aic-factory

[shadow void]

tho making 116k Jade Gourds in the final 13 is gonna drain alot

[sterile stratus]

tang2 what r u doin

[craggy oyster]

1 day for me

[meager stream]

.tangtang

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468993592369352764/TangtangLeak.jpg?ex=69860a65&is=6984b8e5&hm=7c816cf47d0101a3ed8ecb738238d99a8305443de743054c599138f96032c517

[small creek]

yippee

[lofty lodge]

Stocking up SC battery and Hetonite part. Gonna sell all when outpost upgrade unlocked.

[meager stream]

.tangtang2

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[sterile stratus]

i'll have to spend 5-15 minutes just transporting scw which i would NOT do

can't we have bigger depot 🥀

[shadow void]

the price i'll have to pay to make 116k in 13 hours ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[meager stream]

we need much ore & cuprium mining spots

[sterile stratus]

my scw is almost cap now smh

[craggy oyster]

we need more thing to buy, and more thing to sell

[wise notch]

The gourd made SCW cap out way too fast

[meager stream]

more forgesky too

[sterile stratus]

the economy must grow

[meager stream]

economy ❌ factory ✅

[sterile stratus]

what about faster forge sky instead of more

[sterile stratus]

is bro crafting everything for the depot

[craggy oyster]

I need 20m perlifumo statue to show on my Dijiang

[craggy oyster]

a heaven forge

[wise notch]

Faster forge of the sky would be better. Copy and pasting the same modular forge of the sky blueprint is space consuming. 48x12

[sterile stratus]

forge of the heaven

[storm garnet]

weird, i had in my mind sc valley had worse bill value than its ore cost, but it's a 30/25 ratio actually. i guess my brain just hates sc valley batteries

food b are still the worst in the middle range, but they also have a positive ratio of 27/20

this investigation is sponsored by me trying to figure out how to stop producing as many things as possible and still get some v4 bills

btw, you only need about 40 million bills max per week in v4 for anything that is somewhat worthwhile, and more than half of that is the essence tickets of which you get too many already

[craggy oyster]

V4 is wasteland once u buy everything valueable. might need some tickets for essences and that's it.

later when u at wuliing u can just delete all ur V4 base if u want

[storm garnet]

the best thing in the shop are the gifts, you can save a lot of wuling bills if you use those gifts

[craggy oyster]

now it mostly serve as extra resources and 80k storage for us

[south patio]

We need a flush pipes button to empty out a pipe system for incase a clog happened

[storm garnet]

copy as a bp, delete, paste bp

[shadow void]

Ok, tomorrow at 3 in the afternoon

[storm garnet]

or split the clogged fluid into a tank and delete the tank

[shadow void]

simple clear button would be better

[craggy oyster]

nah u dont need that much. u lvl up friendship very fast

[shadow void]

we already got a reverse flow button, does anyone even use that

[south patio]

not getting a splitter in here, and rebuilding the whole thing with a blueprint would be tedious to set up the conduits again

[shadow void]

replace the reverse with a clear button

[craggy oyster]

wwhat that do when clog happen?

ahhhh icic

[shadow void]

you save bills be using gifts?

[south patio]

Ive been emptying the conduits by just picking up and replacing the purification unit over and over

[storm garnet]

wuling gifts are expensive

[shadow void]

oh you mean the V4 trust items, yeah

[craggy oyster]

Extra 12k storage.Nice

[shadow void]

you can also save alot of wuling bills by already being at 200% trust on all of them . . . .

[storm garnet]

i am

but for new characters, you use 1 week worth of gifts in like 2 days

so you need to accumulate

[shadow void]

just prioritize and limit usage

[south patio]

Ive found that this setup is better than running the Cuprium Solution in a straight line through the Crucibles

[graceful wraith]

U can just not speedrun the trust gifting

I just do 3/day

[shadow void]

If you wanted them 200% quick yeah feed them V4 items, but at most you get trust just twice as fast

[storm garnet]

the faster i 200%, the faster i can forget about it

it's not like there is anything better in v4 shop anyways

[shadow void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I tried it once to see but forgot, how many v4 items does it take to get the first circle on Fangyi?

i know its like 30-40 for the last two

[craggy oyster]

3

[shadow void]

the non optimal item

[storm garnet]

15

[sterile stratus]

max liquid in pipe is 2/s right? can u connect 4 crucs on a line

[craggy oyster]

a few %, i dont rmb

[craggy oyster]

yes

[stray warren]

Each crucible takes 0.5 ratio each, don't ask me how the math works

[solid quiver]

36900 you mean

[craggy oyster]

41*300=12300

[sterile stratus]

is this every liquids

[shadow void]

uh

[stray warren]

So far

[shadow void]

total stashs or just a few used

[sterile stratus]

except water

[fervent lodge]

acid, water

[sterile stratus]

oh yeah acid asw

[craggy oyster]

desperate time come desperate mesure lol . extra 100 storage

[shadow void]

you've got 123 stashs there, so its a total of 36900, but you probably only have some filled i assume thats where your count is

[craggy oyster]

oh rightttt that's x3

yeye

damn so that actually 40k+ storage

[shadow void]

the main blob is 117, +6 on the left

[south patio]

These 4 Crucibles were originally all in a straight line for the Cuprium transport, but I found when I split the 1st two off in a separate line, the Purification Unit at the end can actually hit 100% efficiency

[sterile stratus]

oh

[shadow void]

but why are you storing Origocrust?

in stashes

[craggy oyster]

make machine

[solid quiver]

(13 row × 9 column + 6) ×300

[craggy oyster]

incase i couldnt online, it will not cap and wasted ori

[craggy oyster]

ye i forgot i have 3 line of that

[solid quiver]

ain't no way that would reduce to 41

[sterile stratus]

am i missing any bottle

[shadow void]

i just dont get why you need all those stashes at all, just make the machines

[sterile stratus]

except for cuprium water

[craggy oyster]

crystons

[sterile stratus]

cry-

shi

[shadow void]

water in Cuprium bottle

[craggy oyster]

just rmb every ore = 2 type of bottles

[south patio]

I dont see the Xiranite Bottle, only the Experimental one

[shadow void]

gonna get ripped after event anyway

[sterile stratus]

maybe it's above

[craggy oyster]

except ori ofc

[shadow void]

plus you cant put other fluids than Yazhen in them

[sterile stratus]

imma get cryston and every liquids in it

[shadow void]

Amethys bottle and water aswell Bubble

[south patio]

[solid quiver]

there's no sewage ferrium

[sterile stratus]

oh yeahhh!!

f-

and amethyst water asw

smh

[solid quiver]

and water cuprium

[shadow void]

so -3 types so far, and Cryston

[sterile stratus]

there are 10 liquids gotta catch em all

and yazhen steel ig

[solid quiver]

amethyst yazhen and water

[storm garnet]

just count 11 for every type of bottle, plus the empty bottle of course

you also need the recipe on the filler and the separating units

[shadow void]

Yahzen Amethys, Water Amethyst, Sewage Ferrium, Yahzen Steel, Water Cuprium, and all of Cryston

[sterile stratus]

😭

yeah i didn't use the separ and fill

[storm garnet]

i say need cause the world revolves around me

[stray warren]

My spaghetti aah setup

[storm garnet]

i usually fill (with filling unit) 50 bottles of each type and liquid, and then yoink 1 of those bottles and use the separator, then the filler again

the hard part will be for the future me, when i try to get the depot filled

[craggy oyster]

if u dont count event bottle, then 6 bottle x 10 liquid + 6 empty bottle = 66 type of bottles in the game rn

[storm garnet]

11 liquids

[craggy oyster]

what?

[fierce wadi]

Worst factory known to man

[sterile stratus]

might be better than mine

[storm garnet]

cute

[craggy oyster]

water + axit
yazhen + jincao
sewage + inert
xir + eff
cup + heto
What's the 11th

[fierce wadi]

Acid?

[craggy oyster]

water +acid

already count

[solid quiver]

heavy

[south patio]

heavy xiranite

[craggy oyster]

oh yeeeee

72 types

[storm garnet]

you can count it on my pic

just pick 1 bottle type and count all of them

[solid quiver]

game so dead players would absolute make useless things

[storm garnet]

game so fun people go out of their way to play it more

reality: somewhere in the middle

[fierce wadi]

Can’t wait for this event to be over

My factory is suffering

[shadow void]

Water, acid, sewage, jincao, yahzen, Inert Xircon, Xircon, Xiranite, Hvy Xiranite, Cuprium, Hetonite

[solid quiver]

I can wait until event over

but can't wait until phase 2

[shadow void]

We are so bored we are trying to find objectives to complete

[bright zodiac]

nonono thats far better, (than joshletsgameit)

[storm garnet]

event finsihing means we are only 12 hours away from aic update

[stray warren]

I'm probably in the minority that really like the current pacing, just because it allows me to touch grass

[fierce wadi]

I’m piping in acid via filling unit to that area

[bright zodiac]

you are normal sane person

[dusky geyser]

the event is ending in 12 hour for your?

[shadow void]

NA is 1day 12hr

[solid quiver]

37 hours until aic update in asia

[bright zodiac]

ive seen worst and even worst

[storm garnet]

my factory is basically on fire all the time cause it's on maintenance mode until the aic update

[shadow void]

well Phase 2 of the event anyway

[fierce wadi]

Phase 2?

Don’t tell me I need more gourds

[shadow void]

the phase where you can make Gourds

[storm garnet]

never said the event is over, i was talking about what happens when it's over

[shadow void]

ends in NA/EU in 1day 12 hours

[dusky geyser]

24hr for us

[storm garnet]

as to why we want the event to end

[solid quiver]

I can't wait until AIC update drops and do everything in 2~3hours and wait for another weeks

[solid quiver]

that's not aic update

[fierce wadi]

Ah

[solid quiver]

that's just mark of event ending

[fierce wadi]

The wacky inflatable flailing tube arm men?

I see

[solid quiver]

event will end at 13th 6:00

[storm garnet]

again, when the event ends in x amount of time, x+12 will be the aic update

[solid quiver]

aic update on 14th 4:00

[fierce wadi]

Yeah we need one more in wiling for the achievement rn

[solid quiver]

+22

[fluid bison]

I got water for sc wuling battery but it need sewage?
https://talospioneers.com/en/blueprints/01kq7kvbrwwsnz2qt4xbkg3gq5 the blueprint is this
idk how it works since i skipped guide for quick cash

20 iq dude trying to use 200 iq build:

[solid quiver]

you can get sewage from cuprium going in refining unit

[frozen nacelle]

it says in the description they left out the cuprium refiner which would give sewage

[craggy oyster]

find cuprium ore and rigs it like originium/ferrium. Then refine it , it will make sewage

[fluid bison]

guess i destroy my marker stone factory i got enough

[solid quiver]

All this boredom makes me wanna download and play hateful moba games again

[craggy oyster]

u dont have other game to play?

[static isle]

you should keep your sewage, xircon and heavy xira in the same spot

[solid quiver]

have few but maxed

[craggy oyster]

how about smt repeatable like tft or smt

im so over moba

[sterile stratus]

above amethyst bottle with water, acid and sewage

finally completed the item files somewhat

[static isle]

justice to amethyst and cryston

[craggy oyster]

lol still lack

[sterile stratus]

which one 🥀

i'll do immediately

[craggy oyster]

water + axit
yazhen + jincao
sewage + inert
xir + eff
cup + heto
h.xir

[void owl]

is there any benefir on over producing the new gourds?

[craggy oyster]

just count ur bottle, each should be 11 types

[sterile stratus]

water+acid?

11 liquids, 6 bottles

[craggy oyster]

i list in pair for easy rmb

[sterile stratus]

66 total?

[craggy oyster]

yes

[plain stratus]

ts left and 1d left to sell

[solid quiver]

don't have wifi so i can not freely download anything

[plain stratus]

if my math is right I need 1m on the creds ×500?

[sterile stratus]

7*9+3=66 i think i've completed

[solid quiver]

you may get massive amount of wuling bill if you hoard until even ends

[sterile stratus]

yes

[solid quiver]

yes

[plain stratus]

500×100 is 50k?

[craggy oyster]

yeah, u can just skip that and purchase other thing. no need to clear the store

[solid quiver]

yes?

[dusky geyser]

1m for 50k, is fine even if u somewhat miss out

[sterile stratus]

yes

[plain stratus]

scammed

[solid quiver]

not really worth

[craggy oyster]

that's half of the shop in term of certs and like 1% interm of value

[plain stratus]

Ill just craft yellow fangyi gear materials

[solid quiver]

time to hoard gourd until event ends

[plain stratus]

oh

forgot this

legacy items

[dusky geyser]

about 117 sanity worth

[void owl]

i dont hold, i trade them all, but the shop is empty, so idk where did the worth go

unless hoed = max depot out

[dusky geyser]

Since asia server event end 12hrs earlier, we will have the info whether to horde or sell them for NA/EU

[half reef]

Not really, they already said : if you have jade gourds remaining after the end of the event they will be automatically (sold) converted to wuling bills
If your wuling outpost ran out of money then the gourds will be converted to certs ( useless guarbage)

[solid quiver]

not really

it didn't clarify outpost running out of money

it only clarified max bill limit

[half reef]

oh wait

[solid quiver]

didn't inclue any current outpost bills generated

[half reef]

i might have read max bill limit as outpost running out of money lol

[stray warren]

Basically after the jade gourd value totalled passed the 15M outpost bill limit, the rest became event certs

[daring rapids]

I store my extra bills with stock goods

[dusky geyser]

Willing to take the gamble even it meant losing my goods in the process, they are worthless since I cap my battery very fast

[daring rapids]

[solid quiver]

it doesn't include any outpost limit

[half reef]

I saw that

[solid quiver]

only wuling bill limit

that's most confusing and less detailed part

[daring rapids]

you saw nothing

[half reef]

https://klipy.com/gifs/james-doakes-doakes--k01KRDKEWPF36QVH44VH73BV1TV

[daring rapids]

it was just an accident

[spring elm]

He really perfected that "stop lying" look

[solid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-25192597

[stray warren]

"There are no oogway"

• master accidents

[spring elm]

easiest way for this kind of math, just say 5 * 1 and add all the zeros to the answer. (i.e 500 x 100 = 50,000.

in other news, someone said here that you only need 2 sandleaf powder production lines for 3 xiranite lines, which means there will be no excess sandleaf powders. I dont know how I missed that all this time, but I had to tear down my entire thing again, though I still produce 30/min from my battery production line but that means I just need to destroy it every 37 hours. Better than having to shut everything down(except my batteries) 3 hours before I go to work because it takes 12 hours for the powders to cap and I wont get home in time to stop full system clog.

[south haven]

Just make extra sandleaf problem solved

[dusky geyser]

you sure is 2 sandleaf powder production line and not 2 sandleaf production line?

[spring elm]

yeah I do mean that. I thought I corrected that lol

[stray warren]

Wuling had me having OCD fits with how almost every product line requires 2 sandleaf powder with almost nowhere to go for the 3rd without spaghetti line

[south rover]

Got done with the event just in time

[swift steppe]

I've been using depots to catch the excess, though that also makes lines larger.

[dusky geyser]

i dont think is too much of a cost, other that a few extra shedding machine power, unless your sandleaf line came directly from the factory and not the depot

[south haven]

Just do 3+1 and port in sandleaf powder from somewhere else for quads

Or do 4x3 for 6 forges

[scarlet osprey]

my sandleaf productions is twice the amount needed
cause fuck sandleaf

[stray warren]

I shred them directly instead of using depot to transport powder

[bright zodiac]

just dont be like this

d
o
n
t

[solid quiver]

wtf is this

[spring elm]

I try to avoid anaconda long belts as much as possible. Longer makes it harder to "read" the layout and that they also count towards the build limit

[scarlet osprey]

a factory

[bright zodiac]

180/m sandleaf usage

for 30/m xiranite

[solid quiver]

I would know that

it's just horrendous

[bright zodiac]

[spring elm]

definitely not, I need my depot space for other things and besides, jincao lets you skip the carbon stage and go straight to carbon powder

[acoustic tusk]

so i asked again the customer service to reconfirm this, and this is their response, what do you guys think?

[half reef]

that's huge then

[bright zodiac]

it means, yes

i will get my 14M wuling stockbill by the end of the event

tq

[solid quiver]

so it's 14m

[bright zodiac]

[solid quiver]

66k jade gourds

[acoustic tusk]

this is how i asked them

[bright zodiac]

i should have 115k jade gourd by the end

[half reef]

time to kill my battery line for that sweet 12/min 💀

[scarlet osprey]

was it really that important for you to ask customer service
it feels like a waste of time on both parties for this

[solid quiver]

it's not really killing

you get 1.5 wsc bats from inerts

[shadow void]

i dunno, I feel like ppl being able to get a free 14m is very illogical

[solid quiver]

and 6/min vsc bats from production

[acoustic tusk]

for me, its was 1 minute of typing, for them theyre doing their job

[half reef]

I mean, i am producing 13 bat/min and 6 jade gourd/min
Will have to adjust it now to get 12/min

[dusky geyser]

I think you should have ask when the exchange happen their the event end, the exchange happen with the outpost or the wuling bill just direct exchange?

[vital narwhal]

it's still not hard-confirm because conceivably it could still mean 'trade [with outpost up until current outpost stocks or] up to 14m limit'.

[ruby sorrel]

when does jade gourds end again

I need to think about repairing my factory

[scarlet osprey]

in theory you wasted electricity and produced carbon
on the other side wether we get 14m or 1 m its doesnt make any difference since we gonna run out in a day or 2 for artificing and fail anyway

[solid quiver]

at 6:00 o' clock all your jade gourds will be removed and corresponding amount of wuling bill be added to your wuling bills

[acoustic tusk]

ok

[solid quiver]

and excessive amount will be sent into your mail as certs

[scarlet osprey]

the only thing i want is another depot outpost

[solid quiver]

13th 6:00

[ruby sorrel]

6 and not 18 yeah?

[bright zodiac]

cant wait for my 14M

[solid quiver]

it's said 6:00

and they use 24 hour format iirc

[acoustic tusk]

i wont be held responsible if this turned out inaccurate

[ruby sorrel]

hmm, I should just stop in case it burns my outpost

[solid quiver]

there are many peole using this method

[bright zodiac]

dont worry man

most of us, already Burn heavyX since phase 2

[lofty lodge]

Aight, gonna start produce jade gourd, should be able to gain 2 million credit by the end of event

[bright zodiac]

like, there is no way to undo anywayyyyyy

[vital narwhal]

it's fine anyway, can just run 3hxira forge after test area hits and restock hxira

gotta use prio pipes tho

[acoustic tusk]

same i'll have 117k gourd in a few hours

[bright zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-smug-gif-22677264

[dusky geyser]

We will be either be celebrating or grieving at the end of the event

[acoustic tusk]

not really, at least for me

we're alr overproducing so much so nothing of value will be lost even if it turned out to be outpost bill

[daring rapids]

[subtle finch]

my issue is you only asked what they meant by "the limit" in their sentence
I think a better question is along the lines of "is it also restricted by the outpost savings on top of the bill limit"

[solid quiver]

that excessive certs can be used in exchange and bill would be used to buy yellow sanity

[dusky geyser]

i guess the only lost would be the goods that is over the outpost bill limit if there is one

[solid quiver]

there's nothing to lose

[scarlet osprey]

im just produced enough gourds to buy everyting
then i stopped and resumed my batteries

[acoustic tusk]

thats fair, i did state the implication of both situations but cs prob wouldnt bother reading that far

[scarlet osprey]

cant wait for the next ore so i can copy blueprints and turn off my brain

[south haven]

Chen brain

[scarlet osprey]

i did my factory myself
its not minmaxed

im waiting for the minmaxed versions to copy

[solid quiver]

almost everyone does by themselves

[marble yarrow]

no way?!?!?!

[daring rapids]

I should empty my bills

[south haven]

I copy a blueprint
Decide it's ass and optimize the hell out of it

[scarlet osprey]

jokes on you i always spend my bills on artificing stuff
which always fail

[sterile stratus]

relatable

[upper fiber]

guys, what if your jade gourd on valley iv exchanged to valley iv bills when event ends, just because you stored at there

[spring elm]

..everything goes great until I need to fit in a pylon and the range cant reach 2 units forcing me to either lay down another one outside of it and thereby screw up the next set or rearrange everything from my intended design

And then there's pylon overlap with another one >_>

[upper fiber]

25x25 pylon when

[chrome shell]

1x1 miniature pylon that requires heavy xira instead of xira

[spring elm]

LOL

[upper fiber]

that's cheap

esp with extra 4 forge later

[chrome shell]

only works in Wuling though, next area you'll be back to 2x2

[upper fiber]

i think we will stay in wuling for..... months

[spring elm]

you couldve made it more annoying by saying liquid heavy xir which is more steps lmao

[spring elm]

I once said that there's no way HG would let V4 be bigger than the area that is inspired by their homeland.

I guess we got 2 more areas to go

[upper fiber]

valley iv is tutorial map

[solid quiver]

it's said as "Wuling bill"

[spring elm]

Ive read this before and Im inclined to believe it

[chrome shell]

yea 2 more sounds about right since Nefarith became a Re-crisis boss

[solid quiver]

there should be valley 4 expansion in future

[lean stag]

Is xiranite gourds better than LC wuling batteries

[solid quiver]

under the aburrey quarry

[acoustic tusk]

or if they count v4 depot at all

[solid quiver]

jade gourds are better

[spring elm]

there is also the matter with Li and Ardeshir

[lean stag]

Aren’t they rlly heard tho

To make

[solid quiver]

bruh we are literally at the ending of the wuling chapter

[marble yarrow]

yes it is, even better than SC bill-wise

[solid quiver]

there's no zeroth directive left in wuling

[lean stag]

So I should get rid of my datly which is full dedicated to LC batteries and dedicate it to jade gourds?

[upper fiber]

anything can happen.... when the devs screwed up and forgot to code it well

[ruby sorrel]

hm 20k gourds, I should just swap back to sc now, oh wait 68k sc..... just deactivate my whole factory

[solid quiver]

make 12/min jade gourds

[lean stag]

Pls blueprints

[chrome shell]

Yea it feels like Ardashir is gonna finish his business in Wuling soon, either he leaves until another arc or he dies

[solid quiver]

#1461542035617091681

[lean stag]

Im lazy

[solid quiver]

there's literally thousands of blueprints to freely choose from

[acoustic tusk]

true, but thats what they said about attack on titan final season

[solid quiver]

even last one is for jade gourds

[solid quiver]

this ain't isayama

[chrome shell]

It's funny though, jade gourds are too good, I ended up with a stockpile of SC batteries that clogged my storage, which clogged my sewage, which clogged my heavy xira and everything died 😱

[spark hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1501109380324786248 @lean stag

[chrome shell]

Now I'm offloading extra SC batteries to Valley 4 to use

[solid quiver]

if ardashir don't make sudden attack right now, we will leave wuling in no time

[upper fiber]

any possible open map on wuling?

[lean stag]

Thx

[acoustic tusk]

so new region? that soon? i mean i'll take that

[solid quiver]

you can just make 1.5/min wsc and 6/min vsc in wuling

[upper fiber]

1.3 seems like still in wuling though

[solid quiver]

yes as implied in last chapter

[spring elm]

I have this nagging feeling that he's ||hitched a ride in Li, via possession.||

[solid quiver]

that means ardashir gonna make some bullshi attack

[chrome shell]

WSCs are easier to transfer, I just have an unloader in V4 to burn Wuling SCs for power. Just need to ctrl click and switch at Dijiang a few times

[solid quiver]

would you translate it in endfield education not in arknights

[acoustic tusk]

put that sc into shredding unit

[upper fiber]

menu->backpack->tap 68k sc-> discard

[spring elm]

Never played the original Arknights.

[chrome shell]

That's a waste of good SCs 😅

maybe I should just start burning more SCs and planting mortars at every alluvium site

[shadow void]

Hmmmm

[spring elm]

Im not gonna do the math in my head but that could power a region for a long time

[upper fiber]

not even 1 month if use 3/min

[chrome shell]

My V4 goes through around 3000 a day

[spring elm]

It's 40s per right?

[chrome shell]

yea

[solid quiver]

why not just sell it

[chrome shell]

After selling gourds the PACs had no more budget left for SCs

[spring elm]

yeah it would be a month

[solid quiver]

you needed to hoard gourds tho

[chrome shell]

oh wha

we need to hoard gourds?

[daring rapids]

[upper fiber]

hoarding jade gourd people gonna be poor 2 days later

[solid quiver]

yeah

[ruby sorrel]

I should turn off my gourds so I get hxira back up

[chrome shell]

Why, like what does that unlock

[solid quiver]

hoard for weeks, burn in secs

[solid quiver]

you clearly didn't read the rules and informations

go ahead read it in game

[daring rapids]

nah imma hoard hxira

we'll get to use hxira a lot in next area

[upper fiber]

if the devs don't deduct from outpost, then we will need saved stuff to sell

[solid quiver]

"a lot"

I bet even 1k heavy is enough

[chrome shell]

Yea the event text says nothing about hoarding them

[upper fiber]

unless the quest is asking for us to give liquid heavy xira as quest item, i doubt we will spray 1k

[chrome shell]

Instead of being vague can you explain why exactly we need to hoard gourds?

[lofty lodge]

[solid quiver]

it's literally there

[chrome shell]

Yea I can't find it

[acoustic tusk]

its this

[solid quiver]

how weird

[chrome shell]

That's late conversion

[daring rapids]

no it is very normal

just accept it

[solid quiver]

yes

[acoustic tusk]

some believe its converted using outpost savings, some it will go all the way to 14m stock bill limit

we'll see which is correct tomorrow

[chrome shell]

If you empty the shop there's no point hoarding

[solid quiver]

you can ask customer service about it

it will literally say it's

[random estuary]

You can empty all the timed shop items weekly for a few weeks if banking 14mil

[acoustic tusk]

yes im the person who asked it actually

[daring rapids]

the guy did that the n time already

I lost count

[ruby sorrel]

hm , maybe I could make some lc....but that's over 50k too

[chrome shell]

There's only 2 phases, you can empty it quite quickly

[ruby sorrel]

gourds was a mistake, everything I can sell is near cap now

my factory is facing shutdown

[random estuary]

Ah wrong shop. We care about the stock exchange inelastic goods.

[solid quiver]

so it's certain that conversion will last until max wuling bill limit

[acoustic tusk]

but customer service can be wrong, not the first time it happend to me so even if i got a confirmation, im not 100% sold

but i alr made my bet a week ago

117k gourd lets go

[random estuary]

I'm at 0Hxira. So I'm a gambling man

[spring elm]

moment of silence for they worked valiently and with great effort

[random estuary]

(I mean. Until I can convert my 30k bottled Hxira into physical)

[solid quiver]

bruh you supposed to sell gourd after you sold other items

[brittle sedge]

ill do the opposite
delete all gourds so no chance for it burning through outpost stocks

[ruby sorrel]

I still have 20k gourds

[solid quiver]

you can still sell gourds even generated stockbill is depleted

[ruby sorrel]

if event lasted another week I'd have no depot space for anything

[lofty lodge]

Producing 6/min jade gourd at the cost of 3/min SC battery.

[solid quiver]

there was literally a warning dedicated to this

[south haven]

Wuh i thought you made hetonite comp anyways

[random estuary]

Speaking of. I need to manual transfer some more SCW to V4

[ruby sorrel]

yeah that makes no sense, on the off chance autogourds depletes outpost stock that would suck

[brittle sedge]

join gourds deleting gang

[random estuary]

Just in case, empty outposts before autogourd?

[ruby sorrel]

uh, no? emptying outposts is what I don't want to happen

good thing asia will tell me if I need to delete gourds tmr

[acoustic tusk]

im maxing outpost savings so in case the auto convert did use outpost savings, i will at least get 3.2m instead of nothing

[random estuary]

But then outposts will waste "generation" for like a day lol

[brittle sedge]

keep it high enough so it still can generate

[ruby sorrel]

wth are you on about it's not sitting at cap

[lofty lodge]

wait, its 12/min jade gourd

[brittle sedge]

would be ass if we get higher outpost level with no stock to trade

[random estuary]

Maybe I'm. Too casual player and only login in like every/every other day. So. .... Errr

[south haven]

Why are you stacking hetonite

[meager stream]

lemme monitoring your markerstone pac bwahaha

[acoustic tusk]

yea i timed it to max just when the event ends

do we have maintenance tomorrow?

[half reef]

Do you still have friends
If my friend doesn't log for 2 days he's gone from my list

[brittle sedge]

seems not

[lofty lodge]

Dunno, i can use it to make more hetonite part, but kinda lazy to change my layout.

[brittle sedge]

should put some more leeway since you need time to unlock? and do the quest as well

[south haven]

Bru just add another fitting unit

[acoustic tusk]

i dont think i'll need some unlockings since its just a matter of what happen when the event ends? if it used outpost savings then my outpost will be empty, if not then i'll just trade in so i'll have 17m temporarily

[upper fiber]

btw, the new area is likely in 2 days... so don't save too fast

42hrs i think

for asia

[south haven]

Oh wait new area happens before jade gourd ends?

[acoustic tusk]

after

[spring elm]

14th

[south haven]

Oh time to make a yazhen C circuit then

And micro a million ferium

[sacred tiger]

How to get purple battery in arknight endfield factory in vally?

Cuz I don’t have the blueprints

[lofty lodge]

https://youtu.be/bpJIGWYdrTM?si=0y3hcZlnO5Q3rEY9

[green spire]

Find one online

[craggy oyster]

hell no he gonna follow that guy into the full sandleaf wuling again

[marble yarrow]

"perfect"

[small creek]

why are we recommending this shitty ass design

[lofty lodge]

got code to copy purple battery design. But the rest kinda not available. Can also pause and copy the design.

[dreamy jungle]

Check database or online for the production chain and build it yourself otherwise browse in https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

[sacred tiger]

No I mean where is the battery one I have everything but the purple one

[sacred tiger]

Tyyy

[pulsar cypress]

Please remember to learn about liquid flows first before touching purple battery.
Or ur factory might keep dying over and over again.

[sacred tiger]

What is it?

[lofty lodge]

i think is the HC valley battery not the SC wuling battery

[pulsar cypress]

Oh its v4 battery not wuling.
Then don't need to concern about it.

[lofty lodge]

Yet

[pulsar cypress]

True.. "Yet"

[lofty lodge]

I gotta say, is nice seeing factory blend in with other people too

[pulsar cypress]

......

[upper fiber]

where it is, i gonna place pylon on that spot

[pulsar cypress]

Just remember..
I think i have item that almost cap last night.
Haven't touch factory today, ig some productions are shut down due to item clog or liquid clog.
-_-)

[lofty lodge]

Marker Stone AIC

[unreal laurel]

skyflat or whatever its called

dang,wasnt even close

[pulsar cypress]

Piss pool pac..

[unreal laurel]

how tf can you tell

[spring elm]

acid pumps

[upper fiber]

hmmm some acid pipe on their sky is good too

[spring elm]

There's only 2 places you can use them

[pulsar cypress]

Thats the only place that have small river beside the pac.

[solid quiver]

ppp (pepepe)

I saw using acids in core aic

then why not in qingbo area

[pulsar cypress]

The all in one place style endmin..

[lofty lodge]

and then there is a dude that connect acid from the sky

[solid quiver]

I just had an crazy idea

[unreal laurel]

haruna

[unreal laurel]

no

[pulsar cypress]

Should place sprinkle at top there.
Make artificial piss rain.

[lofty lodge]

Not the plant farm

[spring elm]

All that is getting torn down except my Fruit Punch Storage tanks.

[unreal laurel]

why TF do i see 3 relay towers in the back within close proximity of eachother

[spring elm]

haven't bothered deleting them

[unreal laurel]

i see 2 more further back....

[spring elm]

And one thing I learn fast here - dont show my actual builds because yall judge real bad

[unreal laurel]

lemme judge your relay towers instead

its better than being judged on the base

trust

[spring elm]

Go for it. I could explain why they're still there but you'll just desect it further.

[unreal laurel]

nahhhhh

[spring elm]

I do a lot of testing various setups and when I dont get the desired results I tend to just leave residual pylons. Eventually I delete them but it's a "whenever I feel like it" thing.

One of those relay towers I cannot delete though

I had a zipline route going directly across but removed 1 zip

[acoustic tusk]

liquid tanks on the top right?

[spring elm]

yes 😛

[acoustic tusk]

what are u hoarding?

[spring elm]

Cuprium Solution

[meager stream]

so clean & tidy

[valid gazelle]

one can only wish one had such marvelous building skills

[unreal laurel]

whatre we doing

[spring elm]

Using the channel.

[spring elm]

oh Ive tried to do the whole PAC in the middle setup

[valid gazelle]

But this is just the xyranite related lines

[unreal laurel]

this is basically just a xiranite ring

[unreal laurel]

i need inspiration...

[spring elm]

the one I posted can produce heavy xir, 3x xir, cuprium component, cuprium solution, and the bit at the bottom was bottled cuprium solution to then transfer the solution to a crucible and then bottle the hetonite solution and later extract the solution for the hetonite, but then I realized I could just not bottle it and send it straight to a crucible

[unreal laurel]

im need a name for an educational hub for a school proj and cant come up with a good name

[spring elm]

Call it 7671 school of factorying

[valid gazelle]

i need to see what we're cooking with the Test Area unlocked first

but at least be it 9+3 or 10+2 i can still have a some what symmtrical base

[upper fiber]

+60 cupri only...

[valid gazelle]

[spring elm]

I just hope we can zip right into it, seems like we can

[unreal laurel]

wdym by that

hows 10+2 even possible

heavy comes in 3s

you should hope for a 6 6 split fr

[keen badge]

The Hub, shock therapy center

[small creek]

lacking power are we

what are u gonna shock with

electricity bill?

[grave veldt]

Today I will cap on wilung batteries and will need to unclog that BS, thanks event

[spring elm]

oh I wanna see a video of that epic destruction lol

[keen badge]

Just finalized the layout before firing it up, the grid is fine 😎
(but I do have a habit of turning off the power to turret zones like this when I don't use them)

[dusky geyser]

just use your battery on outpost, save support item and let them expire, u get the event ticket anyway

[dusky geyser]

or B trasnfer wuling battery to v4

[acoustic tusk]

u can put batteries in each turret, 50 of them will last till endfield 2

[spring elm]

now I wish banks were belt free but I see why they arent

[dusky geyser]

does it really last that long?

[acoustic tusk]

yeah, mainly because with batt the turret only drain power when in use whereas if connected to grid it drains power all the time

[acoustic tusk]

just an example

152k power, 160 each fire

so 1 battery is good for almost 1k shots

thats 2 hours of non stop use

so with 50 thats 100 hours

[keen river]

in practice its even more because alluviums are mostly downtime

it only shoots like 25% of time

[dusky geyser]

I will keep this info in the back of my mind when i need more power again, right now i need more reason to spend my battery

[quasi locust]

personally, i did alluvium with sanity, and i can only use half of sc wuling on each turret for a whole patch

[acoustic tusk]

what i find weird is each batt seems to have a little bit more power in tower compared to thermal bank

3200w for 40s should only be 128k but its 152k in tower

[keen river]

battery bank and tower are unrelated

different batteries have different tower multiplier too

[quasi locust]

Using this pic, the capacity is power x 40s tho

Or should have been

[spring elm]

I think Ill approach this in a better way.
The one nearest to Yvonne is the "main relay", I even have it marked on the map. If I stash it, everything outside of the Core AIC and the outpost pacs are shutdown, Ive tried to get around it, but there's always that 'one relay' you dont mess with. The other 2, I was testing to see if I even needed to use pylons between 2 pumps and while I don't, if I need a 3rd pump, a relay doesn't have the radius to power a 3rd. I just left them there anyway, I know I could revert back to pylons.

The others you saw further back, one of them is on the edge of the plantation area. I dont remember what I was trying there but they aren't needed anymore either, so past me just left them.

[keen river]

the battery is 3200 so its 47.5 actually

but if you take valley4 battery its only like 43.x

[acoustic tusk]

im not debating that, i was just saying each batt has more capacity in tower than in power banks

[keen river]

yeah

[acoustic tusk]

for example wuling lc has 72k

so sc has more than double

[unreal laurel]

this is criminal

[solid quiver]

and say " ahh" cuz this piss os only for you

[spring elm]

Im always in jail.

[upbeat turtle]

did anyone do the math to whats best to do with the extra 30min xira
make more SC or alternate heavy xira on 7th forge?

[keen river]

wait two days so that you get 4 more forges

[solid quiver]

"directly from the piss pool"

[solid quiver]

gourd

[acoustic tusk]

extra 30 xiranite for sc requires u to do manual dop transfer from v4

[quasi locust]

So tower actually gives bonus power for using battery, that actually makes a stronger case for using battery doesn’t it

[solid quiver]

you don't need concern something like that when update js around the corner

[upbeat turtle]

didnt know there will be another aic update

[keen river]

generally speaking, powering towers from power line is a bad idea

[acoustic tusk]

yes, each batt has different ratings too, its inconsistent

[lofty lodge]

As crazy as you manage to bring piss at that location.... That place have the nicest view at Wuling

[solid quiver]

only for the bro

directly from the piss pool

[keen river]

i wonder if that mountain will be fixed in next update tbh

[solid quiver]

100% mineral

[keen river]

that should be the test area side

[drifting tide]

whats going to happen to the xiranite gourd once the event expire will those ive made disappear

[dense blade]

how long did this take

do conduits work going upwards or something

[keen river]

they will disappear, its not yet quite known if we will get money for them or not

since wording is confusing

[solid quiver]

around a hour?

[acoustic tusk]

its auto-converted to bills, whatever that means

[solid quiver]

I used conduits at first

so I had to run back stash those conduits and replace them with pipes

[spring elm]

I cant zoom out far enough, the lines will disappear lmao

[quasi locust]

The unclear part is how they tap wuling bills (is it from outpost or from thin air)

[solid quiver]

only used conduits in mainfort and bridge

[acoustic tusk]

according to in game customer support, thin air

[dense blade]

do they not work going up

[solid quiver]

cuz it's too steep for pipes

[dense blade]

the waterwheel

[solid quiver]

conduits are just wifi transfer

[dense blade]

how did you get up there with pipes

[keen river]

we will see in about 30 hours

[dense blade]

o

[dense blade]

20 for asia

I’m 99% sure it’s from outpost tho

[acoustic tusk]

im 90% sure its outpost, but i gamble anyway

[keen river]

isnt the event end synchronized on all servers?

the in game notice suggests it is

[acoustic tusk]

i dont think so

heres on mine right now

[keen river]

🤔

[solid quiver]

conduits are used there

[keen river]

indeed

interesting

[quasi locust]

Same, i just sell the minimal sc battery to uncap it and produce extra gourd without burning heavy xira stash

[solid quiver]

and here

[acoustic tusk]

so u have 12 hours to adjust if u want to take advantage of this event

[keen river]

shall see

it doesnt really change much tbh

[acoustic tusk]

at this point, not much yeah

but if youve been saving up heavy xiranite and hetonite, u can make 116k gourd in that last 12 hours

[keen river]

i just have ~110k gourds stockpiled

[spring elm]

curious that the game was being nice and let the pipes form past the edges of the walk way

[keen river]

tbh even if i get nothing it doesnt really matter much

those resources arent useful anyway

[acoustic tusk]

true

[dense blade]

asia’s always 13 hours ahead

[dusky geyser]

Is test area going to be the last zone for Wuling? are we reaching the end of this version patch before 2.0?

[dense blade]

even their dailies are 13 hours ahead

[keen river]

not really

its all random

like game upgrade drops at same time in all regions

[dense blade]

only version patch updates are globally synchronized

[keen river]

events sometimes start at weird hours

[sick basin]

We dont know
But most likely no
We are still missing 1+ outposts

[keen river]

only daily and events seem to be 13h ahead

[dense blade]

big patch updates only

asia gets access to the events and stuff on the version roadmap 13 hrs earlier

they get their daily resets 13 hrs ahead, it’s a whole different server so ofc it works like that

make an asia alt and you’ll see

[solid quiver]

there should be one more area

[keen river]

there is at least one area that is super obvious from quingbo

and we should go to north exclusion zone too, so that more maps north of wuling

that entrance is also bit obvious but obscured with fog

[solid quiver]

that should marker of wuling map and filler episode

[solid quiver]

time to transfer piss there

[keen river]

i doubt we will get new region soon tbh

[spring elm]

I like little teasers like this

[acoustic tusk]

if only 1 more zone then its faster then i expected, thought we're stuck in wuling for a year

[keen river]

i expect like 2-3 more verison upgrades in wuling

[dense blade]

I heard 1.3 might be the last tho

[solid quiver]

nah there is literally nothing to do in wuling now

[dense blade]

we might just come back later on

[acoustic tusk]

from?

[dense blade]

somewhere like a month ago I forgor

[solid quiver]

zeroth directive completed

[keen river]

they keep teasing the north exclusion zone

[solid quiver]

no nefarith

[craggy oyster]

if they do the 5 maps like V4, then ye 1.3 might be last. we get the 5th map and that's it

[keen river]

no way we arent getting it

its probably going to be whole new plot

[solid quiver]

that's end of the wuling

epilogue map

after that new region

[keen river]

dunno

its possible but hard to tell

we might get some reconstruction plot again

[solid quiver]

just think it as dodoco island from genshin or chasm

[keen river]

its seem to be their thing

[solid quiver]

at latest patch, we are said to be done with zeroth directive in wuling

[keen river]

shall see

they also said that each region will last about a year

so it would be weird to just end wuling now

[spring elm]

I can't see us being in Wuling til next Feb

[craggy oyster]

with this rate of map release tho, just how many maps per region they gonna make then

[keen river]

it is also possible we might get new map in valley 4 before next region

[hardy tangle]

probably gonna be 1 more of wuling as the northern region for the last pac spot

[keen river]

since there is at least one entry to unusd map, although it might also be a cut content

[hardy tangle]

its the only teased information we got so far from the game

[keen river]

well, two entrances to two maps actually

[spring elm]

V4: hub, quarry, lodespring, plateau, one other I cant remember
Wuling: Wuling, Marker Stone, Skyflats, Qingbo, Test area

[hardy tangle]

there is two places of interest that im looking forward to see what they do with
one in the stockade, south, blocked by rocks and so on
then the northeast of wuling, which ig will be the gateway to the northen region 🤔

[keen river]

yeah

wuling should get at least two more maps

i dont think each region will be limited to just 6 zones

[craggy oyster]

V4 have valley pass and park

[hardy tangle]

hub, valley, quarrey, park, lodestone, plateau

[daring rapids]

imagine we do region revisit

[craggy oyster]

wdym revisit

[spring elm]

tbh I havent been back to V4 in so long now

[hardy tangle]

further development of v4?

eeh. doubt it

[keen river]

imho its quite likely

valley fort is obvious zone we should get

especially now that nef is dead, so some subplot about landbreakers might make sense

[hardy tangle]

looking at it from the perspective of economy, the v4 economy is... too easy, as its the intro map

[craggy oyster]

i mean they have to cook up smt really neat to come back to V4

[keen river]

and then there is this entrance to new map, but it might be a cut content

[spring elm]

It was hinted that there's possibly another commander

[craggy oyster]

like entire new mode require entire new thing

[daring rapids]

I want to see v4 getting rebuilt more nicely than it is now

and bonekrusher being completely eliminated

[spring elm]

I just want a reason to hear the Core AIC music again

[hushed blaze]

Well, did i do it right or did i do it wrong

[lofty lodge]

Hope we got involve with TGCC faction. Valley IV related with UWST. Wuling with HAS

[keen river]

you cant unload both hetonite and xircon so yeah.. its nto going to work

[hushed blaze]

I don't get why in crucible has 4 output but cannot have 2 different output

[hushed blaze]

Well, guess i have to switch one way or another since it'll lead to stashes

[spring elm]

they add redundant input/outputs to maintain object size / design consistency is my guess.

[keen river]

they could have just added two output boxes for items to gui..

like they did with pipes

[hushed blaze]

Worst part is in crucible we cannot take out or plug in manually about what was processed or inserted goods inside unlike other factory facilities

[waxen aurora]

when wuling test area

2 days?

[keen river]

yeah

day after aic event ends

[solid quiver]

probably gonna used for splitting

[craggy oyster]

cuz the end product take many materials and the output is only one. Rn the end produce are either xircon or hetonite. And if u do it right it only have just enough slot to make xircon. there is no room for any of the hetonite reactions.

[acoustic tusk]

we should be getting another sub pac area coming with test area right?

[keen river]

as far as we know, no

[hushed blaze]

We already had new sub PAC this patch

[solid quiver]

should come in 1.3

[acoustic tusk]

cant see how we can fit in 4 more xiranite farms though

[hushed blaze]

Meanwhile i almost able to make hetonite gear but things way too conflict

[hardy tangle]

by placing stuff smarter xd

[spring elm]

Yeah I understand that but im talking about, for example, the forges and their billion input/output ports and you only need 2 inputs and 1 outputs and then the filling and separating units and their billions of slots.

[hardy tangle]

compact builds

specially considering xiranite doesnt Need depot outputs, it can be a standalone

[keen river]

the extra outputs are necessary due to space constrains

[acoustic tusk]

im sure its far from impossible but the game so far has been very lenient in space so it will be a change of direction

[hardy tangle]

there are plenty of compact blueprints in this discord

[spring elm]

exactly what I said earlier(just in a different way)

[valid gazelle]

There is always a way

[hardy tangle]

you can fit literally 6 forges in a Camp / outpost

[valid gazelle]

Its whether or not you want to do it

[spring elm]

lmao

[daring rapids]

scrap that

[valid gazelle]

no

[daring rapids]

who knows what we gonna need next

[hardy tangle]

6 forges and at least 2 sandleaf farms to be exact, in an outpost, easily

[solid quiver]

I feel like 2 forge for heavy and 8 for bats

[spring elm]

but how did you get it to zoom that far out?

[hushed blaze]

I'd be more impressed if you didn't place a single depot at all

[hardy tangle]

is cut and pieces placed together

[spring elm]

oh right

[solid quiver]

screenshot and stitch them

[valid gazelle]

Then its pure Xyranite and its not using all of the space

[solid quiver]

that could be done fi do not use cuprium

[hushed blaze]

i forgot the sewage inserted pipe was conduit. Thought it was treatment

[acoustic tusk]

i prefer to make my own, its more enjoyable that way

my xiranite farm, i quite like it

[barren sparrow]

That is nice but i like this more

[valid gazelle]

Ugh taking sandleaf out of depot

[daring rapids]

ayo why all sandleaf?

[dense blade]

is this the works of I win to lose

[hardy tangle]

thats fair, i made my own for a comfortable 2x xiranite production in a fair sized box, which can fit total of 2x2 of them in an outpost, but in the end is just about that, putting the effort and have fun optimizing stuff

[valid gazelle]

Lol

WAIT WHY SANDLEAF FOR CARBON

[dense blade]

the realization

[hushed blaze]

i'd rather doing it without depot if it just a single sandleaf

[craggy oyster]

Bro need to change name to i wuling to sandleaf

[valid gazelle]

If you handt mentioned I wouldn't have noticed

[hushed blaze]

Basically a simple term of "i want cheap material to use"

[valid gazelle]

No it's called "i choose inefficiency"

[hushed blaze]

While yeah, wuling plants are faster than sandleaf

[craggy oyster]

except they all free

[hushed blaze]

You know how painful connecting water to planting unit, sometimes.

[hardy tangle]

and if anything is just taking more power from the grid

painless

[daring rapids]

why do that when I can just slap more fots like modules in my factory?

[dense blade]

it’s the equivalent of driving to a gas station 100 km away to save 10 cents on gas

[valid gazelle]

Ye those are additional modules

[spring elm]

nice, my best most compact one always has a "pyramid" top

[valid gazelle]

Wdym my base is almost full modular

[daring rapids]

your current one?

[valid gazelle]

Ya

[solid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[daring rapids]

oh I thought that is your brand new design from scratch

[valid gazelle]

I designed my base around it being modular

[dusky geyser]

your grinding unit is being overfed

[valid gazelle]

Lol no

[daring rapids]

[dense blade]

I pity anyone who uses blueprints from I win to lose

[valid gazelle]

If you look closely they are 4 of my double xyranite bp placed in a square layout

[dense blade]

the name is actually accurate

[daring rapids]

my current layout just has so much free space I don't have to do any scrapping whatsoever

[valid gazelle]

My old one too. But i want a different design cuz im bored

[daring rapids]

main aic still can take 3 more fots

[unreal laurel]

Bananana

[valid gazelle]

It had so much free space

And this is already incorporated with extra fots lines

[daring rapids]

I just have to put one more fots in marker stone left

[meager stream]

carbon dense yes you must need it, but carbon only is optional xD

[spring elm]

if by modular, it means that it can produce different things and they can be shutdown individually and not being dependant on another portion of the factory, that's definitely how all mine I have and that being said, I have to build with pylon placement in mind so that there's no overlap nor units not being powered but still "close enough"(like exactly 1 tile off..I hate that)

[dense blade]

[hushed blaze]

At least you're not using wood log just to make carbon

[barren sparrow]

you can do that ?

[acoustic tusk]

pyramid top?

[hushed blaze]

Yes but that's the least efficient

Especially you have to manually cut the wood
Or worse, use bombs

[vale bramble]

we'll be able to mass produce wood trust me

[spring elm]

The forge is at the top, the 2 refiners are below it and the grinders being wide as they are, stick out forming the base of the triangle.

[daring rapids]

that's basically my fac

[vale bramble]

pipes 🤤

[daring rapids]

[daring rapids]

does this base produce yazhen A?

[valid gazelle]

Why ?

There is no extra copium to do so why would I make Yazhen A

[daring rapids]

why not?

[valid gazelle]

We dont even have enough for 100% hetonite

[barren sparrow]

I mean it works

i can abuse this

[daring rapids]

what if we need to sell Yazhen S with hetonite bottle

[valid gazelle]

The only thing being abused is your base

[hushed blaze]

"If it works, it works"

[dense blade]

but it’s worse

[valid gazelle]

Do we have yazhen S ?

[daring rapids]

fym abused

[dense blade]

4 planters 2 seeders vs 1 planter 1 seeder

• a pump

[valid gazelle]

I meant what I meant...

[barren sparrow]

Abuse is a minor inconvenience when i can make money out of it

[daring rapids]

guh

probably not yet

[hushed blaze]

Wait, hetonite bottle?

[fluid fog]

yes we can mold hetonite into bottle

[spring elm]

Im doing it now lmao

[fluid fog]

but its expensive rightnow like two lines needed to make.

[solid quiver]

that's more likely

[valid gazelle]

Your base your choice.. i dont see how a less efficient method is more "convenient"... My logic is flawed

[solid quiver]

or cuprium bottle?

[valid gazelle]

I rest my case

[hushed blaze]

I can almost make a bet that yazhen s or jincao require bottle + component in packaging unit

[solid quiver]

if cryston is like hetonite

[daring rapids]

nah we need hypergryph to pull a fast one on this guy

[hushed blaze]

Which is stressful.

[daring rapids]

[solid quiver]

we will just make cuprium bottles

no need to make hetonites

[acoustic tusk]

i mean looking at v4 products, next tier wuling items are gonna be using hetonite bottle for sure

[barren sparrow]

i already made a "more" efficent one lol

[solid quiver]

I think hetonite is gonna be crsyton of wuling

[barren sparrow]

i still have no idea how belt bridge work

[solid quiver]

and it's all starting to make sense

[fluid fog]

extra-step cryston I say for non-factorio player.

[vale bramble]

why do they look so tiny in the picture

[barren sparrow]

smol land

[hushed blaze]

We haven't had grinding unit where jincao/yazhen powder + carbon powder processed yet
(And turn into even more weird liquid with crucibles)

[vale bramble]

grinding unit except we make chocolate in it now

🤤

[barren sparrow]

if it was that simple man

because i still can't make it work as i intended MAN

[tough berry]

tommorow the day we gain 14m bill droll

[vale bramble]

2 days until more factory

[tall tangle]

i fail to see a problem 🤷

[spring elm]

luckily my crazy hording self had made 80k of almost everything in V4 before I stopped going there, so I already had plenty cryston bottles to supply the entire galaxy and give several civilizations lots of water

[hushed blaze]

Did you fill cryston bottles in every liquid possible? Maximum?

[indigo oak]

how long does it take for it to reach theoretical data?

[tall tangle]

as long as it takes you to make proper inputs

[solid quiver]

crazy to think amethyst is the cuprium and hetonite is the cryston with extra steps

[solid quiver]

it wont

[spring elm]

nah, I just made the bottles there. In Wuling, I filled Cuprium bottles with everything lol

[indigo oak]

idk what im doing wrong

[frail trail]

how much heavy xiranite are you producing and using

[solid quiver]

you reached fluctuating maximum amount

your inputs are lacking

[hushed blaze]

Except cryston significantly easier than hetonite

[tall tangle]

welp, if need help, gotta show more

[frail trail]

wtf are those theoretical usage

damn

[solid quiver]

"hetonite is the cryston with extra steps"

[indigo oak]

uhm...

[dense oar]

holy over-usage

[tall tangle]

first, you cant have 18. 12 max

[solid quiver]

you are probably using converger and splitters

[hushed blaze]

Did ya just smoke the xiranite out of storage

[jolly shore]

the madman

[frail trail]

since you don't have any heavy xira stocked up, make 12 jade/m + 1.5 scw or 6 jade/m + scw

[stray warren]

Around the same i suppose

[indigo oak]

i have 0 factory smarts, i just followed all this https://youtu.be/y0Xg_15e6kQ?si=-vt5EEzThnSnE4Fq

[spring elm]

Bridges allow mats to travel over/under other overlapping belts, and that's without delay. There's one issue with them that comes up if a line goes through too many though, the belt(s) will slow down offlline

[indigo oak]

idk what else to to

[daring rapids]

bro got spawn-camped

[frail trail]

18/m is only achiveable if you have heavy xira stocked up

[pulsar cypress]

Thats a scam guide..

[tall tangle]

welp. we r not gonna watch it too (most wont). gotta know atleast something to ask leading questions

[indigo oak]

it says 12/min self sustain and 18 if extra. but im not even reaching 12

[lofty lodge]

Try this, this should land about 12/min

[daring rapids]

well at least u would get all the gourds

[hushed blaze]

Anyway, i have to log in and turn back on the v4 factory

[frail trail]

how do you even get 30 heavy xira usage/m

[daring rapids]

I bet that bp has 3 gourd lines

[indigo oak]

following other random videos...

[pulsar cypress]

That bp have full depot hxira and heto rock maybe..

[solid quiver]

bruh following guide maker YouTuber is scam itself in every game or show etc

[indigo oak]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494628329851064402 its from here.

[daring rapids]

except for kyostinv

I always trust the goat

[pulsar cypress]

Ah yass..

[frail trail]

oh my god they got you make 0.5 cuprium component and 0.5 hetonite component

turn off the component maker

[solid quiver]

oh my god

[keen river]

tfw you dont know about select + tab

[spring elm]

I just stick to the minimum items/s and for xiranite, the highest I go is 90/min, because it's 37hrs for 68k otherwise heh

[tall tangle]

first, what i can recommend, find in your event 1 of 3 sets of buildings i highlighted (those which are connected to each other) and blast them. that will move theoretical from 18 to 12
if you cant do that, then you have to re do everything with other guide or something

[dense blade]

I feel called out

the 18/min design is to burn excess heavy xiranite for people who start the event late