aic-factory

[brittle cove]

Yeah, I may have to start doing that. Only reason I have the spaghetti is that I was also running a 2/min LC battery off the 25/min Metastorage of Dense originium, and didn't want to have it steal some from the SC batteries

[dense blade]

it’s like thousandths of a second

[warped delta]

For awhile I was buffering all my machines ahead of time and even added fluid tanks to provide a buffer between steps of the original 5-reactor xiranite process. But it didn't seem to actually prevent what you describe of some things running perfectly and others clogging

[nova osprey]

im not sure how people tested for belts specifically either tbh, there doesn't seem to be a good way

you could do smth like take some plant that isn't really used, like aketine, and run it through a refinery and see what happens to the numbers over time, but idk if that ends up showing that belts are slower or machine processes are slightly slower

[brittle cove]

I will say. It's interesting that I didn't have this problem when I used to pull Xircon from storage. So I'll go back to doing that I suppose

[warped delta]

Actually I remember what it was now: Some product was just flat-out disappearing

[nova osprey]

actually wait there is a good way to test if it's belts or machines

planters are great for tests

[shadow void]

If i cant make 13.25 SCW, what DO i make?

[ashen charm]

too bad you need a belt straight off a machine

[warped delta]

They tested it by setting a protocol storage to storage only and filled it with 500 items and belted it into a machine to produce something and at the end they only had 497 items produced.

[craggy oyster]

i ahve seen machine didnt take items from belts even when there is nothing inside the machine

[ashen charm]

cant just have machine out to machine in direct

[nova osprey]

bruh moment, but that doesn't really say that it's guaranteed to be the belt, unless they tested it with splitter/converger afterwards ig maybe

[dense blade]

hcv

[brittle cove]

I'm going to have to mode my whole ass factory down in order to facilitate these extra unloaders lol

[craggy oyster]

the game eat our resources?

[shadow void]

_> thats gonna backup too, its not far from cap, only reason its not is cuz i run on it

[warped delta]

Also, I doubt it's truly 11/min only. The UI only shows whole numbers, so it was probably something like 11.95 or something

[shadow void]

may be relegated to making 148k LCW lol

[waxen aurora]

taxes

[brittle cove]

The farther I stretch the time, the more stable it gets

[ashen charm]

imagine the next area they introduce gases and they work off pressure

[warped delta]

2hrs usually gives you a good reading of production

[shadow void]

or just stash tons of Xircon, Xircon Effluent, and Hvy Xiranite, maybe even Hvy Liquid

[brittle cove]

I had nothing to do for a bit so I pregamed this event by bottling effluent

Then used it to double my heavy X production for awhile

[nova osprey]

im doing that

[shadow void]

[jovial breach]

My mistake of making 29k heavy xiranite liquid

[craggy oyster]

Lmao the phase 2 opening

[dense blade]

maybe stuff on conveyors get slimed out or smth

[warped delta]

Too bad you can't refine it back into heavy xiranite ... or can you? heh

[dense blade]

spray the rift

[nova osprey]

i know you're a time traveler but i can't prove it..

[brittle cove]

Imma have to use splitters to get exactly 25/min Dense Originium usage in my LC bat factory though

Hopefully I have the protocol capacity

[daring rapids]

Why do u need even that much

[jovial breach]

I just wanted some for exploration

[daring rapids]

They are much more potent than normal xir liquid

[dense blade]

some

[jovial breach]

But i forgot 💀

[dense blade]

[wispy grove]

how many jade gourd factories are u making?

[brittle cove]

I got 3k and thought I was being excessive lol

[daring rapids]

I just dump it in a tank and let it clog

Ends of story

[nova osprey]

no you're actually a time traveller prestocking hxira fluid for hcw when test area drops

[dense blade]

this is why you fill them manually instead of running a filling unit

[shadow void]

its not knowing what to do with excess

[wispy grove]

tf is that spike bro? thats like 30-50+ in a minute

[craggy oyster]

if u have no condensed ori it will balance itself. like full speed 50 mins and then 10 mins off. there is no need to do that

[warped delta]

This is why you don't connect liquid xira production to a depot etc. Only need like 50 for the entire map...

[dense blade]

29k can probably spray test areas 100 times over

[craggy oyster]

102

[shadow void]

no reason to let 6/m hvy just not produce, so you can either do soemthing with it, make hvy liquid, or store the Xircon effluent in bottles

[daring rapids]

Imagine an area so blighted and u need that much hxira fluid

[nova osprey]

he knows we're going to need hxira fluid for heavy xircon to make hcw... 100% true trust me

[brittle cove]

My main concern was that it will balance away 5/min worth of my dense ori that's used for HC batteries

[dense blade]

saw this silly thing

[ashen charm]

i wonder if they're going to remove all of our xaranite parts

[shadow void]

i'm almost done guys, 80k still in V4, but i'm calling it here and puttting it back to 6/m

[nova osprey]

they are

[brittle cove]

They will

[dense blade]

lwk might be cooking

[nova osprey]

[craggy oyster]

oh u can only do that for 1 line at a time

[shadow void]

32k gourds leftover

[craggy oyster]

ahem

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/say-whaaat-gif-18261283115155956121

[warped delta]

Even if we do, there are only so many stock bills and I already have most of the stuff from the store I need in Wuling

[ashen charm]

oh might aw well remove the protocol storage so much for itching my collectors bad habits

[brittle cove]

Wym?

[daring rapids]

Oh shoot I might need to stock that more too

[nova osprey]

[dense blade]

ggs

[shadow void]

gonna turn off all the unloaders so they facilities run dry

[warped delta]

I've got like 300 artificing tokens saved up in Wuling, so I don't really need more of those. Only thing left to buy are sanity tokens or w/e

[dense blade]

surely you can fit more than 17 production lines tho

[craggy oyster]

like u only use 1 item for 1 think then u can do that. If u want to do the same item to make dif thing then u gonna have to make it from scratch

[brittle cove]

Yeahhhhhh

[wispy grove]

ill just chill with this

[brittle cove]

Maybe I'll just send over the non-dense Ori and cook it 🙂

[wispy grove]

theres no need to minmax gourd,

[daring rapids]

Not chill enough

[wispy grove]

wdym?

[craggy oyster]

the thing is condensed ori need 2 ori, so it should be 750/h. But somehow we get 1500/h. That the most profitable item for metastorage

[daring rapids]

I consider 6 gourds/min more chill

[wispy grove]

i have alot of heavy xira reserves

[vale topaz]

kinda regret doing 24/m for jade gourd.
the stock regeneration cannot keep up with the item trade.
2 days until heavy xiranite supply depleted from boosting jade gourd production.

[wispy grove]

so i wanna use 12/min for week i think

[ashen charm]

i wanna push 8 gourds at least so i can clear out those tastey T bills

[wispy grove]

true its just too high

[daring rapids]

12/m is minmaxing when u have no hxira stock

[wispy grove]

unless u dont trade 3 days ago

[daring rapids]

[ashen charm]

whole reason I havent been gundecking everyone to lvl 80 is tbill concerns for a possible priority promotes for CC0

getting them all to 60 and skill trees capped been my goal the last few weeks.

[shadow void]

at the very least all my 6* are maxed 90s

[vale topaz]

i keep maintain stock regeneration 1 day before full.
selling ~1.5 k enough to deplete marker stone sub : /

[nova osprey]

all my ops are going to be level 60 by cc0 at the very least

I saw someone with full lvl 90 operators though, all operators

[ashen charm]

CC in OGAK rewarded having a capable team not a high performing team.

[nova osprey]

yeahh i hope it's the same

[wispy grove]

the selling price is just too high

[shadow void]

all my 5* are 60 with skills that or higher, and a handfull are 80

[valid gazelle]

Unless you are pushing R27+

[ashen charm]

...R32.... runs where insane

[shadow void]

I love R32s

[valid gazelle]

No guides.. highest ive ever done was R29..

Higher is just.. to much for me

[ashen charm]

I think i hit R23.

i favored too much in stall tactics.

[nova osprey]

you actually did R32??

[valid gazelle]

Lol my team is all about timed nuking

[shadow void]

back before they were popular cuz of Fast and the Furious. . .

[valid gazelle]

I couldnt do stalling

Maybe that's why i couldnt push higher

[nova osprey]

geez

[nova osprey]

yeah same lol

[ashen charm]

i could do the stall I could not do the super damage needed becaues lot of the things that needed to die where just resistant to everything

[valid gazelle]

I get anxious when my operator hp gets low

[shadow void]

talking about the Skyline, but eh

[valid gazelle]

AND DAMN HOSHI MISSED THE 25% AGAIN

[ashen charm]

so at a certain point the risk would push the guys too high and stall just topples over.

[valid gazelle]

Nah its Hoshi missing her passive

[ashen charm]

Saria was my main staller

because she did eventually get that one module ability to just wtf delete resists.

[valid gazelle]

My waifu was my main staller.. tho her stalling is quite something...

P6 <3

[craggy oyster]

damn ppl zigzaging bus to fit machine now

[small creek]

aight who wants their ass carried in dire simulation

[subtle grove]

If I can do 12/min jade gourd consistently, how long for clearing the 2nd shop?

[valid gazelle]

Less than 4 days

[small creek]

in like 2-3 days

[shadow void]

I'll stop all JG production, calculate how many more I need to deplete outpost stock bills be event end, then how many JG I'll be able to produce during the 12hours before event end. Or how many I need to produce to get 14m, if this is the case.

[ashen charm]

i wonder if you can clear the shop without using the jade gourds.

[nova osprey]

should be able to, i mean 16/min clears both in 10 days ish

[shadow void]

how many Xiranite Gourds can you produce stably every minute

[small creek]

you can but you bleed money

[nova osprey]

[shadow void]

~224,000 Xiranite gourds

[ashen charm]

was 12 i offloaded my two fots for heavy xirante again

then folks told me they where not going to let us keep event items for nostalgia purposes so im using my backlog of spare sparts now.

[nova osprey]

we actually still have an item for nostalgic purposes, but it's not in the depot, it's in the valuables stash

a single gourd of both kinds

[ashen charm]

yeah an item copy proto

[shadow void]

assuming 372 hours (7days of Phase 1? dunno if correct + 204 of phase 2), thats ~11/m Xiranite Gourds production rate

[ashen charm]

but was making xiranite parts and xiranite bottles for the same purposes

[winged dirge]

Hey guys, i finally started taking a serious look at Wuling. I Set up most Hydro Drills, so i am getting a healthy amount of Cuprium.

But the Customizable Bus Depot and Requirement of Water Pipes is confusing to me a little.

What Production Lines should i build and at which Outposts?

[ashen charm]

either way got my jade line up and now I have to try to increase my xicon fluid and hertonite stuff

[jovial breach]

Do you mean for event or just for in general

[ashen charm]

well you can make whatever you want anywhere, but fokls recommend making your sky king flats your farm/ medicine factory

[daring rapids]

ayo you can make fertilizer with xiranite and poop?

[ashen charm]

then your cardiac outpost your curprum hertonite production

[winged dirge]

Uh. kinda both maybe? Let's start with the most important thing first: Energy. LC Batteries using 2 Forges. Which Outpost should i use for this?

[ashen charm]

energy should be done at main AIC

all your forges at main AIC as well.

[craggy oyster]

u make heto at the 3rd base cuz axit. the rest u can do whatever

[shadow void]

SkyKing: Forge area (7), MarkerStone: Hetonite, Wuling: Everything else (SCW, Hvy Xir, Meds)

[valid gazelle]

This is very debatable

[ashen charm]

well if you can make room at the other two, do it there, but generally its quite a sizeble effort start to end.

[winged dirge]

7 Forges Fit in Sky King Flats??

[shadow void]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1495778524760641596

[shadow void]

You can setup your factories literrally how ever you want, if it fits

[valid gazelle]

Yep

[nova osprey]

7 forge in sky king flats is pretty darn solid, at least until may 14th ig

[winged dirge]

why, what happens may 14th?

[ashen charm]

more fots

[valid gazelle]

Im amazed how people can fit them in

[sage nymph]

new update

[ashen charm]

are we're getting a third AIC with the place?

[valid gazelle]

Nope

[ashen charm]

bleh...

[winged dirge]

Also Damn, that Zone is so overfilled.

[sage nymph]

i dont think so
theres only one skill tree update in the new area

[nova osprey]

data says no, but we get new machines

[shadow void]

should just be a matter of connecting water to conduits and its fine, plus putting in plants

[ashen charm]

all i know is two more fots, and those purification nodes that may turn into soemthing extra

[shadow void]

beyond that ther should be no messing with things in your forges that do Xiranite

[shadow void]

+4 FotS

[fringe owl]

xiranite drain of doom

[dense blade]

after purification node’s a thing, 18/min heavy xiranite in a single outpost is prolly a thing

[shadow void]

it wont die

i killed all hvy xiranite going in

[nova osprey]

thanks for reminding me i need to turn down my jgourds

[shadow void]

problem with over stuffing facilites

so small

[vale topaz]

without the plantation, can fit more

[craggy oyster]

Lmao if our guess right then this event give us a free deluxe chubby lung

[shadow void]

I personally have Leanders 7 forge design in SkyKing

[nova osprey]

im hoping

[shadow void]

I hope, would be cool

I'm gonna use this time to try and fit more than 48/m in a SubPAC

[ashen charm]

okay got my acid bottels swapped over from using cupruim over to amy bottles

[shadow void]

When Jade Gourds finally clear out

[fringe owl]

ye i have that working rn

[shadow void]

i had the bottler/unbottler setup from Leander but ripped it out for a pipeline

Manifold line*

[ashen charm]

I would do that but im lazy

i havent even zipped up wuling at all

[waxen aurora]

why doing that when friends exist

that makes ziplines without power use

[shadow void]

Made an acid one up from that boarder acid pool, then i made a manifold and 2 pipelines over to test area entrance just in case

[orchid pilot]

I would argue May14 makes the 7forge outpost better, not worse
because then we can set and forget, never have to adjust it again
currently if hyper optimizing, the 7th forge switching between normal and heavy means that forge is likely being kept in aic instead of outpost

[shadow void]

don't you need to constantly repair them?

[nova osprey]

perchance yeah, idk

[craggy oyster]

yup. it would have to be an overhaul formular change to make us cahnge 7 FotS

[waxen aurora]

no not actually that often i dont use ziplines much

1 sec to press r is okayish

[ashen charm]

i use my friends zip lines to place down my own then delete theirs

some of my friends are really good at getting to forbidden places

[craggy oyster]

isnt it a bug for that

yevonve and lae ult

[nova osprey]

patched

[craggy oyster]

shit

[nova osprey]

they fixed the glitch with in slot ults

[ashen charm]

doesnt stop the dedicated either way still taking advantage.

[nova osprey]

no more flying with them :c

[craggy oyster]

i have 1 zip at untouchable place

[nova osprey]

it would have worked if you had fangyi too

but patched sadly

[shadow void]

i was trying to do that thing with Fangyi to get under the water and not drown

couldnt replicate 🙁

[craggy oyster]

man does that mean i lost a zipline slot forever?

[shadow void]

unless you can place a zipline to get to it

yes

or they let you remote delete them

[craggy oyster]

need to find friend to share one

[shadow void]

this is my only oddly placed zipline

lets me go up that mountain

[craggy oyster]

oh hell naw

does the stash trick still work

[shadow void]

Like to get a bit higher?

[craggy oyster]

ye

[shadow void]

i havnt tried in forever

[daring rapids]

at least I want to have more depot bus ports

so I can arrange new fots

is it four new forts or two?

[sage nymph]

4

[ashen charm]

I am confused

[daring rapids]

[latent kayak]

what's the math for trimming the medal for the event? Do I need 12/min jade gourds, or is 6/min enough?

[ashen charm]

6/min should clear you out in 4 days

[shadow void]

You need like 4/m

[craggy oyster]

u need 3 just for trim

[meager stream]

youre not alone bwahahah

[craggy oyster]

congraz u confused us all now 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ruby sorrel]

it's the funny placement order prio

[latent kayak]

neat, assuming that's more than enough to buy out the store too?

[ruby sorrel]

idr if ppl found that it can swap offline

or if that was something else

[shadow void]

you need atleast 6/m

that'll get you like 98% of the valuables

but you probably need a bit more than that now since the first 24hr is over

[green sleet]

Ah. Would 18/min be overkill then?

[latent kayak]

i have some leftover from the first phase

[shadow void]

very

[latent kayak]

if i miss out on some leveling mats i won't be too bothered

[shadow void]

if youve already done phase 1 shop?

[green sleet]

Well. Big oof, Batman.

[latent kayak]

yeap, all done

[shadow void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1500983720566329425/image.png?ex=69fbbd05&is=69fa6b85&hm=81dce7438e6ee5a3efe9fbf85c6ad41d5dca738be27be01f37938af6b30b02f2&

[ashen charm]

according to the author of the thread its not exactly funny placement, main reason a blueprint can break

[daring rapids]

what can I do with the remaining 5 fots?

[shadow void]

Hmm

[latent kayak]

huh if my math is correct, 6/min jade for the next 12 days is over 100k

should be good

[green sleet]

I feel like i vastly overprepared for what i actually ended up needing

[shadow void]

You need 5.5/m Jade Gourd Production to buy everything in Phase 2 shop atm

including the massive Tcred sink

[ashen charm]

oh this is the same author that came up with the check valve.

[shadow void]

Less than half if you dont care about Tcred sink

[ashen charm]

so no wonder why he is making us all confused.

[valid gazelle]

This ?

[shadow void]

If you can do 6/m you are more than fine

[craggy oyster]

12 days is shop. event end in about 7 days

[green sleet]

I mostly cared about trimming the badge lol, but im gonna hit that shit tomorrow when i log on lmao

[valid gazelle]

My fabulous Planters of the Sky

[ashen charm]

Game needs to advertise when an event has a trim on it

[valid gazelle]

My pac is 40 away from 512

[ashen charm]

missed the 120 second survival one

[valid gazelle]

Can definitely squeeze something in

[daring rapids]

oohhhh

makes sense now

[craggy oyster]

man the more i see these base pic, why they didnt make the base capture feature in the 1st palce

[daring rapids]

I just another xircon line

[shadow void]

I didnt know it had one, but luckily I got that one

[daring rapids]

but muhh battery clog

[valid gazelle]

I have the essentials in the pac

Main xyranite and copium

The rest of the productions goes to the sub pacs

[arctic cedar]

For jg, is there a known "best" layout? And are we counting the conduit outlet as part of area

[daring rapids]

my fots setup is kinda all over the place

one fots in marker stone for heavy only

[valid gazelle]

I dont like splitting the same production ..

[daring rapids]

4 fots in aic for xircon

[winged dirge]

Guys, whatcha think about this?

[daring rapids]

2 another fots in the same aic for extra xir

[shadow void]

Its taken 30min for my JG factory to die

[valid gazelle]

Nicely done

You can squeeze it a bit more

[daring rapids]

and last one is switchable heavy/normal xir fots

[valid gazelle]

[daring rapids]

at the end of xircon line

[craggy oyster]

for awhile until u need to make new battery

[winged dirge]

Which points can be squeezed?

[valid gazelle]

Uh..

[craggy oyster]

im seeing potential for 2 sandleaf planter in the other corner

[meager stream]

1 xircon : 4 ori dense ratio is better bro

[valid gazelle]

If you look closely you see that you cut the rectangle in half diagonally. So ideally your build should look a bit more triangular

[craggy oyster]

it's old bat 🙂

[meager stream]

but 6/m bro

[daring rapids]

btw is the heavy xircon can keep going if xircon get clogged?

doesn't seem like it to me

[ashen charm]

compress grinders, use the extra space off the wall to bring in the xaranite unloader inward one more though frankly it should be off the originium crust loaders and you can rid of the two busses

[daring rapids]

unless we get hcw or something

[subtle finch]

what is heavy xircon 😭

[daring rapids]

wait I mean heavy xiranite

[vale topaz]

close the grinder gap, put power relay after shredder rather at the bus unloader, will make even more compact design

[meager stream]

hxira in reactors (processed liquid heavy xira)

[daring rapids]

brain ain't braining

[ashen charm]

xircon that isnt light

[valid gazelle]

i would want some heavy SIRcon

[craggy oyster]

it's1:3

it the old bat

[meager stream]

ooh i was think of SC, if LC ya its true 😅

[subtle finch]

if you use purified inert to make the heavy, then it's tied to xircon
there are ways to split the two system but you would need an extra expanded crucible and purification unit

[ashen charm]

either way having to rethink my entire lines rightnow

[daring rapids]

wait that could work

if xircon is clogged

[vale topaz]

in b4 HC is heavy xiranite + xircon + 4 orignium cube, fully used packaging unit input port

[daring rapids]

then we only get effluent

[ashen charm]

massive xircon effluent deficiency

[meager stream]

imagine if its appear in upcoming patch? with 6400 energy power battery xD

[ashen charm]

got 3 expanded crucibles trying to provide it from bydproducts and it ain cutting it need almost one solely dedicated for xircon

but its messing all my pipes up atm so having to rethink it all

[subtle finch]

[valid gazelle]

time to halt sc production

[subtle finch]

18/min heavy lasted a while

[valid gazelle]

and all in heavy SIRcon

[meager stream]

60/m jade, burn the entire pac

[daring rapids]

ayo only 5 yazhen planters?

neat

[craggy oyster]

i manage to squeeze in 68 and still keep battery and cup

it didnt last well

[valid gazelle]

wdym there's 10

[dense blade]

you can easily get to 1000 tbf

[daring rapids]

5 for feeding the xiran lines mb

[dense blade]

if you just

[valid gazelle]

yes.. there're 10

[dense blade]

stock up the atomizers and bottles

[valid gazelle]

for xyranite

[static isle]

as symmetrical as I could make it

[valid gazelle]

1 yazhen = 1 xyranite

[daring rapids]

well I count them as one

[ashen charm]

apperantly this is a check valve as well just put a pipe converger on the side you want to be the backup

[daring rapids]

one planter set

[valid gazelle]

10 xyranite = 10 yazhen

[daring rapids]

[valid gazelle]

have you counted the ones on the right side

this is a double xyranite

[daring rapids]

😭

how come I didn't see that

[ashen charm]

takes 9 spaces but its requires no setup or prefill and doubles as a exit point

[shadow void]

185 hours left, 64,008 outpost bills an hour, 11,841,480 bills left for outposts to produce, 98,679 gourds to deplete those bills. 8.89/m Jade Gourd Production needed

[craggy oyster]

withoout the 14m?

[shadow void]

Minus 30,717 stock of JG, I need a current production rate of 6.12/m jade Gourds

[valid gazelle]

aight time to double the JG

[ashen charm]

problem with using the manifold as a check valvue you cant go over 1 pipe worth of liquid to do it

[shadow void]

this is just to hit outpost stockbill limit before event ends

not the potential after

those are just the numbers I need to hit

[craggy oyster]

oh nvm. this is asumming u got 0 jg now.

[shadow void]

i've got 30,717 atm

[craggy oyster]

i was confused for a but

[shadow void]

might of done something wrong

[valid gazelle]

how do you make heavy xyranite again..

[craggy oyster]

2 xir + xir eff

[valid gazelle]

oh right effluent

[shadow void]

nah, thats right, need to keep 6.12/m jade gourds going just do deplete outpost stock bills that they'll produce before end of phase 2

slightly more than what i could sustain w/o changing anything

but, i've still got 80k Hvy/Heto in V4

[vast summit]

woke up to this

[craggy oyster]

im sitting at 30k ish jg rn. i think i wowuld just chill with 12/mins til the rest of the ev

[shadow void]

So I need to beable to burn 84320 Hvy/Heto in 12 hours or 117/m JG production

be able just in case

[daring rapids]

very Chen

[craggy oyster]

i put my output to an output ahh moment

[shadow void]

a potential 10m Stock bills. This is all w/o touching anything in my standard 13.25 setup

[vast summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1010512070766231644/1478732753066266718/Low_Cortisol_Lung.gif

[shadow void]

batteries are gonna backup before then so i need to use the xiranite, could make more hvy

[craggy oyster]

wait what server are u on

do we have 12h dif?

[shadow void]

me, NA

[craggy oyster]

a shit

[shadow void]

from Asia

[meager stream]

brain isnt braining

[craggy oyster]

then only 173h for me

[shadow void]

keep Dige'ing

kinda annoying

removed all the JG production, Dige, turned one on, now i gotta Dige again

[craggy oyster]

to burn stock need 9/min, im making 3/min for 173h + 30k stocked

[meager stream]

7 days 5 hours

[craggy oyster]

only 60k extra now.

guess i need to make more

[meager stream]

time to harvest wuling stockbills with JG

[shadow void]

Yep, just a slow burn from here till the end, all free bills

[ancient pier]

How many jg/min to keep the outpost empty?

[craggy oyster]

9

[shadow void]

atm, for NA, 8.89/m

[ancient pier]

Didn't expect it to be only 9

[shadow void]

shop is the easy part, keeping stockbills down, slightly more involved depending on if you stocked up or not

[craggy oyster]

lmao imagine someone ultra OCD make a 8.89 /mins tuner just for the sake of it

[meager stream]

not like asian players, "all in" complete within 1 day

[craggy oyster]

i was soo hype of rushing and then i hit outpost earning limit

[shadow void]

well minus the Tcred i'm done

[ancient pier]

What's the most profitable things to produce for now then?

[shadow void]

Jade Gourd

[craggy oyster]

jg

[meager stream]

oroberyl 1k & tcreds 180k

[ancient pier]

Sorry, I meant like the total configuration, like how many jg, heto parts etc

[craggy oyster]

full jg

as much as u can lol

[iron stratus]

12jg rest of heto into parts 1.5 sc

[meager stream]

they put all depot unloaders to hxira & heto raw, until 150/m prod

[daring rapids]

@valid gazelle do I get more depot bus when new area comes out?

[valid gazelle]

im not even using all of them

8/25

[daring rapids]

well...

[brittle sedge]

24/25

[meager stream]

hope the next update will bring new sub pac, all my pac are full & reach limit construction bruh 🙏

[valid gazelle]

thank to my own idea of build a modular base..

repurposing it is so damn easy

[iron spoke]

once the event shop is bought out is there any point in making more gourds?

[craggy oyster]

if it like valley then map 1 3 5 will be outpost

we just hit 3

[sick basin]

They still sell for a lot so its a good product
And they get converted to bills at the end so u cheat out on bills

[ancient pier]

I guess am gonna nuke my factory when I get home

[iron spoke]

the special event currency will turn into bills? that we don't lose to overflow?

[shadow void]

11,841,480 stock bills till phase2 end, 3,402,000 bills from depot missions, 2,680,000 bills from Envior missions. 17,923,480 total bills. after 7days 17hrs

[sick basin]

The products will turn to bills

[craggy oyster]

he mean the certs

since we all cleared the store, there will be no use of certs

so what gonna happen to all the excess cert

[shadow void]

anyone have some chart of the cost of Staple goods, like the trust items and artifacing catalysts?

[small creek]

cert nothing
but bills are forever

[sick basin]

Disappear

[shadow void]

[sick basin]

[shadow void]

using discord as a notepad . . . .

[small creek]

hi babe

[valid gazelle]

man i have to make yazhen C now

[daring rapids]

why not yazhen A?

[valid gazelle]

heto

[small creek]

meanwhile im forced to make heto comps

holy larp

[daring rapids]

me wen I have 15.9k heto comp

[green sleet]

I cant wait till im finally maxed on the heto products and can go back to my tea and meds

Feeling like Uncle Iroh with how much i need tea

[small creek]

omfg why is everything being a problem rn

[valid gazelle]

i decided to shut down my scw lol

[craggy oyster]

make bottle cup solutions and such

[small creek]

Oh hell nah i wouldnt do that

[green sleet]

Bottle hetonite solution into hetonite bottles like a true psycho

[daring rapids]

not for me

[valid gazelle]

time to run originium batteries

[green sleet]

What happens to the components and items once the event ends? Do they just get poofed out of our inventory?

[shadow void]

9.6m left to buy on Artificing catalysts this week, then next week i need 16.24m to buy all the Catalysts, and the first discounted trust items. Could save a lot if i don't buy the worst discounted Catalysts this week and next

[shadow void]

yes, most probably

dunno if you'd get credit for them tho

[green sleet]

Damn. I was gonna start bottling xiranite into the bottles

[shadow void]

you cant

[sonic summit]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[green sleet]

cries

It only accepts the plant?

[cyan forge]

The peak is a lie. 5.4k nowhere to be seen

[craggy oyster]

4 cup = 4 cup solution = 1 heto solution
ame + crys +fe+stell+cup bottle = 5
(68+80)5 =740
so u need 2.96m cup to full everything lmao

[shadow void]

probably, doubt they'd make a recipie for anything else

[sonic summit]

and only yashen

oh nice extra wuling money

[static isle]

reworked some shit
12/m

[green sleet]

Ah. Yeah thats fair. Got my hopes up for a meme lmao

[shadow void]

I reaaaaaly dont wanna sell my wuling elastic goods

they are my rainy day fund

[green sleet]

The hetonite bit tho... thats got some legs

[valid gazelle]

[small creek]

im turning off regular gourd to hoard xiranite

[shadow void]

i dare you to jump in font of that

[small creek]

this is js too much

[green sleet]

You let Goku out of that pillar now

[formal haven]

man when will they add that we can join others world and see their aic

[sonic summit]

i got to see it twice this whole account low and mid peak is more common like this sadly wuling peak still rare for me

[cobalt oriole]

I’m back under 4.5k power

Benefits of turning all sc line except 1 row off

[cyan forge]

Lol

[valid gazelle]

aint that beautiful

[craggy oyster]

https://giphy.com/gifs/metal-kojima-hideo-joxThEgTJuSBO

[formal haven]

all i see are thermal banks...

[valid gazelle]

that's the whole point

[craggy oyster]

hang on a sec

[formal haven]

may i ask how many power u got?

[craggy oyster]

u can actually make shape with those themarl bank

[valid gazelle]

not enough

[formal haven]

might update the factory later

[vale topaz]

it is, it's called battery poverty shape.

[shadow void]

40 hours and i'm gonna have 148k SCW. . . hmmm

[valid gazelle]

gimme like.. 10 minutes i'll give you the update

[shadow void]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-gif-15291718235185428481

[valid gazelle]

i dont even know if im being smort or stupid

[formal haven]

[vale topaz]

seriously, why spam thermal bank ? not enough storage for battery ?
not even 80k at valley4 ?

[valid gazelle]

im not gonna wire the battery manually so no

[daring rapids]

@valid gazelle I just need 3 more fots to saturate my double xircon and double hxira tbh

[shadow void]

are you burning originium?

[valid gazelle]

this is cool

like a bridge

[valid gazelle]

ya

[daring rapids]

maybe I could use an extra fots if I want independent effluent flow

[vale topaz]

wait, rather using thermal, why not power relay, if you want aesthetic only....

[valid gazelle]

that being said.. repurposing fragments of my base is quite easy when i made it so modular

[formal haven]

talos 2 gonna be dry out LMAOO

[valid gazelle]

yes

[formal haven]

[valid gazelle]

it's... beautiful

[vale topaz]

wait, there's color difference between wuling and v4 power line , right ?
iirc v4 is yellow while wuling is a bit greenish

[valid gazelle]

yep

anyway here's the stats for anyone wondering

[shadow void]

Making LCW seems like a massive waste of Xiranite, thats out the window, so i'll probably make ferrium/steel bottles and bottle xircon effluent, and make a line doing originium and origiocrust powder

[last ledge]

[formal haven]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yvonne-endfield-gif-iDOIoDMPrfHjk6eIOy

[vale topaz]

..... that won't work.
they'll just go outside, pick grass, and then return to the aic to produce more grass and turned them into carbon or something.

[shadow void]

i can make carbon on the stove

if i mix it with water will i get xiranite?

[vale topaz]

no, you'll get a charred remain of a plant plus nagging session from your wife / mom

[craggy oyster]

i see a bunch of unprocessed xir right here

[shadow void]

Is that, Yahzen?

[craggy oyster]

techincally any plant can turn into xir

[vale topaz]

if only there's real life sandleaf.

[fervent lodge]

oh, neato
any prior art/papers you have referenced?

i thought full solve was np but it seems you're just fixing some of them in place and solving around them?

[shadow void]

Originium is coal/oil, Sandleaf is natural gas, blight or aether is plutonium or something?

[craggy oyster]

i saw a post of irl plant of arknight before

they all exist so far

[vale topaz]

ooo, nice, hope they will compile a complete list of what real life object inspire in game raw material.

[subtle finch]

i was gonna make a p = np joke, am i that unoriginal 😭

[valid gazelle]

my base is about to shit itself

[hoary crag]

||ppnp||

[shadow void]

33.3 hours till Hetonite backs up

[valid gazelle]

im more concerned of my heavy xyranite

[hoary crag]

imagine

[vale topaz]

17280 / 24 hour for heavy xiranite losses

[shadow void]

[valid gazelle]

over 2 days

okay

[arctic cedar]

Mostly simulated annealing + some other random heuristics, mostly just looked at how ppl route for stuff on pcbs. I just "pin" placements as a starting seed if I have a rough idea on what the optimal layout looks like. Might improve it though, have an idea of combining kind-of-optimal subgraphs

[shadow void]

52 hours*

[subtle finch]

i made a compilation of jade gourd layouts here, there was a recent one that just beat the last record

[valid gazelle]

52 ?

[shadow void]

38000 divided by (12x60)

[valid gazelle]

ok that's longer than i anticipated

all good

[fervent lodge]

wait. i somehow forgot that pcb routing is already a domain

that makes complete sense actually

[subtle finch]

a popular problem here is if 8 forge is possible in 50x50 area

[valid gazelle]

WHO GAVE ME THE IDEA OF USING ORIGINIUM AS POWER

[fervent lodge]

did you get rock cancer

[valid gazelle]

was it Hikarin

[vale topaz]

..... the in game tutorial ?

[bright zodiac]

gotta use the unused Originium if SC is neglected

[fervent lodge]

even if it was, Hikarin is no longer with us

[bright zodiac]

[valid gazelle]

no i know its a thing

[shadow void]

well, if you cant process it into anything, thats its only purpose

[valid gazelle]

its just.. in this specific event

[wispy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[wispy grove]

tf does that mean bro💀

[ruby sorrel]

I did mention it regarding 12 jade sustain

[valid gazelle]

sorry...

Hikiran*

[subtle finch]

@arctic cedar #1500977084678279208 message

[wispy grove]

[viscid plover]

[arctic cedar]

Thanks, my solver currently just takes in input/output as a graph so I'll have to pick one of em for pipe routing

otherwise the amt. of states to explore is insane

[fervent lodge]

yeah, anticipated

[shadow void]

Someone help me put 20 production lines of Jade Gourd in Marker Stone

[fervent lodge]

if it helps, my internal strategy to designing this kind of stuff is to make things spaced out to just establish the graph first

then treat all connections as springs

[arctic cedar]

this is an actual thing in pcb routing

[fervent lodge]

and then their eventual position kinda pushes everything outwards

[fervent lodge]

yeah it kinda makes sense

we're minimizing the "energy" of the system

[subtle finch]

this is just protein folding in disguise

[fervent lodge]

aic@home

[arctic cedar]

but yeah I'll be honest though, I think huamns are good enough

[ruby sorrel]

have you discovered prions

[craggy oyster]

i think it not. u cant even fit all of the machine needed

[fervent lodge]

yeah, and it's the fun part of the factory too

it is an interesting problem algorithmically though

[arctic cedar]

mhm, I think at a certain point you can reason about why X by Y is mathematically optimal

and I think given like 3-4 days after update people will probably have found it

[fervent lodge]

just the belt length mostly

you always have to connect stuff with belts

[valid gazelle]

nope since in the first place it was designed when SIRcon production is mandatory and not heavy xyranite

[fervent lodge]

that's what makes the graph

so the most optimal solution is the one with the equal amount of buildings and lowest logistics ratio

also is 12x15 optimal or 13x13 optimal

that's the funny also

[arctic cedar]

current score is just bounding box area + total belt len

[fervent lodge]

can also place 1 cell of belt for each connection and see how much space is left over

[subtle finch]

that's what i meant back then to at least "mathematically prove" it's not possible

[fervent lodge]

mine is like this

[ruby sorrel]

but what if you can reuse the same tile for 2 connections

[upper fiber]

where pylon and subpac

[fervent lodge]

air to building / belts, logistics, power cells to building cells

[arctic cedar]

neat, I think for me I just cared about bbox and not much else lol

[subtle finch]

most pylons can be outside

[arctic cedar]

Running pretty optimized code on gpu to just search as much as possible

[fervent lodge]

time to ship wasm blobs in enkad to make people solve stuff for us in the background

[upper fiber]

since when we get 25x25 area pylon!? 😲

[subtle finch]

most*

[upper fiber]

2424 then

[dense blade]

is there any info on the sewage to effluent exchange rate for the purification node in test area

[fervent lodge]

somewhat

[dense blade]

is it just gonna be 4:1

[fervent lodge]

it's funnier

[dense blade]

o is it

[subtle finch]

afaik most schematic pcb auto router algos are still garbage

[craggy oyster]

bruh this is not it. u cant stack the shreader refinder like this lol. plus there is still the sub AIC.. we also need to input pipe

[upper fiber]

15/min xircon eff only

[subtle finch]

that's just moving the goal post , everyone thinks its not possible, but there might be a very low chance that it's not

[shadow void]

#1494923383408820404 message

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fervent lodge]

we''re talking about 8 normal

not 7 + 1

[dreamy jungle]

I want 8 forge sub to be true

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch are you aware what's the highest score blueprint for xira in any aspect ratio is?

[subtle finch]

friut might know better, i dont follow xiranite layouts, there's too many of them

[fervent lodge]

you can just take the cell occupation of that, multiply it by 8 and then that's your "theoretically possible" if it fits into SubPAC with headroom

[upper fiber]

wait for 25x25 pylon and pipe from above input

[meager stream]

h-how did someone can put zipline (its not mine xD) above the pillar arrays

[ancient pier]

Plane tech(bug)

[upper fiber]

get the id, report hack

[meager stream]

Fangyi & Mifu be like:

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/blink-shock-black-girl-tiktok-jrpixie-gif-3477717078731753617

[dreamy jungle]

Single: 15x25
Double: 24x29
Triple: 25x40
Quad: 34x39
These are records i know

[valid gazelle]

Totally not a cancer or fire hazard

60 thermal banks

[dense blade]

why not 64

[valid gazelle]

512

[fervent lodge]

these are bounds

[arctic cedar]

15x25 with included source?

[subtle finch]

mdee5's solution is 16x25

[dense blade]

cooked

[valid gazelle]

I am

[fervent lodge]

but what i'm saying is regardless of x by y, what's the smallest cell footprint

and logistics ratio

as determined by the planner

[arctic cedar]

FWIW I did get 375 no included source I think

but 375 with source is crazy lol

[upper fiber]

with stash for xira and leftover powder?

[daring rapids]

@valid gazelle I think I can move this depot bus port on to the top

with 12 fots, stocking xiranite isn't really important anymore

[valid gazelle]

Use stash

All hail the protocol stash

[craggy oyster]

I never thought of this .

[daring rapids]

stash for xircon

storage mode

[valid gazelle]

Use more stashes

USE ALL THE STASHES YOU NEED

[subtle finch]

even mc piston door records arent well documented, and that's a more popular game

[dreamy jungle]

Didn't count the actual cells occupied

[arctic cedar]

If you have link to 15x25 blueprint would like to see

[dreamy jungle]

Without conduit ig or wdym with source?

[arctic cedar]

with fluid input (with conduit)

[valid gazelle]

I call this... The Golden Bridge of Endfield

[daring rapids]

not really, I just really need an extra depot bus port for the empty space up there

this is where I'll put extra fots

for normal xir

[valid gazelle]

Man why yall have so much space

Is my base really that bad...

[daring rapids]

kyostinv's base have plenty of space

[dreamy jungle]

Ye, mine without because i don't like conduit in xira builds #1478505541147037847 message

[daring rapids]

I used his 1.1 bp and then modified it

[valid gazelle]

I dont even know who the man is

[hoary crag]

fully optimized and compact bases does grant us free space the size of a football pitch

[daring rapids]

the "trust me bro" guy

[shadow void]

"waaaah bp not work"

[valid gazelle]

Raaaaah

This game is so hard

[daring rapids]

Raaah

[valid gazelle]

Trash

Uninstall

[subtle finch]

i havent shared my base in weeks because its so messy

[ruby sorrel]

space? I have so little space I'm back in v4

[upper fiber]

hirakin's messy base

[daring rapids]

the amount of free space in kyostinv's base is insane

[subtle finch]

who's hirakin now 😭

[daring rapids]

[upper fiber]

oh typo, hirikan

[ruby sorrel]

look at these funny things

[daring rapids]

change ur name to hikarin

[marble yarrow]

[ruby sorrel]

hirikan

[shadow void]

Hiki-ran

[dreamy jungle]

That looks wrong

[marble yarrow]

guys im the acid man

[shadow void]

can i get some?

[valid gazelle]

Hakirin

[meager stream]

shiki-kan 🥹

[craggy oyster]

is it all without conduit or not. u know?

[shadow void]

time to manually transfer to V4

[ruby sorrel]

what happened

[shadow void]

[subtle finch]

[marble yarrow]

14M secured

[warm oriole]

you can put anything there, it's a copy pasta

[daring rapids]

share

[shadow void]

gonna be lots of wasted Hvy and Heto if it dosent pan out like you think

[ruby sorrel]

I don't understand this splitter bs anymore

[meager stream]

Outpost stocklimit: h-hold up I c-cant do them all

[serene rock]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[dreamy jungle]

No conduit, im pretty sure 25x40 can be made with conduit since the one i made is closer to 25x39, so it's using the 25x40 space not efficiently

[shadow void]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-11954040389595096870

[serene rock]

Not my best but I make it work

[meager stream]

9.6M stockbills & 2.4M event bills

[craggy oyster]

alright imma cook smt up

[upper fiber]

bro you might run out of yazhen

[arctic cedar]

Will try for a run with 25x40 with conduit ig

[shadow void]

We all gonna be suffering from success when we litterally cant make anything

[dreamy jungle]

Lmk if you got something, im curious

[arctic cedar]

was it all into 1 protocol stash or >1

[valid gazelle]

hi curious

[serene rock]

Its maxed in both i should be fine worse comes to worse i take get rid of shredder 2

[dreamy jungle]

Just one, gotta be power efficient

[upper fiber]

yeah, just 1 shredder is enough, and 1 belt line only to shredding unit

[dreamy jungle]

Ig will do a conduit 25x40 for the fun as well

[upper fiber]

any other criteria? less belt facility use, aesthetic and such

[spark hedge]

90/min: EFO01a651eae2oA43oe5e (Asia) 26x40

Here mine 180

@arctic cedar

[storm junco]

Hello i am here again

[arctic cedar]

well that was quick lmao

[storm junco]

How many line of xyranite to make gord

[arctic cedar]

I didn't even write down the graph yet

ty, unfortunately based in US

[storm junco]

3 line?

[dreamy jungle]

I mean would be nice to be optimized, but it seems the goal is to make 25x40 with conduit using one stash, maybe make that stash optional so that you can connect xira directly to a loader

[hoary crag]

pov: trying to list the gachas where you're called 'commander'

[hoary crag]

xiranite gourd = 3 lines (xiranite)
jade gourd = 1 line (h-xiranite) + 1/5 line (heto)

[spark hedge]

I think this is most effect, no more or less sandleaf.

[dreamy jungle]

Wasn't this the 26x40 conduit?

[spark hedge]

@arctic cedar

[storm junco]

Also how many line of inert xircon inlet to make 1 xircon solution

[dreamy jungle]

[slender scaffold]

How would I go about making my Xirinite production more efficent. Rn its producing like 30 per minute but I feel like I can make it better. I am trying to get more so I can make the event materials. I feel like I might need another carbon shredder for each grinder, but I also feel like I can make it smaller since I have seen people fitting like 6 Forges all together in a single base. Any advice is appreciated because I am trying to learn how to build everything myself but I suck. I included it as a blueprint as well in case that would make it easier for you guys to help

[storm junco]

Via puri

[hoary crag]

4 inert xircon effluent = 1 xircon effluent + 1 water

[storm junco]

So i need 4 pipe?

Of inert?

[ruby sorrel]

yeah missing half the carbon per line

[hoary crag]

more or less yeah

pipe convergers exist btw

[valid gazelle]

the refinery is cooking 1 yazhen into 2 carbon. You are missing 1 extra output with shredder for it

[storm junco]

Can i pipe double inlet to 1 converger

[hoary crag]

most facilities produce/use liquid at a rate of 0.5/s. the only exception are pumps that give you 1/s

pipes have a capacity of 2/s

[spark hedge]

Ok 26x40 bruh

[storm junco]

Do acid produce sewage?

[slender scaffold]

Thank you for the help, so I should put a single shredder into three instead of two? Or do you mean I need more shredders. Sorry for the stupid question, still trying to learn

[hoary crag]

nop

[storm junco]

If i combine it with cuprium..

Do i need to use puri

[hoary crag]

?

[storm junco]

For making hetonite

Or maybe cuprium solution

[hoary crag]

you don't need sewage in hetonite line

just treat the sewage of use it in xircon line for sc batteries if you're not already making them

[storm junco]

Can you purify sewage into normal water

[hoary crag]

for hetonite it's uhh

[spark hedge]

Here @slender scaffold

[slender scaffold]

Oh I see what you mean, I can make that one carbon refiner go into two different shredders since it makes two. Thanks a ton for the help

[hoary crag]

nope

[valid gazelle]

hand on

there's 1 more thing

[hoary crag]

the only purification recipes so far are uhh

4 inert xircon effluent = 1 xircon effluent + 1 water
4 cuprium solution = 1 hetonite solution + 1 acid

[slender scaffold]

Oh that seems insane to build, I hope I can get that good one day, it looks so neat and clean. Thank you for the help as well

[storm junco]

Do you need water to make cuprium dust?

[upper fiber]

that battery factory is messed up.... why some shredder not connected to grinding unit

[valid gazelle]

you can make it like this

[storm junco]

Can you turn back cuprium dust into cuprium

[hoary crag]

nope

cuprium ore -> refining unit -> cuprium -> shredding unit -> cuprium powder -> reactor crucible (+ acid) -> cuprium solution

[hoary crag]

also nope

[storm junco]

Cannot u just make cuprium dust from ore?

[hoary crag]

nope you have to refine it first

[slender scaffold]

Thank you

[storm junco]

Can we refine with acid?

[hoary crag]

...

[ruby sorrel]

imagine if you could generate infinite sewage by turning it back into ore and refining again

[valid gazelle]

yo that's cheating

[storm junco]

How much xyranite maker you can make with new update

8?

[spark hedge]

Next update is 12

[storm junco]

12?

[hoary crag]

8 as of now, 12 by the 14th

[valid gazelle]

i dont think he meant next update...

[storm junco]

Can we make xyranite component?

Bottle

[shadow void]

not my design, but its a 4x12/m JG setup fitting in a outpost. Looks clean but thats alot of space left over. Does enkad tell you if you hit any limits?

[foggy iris]

hmmm wat to do now?

[dreamy jungle]

Woah ur name

[valid gazelle]

what what

[dreamy jungle]

Nah it looks correct nvm

[storm junco]

Do xyranite gord recipe will stay in game after event ended?

[valid gazelle]

[storm junco]

Can we put xyranite into xyranite bottle

[hoary crag]

xiranite components yes

xiranite bottles also yes but for a limited time

[valid gazelle]

[foggy iris]

can we uninstall?

[valid gazelle]

yes

[foggy iris]

yay

[storm junco]

How to speed up 200k prodcution

[marble yarrow]

80x38 270/min half mainAIC xiranite when

[foggy iris]

sleep

[storm junco]

For xyranite

[hoary crag]

...

I should just get back to work

I've been slacking off for too long already 😭

[storm junco]

Do palm savior event meaning palm oil?

🛢️

[ruby sorrel]

hmm so there's 1/11, 3/7, 1/7, 1/5, 2/5, 2/7 there's nothing left to do with this motif I think, unless 1/15 is interesting somehow

[valid gazelle]

1/30 please

[ruby sorrel]

wait that's 1/10

I knew counting was hard

good thing I made the funny ferrori belt

[hoary crag]

waiting for the day someone who's smart enough animates something with this

[ruby sorrel]

that's too smart

[storm junco]

Someone already make belt game

[fervent lodge]

you can easily animate by just prefilling stashes to a required amount and plonking them down

[subtle finch]

they knew

[storm junco]

https://youtu.be/BynRzlfJ5hg?si=cZBB2ff2KPsnClzb

[fervent lodge]

did they vibecode port ffmpeg

[slender scaffold]

So something more along the lines of this? Sorry again for so many questions

[ruby sorrel]

1/30 is just taking 1/6 of 1/5 anyways right

[valid gazelle]

nope that looks correct for 30/min

[ruby sorrel]

so it already exists

[valid gazelle]

[ruby sorrel]

probably

[storm junco]

Owh shieet

[valid gazelle]

wait ill look for it

[ruby sorrel]

might clog too badly with such low rate though

[storm junco]

Can you pipe two belt to one storage?

Will it clogged?

[slender scaffold]

Oh that's awesome to hear. Thanks a ton for all of your help, I am very grateful.

[storm junco]

Ah yes

[valid gazelle]

OH WAIT

@slender scaffold

YOU HAVENT COOKED THE CARBON BLOCKS

I KNEW I FELT SOMETHING WAS OFF

[storm junco]

You can cook it?

[slender scaffold]

Oh damn you are right. Lol thanks for the shout, I was wondering why it felt so much smaller

[ruby sorrel]

it's cooked

[valid gazelle]

charcoaled even

in fact it's cooked twice

twice the charcoal-ness

[teal spindle]

it's weird that we're growing plants for the sole purpose of turning them into carbon

[valid gazelle]

Alchemy

[teal spindle]

feels wasteful

[ruby sorrel]

they get it from the air

it's free

[pulsar cypress]

Btw, if already emptied the event shop.
There's no point on making the jade again?

[ruby sorrel]

well as long as you can sell it for stockbills there's 0 risk regardless of your interpretation of "stockbill limit"

[uncut briar]

mostly only for better option , compare to selling SC

they finally true to their word

"significantly increase outpost stockbill regen"
FROM 5% phase1 to 50% phase2

[pulsar cypress]

Ah.. Oki.. Become normal shop item until event end..

But when event end the remaining gourd gone poof right.?

So stocking it also risky..

[ancient pier]

That's the neat part, they turn into stockbills

[uncut briar]

100% poof, but still no one know if it could be converted into stockbill regardless of outp;ost remaining bill or not

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I wouldn't stock more than outpost stock

[uncut briar]

because certs is certainly not a concern

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Then just low produce and sell all only..
The safety way..

[uncut briar]

most ppl will have outpost near 0 bill, thing is, will it still gave us stockbill when converted beyond that

[ruby sorrel]

I'll have enough to buy chubby lung anyways by the time this ends I think so I'm not gonna risk it

[subtle finch]

sc is actually still more profitable 6.75bills/xiranite compare to jade 6.32bills/xiranite

[storm junco]

Can chubby lung statues block mob?

[ancient pier]

Time to gamba

[uncut briar]

whoaaaa, so why are most ppl go all in heavyX setup

[pulsar cypress]

The img show it only give event shop bill if passing the remaining stockbill.

[storm junco]

Can you put chubby lung statue on v4

[ruby sorrel]

this actually looks so nice, but I've run out of ideas so it's back to doing nothing in game

[subtle finch]

just to sweep the event shop fast or for the memes

[pulsar cypress]

I want to place em in dijang garden..
T^T)

[uncut briar]

if it became event certs, it means useless overproduced then T^T

[uncut briar]

hhhh

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Thats why me ask, coz me already empty the event shop and still have some left.. -_-)

[storm junco]

Does chubby have girl form?

[uncut briar]

TIME TO GO BACK TO SC?????? OwO

time to delete JG setup ;w;

[dire vapor]

Too many gourds, not enough bills...

[pulsar cypress]

Give lipstick and skirt.
U have girl form.

[small creek]

im a scammer?

[ruby sorrel]

wait is that with +30 xira cost from using forge for hxira

[storm junco]

Do you receive wuling bill when you trade gord?

[dire vapor]

No, if you exceed the bill limit, you only get certs

[small creek]

true..

[shadow void]

whats power usage like if it matters

are you using the Hvy for anything else besides Heto comps?

[subtle finch]

im just counting raw mats to price ratio 54/8 vs 120/19

[candid wadi]

what is this for ?

[small creek]

I think jade gourd is still better if u factor in forge count

[ruby sorrel]

idk maybe someone will figure out a use for 2/7 of 30/min

[small creek]

Please i dont wanna be branded a scammer

[ruby sorrel]

jade is better cus it clears outpost, sc doesn't

[marble yarrow]

have you done the total one? like the infographic?

coz when u do it like this, jade is better

[subtle finch]

jade is heto+xiranite tho, so it doesnt make sense to compare it like that
sc+heto part also clears the shop

[pulsar cypress]

Plus it did cost many originium and energy for facilities?

[ruby sorrel]

idk how you're getting 19xira per gourd

that reads like you're adding 30 xira cost because it costs a forge to make hxira

single item clear is more convenient anyways

[subtle finch]

omg, maybe im the scammer

[uncut briar]

i also think JADE should be more profittable especially during event where they boost outpost regen by 50% (hugeee margin)

that jade specifically for event should be better to outpace it

[subtle finch]

calc says 19 xiranite cost, but heavy is only 14

[ruby sorrel]

calc is weird

[rocky niche]

mine is exact opposite, many bills, not enough gourds

[subtle finch]

@pulsar cypress false alarm, jade might still be better, sorry