[tranquil burrow]

Gacha CCs get sponsered by both them and the game companies so I guess it's not that bad

[kindred sorrel]

i dont trust 3rd party retailers so i'd rather just pay for my £5 a month VPN anyway (because UK OSA )

[tranquil burrow]

The $70 pack is $55 on those sites doe

[kindred sorrel]

and get a decent discount compared to my usual prices

[neon zephyr]

It’s not like genshin. Third party needs your login

[tranquil burrow]

Oh well

[midnight stirrup]

Refreshing is silly

[tranquil burrow]

Just like P5ing is

[kindred sorrel]

the biggest in game pack i think is 10,000 yen

[drifting quest]

vpns dont work on some devices for akef

[midnight stirrup]

Oop hit a nerve

[tranquil burrow]

That's the $70 one which translates to $64 here

[drifting quest]

[midnight stirrup]

P5ing and refreshing is quite different

[kindred sorrel]

$6 is $6

[tranquil burrow]

Use any random personal PC, you only need to log in to a website

[midnight stirrup]

Youre spending money for something that comes back regardless to gamble away at odds of an increase

[kindred sorrel]

works for pc and any browsers on pc for me

[drifting quest]

works on my pc, never tried browser

doesnt work on mobile

[kindred sorrel]

havent tested it on any of my apple devices

[midnight stirrup]

P5 is unique upgrades and profile art. Not quite the same

[drifting quest]

its per vpn too

[kindred sorrel]

and i dont have any android devices

[drifting quest]

some are like blocked afaik

[neat snow]

Refresh is just getting things faster is all

[kindred sorrel]

mullvad and proton both work

it also could just be site cookies or something

[drifting quest]

yeah i have mullvad

[tranquil burrow]

I use Proton VPN personally, cuz I use their entire suite of products

It's quite nice

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah which is silly

Esp with no endgame content

[drifting quest]

i need to buy op to refresh

[neat snow]

I don't disagree

[drifting quest]

to build yvonne

for testing

[neat snow]

But I like getting things faster

[tranquil burrow]

Are you turning around

Did her menu animation get to you

[drifting quest]

no i still think she's terrible

[midnight stirrup]

Thats fair

[kindred sorrel]

i think im actually skipping yvonne tbh

i got her off banner on laeva banner

[drifting quest]

but im not one to let bias get in the way of fair testing

[midnight stirrup]

I might get her just bc I got the free 10 pull

But uh

Skipping otherwise

[tranquil burrow]

The only reason I'm pulling Yvonne is because I pulled Gilberta and I've got sunk cost fallacy at play here

[drifting quest]

gilb going in (nearly) every other comp

[tranquil burrow]

Nah

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[kindred sorrel]

im at p4 gilberta but i think it'll be enough and she's probably going to fit other comps

[tranquil burrow]

I don't care about forcing her in

I don't have an electric team

[midnight stirrup]

Its not even forcing

[kindred sorrel]

so i dont really care for yvonne team

[midnight stirrup]

If anything ur forcing urself to pull Yvonne

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah

[midnight stirrup]

To get the 'ideal' Gilb comp

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah

[midnight stirrup]

When nature dps is next patch

Lmao

[tranquil burrow]

Who knows

I will be pulling Rossi & Tangtang regardless

[twilit quail]

gilb isnt support for any element it's support for certain play patterns

[midnight stirrup]

So why gimp urself with Yvonne

[kindred sorrel]

hope she works with zhuang fangyi

[midnight stirrup]

Unless u like her

[tranquil burrow]

Arts Burst DPS yes, surely Rossi is exactly that

[twilit quail]

if you are burst, good

[drifting quest]

gilb is a support for any dps with specific short burst windows

[tranquil burrow]

and applies vuln stacks while at it

[kindred sorrel]

skipping yvonne for zhuang fangyi, but if tangtang is a strong endmin/da pan replacement for phys teams, i might go for her too

[twilit quail]

if you dont actively use affliction stacks

even better

[sinful peak]

Rossi is nature?

[tranquil burrow]

Maybe

[twilit quail]

I love kuro games

purple fire

[kindred sorrel]

according to possibly fake leaks, maybe

[twilit quail]

nature

[tranquil burrow]

Heat vanguard agenda found dead in a ditch so far

[twilit quail]

lightning? you guessed it

[midnight stirrup]

Rossi is physical or heat

[twilit quail]

also nature

[midnight stirrup]

Miss me with that nature

[drifting quest]

i love how one person will post a 'leak' and then all critical thinking skills vanish

[tranquil burrow]

I pray you're right, but Tangtang screams phys

So hopefully heat vanguard

[kindred sorrel]

its very likely all fake leaks tbh

[tranquil burrow]

It's a 50/50. Either they're right or they're wrong.

[kindred sorrel]

tangtang being a pistol user is probably the only thing that is almost 100% true

[drifting quest]

never forget tangtang has been 'leaked' to be:
fire
physical
ice
nature
electric

[tranquil burrow]

We don't have any basis to assume either far as I'm aware.

[wanton notch]

I actually close to it as well

[midnight stirrup]

Oh im not leaking

[tranquil burrow]

Tangtang uses pistols and her design just screams phys tho

[midnight stirrup]

Its just very unlikely shes nature

I dont buy it

[tranquil burrow]

Rossi I was hoping would be heat vanguard so I still hope the current "guess" is wrong

[kindred sorrel]

i hope not

i dont want to pull for rossi

[tranquil burrow]

Man I don't need more strikers

[midnight stirrup]

Heat is very unlikely for the solo reason we just got Surtr

[tranquil burrow]

I need more premium units for the teams I have

[midnight stirrup]

Only reason I see it happening is Wulf synergy but no dev cared about that before

[tranquil burrow]

how would a vanguard conflict

it'll only help

[midnight stirrup]

Only if shes a subdps

[kindred sorrel]

if rossi was a support for laeva teams all the rossi 😭 fans would get pissed off probably

[midnight stirrup]

True

[kindred sorrel]

and i personally dont want to pull for her for my laeva team

[midnight stirrup]

I personally think shes physical

[kindred sorrel]

because i intend on skipping her

[midnight stirrup]

Physical lacks a proper dps, electric does and nature does

Why add a 2nd fire dps

[tranquil burrow]

Literally no one is guessing she's heat striker

[midnight stirrup]

Speak for urself

[tranquil burrow]

It was heat vanguard and now nature dps

[spare sapphire]

guys i have a question and theorie regarding Zhuang fangyi and what if the same happened to the dragon god yan like sui split himself into 12 shards ?

[midnight stirrup]

Seen it plenty here

[kindred sorrel]

it means i can pull for my wife shu in the future

[spare sapphire]

like 12 fragments of Yan in cleansed form and Zhuang Fangyi is the a similar case like Shu ? i mean if Sui managed to split himself why shouldnt Yan do the same thou ?

[daring dove]

@drifting quest He’s pulling for you.

[coarse ocean]

is sundered prince or exemplar better on da pan? (when controlled)
sundered has the crit and more str, while exemplar has the phys% and more atk%
but already a lot of phys% from aethertech so idk

[drifting quest]

Wrong sibling

Shuo is Chongyue

[river scroll]

why I never see Snowshine being used on LR team yet? she seems to be very useful for cryo infliction, and you can do your AA uninterrupted (no dodge), as such reach finisher faster. her battle skill give sp back too. you can literally do LR Combo skill spam with her.

only realized this because I'm raising my Dijang worker for nexus

by spamming Alluviums

it's seems consistent and the sp back actually alot. i think you can fit Xaihi too.

LR, Snowshine, Xaihi, filler

Snowshine can inflict like 2 cryo infliction in short amount of time btw

[drifting quest]

From tc perspective?
Sp inefficient
Gameplay inefficient
No buffs

[midnight stirrup]

Its also just completely unnecessary to gimp yourself so much for faster cryo infliction, when properly learning to play LR with Xaihi stacks fast enough

That team hits like a noodle

Also why Ember

[river scroll]

i mean... we also have Laevatain ult spam build.

i think this can be equal to that since LR Combo does hurt alot, also the CD is low

[river scroll]

the SP seems plenty when i tried it

[midnight stirrup]

Try the difference yourself

Youll see how big the damage falloff is

And last time I checked you didnt run ult Laev unless fullfilling specific conditions

[river scroll]

I see...

[drifting quest]

Ultspam laev is preference content team etc

[river scroll]

ok, but I'm too poor now... maybe next patch

[drifting quest]

As to value

[midnight stirrup]

Poor for what

Building LR team?

Ur chars are lvl 48

[river scroll]

no resource

[midnight stirrup]

[river scroll]

yes

[midnight stirrup]

Thats nothing

[river scroll]

no wait

[midnight stirrup]

You have plenty of resources

[river scroll]

it's 41 actually

[midnight stirrup]

Use LR Xaihi Perlica Ardelia

[river scroll]

i have no Sanity

[river scroll]

yeah... that is my main team

[midnight stirrup]

Good, then dont bother with Snowshine, Ember Fluorite

[river scroll]

oh... wait

[river scroll]

that is not my main team. I'm grinding their level on alluviums

for dijang

the mood boost on nexus

[midnight stirrup]

I mean you can still use them while theyre on Dijang

Oh wait

[river scroll]

yeah but you need to level them to unlock the dijang mood buff skill

[midnight stirrup]

I cant read

Anyway

Use the team I mentioned as ur main LR thing

Can swap Ardelia for Gilberta depending

Akekuri works also

[potent hornet]

alrighty, no need for engraved tickets for me anymore

got perfects for all the current usable 6* weapons

now i just need to pull for the actual weapons i don't have yet

[vague rampart]

corrosion description said "gradually losing res against all elements"

is there any graph showing how much they lost per sec?

[river scroll]

actually i also want to know does the effect instantly lost if the corrosion get consumed?

[ancient drift]

Whats the benefit of using Perlica instead of going with Ardelia+Gilb on LR team, the dmg u end up losing on LR’s CS is totally Compensated on the DMG u gain on her Ult, or am I missing something?

From my tests Ardelia+Gilb always gave me the best dmg output overall… Maybe depends on which armor u are using? If its combo skill % dmg for LR P3+ or Ult dmg% for LR P0-P2 idk…

[potent hornet]

i swear i saw something somewhere that said the numbers for that

i can't find it tho

my brain says up to 12% at max

for just straight corrosion

[vague rampart]

hmm, 4 stacks?

quite a lot

[potent hornet]

yea

don't quote me on that tho

[vague rampart]

dw at least i got the base value

thanks

[ancient drift]

So for LR P0-P2 - Xaihi- Gilb - Ardelia would be the best team, and the Ult Dmg % Armor.

For LR P3+ - Xaihi - Perlica - Ardelia, with the Combo skill % dmg armor. Would be the best teams

[potent hornet]

12-24% 1-4stacks

yea ok its on the wiki atm

thought i had it saved somewhere

[oak vigil]

While having better damage output, if you aren’t doing it in one cycle, Ardelia’s combo falls off in the second cycle due to anti-synergy because of Gilberta’s lift applying vulnerability stack

With Perlica/Gilberta you can just go straightaway without waiting from the second cycle

[potent hornet]

its one of the reasons i want a dot team

[vague rampart]

oh it is?? thanks

[ancient drift]

Yep, I’m taking one cycle in consideration only… But even lets say on Ballista & Axe, where I have to do more than one cycle, my Xaihi - Gilb - Ardelia is still better… My SoM on perlica is P3 though, maybe when I get P5 will be better idk

[oak vigil]

Yeah if just one cycle - fair

👍

[gritty briar]

Hey does anyone happen to know if the attack that triggers a stagger also benefits from the stagger damage increase? I assumed yes but just making sure

[ancient drift]

Having that gilb ult on last phase of Ballista & Axe makes all the difference

Since I will have to ult without any stacks

My time is 1:35sec on them

[oak vigil]

As far as I know, extra damage from full stagger bonus is only applied after, but not applied to the attack which staggered (unless it’s a multi hit move like Arclight’s EBS/Combo. Like if you stagger from first hit, other 2 hits will get stagger damage bonus)

[gritty briar]

aw

[ancient drift]

Who can benefit from corrosion lvl 4 and stack fast enough to use that buff? Laev maybe?

[drifting quest]

once you have a level 4 corrosion going you can use level 1 corrosions to refresh the countdown but keep the level 4 effect

[ancient drift]

Is there a way to effectively use that in our favor, on LR or Laev team?

[gritty briar]

wait
can i do that with any forced reactions?

Like trigger level 4 electrification once and then just sustain it with perlica combo and never need to stack electrification manually again

[rare zodiac]

can but 19cd combo and 5s electrification? i doubt that feasible

[gritty briar]

oh

[drifting quest]

only for corrosion afaik

[gritty briar]

does it not just use the 30 second duration from the 4 stack electrification?

it just uses perlica's duration?

okay nvm that sucks

[oak vigil]

Yeah you can do it with every reaction, exception being solidification (and combustion due to literally having no use for up-timing it anyway lol)

[river scroll]

does corrosion effect last when the debuff mark gone? or no? like when it got consumed

[rare zodiac]

gone

[river scroll]

ok thx

[oak vigil]

Perlica’s electrification duration from her combo improves massively from P1 if I remember correctly

By like 75%? I’ll go re-read the passive from copies, one second

[rare zodiac]

75%

[sterile patrol]

[gritty briar]

for some reason i was thinking it would just reset the duration to the max duration of 4stack reaction but i guess only extending by her skill's effect makes more sense

[oak vigil]

*by 75%

[oak vigil]

I KEEP FORGETTING MY NUMBERS OKAY AAAAAAA

[drifting quest]

[oak vigil]

But yeah, going back to the topic, is there really a reason to up-time arts reactions? I feel like by just doing cycles per usual you can refresh it without micro-managing between them

I mean it is doable, but didn’t see anyone doing that

[drifting quest]

other than 4 stack corrosion which you maintain most teams do not care

solidification exists to be consumed or expire
combustion is just sneak in some damage, proc combos
ardelia forced corrosion is to be consumed via skill or marginal damage
perlica forced electrification is to amp damage for a bit

i suppose breach as a reaction has its uptime maintained

[midnight stirrup]

Probably not tbh

I compared buffing ults during casting LR combo and before casting combo. Before casting combo made the damage increase.

So I assume all multi-hits that hit a staggered enemy that got staggered by the first hit of the multi-hit, all count as non staggered damage

[oak vigil]

Huh, good to know

[summer flower]

Hmm

[summer flower]

That should be tested

Because first case is stats buffering

And it's operator side

While stagger is on enemy side

[midnight stirrup]

Feel free to test

Im not bothering with multihit specifics

[summer flower]

And I dunno if it's good target

50/50

Either it is or it's not like that

[midnight stirrup]

Again

Feel free to test and disprove it

Feelscrafting doesnt get us far

[wanton notch]

Why this stupid team works so well together? (I think with food buffs I can get like 1 minute with it lmao, especially if I actually crit on my Finishers)

[drifting quest]

why does a wheelchair comp do wheelchair comp things?

[unreal light]

Why corrosion over electrification?

[drifting quest]

better effect
l1 can reset duration of l4
better units to do it with

[oak vigil]

I meaaan this isn’t stupid, ironically a good way to buff Catcher main-onfield

[unreal light]

I’m unsure if the effect is better or worse

It starts with 7.2% debuff

[wanton notch]

Problem that I thought it isnt worth it compared of just using Ardelia+Chen instead of Shatter. But for some reason, Ardelia+Chen is slower on those clears D:

[midnight stirrup]

We need a mode that instantly gives ults upon entering. I wanna test out if theres a frame window where u can consume 4 cryo and apply corrosion

[unreal light]

While electrification is always at the corrosion maximum

[oak vigil]

Stuck grinding slug meat for eternity for pots of ult gain

[drifting quest]

they're identical just at different brackets

technically elec lasts longer but

you're maintaining uptime

[midnight stirrup]

Yea im not bothering with food lmao

Too much effort

[unreal light]

They’re not identical

Corrosion starts with small debuff

[drifting quest]

l4 should be 24% base for both

[unreal light]

And becomes as strong as electrification only near its end

[drifting quest]

unless your argument is purely the few seconds elec is larger for

which is silly

[unreal light]

No

It’s literally what I am saying

Corrosion gradually increases over time

[drifting quest]

and once it is at max

it remains at max

[unreal light]

To the level of electro

[drifting quest]

future corrosions do not reset it to a lower amount

[unreal light]

Ahh smart

[drifting quest]

it remains at the 24% base

[oak vigil]

Respectfully I am stealing that team comp when I am going to start building a second team, looks fun

[unreal light]

But that means I have to prepare 4 non-nature stacks each 30 secs

Right?

[drifting quest]

no

a level 1 corrosion will not overwrite a level 4 corrosion

when you apply the level 1 corrosion you retain the level 4 corrosion but use the level 1 corrosion timer

[unreal light]

But does it add 30 more seconds

[unreal light]

Why would I want to have level 1 timer

[drifting quest]

because the timer is the same?

[unreal light]

I genuinely don’t get that part

[unreal light]

What no

It increases

[drifting quest]

only electrification increases its timer per level

or breach does too

but outside the current discussion

[unreal light]

Oh wait

It’s not electrification

True

Wait that’s so true

[drifting quest]

solidification/shatter, corrosion, combustion have fixed timers

[unreal light]

Thank you

I preemptively assumed all the timers are the same as electrification

[twilit quail]

vs most enemies in the game rn electrification and corrosion are going to be functionally the same because they have no resistance and hence the resistance zone, if corrosion is reducing res by 20, will be (100+20)/100=120%

which is no different from applying 20% dmg increase

however if the enemy has 20 resistance

you will go from (100-20)/100 = 80% to (100-20+20)/100 = 100%

which is actually a 25% increase in dmg dealt

[unreal light]

Huh interesting

[twilit quail]

it's just that using it rn is really awkward

and not many chars can do it

[wanton notch]

lets gooo (although take note Catcher aint good character, just fun one)

[unreal light]

And what’s the time I have to wait for corrosion to be at its maximum debuff percent

[twilit quail]

uh for example

lv1 corrosion starts at 3.6

then increases by 0.84 every second

until it reaches the cap at 10s

then scale that up with your status lvl + intensity

[unreal light]

10 seconds I see

And I do want to have my chara lvl 90 cause it further improves the corrosion character level scale

[oak vigil]

Tbh as the whole this team comp might work for other characters on-field too, like Lifeng, Endmin

[drifting quest]

wheelchair comp

[oak vigil]

True!

[drifting quest]

worse than chen pog lifeng wheelchair but wheelchairs nonetheless

[unreal light]

🤸🏻‍♀️
🦽 🏌🏻

[oak vigil]

That’s also true, but I appreciate there is variety instead of pure vulnerability team comps

[twilit quail]

the year is 2030

[oak vigil]

Excited to see if they’ll expand on vuln/ice hybrid

[twilit quail]

there are 10 physical reactions

[wanton notch]

True, although I specifically avoid using Edmin in my catcher teams even tho it makes it better

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/2007-was-5months-months-2007was5months-ago-gif-26534748

[cinder oxide]

I love artificing bros

Maxed a hot work dmg skill in 5 attempts then got absolutely nothing on the second with 3

I LOVE RNG

[oak vigil]

I AM A MACHINE WHICH TURNS 60 WEEKLY ARTIFICING MATS INTO “19/20 left until guaranteed”

[rare zodiac]

but corro give res down, which we don't have anything similar, while electro is same bracket with dmg taken, which we do have

[icy remnant]

I’m chilling even with this because I am already used to farming 2 entire months in Genshin for a single EM goblet

I don’t even need sanity for this

[twilit quail]

avywenna just gifted me stew meetings this is a sign

[cinder oxide]

I’ve alr bought out and used the shop’s artificing catalysts weekly reset come back

[icy remnant]

Endfield gear system is probably the best out of all the top tier gachas

Screw the crit hunting

[rare zodiac]

yeah 1000 times better than artifact in GI and HSR

[cinder oxide]

Even essence hunting isn’t that fucked

Hella rng

[oak vigil]

Compared to what I had to deal with while playing ZZZ (I only played ZZZ from gacha genre before this one), this feels like heaven

[cinder oxide]

But garuanteed

[unreal light]

Lvl 90 gear is coming

[icy remnant]

I don’t care still better

[unreal light]

We don’t know yet

[icy remnant]

You can never make me hate it more than finding double crit and rolling all into flat defence

Never

[rare zodiac]

hope with cool ass effect and not just dmg% up

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/navia-genshin-impact-genshin-meme-genshin-artifact-rng-gif-12529505626700992045

[cinder oxide]

I wouldn’t mind crit dmg and rate stuff in this game cos of how gear is rigid and substats are not randomised

[icy remnant]

Double crit Attack% and it’ll spawn a new line just for flat defense and everything goes in it

Fuck artifacts

[rare zodiac]

not to mention low roll high roll

it was cancer

[icy remnant]

There is actually zero percent chance Arknights gear system can be worse

Zero

[cinder oxide]

I just spent my last 360 sanity getting purple crystals bro I hate mat farming I should be spending on essence not this bs

Building a 2nd team is so ex…

[icy remnant]

My 2nd team is physical and I’m halfway done

It’s already super strong though

[rare zodiac]

well 2nd team is a luxury for now, no content yet

[icy remnant]

I think I can build a 3rd team now if I wanted to

Just leave 2nd team half built

[cinder oxide]

Phys is hella expensive to build completely so slight regret with me having to start with it

[icy remnant]

No reason everyone needs to be 90 or even have maxed skill anyways

I’m building Phys rn

[cinder oxide]

That said it’s alr done so I have head start on others

[icy remnant]

Lvl80 clears all content with trim medal and even able to speed run Agony

[unreal light]

There actually are reasons to make them 80/90 and even 90

[icy remnant]

Which is?

[cinder oxide]

Yeah but max lvl = bigger numbers hehe

[unreal light]

M1 bs ult pog, breach scales with level

M3 lifeng bs

[icy remnant]

Bigger damage number on content I already clear with 10% of the available time?

lol

[cinder oxide]

Your character gets 10% more atk between 80 to 90

[icy remnant]

[cinder oxide]

There’s a special arts reaction mult that scales with lvl

[icy remnant]

I mean yea I know

It’s mostly that content doesn’t ask for it

Can build everyone to lvl80 and play more teams

[cinder oxide]

Higher lvl actually makes your reactions strongest

[unreal light]

Yeah That’s not genshin with 14 base atk growth from lvl 80 to 90

[icy remnant]

I mean the biggest part is the scaling for reactions

Just like Genshin

Crush damage

But yea honestly it doesn’t matter

Lvl80 is already enough to clear and super comfortably

[cinder oxide]

I only have 1 lvl 90 cos he’s my guy

Da Pan

[icy remnant]

OG Arknights also wasn’t the kind of game that really rewarded Vertical investment

[cinder oxide]

Da man

[icy remnant]

Might as well spread it out

Only thing stopping me is Last rite not having a decent weapon

[unreal light]

Ban da pan

[cinder oxide]

With what resources bro I’m alr out

Of blue mats

[unreal light]

He wears no pants

[cinder oxide]

Da Pants

[edgy crater]

its does for earliest stage

[icy remnant]

You save 80% of all resources if you leave everyone at lvl80 lvl6 skill

More than 80 actually

Like 90%

[cinder oxide]

Can’t afford to do that for phys. Everyone needs dmg and some need masteries

[icy remnant]

You can absolutely afford to do that

Like what’s stopping you

[cinder oxide]

You want Pog m1s, lifeng m3s and Crush m3s

Feeling like u can do more dmg

[unreal light]

You don’t need m3 crush

It’s not mastering

[icy remnant]

Crush m3 doesn’t exist
Crush is a fixed multiplier

[cinder oxide]

Da Pan has one

A special one

[unreal light]

Ban da pan

[cinder oxide]

It goes from 1.15 to 1.2 from 9 to 12

[unreal light]

Goes from lift to lifted

[cinder oxide]

Separate from other mults

[icy remnant]

But yea Vertical investment doesnt do that much
You already clear everything super fast so it just makes it so you interact less with game mechanics and its not like there’s that much either

[cinder oxide]

I do it for the love of the game

Solo Da Pan runs

[icy remnant]

Most efficient right now is just getting 1 team that can clear stuff and then getting horizontal investment for base income tbh lmao

But ye i might consider building a 3rd team if I draw Yvonne

At least Ive a weapon for her unlike Lastrite

[thorny zinc]

who gave money to the snails?🤔

[neat snow]

They have their own income they don't need anyone to give them money

[sacred merlin]

is this right as the maximum possible intellect for p0 laeva and p0 weapon?

[heady pine]

696 is max yeah

[sacred merlin]

nice!

[neat snow]

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

[sacred merlin]

chengpt is this true?

[finite oriole]

im chatgpt. it's true since its on the internet

[sacred merlin]

[eager crow]

Had a buddy send me that but it was logan paul instead of musk, so i wouldnt trust that shit. Legit was copy pasted word for word.

[edgy crater]

no one does

[dire sable]

<@&956086618924650536>

<@&956153874383781928> ^

[restive pine]

how much INT do we need for Xaihi?

[drifting quest]

as much as you can manage without losing other thigns you need

[river scroll]

the max is like 400+ something right

but doesn't reach 500

[drifting quest]

1200

is the max

[river scroll]

wtf so high

[drifting quest]

you cant get to that, you'll cap out at 600-800 right now

[river scroll]

wait it's 400 no? where do you get 1200?

(36%-24%) / 0.03% = 400

[warm galleon]

Next limited 6start arts unit wep banner will cap it for sure
Just need max dupe.

[dapper mason]

apparently base amp and int scale int is diff buff

[drifting quest]

you can increase by 36% not by 12%

bad wording by EN

[river scroll]

wtf

[drifting quest]

it's in a list of issues I have to send off to customer support

let me actually do this now

[river scroll]

ok thx for the info

[drifting quest]

added to game feedback

time to make a CS ticket

ok cs tickets are going to ruin the formatting

[frozen tide]

🔥

[frozen tide]

Its just en wording the limit only applies to the int portion

Which caps it at 1200 int

Which is physically impossible to hit rn

It should become possible using starry if they introduce int main stat secondary percent gear pieces

But for it to be reachable in practice without using a dog shit weap we'd need like red gear or a set bonus for secondary stat/int

[summer flower]

Now I can do Chen or flurorite

But I still don't know if flurorite weapon is correct one for my playstyle

[summer flower]

How much int missing? Also this way it's not breaking when new content drops like dungeon crawl with upgrades for operators

[frozen tide]

You can get like 650 with deto and 990 with starry

[summer flower]

With secondary stat +%? Or without that?

Anyway it's better to have cap than unlimited for new content not breaking

[terse furnace]

Hm...

[frozen tide]

Worth every penny if you don't have one

[heady pine]

Thermite cutter next week

Jk

[drifting quest]

Next week is the thermite bait

Former finery

Iirc

[twilit quail]

most people probably wouldnt be able to tell from the icon alone

[drifting quest]

If people buy an ff

Its so over

[frozen tide]

Eminent repute vs wnn

Who wins

[heady pine]

Eminent repute

For ppl who can’t afford a dollar

Wnn is just

Useless dogshit

[frozen tide]

If you think about it

It gives like

8 more arts int

Than fort

Straight goat

[heady pine]

[wild meteor]

How do you know what's available in the following week

[drifting quest]

Datamines

[wild meteor]

Oh!

[drifting quest]

Yeah

FF then Repute then 1.1

[neat snow]

Which one is repute again

Oh it's the sword right

[frozen tide]

Yeah the dogshit one

[rugged vale]

ff is the one thats embers sig but even worse right

doesnt even look good unlike ember sig

[neat snow]

It's the fat thermite

[frozen tide]

Thermites chud brother

[neat snow]

My snow holds it. Two uselesses together ♥️

Actually she might be in my nexus she isn't entirely useless

I don't remember

[midnight stirrup]

Thermite is bait now?

[granite marten]

anyone know what gilb wants to run on a yvonne team with stanza

i know she wants ult charge at least, so do i run xiranite set?

[midnight stirrup]

Sig

Oh

The gear

Refer to pins

[granite marten]

oh ok, why did you say sig tho

[midnight stirrup]

I thought u meant someone already had stanza

[frozen tide]

You want +71.5 ult charge

[midnight stirrup]

So what to run on Gilb

[frozen tide]

Ex gloves is 26.7 and ex ult kit is 32

[granite marten]

no set bonus for xaihi? is it just int maxing.

[frozen tide]

Yeah

Eternal xiranite doesn't stack so

No point running it on her

Frontiers buff can't proc on xai