theorycrafting

[neat snow]

You don't control antal

[drifting quest]

ally ai runs ranged units into melee anyway

[heavy fossil]

in the grand scheme of things, that has very little impact on dps output compared to sp regen

[lost heart]

they do it less often for me compared to if I assigned melee units to them

[wise gate]

I mean are you dodging every attack on every character all at once to get maximum sp or something

[lost heart]

Or even if they do it the same amount

[drifting quest]

the more you can dodge the smoother rotations are

and hence the more damage you deal

[lost heart]

what is important is they take less damage compared to if they were melee

[drifting quest]

dodging converts to damage

[lost heart]

player character doesnt matter tho ya

[drifting quest]

even for units who care about finishing their basic sequence

dodging does not reset it

[wise gate]

granted my opinion is heavily skewed

should clarify I only run a single character at a time

[neat snow]

?

[lost heart]

i think it is easier to solo with ranged units

[wise gate]

factual

[lost heart]

since you tehcnically have more room for error

[drifting quest]

it again makes no difference

[wise gate]

xaihi has higher dps than most of the melees just because she gets to attack more

[frozen tide]

Bros doing arknights challenge run

[wise gate]

yes...?

[lost heart]

Ya she is pretty consistent to use in solo

[frozen tide]

[drifting quest]

this is like the biggest tangent into strawman going

[wise gate]

want me to give it a try?

[drifting quest]

go for it

[wise gate]

I'm relatively sure they have better output

[drifting quest]

its irrelevant to the greater point but

go wild

[wise gate]

but I'll do my best to be fair

[lost heart]

Idk what this is about but Im guessing when playing as intended it makes no difference so it doesnt matter

[lavish jay]

in the phys team, who do i level up first? edmin pog or lifeng? 🤔 im guessing chen is last prio to level

[drifting quest]

we started on literally

antal vs gilberta on electric

and somehow ended up at solo clears with skill issue

[wise gate]

Yeah I mentioned he was easily replacable with any other ranged character

who would you replace antal with in that comp

[drifting quest]

ranged vs melee has no bearing

[wise gate]

it does though

[drifting quest]

some speedrun setups run akekuri a melee character

it has no bearing at all

[wise gate]

...

[drifting quest]

what matters is the utility they provide

[lost heart]

if for the player a ranged unit increases their chanc of success, then for them the range unit may be better

[wise gate]

sometimes people use akekuri guys

therefore nothing else matters

[lost heart]

assuming solo run

[drifting quest]

???????

[wise gate]

case closed

[drifting quest]

the most supreme of baits

[wise gate]

my bad man wasnt aware of your game

[frozen tide]

Most nothingburger argument I've seen in my life

[wise gate]

sometimes people run akekuri

[drifting quest]

for real

[frozen tide]

Y'all should move on

[heavy fossil]

this is so funny

[drifting quest]

bro is trying to ragebait but sucks at it

[wise gate]

it's not even ragebait

[restive owl]

I have a question about endmin's build for the kit gear, currently im using bonekrusha mask but i keep hearing about lynx slab. Is it better that i use lynx slab to get the 20% main stat or the 41% dmg against staggered enemies?

[wise gate]

it's insane you're acting like people run akekuri cause she's a melee character

[drifting quest]

??????????????????????????

as i said

premium bait

lmfao

[wise gate]

I said in general theres not a reason to replace antal with a melee char

atleast i'm relatively sure

[drifting quest]

you should start a youtube channel

you'd fit right in

[lost heart]

whats the difference between premium bait and one thats cheap?

[drifting quest]

no one enjoys consuming cheap stuff

[wise gate]

well its just most of the people to fit into that slot would be a ranged char

[frozen tide]

Nobody cares melee vs ranged

It's damage and utility that matters

[wise gate]

I mean its a genuine dps argument

you're basically arguing for microscopic quantities

[drifting quest]

in other news

physical speedrun is finally sub 30

[wise gate]

oh nice

[drifting quest]

every good team is now sub 30

[wise gate]

can I see?

[amber vapor]

Full team of essences and artifices?

[restive owl]

@lost heart does the extra stats from lynx slab cover the dmg boost against staggered?

[drifting quest]

not full but they all have them

physical as a comp has the issues

its not getting much faster

[wise gate]

are you using buffs?

[lost heart]

I haven't used any gear besides green gear 🙏

But I am sure someone here knows the answer

[restive owl]

oh ok

[wise gate]

ngl they gave out free parts just craft the next tier up bro

[frozen tide]

Stagger for bosses

[lost heart]

my characters are all e0

[wise gate]

craft it anyways?

[lost heart]

You need e1 to equip blue gear

[restive owl]

oh ok thanks

[wise gate]

you do?

really?

gimme a sec

[lost heart]

yes

[wise gate]

I did not know that

damn

[drifting quest]

slabge really is inevitable

people pushing it on every unit

[wise gate]

tf is slabge

[drifting quest]

favge / cogge but endfield

[wise gate]

ok but what does sla stand for in that context

OHHH

bro this is such a dumb fucking term to use

[drifting quest]

welcome to tc brainrot

half a decade of it

[wise gate]

gonna start my morning with a cofge and then eat some fooge and then bruge myge teege ykwimge

[dire nymph]

[drifting quest]

nitroless behaviour i cant post any

[amber vapor]

[amber vapor]

Pouring one out for you

[dire nymph]

i robbed twitch for 4 months of nitro for 1 buck

[wise gate]

me when I'm endfield and I must supply misinfo

[drifting quest]

i wouldnt even pay the 1

[frozen tide]

Is this snowshine

[wise gate]

catcher

[frozen tide]

Ah

[wise gate]

what are snowshines lemme look

SHE ONLY HAS 6 STARS IN HER RECCOMENDED

[amber vapor]

Meme run where you only run defense units

[worn forge]

I was debating pulling for gilb on her banner coming up but it seems like everyone is leaning towards Fangyi being elec and not nature, thoughts?

[amber vapor]

No dodge challenge

[lost heart]

I didn't know there was a recommended weapon list in game

[drifting quest]

the weapon matcher is not good

[wise gate]

meme run where you only run level 1 catcher and it's taken you nearly 200 hours to kill the second boss

[amber vapor]

I would 100% do it with Endmin but never catcher

[wise gate]

somebody should try that run

[drifting quest]

pull who you want we have no idea what fangyi will do

wait for drip markets if they even come if you want

[wise gate]

somebody should try that run...

[heavy fossil]

ppl say electric cause of in game texts mentioning thunder arts and also that one cutscene

[lost heart]

does this mean you only use catcher on that one fight?

Since you will level up from level 1 quickly if you do mob battles

[wise gate]

no

[worn forge]

drip markets?

[lost heart]

lvl 20 is the first stopping point where you can prevent xp gain

[drifting quest]

teasers for upcoming banners ahead of the patch

[wise gate]

i'm playing the game with leveled up fluorite and after I beat a boss I must do the recrisis with level 1 catcher before I can continue the story

[dire nymph]

character teasers for the next patch

[worn forge]

gotchaaaa

[dire nymph]

i thought the event and ange was today and cleared my schedule

[worn forge]

ah the teasers, makes sense

[wise gate]

triaggelos recrisis is fucking me over so hard ngl

[dire nymph]

10 rhodagn runs for this

[wise gate]

this is the build

[drifting quest]

baited by incorrect news

[lost heart]

I think catcher would be too inconsistent. It would be better to use snowshine since she can heal at least

[drifting quest]

24 more hours

[lost heart]

i guess you can just dodge tho

If you can dodge enough it shouldnt matter

[wise gate]

in solos she's worse than catcher sadly

It's actually a feat that she manages to do it tbh

[lost heart]

I enjoy solo with fluorite

[wise gate]

soluorite is nice

[lost heart]

xaihi is slow but more consistent tho

[wise gate]

I've been stuck with level 50 fluorite for million year

[lost heart]

I did solo mc for a while but it was kind of annoying not being able to use combo skills

[dire nymph]

i read the ange sidestory was out today and went with it

[drifting quest]

in game news said it was apparently

i didnt check

[lost heart]

saddest part is you cant level down

[wise gate]

if you could I would be doing the whole game with level 1 catcher

[lost heart]

exactly

[wise gate]

I mean I've confirmed he's able to do mobbing

I've killed level 50 bonekrushers with level 1 no armor catcher

it doesnt even take long either

[tranquil burrow]

Someone did marble with lvl 90 Estelle and it still took literal half an hour

[wise gate]

I've been doing triag for literally fucking 140 hours dude

[lost heart]

Ya thats how these games area

they aren't designed to be balanced around the player self imposing difficulty like this

[wise gate]

tbf

most of my deaths are cause i'm just a thrower LMFAO

literally every challenge run I do where I die later on is because I threw the easiest shit ever

[lost heart]

I think people underestimate teh challenge of consistency

because the dodge is op

[dire nymph]

who got stew meeting routes

[wise gate]

I played one game with 0.01 max hp on hardcore, beat every boss, beat every bosses harder version, and then did boss rush, AND DIED TO PEASANT ON MY WAY TO THE DOOR AFTER BEATING BOSS RUSH

you can't make up how much of a thrower I am

[lost heart]

if you can already beat the bosses then it just becomes a challenge of consistency ya

making sure your head is in the game

[wise gate]

its just hard keeping myself this consistent

like throwing 3 hours into a fight or some shit

[lost heart]

There are ways to make it more consistent

[wise gate]

most of my challenge runs recently have been dps checks and not consistency checks

[lost heart]

but I am assuming you are avoiding those methods on purpose

[wise gate]

well I'm avoiding most of them but if they arent involving stats then lemme know

cause he has no armor and only a blue tier weapon

but i'm allowing usage of tactical buckflower powder

and buff items (tho you can't rebuff in the fight and entering the arena sets your ult meter to 0)

[lost heart]

I dont think what I have done really applies to you because I allow myself all the units I have

this is becuse I keep all of my units underleveled and play the game that way

[wise gate]

I mean It's good to get advice anyways no?

you might know something I dont

I know all the attacks you can jump over as well as the dodge timing for all the attacks and I've gotten pretty good at anim cancelling to speed up my dps

the direction of your dodge actually changes the dodge timing sometimes

[lost heart]

I'll admit that I have not gone as deep into these fights

[wise gate]

using mobile scan changes the saturation of colours and can let you see the red circle easier too

[lost heart]

intially I was planning on doing mc solo

but I wanted to clear teh game faster

so then I allowed my self to use a party

to make the game more consistent

[wise gate]

you should try doing this fr

[lost heart]

I still ocassionally solo

[wise gate]

works on most melee chars

to speed up their basic attacks

[lost heart]

and I have time now since I finished teh main quest

But we'll see

[wise gate]

ah I'm not done the main quest

[hexed edge]

hm

[wise gate]

I can't get past triag

[lost heart]

I was thinking to clear all of the re crisis with a party first

before I worry about solo

Even with a party it will end up solo unless you have some form of healing

since your party memeber will take damage gradually

[wise gate]

meh assuming you have no other restrictions theres plenty of healing methods

having a healing char on your team, healing tacticals, or a healing weapon, etc

[lost heart]

there is a healing weapon?

[wise gate]

yeah...?

i mean former finery has this skill which works well on snowshine and catcher

[lost heart]

I think if you had to choose between not having tacticals and not having healing units, It is probably safer to not have tacticals since you can at least control when you get healed then

[lost heart]

oh i dont have this

Also lvl 20 xaihi can easily get one shot at lvl 90 rohdagon, so even if you can heal it may not matter. Defender is more tanky

[wise gate]

oh I forgot they're all level 20

lemme draft something then

[lost heart]

If you have ideas I'll hear you out, but I have been doing fine so far

[wise gate]

idfk who to put in the 4th slot

put a team based healing item on catcher and use him as your controlled char

[lost heart]

I think this would only work if I have your self healing weapon

[wise gate]

no

just give him a healing tactical

[lost heart]

The other units will die even if he dodge no?

unless that isnt an issue

I guess what I mentioned doesnt solve that problem either

[wise gate]

I mean just adjust the tactical

nobody needs healing if he has a good team healing tactical (tacticals regenerate usecount and will keep being used in fights until you run out of the item)

and the others could carry revives or something

to account for them dying

[lost heart]

Im not sure there is enough dps

maybe it can work but it will be less consistant

than just having a healer

[wise gate]

it's definitely more consistent but it IS less healing

lemme do a dif one

[lost heart]

You don't really have to unless you find it interesting

[wise gate]

you could build a cryo team

snowshine would be catcher in this scenario

she has a group parry and if built with armor would be able to tank a hit from most of the enemies in the game

last rite could hold onto some arts vials or tubes to revive the occasional dead teammate

xaihi could ult for cryo amp

and estella could just be general dps

she'd be useful for cryo buildup too for last rite combo skill

[lost heart]

nice thinking

right now I have been using cryo actually

[wise gate]

I think that team works well tbh

snowshine gives passive cryo and general healing and her parry is more useful to her team than catchers

the tactical layout I gave a good bit of thought too but you could also do something else

but you'd really need to have snowshine or catcher on your team, or anybody capable of shielding allies because otherwise they'll all die

actually thinking about it i've never used the revival item

so this might be a better layout

for snowshine to be able to revive the others and last rite to hold onto the ration for backup healing

and then just use a kunst tube or something before your fights

I dont think any amount of DR is really going to help because you're all dying anyways

[lost heart]

There is a way to stay a live

or keep your party alive

and it is what I mentioned earlier

having them be ranged

sure they will still take damage sometimes

but it will take longer for them to die compared to if they were melee

also they will keep attacking

[wise gate]

and use this armor

[lost heart]

compared to if they were melee they may just stay back and do nothing

there isnt much armor to choose lol

[wise gate]

cause of the skill dmg buffs

[wise gate]

you're just choosing armor between if you want hp (then go miner armor) or if you want skill buffs then pick the aic

give snowshine aic heavy

she gets a rather large chunk of raw DR from it and the set effect is useful

[lost heart]

right now I jsut have it set up to gurantee set bonus and maximize their main stats

on all of my units

[wise gate]

meh

[lost heart]

the 500 hp useful

[wise gate]

I would give her this

everybody else i'd just give like aic light

if you want the 500 hp

then give estella the same as snowshine for armor

[sly nymph]

its green gear… you dont even need gear at that level…

[wise gate]

and uhh

[wise gate]

challenge run.

he's only using e0 units

[sly nymph]

icant

[wise gate]

cant wear anything above green armor

[lost heart]

I can try experimeenting with other armors ya

[wise gate]

1 sec

[lost heart]

I mostly jsut preset everything

since I wanted it to be simple while i beat the game

[wise gate]

@lost heart

that's what their best sets are atleast from my pov

[peak void]

are these stats (and set) good

[lost heart]

I'll consider reviewing them, thanks for the input

gl on your catcher thing I guess

[wise gate]

gl to you too!

👍

[lost heart]

I actually put off T boss

I still need to do it

[frozen tide]

Set looks good

[peak void]

How abt the stats

I heard i need 5k atk but idk how to reach it

its not like my weapon is THAT bad either

just missing a few more etches

[neat snow]

I mean a fully maxed Laev has over 5800 attack but nothing really requires that right now

[dry kindle]

What playing endfield does to a mf

[lost heart]

what do I do if I dont have enough gossip 😔

[peak void]

go get some gg

[gritty olive]

is this max artifice gear

a non maxxed artifice but maxxed weapon is 5209.5 ish

[neat snow]

Fully maxed. Everything

[peak void]

well shit lmao

i am nowhere near that

[neat snow]

I'm at 5600 right now missing one attack essence level and strength artifice

[dry kindle]

5800 is tide not redeemer

[gritty olive]

alrifht

[fresh lynx]

why do people say you need to mainfield Endmin because shes main dps in Endmin-Chen-Lifeng-Pog?

its from her skill/ult isnt it?

like could you on field Chen in that comp?

[wise gate]

what

what does that statement mean

I dont understand

[gritty olive]

controlled op = endmin

why couldnt they control someone else

not answering cuz idk the answer

[wise gate]

I mean some people say to swap between endmin and lifeng but idk the answer either

[tiny kite]

i guess basic attack? is endmin fs has applied debuff?

[proud vector]

endmin basics do what?!

[lavish jay]

in the phys team, who do i level up first? edmin pog or lifeng? 🤔 im guessing chen is last prio to level..

[bleak steeple]

Can't find an existing thread or convo people had here so I'm asking to you guys, I want to understand if there's any impact on dividing the stages of creation of a product (battery or meds) in multiple pacs, because my rat brain tells me as long the item reaches the depot it should be fine to reach the next stage in another place. I'm asking this because I have little spaces I could squeeze for another buck capsule facility

[proud vector]

More output bus slot usage

Basically you are limited by ore and number of depot bus output slots

Split the process too much and you suddenly don’t have enough outputs to expand basically

[tiny kite]

there is, lower output per production.

[gritty olive]

actually i managed to fit in a half buck producer in the subpacs

so like full battery + 1/2 bucka in every subpac

[proud vector]

But if you do have free bus slots, yeah go for it

[gritty olive]

its very cramped lol

[proud vector]

I have a small sandleaf only production plant in a PAC to cheat how I integrate sandleaf into one of my systems that is too cramped lol

[tiny kite]

technically you can just go very minimalists with the factory, just dont expect that it will produce as fast as u wanted to.

[gritty olive]

@bleak steeple

[tiny kite]

prioritize your battery production, or its useless to have minimalists base with no power

[proud vector]

it’s fun to optimise

Checkmate

[bleak steeple]

Oh def, I don't want to reduce the input/ouput of things, just figuring I can create enough ferrium bottles and buckpowder in another place, then feed 2 and 2 of those where I need them, in the main aic for example

Well, that answers my question, you guys are nice, thanks

[tiny kite]

oh then just level up normally XD buckC/greenbatt to buckB/bluebatt to buckA/purple while expanding bases n depot nodes n that lucky rabbit stock exchange and the sub PAC

[peak void]

wtf that was quicker than i expected

maybe i should just trust the process

[wise gate]

Minimalist base with no power:

[blazing lake]

do you have a 3/3 essence

[peak void]

its not maxed but i guess its 3/3

this took hell to get

i hate wuling alluvium lmao

[frozen tide]

What is this

[dry kindle]

Suffering

[frozen tide]

Is it smth in endfield?

[bronze plume]

no its ak

[frozen tide]

Ic

Ive like played ak tutorial and mayb the first few lvls on mobile years back

And that's my only experience

[whole crystal]

I watched two lore videos

one could say Im quite experienced

[devout perch]

Should I p1 my JET or hang onto the spare?

[amber vapor]

I've been using a bp I found in week 1 that produces bucks and batteries in every sub pac, and all endgame V4 resources necessary too.

[frozen tide]

prob p1

[amber vapor]

I don't think wep pots are worth it

The increase is pretty negligible

Hold onto it for a future op tbh

[icy notch]

in Iana's doc, why laev purple glove is mordvolt resistant instead of mordvolt insulation?

[bronze plume]

as long as you get 18/min thats maxed

[frozen tide]

jet is a pure dps weapon

how many spear non physical dps are you planning to have on your team

[wise gate]

how much hp do buck A even give bro

[frozen tide]

its for selling

no for use

[valid zealot]

Fk tentacles.

How do I tentacles.

[bronze plume]

891

i mean i still use em on my characters

0 need to have anything better

[wise gate]

was asking because I know some people who use them for some reason

[wise gate]

either equip nothing or equip something better

you can just equip a non healing tactical bro

[bronze plume]

whats the point lol

[wise gate]

equip like ult generation or something

[bronze plume]

why would i lol

[wise gate]

dps?

[bronze plume]

id rather have the extra healing

what am i going to need extra dps on

[wise gate]

WHAT EXTRA HEALING?

ITS FUCKING DOGSHIT

[bronze plume]

[wise gate]

literally use ANYTHING ELSE BRO 😭

[bronze plume]

theres nothing that needs extra dps

technically nothing that needs extra healing

[normal tangle]

what's a better use of sanity currently? upgrading essence, leveling laeva/weapon (both at 80/90), or investing in supports

[wise gate]

theres nothing that needs extra healing either bro

[bronze plume]

but id rather have the backup healing in case i fail to dodge then more dmg that i dont need

[valid zealot]

But heal food are auto farmed.

I'm not meat farming to eat meat stew in daily roaming.

[bronze plume]

yeah im not going out of my way to go find firebuckle each time i need to restock

[normal tangle]

steal some jincao drink from your factory idk

unless you're producing yazhen syringes like a chud

[wise gate]

literally use anything besides buck capsule A

[bronze plume]

it isnt needed nothing in this game requires shit tons of healing especially when i have ardelia and nothing requires more dmg besides trim medals

[wise gate]

infact

USE REGULAR BUCKPOWDER

[bronze plume]

it doesnt matter

[wise gate]

ITS BETTER

[normal tangle]

?

[bronze plume]

it literally doesnt matter lmfao

[normal tangle]

no it's not?

we just making shit up fr

[wise gate]

I'm just arguing that if I was in this scenario i'd use literally any other tactical

give me powdered citrome

[bronze plume]

buck powder is 352 what are you on

[normal tangle]

???

bro's just being a contrarion for the sake of it

[bronze plume]

that literally doesnt make any sense

[normal tangle]

buck A is fine man

[wise gate]

why?

I could SELL the buck a

[normal tangle]

dude you produce shit tons of buck A it doesn't matter

[bronze plume]

are we deadass right now

[wise gate]

and by producing buck a you also make shit tons of buckpowder

[bronze plume]

are we

[normal tangle]

29k left over, they're not buying any more of this shit

[wise gate]

just produce less buck a?

[normal tangle]

????

[bronze plume]

why

[normal tangle]

do you even play this game dude

[bronze plume]

you dont need to produce less

[wise gate]

you just said you're overproducing

[bronze plume]

you literally are meant to make more then the camps give out

[bronze plume]

so?

why would that matter

theres nothing else worth it to make in valley factory

why would i make worse things

i dont need anything else

[wise gate]

I mean my argument stands I would personally rather use any other healing item dude

buck A is actually horrendous

[bronze plume]

it doesnt stand

[normal tangle]

your argument isn't standing on shit

[bronze plume]

you literally said youd use something worse for the sake of not using buck A for the item slot

[normal tangle]

"i'd rather use regular buckflower powder"

[wise gate]

yes I would

[proud vector]

You can make batteries to
Manually ferry to Wuling

[bronze plume]

sure your waste of time argument couldve made sense before you said youd rather use something worse

but it doesnt fucking matter

[normal tangle]

me when i'm a contrarion for literally no reason at all

[wise gate]

I would rather use something worse than spend extra aic factory space to make buck a I dont use

[bronze plume]

bro

what else are you going to use the factory for

tell me

[proud vector]

Apparently one full inv dump can last you 10 days of power

[normal tangle]

twin i don't think this guy plays the game

[frozen tide]

i love this chat

[bronze plume]

what other actually useful item is there

tell me

[normal tangle]

bro prob just finished the tutorial

[proud vector]

Batteries

[bronze plume]

what would be better to make

[wise gate]

batteries

[proud vector]

To ferry to the next region

[normal tangle]

why do you have dense ferrium starred lol

[bronze plume]

im making 18 batteries a min

[wise gate]

wrong reply

but batteries

[normal tangle]

you make shit tons of both

[bronze plume]

i lke to just star all the main things

why would i need more batteries

im making 18/min of both

[wise gate]

to get more power

[bronze plume]

both give the same amount of units

i dont need more power

[wise gate]

you do

[bronze plume]

no

[normal tangle]

for what

[bronze plume]

i dont

[proud vector]

So you can carry it in your 35 slot inventory 1750 batteries at a time to your AIC in wuling

[normal tangle]

you can't even make more batteries

[bronze plume]

gang you do not play this game

[normal tangle]

literally use different resources

[wise gate]

powering the random gigantic quantities of useless dogshit I want to place in random locations

would still be more fun than producing extra BUCK A TO USE BRO

[frozen tide]

is this guy actually larping

[bronze plume]

this guy doesnt play this game

[normal tangle]

he is

[wise gate]

I do genuinely play the game and I'm just mad at anybody who plays like that

[bronze plume]

where are you getting the extra originium to make more batteries

[wise gate]

go manually craft some firebuckle bro

please

[bronze plume]

plays like fucking what

[wise gate]

stop using random shit

like

[bronze plume]

are you stupid or dumb

gang

it doesnt matter

[normal tangle]

he's saving all the originium from his buck farms obviously

[bronze plume]

bros putting originium in his meds

[full cave]

This game also has M3 skills from the OG

[wise gate]

do they even use originium bro

[wise gate]

I dont make buckpills

I would not know

[bronze plume]

HOLY SHIT YOURE STUPID

you cant make more then 18 batteries a minute

[wise gate]

have you tried making more batteries tho

[bronze plume]

what are you going to use the ferrium for if not buck capsule As

YOU CANT

[proud vector]

with manual labour you can in theory

[frozen tide]

unc crashing out

[wise gate]

no but have you tried

[bronze plume]

20 extra cant even make another set of 6

[wise gate]

literally you can bro

just try harder

[bronze plume]

this guys either a troll or stupid

id think both

[wise gate]

you're either stupid or dumb

[safe sand]

no he's cooking you just gotta ferry the originium manually from wuling

also not a #theorycrafting post

rb

[bronze plume]

that gives 13/m extra

[wise gate]

as a professional my collars blue but my neck is red enjoyer

I have manually mined 40k originium

just manually do it crodie

[bronze plume]

ok yeah hes stupid

[wise gate]

no

i'm autistic

different thing bro

[normal tangle]

wait so true

just unlock metastorage promax

[brave basin]

regional transfer being slow is so ass bro

we gotta have trains in endfield

[proud vector]

the funny thing is with 20/min originium ore you could legitimately make more batteries, but just not 100% efficient

[bronze plume]

its a useless thing anyway

you could make like

19/min

who cares

[wise gate]

me when I'm wrong so I fall back on the "its useless tho" argument:

[proud vector]

Does trading bucks alone max everything out

Or do you trade batteries first

[bronze plume]

gang you are the wrong one

how stupid can you be

[normal tangle]

you can't, actually

[safe sand]

just drop it you're getting ragebaited

lol

[normal tangle]

lol

[wise gate]

Idk have you tried the mirror bro

[normal tangle]

at most you're getting 18.67/min

[bronze plume]

oh i know

[wise gate]

six seven

anyways yeah I'm just ragebaiting

[normal tangle]

bars

[bronze plume]

its just a stupid kid on the internet

[wise gate]

but it does actually make me mad when people use buck capsules

it's the worst fucking shit ever

[normal tangle]

then you're an idiot

[safe sand]

as opposed to the citrome variant?

oh hey @brave basin

[wise gate]

theres nothing left to do in the game anyways just grind out firebuckle or citromix or ult generating tacticals or anything

[normal tangle]

anyway now that this chud is out of the way, any knowers

[brave basin]

imagine using buck capsules

i use yazhen syringes

[brave basin]

hi

[bronze plume]

laev probably

supports dont need much investment at all

[normal tangle]

twin you can make jincao drink

outpost buys that too

[brave basin]

don't they sell the same anyway

[safe sand]

you can try for 90/90 and then spend the rest of your sanity till next patch RNGing essence

[normal tangle]

unless you were also a citrome can enjoyer

[normal tangle]

yeah but jincao is actually usable

yazhen is so weirdcore

[brave basin]

i wanted to be a citrome enjoyer, but buck could be sold earlier

whats wrong with yazhen

its more effective healing

[normal tangle]

idk i just don't like the healing over time

[brave basin]

just don't get one shot frfr

[bronze plume]

nothing wrong with it

[safe sand]

just dont get hit at all 💀

[normal tangle]

weapon or laev first?

[bronze plume]

its just the healing over time or immediate healing argument

[proud vector]

balance your buck and citrome

If you lose your phone for a day they can stack up more if you split production 50/50

[brave basin]

true

[bronze plume]

leav is easier cuz essence rng

[safe sand]

what are you prepping for 💀

[normal tangle]

i mean just xp wise

[whole crystal]

[wise gate]

@bronze plume YOU COULD BE USING THE EXTRA SPACE TO FIT YOUR UNPOWERED PROTOCOL STASHES BRO

[brave basin]

unfortunately ferrium in wuling can't even support 1 yazhen maker

[normal tangle]

getting the last 10 levels of either

[brave basin]

so im stuck anyway

[timber harness]

im seeing more and more videos shilling ember stagger setup for physical. looks quite fun

[safe sand]

prioritize whatever sets your heart more at easy 👍

[normal tangle]

i have 20 sanity boosters that expire in 2 days

i gotta do something man

[safe sand]

the ember cabal is speading so much propaganda

[wise gate]

genuinely I just let them expire I cba bro

[brave basin]

have you guys tried fitting 2 purple batteries in 1 outpost

[safe sand]

if you want to use them on something you wont regret just do tcreds

lol

[proud vector]

it’s not propaganda if it’s true

Stagger is kinda funny and well final attacks regen SP

[bronze plume]

you can

[wise gate]

guys rate my amazing build

[whole crystal]

T credits

[brave basin]

from scratch or from importing

[wise gate]

heres the team comp if yall were wondering

[brave basin]

oh nice

[timber harness]

the CC I saw doing it frequently does this where they play new gachas and take on the contrarian off meta take and try to "prove people wrong" and basically start fake internet arguments with people on youtube. its kinda funny but glad to see people utilizing ember in some way anyway.

[bronze plume]

i built everything i had in cbt2 then copied it over

[valid zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderator-discord-moderator-delete-moderator-snitch-gif-27063075

[normal tangle]

the lack of belt bridges bothers me idk why

[wise gate]

lol its sort of fun to do

[bronze plume]

why would i need more belt bridges

[normal tangle]

i'm not saying you need them

i'm just saying that seeing such a big factory with 0 bridges is off-putting

[wise gate]

genuinely just because it makes your factory run better

like if your pc sucks

it unloads the item that would go on the factory belt

so it makes your pc run better

deadass

[bronze plume]

i dont need belt bridges so i dont use them

only when i have to which is why theres like 6

[wise gate]

but yeah you dont need them

[timber harness]

if only i didnt need to selector lifeng i wouldve picked her up

[gritty olive]

is this lisara

[normal tangle]

i wonder if anyone's made a factory purely out of bridges and splitters in place of actual belts

[timber harness]

thats the one

[proud vector]

You could probably compact the factory more (which requires more bridges)

[proud vector]

But honestly yeah you don’t need to

[bronze plume]

dont need it more compact anyway

[normal tangle]

eh it's a sub pac

who cares lol

[bronze plume]

18/18 is the max you can make of both

i have that with room to spare

its not that hard to do

[frozen tide]

at max expansion you dont need to make stuff very compact to have max output

because theres limited input

[wise gate]

nah deadass it pisses me off that they made catcher objectively better than snowshine at everything she does but she builds cryo and her skills affect the whole team instead of half of it so she's better with a full team equipped, stop slandering catcher man

[timber harness]

they were doing the same thing with yuki being mid in czn and arguing with people saying nah yuki is good you guys are just bad (he used her when the content was shilling buffs for her in a abyss-like gamemode and she was indeed ass because the devs buffed her. she's still outpaced by everyone else post buff and recent unit basically crept her already)

[normal tangle]

lowkey idk why people make 24 buck C

i already cap my outposts by a shit ton

what's the point

[frozen tide]

catcher vs snowshine

battle of the century

[normal tangle]

in what

snowshine has genuine uses

[bronze plume]

i mean theres nothing else needed besides 18/18

[normal tangle]

well

use (singular)

[bronze plume]

let them use it as they want who cares

[wise gate]

no I'm being so fr

[normal tangle]

i'm not engaging with you bro sybau

[wise gate]

she sucks so bad compared to catcher but she builds cryo and nobody gaf about vuln and he also sucks at building any

WHY'D THEY MAKE HIM BETTER AND THEN GIVE HIM NO TEAMS

[tight meadow]

Catcher chopped

[wise gate]

THIS IS BULLSHIT

[bronze plume]

he just woke up realized he didnt need to go to school today and decided ragebaiting is the next best thing

[wise gate]

what

theres more than one timezone bro

[normal tangle]

on godnem

[wise gate]

I woke up at 10pm and my 10pm classes that you take after graduating werent available so I got on to ragebait

totally what happened

dw I get it man we all wake up at 10pm and have school at 10pm

on a thursday

[proud vector]

good ol college days

[normal tangle]

oh he's canadian

this explains it all

[wise gate]

what?

[proud vector]

What by timezone?

[bronze plume]

that does explain it all actually

[wise gate]

you know like multiple places use this timezone right

[bronze plume]

american would explain it even more tho

[normal tangle]

yeah and only one of them speak both french and english

[wise gate]

FUCK

HE KNOWS

[proud vector]

Fr*nch?!

[wise gate]

actual braincells on thsi guy fuck

[wise gate]

nah I'm thankfully not french

I'm just part of the minority that recieves the most hatecrimes

which is equally as good as being french tbh

[normal tangle]

brodie's lore banned holy banger

[bronze plume]

how do you even get lore banned

[wise gate]

wtf even is a lore ban

[normal tangle]

by posting shit like that probably 😭

[wise gate]

WHAT IS A LORE BAN THO

is it like a ban from lore channels

[tight haven]

off-topic, trolling, misinfo

yeah

[frozen tide]

agagrit should be an emote

[wise gate]

its Aggagrit

double G

[frozen tide]

you wouldnt get it

[wise gate]

like aggelos

[frozen tide]

what does exchange o crates give

[normal tangle]

random shit

i've gotten arsenal tokens and oroberyl, along with a random assortment of progression supplies

[frozen tide]

ooh

thats neat

[wise gate]

yeah I've gotten up to purple tier weapon tune up materials

[bronze plume]

soon

[outer ermine]

whel

[bronze plume]

it literally just costs the paid bp for this

[normal tangle]

all this to get powercrept in 2 patches 🕊️

[bronze plume]

yeah i dont give a fuck about powercreep

[frozen tide]

i have my rite sitting at 9 9 12 12

i should get it 9 12 12 12

[bronze plume]

im getting ardelia and laev to 12 12 12 12

and idc if its "resource effiecient"

[wise gate]

bro why tf did I spaz out on the vehicle

[austere creek]

whats going to be better here?

[dry kindle]

Not slab

[ocean hawk]

SLAB™

jk

[sterile herald]

upgraded pogs cskill and then realized i didnt really need to and now its gonna bother me to keep it half levelled

i wish i could set it back to level 1

im gonna have to upgrade it to 9 bruh

they really gotta add a way to unlevel skills and weapons just because i dont like how they look when i upgrade them part way and then realize it was a waste

[dry kindle]

We don't even have a sane way to buy weapon pulls yet

[silver spoke]

use the wiki to figure out whether the stat you want is actually being upgraded before you upgrade it

[sterile herald]

yeah i did this as soon as i realized

wont make the mistake again but now he has level 5 cskill and a level 20 thermite cutter

not amused cause now it doesnt look nice

do i level them to 9 and 90 for symmetry sake or do i tank the L

[silver spoke]

unlucky

[sterile herald]

i actually wasted an insane amount of resources on my first team it’s crazy

wasn’t reading shit

bricked account honestly

level 54 but i should probably just delete and reroll or what

it’s over

[frozen tide]

who did you level

[tranquil burrow]

This is a cooked state of mind

Very relatable

[sterile herald]

it’s bad bro

[frozen tide]

list the names

[silver spoke]

release the list

[old salmon]

i mean you can just wait im sure in future patches there'll be better ways to get resources

hopefully

[sterile herald]

80/80/9/9/9/9 wulfgard
80/80/6/9/9/9 ardelia
80/24/6/9/9/9 antal

it’s really

[tranquil burrow]

I leveled all chars to 20 + first Dijiang passive, second Phys team is all 40s, and then a main team. I’ve coped myself into believing it’s “symmetrical”.

[sterile herald]

really bad

like this shit deserves to get me hung bro

it’s not even funny

why did i level ardelia basics?

idk!

[tranquil burrow]

Hey I’m the same, what’s so bad about this

[rare rover]

9 on basic for wulfguard yikes

[frozen tide]

not even that bad

[tranquil burrow]

I’m going all 9s too

[sterile herald]

early game he seemed like a viable second dps if i needed the range

[frozen tide]

ard and antal are good units and wulf is bis for laev rn

[sterile herald]

late game he’s ult stack bot

the units themselves are good

[rare rover]

except laev makes 99.99% of the damage kek

[tranquil burrow]

But I also only have one main team and I like to fully invest. Already got max essence and artificed set for Laev.

[sterile herald]

but most of their skills and weapons don’t need to be levelled

at all

[frozen tide]

you want 80/90 on ard if you can afford

[sterile herald]

none of them need levelled weapons and wulfgard needs 0 levelled skills, ardelia needs 1, antal needs 2

[frozen tide]

antal idk

[sterile herald]

don’t need the healing though

it’s fake

[frozen tide]

wulf is kinda sad lmao

[sterile herald]

just dodge

it’s all sad

[frozen tide]

you can upgrade her susc through talent

[sterile herald]

bricked level 54 account

[sterile herald]

sure if i want to crown ardelia i guess

my P3 ARDELIA

like what the fuck man

where’s my p3 lifeng

[frozen tide]

getting close to p5

!!!

[tranquil burrow]

We will eventually have full 90 teams with max essence and full artificed gear on all anyways simply because rate of acquisition of new characters will always be the greatest bottleneck

[frozen tide]

p5 is nice on ard

[sterile herald]

great!

i get to have a profile background that’s unique i guess

[sterile herald]

i can’t wait

because right now trying to level my second team (phys) and i am FEELING those wasted resources

bad.

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah well second team

That’s cooked

[sterile herald]

i want them to be main team

i like the gameplay more

i made the same mistake on pog to a much lesser degree

[frozen tide]

her p5 reduces combo skill cd

[sterile herald]

not amused

[frozen tide]

higher corrosion uptime

poggers

[tranquil burrow]

At least I intend to stick to only one team

[sterile herald]

wohoo

[sterile herald]

my thoughts until i realized lae was just boring

[tranquil burrow]

I enjoy her, she’s quite complicated for me to play optimally

[sterile herald]

my lae is almost completely maxed out aside from crowns

[rare rover]

commit to laev, love live laugh laev

[sterile herald]

5350 atk no buffs on tide fall

no slab double pyro

[tranquil burrow]

I crowned two of her skills, will probably crown one Gilberta skill and that’d be it for 1.0 from me

[rare rover]

the tidefall ult recharge build?

[sterile herald]

masteries are 0/3/0/1 and essence is 5/5/3

[sterile herald]

tide fall 3pc hot work

that’s all i have left to upgrade

[rare rover]

whats the 3p???

[sterile herald]

gear is fully artificed

[rare rover]

u put it in the middle

[sterile herald]

hot globes double pyrometer

[tranquil burrow]

I’m at like 5.7k atk with Tidefall + Hotwork set. Freaking 696 int is annoying to look at.

[rare rover]

your atk should be closer to 5700 then

[sterile herald]

where do u even get the rest from

i have almost nothing left to upgrade

[rare rover]

wait no essence right

[sterile herald]

tf am i missing

my essence is 5/5/3

[rare rover]

i have exactly nothing to upgrade

[tranquil burrow]

Idk, fully max everything. I’ve maxed essence and gear.

[sterile herald]

almost maxed

[rare rover]

my laev is completely maxed

[lime bear]

I'm not gonna bother maxing my artificing tbh

just gonna focus on maxing my essence

[sterile herald]

one essence upgrade for atk and one for intellect and then it’s just crowns left

[tranquil burrow]

Difference is I’m fully maxed, so maybe there?

[sterile herald]

that’s a lot of atk from just 2 essence upgrades but i guess

soon.

[tranquil burrow]

Last essence levels have a greater boost than previous levels

[frozen tide]

my rite atk is so dogshit

cause i havent worked on essencing

[tranquil burrow]

6% atk and 16 int from last 2 stat levels

[rare rover]

[sterile herald]

is this with food or the wuling 5% buff tho

[rare rover]

0 food

[sterile herald]

or potentials

wuling 5%?

[tranquil burrow]

Oh yeah potentials then

[rare rover]

i can show u with food but yeah im in wuling

[tranquil burrow]

They give intellect

[sterile herald]

ah

wuling buff cheating

scam

fake news

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218160678720765953/1286361728233242665/togif.gif

[rare rover]

this is with food

[sterile herald]

huge

[tranquil burrow]

Damn food is OP

Still won’t bother

[sterile herald]

amen

[proud vector]

Maybe with the endgame mode

[sterile herald]

just once for the max atk screenshot

and then never again

[proud vector]

[sterile herald]

i doubt they’d let you even bring tactical

[rare rover]

sweats in my massive ginsing farm

[tranquil burrow]

They should, else they’re worthless

[sterile herald]

i never farm

[proud vector]

Honestly don’t see why not. It’s usually a DPS check anyways

[tranquil burrow]

Like why even exist

[sterile herald]

slop

when ur sustainless over world gaining

[tranquil burrow]

I do farm

[sterile herald]

gaming

or to sell to wuling

[tranquil burrow]

I don’t farm meat however

[sterile herald]

syringes

[tranquil burrow]

Not crazy enough to go around killing mobs for mats

[rare rover]

does anyone find it odd the only source of meat in the game just happens to need to be dogs?

[tranquil burrow]

Eco farm is ez work

[sterile herald]

not doing no eco farm ever

i’ll die on this hill

amen

[tranquil burrow]

It’s as easy as factory

[rare rover]

like we're glossing over the fact we get meat from dogs

[sterile herald]

CANT. BE. ASSED.

[tranquil burrow]

A little less set and forget but trivial still

Eco farm is super worth it

[sterile herald]

the number one thing that always kills gachas for me eventually is repeatable daily tasks

[tranquil burrow]

Farming meat is too annoying so skip that

[sterile herald]

the more effort they take the sooner the game dies in my heart

hsr was my longest played simply because i could autobattle them all

[rare rover]

why are we glossing over the meat source of the game

[sterile herald]

bro

[rare rover]

[sterile herald]

eat the dog

it’s simple

[rare rover]

[sterile herald]

send me 13$ for battle pass bro

😀

[tranquil burrow]

It’s $10 tho

[sterile herald]

canadian

monopoly money

[tranquil burrow]

Well there’s like a hundred worse currencies

Probably more

[sterile herald]

i remember when i was a kid

cad to usd was 1:1

oh well

[tranquil burrow]

And now it’s 1.3?

[sterile herald]

pretty much

[tranquil burrow]

Have you seen Lira or Peso or Ruppee

[sterile herald]

fake currency for fake country

i know this

went to europe recently and the exchange rate being 1.6:1 was killing me

[tranquil burrow]

Perlica still wants that $30k, that’s $45k for you so get to it

[sterile herald]

guh

the problem is i could buy these bp but as soon as i start spending real money on this game i open the floodgates

i don’t want to do that it’s bad for my wallet

i need to find a 10$ gift card somewhere

[tranquil burrow]

Depends on individual but mentally I can distinguish between monthly + bp and then truly opening the floodgates

As long as I don’t buy some stupid bundle I can happily stick with just bp + monthly

[sterile herald]

no that’s what i meant by floodgates i would never ever ever buy straight pulls

[tranquil burrow]

I treat these gacha as sloppy live service garbage but too bad they’re the only ones with anime waifu collection so I have to take what I can get

[sterile herald]

but i don’t want to suddenly be buying every single bp and monthly

i hate spending on in app purchases it just feels like such a waste

idk what it is i just do not like spending money

[tranquil burrow]

Better spend it on proper games instead of gacha if nothing else

[sterile herald]

exactly

[tranquil burrow]

10000x the value but no anime waifus

[sterile herald]

i’d rather drop 80 on a game i get 60 good hours out of than spend 10 on a game i might spend 1000 hours on but it’s a free game and i bought premium currency or something

yknow

blame it on my dad

[old salmon]

and the 90% of that 1000 hours is spent doing the same type of thing over and over again

[sterile herald]

i remember the first time i asked for clash of clans gems

he told me it was a waste of money and that shit stuck with me

[tranquil burrow]

Imagine playing Expedition 33 but Stendarr is locked behind an E6 Maelle

[sterile herald]

i did expedition 33 with solo sciel

just cause i thought she was hot mostly

[tranquil burrow]

I did it normally

What a game

[sterile herald]

it was good

not well balanced though

[tranquil burrow]

I listened to its OST so much on Spotify the composer showed up as my second most listened to artist and I was like who tf is this guy

[sterile herald]

that’s fire

[weak meteor]

SCIEL?

like mostima

[sterile herald]

???

who the he’ll

nice thanks autocorrect good one

[weak meteor]

this guy

[sterile herald]

gonna be real i played og arknights for like 5 hours maybe

i’m a fraud

[urban anchor]

So uhh, anyone knows if Stanza of Memorials ATK% + Buff is added to base attack or attribute attack ?

[normal tangle]

real af

i logged in, pulled exusiai, and logged off

all in like 3 days

didn't get lee so i didn't care

[frozen tide]

should be to total atk

[weak meteor]

damn

[frozen tide]

atk percent is rly good

[urban anchor]

that makes its quite better than OBJ then when used for Laevatain

[frozen tide]

Attack Power = [(Operator Base Attack + Weapon Base Attack)(1 + Percentage Bonus (ATK%)) + Fixed Value Bonus] * (1 + Stat Bonus)

[normal tangle]

bruh is this even worth it for the +52 atk

this shit uses literally everything i have 😭

[frozen tide]

it is a notable increase

[urban anchor]

It is. Because that +52 is added to your base attack before multiplier

[frozen tide]

nothing urgent but you eventually do want to for your dps

[weak meteor]

level 1 jet

[normal tangle]

i guess i'm all in on laeva

[frozen tide]

who else than avy even uses jet

[weak meteor]

estella solo

[frozen tide]

i personally like doing dmg

[twilit quail]

dont worry ardashir will single handedly propel shatter to t0

and leave bums like last rite in the dust

[weak meteor]

to t-1

[dry kindle]

Inb4 ardashir enables any element to shatter

Last rite shatter 🔥

[normal tangle]

ardashir will propel shatter to t0 but he releases with 2 other 6* teammates in a big aether operator patch that he absolutely requires

thus is my proclamation

[dry kindle]

Fuck

Man I'm gonna die if fangyi needs mifu

[weak meteor]

that would be terrible game design

the genshin path

[wise gate]

but X is only good with Y bro

[tranquil burrow]

Inb4 Fangyi Mi Fu Tangtang core

[dry kindle]

yvonne

[tranquil burrow]

Most chars right now are also like that. We have strict synergies. Like you can’t just play Laev with Lifeng or whatever.