theorycrafting

[mystic halo]

I wonder what the impetus was

why would he do this? is he stupid?

[grave flame]

https://tenor.com/view/snob-rich-spongebob-squarepants-gif-13899241

[rugged kiln]

What’s with the ember shaming

[mystic halo]

I mean I dont think he is wrong

there is no reason to play this character if you are not extremely lazy or handless

[drifting quest]

time to make a new sheet

[gritty olive]

opal where do you use laeve's first skill?

[mystic halo]

wait

why are we doing 3 ake skills here

[dense bolt]

Is it confirmed that corrosion doesn't effect physical? Because in testing it does increase physical damage which means it must reduce physical resist as well as arts

[gritty olive]

sadly i devoted my time in doing this sheet so i dont know the "feel"

• i dont watch tutorials anymore so i just ungabunga stuff

[mystic halo]

today I will recommend players to use snowshine

🍷

[rugged kiln]

I thought she was actually good

[mystic halo]

brother Ive some bad news

[drifting quest]

the amount of times ive had to unironically suggest snowshine because people are adamant on running last rite or yvonne and dont have xaihi

[mystic halo]

I mean look

[dry kindle]

it shouldnt

[mystic halo]

the sheet that is pinned getting the idea across in no uncertain terms about those two ice units

is such a fucking godsend for me

because I have to moderate this place

it saves me so much trouble

[drifting quest]

haha you think people read the sheet

thats cute

[mystic halo]

uhh maybe it's timezone diff

but there are some users when I am on

[drifting quest]

even when i tell them to read the sheet they dont read it

[mystic halo]

who just paste the sections

that say don't do x or y

[drifting quest]

they look at the pictures and then wonder why the team is bad

[mystic halo]

maybe the american hours are the demon hours...

[frozen tide]

I was just looking at the pin and it lists deto unit for xai

Should i replace my chivalrlic for it

[mystic halo]

uhhhhhh

any dupes on either of them

I assume no?

[frozen tide]

No

[midnight stirrup]

Honestly DU just straight up better no

[frozen tide]

P0 for both

[mystic halo]

in a lot of situations they are not actually that far apart in performance

[dry kindle]

rite actually does things tho

that isnt fall over and die

[mystic halo]

if you raised chiv already and have a det unit that is lv1

you dont need to rush to replace it

ofc if you have another user of det unit you should

[gritty olive]

when do i use laev's first skill in a rotation starting from 0 energy from all

[mystic halo]

after she eats 3 fire stack

[frozen tide]

I have a 80 det and chic

Chiv

[mystic halo]

and did her qte

[frozen tide]

Both p0 tho

[drifting quest]

today i will use my 0 essence 0 artificed non premium support weapons last rite team

clueless

[frozen tide]

80/80 or 80/90 for both

Don't ask how that happened

[mystic halo]

well it's not the end of the world

you can use both of them on LR!

🙂

[dense bolt]

Corrosion reduces all resistances though including physical resist which is a stat enemies have. Why do physical attacks increase in damage when attacking a target with corrosion

[fickle minnow]

do we know the rough dmg% for getting an operator from 80 to 90?

[mystic halo]

with no dupe det unit is going to be slightly better generally

but it's not a tremendous difference

[midnight stirrup]

Why is pins empty

[mystic halo]

you do need to think about WHEN the buff is being applied, though

[dry kindle]

reduces resists against all elements

[mystic halo]

cause the conditions are different

[midnight stirrup]

[mystic halo]

there is a chance that the coverage on one is better than the other in the specific situation

[dry mason]

Maybe I should wait tmr

For Sheep's weap

[dry kindle]

L

[mystic halo]

what food are you using

[midnight stirrup]

@mystic halo does the atk buff even make it to LR's ult when it triggers after her first strike for 15s

while du procs right before her combo and ult

[dry kindle]

yes

[mystic halo]

^

it's just case by case

Im afraid

[dry kindle]

unless youre slow af on the timeline

[mystic halo]

:xdd

[dry kindle]

like

[dry kindle]

stupid slow

[midnight stirrup]

triangollus enters chat

[mystic halo]

just, like, look at your buffs

I dont think detonation unit is a food

[dry kindle]

you just lose by default there

[midnight stirrup]

TRUE

[gritty olive]

opal so something like this

[mystic halo]

I might be wrong but Im pretty sure that's the case

[gritty olive]

the timeline is correct probably

[mystic halo]

uhh

[dry mason]

Sheep can't apply any art burst

[mystic halo]

ok so here with akekuri what you would do

[dry kindle]

do you not have a stanza

[mystic halo]

I recommend antal for sake of simplicity but ake is fine

[frozen tide]

I think imma run deto since i see healing percent vs intel percent and intel makes my brain feel happier

[dry mason]

oh i have

I didnt notice

[rugged kiln]

Aside from ginseng, is there any other food that is necessary to farm?

[dry mason]

upgrade pot for Stanza?

or keeping 2

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

if youre suffering and dying, run chival. otherwise du is fine

more consistent than chival if u skill issue with the buff

[drifting quest]

the ult gain % one from supports

locked behind a wuling quest idk where

[rugged kiln]

Oh yeah i saw people mention that one, i’ll have a look thanks

[dry kindle]

pot

doesnt stack anyway

[mystic halo]

as an opener without whiffing any autos before pull you might do:
wulf skill > ake/wulf skill > wulf combo(3 stacks on enemy)
lae eats the stacks with heavy, triggers ardelia combo, which pops and triggers lae combo(just before she finishes auto chain), this gives her stack 4 and she can do enhanced skill

that is one cycle

2 teammate skills, one combo, one enhanced skill

[gritty olive]

i just removed wulf skill on the top

[frozen tide]

What does this mean

[gritty olive]

ill return it

[mystic halo]

you can press 2 ake if you want

it's no difference really

[gritty olive]

alr

[midnight stirrup]

Chival procs its atk buff on the first heal you do within Xaihi skill for 15s. If you take too long to get to LR combo/ult, that buff runs out before her big damage can benefit from it.
Detonation Unit procs of Xaihi's combo, which is right before LR combo and ult. (The vulnerability debuff on enemy from DU).

Im saying DU is more consistent, depending on your skill issue.

[gritty olive]

opal splendid but i run into another problem. since the sp is prob incorrect, do i have enough sp to get to double skill again?

[frozen tide]

Ohh ic

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi heals every Final Strike within skill 2 times.

[frozen tide]

Learned a lot today

Thx guys

[gritty olive]

sp at the left is 134.83, but now i got to half of the energy requirement

how would i be able to amass enough sp. do i just wait

[midnight stirrup]

Does that calc take into account perfect dodge SP

[mystic halo]

you are waiting for wulfgard qte anyway

cause you dont want to spend your sp without it being available to trigger(generally)

[drifting quest]

whats the logic on 2 wulf/ake skills

[mystic halo]

there are arcane ways to speed up the 2nd rotation

[drifting quest]

if you do one you can get ard skill

[mystic halo]

with things like wulf antal ake

[outer ermine]

rhod literally died b4 cutscene and it still showed ut to me

[drifting quest]

and you're waiting the same time anyway to enhanced skill

[gritty olive]

i assume dashing = dodge

and it grants you sp

[midnight stirrup]

I see

[gritty olive]

i havent accoutned akekuri stuff, where she gives at most 75% sp reco, and her skills giving 5 sp

[vagrant sparrow]

are you guys mainly buying artificing stuff from the wuling shop i feel like after you have your engraving the tickets are kinda meh for wuling

[midnight stirrup]

Do we know who the loss 6-star weapons are signatures for?

[vagrant sparrow]

is mainly only laeva sig

[midnight stirrup]

Like I know Clannibal is Wulf's

[dense bolt]

Where else is the word elements used to reference arts damage only

[lost herald]

Is artificing chances really this abysmal

holy crap

Dont tell me we have to hit pity each level

[mystic halo]

how are you getting 4 stacks total for eskill from 0 without 3 heat stack on enemy? you can do ard skill and then you sit there with only 3 stacks and have to press for another heat stack to do eskill anyway

if you start with ult it's a different discussion but the entire conversation for the past, like, hour

was related to gaining energy from 0

[dry kindle]

idk where its even mentioned at all ngl 💀

[drifting quest]

oh 0 energy start

oopsie

ignore me

[mystic halo]

just win

[drifting quest]

i wasnt considering it for monument

[mystic halo]

monika was asking about energy gain earlier so I figured you know

I should start with 0 energy timeline

[drifting quest]

i have selective reading issues

[dry kindle]

good job

[drifting quest]

[high finch]

whats set on liefeng support is the best? i'm struggling between swordmancer for extra stagger or aethertech for max art intesity

[mystic halo]

xiranite lol

[high finch]

to ult more often?

[mystic halo]

he can activate the effect

and it's good

[vagrant surge]

What specific laevatain team are you talking about?

[mystic halo]

🙂

pog should be the one stacking intensity

on phys team if you are decently raised

[outer ermine]

mf what how did it still go thru

[dry kindle]

fraud

where kill

[gritty olive]

i got 159 SP

[outer ermine]

it cutscened on ult bruh

[dry kindle]

skill issued

[vagrant surge]

Nice try diddy

[high finch]

i don't have pog rn. i play endmin chen liefeng and ardelia but i will swap ardelia with pog

[mystic halo]

oh that changes things

[high finch]

but yeah i got you, if i swap ardelia to pog i will use xiranite for set buff it seems to be optimal

[mystic halo]

I think chen should take aethertech here no?

hands and 2x disc

with sword chest

wait hang on

[dry kindle]

aether chen wadafak

[mystic halo]

it's good actually

believe it or not

[high finch]

i have this rn and i want to swap lifeng set i crafted shit)

[mystic halo]

ooh yeah that's

hm

[gritty olive]

are two dodges in 12 seconds "reasonable enough"

assuming the dashes are dodges, i just yoinked 15 energy from thin air

[mystic halo]

what level are the chars?

[high finch]

i think in my perfect build i guess i should use xiranite on lifeng and frontier on pog. but won't lifeng personal dmg suffer from xiranite? it has like wrong stats

[mystic halo]

Im trying to figure out if intensity from aethertech gloves is worth here

[high finch]

endmin 80 rest 60

[mystic halo]

what weapon do you hvae on pog

[high finch]

i don't have pog yet(

[mystic halo]

he shouldnt use frontier if he isnt ultra poverty

oh

I forgot

do you have a thermite cutter

[high finch]

yes

it's best wpn from standart case lol

ofc i picked it

[mystic halo]

ok this might sound a bit wack

but you need to run 3x fire set on pog

with this setup

[high finch]

wait why?

[mystic halo]

two pieces of this + the chest

you are intensitymaxxing on him

[quartz flame]

Does the arts intensity math work out to be worth more than the frontier bonus?

[dry kindle]

intensity pog

[mystic halo]

he can easily apply vuln of more than 40%

[high finch]

i invested heavily into surtr team and i kinda regret it. imo physical is so much more fun to play

[mystic halo]

which is IN ITS OWN MULTIPLICATIVE ZONE

it comes after almost everything else is applied

the gains are tremendous

[high finch]

also my lifeng is p1 and i really like that i can apply physical vul without looking at vulnarability stacks

[mystic halo]

late game it is so much better than using the stacks on crush

which doesnt scale that well

and with some effort you can even fit another 3/4 stack crush

into the vuln timer

[high finch]

you mean for fusion set for max art intensity?

[mystic halo]

yep

pog eats the stacks

to apply a massive vuln

it doesnt matter that his own damage is shot in the head

because at high raising levels even with yinglung he is doing at best like 15% of team total dmg

[high finch]

but you can also use this don't you?

[dry kindle]

isnt it damage taken zone

[high finch]

ah nvm

substats are ass

[gritty olive]

opal i got enough energy for a second rot

[mystic halo]

multiplicative is a catch-all term

[gritty olive]

just dodge twice in a 12.5 second period and yorue golden

[mystic halo]

yeah and after two cycles you can ult and start holding down m1

[mystic halo]

notice how it says wearer

not the entire team?

[high finch]

btw isn't to much art intensity bad? like it has diminishing returns?

[mystic halo]

the extra multiplier that pog will apply

is for the entire team

[sharp viper]

Hello my beloved people, for endmin if I want crown it's combo or ult ?

[mystic halo]

whatever you can get from using it on crush or whatever is nothing compared to adding 40% to all of your ults and whatever

[mystic halo]

to an extent yes but it is still very worth it here

it is the best damage physical can deal currently

you dont have to artifice it yet or anything

[real mist]

how much of a difference is laev's sig

[mystic halo]

bp box weapon is like 75% perf while sig is 100%

[kindred sorrel]

why would restarting your account make a difference

[high finch]

okay i hope i will get him in future,so what should i put on lifeng rn? xiranite or aethertech or maybe swordmancer?

[mystic halo]

you need him to do some dmg

so I'd take aethertech chen

[real mist]

maxed potential bp weapon?

[mystic halo]

and sword lifeng

[mystic halo]

about 87%

it's not bad

[mystic halo]

this is kind of shatter tech actually but it should work here as well

[sharp viper]

[gritty olive]

i realized that wulfgard combo is not up by 12.5 seconds. what should i do in the meantime?

[real mist]

considering I got her weapon but no laev, considering of getting her instead (got like 50k red ball anyway)

[mystic halo]

just auto lol

[gritty olive]

lol ok

[mystic halo]

almost every team

has to just stand around and auto sometimes

it's just how it is

[real mist]

what about yvonne without her sig?

[drifting quest]

rossi will save the rot

no downtime

[high finch]

so let's get to conclusion.
endmin is swordmancer
pog(fusion set)
lifeng swordmancer
chen aethertech?

[mystic halo]

with your current setup(no pog) take chen aethertech

[sharp viper]

wait

[mystic halo]

with pog she should go back to 3x swordmancer with aethertech gloves

[sharp viper]

fusion for pog ?

[high finch]

but why chen needs aethertech? for set bonus? like art intensity scales pretty shit with lift isn't it?

[split gust]

do I only need to level up Combo and Ult on support perlica? or also the skill?

[mystic halo]

losing out on agility results in too many losses later on due to how the scaling works

[gritty olive]

200 row sheets

[mystic halo]

aethertech gloves are not perfect

[gritty olive]

[mystic halo]

but setting it up this way is better than the alternative

youre not really using it for intensity, you are using it so you can get a better array of stats

[tight haven]

yvonne without her sig is a little nicer, i don't know the exact dpr compared to it but both navigator and wedge (p0/p0) still allow her to deal over 1m damage during ult

[sharp viper]

Opal Can I ask you few question (for endmin physical team)

[tight haven]

that said having her sig doesnt fix the mechanical issues yvonne struggles with

[high finch]

chen should look like this/?

[real mist]

I guess I'm gonna get laev, don't want her sig to rot

[mystic halo]

that's fine yeah

[real mist]

she seems pretty decent for world exploration

[gritty olive]

would this be normal

[high finch]

or maybe should i swap 1 art intensity piece for phys dmg bonus?

[mystic halo]

then

[gritty olive]

since when shes only spamming N5s, ardelia combo would be bound to happen no?

[tight haven]

if youre only motivated by convenience i would honestly just skip yvonne entirely

[mystic halo]

intensity is very good currently at your level

when you get pog you will probably be higher level as well

[real mist]

something wrong with yvonne?

[mystic halo]

where swordmancer will become better

so it should curve very nicely

this is why I'm advising you to do this

[tight haven]

last rite in every case where yvonne is competent, exceeds her

[lucid flower]

Should i restart again? I have 6 stars that i like but apart from one team i wont be able to get my fav one is apparently useless

[tight haven]

where yvonne doesn't work, last rite does

[mystic halo]

what comp exactly

[real mist]

wait what, i just heard that, you are saying last rite is just better?

[tight haven]

you're currently just investing in categorically inferior cryo dps atm

[sharp viper]

Endmin (mdps) chen pog the last one is ardalia but she is here only for heal provide by her ult

[mystic halo]

lifeng should stay on swordmancer even after you get pog until you have something specific you need to do like trimming medal or something

[tight haven]

yeah yvonne just is not good and very heavily relies on gilberta to function atm

[mystic halo]

only take xiranite for specific situations where you have a goal in mind

[high finch]

so i got this rn

[tight haven]

okay, it's overstating the case to say yvonne isn't good

she's good. but last rite in any case is just better

[high finch]

my lifeng is pretty good on dmg,he has p1 and also 6* 2nd best wpn

[mystic halo]

he should take the same set as chen here

the dmg bonus is not worth attribute loss later

[frozen tide]

Is laev highest single target dps

[mystic halo]

you dont have to switch immediately

[real mist]

both are used mostly for boss killing right? they seem to be meh when there's alot of units going around.

[mystic halo]

but it will be better later

[real mist]

she's aoe

[mystic halo]

but she's also really good at single target lol

[tight haven]

last rite is a little better at aoe than yvonne but yeah

[mystic halo]

last rite is not even necessarily better

[tight haven]

generally they're st

[frozen tide]

Why'd they have to nerf rite

[high finch]

wait i need to pul same set on lifeng rn? the chen one?

[tight haven]

she was pretty silly in beta to be fair

[mystic halo]

yes you should switch him over as well at some point

if you are using sword on him

[mystic halo]

well what is your question

[silent monolith]

Hey I've got a question, if an armorpiece gives normal skill dmg+, does that work on chars that do heat dmg (wolfy/larva)?

[gritty olive]

opal, would it be normal for laevatain to activate ardelia combo when shes just doing N5

[mystic halo]

the differenec between primary and secondary attribute scaling is massive

[tight haven]

a lot of us thought she was actually kind of bad because her rotations were kind of slow but when someone did crack her rots her single-target dpr was... hm

[high finch]

man,can we go to voice and you explain me things,pls? i feel dumb

@mystic halo

[mystic halo]

well yeah when doing heavy you will activate ardelia combo

that's the condition

there arent voice channels currently

[tight haven]

final strike on enemy without phys stat/arts inflict

[mystic halo]

and it's hard to say when there will be

[tight haven]

which is always on laev when its heat inflict

[gritty olive]

i will activate, but i shouldnt pop it correct?

[frozen tide]

If that heat dmg is from skill yeah

[mystic halo]

well activating it applies corrosion which activates lae qte

which is what you want

there are reasons to delay it sometimes

but rarely will you just not press it

[gritty olive]

because currently

[tight haven]

yeah ardelia qte and wulf ult are basically your on-demand laev qte tools

[gritty olive]

[high finch]

so i just copy chen's build to lifeng for now cause of low lvl and swap it later to swordmancer? @mystic halo

[mystic halo]

no no

[sharp viper]

I'm using this gear do you see a better upgrade ?

for the combo, the combo I found don't use ardalia so she is here only for the ultimate, so do you have a suggestion for bench her and keep a sustainer or the other option it's to luck Ember ?

[mystic halo]

later, when you are more levelled

[high finch]

so for now it's fine?

[mystic halo]

also give this set to lifeng

it's ok for now yes

but you should switch eventually

would you like me to explain why the attributes work out better here

[high finch]

the only problem is i kinda want fulltime pieces so i can do artificing later

[mystic halo]

if the pieces share any stats

you can also use them as artificing ofdder

besides, 3 or 4 pieces of gear is nothing in the grand scheme of things for artificing

[silent monolith]

Ok thanks, idk why they added the "normal" since it can be confused with physical

[mystic halo]

you're going to burn more than 100 pieces easily for one character

[frozen tide]

Where does it even say normal skill

[real mist]

can you show me this rotation, I do have last rite

[frozen tide]

I don't remember seeing that wording in game

[tight haven]

artificing isn't a meaningfully time-pressured activity, you can just stock up on artificing cores

[real mist]

like is there a video for it?

[tight haven]

i am having breakfast and don't want to go looking for a comparison video but i'm sure they're somewhere on bili

[quartz flame]

We’re going to have to replace gear anyway at some point when they add new materials, probably not worth it to invest in artificing for a while

[high finch]

so. rn i just give lifeng 3 swordmancer with aethertech gloves?

[mystic halo]

you certainly could

[silent monolith]

Here on this armorpiece, it's from a website not sure what it says in game

[mystic halo]

you will switch over to it at some point anyway

[frozen tide]

Oh its probs either combo skill or battle skill in game

Shit translation me suspects

[drifting quest]

normal skill is battle skill

[mystic halo]

this is really awkward. with no da pan here your SP is very tight and you generally will have some difficulties pressing ard skill, so switching to ember here is not actually the worst thing you could do

I cant believe Im saying this

[drifting quest]

the elusive akekuri

[mystic halo]

if you were on da pan ardelia here would be decently useful outside of just healing

you could

yeah

[sharp viper]

yes but I don't have Ember 🥲 so she stay juste for ultimate heal

[high finch]

this is correct? should i keep bonecrusher mask on endmin with dmg against staggered?

[mystic halo]

oh the way you worded it

uhhhh

[icy ginkgo]

could be higher

[frozen tide]

Is ember ever optimal

What is bros name

[drifting quest]

there's official merch

[sharp viper]

and I what I found dan pan is the switch of endmin and I want to play endmin

[silent monolith]

Tyty

[drifting quest]

given out at an event or something

[mystic halo]

in this case then it's keeping her on or akekuri

sp is good

[sharp viper]

sustainless I'm akward of that

[mystic halo]

keep her on then

it's not like those 3 cant play

[frozen tide]

Why am i being convinced this cannot be true

[drifting quest]

i assure you it is

[sharp viper]

do I need to swap pog build ?

[drifting quest]

the lore

[icy ginkgo]

mannn this is impossible with avywenna team

[frozen tide]

All you need is da pan

[tight haven]

the pros and cons of yvonne vs. lr are sort of:

• yvonne really really really likes having gilberta a lot; lr's team is tight but consists of mostly 5☆/free ops
• lr is extremely signature-dependent, i think the next best weapon is sundered prince which falls behind by a margin of ~18%; yvonne has better non-sig options
• lr's dpr in single-target is abjectly superior to yvonne's; i see people saying this is not the case but since cbt2 and definitely on release i've only seen evidence to the contrary. yvonne is also just not good in aoe situations

[drifting quest]

has his name always been rhodagn

[gritty olive]

300 energy now

big w

[mystic halo]

this is ok, but you actually should switch endmin over to the same set as lifeng later(because, again, the attributes)

[drifting quest]

it has

[mystic halo]

if you want to go in on stagger dmg

you should use this

[high finch]

okay i can do it now i guess

[mystic halo]

if both endmin and chen are on swordmancer you should prep xiranite for lifeng

[gritty olive]

after i ult with laev, do i not use her skill ever in the 15 second entirety?

[tight haven]

i've been looking for an electric team trim too

[mystic halo]

no you should use it

[tight haven]

i haven't found one yet

[mystic halo]

it's enhanecd in her ult

[drifting quest]

2 skills ideally, 1 normally

[tight haven]

would be kinda sad if they just can't really do it without minmaxing rn

[mystic halo]

it's big multiplier button

[icy ginkgo]

1 avywellion dmg

[tight haven]

hell yeah

[static valley]

is surtr's ebatk considered ult damage?

[gritty olive]

no

[tight haven]

avy's dpr and extreme positioning dependency makes it seem kind of impossible to trim triagg and maggy no?

[tight haven]

its considered basic attack damage only

[drifting quest]

the multiplier is tied to ult levels but the damage type is basic attack

[tight haven]

yeah

[gritty olive]

so its normal for her other teammates to not get their ults before her

[tight haven]

basic attack skill levels do not contribute to her ebatk damage

you will do the same damage on basics during ult at lv1 batk and mastery 3 batk

[icy ginkgo]

you deal 1 avywellion dmg in 5 seconds and then 0 for the next minute

[sharp viper]

@mystic halo and last question, which ability combat I need to crown first for endmin combo or ult ?

[high finch]

@mystic halo also is this fine build? my main team

[gritty olive]

dont use slab for surtr ig

[dry mason]

[gritty olive]

id also recc akekuri first over antal but idk

[outer ermine]

[high finch]

why?

[icy ginkgo]

wait isnt fortifying infusion better than this?

[high finch]

i think i should but i need resources to lvl her cause i invested antal

[mystic halo]

basically, it makes it significantly harder to get your ult, and doesn't even do more damage

there is no reason to use it... ever, essentially

[high finch]

so i swap to akeruri and use this instead?

[mystic halo]

because of how the atk calculation in this game works, this 180 is also multiplied by stuff like attribute bonuses

antal is a good unit but dont use him for daily(generally)

he is for single target

[upbeat isle]

Armor set for akekuri anyone?

[mystic halo]

also wulfgard shouldn't really use fire set

[high finch]

which one should i give him?

[mystic halo]

if you want him to do dmg take bonecrusher, if not ult charge%

and also when it he is p5

[drifting quest]

either frontier or all in on ult gain

[mystic halo]

which you are only one copy from

he should use ult charge set

[drifting quest]

just like wulfgard there isnt really a ton of breakpoint calcs for her yet, if any

[high finch]

xiranite?

[mystic halo]

which is this

once he is p5

just put it on and forget

he is here purely for the application and nothing else

you dont need him to do any real dmg

[high finch]

i kinda only want him to apply status and buff with his signature

[mystic halo]

well you can still do that

his stats have no bearing on what the weapon's effect is

[high finch]

this is correct set on surt?

[mystic halo]

you rarely get to actually activate clannibal because of how the team rotates

this is good yes

[worthy osprey]

I'm using this on Laevatain

55% attack perm rather than 50% heat for 10 seconds

the 55% also buff her ult

[high finch]

and akeruri goes frontier with thermite cutter?

[gritty olive]

agenda posting

[tight haven]

frontier tubes and chest with xiranite arms

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

and thermite yeah

obj eol is generally worse because the team heavily oversaturates on dmg%

[high finch]

man,i need some deeper understanding of how stats work and gear building

[drifting quest]

i love #REF! damage, really insane how much output it is

[lime bear]

should my 2nd team be physical with Lifeng/Pog/Panda/Chen or Last Rite team

[drifting quest]

are you willing to sell your soul to spend month(s) in the mines for last rite

[high finch]

eol?

[lime bear]

the weapon selection between Thermite Cutter for Pog and Sundered Prince for LR

smh

[tight haven]

edge if lightness

[drifting quest]

sundered isnt good (enough) for last rite

[tight haven]

its a sword

[drifting quest]

you really want sig

[tight haven]

yeah its about 18% worse

[lime bear]

ok Phys team it is

[tight haven]

which in lr's case is quite the pain point

[sharp viper]

[lime bear]

but who to hyperinvest tho

it isnt quite like Laeva hypercarry right

[drifting quest]

dont worry im sure one of the 6 units in the next 2 patches is definitely going to unbrick cryo

what do you mean 2/3rds are already basically confirmed not cryo

[fluid oxide]

should we artifice gear now

[lime bear]

I already have 3/3 for Laevatain essence so just run regular essence farm without tix right

[high finch]

is there some document with ppl calculating gear and basic knowledge about stats and gear?

[sharp viper]

@mystic halo for endmen which attribute do you recommend to crown ?

[drifting quest]

unless you know exactly what you want and why out of artificing its got good potential for you to waste resources. buy and craft the materials still but stockpile them

[drifting quest]

YOOOOOOO

#VALUE! DAMAGE?

BEST TEAM

[gritty olive]

360k in 45 seconds seems too low?

[mystic halo]

combo first

[lime bear]

so good that the damage is uncountable

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

360k/min is defintiely low

or even calling it 400k/min

[gritty olive]

almost half a mil per min

[sharp viper]

for pog which gear ?

[gritty olive]

idk man im not taking sarcasm seriously rn if youre just going to beat around the bush im not enjoying it

[static valley]

what armor piece does surtr use

[drifting quest]

laev can hit 400k in one skill

it wasnt sarcasm

[high finch]

it's your? or it's like this channel theorycrafting document?

[gritty olive]

this is the ultbuffed skill damage but "unbuffed"

[drifting quest]

unbuffed makes sense

[gritty olive]

ill account buffs later

[drifting quest]

if its just laev rawdogging 400k/min it makes sense

[gritty olive]

long ass rotation

i cant squeeze it

[gritty olive]

its mine

[high finch]

man,endmin is so good,i'm scared what's he gonna do at p5

[drifting quest]

the evil tangtang premium upgrade:

[sharp viper]

@mystic halo which damage it's originium crystals ?

[carmine ether]

What weapon is best for akekuri in laevatin team?

[drifting quest]

thermite cutter

not even close

no thermite then run obj

[carmine ether]

Aight

[high finch]

is there a document or video guide of how stats work and scale? @mystic halo

[carmine ether]

Was wondering cause thermite cutter is will boost and she doesn't main Will

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.6ugp2bwnvloa

[drifting quest]

the atk buff is

very strong

[gritty olive]

the atk buff goes to the "normal" atk buffs no?

[mystic halo]

bro icl I dont know

[gritty olive]

it should be already saturated by the main + sub attributes

300% atk buff already for someone like madame surts

[sharp viper]

and for finish : the premium tea endmen it's endmin pog chen lifeng in sustainless and endmen pog chen ember in sustain ?

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBKbHIHxids

its so over ISbros

[mystic halo]

former

[gritty olive]

mfw ed3 is harder than ed4

[mystic halo]

ok so the thing is

because is#6 gives you 50 million resources

in everything

it still isnt hard

[drifting quest]

first time i saw the enhanced ed5

[gritty olive]

"isnt hard"

[mystic halo]

no matter how fked up the stage is

[drifting quest]

clueless

[gritty olive]

do it without ed4

[mystic halo]

no

[drifting quest]

give it a look

[mystic halo]

Im completely serious

I did it on my first try at 18

[gritty olive]

yeah i know, lamp + hand addition

[mystic halo]

the roguelike is still fundamentally broken in every single way

even if you dont use eternal motion enegine

you will just end up with a million resources out of nowehre

[gritty olive]

but in is no one cares about is5 ed135 at d16

[mystic halo]

i mean #5 is like

[gritty olive]

cn just had a t3 egg only ed245 tourney

[mystic halo]

the variety in squad-specific performance is so gigantic it's not even funny

[gritty olive]

so might as well go the extra mile and do ed235 with the "most" debuffs

[drifting quest]

stage looks pretty rough even for the full relic lineup

raw enemy count things

[mystic halo]

I played defender/supporter because I was just unwell, apparently

and the history of that team in #5

could fill an encyclopedia

[gritty olive]

angelina momento

[mystic halo]

did you know

[gritty olive]

i havent played def sup. i only know GVG

[mystic halo]

we were picking up BOBBING and AURORA every run at one point?

[gritty olive]

anthing else im gonna explode in is5

[mystic halo]

fucking

BOBBING

it's so unserious man

[gritty olive]

i played is5 during dlc2 so i cant relate

lamp SUH2A + m3

[drifting quest]

i miss prelamp is5

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099414735193129030/1436236987592871936/IMG_6136.gif

how does the dot from laev skill work

[drifting quest]

as in the non enhanced skill or

combustion

[gritty olive]

combustion

[dawn patrol]

do you only get the trimmed medal if you claim the rewards or something

[gritty olive]

trim medals is for clear, not claim

[drifting quest]

no it just happens

[dawn patrol]

huh

odd

[dawn patrol]

i'm pretty sure that was under 4 mins

[drifting quest]

check the medal

it'll tell you

[dawn patrol]

where do i check medals again

[dry mason]

@manic blade

[drifting quest]

profile > path of glory

[dawn patrol]

oh rhodagn is 2m

damn

[dawn patrol]

i'm like 43 seconds off i'm cooked

[gritty olive]

so for selfinflicted reactions, we dont care about infliction stacks?

[drifting quest]

force combustion should be just 1 stack

[sharp viper]

how you get your 3 in the bottom

[dry mason]

Kill Marbel in 4 mins

[sharp viper]

lvl 90 ?

[dry mason]

yes

only 90 gives you medal

[sharp viper]

Mmmh not sure if Endmen can do that

[drifting quest]

endmin can

shatter has done all 3 so every team can do all 3

[sharp viper]

which team

[drifting quest]

either also do shatter and just win every alesh gamble or do normal phys but endmin over da pan

[sharp viper]

good to know I'll try

[sharp viper]

the 3 it's kill each boss in less than 4 min ?

[kindred sorrel]

damn, maybe i should have tried harder when i did it a few days ago

[dry mason]

Rhodagn in 2 mins, the others in 4mins

[sharp viper]

Ok thanks I'll try

[dawn patrol]

am i just bad at the game then 💔

[mystic halo]

your team might just have to be 20 levels higher than some others to do it

🌚

[dawn patrol]

nobody's even close to max except lifeng

chen and da pan have like 2k atk LOL

[outer ermine]

what is this fraudulent behavior

[tight haven]

no oneshot

[outer ermine]

i havent seen a post nerf combo kill yet so its still fair

i only crit 900k on mobile i swear

[civic wolf]

lifeng pog and chen combat skill leveling prio?

[dawn patrol]

maybe i should've just invested in last rite instead of trying to play phys

[foggy dove]

[civic wolf]

i wish i wasn't stuck to monophys until i was able to softpity Yvonne...

[outer ermine]

do not get baited by that lol

[civic wolf]

monophys is expensive af

[dawn patrol]

i don't even have pog

i have no sp gen

[civic wolf]

i have pog lifeng

i just

havent leveled endmin at all

[dry mason]

LR > Lae?

[dawn patrol]

what do i do if i don't have pog do i just stop trying

[civic wolf]

do u just suffer if you end up with Ember as your first 6* 💀

[heavy fossil]

does arclight apply just electric infliction or also electrification?

[gritty olive]

@mystic halo can you give me a simple rotation for surtr to check damage? ill let other people conduct the combo

so like say something like ake e -> wulf c -> ake e -> surtr n5 -> ardelia c -> surtr c -> surtr qn5e

[dawn patrol]

i just want to play lifeng man i think he's cool

[gritty olive]

i can make the person prefarm surtrs energy beforehand

[heavy fossil]

same except I don’t have him (I got pog instead)

[dawn patrol]

i have lifeng but no pog

[outer ermine]

always has been

[heavy fossil]

can we like, share pls?

[dawn patrol]

can't wait for someone else to come out that i like more so i have to build a whole new team

[drifting quest]

i mean
based on what we can predict
phys: drops da pan for tangtang
fire: drops akekuri for rossi
electric: drops avywenna or perlica (and the 4th flex slot) for mi fu and fangyi
cryo: hopes and prays one of the last 2 is actually cryo
nature: mimimi

end of 1.2

1.3+ who knows

[swift tundra]

Anyone going for tide chest, xiranite gloves, 2x redeemer's seal build on Laevatain? Allegedly at max artificing it can allow you to Ult in 1 cycle instead of 2. Also, Surtr will have nearly 6k atk. Just not sure if it will be a overall dps loss losing all the DMG bonuses from hot works.

[lyric stream]

My goat bunny avywenna will never disappear

[drifting quest]

avywenna is the most replaceable as a pure dps

[drifting quest]

several people here have it yeah

we dont know if its better or worse yet

not enough testing to compare

both clear

[sharp viper]

After endmin who is better to upgrade chen or pog ?

[swift tundra]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the numbers myself. Don't want to sink my resources until then.

[mystic halo]

I have charge set complete already and it's certainly very good, also improves the daily gameplay experience significantly

but ofc it is impossible to tell which will be better down the line

[gritty olive]

wuling money and ciranite components are quickly replenishable

its fine to spend some

[swift tundra]

The articing tickets tho...

[astral walrus]

Pog. Dudes got a hell of a hog

[dense bolt]

I originally searched for this and found the people asking if corrosion effected physical resistance. The answers that were given was that it did not. I tested this and this is not true. Corrosion reduces all resistances including physical. I tested this with auto attacks with no buffs on a boss in which the physical auto attacks did more with corrosion and even more as the corrosion ticked for more resistance reduction. Would there be any other explanation?

[mystic halo]

with some effort you are making 700-800k a day in wuling with no market sale

so it's really not so bad

[vagrant sparrow]

and what is that effort

[mystic halo]

refresh to take others' wuling depot order

xd

[frozen tide]

The depot order thingy is very hard during normal hours i find

I can only ever find ones in degen hrs

And even that's been getting more scarce

[high finch]

i dmed you a question,can you answer pls if not busy?

[swift tundra]

Not sure about laeva's personal DMG with that build, but it might be a game changer when it comes to the SP management of the entire team.

[drifting quest]

personal damage goes down for more ult uptime

there's the argument that more ults means more damage given how tied her damage is to ult

and there's the idea that something like umbral monument is 0 energy start

so the faster you can ult the better

[swift tundra]

Along with skipping 2nd rotation, not having to spend an extra 200 SP might open up other team possibilities.

I never checked, but is laeva's Ult cooldown locked during her Ult?

[drifting quest]

you cant gen energy until it ends

same for cooldown

doesnt start till ult ends

[kindred sorrel]

i run this, but with hot gloves instead of xiranite because p4+

only needs +2 and +3 on the seals ultimate gain efficiency i think, to hit 176.5% for the breakpoint

which is enough to ult with 2 party skills, 1 enhanced laeva skill, and a laeva combo

i think 2/2/1 or 2/2/2 on seal/seal/chest might be enough to hit breakpoint too

which saves you having to go +3 on a seal

[drifting quest]

p0 breakpoint is 208%

unless the math has changed

[neat snow]

Can someone share me the gear for p5 wulf please

[drifting quest]

redeemer seal build
2 redeemer seal
xiranite t1 gloves
tide fall light armour

the ult gain might be overkill i havent seen anyone post math on it yet

the gains to go something else are likely not that large though

[neat snow]

Thank you

[drifting quest]

immediate correction

lynx gloves have usable stats over xiranite

if you have crafted its like nothingburger amount of difference

but if you havent then its a minmax change

[swift tundra]

I'm assuming at p0 you need +3 on ultimate gain efficiency on all gear pieces to achieve this breakpoint?

[terse furnace]

Do we know if susceptibility debuffs stack? E.g. Ardelia+Gilberta

[drifting quest]

all 4 pieces need maxing

[terse furnace]

oh hi shuo, I'm still coping about Cryo Yvonne

[drifting quest]

last i heard the most recent one takes effect

[terse furnace]

Noted, so Ardelia+Gilb would be okay as long as you don't overlap the debuffs

[drifting quest]

you can alternate their suscepts for near infinite uptime

esp for someone like yvonne it works

[terse furnace]

This is effectively the team I'm playing around with, with the 4th slot being flex for Perlica or Ardelia. I was just debating which of the two would be better

[drifting quest]

other teams tend to prefer stacking different buff types

you can bring xaihi back

[terse furnace]

Nah, you don't want to run Xaihi with Gilb

[drifting quest]

you just never mix and match infliction stacks

[dry mason]

@valid zealot

[drifting quest]

when gilb ult is down > xaihi to stack

when gilb ult is up > gilb skill combo ult

[terse furnace]

Xaihi gives one stack every 2 combo rotations, the cryo infliction would be incredibly slow and I'd have to play around it

[valid zealot]

sup

[swift tundra]

Hmmm. I'm not sure if this 1 cycle Ult build is worth it for laeva if there's 10 sec cd after Ult. Feels like that's enough time to get the energy back in a regular 2 enhanced battle skill rotation.

[drifting quest]

yes its not good but its the consequences of cryo being bad

[dry mason]

https://youtu.be/PFFdxErKZ6k?si=RBMUiVESTtjNrmit

[drifting quest]

if you're getting 2 rots in 10s im scared at how you're playing

[valid zealot]

Weirdge

[midnight stirrup]

Where is the doc with the teams

Pins doesnt show anything

[terse furnace]

I spoke to some folks last night and we discussed how Fluorite is "okay" if you use her specifically by holding her ult when her combo is up and ulting when her combo is down

Not a perfect solution but that'll definitely make it easier to hit 3 stacks on Yvonne

[drifting quest]

pinned in team build

[midnight stirrup]

Oh ty

[drifting quest]

if you're on no cryo you can use skill too because all you have is nature inflictions

[swift tundra]

If skills line up perfectly. You can exit Ult state with full stacks and instantly use 1 enhanced battle skill, so only 1 rotation should be needed for the 2nd enhanced skill and you can Ult again. Only thing that is tight is SP management.

[drifting quest]

both gilb and fluor have slow ass skills though

[drifting quest]

not using the 4melting flame skill in ult is giga grief though

its your biggest damage source

[tender zephyr]

do u save ake ult for surtr shiny skill instead for building the shiny skill of surtr since it is SP gen

is the focus dmg buff worth it

[swift tundra]

You should be able to earn enough stacks for 2 skills during Ult tho? 1 to use during Ult and 1 to save afterwards? Unless you mean using both during Ult?

[drifting quest]

yes

2 enhanced skill ult is your ideal

[terse furnace]

I imagine the comp's rotation goes something like:

Gilb Battle/Ult > Fluorite Battle > Fluorite Combo/ult > Yvonne basic rotation 1-2x (idk what the SP would be at) > skip Perlica Combo > Yvonne Battle > Yvonne FS > Gilb+Perlica+Yvonne Combo > Yvonne FS > Yvonne ult if available

[swift tundra]

Hmmm. I feel like if you have wulfguard p5 and mix in his Ult combo skill reset to line up perfectly with laeva's 9s combo skill cooldown, you can minmax the rotations even further to gain stacks, not sure how that rotation would work tho.

[terse furnace]

Gilb's combo is 20 seconds, that should be more than enough time for Yvonne to fully channel her ult Probably. I can also use Gilb's ult for nature infliction

[drifting quest]

the main point is that if you're trying to hold a full melting flame stack for after ult you're gutting your dpr to the point that you're not actually doing more damage than the 1rot ult build is, in all likelihood

[terse furnace]

It does kinda fucking suck that this rotation wouldn't work unless you had 2 SP tho. We could supplement Gilb's battle with her ult for nature infliction tho

[tawny ginkgo]

what set do you want to even use for pog during endgame , frontier for SP cooldown and team wide damage buff or something else

[mystic halo]

this is already optimal in some speed kills

so it absolutely is practical

it's worth keeping up the back pocket

[drifting quest]

its one of those things where you're doing it in exact cases you preplanned for though

not general gameplay

same as gilb recs on teams

[swift tundra]

Great for SP management too. Can't imagine trying to squeeze in sp for 2 full rotations.

[mystic halo]

yeah but every single case of "endgame" that exists

are cases we can preplan for

[drifting quest]

it'd be exhaustive to list it every 'but actually if you do this then its fine'

[mystic halo]

we dont have like high difficulty roguelike or some such

[drifting quest]

but i can concede i am being a bit one dimensional

[mystic halo]

It is obviously not going to be like

[drifting quest]

habit formed

[mystic halo]

an active goal you are going for at all times

but it is not impractical and has use cases

besides even after the nerf your enhanced skill is still not that much % of your total damage during ult

[terse furnace]

What exactly is this habit? lmao

[fickle owl]

🫄🥀

[drifting quest]

being 1d in what i say because the alternative is niche and not applicable for general cases

it got annoying having to write paragraphs for every team comp

[terse furnace]

lmao meanwhile my combo notation I sent earlier regarding Yvonne's nature comp

[sudden lichen]

alright, since I'm sure a number of people don't get it yet.
Credit shop is your primary means of arsenal tickets aside pulling.
If you do the credit income properly, you'll get enough for 2 rerolls and buying any arsenal/oro currency showing up. Because of the rerolls, the chances to have a day with 0 currency is near 0. We'll compensate the chance by also removing chances to get more than 2 in a day, and only consider you get 2 half the time.

You get 20 arsenal tickets per buy, meaning you get very broadly that amount per day, if you apply that to a 10 pull, that means 90 days or 3 months to have a 10 pull SOLELY through the credit store. However, considering the significant chance of multiples, that brings you closer to 30 per day, and that makes 2 months. If you factor in the 400 from weekly, you reach 46 days, so 1.5 months for an arsenal 10 pull exclusively through credit store + weekly.

Do NOT sleep on the credit store. Really

[drifting quest]

240/week is 75 weeks

[tender zephyr]

i thought u should never use surtr skill except for shiny so u keep using it then sometimes ake? instead of always ake then shiny surtr skill

[drifting quest]

where's the extra 300 arsenal a week from

weekly routine is only 100

[sudden lichen]

wtf, it's 100 per week

[drifting quest]

yeah lmao

[sudden lichen]

the credit store is 30 per day

[drifting quest]

i feel like ive definitely have 20

[dry mason]

The beginning I use it to get Link buff

The other times I have to be flexible like stopping boss, breaking stagger bar

Before she runs away

[drifting quest]

20/day, 7 days/week
140/week
100 from weekly routine
8.25 weeks to get 1 draw
74.25 weeks to guarantee a weapon

still better than the 3 years from weekly routine alone, but it's still OVER A YEAR to guarantee

[dry mason]

This is kinda situational

[tight haven]

i really hope credit store isn't meant to be our secondary arsenal income

because jesus christ

[drifting quest]

the last copium is events are a semi decent source

[outer ermine]

havent even seen someone else do rotations in dijang

and evrryones keeping clue to themselves unless dupe

mfs

[mystic halo]

most people dont even have enough characters

[drifting quest]

^^

[mystic halo]

to have 3 working chars in all rooms

at all times

regardless of whatever skill they may have

[dry mason]

Same

[outer ermine]

u can forgo 1 cc slot w 22

[dry mason]

Prob only upgrade units provide 2 same skills for a room

[drifting quest]

cc is trust farm spot so id rather bench one from the farming room

[dry mason]

[outer ermine]

unless u wanna 6/6/6/6 w early swap backs

[tight haven]

i spent all my aic quota rounding out my dijiang

took me a very significant amount of resources but all my rooms are occupied now

[outer ermine]

tempted to buy gifts ngl but still have essence tix

[sudden lichen]

My point that it's still a significant boost to income, even though I hope it's not the only one along pulls

because way too many people don't even realize how much it can give you

[drifting quest]

its still basically nothing lmao

if you're pulling its gonna be like

5% at best over weeks of doing it

[kindred sorrel]

over 2 months to get a single draw ☠️

[tight haven]

i mean yeah the point stands

do your clue exchanges, assist friends

transfer your deliveries

[drifting quest]

most days i get to buy out most of the store anyway

[sudden lichen]

buy out?

[drifting quest]

i dont tend to bother refreshing

[sudden lichen]

lmao what

[drifting quest]

happens most days

[sudden lichen]

you can get 2x to 3x the amount of daily income by refreshing

I'm shocked you're saying you don't refresh

[drifting quest]

i dont put that much effort into min maxing

im not chasing sigs for standards

the only thing id consider grabbing is therm cutter because i griefed my box

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

by pulling on banners i can get the sigs for limited

[outer ermine]

ohforgot to collect poop

[tight haven]

there wasnt a box with thermite in it was there

[drifting quest]

like now that i know rossi is latest 1.2 im skipping till she comes

[tight haven]

the curated supply doesnt have thermite in it

[drifting quest]

maybe if i somehow sack pog ill grab tangtang

[drifting quest]

beginner banner one

had therm

[tight haven]

oh that one lol

[kindred sorrel]

i maxed out my red woman so i'll probably not bother with any future characters for quite a while

maybe that guaranteed weapon in 3 years might come in handy

[dry mason]

Need new character can help building heat stacks faster for Lae

[drifting quest]

gilb as much as id like to get is way less integral
yvonne i lost to on laev banner
mi fu and fangyi duo i cant afford, maybe if mi fu does end up being fire for some reason i consider
tangtang i dont own pog and have no way to get him anytime soon so bricked phys
rossi naturally will grab for laev
the other 2 no clue on elements for so useless to speculate

[dry mason]

[kindred sorrel]

is rossi going to be fire?

[dry mason]

No idea

[kindred sorrel]

i'll probably pull on whatever can support laeva

otherwise im skipping

unless its an ines or shu reconvener

[drifting quest]

her vfx has all been red

[sharp viper]

Pog can have good damage if we max him in mc team ?

[drifting quest]

plus the idea of wulfgard + rossi on the team together

[swift tundra]

I'll pull on whatever can generate stacks (heat, cyro, vulnerability) on a combo skill with easy conditions. Those seem to be the most valuable for team building atm.

[mystic halo]

6* wulfgard

exact same unit except he applies a single buff and can use xiranite

top 3 unit

[drifting quest]

if its not fire coded then idk what it is

[tight haven]

shes nature actually

[drifting quest]

i love how the quality vanishes

[tight haven]

👍

and somehow makes fluorite + gilb + ardelia a bis comp

[drifting quest]

real

[mystic halo]

I personally have a feeling it's going to be fire but one or two phys effects are jammed in there for no particular reason

[tight haven]

reverse akekuri

[drifting quest]

i mean mi fu is probably electric x fire

[mystic halo]

I think that's the most likely

[tight haven]

or i guess

[drifting quest]

so phys x fire rossi wouldnt be a shock

[tender zephyr]

looks electricity

[tight haven]

reverse ember(?)

[mystic halo]

ember but awesome

[drifting quest]

ember but usable

[kindred sorrel]

clearly cryo

im colour blind

[mystic halo]

I mean all they need to do

[tight haven]

but yeah i do hope future units arent mostly mono elem

[mystic halo]

is to make her fastest at running in openworld

[tight haven]

i think buffing existing teams is kinda lame

[mystic halo]

and everyone pulls

[drifting quest]

i was about to say

the yelan sprint skill buff

[lime bear]

I have everything raahhh and confused what to build

[tight haven]

does gilbertas little broom sprint make her faster than anyone else

[lime bear]

I prob won't do anything til actual endgame with 2 teams required

[kindred sorrel]

give us dragon lady and let us fly in the overworld with her

[lime bear]

if it's by 1.1 and Fangyi comes I'll build her instead

Perlicka Antal Ardelia trust

no need for Mi Fu

[mystic halo]

gilb dash is a bit more stam efficient over distances but that's it

[drifting quest]

1.1 tangtang mifu fangyi
1.2 rossi and the other 2

is the likely order

[mystic halo]

unless if they buffed it for release

[thorn shore]

lycia gonna be crazy

i hope shes a SP gen

[drifting quest]

id expect the last 2 are both cryo

1.3 nature stuff

[mystic halo]

surely...

[tight haven]

okay yeah no

gilberta isnt faster

she is cooler though

[drifting quest]

sankta male is a support or something

[mystic halo]

her full pot vfx I love

[drifting quest]

then we get a vg and support for cryo

[thorn shore]

gilberta best looking char i need her

[tight haven]

sankta dude will save yvonne

trust in the process

[thorn shore]

just hope tangtang isnt a nature main dps so gilberta havers arent stuck

[drifting quest]

whenever cryo infliction stacks are consumed restack the same amount

[thorn shore]

with playing tangtang

[lime bear]

1.1 2 6* trust and Tangtang is 5* 🥺

[drifting quest]

unless they're 5*'s then its 3 6's a patch lmao

[outer ermine]

yvonne story

[lime bear]

haven't started it

[drifting quest]

the income is really not nice

[lime bear]

I'm gonna do it

[drifting quest]

for the rate of character releases

[thorn shore]

deadass kick tangtang down a star and replace her with rossi

nobody wants a tangtang banner

[outer ermine]

yes lvl50 bp w this

[lime bear]

Rossi in Wuling patch prob not gonna work lmfao

[outer ermine]

[lime bear]

wait til 1.2 and we get to Siracusa Talos

or some shi

[thorn shore]

act like i care, as long as its not tangtang

[drifting quest]

lappland reconvener

[lime bear]

Wisadel reconvener

[thorn shore]

mu fi aint someone i look forward too but tangtang i actively despise

[lime bear]

trust

[thorn shore]

zhuang is must pull

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wisadel-waltuh-w-walter-arknights-gif-3812010922944326354

[lime bear]

usualy Mi Fu propaganda

[lime bear]

Mlynar reconvener....

[summer flicker]

i wonder if yvonne gilb xaihi ardelia team can function

[drifting quest]

yes

its the only way yvonne is playable

[summer flicker]

hope for a ice/nature sp coming soon

[drifting quest]

usually ard is swapped for someone else

perlica typically

[lime bear]

I'm pretty sure some form of Kjera is reconvener at the Krejag Talos

[drifting quest]

and you hope to kill before yvonne bricks

[lime bear]

I forgot what's the name

Kjreagstar or something

[drifting quest]

kjera herself would still be alive

she's a feranmut

[summer flicker]

lmaoo, so this team caant possibly go to 2nd rot

[drifting quest]

can yes

but you dont want it to

last rite but worse

[lime bear]

yes but we dk if she's also in Talos

probably some part of the Feranmut

[drifting quest]

its unlikely she is

she's mostly tied to physical kjera location on terra

and by the time things go wrong on terra the aethergate is broken too

unless that got retconned

[summer flicker]

surely ice/nature sp vanguard incoming

[mystic halo]

fluorite but usable??

holy...

[lime bear]

isn't some form of Sui Feranmut is there within HAS somewhere

[tight haven]

zhuangs def gonna be my next p5

[lime bear]

Fangyi mentioned it

[drifting quest]

not necessarily