aic-factory

[vale topaz]

ok, tonight, redesign sandleaf farm for double and 6 version.

[small creek]

stop being stubborn, this has been long established

the reason we even make SCW is because its more bills per orig and xiranite spent

If it really is just a pretty number, then put money where your mouth is and make LCW

[vale topaz]

hope won't reach the limit due to more power pylon required....

[atomic fiber]

more like outdated info. that only true, if you haven't have wuling battery 80k on valley, and almost maxed amount on wuling depot

[small creek]

Thats just not a valid metric at all

The point is to make more with less

Not fill up the depots

[atomic fiber]

you can't make more, if you are capped

[small creek]

True, we should just dismantle our entire factory once we get 80k of everything

[atomic fiber]

yes

[small creek]

🤷

This argument has reached the most pointless depth it can reach

[atomic fiber]

which is dismantle sc is probably no a bad decision, when you have sc maxed

and go heavy xir instead

[atomic fiber]

which part of "once you have battery maxed on depot, produce other things" is hard to understand?

[small creek]

Its easy to understand

and I think its stupid

[lone plover]

who the fuck has SCW capped in depot
if you're making hetonite parts you're not keeping up with inflation

[small creek]

Ofc i separate the idea from the person

The idea, is stupid

[atomic fiber]

skill issue

i will probably just go 6/min sc?

then go full heavy xir

[valid gazelle]

Damn i went to do chores and we have heated debate here

[small creek]

Rare aic fac debate

Usually its discussion abt some weird theoretical

Now its actual debate lol

[valid gazelle]

Have you come to a conclusion?

[lone plover]

is capping in Wuling even a theoretical atm

[viscid plover]

i wouldn't take the opinion of someone who doesn't know how to use depot stash seriously

[atomic fiber]

if you power your wuling with HC battery, it possible

[viscid plover]

yes

[atomic fiber]

it been done

[lone plover]

1.1 maybe, but with 1.2 diverting all Cuprium and the new forges over to the shiny new parts you can barely keep up with outpost restock until you cap on Hetotite parts

[small creek]

Atp i think we’re just gonna agree to disagree

bill/resource is a very real and valuable metric

if the other side cant accept that, then discussion falls apart

[pulsar cypress]

Im already capping swc.. J°-°)a

[atomic fiber]

it took like around 27/min HC battery consumption, for my base

i already do it for quite long

[lone plover]

I was using full HC battery lines and still not keeping up restock 13.25 SCW production

[pulsar cypress]

This + already have around 40k at v4 base..

[atomic fiber]

restock?

[lone plover]

outpost bill banking

basically I wasn't hitting zero every day

[atomic fiber]

how you not keeping up with that? even normal player already empting that

massive krill issue

[pulsar cypress]

Power consumption problem maybe..
Or factory design problem, not max production..

[lone plover]

All Cuprium and 3 forges on Hetonite Gear Comps
So literally only bats were being sold

[small creek]

13.25 sounds pretty max

for scw at least

[atomic fiber]

well, there your problem, you don't stockpile the battery, but stockpile other things

[pulsar cypress]

Maybe share ores and items aic report for clearer understanding.

[lone plover]

Yeah my point is if you're crafting the new gear you don't overcap on anything

[atomic fiber]

in normal sense, yes. but you can further boost it, with valley Cubes manual transfer. tho it kinda too sweaty even for me, not even me do that

[pulsar cypress]

Im crafting new gear.. Slowly..
Just not sacrificing the other production..

[atomic fiber]

yeah, i prio battery stockpile, i don't prio hetonite stockpile

[pulsar cypress]

So still can empty the bills..

[atomic fiber]

crafting new gear is like only need 1k? probably less?

it can be done, in less than a day

then dismantle it

[lone plover]

artificing and paranoid hoarding

plus you need the heto for other stuff

[pulsar cypress]

Even with slowly, im already go 20k+ parts, 10k+ gear..
40-50k heto rocks..
Already more than enough..

[atomic fiber]

artificing, don't need new gear 💀
are you using new gear? that one eat more wuling bucks, to make them, using the old gear for artificing is the normal way

[lone plover]

but what if gear in the next couple patches need this gear for artificing for whatever reason

[upper fiber]

then you uninstall

[pulsar cypress]

[upper fiber]

unless the devs are braindead, nah

[lone plover]

I will sit on my 40k pile of gear components while the rest of you drown (aka have to run the comp line for a day)

[atomic fiber]

well.. i can start stockpiling it now. but the main problem are probably the normal player, they will definitely complain

[small creek]

Me with 58k of the first 2 comps

gonna make 58k of heto soon

[atomic fiber]

i haven't start stockpiling the heto gear comp at all btw, i only have like 4k

[small creek]

I have friends who have to go back to making xiracomp just to artifice

[pulsar cypress]

Nah.. Its steadily increasing in all stock..
If really need gear, can just spam make with heto part and hxira..
Wont take long..

[atomic fiber]

i have 70+k xir comp, so i'm safe

[pulsar cypress]

Have bunch of rocks and part in stock..

The other old comp ig still around 40k+ also..

[tribal crescent]

can manifold take 2 fluid types

[valid gazelle]

nope

we wish

[tribal crescent]

shit game

[valid gazelle]

epic

[undone pagoda]

someone slide me a blueprint for heto parts for asia server please 😭

[tribal crescent]

is simple bro

[undone pagoda]

MINE AINT WORKIN

[tribal crescent]

is that passthrough tech

crazy tuff

[lone plover]

bro...store it in the depot then just use an unloader

[tribal crescent]

you better than me

[pulsar cypress]

Its just heto rock -> fitting unit -> heto part

[undone pagoda]

this is me trying to make heto rocks

[pulsar cypress]

Isnt that akarin bp with backfeed liquid..
Kinda tricky if u don't understand backfeed liquid system..

[undone pagoda]

i have no clue someone told me to copy theirs and

it is NOT working dawg

[tribal crescent]

just make it simple

[undone pagoda]

i dont have much room rn

[tribal crescent]

fluid passs through is a mess

[pulsar cypress]

Mine only 4 copium output old design if u still want.. Not 6 output..
I use the 2 other output for syringe A.

[tribal crescent]

just plug and play tbh

[undone pagoda]

someone just slide me a good one that isnt whatever the fuck im doing

[tribal crescent]

cupirum dust

into fluid machine

[undone pagoda]

so much wasted space..

[tribal crescent]

plug acid

it's simpel

like it that way

[pulsar cypress]

Like this..
U need to make syringe A also if using mine, for the extra 2 copium output.

[tribal crescent]

not like you use any less power

[valid gazelle]

yet it works...

[tribal crescent]

and spaced out measn easier to troubleshoot

i honest had a stroke seeing yours

[undone pagoda]

how much parts do you make a min?

[tribal crescent]

[undone pagoda]

im having one trying to manage it 💀

[tribal crescent]

i use all my cuprium

so 22.5

[undone pagoda]

22 PARTS A MIN?

[tribal crescent]

oh

parts

[pulsar willow]

Not that much to be honest

[tribal crescent]

22.5 henonite per min

so uh

[pulsar willow]

4.5 then

[tribal crescent]

yeah

good maffs

me bad at maffs

[pulsar willow]

It's just 75%

[undone pagoda]

better than wtv the fucki was doing

[tribal crescent]

anyway yeah just

space it out

and don't try passthrough

[undone pagoda]

fair

passthrough does make shit confusing

[pulsar willow]

Why?

[undone pagoda]

so how many reactors should i be using?

[tribal crescent]

it's too complicated

and i don't need to save sapce

[pulsar willow]

Does passthrough mess up everything?

[tribal crescent]

his does

[undone pagoda]

not really if you know how to do it

[tribal crescent]

idk what bro did

[undone pagoda]

but idk how to do it so

[pulsar willow]

What is there to know though

[pulsar cypress]

For nub brain like mine.. Kinda.. Sometimes.. XD

[tribal crescent]

1 reactor for 1 dust

so if you all in 6

and 2 purification

[pulsar willow]

Isn't it like a daisy-chain

[tribal crescent]

you can merge 2 output of 2 reactor

into 1 purification

wait

hm

[pulsar willow]

You can merge 4 outputs into 1 purification unit

[undone pagoda]

im so confused

eve3ryones saying different shit now

fahh

[pulsar willow]

And 2 purification units into 1 reactor

[tribal crescent]

oh no

he uses expanded crucible

uhh

let's see

i'll see if i can make sense of your bp

[tribal crescent]

merge 2 output of 2 reactor

[undone pagoda]

im not using my own blueprint i fuckin binned it after saving it as a just in case

💀

[tribal crescent]

purification unit can take 2

so 4 reactor for 1 puri

[undone pagoda]

[valid gazelle]

[undone pagoda]

no blueprint to just slap on?

im abit brain dead rn

i spent all of yesterday redoing my other sub aic

ok so, max efficiency for just the parts i dont need components rn is 6 reactors?

[small creek]

what are u tryna do

[pulsar willow]

yeah 6 reactor crucibles

[small creek]

1.1 and 1.2 dont differ much

[undone pagoda]

make hetonite comps

[small creek]

Oh

[tribal crescent]

uhhhh

not enough acid?

[small creek]

uhh, i guess u can have this #1494628329851064402

[tribal crescent]

i think

at full power that's like 0.75 acid/min

which is enough for 1 reactor

[undone pagoda]

gnna try to copy it

[tribal crescent]

but you have ti manage backflow

ok

screw this

[tender thistle]

Witness my spaghetti!

[tribal crescent]

just use pump

and dump

be simple

acid is free

[viscid plover]

power phobia maxxing

[valid gazelle]

you call that spaghetti ?

[tender thistle]

I let everything clog so it only uses 168/m xiranite for 12/m heavy

And then using remainder 12/m xiranite on goards

[undone pagoda]

cause this is currently one half of my area im working with i have my heavy xira turned off

[tribal crescent]

i dumped the excess acid into the pool

[pulsar willow]

I made this thing for my hetonite production

[tender thistle]

Compared to the pro's here defoz 💀

[valid gazelle]

💀 💀 💀

[tribal crescent]

@undone pagoda if you want to flowthrough i think you need to put 4 line of reactor onto 1 purification unit

[jovial breach]

Just loop it

[tribal crescent]

so that purification unit can supply 1 reactor permanently

this 3 3 set up looks messy

ngl

maybe you can do sth with it

[undone pagoda]

it was 💔

[tribal crescent]

or ask harunachan this is above my paygrade

[tender thistle]

Tripping on acid wtf 🤣

[valid gazelle]

you gettin paid ?

[tribal crescent]

zzz

[pulsar willow]

loop only helps if you are at 8 reactors

[tribal crescent]

my pipes are full

[valid gazelle]

i dump it back

[dreamy jungle]

i do this for teto

[tribal crescent]

ye just dump

[valid gazelle]

dang

[pulsar willow]

yeah what's the problem with dumping lol

[tribal crescent]

since the output is not whole

[valid gazelle]

FRUIT dropping another bp

[tribal crescent]

you will have some clogging issues later

not very desirable

[pulsar willow]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-adorable-cute-friend-shaped-gif-16113739516152899139

teto

[tribal crescent]

10 power

or sth idk

[viscid plover]

my magnum opus

[undone pagoda]

cuprium depleter is what hetonite is bro

[tribal crescent]

expanded pumps out 2 fluid

but takes twice the power

compared to a reactor

just use normal if you don't need to save space

[undone pagoda]

right so what im seeing

• Atleast 4 shredders

• Max shredders are 8

• 6 Shredders?

• 1 or 2 purification units

• 6 Reactors

• Possibly 1 expanded

[midnight harness]

thats not bad

[tribal crescent]

6 shredders

you only have 6 lines of cuprium

[undone pagoda]

aight

[tribal crescent]

do you want to all in heto

[undone pagoda]

so i should follow that guide

no

im making cuprium bottles for syringes rn

[tribal crescent]

2 should be enough

so 4 lines of cuprium refinement

and 4 shredder

you can do less if you want

2 refinement for cuprium parts into syringes

or 4

max is 6 so balance it out

[undone pagoda]

alr

[tribal crescent]

just do one like my image i sent

[undone pagoda]

yeah im gonna retry completely from scratch, probably 4 shredders with still 6 reactors or?

[viscid plover]

for heto? 1 expanded and 3 normal crucible suffice
if you want make drinks too use 2 expanded 2 normal

[tribal crescent]

and output the puri to another reactor

[tribal crescent]

1 reactor for 1 shredder

1 shredder for 1 refinement

[pulsar willow]

1 purification unit for 4 reactors

[undone pagoda]

alright ill set up 3 lines for now see how that goes

before i start should i put like depo busses on each side and reorganise abit

or the one line in middle should suffice

[pulsar willow]

I would demolish it honestly lol

[valid gazelle]

^^^

[undone pagoda]

LOL

[valid gazelle]

i would definitely smash everything and build from the start

and replan everything

which i did

[undone pagoda]

yeah ive been slowly going through rebuilding everything yueah

i did it yesterday for my tang tang one

[valid gazelle]

no like

the entire thing planned out

[undone pagoda]

yes

thats what i do

[pulsar willow]

yeah I just rebuilt my base for a friend just so he won't miss out on event

[undone pagoda]

ive been kind of leaving this one open for now for the next line of forges releasing

[pulsar willow]

and it took me way more time than I expected

[undone pagoda]

last one took me lik 4 hours

ngl

[valid gazelle]

damn

the dedication

[pulsar willow]

because his originium yield was 110

[valid gazelle]

💀

[undone pagoda]

ive somehow just balanced mine out

[viscid plover]

this was mine before i remade it

[valid gazelle]

[pulsar willow]

we have 480 now

[viscid plover]

we learn as we remake

[undone pagoda]

thyat looked so peak tho 😭😭

[pulsar willow]

looks like organized chaos

I like it

[viscid plover]

i meant the one in the reply

[undone pagoda]

see then do i wait until the next line of forges to rebuild my entire cardiac rem station or like

fuck it we ball type beat

cuz idk if theyll release another aic station with it

[valid gazelle]

damn yall making peak

[pulsar willow]

do as you please

[valid gazelle]

masterpieces

[pulsar willow]

it's your factory after all

[undone pagoda]

IM TORN

[viscid plover]

thorn?

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-thorns-take-your-meds-delulu-thorns-arknights-gif-5116273559679561527

[valid gazelle]

meanwhile mine

[undone pagoda]

see if i know theyre releasing another sub aic area id be sweet but thats the thing

[valid gazelle]

😭 😭 😭

[jovial breach]

How is your subpac so full

[valid gazelle]

inflation

[jovial breach]

How are you gonna fit 4 more forge

[undone pagoda]

no clue dawg im raw dogging this shit

[valid gazelle]

i already did

it's not there

[undone pagoda]

ive currently got an area planned out for atleast one more forge

its 3 more being added right?

4*

my bad

[valid gazelle]

the monstrosity i created (and about to smash and replan everything all over cuz this is bad)

[static isle]

my Jingyu valley is just 7x forge

[valid gazelle]

expecting the unexpected just doesn't make sense

[undone pagoda]

room for forges me thinks

[vale topaz]

how about go modular / procedural instead.
you won't get too frustrated or even require mass rework when there is a change.
example, creating a plant loop on its own before using plant output for the main line ( like xiranite )
or creating a cuprium to dust process on its own before using the dust for hetonite line.
downside is using more space, but can isolate certain problem without too much rework.

[valid gazelle]

my base is modular

[undone pagoda]

i use this alot

plant farm goes crazy

[valid gazelle]

inflation

time to smash that medicine station cuz it redundant

[tribal crescent]

[vale topaz]

you know this is .... wrong , right ?

[valid gazelle]

actually gonna smash everything and rebuild..

[pulsar cypress]

My base is... Anything i wanna place in..
XD

[undone pagoda]

[valid gazelle]

the protocol stash with 10 billion sandleaf is throwing me off

[tribal crescent]

wthat

what

[undone pagoda]

worked in valley 4 why not here

[tribal crescent]

[jovial breach]

Man adding more belts as if it would magically increase the yield

[valid gazelle]

uhm...

[undone pagoda]

it lets it back up when im running low

[tribal crescent]

ummmmmmmmmmm

no that's

not the worst part

[undone pagoda]

so if i somehow need to start using more of something ive already got a backup of seeds that itll shred through quickly lmao

[tribal crescent]

does anyone tell you yazhen/jincao only grows 1 seed from 1 plant

[vale topaz]

the mistake, yazhen / jincao only require 1 seeder and 1 planter and their output can be represented by 1 belt, not dual belts like that.
sandleaf is correct, 1 seeder + 2 planter, but the same with output, can be represented by 1 belt, not dual or triple belt like that

[valid gazelle]

because... yazhen and jincao grows 2 plants.. from 1 seed

[tribal crescent]

wait i got it reversed

[valid gazelle]

so you only need 1 planter and 1 seeder...

[tribal crescent]

lol

[undone pagoda]

damn

[valid gazelle]

this is basically the best it can get......

[undone pagoda]

isee

[valid gazelle]

uhm..

[undone pagoda]

let me fix ts

[tribal crescent]

bro it's alr in 1.0

how did you

🥀

[undone pagoda]

im not an enginner leave me aLONE

[valid gazelle]

oh hi hikarin

[vale topaz]

yeah, you will free more space or try to combo 2 wuling plant loop into 1 close location due to water can feed 2 factory unit.

[tribal crescent]

bro it's just

reading

🥀

the pitfall

[valid gazelle]

eh..... how do i deal with this..

a triple xyranite line.. ?

[pulsar cypress]

No torch, creepy will blow it up..

[fervent lodge]

.2carbon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1499046010767540295/image.png?ex=69f407a3&is=69f2b623&hm=b76944d9e0c26d68a5761379754dd8d1247ddf1fe18ad07aea77832a647bb8d7&

[undone pagoda]

ts confusing bro this is the hydroplanting basic one it gives you

so i was like oh yeah makes sense

[tribal crescent]

they did?

[ancient pier]

How many heavy xiranite and hetonite do we need to hoard to make 20k jade gourd for the trim medal?

[undone pagoda]

NAH WAIT THATS MY ONE

lmk

LMFAO

[vale topaz]

no idea whose bp is that, but that is wrong....

[undone pagoda]

im stupid leave me alone

BOUTTA HAVE SO MUCH ROOM

[valid gazelle]

(i can use this now)

[vale topaz]

it's ok, everyday you tinker with the factory, you'll find something new and require to optimize

[heavy mango]

pretty stupid for being yvonnes wife

smh

[tribal crescent]

.knownt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[undone pagoda]

the other day i was told that buckflower is redundant in wuling because wuling plants give 2 carbon and i think i rethought my life

[heavy mango]

you'd think she would teach you a thing or two....

[undone pagoda]

she took the smarts

[tribal crescent]

well

uh

[vale topaz]

i also did that, using sandleaf

[tribal crescent]

i guess you take the tutorial next time

[heavy mango]

see, this is why I'm the stupidest of all

[valid gazelle]

time to optimize...

[heavy mango]

I KNEW wuling plants were better... but I just liked using buckflower more because i like red :3

[undone pagoda]

what

[heavy mango]

Gespenst you didnt use Sandleaf Powder to make Carbon did you

say it aint so

[vale topaz]

sandleaf into carbon, you use buckle, i used sandleaf

[tribal crescent]

water outlet

[heavy mango]

you beautiful fool

[tribal crescent]

inside base

ew

😡

[valid gazelle]

simple yet effective

[tribal crescent]

could have used better piping with just border water

instead of

that

[pulsar willow]

not as peak as yours, I won't rebuild I think...

[heavy mango]

[valid gazelle]

wdym mine is a whole pasta mess

😭

[pulsar willow]

it's an organized pasta!

[tribal crescent]

should i merge the pipes

[pulsar willow]

I would say it's a lazagna

[tribal crescent]

the hetonite pipes

[jovial breach]

Perlifumo

[tribal crescent]

plugging 2 different outputs is faster right

than just merging 1

wait

flow rate is 2/s

maybe i can just merge?

since it's not 2/s

[pulsar willow]

yeah

[valid gazelle]

i merge

[undone pagoda]

so this is better yes?

[vale topaz]

yes

[undone pagoda]

for sand

[tribal crescent]

b

but

why 2

2 belts

[vale topaz]

oh yeah, the 2nd planter 2 belt, not useful

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[jovial breach]

^

[dreamy jungle]

add it to your base, it helps with production https://enkad.enka.network/?id=X9y9C4Y9x1s2W6

[vale topaz]

still peak as throne room

[meager stream]

except your sandleaf output crafted into powders/carbons, nah 2 or 3 lines make sense

[valid gazelle]

i can make a hecta-xyranite production line....... but then it feels off with the xyranite/heavy xyranite ratio...

dang it why does sandleaf gives 3 powders

(nah jk its useful)

[vale topaz]

my tang tang village waiting its 8th forge to be installed

[pulsar willow]

you can do it like this if you need powder

[valid gazelle]

amazing how you can squeeze 7 forges in..

[meager stream]

every grinding unit crafting needs it (a sandpowder)

[tribal crescent]

you can squeeze 8

[valid gazelle]

amazing

[tribal crescent]

but since we need heavy xira

eh

[jovial breach]

How

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[dreamy jungle]

you made 8 xira sub?

[vale topaz]

by removing the plant part, can squeeze 8

[valid gazelle]

im just trying to deal with my extra sandleaf powder...

[tribal crescent]

[dreamy jungle]

someone made 10 with that approach

[tribal crescent]

i'm not that crazy with optimization

so i just uh

can you guess what this was meant to be

[jovial breach]

[valid gazelle]

idk but this is throwing me off

[static isle]

how much time can i run this before I run out of xira

[tribal crescent]

it was originally meant to make heavy xira

the forge was in the place of the moulding unit

[vale topaz]

8 will be close

[tribal crescent]

next week it should be back

[meager stream]

around 8 hours i guess

[undone pagoda]

so much better wtf

[tribal crescent]

he knows wuling now

[undone pagoda]

wait let me

[tribal crescent]

wait

what

[fervent lodge]

i like how you keep spreading perlifumo

[tribal crescent]

is that 1 pipe in 3 planter

[fervent lodge]

did you see the "making of" perflifumo trailer

[tribal crescent]

[valid gazelle]

you see the 💤

[tribal crescent]

is that even enought water

[static isle]

phase 2 gourds will require heavy xira and hetonite right?

[tribal crescent]

seems so

[jovial breach]

Yep

[tribal crescent]

6/m

eat your heavy xira like breakfast

[meager stream]

i prefer "PerliWaaaaaaa" xD

[jovial breach]

I dont eat breakfast

[undone pagoda]

yeah gimme a second im getting rid of oild ones

im going to upgrade the conduits to the dual ones

[static isle]

ye that's why I've started up heavy xira prod again and throttling T1 gourd down to 2/min

[jovial breach]

Same thing anyway

You just stop gourd as soon as you get 40k of it

[tribal crescent]

can you send me 30k

[valid gazelle]

i wish they would remove the 5-per-crafting limit

[tribal crescent]

true

wait

jincao infusion gamer

[fervent lodge]

ok got 300k event points what's next

[tribal crescent]

nah he doesn't know ball

[tribal crescent]

buy out p1 shop

sleep

[valid gazelle]

jincao and yazhen

[tribal crescent]

go make your other stuff

[fervent lodge]

nah 600k points next

[tribal crescent]

actually

keep making gourd imo

[static isle]

or let us plug a shredder somewhere

[fervent lodge]

we will check by the end of the event, anyone who doesn't have 5 million event points left over will be kicked from the group

[autumn maple]

the meme continues

[tribal crescent]

i love pwm

[valid gazelle]

i tried

[tribal crescent]

he did not try

wait

[tribal crescent]

is that a console player

in this day and age

[fervent lodge]

thorny yazhen

[static isle]

that's a 1/1024 split

[tribal crescent]

no

1/512

[autumn maple]

or controller user

[tribal crescent]

[tribal crescent]

same deal

bad

KB better

[valid gazelle]

objective

[static isle]

ye sry
miscounted one row

[undone pagoda]

i have so much space now

[static isle]

how much power is that anyway

[undone pagoda]

i feel so stupid thankyall Lmao

[autumn maple]

controller vs kb are preference in this kind of game imo

FPS are different case

[static isle]

ye controller in gameplay is fine
it's not fun when you're doing AIC however

[valid gazelle]

its ez tho

i would say no to fps

[static isle]

I'm on PC but I use a controller for EF
yet still go back to KBM for fac stuff

[valid gazelle]

but this is easy

[autumn maple]

im not sure about the controller side since i havent try it, but i can tell that controller has its own advantage in the battle (in this kind of game) vs keyboard

[undone pagoda]

im very smart

girlfailure extraordinare

[tribal crescent]

3200/512

so uh

6.25

[static isle]

ye but that's not one battery going in

one 30/m line is what, 64000k?

[tribal crescent]

3200

oh right

30/m

[undone pagoda]

yall are making the big boy ones 😭😭

[static isle]

that's 125 watts

if you're outputing SCW from depot or main

[tribal crescent]

ye

[tribal crescent]

the bigger the smaller

the smaller the bigger

[static isle]

I'm at 4.47k so I don't bother doing PWM

it's just 1 SCW + 1 HCV (4.5k)

[jovial breach]

Transfering hcv 💀

[tribal crescent]

i transfer dense originium

[jovial breach]

You're saying you dont bother making a permanent pwm and do manual transfer once a while instead

[tribal crescent]

to make more batt

just make more sc

you have free xircon with puri

currently heto+puri xircon won't even breach 30 ferrium dust/m

wait

or does it

oh

[ruby sorrel]

no, puri means xiranite used for eff is worth 5/4 previous

[jovial breach]

Im storing that now

[tribal crescent]

i think if i all in hetonite then it will eat more

oh dear

well sucks

[vale topaz]

milestone is 800k, so maybe reach that 1st ?

[tribal crescent]

back to syringe

[jovial breach]

The purify is literally another forge if you think about it

[fervent lodge]

oh right, there's a trim medal

well, in 2 days it will be mine

softball event

[static isle]

ye but it saves on SCW you can sell

[fervent lodge]

they should make the medal show the total amount of event points earned like in ZZZ

[static isle]

you're not selling enough in V4 anyway if you're at 18/18/24

[ruby sorrel]

800k is just 20k 40cost items, jade gourds are going to be worth around that much?

[vale topaz]

well, according to 'some source' it is 120 or 160 / pcs.
but the recipe kinda pain, with the starting process require 20 seconds, 2nd step another 10 sec, 3rd step another 10 sec

[ruby sorrel]

initial lag and then it produces 6/min like everything else no?

[vale topaz]

yes

[tribal crescent]

does jincao and yazhen have different color

on the map

[ancient charm]

.elasticpeak

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086697853087814/1494643190752612393/pricepeaks-bread4.jpg?ex=69e35a71&is=69e208f1&hm=0eaddbf8d781e41d76cd55dbc82b3a77f70657c029ce9f8cc9074d21a061f34f&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

[vale topaz]

map color ? you meant liquid ?

[tribal crescent]

yes

[valid gazelle]

it does

[tribal crescent]

yesssss

[vale topaz]

just slight difference

[valid gazelle]

wait no it doesnt

im tripping

[ruby sorrel]

expanded?

[fluid fog]

Heck Yeah bottle's up those liquids

[ruby sorrel]

double meds is reg isn't it? 5 slots?

[valid gazelle]

im passing through some stuffs

[ruby sorrel]

[valid gazelle]

nah who am i kidding this is bad

im waiting until the 14th so i can rebuild everything

[ruby sorrel]

reg is 1 tile smaller

[valid gazelle]

i know

[ruby sorrel]

50 power to passthrough the middle ⚡

[valid gazelle]

good energy allocation

[fluid fog]

not really worth to save energy, we have alot of it to produce

[ruby sorrel]

1.1 habits

[subtle finch]

im converting stocked batteries now to heavy xiranite, so that's never true for me

[fathom grotto]

ok im late to the update but im doing the AIC thing now and im confused about the expanded crucible
do you still need at least 2 expanded crucibles to produce a full efficiency sc battery unit?

bruh

i was hoping this almagamation could be replaced with 1 single thing

oh well

[ruby sorrel]

that was always going to be impossible without double timing a single recipe

[fathom grotto]

bro if this expanded crucible had 3 input ports we could actually do it

oh wait nvm

[hexed vector]

they should add the ability to scoop up liquid from crucibles, its such a hassle to clean up clogged ones

[fathom grotto]

thats still 1 normal crucible + 1 expanded cruicible

[ruby sorrel]

yeah it's not even about the input ports, you can mix inputs anyways since total volume would be less than throughput

[subtle finch]

you can do 1 normal, 1 expanded, if you can glitch the reactor

https://youtu.be/l7KVq63xw2I

[fathom grotto]

ngl the crucible upgrade didnt save that much space for my battery unit if im being honest

[ruby sorrel]

and then you realise if you want to mix meds you have to split an expanded back into 2 regs anyways

[vale topaz]

from normal 5 crucible + 2 cuprium refinery for sewage input into 2 expanded + 1 cuprium refinery.
that's already a lot.

[brittle sedge]

it went from 5 to 3 units per line though, maybe not much but it's something

[marble yarrow]

hoarding society

[cyan forge]

hmmm am only running 20/min xira for my gourd. will i be daijobu?

[fathom grotto]

ngl maybe its just the way i designed my factory that makes it hard for me to capitalise off the space efficiency

[marble yarrow]

trust

[fathom grotto]

and also maybe the fact that im in an exam period that really makes me not want to do this shit

[subtle finch]

im in too deep in sunk-cost now, i can't back down anymore

[marble yarrow]

bro is wolf of the wall street

[ruby sorrel]

it's just taking left motif and collapsing it into right motif, well stuff works even if you dont' change it

the hetonite stuff is new though and might be worth thinking about

[fathom grotto]

ok for this new region update whats the max efficiency n stuffs

like whats my target output

[fathom grotto]

oh damn i didnt think about inputing the xircon from 1 crucible to another
im stealing that idea thank you

[subtle finch]

the event kinda put everything on hold rn

[fervent lodge]

who up selling they gourd

[ruby sorrel]

12/min sc uses all your local orig, 180/min cuprium you have to do something with, 30/min ferrium after the SC you can do stuff with

[marble yarrow]

(2 weeks of how to fit +4 forge here)

[fathom grotto]

12/min sc is still the max output?

[ruby sorrel]

I bet you hit fac limit even if you can fit it somehow

[fervent lodge]

the outside purifiers

[ruby sorrel]

well you can import orig and make more

13.25 if you meta orig

[marble yarrow]

sacrificing my ziplines for fac limit

[subtle finch]

can you tuck in those stashes inline with the grinders so you get 2 more rows?

[tribal crescent]

@jovial breach

a new pool

[fathom grotto]

12 sc/min is barely below the region stock bills restock rate

[marble yarrow]

yeah thats step 1, imma have to change this grinders taking up space due to depot bus

[fathom grotto]

my batteries in my storage is depleting
what else are we making that isnt the thing in the event?

[fervent lodge]

i feel some people here might be spending 80% of the time in the planner at this point

[tribal crescent]

chat

what are the pools on the map

i need more pools

[marble yarrow]

you also need to sell hetonite parts

[subtle finch]

not to mention we're getting 2 more cuprium lanes along with the 4 forge

[tribal crescent]

is there any fillable pool in the city

[ruby sorrel]

idk I like meds cus both outposts take them

[tribal crescent]

TWO WHOLE MORE CUPRIUM

OH MY GOD

HOW GRACIOUS

HAHAHAHAHAAH

[fathom grotto]

huh its not showing the item for me

[fervent lodge]

pray they're high purity

[ruby sorrel]

yeah you need lv3

[tribal crescent]

hetonite is stocakde only

[fathom grotto]

oh wait nvm its in sky kings flat

[ruby sorrel]

or that

[tribal crescent]

chat why is there so few pool

😭

[fathom grotto]

so whatever i made in 1.1 can be left alone, with a few minor tweaks, and then i can just focus on making the hentonite part

lets gooo

[ruby sorrel]

yeah just play with the actual new stuff

[marble yarrow]

here, jingyu

[dreamy jungle]

Best tool

[ruby sorrel]

you can upgrade old stuff later if you still have fun/time

[subtle finch]

maybe you can use the stashless 7 forge layout, so the core isnt in a weird spot

[tribal crescent]

it's filled 🥀

i need MORE

[fathom grotto]

im guessing i have to make heavy xiranite to make it, which conveniently requires 4 forges which has just been added

[ruby sorrel]

currently only heto comps need hxira, but it's useful to make some anyways

[fathom grotto]

e

[cyan forge]

[tribal crescent]

aslo

jincao does not differ in color

on the map

[subtle finch]

nowadays i only take around 30mins to make the production that i need there
since most are temporary, and doesn't need much space optimization

[tribal crescent]

why HG

[subtle finch]

i went from 0 heavy xiranite reactor, to all heavy xiranite reactor

[sterile stratus]

what

[cyan forge]

i wonder if i can make my factory in advance for the last recipe

[fathom grotto]

ok legit how tf does this thing on the right work
If the right expanded crucible makes the xircon and inputs to the left expanded crucible
Where is the left crucible getting sewage from to make xircon?
Right crucible only sends 1 xircon every 2 seconds and full efficiency requires 1 every 1 second

[jovial breach]

Still need to ublock the formula

[ruby sorrel]

it makes it when producing xircon

[subtle finch]

now that i think about it, combine those 2, and im ready for the 12 forge

[fathom grotto]

oh yeah

[cyan forge]

don't u just need to put things in to unlock the formula?

[ruby sorrel]

so you actually make xircon first before the eff on the left side

[fathom grotto]

im stooped

stuped

[undone pagoda]

1 or 2 for purification units creating heto?

im running 3 reactors and 1 expanded

[ruby sorrel]

1 per 4

[undone pagoda]

aight thx!!

[fathom grotto]

what a weird ratio bro

[brittle sedge]

no the formula is locked behind a quest, you can pre-plan the layout though

[ruby sorrel]

well it takes 4 things and purifies it to 1 thing

[undone pagoda]

ignore how ugly it looks, but this works yeah?

[fathom grotto]

im sure it becomes convenient when i have 4 inert xircon and i conveniently need 1 extra to do sth in the future

[cyan forge]

oh... i see

oh welp

[ruby sorrel]

looks about right

[fathom grotto]

check back in 2 hours and if it stalls it didnt work
repeat n try again lol

[undone pagoda]

thx!!

[ruby sorrel]

wait you missed input on bottom crucible

[undone pagoda]

max production 🔥

[tribal crescent]

will HG do sth with jincao/jazhen liquid chat

it can heal but like

surely

there's gotta be sth

[fathom grotto]

my ass just looks back and forth again to see anything goes wrong
and if anything went wrong then it means ive wasted another 10 hours of 0 productivity

[undone pagoda]

its just this it feeds through currently

[fathom grotto]

daily life of a factory planner

[fathom grotto]

tangtang's making new strides with this one

[ruby sorrel]

dust isn't going in you missed a tile of belt

[undone pagoda]

OH

ur goated thx

[meager stream]

[undone pagoda]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-front-man-squid-game-2-happy-celebration-gif-12369111202088932661

[brittle sedge]

good, now go for 22.5

[meager stream]

https://tenor.com/view/gugugaga-penguin-gif-17293111884390271684

[tribal crescent]

nah

15 is enough tuff

[fathom grotto]

before

after

holy clean

im not assed enough to try and capitalize on the free space and whatever the fuck the purification unit is making so im just gonna leave this

[jovial breach]

I think you'll need to do some event quest for that

[glad needle]

oh damn i need to prepare my hetonite stuff

1 more hr after work end

https://tenor.com/view/cat-worm-cat-worm-catworm-ai-generated-gif-11758626355945811640

[dreamy jungle]

Wtf

[ancient pier]

How many heavy xira and heto do we need to stock to produce 20k jade gourd?

[fathom grotto]

bruh xiranite gourd is just 3 xiranite units

[dreamy jungle]

20k each i think

[ruby sorrel]

stock yazhen solution too to be funny

[brittle sedge]

im using this setup for simplicity, the empty space is for future-proof

[craggy oyster]

im done guys

good luck haha

[ruby sorrel]

guess i'm out

[cedar bolt]

Done

[marble yarrow]

no way

[cedar bolt]

What wrong?

[brittle sedge]

seems like enough space for 3 more xiranite lines

[craggy oyster]

i mean just dumb all of them in the outpost

[subtle finch]

the 4 cuprium beds and effluent from the purificaiton node:

https://tenor.com/view/allow-us-to-introduce-ourselves-veggietales-veggie-larry-the-cucumber-bob-the-tomato-gif-21074601

[marble yarrow]

yeah my heavy xiranite gonna have that

[subtle finch]

also, am i not seeing the planters for the dense ori?

[marble yarrow]

they're just scattered around there

i even have 5 surplus sandleaf

[brittle sedge]

mine is nowhere as compact but it looks nice, and tile-able

[subtle finch]

ah, found it

[spice needle]

What can be done to help Ferrium shortages? I keep getting shortages even with Regional Transfer pumping Ferrium, leading to me not getting Xircon, leading to no batts.

[craggy oyster]

mine is well ... hahahaha

[subtle finch]

[brittle sedge]

missing 1 though /j

[dreamy jungle]

Nice more 7 forge

[sterile stratus]

looks like forge noodle ngl

[tribal crescent]

guys i just reached wuling how do I solve this part

[hoary crag]

I actually thought this was sub-pac for a second

😭

[hoary crag]

ngl this is the first 7 forge setup I've seen that actually looks good

[sterile stratus]

where are we

[tribal crescent]

it's the part where game tells me to pump water from that pool

[sterile stratus]

place down a pump

[tribal crescent]

to dump in back in the dam

but it says different liquid

i can't mix

what do i do

[brittle sedge]

drink it all

[dreamy jungle]

You can have it as well https://enkad.enka.network/?id=W5D5M0n2T2F7X2

[tribal crescent]

such greed

[craggy oyster]

anyone have phase 2 formulars?

[brittle sedge]

you can see it on enka

[tribal crescent]

it's over

i run out of pools to fill

this is it

😭

[brittle sedge]

then fill your stash

[sterile stratus]

bruh

[brittle sedge]

(80000 + 68000) * 6 bottles

multiply by fluid type if you want

[dreamy jungle]

Hikarin

[subtle finch]

[hoary crag]

I wonder if I can compress my 3x xiranite lines even further

and try to fit stashes on it

while maintaining aesthetics ofc

[craggy oyster]

let me see ur setup

[sterile stratus]

aesthetics?

[hoary crag]

I'll be doing it by myself but here goes nothing ig

[craggy oyster]

oh defi

[hoary crag]

40x29

[craggy oyster]

my old setup was 2 x3 xiranite opposite

[hoary crag]

40 will be maintained since I'm putting 2 of them next to each other for a perfect 80 (core width)

[valid gazelle]

interesting placement..

[craggy oyster]

hmmmm. i mean i did try mega base with x3 on 2 side and 8 FotS in the middle

[subtle finch]

you have everything but the forge, i have nothing except forge

[sterile stratus]

whas

[craggy oyster]

what about this

[hoary crag]

1 stash per forge is the perfect cherry on top

[sterile stratus]

24-forge layout wow

[hoary crag]

*32

[sterile stratus]

oh yea forgot a row

mb

[valid gazelle]

32 forges

wow

hikarin is fixing wuling's xyranite problem for a whole century

[rare moon]

Are we getting 16 forges in 1.3 or even 20

[valid gazelle]

we dunno yet

WAIT WHAT

we're getting even more forges

[craggy oyster]

btw do u guys have a bug when u link 3 pumps tgt and then split to 2 conduits but it coundt supply for 3 forges each

somehow 3 forges eat 4 water

[valid gazelle]

oh it just weird splitter behavior

let them pile up and it fixes itself i think

[craggy oyster]

ye i figured

[valid gazelle]

oh wait i read your question wrong my bad

[ruby sorrel]

but you can't link 3 pumps together?

[rare moon]

Then they just straight up add infinite forges

[craggy oyster]

but wonder why it happened in the 1st place

[ruby sorrel]

in any meaningful way anyways

[valid gazelle]

ye cuz the pipe flow limit

[brittle sedge]

flow limit?

like it can only transfer 2 pumps at a time

[valid gazelle]

question tho... does the manifest have higher flow limit

or just the usual 2/s

[sterile stratus]

what's the pipe length limit

[ruby sorrel]

80?

[sterile stratus]

oh the usual number then

[rare moon]

Its infinite if you try hard enough

[sterile stratus]

no pipe thing

like splitter, control, converger etc

[craggy oyster]

Yesss that'ssss right

[brittle sedge]

the double one? 4/s i heard

[craggy oyster]

i totally forgot about that

[solid quiver]

128 for wuling

64 for other small areas

[sterile stratus]

oh ok

[valid gazelle]

wait.. on the idea of .. having more than 12 fots

i think my base can accomodate... 16

[rare moon]

Get facility limited

[valid gazelle]

i have an idea of making it slightly more compact

[valid gazelle]

dies

💀

[craggy oyster]

hmm

does enka have falicity counts?

[sterile stratus]

finally got everything in v4, now it's wuling 🥀

[sterile stratus]

hm

[rare moon]

I need to kill my ancestral water

Or maybe i could just pipe all the way instead

[craggy oyster]

any top view?

[fervent lodge]

Crtl+S plan to see the stats here, or shift+select the base to see a detailed breakdown

[valid gazelle]

gimme like

5 minutes

[craggy oyster]

tks

[tired burrow]

What about for mobile

[fervent lodge]

send me $30000

[tired burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/perlica-arknights-endfield-but-i-don't-have-30k-30k-gif-14405705860798192992

[fervent lodge]

i will get around to mobile controls at some point

if you look at a shared plan it'll still show the facility numbers tho

[tired burrow]

Maybe but what if I made it myself without a shared plan

[fervent lodge]

on mobile?

[tired burrow]

Yeah

[fervent lodge]

how the fuck
building placement is disabled on mobile

[tired burrow]

I’m confused

[fervent lodge]

me too

[valid gazelle]

my proudest creation..

[fervent lodge]

are you talking about the planner or the game itself

[tired burrow]

I’ve built my factory on mobile. How is it disabled?

Oh no the planner lol

[fervent lodge]

"oh no, the planner" or "oh not the planner"

😭

[tired burrow]

I’m talking about the planner

[rare moon]

1/10 for the corners

[fervent lodge]

can you send a screenshot

i'm so confused how you managed to build it there because i deliberately killed everything except pan/zoom, including belt placement panels and building placement panels

because it'd be torture to use it without an actually thought-out UI for mobile placement

[tired burrow]

Is this on Enfield tools or another

[fervent lodge]

endfield tools one doesn't work tho, we're talking about enka

[tired burrow]

Oh wait you can plan on Enka?

[fervent lodge]

[tired burrow]

I’ve been using Endfield tools

[fervent lodge]

poor soul

[tired burrow]

I know

[fervent lodge]

well if you're on mobile you didn't lose anything

because enkad doesn't work on mobile

yet

[tired burrow]

Oh no I did

Twice

When I accidentally refresh on Endfield tools

[fervent lodge]

💀

so it doesn't have autosave either?

[tired burrow]

When you move away into another tool or refresh sometimes it doesn’t save

[fervent lodge]

okay let's see if i can do mobile controls by the evening then

shall end your suffering

[tired burrow]

Please do

[sterile stratus]

bruh... still a long way to go

although i refuse sacrificing my sc

[tired burrow]

Another question can I import in game blueprints to enkas

[crude spear]

Will week 1 become unavailable when week 2 starts? I don't wanna spend it all then find out there's better stuff in week 2 I can't afford.

[brittle sedge]

i dont think it will

[jovial breach]

Probably not

Just clear 1st shop and start hoarding heavy

[sterile stratus]

do you guys turn off your sc line for the event item

[jovial breach]

No

[sterile stratus]

mhm

[valid gazelle]

no

[sterile stratus]

still 13.25?

[brittle sedge]

just the heavy xiranite line, i have enough in stock

[valid gazelle]

12

[crude spear]

12 SC, 6 gourds for me.

[sterile stratus]

yh that sounds fair

[brittle sedge]

if 12SC no heavy xiranite you can go for 8 gourds

[sterile stratus]

then what should i do with metatransfer

[fervent lodge]

yes (but not on mobile)

[ancient charm]

More xira comp

Or cup comp

68k is the stockpile limit?

Right?

[crude spear]

Varies with uhhh. Regional development level I think?

[ancient charm]

At max currently already