aic-factory

[hoary crag]

I have my zipline networks

😭

[waxen shard]

you can check it and tell me what you think 🙂

[zenith kiln]

How is your use even that low, do you just turn off component power completely?

[hoary crag]

I mean it'd make sense if they don't have zipline chains

[keen river]

diamondleaf

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. When wanna make components, turn off one battery plant.. Turn on component plant..

[hoary crag]

gravelleaf

[zenith kiln]

So thats the person damaging my deliveries down to 70% 😭

[hoary crag]

and then we'd also get gunpowder leaf

[ruby sorrel]

how many zips

[hoary crag]

so we can combine all 3 in a packaging unit so we'd get TNTleaf

[ruby sorrel]

wait I just remembered I haven't refresh my shared zips today

that was close

[hoary crag]

30+ in wuling, around 18-20 in jingyu, around 10 in stockade

[ruby sorrel]

hmm around same as my total then

that's still ~1 SC right?

[hoary crag]

1 SC + pwm

[ruby sorrel]

I have +orig

[hoary crag]

but yeah 2h and 1d reports would show 1 SC

[ruby sorrel]

50 is too low for pwm lol

[hoary crag]

my power usage is 3.61K

my pwm can handle up to 3.65k

[pulsar cypress]

[ruby sorrel]

that's a lot of power hmm 42/17/10 zips

farm+stash still at 3450

[zenith kiln]

Oh I totally forgot farms are a thing

[pulsar cypress]

Alluv weaponry..

[ruby sorrel]

eh just battery power those it's like a few weeks per batt

[zenith kiln]

Is there even any point outside of the oro rewards

[pulsar cypress]

Nop..

[ruby sorrel]

idk in case I want a bunch of ginseng and rice

[pulsar cypress]

Maybe ginseng or rice for buff..

[ruby sorrel]

spoilers I don't want ginseng or rice

[keen river]

ginseng food is so nice for boss trimming

[ruby sorrel]

idk I'm still missing marble and I don't think food is making up 30+s diff

[keen river]

for marble for 30s for sure

its a massive dmg boost

[ruby sorrel]

maybe I'll give it another go, I only used food on rhodagn cus I was still leveling stuff

[keen river]

iirc weapon gives you 400-500 base damage and stew is 180 base dmg flat plus crit bonus on top of it

its easily 50% more damage dealt

[hollow stone]

do valley batteries work in wullig?

[tall tangle]

yes

[hollow stone]

ty so i can power it by hand for now

Is there a way to acess valley storagewithout teleporting there

[tall tangle]

it takes long

and in most cases not worth it

alternatively you can sit in space and transfer things manually by switching depot. either way it's pain in butt

[hollow stone]

ye got regional transfer thought its to slow for anything

[hollow stone]

ye this way i only trasnfered 1k batteries i guess gonna be usefull when i start up batteries prod

how many outposts are currently possible to get?
i mean ones expect hub

in wuling

[iron spoke]

only 1

[hollow stone]

ty i guess i gonna do story i unlock it

until

[iron spoke]

are you NA region? and did you just get access to forge of the sky?

[hollow stone]

just unlocked forge

[iron spoke]

if you're NA region can use this to start out Blueprint Code: EFO010U97o09A7iaE179. It only uses two originium ports on main PAC and requires no upgrades. Will stock xiranite and create a LC wuling battery at 1/3rd production speed.

[hollow stone]

i played a lot of factories games, the most i plan is "inspire" from other bps, not use them and i dont see need

[opal tapir]

is there any difference between mk1 and mk2 mining rig besides that mk2 can mine ferrium?

[hollow stone]

more power drain

5 vs 10

[opal tapir]

what abt mining speed

and transfer speed

[hollow stone]

transfer doesnt matter

[opal tapir]

mining?

[hollow stone]

same

i would have od numbers but i dont

i thought for long its better since more power draw

but in endfield there no better recipes saddly

[opal tapir]

ah ok 😭 i went around the map eplacing all the mk1 with mk2 smh

[hollow stone]

i planned to but then noticed more power drain while no change

in resources

[opal tapir]

yea im replacing some mk2 with hydro mining rigs in wuling

[hollow stone]

i guess it should be better
but it is game design

[opal tapir]

it is besides the pump it aint using any power altho im using it only when there are 5 or 6 mining spots in one place

[hollow stone]

i meaned using better miner should give more resources

i dindt finish sentance xd

like in factorio or satisfactory as example

[opal tapir]

thats what i thought smh 😭 im gonna put back mk1s

[hollow stone]

oh kind of nice

[hollow stone]

i would love to see a lot of "small features" like overflow

more splitters

basic circurtry

while not required u can do fun stuff with it

[opal tapir]

first factory game for me onyl thing i know beside this is redstone

[hoary crag]

lmao

[hoary crag]

imagine if we have to work with something similar to redstone logic when we get the third region

[hollow stone]

if it was "normal" factory game u coudnt be able to skip parts or componets xd

[hoary crag]

HG let it be la fantoma pls

[pulsar cypress]

*me who cant even understand how redstone work..

[hoary crag]

I wanna meet martina again

underrated npc

[opal tapir]

uh like the computer science overflow? 😭

[opal tapir]

theres a bunch of ytubers out there

[hollow stone]

splitter with overflow functon

[opal tapir]

just watch em

[hollow stone]

also better belts i mean faster

better machnies tiers

[opal tapir]

true current belt slow asf

[hollow stone]

30/m

[pulsar cypress]

My brain still cant comprehend it..

[hoary crag]

tbh faster belts won't actually do shit unless we can get facilities to overclock as well

[hollow stone]

some machines do 1/s

so 60/m

also

[pulsar cypress]

Faster belt without faster production time will only cause massive clog..

[hollow stone]

ye thats why better tiers

[hoary crag]

that's just the pump tho afaik

[hollow stone]

i mean maybe

[hoary crag]

everything else is either 2s or 10s

[hollow stone]

do depots have set speed?

[hollow stone]

meds

sandleaf powder is 3/s

or 3/6s

forgot

[hoary crag]

1.5/s

[hollow stone]

3/6

ye

[hoary crag]

it's 0.5/s per output on every facility

except for some prod 2 units with 0.1/s instead

[hollow stone]

actually i would prefer if everything was ajusted to 1/s so 60 per minute

[hoary crag]

but yeah unless we'd get faster prod 2 units

[hollow stone]

ye

[hoary crag]

faster belts won't do much at all

[hollow stone]

smaller designs

u could do 6 sandleaf dust on one belt

[ruby sorrel]

think of all the sandleaf belts you could save

it's always the sandleaf

[pulsar cypress]

[hollow stone]

yes

i mean we would be locked anyway by miners

[pulsar cypress]

For pipe its sewage..
For belt its sandleaf..

[ruby sorrel]

they just need to stack 2 boxes on top of each other on the belts

or 3

[pulsar cypress]

Belt output adjustment..

[hollow stone]

oh also underclocking machines

[pulsar cypress]

Like make toggle 2/s belt or 1/s belt..

[ruby sorrel]

nah I bet those slots only output 1 box at a time, you'd need a box stacker logistics to make belts move more stuff

[hollow stone]

while\ i can balance split stuff

[ruby sorrel]

I wonder if it's more efficient to use a stash to balance ferrium actually... I'll think about this if it's still relevant in 1.2

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Like me.. Using stash for equal distribution..

[hollow stone]

can u sell to wulig outpost some valley stuff?

not unlockedc it yet'

[subtle finch]

no

just indirectly, like using hc bat to sell more sc wuling bat

[hollow stone]

ok ty

[vale topaz]

only 3k tcred left

[queen bloom]

what is the highest possible wuling product income?

[vale topaz]

12 sc battery and 6 yanzhen a

[hoary crag]

12/min sc battery
6/min yazhen syringe A
2.75/min yazhen syringe C or jincao drink (requires ferrium metatransfer)

[queen bloom]

what about the sc battery usage?

[subtle finch]

the margins to clear the outpost bills is pretty forgiving right now, unless you're hoarding for the next patch

[hoary crag]

1 thermal bank will do assuming you don't have zipline chains

otherwise you'd need a pwm

[vale topaz]

depend on your base design.
great power saving , only 1.
if not, more then 1 or you can import v4 hc battery to help, so no need to use 2 sc battery

[marble yarrow]

3400 power is more than enough even if you have ziplines

[queen bloom]

Hmm mine is 11/3 sc battery

too much?

[tall tangle]

even if you have ziplines, tower killboxes and produce everything i'd say

[vale topaz]

uhh, 2 thermal banks ?

[subtle finch]

I have zipline chains and sprinkers and i'm doing fine

[pulsar cypress]

Like this..

XD almost same time..

[mighty pasture]

is it worth it to leave it like this?

[marble yarrow]

nah, real players give turrets their own batteries

[mighty pasture]

it actually wasn't that bad too

[subtle finch]

you're using too much

[pulsar cypress]

No, ur origin will depleted and factory died..

[subtle finch]

expect something to slow down

[mighty pasture]

when i head off to sleep i turn off SC packaging, the next day i woke up the depot near max again

it's been running the whole time when i turn off and on for SC

it works and i'm confused

but at least it works

[pulsar cypress]

Well.. As long as u not forget to turn it on and off everytime..
XD
For me it looks like a hassle..

[mighty pasture]

maybe we getting more originium mining site soon

i prob leave it like this

[queen bloom]

I can't seem to empty my wuling stock lol, tang2 produce so many bills

[tall tangle]

in before surprise amethyst

[pulsar cypress]

Remember, when u turn off sc production..
The sewage consumption halted..
Sewage in conduit will full and clogging your copium refinery it come from..
Make it not working also..

[mighty pasture]

yeah it's fine

[subtle finch]

sewage and xiranite balance is many beginners don't understand until everything is clogged and your factory is dead

[fervent spoke]

Just throw more Sand leaf powder on it

[mighty pasture]

what am i gonna do with these

[mighty pasture]

and these

what the heck am i doing back then

[mighty pasture]

oh...

[keen river]

just convert those to batteries 🤷‍♂️

[mighty pasture]

batteries works fine no need em

[subtle finch]

just use them for depot delivery

[upper fiber]

that's why modular factory exists

[hoary crag]

imagine

[subtle finch]

everything is modular if you cut it properly

[hoary crag]

fr

[hoary crag]

do you think a 10-11 forge setup is possible in sub-pac

ofc with the planters still being moved outside

[subtle finch]

why not

this is true modular

[young igloo]

better move the carbon production also

[hoary crag]

lmao

[hoary crag]

needs more stashes

[young igloo]

not enough stash

[hoary crag]

imagine if they release a protocol stash plushie

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[young igloo]

qyurii would be so pissed off

[hoary crag]

[young igloo]

[hoary crag]

a plushie is still a plushie

and then also give it like a cute face or smth

kinda like that claymore plushie that says 'front towards friend'

[hollow stone]

oh i can already make it thought i need to unlock outpost for cash anyway xd

[mighty pasture]

xiranite usage gone wild

[young igloo]

why u crafting vro, just transfer dense ori from v4

ofc in case u havent have a use for meta transfer

[mighty pasture]

now what's a meta transfer?

[hollow stone]

i dont have meta transfer yet

[young igloo]

ori yield barely support 2 battery line so dont waste it lmao

[hollow stone]

u need to maxz it

[young igloo]

but u do have normal transfer right?

it work the same

[hollow stone]

i have

[young igloo]

just meta create ghost producti

[hollow stone]

i dont have meta yet

[young igloo]

then make a dense ori line to keep supporting a normal transfer

[hollow stone]

woudmt it be to slow

[young igloo]

check ur aic

[young igloo]

iirc it transfer the same load of stuff

[hollow stone]

'500/per 1h

[subtle finch]

or just use a splitter and take from your battery's grinder

[hollow stone]

also do u mean the one i showns or battery material?

[young igloo]

1k huh so less than meta transfer

mb sorry

[hollow stone]

500

[mighty pasture]

idr i did this

wrong click on reply mb

[young igloo]

transfer dense ori instead

take 2 more refinery but it preserve more load

[hollow stone]

right

i see i guess i gonna setup it

[young igloo]

f amethyst doing in wuling vro

u crafting bomb?

[subtle finch]

we dont question nep's decison around here, we just let them cook

[young igloo]

i did see some of his dish

[mighty pasture]

i have no idea

[young igloo]

still questioning the chef but yeah let him cook

[mighty pasture]

for now i just empty these

now what's the easiest thing to do

jincao or syringe?

[subtle finch]

bout the same

[young igloo]

is that a mfk stash

[mighty pasture]

i guess syringe because syringe heals more

[young igloo]

component is supposed to run once in a while or run with slow down logistic

i mean catalyst is limited weekly anyway

[mighty pasture]

the heck?

[young igloo]

if ur not a perfectionist or some sort please manage your resource and dont make 58k component

[mighty pasture]

oh that's what you mean

[young igloo]

i do have a comp blueprint and i discard it after im done

[subtle finch]

they mentioned earlier they've got dense and packed ori in stocks

[young igloo]

have to preserve power in some way

[subtle finch]

i think they just wanna use all that

[young igloo]

but xiranite is a problem no ?

[subtle finch]

if you use it, its not wasted

[young igloo]

fair have a nice day

[mighty pasture]

i mean...

[upper fiber]

a burnt egg is still edible

[mighty pasture]

depot still have plenty

[young igloo]

i deliver xiranite for live mf

shush

[tall tangle]

to get rid of all components of components (or if i need armor badly) i usually do the black magic of ctrl+rmb and reach over 50 per minute for a short time

[young igloo]

too much work

[subtle finch]

to others its easier to just make whatever they need right now and not care about maintaining a perfect usage/gain ratio

[young igloo]

i still have like 5k8 future comp there see

[upper fiber]

late 3days won't affect much

[young igloo]

yeah fair

who care if u cant steal all tang clan money with ur battery

the point is to have fun

[upper fiber]

what if 1.2 has new component already

[tall tangle]

messing with aic is a part of fun

[young igloo]

i have had my fun perfecting stuff

[hallow summit]

Nope just new area and new story new operator

[upper fiber]

bro is beta tester huh

[young igloo]

we do have a beta?

[hallow summit]

We don’t

[upper fiber]

dunno, usually have, maybe hg afraaid of leak

[young igloo]

not leek tho

mf i love my leek

let me gamba my leek

[sick basin]

2 new areas, 1 outpost, 2 or so new buildings, new depots and stocks, new lvls, lvl4 current outpost :yippe:

[hallow summit]

This is fun way to do

[hoary crag]

excuse me but what is that graphics setting 😭

[hallow summit]

60 fps very high

[fervent lodge]

guys tell me congrats
i finally built a yazhen syringe line

i've just been destroying copper because i was too lazy

[upper fiber]

https://giphy.com/gifs/good-job-well-done-great-lFHtqqh6orvAhbiGmy

[fervent lodge]

outpost is finally trending up so my hand is forced

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-movie-celebration-celebrate-crying-gif-7727107777105242447

[subtle finch]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-evangelion-ending-neon-genesis-evangelion-episode-26-gif-14733416621408555937

[fervent lodge]

you know the first thing i did

i put jincao in it.

[young igloo]

grat

jincao A should be relevant next update

keep stocking like fuyu

[fathom grotto]

My yahzen syringe is full and the whole factory is stalled because no culprium is processed

[subtle finch]

im using jincao drink instead of infusion because the icon looks cooler

[fathom grotto]

now if i want to use the culprium to make sth else like the component instead i have to discard 1 battery unit

why is this so stupid

[fervent lodge]

just destroy it

[hallow summit]

Fortnite battle pass

[fervent lodge]

or sell first next time

or just use it all on tangtang

she'll love it

[young igloo]

i trashed 58k coprium once

[fervent lodge]

i did that for the last week

[young igloo]

just once tho

[hoary crag]

lmao

I use infusion not because it's the best healing item

but because I like to imagine them drinking from a literal plate mid-combat

[subtle finch]

it reminds me of ~~my mother ~~ shu

[hoary crag]

flat but very fertile?

[tired orchid]

Bruh, tutorial?

Confused about how to get up?

[mighty pasture]

too lazy doing factory for 3 days in a row

dump whatever in i'm out

need some break

is 1 reactor of yazhen solution enough for 2 filling?

[young igloo]

need 1 more fitting

[mighty pasture]

right when i'm asking

[young igloo]

and 1 more line of coprium into molding

2 cuprium = 1 bottle

[mighty pasture]

ah

maybe i should line in the depot

[young igloo]

id rcm doing cuprium refinery in another place for better positioning

[subtle finch]

[mighty pasture]

i may need to redo everything

move it somewhere else

[pulsar cypress]

Why is tat looks like don't have solid input output..?

[hoary crag]

cuz it's outside aic

you have seeding units as decor near your plots, right?

check them out

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. You need 2 more unloader for 2 more copium refining..

Ahh.. Didn't realize the in out slot gone..
XD

[subtle finch]

i have no input and output, and i must scream

[hoary crag]

lmao

[fervent lodge]

haha bald

[hoary crag]

the grinding unit's just there

😭

[subtle finch]

we have operators speedrun, we should have aic speedrun too

no belts, you move everything by hand

[hoary crag]

lmao

I actually put an AIC version of delvers event in the suggestions box

[pulsar cypress]

.... No thanks.. T^T)

[mighty pasture]

i think i'll do everything tomorrow...

[hoary crag]

as well as annihilation version of sub-pac defense

[mighty pasture]

brain damage over and over

lemme steal some syringe bp maybe

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)/*pats

Asia?

[mighty pasture]

ye

[hoary crag]

mine's messy sadly

[pulsar cypress]

Can give mine if wanna..

[hoary crag]

I don't really care much about the sub-pac lines for now

especially syringe since I couldn't get them to look good at all

[mighty pasture]

i wanna see if i can fit it on my main pac

[hoary crag]

to my standards at least

[pulsar cypress]

U can ignore/delete the C type.
Coz it merge into one..

[cyan forge]

c syringe?

[pulsar cypress]

Mine like this, right A type 6/min + left C type 2.75/min..

[cyan forge]

looks nice

[fathom grotto]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1462829207385149617/1484766316127588414/content.2e3967fe.png?ex=69c20ee3&is=69c0bd63&hm=02c49dbf29bc065326fe528615b513ed4f77771facb14c9e4cc5fac0354d287d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1111&height=1019

[mighty pasture]

far ahead are xiranite
left one is 2 SC and 1 LC bat so the free space there is where i wanna fit the syringe

[keen river]

two days till new event and nine days till end of 1.1

[fathom grotto]

literally 0 content

[keen river]

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=3910&iso=20260411T1930&year=2026&month=4&day=11&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&msg=1.2 live stream also this

[tall tangle]

i just wish 1 reactor could make 2 of the same liquid

[hoary crag]

^^

[mighty pasture]

yeah already done all agony umbral monument under 12 days since started

factory content is the true final boss

[tall tangle]

there is no final boss the monent you are satisfied with production T_T

[pulsar cypress]

Its still spacious, more than enough.

[fervent lodge]

there is

[mighty pasture]

is this a mix of syringe and jincao?

[hoary crag]

the final boss is making your factory compact while having it still look good

[pulsar cypress]

The meds A&C only took that small bottom right section.

And yess.. Syr A and Jin C..

[tall tangle]

"look good" is subjective and very reachable, while compact cant go too far from it

[hoary crag]

lots of space for protocol stashes

you have less than 2 weeks left to stockpile for 1.2 😭

for me I'd even stop selling once 1.2 livestream drops

[pulsar cypress]

*whole sub pac empty.. More spacious for stash army..

[hoary crag]

perfect

[keen river]

at least wuling is super customizable, my v4 pac ended with L shaped belt river :<

[pulsar cypress]

[hoary crag]

waiting for the day they release protocol stash plushie

[mighty pasture]

smaller than i though

[hoary crag]

if only the facility limit didn't exist

I could've filled my entire main aic with stashes

😭

[mighty pasture]

meanwhile indonesia factory be like

[pulsar cypress]

31 x 23 block space used.
120 copium, none left for gear
30 ferrium + 25 from meta transfer if wanna use the type C production also

EFO011947ea6e9U2a34O7

[keen river]

the corporate needs you to embrace the standalone stash

[hoary crag]

also I've always been sharing the cloudy pic of my aic since it's what I prefer

but I also have a sunny pic of it lol

[pulsar cypress]

Here's the code if wanna test it.

[mighty pasture]

lol i just logged out

time to go back

[pulsar cypress]

Depot pillow and pylon hug pillow..

[hoary crag]

someone earlier actually mentioned what if depot bus port pillow + 2 depot bus section pillows

[pulsar cypress]

Thats nice also..

And belt line blanket..

[mighty pasture]

this isn't "Factory must grow" anymore
it's "Factory keeps going"

[hoary crag]

belt line blanket looks weird if you think about it

[keen river]

well, i have way too much time in factorio so yeah

[keen river]

well, if it was like 10 belts next to each other with some resources on them it could look pretty nice

and then one belt has a gap in it suggesting part of your factory is malfunctioning

[hoary crag]

I think for a blanket, the topography graphics used on the bg of regional maps would be really nice

tbf they've already used a similar design on their umbrellas

[pulsar cypress]

When u use the blanket, it will be like ur head being transported..

[hoary crag]

😭

[pulsar cypress]

Entering the depot pillow..

[hoary crag]

a tp point lamp

[pulsar cypress]

Thats a cool sleeping lamp..
Orange originium color..

Or green light of the xiranite pillar shape..

[keen river]

i need a figurine of perlica in the CEO pose

[tall tangle]

xiranite is better. originium light would give me more arknights ptsd

[keen river]

and if ever get the dijiang anything, it should be an usb hub 😅

[fervent lodge]

i need a figurine of a pac first

[keen river]

btw

want to read something you will never be able to unread and unsee?

[subtle finch]

i said it before, aic themed pc components would go hard along with hard line water cooling

[keen river]

||for reasons unknown, you cant see Talos I (the gas giant) from on board of dijiang||

[leaden drift]

Hmmm nicu namu

[subtle finch]

exhibit a: they forgor

maybe we're also in L1

[keen river]

they are supposedly both in geostationary and low orbit above the moon

the moon doesnt seem to be tidally locked with talos I either

[subtle finch]

imagine we bump into kristen

[keen river]

well, i do hope the lore and setting gets expanded more in future one way or another

there are way too many unknowns so far

and also hard to tell whats canon or not

[sick basin]

It barely just started

[keen river]

especially since official stuff contradicts itself a lot

[tall tangle]

are there no windows on backside of that ship? its also angled towards t2, not perpendicular

[keen river]

you can see the space behind the ship from bridge

[distant hamlet]

Guys how do I improve this am I overthinking things again

[subtle finch]

then we're in l2 like jwst

[keen river]

just void

[tall tangle]

then we are not supposed to see in from land either, cuz we would be on right side of mass2

[distant hamlet]

I thought I got the ratios right but stuff keeps clogging 😖

[sick basin]

Ye cuz you need to double the input bestie

[keen river]

hard to tell if dijiang is even in stable orbit or even actively floated with originium

[sick basin]

BuckA needs 10 bottles and the buckflower thingy
1 belt input is only 5

Need 1 more of both

In 10s

[distant hamlet]

Oh.

[silent violet]

man i guarantee that they weren’t thinking about lagrange points when they were making the skybox for dijang

[distant hamlet]

I failed to take this into consideration as well

[sick basin]

[keen river]

tbh the probably the discarded lore of dijiang being constructed on surface and launched, as trailer shows

[subtle finch]

idk, they can be overdetailed in some science aspect of the game if they want
im sure they have their reasons

[keen river]

is more interesting than likely current lore of it being constructed in orbit years ago

[silent violet]

it can be as easy as the ppl didn’t want to model 2 things and chose to model one instead

[distant hamlet]

Thank you wise yush
I shall take your advice

[mighty pasture]

how many pump you have in a single inlet?

[pulsar cypress]

2 pump

[mighty pasture]

no wonder it feel weak

[tall tangle]

i feel like dijang theorizing belongs in lore containment

[pulsar cypress]

2 pump = 4 refining

[keen river]

probably, worry not

[fervent lodge]

@subtle finch remember you wanted a "connect to depot" debug tool? I think this won't be needed because lack of data was the primary reason you wanted it

[silent violet]

also they aren’t gonna put in the effort to model orbit accurately anyway so just assume that u are in geostationary orbit and any time u visit dijang it’s just at a moment where your view of 1 is blocked by talos 2

[fervent lodge]

also where tf do i put the power pylon

[tall tangle]

isnt it better to move out fitting units as you might need those parts elsewhere?

[fervent lodge]

I remember a writer sharing a piece of advice of not giving precise technical information because you will never get it right and someone will always out-nerd you
how far was the planet? big far.
which orbit? above.

[keen river]

you probably could move those building around to put power pole between the cuprium processors and the filling unit

[silent violet]

real

[carmine whale]

is there way to make water go to both?> or i gotta put up diff facility and diff pipe

[fervent lodge]

then i'll just slap whatever i need them for nearby

[keen river]

you need a pipe splitter

[fervent lodge]

press z, choose pipe splitter

[subtle finch]

in between the packaging and filling

[tall tangle]

true, then atleast stash half of shredding. i pitty wasted opportunity of more rice dust

[fervent lodge]

uhuh :)

[subtle finch]

that's not fair, why do you have a dark mode

[fervent lodge]

you also do

lmao

go settings

[keen river]

remove that top pylon, and move the shredder + filling unit one pixel toward top ? 🤔

then you can put new pylon in the gap under filling unit

ie here

[fervent lodge]

:^)

it's so annoying lmfao

[trail mirage]

im finee

[fervent lodge]

i've been shuffling it for the last 5 minutes

without extra power pole it's joever...

[hollow stone]

Is there way to increaee cap on ziplines? Or only the ones from other players?

[keen river]

increasing region development level increases zipline cap if i recall

[trail mirage]

level up regional level

[hollow stone]

Oh ty

[keen river]

you could also try to rotate the filling unit 90 degrees 🤔

[subtle finch]

dw, i cheated on mine

[mighty pasture]

@pulsar cypress thankss it works now

[pulsar cypress]

Yaayyy..

[tall tangle]

i have it small and cute

[fervent lodge]

that almost always results in worse topologies due to the 3 inputs forcing the footprint to be at least input + output + 4 anyway, which ends up being 6x6

that said idk

i wanted the neat short pipe

[carmine whale]

what could i do to make it so every rig always has water and sometimes dont have to wait? does it matter if not ll jst leave it like this

[keen river]

which blueprint design site are you using anyway

[fervent lodge]

pins

[keen river]

yeah there are like three of them arent there

enkad and endfieldtools

[fervent lodge]

well you obviously pick the good one the one closest to the top

[keen river]

and something else i think

😅

[sick basin]

Use 2 pumps
3 nodes for 1 pump

[tall tangle]

i have 2 per pump

[sick basin]

3 high purity
6 low purity
2 high purity 2 low purity
1 high purity 4 low purity

Is what can 1 pump handle

[subtle finch]

what made me settle on my layout is the icon alignment, it’s the best I can manage.
if the circles aren’t aligned, the layout looks chaotic.

[sick basin]

Ocd

[fervent lodge]

i like how you re-screenshot sharex markup instead of just proceeding with the actual rectangle shot

(i also do that shit)

[tall tangle]

+10 energy. yay?

[carmine whale]

is it possible to bring a tower from here? im not able to find a way there

[fervent lodge]

i did this

[keen river]

i went over the rotating thingy

the only way for clip free power

[tall tangle]

my ocd is very unique

[keen river]

this is a perfect spot for a tower

[carmine whale]

took me a extra did like this

[fervent lodge]

works

[carmine whale]

also where are u supposed to find water here?

[fervent lodge]

drag it in from the nearest

[keen river]

next to river duh

[fervent lodge]

either conduit it

funny filters

[carmine whale]

💀 thats near? ok so long journey

[keen river]

its like 150m

the conduit can go 200m

[fervent lodge]

wow the buffer indicators help immensely

why didn't i add them earlier

[carmine whale]

can u show the whole way u brought?

[keen river]

nah, use the conduit

not a pipe

you connect them like valley 4 power poles

this thingy

[carmine whale]

oh

[keen river]

you probably could use the old good pipe if you put some splitters to break it into shorter pieces but eh

its annoying as heck when conduits are just easier to use

[distant hamlet]

Ok I fixed the ratios, I think.
But now I have a problem with the converger clogging my grinders, any advice? I don't want sphaggetti

Should I just place 2 stashes

Also doubled the plants too

[fervent lodge]

you can't converge fully saturated belts

you're trying to fit 90/m cube into 30/m max throughput belt

just use 2 stashes if you want aesthetics

or slap the fitting unit on top

[distant hamlet]

Other then that, does this make any sense?

[fervent lodge]

yea, ratios check out

[tall tangle]

meanwhile someone did that back then with only pipes

[subtle finch]

someone did that with only bottles too

[fervent lodge]

otherwise, i'd really recommend putting the filling unit on top of the production chain

[distant hamlet]

How do you mean?

[fervent lodge]

because depots come at a premium

[distant hamlet]

Oh, put it above everything?

[fervent lodge]

yea

directly downstream

then you'll have more depot outputs for something else (like duplicating this build immediately next to it)

[distant hamlet]

Yeah I wanna avoid using depos
Put this is technically my first build

[carmine whale]

where did u set this up for the water here?

[fervent lodge]

that's an outlet

you need an inlet here to pump into

pump -> inlet -> funny underground pipe -> outlet -> miners

[distant hamlet]

How do I split this tho? Just the filling unit? Wb the bottles

[carmine whale]

oh ok ill change to intlet but do i jst use it here?

[fervent lodge]

just grab that entire thing and put it on top of the right side production

[keen river]

you can just put the water pump on this pier, it will grab water from river bellow

[fervent lodge]

or in your orientation, below

[keen river]

and then connect that water pump to the inlet

[tall tangle]

visualized

[carmine whale]

alright

[keen river]

and then drag from the intlet to the outlet next to the miners

and you are good

[subtle finch]

this shows the principles of good layout for valley iv

planters down, ores top

[keen river]

you dont need power near the miners, neither outlet nor water miners use it

[distant hamlet]

OHH You mean directly put it under the condensed?

I am so stupid

[fervent lodge]

yeah

[distant hamlet]

Oh this is very pretty

Could I copy?

[fervent lodge]

what's the size on this?

[distant hamlet]

I bought max size dunno if it matters

[subtle finch]

24x45

[carmine whale]

aigh that was annoying ok got it thanks

[keen river]

👍

[fervent lodge]

neat

[distant hamlet]

Mind if I copy this build?

[subtle finch]

go ahead, its not mine

[tall tangle]

i remember making steel separately and then supplying things with it. it's easy to forget alley4 after while

[carmine whale]

usually what are the stufs even if u dont farm/make anymore in your factory u shud have atleast to like to make the facilities etc? just stacking up on all again since recently i somehow was out of amethyst part so started farmin again

[tall tangle]

is the question what are you lacking or what you dont need?

[keen river]

Some stockpile of xiranite is good to have for power poles i guess

[carmine whale]

what i might need to make to craft like the facilities wheneber

[keen river]

But you can just drop like 1k to valley4 depo and it will last forever

Also crystion circuits for the zipline towers, but thats about it i think

[carmine whale]

but ig u dont really need much i was out of amethyst part somehow farmed it fora day and already got so much

[keen river]

You dont neee much of those one way or another

[tall tangle]

thats about it for 1st region

[carmine whale]

holy amount alr ty

[hollow stone]

Does forge of the sky has other recipes?

[tall tangle]

yes. poop into fertilizer

[hollow stone]

it is usefull?

[tall tangle]

i dunno. never used it

[hollow stone]

i guess then xiranite better

[cyan forge]

If u wanna double ur ecofarm yield, yeah

But it's not worth imo

[hollow stone]

i forgot about ecofarms xd

[shrewd sigil]

how do you make that citrome capsule

[tall tangle]

which? canned box one? it's loot (likely). but it's also made with steel, just look up recipe

[shrewd sigil]

i meant to ask powder one but alrighty

[carmine whale]

can anyone show how yall brought towers here 🥀

[tall tangle]

thats very early in a game

[tall tangle]

would not recommend. i'm odd one for doing it like this

[carmine whale]

goddamn thats long i was wondering if possible from science park bottom right place

[river wadi]

bro the infra station has got to be closer

[tall tangle]

it is possible

[river wadi]

yea i relayed from infra station

[carmine whale]

ah hell na this aint wuling i cant connect like this

[river wadi]

js go around

[vocal jackal]

i know this is like really unoptimized but what can i fix here to make it more efficient?

[river wadi]

For the protocol stash at the bottom for amethyst powder you can use a depot loader to save power

[carmine whale]

what would be the way to go to that mining spot??

do i circle it around

or theres any way im missing

[tall tangle]

do not shove 2 item types into 1 output stash

[subtle finch]

yeah, behind the building

[vocal jackal]

oh really? is it cuz if the other item goes into the limit it doesnt send both? (just happened earlier)

[tall tangle]

you have to walk with wires, so cant hop down mountain or over ravines

[carmine whale]

i tried jumping down from there i die lmao prolly to high

[unique pond]

Is there any way to further optimize xyranite production, or is everything fine as it is?

[river wadi]

if your hitting 120 xiranite per min then thats good

[unique pond]

I tried to make it as efficient as possible in terms of production and energy.

[subtle finch]

the only factor you missed are aesthetic and size, if those matter to you

[carmine whale]

what about these 2 do i just continue and run around the whole map or u can come from another pac to here

[tall tangle]

either way works

[unique pond]

Guys, how much liquid xiranite is needed to make the SC battery?

[river wadi]

you need 2 forges feeding into 2 crucibles for liquid xiranite

[carmine whale]

is this place underground or possible to go like this?

[gentle sentinel]

You could

[tall tangle]

as long as caves height allows

[sonic summit]

btw you can do teleport trick

[carmine whale]

whats that

[sonic summit]

so you know that line disconect when you go to zipline?

[carmine whale]

yea

[sonic summit]

the line wont disconect if you teleport to teleport point that not more than 80m

[river wadi]

isnt it 100 before it force disconnects

[sonic summit]

you still can only connect 80 meter max

[hollow stone]

Does this exist?

like infinite source

[sonic summit]

nope only from crucible

[sonic summit]

let me show you my electricity path

[carmine whale]

Wtf didn't knew that

[tall tangle]

it can if you want it to. not infinite though

[hollow stone]

is there higher their component?

[sonic summit]

like this

[iron stratus]

cuprium

[hollow stone]

i need to finish 2 3 part of story?

[carmine whale]

wowie

[sonic summit]

in fact, look at my origin lodespring lines

[distant hamlet]

Guys can I make the refugee camp outposts in valley IV into a battery power plant

This is what I had before, but I wanna upgrade to the next battery tier
I just upgraded the plkot size

[carmine whale]

bruh i did sm work for nothing skull

[sonic summit]

yes just 1 though i recomend to make refuge to 6/ min buck a plant

[sonic summit]

[carmine whale]

i put double the amount of points than u

[distant hamlet]

What does this mean

[river wadi]

buck capsule A

[sonic summit]

also my lines there also works to power zipline into farming spot

[carmine whale]

does putting more towers take more factory power

[sonic summit]

nah its end game

[distant hamlet]

I did this for buck

[sonic summit]

more facilities slot but not power

[sonic summit]

HERE MINE 6/minute BUCK A

cus limited facilites in this place for some reason

[sonic summit]

my best is 12/min hc battry on originium park alone

[distant hamlet]

All I wanted was to avoid sphagetti

[sonic summit]

TOO BAD I AM ALL INTO SPAGETI

need to do some ilegal manufacture technique

[river wadi]

how much ferrium is that

[sick basin]

Each unloader is 30
So math it

[sonic summit]

dunno i am maxed

[sick basin]

Its 240 btw
Spoilers

U have 1080 anyway

[sonic summit]

good

yeah i use 1076 / min

split 1 of the ferium output into 26,5

[sharp pier]

I think I'll stick to blueprints as recommended here to me

jeebus

I imagine Satisfactory and Factorio, two games I've never played...

are crazier than this

[hollow stone]

how much syringe per minute can u make in wuling? with maxed regional development?

[sick basin]

Which syringe

[hollow stone]

there better ones?

[iron stratus]

yazhen A

[hollow stone]

oh ty. does it use cuprium?

[iron stratus]

6/min and about 2.5/min of c at the same time

[iron stratus]

yeah all of it

[hollow stone]

i guess its a while cant make it yet

[sick basin]

You can make 5.75 of these pre-cuprium
With cuprium, its 6 yazhen A and 2.75 these

[subtle finch]

nothing to do

[hollow stone]

OK TY

ups

[shadow hound]

Fill all five bottle types with Liquid Xiranite and Xircon Affluent in storage
In both depots

[subtle finch]

no thanks

[shadow hound]

have zero sanity like me it's okay it'll be okay

[hollow stone]

its 30x 43
its propably possible to make it smaller?

[subtle finch]

just search xiranite in blueprint channel, all the smallest records are there

[iron stratus]

use wuling plants for carbon since they take up 25 less tiles to produce

[hollow stone]

plan to make stuff on my own i guess

[stoic coyote]

you can get to examine the layouts

[hollow stone]

?

[hollow stone]

ye propably but i dont want to be inspired to much

[stoic coyote]

1 wuling plant for 2 carbon cubes

[subtle finch]

some recipes are not shown by default, place jincao/yazhen in refining unit

[hollow stone]

oh ty

[subtle finch]

well, you dont need to copy it. but you wont know the benchmark for small until you look at examples

[tall tangle]

for the reference: i'm not space fanatic, but 1 my forge block takes 20x26. thats how convenient carbon from rice is

[iron stratus]

i've found fully contained 1x's down to 15x24 and 15x25

4x will always be more compact than 4 1x's though

[hollow stone]

does depot loader have any use?
since protocol stash have same job

[subtle finch]

loaders are the gold standard if you can utilize them properly

no power cost, and can handle 5 packaging/gearing unit at max output

[hollow stone]

still protocol stash power draw is insignifiant

5Eu

i mean energu unit xd

[subtle finch]

depends how much of a minmaxer you are

ideally you only want 1 for 1-2packaging/gearing unit, dont use it for anything else

so you should only have 5-6 in your base for final products

[hollow stone]

only gearing unit i have is cryston in valley and xiranite in wuling

[red latch]

Guys sorry to ask but is it even worth making the HC Valley Bats on Wuling? I suck soo much at building, that I feel like I have like 10 bat productions trying to keep up with power and it still dies a lot for a few seconds

[subtle finch]

no

[hollow stone]

i guess this should work as overflow Xd 6.25%

[subtle finch]

just use the originium ore surplus for thermal bank directly

[red latch]

Okay thanks I will try

[hollow stone]

hmm about 325 power per belt

can u get 120/m in wuling?

Xd

[subtle finch]

no, most common config is use 25/min limiter

or switch to 11/min bat, and you can go for easy 3/min C meds

[hollow stone]

this?

[tall tangle]

stash takes more space too. than loader that is

[subtle finch]

these

oh nvm its fine

[hollow stone]

it reminds me i never learned how u build most of balancers in factorio

[subtle finch]

this is the updated one

[river wadi]

what does that do

[subtle finch]

limits item

[uneven aspen]

why the 2 extra splitters?

[subtle finch]

that was actually for the sim, belt version wasn't working. but any in-game would do

[river wadi]

is income supposed to be enough to buy all 80 wuling artificing catalysts and craft 80 armors to artifice every week

[upper fiber]

need delivery too

[subtle finch]

i missed 3 last week, make sure you dont overcap on your elastic goods

[uneven aspen]

the 5/min one stopped working in-game for me 💀

[subtle finch]

yeah, i made plenty of experiments on how converger priority actually works
the results are complicated, you really need to check after a relog that it didnt break
neighboring connections can also affect it

[outer basin]

Yes, with extra

[ruby sorrel]

yeah the high throughput convergers need spaces before them so they don't backup and send stuff through the wrong split

[subtle finch]

the splitter at the beginning's purpose is supposed to set the back as low priority, letting everything on the side of the convergers resolve first, and avoiding other splitters from sending at the wrong direction

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but 5/min has another converger

[subtle finch]

the rules i found about convergers so far are:

• with belts, it selects in round robin
• with splitters, it prioritize the first placed side
• the priority can reset when going offline

that extra converger isnt much of a traffic issue if you can just deprioritize the back one

[uneven aspen]

will converger at depot unloader entrance stay consistent?

iirc that how the 5/min was working until trying to move it away

[subtle finch]

the priority it settles to when relogging is inconsistent, I wasnt able to make a read out of the results

[ruby sorrel]

yeah but if your end splitters are up against an input it can do weird things offline

[subtle finch]

but the good thing is the state when relogging is permanent
the bad thing is you need to do trial and error

you cant relog too fast as well, you need your auto management to update and count you going offline

[uneven aspen]

i've been using the 25/min 20/min 10/min ones consistently for a while now so I dont think those are an issue going offline

havent had a reason to use the 15 or 5/min ones yet though

[subtle finch]

its safer to just do 10 and return the other half via loader/stash

[uneven aspen]

been doing 10/min xiranite belts without loader/stash for the xiranite and cuprium components

they are stable for 7day

[subtle finch]

110 cuprium

[mighty pasture]

maybe it's kinda too soon for me to make syringe

[upper fiber]

wonder how people have so many cup ore

[mighty pasture]

might have to switch to jincao

wait

[ruby sorrel]

spicy cuprium usage

[subtle finch]

for me, too much downtime from redesigning

[mighty pasture]

nvm jincao also need cuprium

[ruby sorrel]

you can't sell jincao either so it's problematic atm

[uneven aspen]

because syringe a is doing 5/min so 25/min cuprium bottles so 10 left over cuprium

[mighty pasture]

have to stick with the C

i still haven't make buck capsule A at v4 yet

[upper fiber]

you can make cup powder with the leftover 10

[subtle finch]

you can do 27.5 bottles, but its not a big deal

[ruby sorrel]

oh... that's one place stash balancing would be useful, then you'd only have to mess with 1 cuprium belt

[subtle finch]

mine looks like this, it should auto adjust to 120 usage. between 0.5 to 3/min components

take half before moulding, take half before fitting, and send that to fitting for gearing unit

should work with dual component gearing unit too

[uneven aspen]

wow did not know these existed since no formula uses them

good idea though

will stockpil

[hoary crag]

what are we even supposed to use cuprium powder on

[subtle finch]

blush on 😳

[ruby sorrel]

can you refine it back to cuprium like the other stuff?

[subtle finch]

doesnt look like it

[uneven aspen]

doesnt work

[subtle finch]

unlimited sewage

[hoary crag]

imagine

[upper fiber]

cup powder is for 1.2

source trust me bro

[subtle finch]

they could use that in exchange of ferrium powder for the next battery

[uneven aspen]

doesnt want sewage either

[pulsar cypress]

Do u use copium elsewhere beside the syringe A?

[subtle finch]

you expect it to give the water back?

[mighty pasture]

just 2 more at main base for SC bat to work

sewage for reactor

gonna move the whoel thing to main base

[pulsar cypress]

Ah, turn that off.. And use sewage from meds to battery.

Oh, this med in sub pac..

[mighty pasture]

yeah didn't have my last depot upgrade

soon

just doing job

anyone got the zipline positioning for the delivery job?

[pulsar cypress]

Then u can turn off 2 refinery (1 to bottle and 1 to part) to make it produced half spd..
It will be 120/120

[pulsar cypress]

Everyone have at different position ig..
And some of them might require climbing..

Or connect to miracle zip to make it faster..

[uneven aspen]

you can do it on your own now with 1.1 giving more protocol space and zipline limit

but you can still look up very optimized ones on google

1.0 I had to minmax xiranite towers and pylons 💀

though it was cause i wanted zipline for fertilizers

[mighty pasture]

can't have enough originium can we

i have 3 working HC bat at main base and 2 at 1 subpac

2 other subpac remain unused

[uneven aspen]

should be enough for it

cause i have like 20-30/min origniumcrust as well as 3 hc bats

[subtle finch]

i should've switched to hc battery sooner, it can power 2 region, and still have excess

[pulsar cypress]

Or can just delete 2 refinery and send the refined copium from main base directly from unloader to the part and mould facility.

[mighty pasture]

nah i would just move everything to my main base

my copium placement at main base kinda weird

[hoary crag]

why did this sound like those ad testimonies you used to hear on the radio back then?

[mighty pasture]

can fit 2 buck capsule A maker at sub pac?

i may be tripping but i feel like a 3rd is possible

[pulsar cypress]

1 optimum buck A, 6/min..

Plus buck C at the side..

[wispy grove]

how's yall factory?

[young igloo]

noodle

[pulsar cypress]

Can 2 ig if the plants are somewhere else..
This is mine.. With plant connected to save port use..
1 set buck/cit A (6/m) + 2 set buck/cit C (12/m)

[mighty pasture]

that canned citrome optional?

[subtle finch]

2 hc bat can, 2 med A cant

[pulsar cypress]

Citrome and buck have same selling price..
But by splitting half buck half cit, ur stock slower to reach cap in depot..
°-°)b

C type yes, optional..
Coz the amethyst useless anyways..
XD

[subtle finch]

citrome looks ugly

[mighty pasture]

oh i was late to notice it took 2s for the output to filling

[young igloo]

L citrome slander

btw jincao > yazhen, this game suck for not allowing me to sell jincao A

[subtle finch]

buck A looks like a futuristic medpack, citrome looks like a ww1 ration

[young igloo]

it look like cocacola anniversary edition

[subtle finch]

hmmmm

apparently they feature these beta screenshots when you check endfield on discord

this image is giving me ptsd

[pulsar cypress]

[mighty pasture]

whoever made this is a basement player

[subtle finch]

the only grass im touching is factory grass

[ruby sorrel]

why does it use all the space

[pulsar cypress]

Super free player, having time and patient for it..

[subtle finch]

mine looks boring above

[pulsar cypress]

Space inefficiency probably, coz aiming even the pipes looking mirrored..

[pulsar cypress]

Still neat.. °-°)b

[ruby sorrel]

should just go for rotational symmetry but no one who talks about symmetry ever does that

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. Rotational nicer to the brain..

[young igloo]

pipes

[pulsar cypress]

....
The LB stole my depot center..
Cant deliver goods.. T^T)

[vale topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/energizer-bunny-stillgoing-gif-15647619426124457646

old energizer battery comercial

[hoary crag]

I see a concerning lack of stashes

[viscid plover]

Put stash on random tp spot across the map

[bright zodiac]

legit some galactic brain people out there put EASY STASH on TP point.

and it got shared facility to me, seriously pissed me off

fastest "tab, x , f" key pressed

[viscid plover]

I know I was ranting about it like a month ago lol

Back then you can't even do anything about it

Like why

[bright zodiac]

i already rant about it on day1 and some ppl dont give af about "shared facility" feature always sprout on you

[bright zodiac]

eh? iirc, since day1 we can still manuel click facility info, delete it, and even report it (tho it might not do a shit)

but the core root issue is, even we delete that facility, some other giga brain garbo will spawn on your world soon

[pulsar cypress]

The one that irk me is when someone share a weaponry tower right beside depot node.
Mobs swarming the node when me just wanna grab the delivery package.
-_-)

[bright zodiac]

remember early days, we cant collect stuff on floor or resource when in combat too

[viscid plover]

Oh I meant like deleting them from map

Going in deleting them manually is such a hassle

[bright zodiac]

yea that one is something like near 1.1 featurr

[young igloo]

we still cant ? idk

didnt really notice it since i dont collect chest

[pulsar cypress]

Just when me type it..

This one better, sometimes the tower right in front of depot..
-_-)

[vale topaz]

either the game slowly increased min spec for phone or there's a problem with the software graphic cache : /

[pulsar cypress]

Not sure, only the depot gone.. XD
When me tp far and tp back, it appear again..

[hoary crag]

😭

I was actually wondering during CBTs on like how tf are they gonna make a mobile version of it if the minimum specs is 16gb of ram

[vale topaz]

my android is ancient, won't be playing around with high demanding resource game like endfield x_X

[hoary crag]

also if I'm not mistaken, even the recommended ram during CBT 1 was 32gb

[hoary crag]

I got my current phone like

back in 2019

[vale topaz]

2017 , a redmi note 7

[hoary crag]

😭

probably the heaviest game my phone ever touched was HI3

future gacha games I've played on my laptop

[vale topaz]

i was playing Aether Gazer until finally disk space problem catching up.

[hoary crag]

it still has og arknights but og ak is nowhere as demanding as HI3

lol

I also used to play AL

hmm but yeah as of now the only gachas I play so far are arknights and endfield

if there's one I'd love to get back to, it'd probably be r1999. I was a day 1 player but stopped like 9 months in

[vale topaz]

did the game give special reward to those who played arknight ?

[hoary crag]

endfield?

[vale topaz]

yeah, did endfield give special reward to those who is still playing original ak ?

[hoary crag]

if so, then no. not to mention yostar still has a hold on arknights' global servers. (HG pls take over when)

I don't even think CN players got anything extra

although we do get to be more observant when it comes to endfield's lore and worldbuilding

as of now, I think the most popular complaint of arknights players when it comes to endfield is pretty much one thing:

where's the 'arknights' in arknights: endfield?

[vale topaz]

ahh Yostar.
Aether gazer by yongshi was separating itself from yostar about 2 years ago.
Not sure what is actually happening with Yostar, but surprisingly yongshi remain strong standing alone with Aether gazer.

Due to the dev and publisher name, many thought they are 1 entity, so similiar, Yostar ( pyblisher ) - Yongshi ( developer )

[hoary crag]

since as of now, endfield is more or less having similar problems as arknights during their early period, particularly both story quality and content

[vale topaz]

i keep hearing them, but since i'm not an arknight player, have 0 idea what is that all about.
but if the OG can change into better, it's just a matter of time for endfield to follow through ?
specially if actually yostar is worse then HG as publisher.

[modern swallow]

i just got my factory running again, had so much problems with power but its fixed now.

other than battery, what resources should i keep on piling up? im totally newbie with the factory. lvl 56 tho

[vale topaz]

although the current recession does a great barrier need to be overcome

[hoary crag]

oh arknights rn is living its best life.

but yeah if endfield's going to have a similar event/content release structure as arknights

then don't expect a proper endgame mode until we're half a year in

since that's right around when arknights got its first proper endgame mode

[hoary crag]

wuling I assume?

[vale topaz]

well :

• origocrust
• amethys part
• ferrium part
• steel part
• cryston part
• xiranite ( if you already in wuling )
• cuprium part ( wuling )
  because they are required for factory unit contruction

for puzzle :

• bombs
• bottle ( not much, maybe only 150 -200 at least for now since require 2 type of liquid as standby ammunition )

optional :

• <insert name> component for armor crafting

[modern swallow]

both. im sorry i didnt specify

[hoary crag]

then yeah ges' list would do

[modern swallow]

the medicine products too i presume?

[hoary crag]

buck cap C and citrome C yes

they're very easy to max out as well since you don't really need amethyst in the endgame valley 4 lines

tho in reality they still only apply to valley 4 and don't do much

so it's entirely skippable as well

[vale topaz]

owh endgame, a weekly endgame for extra oroberyl will be nice.
although under impression endfield might follow standard time limited dps race with element limitation.

[hoary crag]

a weekly oroberyl source you say?

[modern swallow]

thanks to both of uuu

[ruby sorrel]

speaking of weeklies do you do cryptic for the weekly missions?

know which one is fastest?

[hidden temple]

the one called ride the wind

[ruby sorrel]

if only there was weekly AIC goal like make a X/min production line for funsies

[hidden temple]

like a min or less

[hoary crag]

endfield could definitely use a version of this

personally I think it's the best fit when it comes to expanding the EWS on sub-pacs

like a massive tower defense we have to clear only with sentries

and we get oroberyls for it, which is also replayable until we hit the weekly cap

[ruby sorrel]

yeah I kinda expected the outpost defence to be more substatial but it turned out to be some one and done thing

[hoary crag]

and to actually have it match the original mode, we'd have to automatically defend against 400 enemies as well

although probably the main concern would be how staging would work

it's not like we should wait for new regions before we get new areas to defend

[vale topaz]

ooo looks fun.
yeah a combination between tower defense and character growth will be nice rather a usual time limited dps race with elemental lock just like other gacha game.

[hoary crag]

btw the concept is you have to defend against 400 enemies, divided into waves of increasing difficulty.

and you get orundum based on your final result out of 400

[ruby sorrel]

actual tower defence, crazy

[vale topaz]

400 enemies right ? not 400 waves of enemies.
i meant, no way playing 400 waves x_X.

[hoary crag]

400 enemies lol

[fluid fog]

400 waves of 400 enemies, that's interesting game mode

[hidden temple]

I just wish the auto defense wasn't so hands off
gimme a tower I can interact with to proc its "skill" when I choose to

[ruby sorrel]

top down tower placement tbh

I forgot to write that in survey again

[hoary crag]

afaik usually wave 1 would be 100, wave 2 another 100, and then 3 waves of 50, and then two waves of 25

[vale topaz]

i kept giving suggestion at survey about quick tower deployment for combat, both at open world and instance.
i wish that can come true, to make factory have some actual use for combat.

[hidden temple]

400 enemies without 2x speed

[hoary crag]

😭

[vale topaz]

owh, well, that's fun.
really enjoy tower defense, although totally missed arknight from day 1.

[hoary crag]

tho if we were to group it by difficulty, the popular setup would be

0-100
101-200
201-300
301-350
351-375
376-400

[hoary crag]

or 351-400

[hoary crag]

yeah the gameplay around sentries could be updated

[leaden drift]

updated factory

i love the way it looks

[magic geyser]

Your factory is so compact, meanwhile mine is a full spaghetti mess.

[leaden drift]

ive been slowly modifying it

it now has overflow protection like crazy