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wait isnt the water can use the purification unit?
You might have hit the limitation for the Forges
4 forges for 2 batteries
3 forges in total for 1 heavy xiranite into component / savings (50/50)
1 forge currently making sc battery (the cheaper one). Probably divert the 1 forge to cuprium / xirsnite components later.
when switched it's 3/m
might*
Yess can from battery plant.
Leave with free 30/m xiranite for anything you want.
Huh, strange. I definitely haven't. It's just an issue of positioning. I can place it in other spots.
Oh what
time to speedrun EU/NA
wait so that means essentially i only need to make carbon for 7 xirenite machine?
Wait ive never seen a placement restriction within aic area
usually the invisible pipe leftover there, just bulk action and delete that place again
HAVE I BEEN KILLING MYSELF ON SOMETHING I DONT NEED TO DO??????
Huh, I'll check
I hope this doesn't mean we only have 2 outposts
can the new reactor not make 2times the xiranite?
i thought it could run 2 formulas....
I mean it’s just one more xirsnite line. May as well stock up
Nah he forgot to remove a rock. Get a builder to it.
Yess.. 7 xiranite production.

can the new reactor not run 2 xiranite formulas.
still clearing the first outpost stock daily while prio making new comp right
why cant i compress my xiranite construction.....
so i remove 2 grinder right?
Yess..
i cant visually tell just from looking
If get we water treatment area, one expanded crucible can create core and heavy xironite?
you still can't run the same formula at once even if you double input them
WHY
thats illegal
because i said so
this shit still feels illegal
Yes
@upper fiber didn't work
It's not a facility overlap either
It just says restricted
did you try zoom in and check them, should be leftover
waiting until my cuprium part maxed before going into hetonite
did you litter
no one lv2 right
yes
What the hell is this
OMG THAT'S WHAT CAUSED IT??
LOL don't forget to pick item from the ground
Your trash.. 
game teaching you littering is bad
so you didn't bulk action and drag the area...
I DID
and delete
After that, he throw trash from backpack..
Can 1 pump feed 2 or 3 forge of the sky.. 
1 pump = 2 factory facility, so only 2
finally, te- hetonite production
thats actually crazy I didn't know this can process two recipe at once
2 max..
Merge 2 pump to 1 pipe, that pipe can supply up to 4..
what the fuck is this aaaaaaaaaa
but the hetonite parts production will have some goes into sell
yes, you can feedback the upgraded crucible from purification unit
I should be fine once I turn off my gear production right? 
anyone lvled up to outpost lv2 yet? what can we sell
not going for component yet, want to max heavy xiranite and hetonite part 1st
since heavy xir is for puzzle and hetonite part is for new towers
how about 3 at once
making ss
btw is it just me or are menus really slow since update
tried this, my ferrium powder ended up clogged or if splittered, cannot feed fast enough
esp the map takes forever now
i feel many things kinda buggy. including my zhuang hair
Zhuang hair kinda like stone
yo im gonna have to see this blueprint
on pc, not happening on my side, no idea with device
it's because it can only produce xircon at half efficiency.
you'd still need two of them for a full xircon line
and it's by then you have your ferrium powder feed into both reactors
My phone has no problem
what are the benefit of using expended crucible other than saving space?
yeah, tried it, not efficient enough
top view
@subtle finch here: https://enkad.enka.network/?id=X2e2k7n8q8s5g1
my compact brain can't make it pretty 
ended up using 2 upgraded crucible + 1 low crucible for xircon line.
and 2 xircon line feed 2 purfication with their output merged.
noo not the stashes
people are lvl 2
heavy xiranite with 2 xircon line
I just split the whole thing cus I didn't like having the whole mega row of grinders
sub pac is 50x50 right?
thanks alot
, ill add it to my bp thread
?
crucible have the speed of 1 formula, but can do multiple formula at once, as long as it not the same formula recipe.
is that correct?
ngl I love how the stuff basically encourages us to actually max out pipe capacity
waaah
yeah more or less
ok thx
hope next patch can get better purification unit....
?
tho pretty much expect half efficiency based on the combinations of formulas you're doing
but what if it costs 200 power
wtf why
well, rather 1 sc + v4 hc, it will be 2 sc battery usage : /
have anyone tried 1 extended crucible for 6/min wuling SC battery?
The wonders of Expanded Crucibles amirite?
oh wait you're running 2 half xircons, isn't that annoying
you can't
example: 2-reactor xircon setup.
each expanded reactor would only produce xircon at half efficiency because it'd have to wait for the reactor to internally produce 2 xircon effluents.
Active Formulas:
- Liquid Xiranite (full efficiency)
- Xircon Effluents (full efficiency)
- Xircon (half efficiency)
not really, it's running smoothly as intended
it's perfect 
I just run xircon in one of them and eff in both
1 manifold conduit can feed 7 forge?
I see...
if forge only then it can feed 8
but if full lines, then it can only feed 4
ahhh i see
this is assuming your pipes are at full capacity btw (each pipe/conduit port handling 2 pumps each)
you're welcome
, probably can remove some bridges but would make belt uglier
use 2 pipe conduit, youll lose water too fast
still love my silang setup
idk I didn't want to feed sewage and ferrium into all 4
holy shit...
there are geniuenly levels to this
holy fuck
oh no i see vort typing
hmmm idk where to report this on Enka but someone once said see something say something
nothing much
i thought you gonna say i could remove facs
whats the size of the sub pac?
i thought i was autistic good on making factories.. then i see yall builds.. its like comparing a child drawing with an artist..
pain...
?
Bro is traumatize at this point
what is the maximum outflor rate of the manifold?
whats the size of the sub pac?
and how small do xiranite bp's get?
im gonna try to cram all into 1 sub pac if i can
main story
he probably meant the size of a xiranite blueprint
Anyone?
i felt like i was very clear
now I just need to add text
ow i miss read
got everything
can i receive actual answers
this is 20x27
if thats the question then i wont give, not because i dont want to
but because my built sucks
mb there my man
24X17.5
you can do a L version (which i am going to attempt soon), but for reference, here it is on a subpac
There's 7 forge setup for subpac in #1461542035617091681
Sub pac is 50x50
someone seems already did it. but seems like making heavy xiranite in there is a bad idea
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1494923383408820404
can you clear wuling first outpost with ONLY batteries daily
for 1?
Actually that's pretty good, because i intend mine to fit like some sort of puzzle piece like this in the AIC
what's the size of this?
yes, for 1. My friend did a L version which is significantly more compact than mine
*total
Okay so, for sc wuling batteries, ill need xircon. For that, ferrium. Where is ferrium 😭
46x20
top of main outpost
thats pretty fat for 1
Oh thanks mate
the one i sent has two forge xd
yep, since your's is a square
No purity increase ?
both have pros and cons anyway

I think silang setup is simply if it works it works
why tf can the pipe only go into one side
not being able to directly mirror feels illegal
if it works, it works. that's my creed, pretty sure that's everyone's creed
yup
get ratio'd

test area: +60 cuprium💀
the forge is being connected by another forge.....
anyone got the extend crucible set up so the sewage dont block my production?
for heavy xiranite prod, yes.
Barely enough 💀
we use forges for heavy xiranite?
yes. 10 Xiranite + 5 Effluent last i checked
just do something like this
mine is this
anyone got the set up for extend crucible for sewage not to clog the factory
and also can the normal conduit support 4 extend crucible?
so how many of my forges are being designated to heavy xiranite.
i have
but i didnt separate my dense orig from the crucibles
is that okay?
why even use conduit when the pumps are right there
so i use 2 forges connected to a 3rd for heavy and the other 5 run regular
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its in chinese.. i cant really read which is which (my eyes is fucked)
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i cant see whihc one is output on the crucible
your sewage dont overflow and clog the build?
give it, idc
no why would it do that
I thought the icons is good enough 🤔
cause xircon produce sewage to
just don't overfeed sewage
But okay
im blind + stupid as fuckl
in any case I'm not running half xircons so it doesn't matter
how many refining unit do you feed to your extend then?
half xircon???
you can do that?
that's the only reason you'd brick from too much sewage
Do reactors prioritize consuming a liquid for a recipe or outputting that liquid?
cus you're putting sewage into xircon
can you show inside the extend?
some times yes sometimes its parallel
I just run 2 full xircons instead of 4 half xircons so the problem doesn't even exist
no mid-quest rn
What determines which option it selects?
Cook!
@wispy grove so your input the the crucible expend is
1 line of xirenite
1 line of ferrium powder
1 pipe of water
and whats the last pipe?
half sewage as it byprods sewage on xicron step
srsly running it at half is what causes the problem
the recipe starts working if the crucible has all the ingredients it needs. you just need to make sure that the 2nd recipe(xircon eff) and the xircon eff from outside pipe are present at the same time the xircon(solid) is finished its production within the same crucible. or else it will get delayed
you're using 2 anyways so just do this
don't put sewage into the xircon crucible
problem solved
If it runs it runs and i finally have use for 6th input belt slot on battery maker. Back to making as compact as my dumb brain can as if i want to hide skeletons in remaining space
Why not?
Does anyone have a good 2 xircon/1 Yazhen A combined blueprint? 
cus this doesn't even work properly if you don't run it at a nice fraction or full
Can you explain?
It's the last thing I need to optimize
cus 100% xircon gives you 1 recipe's worth of sewage
heres my uhh crucibles. crucible 1 and 2(bottom part) gets only xira,water, andsewage. the crucible 3 and 4( upper part) gets xira, ferriun, water, annd xircon eff from the crucible 1 and 2
don't make things complicated by running both triple recipe and having to split your sewage/ferrium inputs
dont worry its not. the crucible can handle triple recipe
I said don't do it in both, do it in one
I just have 1 ferrium do sewage and split it between 2 triple recipe crucibles, i don't see where it can go south
cus ppl are clearly not splitting it properly somehow and bricking their crucibles
so just don't do it
splitting will f up the ratio
so essentially @wispy grove 2 of your crucible is used to produce the extra eff needed for the other 2 crucible to make a stable xircon
resulting in sewage water only for the FIRST 2 (meaning only need 2 refining sewage) and for the sewage later on THE OTHER 2 (that is making xircon) uses the sewage produce themself to make xircon?
or am i too stupid?
Interesting. I was thinking of running triple recipe in every reactor, then using passthrough for sewage. If the reactor prioritizes consuming sewage over outputting it, the system would inherently consume all needed sewage and output all excess
Guess humanity won't survive 4:1 ratio just yet
yess
essentially also
the start for the xircon needed the first 2 crucible to make 1 xircon first so they can make xircon eff
oh w8
sewage later on THE OTHER 2 (that is making xircon) uses the sewage produce themself to make xircon? to make xicon eff yes
btw can you explain why many people seems to have problem with sawage? is it bug?
ok miko, dont disappear, i will make my build
if it fails i will ask you
if it works i will THANK YOU
probs just ppl dumping too much sewage in and blocking xircon prod

sadly one crcuible can only make 1 xircon eff recipe. you need help from other crucible to make it stable, having 2 xircon eff for your solid xircon
I bruteforce piping on day 1 and managed to get some unholy clog
i see...
this what happens to me, i tried to put it out but it just poof to 0
All my blueprint have run test at least 24 hours which makes me not the first few who sent it
Sometimes I wonder should I change that
during early days of 1.1, there was a bug with crucible, that caused random sewage clog or extra amount.
but it was fixed after 1-2 weeks into 1.1
@wispy grove so you use 2 refining (for sewage) right? what do you do with the other 4?
@sick whale if using all 8 slots of the Crucible a bit confusing you can play safe like I do
one problem is they are using only once expanded crucible for making solid xircon. if you loop inert using purifier, to the same crucible, you will only get 1xircon eff for every 8 secs. its not sustainable. you need all 4 crucibles to make 1 xircon eff every 2 secs.
suck it game, was able to get all the new stuff without building the better battery still 😄
How does it become unstable?
I imagined it would simply produce 15/min xircon
random ping lmao
im doing it now
use 4 crucible
2 full recipe
2 making eff
Sry sry i pong wrong
while your waiting for purifier to make xircon eff. your purifier makes xircon eff 4 times slower than the crucible itself

i understand the logic of the process
i dont understand the math logic on why it is clogged, overflow, or under
Anyone got the lv2 of new outpost
whats the difference between the the T3 and T4 conduit inlet/outlets?
It is when a material is being used slower than the other
done this way too.
2 large and 1 small crucible for xircon line.
the inert xircon purfied for heavy xiranite
i some way i say extended crucible might not be a good things. in programming/coding, there is this thing called separation of responsibility.
extended crucible in some way, make your design too tightly coupled, where it could make things harder to debug, when you have some problem.
Yep
I don't plan to feed purifier effluent back into the triple reactor. The triple reactor will only use its own effluent
1 pipe vs 2 pipes, you honestly don't need the upgraded one since it does the same thing as 2 lower ones

it says that the flowrate is the same at 2units/s so is it technically slower? i assume it can hold 4 fluid pumps instead of 2, but the flow rate looks the same so wont it bottle neck itself anyway?
understandable
yea using logic math there is just fucking myself (like how life is doing me rn)
i understand the basic logic of ANY process
but put math in it? womp womp my brain fried
the flow rate per in and out are the same, there are just now 2 in's and 2 out's, it's only real use is it's slightly smaller than 2 outlets if you are building it inside your aic area instead of outside it
have you tried our lord and savior excel?
dw i was testing something
NUH UH,
not yet at least or any time soon (cause i got rusty because i havent rebuild shit for a while)
Its just understanding the inputs and outputs of formulas. As long as you satisfy them then they will satisfy you
all good dw
fr
the twin in/outlet is the same with using 2 in/outlet.
use same space ( 3*6 ), but if you need to squeeze building limit number, it's quite helping.
very useful for hydro mining which used 2 pair of in/outlet to save protocol amount
1 crucible can only make 1 xircon eff every 2 secs. U need 2 for 1 xircon. So your production is cut in half if you want a self sustaining crucible. If the crucible can make 2 xircon eff inside the crucible. Its possible, but it cant.
i tried it before
oh so i can treat it as 2 individual T3 inlet/outlets - does it matter which input/output i use? like if i only attach 2 fluids pumps to one and 1 fluid pump to the other, does it evenly split it when it comes out of the outlet or does it act as two separate ones? one has 2 lfuids pumps, the other has 1?
I'm confused, are you saying it'll run at 15/min xircon or it won't run at all?
Itll clog itself and die
Because the difference in ratio
Clog with what?
dont think the twin in/outlet works for different liquid....
Am i doing something wrong
what in the actual f-
Life is a highway
I wanna drive all night long ~
so many bridges....
With innert SIRcon
That would simply be output no?
Oh then you're good. Just that it runs at half the output
whats your input
i wanna know that first
This is kind of what I was thinking. Pretend the right has unlimited treatment plants
uhh, why are you spacing them like that ? you aready unlock depot bus and depot loader/unloader, right ?
Ye that looks like 15/min
as long as it works ig
I have no clue what I did and I don't want to touch it 😭
It's far from the busses
You do know you can move the buses around right ?
And all PACs get 2 depot ports
its v4 map, i think
Oh ?
Valley
Damn then.. gg move them closer lol
That's the thing, I'm not sure if that kind of setup works
I don't have enough infrastructure to test it ingame rn
My base is half torn down sadly
well I wouldn't do that cus it just complicates things, just stick with sewage into separate effluent crucible and don't put sewage into xircon crucible
^^^
Pretty sure even expanded forge can't double up reaction rates of single reactions
hmm.
well you can try to get used 1st by making simple things 1st which can be sold to sub region.
like refined originium, amethys part, amethyst bottle, ferrium part, buck c.
for plantation, you dont need to feed the loop from depot bus or aic output, 1 seeder - 2 planter, 1 planter loop back to seeder, 1 planter go to aic input or protocol stash.
insert plant to the seeder ( 50 pcs ) and the plant seed loop finished
If it works, it would greatly simplify the priority logic
That's why it's so interesting
🤔
what priority logic
I think he wants it to run 1 recipe 2x speed
oh nvm
ugh just over 4h to outpost lv2 but I can't play until 8h after that
It can run more recipes.. but they have to be different
Smh why.. THERE ARE VACANT TUBES

That's not how chemistry work
when do we get heto part sellable in new outpost?
umm i think i made a mistake which is making me die in infinite loop what to do?
Ffs no. All I want to know is if the reactor will prioritize consuming a fluid over outputting it
after a few deaths it should put you somewhere else
Sry English isn't my main language 
like im continuously falling in water
Uhh guys
otherwise try closing the game like alt+f4 or something
if my count is right its my 40th death now
That's weird.. cuz it should have put you back to the tp point
ok, it didnt take me 40 
wait skport map tools live location sync
I FINALLY FIT 8 XIRANITE/FORGES OF THE SKY IN THE JINGYU VALLEY OUTPOST JKGHHSSG
My second outpost has 98k bills
But I've run out of materials to sell, which fast produced product can I use to get all those 98k bills ?
Absolute madlad
end the game via task manager.
logout and starting screen and login again ?
My depot capacity is 11000
Wha'ts the current cuprium ore max yield?
im a mobile player
180
any ideas on laying this out so i can squeeze this into this area
have you tested this? cause what i can see here, is you need 8 secs to make xircon solid. this is gonna be the timestamp( assuming sewage gets consumed rather than just passing through):
2 sec: 1 xira fluid, 1 ferrium dust
4 sec: 1 xira fluid, 2 ferrium dust, 1 xircon eff, 1 inert
6 sec: 1 xira fluid, 3 ferrium dust, 2 xircon eff, 1 inert(cause the prev inert got treated)
8 sec: 1 xira fluid, 3 ferrium dust, 1 solid xircon, 1 sewage, 1xircon eff, 1 inert
10 sec: 1 xira fluid, 4 ferrium dust, 1 sewage, 2 xircon eff, 1 inert
12 sec: 1 xira fluid, 4 ferrium dust, 1 xircon solid, 2 sewage, 1 xircon eff, 1 inert.
you see where its going? every 4 secs you get 1 unprocessed sewage. It can be treated yes. but, thats is if you can keep the sewage inside the reactor, long enough to be processed. remember that the outpipe is drains 4x faster than the actual xircon eff process itself
GG
what are u even creating?
force close the game, restart device then try again still trapped you in death loop ?
Can I take reference at this ?
xiranite
You are an absolute madlad
im never touching this outpost ever again
youre not planning to make heavy xira?
Wait is this ALL xyranite ?
for the whole community
Or 1 Heavy ?
though i hit the facility limit, i might have a problem doing the tower defense when i hit lvl4
sheesh i escaped thanks for the idea bro
Eh just save blue print and smash it > do defense and Load Last Save
but uh don't you need one of the forges to make heavy
Yes but like.. he fits all 8 xyranite lines into that small outpost..
It's amazing on its own.. i could only do 6

can do 8, but the plantation is not included...
i will ill just remove a forge and put it elsewwhere
I'm here trying to squish my setup to be 1 tile narrower
The issue is that I cannot test this ingame rn, so I am asking if it will work or not
yeah xiranite only and nothing else
I'm working on cuprium rn so in a hour or so I should be able to test, but not rn
but you do need to build sandleaf in a different place lol

it wont work, not because of clogging, but because your sewage just passes through
cause then i can fit 6 instead of 5.75 forges in a row
Enka is super confusing btw, I have no idea why sometimes stuff shows up in the gain/usage but sometimes it doesn't
It can only consume 1 sewage per cycle, so as long as it tries to consume sewage first it should be fine no?
It's not like it needs 2 sewage before it can consume
yes, cause 1 passes through, the other 1 stays
does this mean i need 8 coprium ore output to make this shit run smoothly?
Yes
So, are you suppose to hook 4 pumps up to the Conduit Manifolds?
damn
damn...
Just give us 240
surely we're gonna get more in next half patch 
surely we can get all high purity
just think that every slot inside the crucible are pouches, as long as u can get sewage before it passes through, it will be processed. if the crucible doesnt found any, it will get delayed.

but i need to use 120 of them to make the syringe 💀
You can turn that off to make syringe
wait if this is the case, i dont need to make 7 xirenite carbon then?
i can use 6 forge (for xirenite) + 1 (heavy xirenite) + 1 (purification unit)?
And turn it on when you need gears
nope, just 6
Anyone have a screenshot of max ore/resources for 1.2? I'm at 180Cuprium rn, am i missing any?
Nope
That does not answer the key question of what happens when 1 sewage enters the crucible. Will it be used for crafting, or output.
THIS IS THE FUCKING FORTH TIME
We are all stuck at 180
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
your 7th are free xiranite
Have a break. Have a kitkat

HOW AM I CHINESE
fuck, not enough for a full line of components
WHY AM I SO FUCKING BAD AT MATH
I need to cross this place to connect the pipes any idea?
output
Go around
damn, this factory update is so ass, not because the factory is ass but the resources is soooooo fucking asssss LMAOOO
What's the tick rate of pipes? Belts are once every 2s, are pipes the same?
Is there any liquid delay blueprint or plan? The sewage water I got is too fast

only way?
2/s
Yep
its fast asf
The tick rate is 0.5s?
There are boxes for you to jump over on the other side tho
Why would pipes run at 0.5s when belts are 2s?
i thought it was 1/s? one pipe can use for 2 machines when split
thats the water
So you can use multiple lines on a single pipe..
from the uhh
acid?
What did you test this with btw?
the pipe that siphons the water
piss?
I don't know how you'd even detect a 0.5s tick
oh the new water machine?
fluid pump?
YEAHH
clicking on a pipe shows flow rate
the sky forge is for heavy xirenite right?
yeah
OK I MADE IT CORRECTLY
its written in the pipe
FUCKKKKKKK
w8 lemme show yah
That red pipe is carrying 2/s
WATCH ME COME BACK TO ASK WHY DOES IT NOT WORK ANYMORE
From 4 crucibles
I take it you can't replace both Crucibles with the expanded one and still have Cuprium solution come out at the same speed as having 2 normal ones? ..
beat me to it
oh
Both of my purifiers are running at max efficiency
@wispy grove @valid gazelle should i rebuild? this is in my main PAC
4 units per 2 secs
If it works.. leave it be

My motto
IT LOOKS SO FUCKING BADDDDDD
IT TAKES SOOO MUCH SPACEEE
BUT I DONT WANT TO TOUCH PIPES
Oh you forgot to set output @sick whale
BUT IF I DONT IT LOOKS GARBAGE
Flying Zipline Tower
ow i know, its not finish
that looks like my irl room tbh
Just blueprint and save your sanity
heavy xiranite is 2 normals+ a forge n pipe right?
the basic is done
I asked about tick rate, not flow rate.
You can try this
wtf? pink water?
theres no water output
That's sewage on the phone
yea not yet, im planing to dump it
im still thinking to rebuild or not
to make it closer
btw do yall have 12 Fornite Sky? i heard some people say we have 12 but i only have 8
or nah
?
i dont understand what u mean
lets just say, the fluid goes 4 meters/ sec
Later on. Now it's 8
Wait for expansion
1.2.1
1.2.1.1
how did yall transport acid from that pool to the aic?
Conduit
The tick rate should be a number of hertz
oh wow, they release that shit late so people can rebuild their factory again! how considerate, thanks you Hypergryph!
Wdym rebuilding is fun
anyone have a solution to sewage slightly clogging for copium production when reusing xircon sewage?
dont dump it, just loop it back to the right crucible
which way u guys used?
Belts have a tick rate of 0.5 hz
dunno if i need to just use splitters and deal with it
Normal. Inlet at the pump, outlet at the aic
i piped, 2 pipes from new outpost to main aic
wait thats more than 200m
Eh ? How big are you doing it
im not sure
from the pool to the sub pac in marker stone
actually nvm forgot about sewage output at the end
reusing last sewage from last crucible xircon is always a bad idea. Except now you have expanded crucible....
shit im getting building pipe from wuling to marker stone lol
yeah im dumb
I agree...
Sometimes it does funky magic when the production has a hiccaup
on 1.1 , either you reuse the last sewage byproduct or not, you will end up with total 6water treatment iN your facility. (max 60/m xircon case)
expanded crucible should have no issue using its own sewage as long as you're pumping xircon effluent into it from another crucible
thats what I'm sayin
but that other crucible needs another source
Question guys. Can a splitter make the pipe flow slower?
wait you're right my third crucible can actually just have 3 processes thank you @bright zodiac but yeah need to just place all the buildings then figure it out from there
I dont exactly want to just output 45 sewage
@valid gazelle @wispy grove i did it??? I DID IT????
cause of how the game works on calcs
What the..
just wish the pipe control worked better as actual circuits or something lol
oh hi there
to solve blockage
actually no
Top right have output pipe hanging.
Wait what's this ?
landmine do you need a break..
I could probably heavily compact mine but I plan on moving it to cardiac so I'm not worrying too hard about it
I can recommend therapy
if you wanna use it to limit your rate, no.
if you place them in series, distribution can misbehave, its not recommended to chain 3 in a row
Where do I place the 4 extra Forges??
what's that inert xircon pipe doing?
main AIC??
up to you really
it's best
for me I have 7 on core, and one on marker
id just put 3 in the new base and put 1 forge in the main aic
also finally done updating my core AIC
I also put the wall back on as well
it looks the same lol
So in other words, 3 splitters can mess up the distribution? So it is possible it can lower the flow rate of the pipes the further the water travels through many splitters.
yours is safer tbh cause i looped my water output from purifier. one delay can get sewage build up on the reactor that got looped on.
yea i saw that, i didnt take the chance
bro stocked so many cuprium
I hate how 4 inputs needed for purification means the clean output is excess cause you can already split each pump into 2 per pump
Bro i dont think we speak VN here
not in a meaningful rate, unless you dump some using the supply unit or treatment unit
What is maximum mineable cuprium ore for 1.2? Are there any hidden on side quest?
sr
but i dont wanna use another conduit thats why
Mmhh..Ive never seen water flow rate lowers down so i dont know what makes it slow yet. Im very new to this wuling mechanics.
It's not the prettiest but it works.. Red is 2 SC battery lines, green are Xircon, yellow is Yazhen A, all my plants/seeds in the bottom..

sr4 my mistake
Does anyone know the max packet size of pipes?
what kind of rate are you trying to achieve?
Combine of xircon 60/min and heavy xiranite 6/min
the pipe only has 1/s of waterfrom the fluid pump, so it means you can only sustain 2 facilities for each conduit pipe. more than that youll ran out of water
hmm ur still using 5 reactor for xircon?
and plants being in main area, 7 xiranite lines in sub 1.. 
180 and that is with lvl 12 region lvl
Im just worried that using pipe splitters might end up like ground splitter. Usually ground splitters or normal splitter creates gap between the items so im not sure yet if this does the same effect on the liquid pipes..
Ok thank you
It's...alittle hard to understand. Im still at the tutorial stage . For now ill get to kmow the facilities first. Ill come back reading yall msgs later xc
It's 180 at region 10. 11 and 12 only give stock bill increases
@wispy grove this is a autisctic question
but now what do i do? im too lost to actually think and i dont want to take a rest (it will further fuck my income production)
i made 8 grind for battery
i made 5 xirenite
i made 2 xircon
i made 6 cuprium refine
now what? i have 1 more forge... and i cant make heavy xirenite cause i already made 1
now what???/
is anyone just bottling the xircon effluent at the end lol im thinking about just doing that
so i COUNT IT WRONG AGAIN
i should have made 7 xirenite with forge and 1 forge for heavy
meaning i will have 30/min xirenite extra i can use for anything i need
30/min xiranite can be used on comps
yeah. idk what to do with it so currently doing batteries.
4 cuprium can be used on hetonite, 2 can be put on fitting unit to make parts for your comps
ok so from 8 forge
7 is to make NORMAL xirenite
1 to make heavy
Assuming you have a pipe flowing at max rate of 2/s, this is how it will split based on how you do your splitters; the left side can cause the back two to throttle from lack of water, while the right side splits it more evenly
was 6/min battery production able to support 4 thermal banks?
so now i want to make batteries and stuff to sell
any req?
that's a lot of banks. only use 2 myself.
I personally find this to not be an issue most of the time because it has identical steady-state behavior once you fill up the tanks of the lopsided ones, right?
Guys, asking for a friend does anyone know or where I can find a good blueprint for EU / NA at current 1.2 AIC factory
Do you guys know where i cn find the reactor crucible? Its not in the facility list...
it should but pipes are dumb
anyone have any idea how to get this forsaken orb?
Filter for Production II
do the quest
and make sure you have the tech unlocked
you have to research it first, and then it'll be under production 2
Oh
4 forges should be going towards Xircon to have 2 battery lines
3 forges should be going towards Heavy Xiranite, with the last forge being used to create the Heavy Xiranite
which quest?
the one that got you into that place
what r the things i should build in the marker stone area so i can make all the final products in my main pac
fan meeting or sth
You only need 2 forges to go to Heavy Xiranite if you use inert effluent from the battery lines and purify it
12/min sc battery for sure
nervous sweating
not run smoothly, but well it produce what i need
the Recources for 1.2 factory is so ass, fuk this game
hetonite just hetonite, from there you can hoard parts for components whenever you like
and heavy xiranite
Eh, my batteries are in a different zone so I'm not too pressed about that.
i need sc batteries for trading what shall i do for it?
@wispy grove so here are more question
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i make hetonite, use it for parts, meaning i use how many refining for it?
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in the past (which is LAST PATCH) i make LC battery, Purple syringe, and also blue syringe
still a good idea? -
so the new parts im making is just more xirenite, a new gear comp, and more curpium use to make parts + bottle?
am i overthinking this or is it just fine?
are you purposely running a 30/min hetonite, coz thats 8 reactors
well you are asking marker stone,
so you can make SC at main pac, well you can even put it in marker stone if you like, because xircon require cuprium production
you can utilize them "together" atsame base if you wish
ah right i see it now LMAOO im putting raw sandleaf-
what is the best ratio for xiranite vs heavy?
Guys on one of the medals it says i have 33/34 of the aic index explored but i have every one unlocked + gotten every datalogger across the map?
I built 30/min hetonite in anticipation because I didn't know how many new mining spots we'll get
and the answer was I did not need 30/min
u cant make 30 heto/min
keep making purple syringe, you can skip blue ones, cardiac dont use blues
if you shut down yazhen a...
final one might be the one in test area that will unlock +4 forges
180 cuprium only 22.5 tho
you still wont have enough cuprium iirc
Is it already out?
u need 240 cuprium for 30 heto
that sucks, well i'll stick to 15/min with yazhen a then
I know but I made the factory as soon as I unlocked the new base
I thought we were gonna get more cuprium spots
also theres another medal that says you need to defeat a skydrummer but i havent seen that enemy?
so now I'm stuck with 30/min heto setup than can only be run at about 3/4 capacity
time gated new area is so bad, we have to rebuild twice this patch
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the hetonite ratio is so horrendous. your brain will hurt more than what u did earlier.
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yes and no, depends really. youll share cuprium between purple syringe and hetonite. if you want just hetonite, dont use syringe. if you want syringe, dont make heto or reduce heto production.
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wdym by new parts? cuprium part? or just other parts of the factory?
but on the plus side, I could just turn as many reactors on and off as I want depending on how much heto/cuprium I need at any given time
you can keep it that way til you run out of cuprium stocks, if you dont care about the excess power cost
space is literally not an issue this update anyway

give it to me
what does expanded crucible do the normal one can't?
(the entire setup, but I removed the refiners on top)
more things at once, SC battery takes only one cruc now
ah the at once, space saving only
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how bad? i just want to make it a little bit i guess, i still want to make syringe like used to (which is 6/min right?)
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from 6 refining, how many use for hetonite and how many to syringe?
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i mean like the factory, from the rebuild what did i do (which is extra xirenite, hetonite, more cuprium, and heavy xirenite right? i didnt miss anything else right?)
was expecting some crazy formula that need 6 spot to do lol
assuming u make 15 heto, u only get 60 cuprium left, it mean only 3 yazhen a
yeah have to cut heto AND yazhen by half
I mean it saves quite a lot of space though, might be worth
just ignore the spaghetti on the right side I swear to god
works first, space saving uh never lol
holy spaghetti
"but it works!"
Guys off-topic but does anyone know how to get these yet?
#help this for general stuff
what to use the leftover xiranite on
i forgot where i saw it, but i saw some post saying the forge of the sky limit is 12 in 1.2, is that true? i only have 8 after main story
heavy xiranite
after zhuang banner ends i heard
Seriously
This factory is messed up
ah, ok
that is like the whole patch lol
nope, either 2/3 or 1/2 patch
xira / cuprium comps?
now you don't have to worry about sewage clogging
we'll get the next 4 when Test Area drops iirc, which is around mid may

Anyone know what kind of factory build should we go?
basically a mid-patch update
heto component is mad expensive ffs
Ferrium ore is more expensive at Wuling either
so, would this work or would this clog..?
has anyone made any calculation about whether it's possible to buy out the entire weekly artifice mats?
i'm having extra for yazhen c lol
it's barely possible if you do all wuling deliveries and do stocks
When Hetero one come, now we need to reconfigure everythings
I have like 7.5 ferrium / min that idk where to spend them on 
lv2 outpost will probably make it much easier
I had 200k SC Wuling battery
precipation acid is infinite?
we will have just enough plus the meta storage yeah
ah.. I guess I'll just buy half of the most expensive artifice mats

maybe i'll wait till hikarin's revision 6767676767676767 times for the bp
I am wondering where i should do new hetonite i fell like i should process all the cuprium ore
in main hub and then process it from it or transfer it into hub and make all products there and leave space in smaller outposts for meds
300k*20 is 6m each week, we really need that outpost lv2
oh right
I almost forgot about that..
just two more hours
pls make it at least 10k/hour
this is enough to power both cuprium mining rigs, right? 
at new sub base, since you need the acid for hetonite production.
once you get the hetonite, up to yoh where to process hetonite partnor the new gear component
1 pump = 3 mines
it this any good for making money?
i wonder if i should make just 3/m for componets and random heavy liquid
ye but u got on bottom of wulig pull,so u could make it there too
and wulig one is bigger
Its fine 1 pump = 3 drills
..... you want to drag inlet outlet that far ? x_X
i mean long pipe but
i'm not used to seeing this kind of graph
its basicly valley cable but longer
nope nope nope x_X too hardcore
i plan to make temporary one in outpost then maybe move it
still is it worth to make for selling or use xirconite for other stuff
since 6/m is half the forges
you need lots of protocol space available, 1 in/outlet cost 1 protocol
@bright zodiac thanks for that comment, decided to just run a 50% crucible at the end
ye not that a lot time to test xd
also 2.5 power
gonna count how many i used
i hate that it takes even 20s to load map or any menus sometimes since 1.2
is this efficient for just heavy xiranite?
damn this new yellow acid thing made me scratch my head for a solid couple of minutes
and then I remembered that we can just dump it back
okay, I managed to cut out the 8th forge.. not super pretty but it works.
whats the amount of cuprium we get at the moment? mine is 180 per min
180 is cap right now
180
do you guys have a battery saver blueprint for 5.6k+?
- really bad

- use 4 on heto, 1 on cuprium comp, 1 on purple syringe.
- max eff factory has:
12/min SC battery
6/min heavy xira
3/min heto part
60/min cuprium
30/min ferrium
30/min xiranite
its up to u what you gonna do with these production. you can put all 60 cuprium on syringe A and 30 ferrium on syringe C. if you want to make all 3 comps. your max production is:
1.5/min xira comp(use dense orig meta transfer)
1.5/min cuprium comp
1.5/min heto comp
1.125/yazhen syringe C
1.5/yazhn Syringe A( or make 30/min cuprium part)
Guys what is the range of the sprinkler? It seems like it can water 2 or 3 plots infront. What else can it do?
it can also water one plant 
2 plots only
Can it water 3 plots infront of it simultaneously?
Oh
at most 2 plots due to require space between plots
Ohhokyoky
why?
you can just make it at quarter of the speed
and still make syringes at full speed
hmmm
i see
so slow hetonite (stacking them up) while still make syringe to sell so LC battery dont get eat up to much
correct? @pulsar willow
you don't really need that much hetonite
hi guys I wanna build a Xiranite Component farm but I don't know how to get more power, could anyone help explain this to me?
how many normal xiranite forges i should have and how many for heavy one?
place thermal banks and feed them raw originium ore until you can supply it with batteries
yo this is goated, thanks
transfer batteries from v4 if you just start wuling
1 for heavy, 7 for regular xiranite
anohter question
how much does syringe use (in terms of refining unit)
my syringes (A) use 120 cuprium, so 4 refineries
the thing is tho I completely skipped the aic factory part of the game and rushed the story instead so I don't really have anything in v4
ok nice, with the purification unit I can just run another crucible at half efficiency and import orig cubes and run SC battery at 50%
And thats 6/min right?
instead of trying to produce extra xirantite
yes
meh might be 25% efficient battery machine but whatever
then you're kinda only have 1 choice, power with ori ore till you setup a battery line..
Ok so i use 2 cuprium refiner (i might make a another refiner cause i have extra cuprium) for it
best thing to import to me
goofy ass base design i swear
okay thank you 🫶
You see mine and you will have a stroke (rn my stockade pac is full OF PLANTERS, my main is 3/4 full, middle part is empty, and the new sub pac is gonna be use to make hetonite shit)
yeah stockade is my plant heaven
im gonna use main pac for everything
i even brought 4 piss pipes all the way from marker stone
that does also mean i need to bring a returning piss pipe in order to dump everything
Fuckkkkk i want to do that but im way too lazy to rebuild some sections (because i ran out if depot bus)
Am i just stupid or can i combine 2 pipes to make them one pipe's output to 2 
I did that
why not make everything near the piss lake
Ok thanks for the confirmation was having trouble with the purification station
Tbf idk if thats a good idea but then again im autistically stupid
understandable, have a nice day
finally I defeated the crucible bois
now to wait 2 months for new factory gameplay
hope you won't reach the 512 build limit
that is what stopped me from doing the same
anyone has reach prosperity 2 on the new area?
i probably will hit it considering i have a few hundred pipes laying about
i dont think so? unless someone slotted zhuang as a liason first 30 minutes of update
I have like 260K XP out of 320K so tomorrow
i think everybody who unlock outpost day one is lol
what? You can use Akekuri to generate more and DaPan to sell for Prosperity, you don't need the Leek girl
or whatever liason can produce extra bills first 30 mins of update
hello that's me
Give few battery
funny enough i totally forgot you could assign people to outposts, so even though i have leak girl i sold a lot before i remembered.
Outpost too poor to trade
imagine not stocking 50k lc and sc battery before update along with 50k each yazhen

I'm at 307k but can't stay up to finish it
Definitely not me but i don't ever wanna trade battery to outpost, ever.
idk if hoarding that much battery is good
you will need to cut down battery production for new gear
heto gear?
ofc you don't lol heto component is expensive af
I haven't unlock gear required heto 
i already stock 40k of each component so i won't be making them for a while
does sub pac lv2 have sc battery?
that's not the issue xDDD
Until we could unlock Test Area northeast of Wuling
Ah yes, the outpost goes bankrupt.
anyone?
Iirc yes
ok thx
Test area dont hav outpost, no? God conduits everywhere
yea as the update notes there only 1 new outpost
I only hope for more Cuprium to complete Hetonite production
rdm lv 10 and 11 don't max out mining spots hurt my soul
Was test area don't have water source? I haven't reached there yet
I wonder if sc batteries are worth making since u only save on originum
maybe for selling? power is same per xiranite which is only real price
but i guess only use for xiranite are componets which i propably should make by diving 5/m belt
and random bottled one
Does anyone have blueprint for Tier 1 wuling? so only xiranite and battery? Can I make the component too for gear?
I just used the new 60/min cupr yield for the heto comps, didn't change anything in old lines
currently have 800
brothers i simply cba, are there bps yet that still make for good selling + the new bits?
I'm done
4.4k power for 12 SC batts, 4.5 heto part, 6 heavy xir, 1.67 LC batt, and some xiranite gears
idk how to use the leftover of 7.5 ferrium
anyone make calc for 2 sc vs 3 lc?
yooo thats p nice
I don't. Regional transfer from v4 even not enough.
thanks
hopefully can reduce it if someone found a good tech
i mean its 3 forges and 45 cubes per minute.
while this 4 forges, 60 ferium and 40 per minute cubes
thought i am not counting diluted one since its 125%
60/min on xircon and 1 unloader on heto that gets clogged cuz only 22.5 usage
I'm months behind but just figured out a 16x29 compact xiranite for my 7th forge
6 line of cuprium only use 22.5 for heto
This and a 1/min Yazhen C.. Idk what else I could do at this point 
yeah i am considering making more lc because how much sc eat up xiranite and ferrium
okay but wheres the bluprint 
How do i make heto gear?
no its same amount actually per power only extra ferium
really nice
1.25 sc 
maybe for selling worth it
heto parts + heavy xiranite
FLuiD
is it possible to shrink the crucible 5 crucible building into less for the wuling battery line given we have the expanded one?
4 credits per battery more cash
i guess u dont have to much of originum here
2 expanded 1 normal on mine
what's it look like
new AIC need to progress story?
2 expanded
2h into story no skip
yes
Allo, can anyone help me with Tier 1 wulling base? I got xiranite but all the power is manually transfered battery
no purifier necessary?
Dense originium + xyranite = sc battery
this is 12 xircon (double)
Hetonite component when the fluid doesn’t pump fast enough
🫠
it is weird because you can recycle 4 inert xircon into 1 effluent for heavy xiranite
nah mine is too ugly to share 
Im still questioning the 5 hetonite per part
ye so 125%
but there no overflow so i am worried if it can clog or something

I'm still metatransferring ferr and went from 2.75 yaz C to 2.5
super slight deficit tho lel
should be good, do dijiang transport every once in a while
yuh
somehow you can metatransfer 1.5k dense originium even tho it takes 2 originiums to produce 1 dense orig
I stopped metatransferring ferriums when I learnt that
where's haruna chan?
i use 4 forge for 12/min sc, recycle inert + 3 forge for 6/min heavy xiranite, what should i do with the remaining forge lol
Heavy xiranite taking away 60/min xiranite I think
obviously an extra bit of xiranite to sell to clear bills. 
yeah because i got 0 spare originum
i saw them lurking
Tried the excess 1 Xiranite into 1/m SC bat, its actually not bad...
i need your math skills
extra 30 bills per minute 
you doin the 25/min dense ori?
Hoe fast are yall making the nee gear
yup
for what
How fast?
where you get more originum for that sc then, is meta storage + dijiang transfer enough lol
actually its 1.66667/min so you can use it for your 2nd bank
1/min sc is 60/min originum hmm
sc bat is 1.25/min
12/min SC Battery
3/min Heavy Xiranite.
1.25/min xira comp(use dense orig meta transfer)
1.75/min cuprium comp
1.5/min heto comp
1.125/yazhen C
1.25/Yazhen A
how much bills am i losing?
depends if you actually sell the heavy xiranite lmaooo
ofc i sell it duhh
thats my total yeild
Unknown for a couple days
how many SC do u burn
Well this is fun. I might actually exceed 6.6k power
lmaoo yeah i would just assume 1 and half banks
bro why
what?
Am I missing any resources here or does that look right?
me not selling my heavy xiranite: 💀
You can metatransfer dense originium powder to make another 1.25/min batteries

finally found a decent spot for the bonsai
youre not selling heavy xira?
Save it for the event
10 reactions
4 reactors
such a shame we cant place those decorables on dijiang
99% sure we won't need to save for event, but we'll do it anyway
i mean, i still have 50k counts of each sellable item, lmaooo
what is the max forge of the sky now?
8 then its going to be 12 next month
my other sc is on v4
huh?? 12 on 1.3?


