aic-factory

[cyan forge]

[hoary crag]

for me I don't aggressively artifice

[cyan forge]

I love artificing

[hoary crag]

just stocking up on components

because why not

[cyan forge]

Can i hab sum component?

Am at my last 2k parts rn

[hoary crag]

tho I'm currently on a full SC setup cuz I need to drain my outpost

[mild lynx]

Its sooo expensive to full artifice one character

[cyan forge]

Yeah, that's why am at like 10 catalyst rn

And i still need to do tangtang

Then maybe yvone if i want to

[mild lynx]

Then in the next patch they just release a new component series with gear that is more appropriate

[cyan forge]

[mild lynx]

[cyan forge]

Noooooooo

[cyan forge]

I reartificed my lr chest like 3x

I have 3 dif chests for lr alone

[hoary crag]

by monday I'll switch one SC battery line to a LC line + copium components

[mild lynx]

And also the interface kinda sucks, they dont make it easy to know the best match artificing gear

[cyan forge]

Is sc even worth?

[hoary crag]

this I agree

[hoary crag]

...

sc is worth

[cyan forge]

W8

Is sc the big or small

[mild lynx]

Cuprium batts

[cyan forge]

My brain is farting, mb

[hoary crag]

LC -> SC -> HC

we don't have HC yet in wuling

[cyan forge]

I meant lc

Is lc worth?

[mild lynx]

Yea its easier to call by xiranite batt or cuprium batt

[cyan forge]

[hoary crag]

in terms of immediate selling? no, SC is obviously superior

in terms of stockpiling for 1.2? most likely

[cyan forge]

Stockpiling... Hm...

Why not just stockpile sc?

[hoary crag]

why not stockpile both?

[mild lynx]

First batt is xira batt, if you have cuprium (xircon) batt then just use that IF you have outpost level 3, otherwise stay on xira batt until you get it

[trail flint]

is there a bug rn with ore production? Havent touched the machines and they are making less ores than expected since the start of this week - did the patch break something

[cyan forge]

Idk, i don't think we need to stockpile that much if we just do cupri bat

Like the whole subaic is empty anw

Put in like 1000 dead depo storage

That's 300 sc/unit which u can just all stash if need be

[mild lynx]

Yea just have a bunch of batts that you wont trade away as a buffer

[hoary crag]

plus there's no guarantee the next subpac would buy SC batteries right off the bat

[mild lynx]

Worst case you dijiang smuggle v4 batts into wuling

[cyan forge]

Hmm that's true

[cyan forge]

I did that

[hoary crag]

imagine

[shell hinge]

No. There is an offline bug that makes belts slightly slower

[hoary crag]

my subpac has my syringe lines and battery sandleaf loops

[cyan forge]

Bruh

[hoary crag]

everything else is in core

[cyan forge]

Bruh

[mild lynx]

Yea i ran out of facility limit on main so i also had to do yazhenA on outpost

[cyan forge]

Just have all in core smh

[hoary crag]

core and sub-pac

[cyan forge]

How many belts r u even using 💀

My sub is literally just an originium into thermal bank supplying machine

[mild lynx]

Its not a space issue lol they literally dont allow you to place more than 512 facilities

[cyan forge]

[cyan forge]

I meant bridges*

[mild lynx]

I used a lot of unloaders so that cut into my limit

[trail flint]

in the past 10mins my ores yields are stuck at much lower production for some reason, I havent touched the machines since finishing 1.1 and making eveything max capacity- what is happening?

[cyan forge]

Ah....

Fair enuf

[cyan forge]

U maxed out

[mild lynx]

But hey at least my thing is like completely segmented

Xircon is separate from cuprium and xiranite and sandleaf and orig block and battery, none of them link together

[hoary crag]

I spent the last week cleaning my sc battery line to use as less belt and pipe logistics as possible lol

[trail flint]

o right - so theoretical is ok? I see

[cyan forge]

Demn...

[hoary crag]

I even have like screenshots of how my sc battery line changed over time

[upper fiber]

need to see the product

[cyan forge]

Mush be nice looking neat

I used like all but 2 holes in the aic for free loading

Just to cut down on power

[mild lynx]

Feeding cupr batts to two thermals gives a lotta runway

[cyan forge]

Not worth for me

Am running at 3.43k power

[mild lynx]

Bro has a power modulator

💀

[hoary crag]

I mean

[cyan forge]

Which is just cupri bat+originium

Literally

[hoary crag]

extra stock bills are extra stock bills

[cyan forge]

There's no need for power modulator

[hoary crag]

I also have one which caps at 3.69K

[shell hinge]

It depends

[jovial breach]

are you making component

[mild lynx]

Im running at like 4.4k power since i also keep my essence turrets on grid

[cyan forge]

Yep, just the cupri

[jovial breach]

if ur making component you should have at least extra 200 power

[shell hinge]

You only benefit from saving batteries up to a point, because you can only sell so many batteries per minute

[cyan forge]

Just use valley bat for that

[jovial breach]

just use the ori for power

[cyan forge]

Indeed

[mild lynx]

Hmph but i gotta load em its a chore

[cyan forge]

Nah, no reason to

[mild lynx]

Mods pls

[jovial breach]

it's crazy that we dont have automod

[shell hinge]

Saving power is hence rarely useful so long as you have a reasonable thermal bank clocking setup

[dreamy jungle]

Bro either we're overseeing smth or your pipe is leaking, maybe file a bug report, cannot think of an explanation

[cyan forge]

@raw pollen

[jovial breach]

@low relic@raw pollen@wind roost uhm hello

[cyan forge]

@civic ingot

[dreamy jungle]

wtf

[mild lynx]

Phew, block button is gud

[jovial breach]

[cyan forge]

Nice

[mild lynx]

Yay its cleaned

[hoary crag]

lol

[jovial breach]

pls dont add slowmode

[cyan forge]

Anw back to the topic

[hoary crag]

https://tenor.com/view/punt-gif-7771689

anyway yeah back to topic

[mild lynx]

Btw how long does a full loaded turret last with a batt supply?

[hoary crag]

so where were we?

[jovial breach]

forever

[cyan forge]

Forever unless there's an enemy in the turret place

And u unloaded the chunk

[mild lynx]

...well yea these are essence turrets they gotta be zapping

[hoary crag]

quite long tbh, I have mine filled with 25 SC wuling batteries, already done like several runs and they're still like at 24/25 left

[cyan forge]

Essence turret only activate when u do essence, so it's abt 1 valley battery per 2-3 run?

I think?

[mild lynx]

Ooh

[cyan forge]

I don't remember exactly how much

But chances r ur turret break b4 u run out of battery

[jovial breach]

i think someone calculated it takes several months or even 1 year depends on how often you farm alluvium

[cyan forge]

^

I've had my turret broken faster than the battery depletes

[jagged swallow]

I think my brain melt from the water pipe thing i think i did it wrong i a deal with it another time

90% done just water issue

[mild lynx]

Turrets break? I have kept them on grid forever and they fine

[hoary crag]

@cyan forge my sc wuling battery line over time lol, you can even see my attempts at reducing belt/pipe logistics

[cyan forge]

Well in my case, it wasn't aluvium

[hoary crag]

they have a durability meter regardless

[rocky niche]

they have durability and it lessens everytime enemy attacks it

[cyan forge]

I used em to farm for a food ingredients

[mild lynx]

Ahh

[cyan forge]

Which i no longer have to cos we have the new aluvium

[hoary crag]

although they very rarely take damage in essence farming spots

[cyan forge]

Long live hypergriph

[cyan forge]

Cos u r there, yep

[rocky niche]

do people use the gold turret or stick to purple

[mild lynx]

So the wuling essence slime thingy aoe floor sweep also damages my turrets?

[cyan forge]

They lock into the player instead of the turret if u r close enuf

[hoary crag]

there was one time I did an essence run in power plateau

[cyan forge]

Gold does most dmg with proper setup

Otherwise just run purple sentry

[hoary crag]

I checked turrets and one of the ifrit turrets suddenly got this chunk off its hp lol

everything else was fine

[mild lynx]

Purple zapzap is least stress even if it takes a bit longer

[rocky niche]

gold in frontliners, then purple in back?

[cyan forge]

Yeah it works

Gold turret works so well w gilberta ngl

I love it

[hoary crag]

I run this setup in wuling, although the current setup now has sentries further back

[cyan forge]

Gold turret better now

[cyan forge]

Too much fragger, i guess u don't have gil?

[mild lynx]

You can afk this?

[hoary crag]

yup

[mild lynx]

Whoa

[cyan forge]

Gil cut down the time u need to wait by half or more

Oh ig if it's afk, that's good

[hoary crag]

I have, just not built that much

got her from the dossier anyway

[cyan forge]

U just need her for her bs

The damage don't matter

[jovial breach]

[cyan forge]

The turret will deal w it

[mild lynx]

Wow

[cyan forge]

Just keep em roasted in 1 place

[pulsar cypress]

[cyan forge]

Repairing looks like a pain

[mild lynx]

R spam

Probably faster than the biweekly rare mats collection runs

[cyan forge]

I don't even collect these days

[rocky niche]

is new alluvium useful to old units or just new units

[cyan forge]

Too lazy

[cyan forge]

It's good food

My most beloved heal item come from that place

[subtle finch]

reminds me of og ak, ganging up enemies on the red box lol

[hoary crag]

I may love my modular production lines, but this is still my fav part of my factory lol

[mild lynx]

I zipped all of them i just run to make it feel like the effort of that setup was worth it

[vast iron]

Holy convergers

[cyan forge]

U can make wuling stir fry from bamboo sprouts

It's imo the best heal item in the game rn if u just want the most amount of healing

[subtle finch]

this is my fav part of mine

[vast iron]

The new food is the best no?

[cyan forge]

Cheap to make too

[vast iron]

The one with the grovenymph things

Whatever it was called

[cyan forge]

It doesn't heal the most, but it is more consistent

The heal overtime always potentially heal more

[jovial breach]

time to upgrade your ziplines

[cyan forge]

It's just a matter of will u trigger it once or twice when it happen

[vast iron]

Heal over time sounds good in concept unless you get comboed

[cyan forge]

Yeah that's the issue

But regardless it is the best heal item for any cryo team

[vast iron]

I just stick to my fluffed jincao lol

[cyan forge]

U 100% will always go back to full if it procs

[mild lynx]

Woww its so clean

[iron spoke]

dont the foods have a quick burst heal at the start anyways?

thats hp% based

[cyan forge]

Which means xaihi's amp not going to waste

That's why it's my fav heal

[vast iron]

Well some of them are immediate some are over 6s

[cyan forge]

^

The new food don't even heal lr to full

It's only til like...

85%?

90%?

[vast iron]

Even the % ones the % is spread out
Like 5%/s

[hoary crag]

I just stick with fluffed jincao powder

easy to make, and gets the job done

[stoic lark]

i forgot 1 extra reactor crucible

[cyan forge]

If it proc at below 60% and u got hit from 70% to 50% and u heal for 5% + 300 or sth totaling 8%, u might retrigger the same heal (which don't stack) and waste a use.

[cyan forge]

Fluf is only good on main op

[vast iron]

You cant process the same recipe twice in 1 crucible

[cyan forge]

I use jincao infusion on lr

[vast iron]

Sadly

[stoic lark]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

[vast iron]

Isnt that just fluffed but buffed

Lol

[cyan forge]

Yeh, the gold fluf powder basically

Fluf jincao doesn't guarantee healing lr to full

It heals me to abt 96%

Typically

[vast iron]

The good thing with higher tier recipes is that use amt is 4

[cyan forge]

Uh jincao infusion is 3

Same as fluf

[vast iron]

Im pretty sure theres a new one

1600+20%

4 uses

[cyan forge]

The 4 uses food r mostly ones that can be used by everyone

[iron spoke]

question: how does a slowed hcv production line safety net wuling factory? like does it prevent failure if you forget to sell your syringes for too long from lack of logging in?

[cyan forge]

Not main op limited

[cyan forge]

I know, it's dif from fluf jincao tho

It's better and worse at the same time depending on use

[vast iron]

Fluffed has support main OP too tho?

[cyan forge]

Fluf always heal holder only with 1 use possible for main op

If u slap fluf on ur main op, u have 3 uses all only usable by main op

Always

[vast iron]

The one i was talking about is also burst heal

[jovial breach]

it doesnt have anything to do with yazhen A production

[vast iron]

Not over time

[cyan forge]

The other healing items u might get stolen by ur support if they take too much dmg

[subtle finch]

what is that

[cyan forge]

I know, am only giving the distinction in usage

[vast iron]

No cuprium no sewage

[vast iron]

I dont really get what you mean by that?

Wym stolen

[dreamy jungle]

pipe mosaic

[iron spoke]

right but it has enough power for the factory? isn't its output way too low to sustain a wuling factory?

[vast iron]

Funny peace symbol

[vast iron]

Its too low.

You dont have enough ferium to sustain enough

[stoic lark]

you should've seen my older builds

[cyan forge]

There r 2 type of healing item (source: me)

1. Heal overtime
   Desc: usable by all member in team, 3-4 usages.

2. Heal burst
   This category is further split into 2:

• usable by all team member (example: garden fried rice)
• usable only by holder (example: fluf jincao powder, buck A, Jincao tea) -> exception of 1 usage to main op (chances)

[vast iron]

I did not know theres a usable by everyone category

Ill check

[mild lynx]

Garden fried rice is my carry

[cyan forge]

Most heal consumables r like that

[mild lynx]

Is just nice

[cyan forge]

Held Item
Best heal:

Main operator: Jincao Infusion (20%+1648 hp. 60% hp activation, 3 uses)
Support:

• Garden Stir-fry (5%+270 hp for 6s. 60% hp activation, 4 uses)
• Garden Fried Rice (20%+1311 hp. 40% hp activation, 4 uses)

Budget heal:

Main operator: Fluf Jincao Powder (20%+1278 hp. 60% hp activation, 3 uses)
Support: Thorny Yazhen Powder (5%+274 hp. 50% hp activation, 3 uses)
Best offense:

• Stew Meeting (20% ult charge. <50% ult activation, 4 uses)
• Mini Honey Slugpudding (8% ult charge all operator. <50% ult activation, 4 uses)

Prefight Item

• Damage: Ginseng Stew > Jakub's legacy
• Support: Perplexing med (24% ult gain)

I kept forgetting to update this

But this is basically a recap of best 1.0 heal items

Well more like held items

And food in general

[iron spoke]

ah okay thanks, I guess its safer to make 1 lc and 1 sc if casual and misses logging in sometimes

[jovial breach]

the idea is to use 30/min ferrium to make hc battery, with metatransfer ori cubes

[iron spoke]

ah I see so its more about consuming less wuling battery and less about emergency power.

[mild lynx]

Oh wut you can make two xircon in one reactor? I gotta reconfigure my setup

[vast iron]

I dont think u can lol

They will realize soon

[mild lynx]

Oh

[stoic lark]

yeah u can't

[cyan forge]

[shell bloom]

Bro atleast it's organized mine is worse 😭🙏

[jovial breach]

the dream didnt last long

[vast iron]

I learned smt new nice

Thank u

[cyan forge]

Urwelcome

[stoic lark]

was wondering why it was clogging up so bad and realized the 4 xircon juice reactors didn't seem to be moving at all

[mild lynx]

Also does two xira fluid really work in one reactor

[vast iron]

Also the new food is 1480+20% x4 (unlimited support uses)

[mild lynx]

I always had to passthru to two reactors for xira fluid

[vast iron]

Made from the elite drops in new area

[cyan forge]

I know, it still heals less than stir fry tho

[vast iron]

Heal over time abuser grr

[cyan forge]

20%+1.48k is prolly enuf to bring u from 40% to abt... 80 to 85% on most chara i think

[stoic lark]

the xira reactor one seemed to work fine for some reason but idk maybe it's just because of the insane clog

[jovial breach]

possible but not practical to achieve it

[cyan forge]

Maybe more if ur chara have good will stat

[mild lynx]

Ah yea so i'll stick with what i was doing

Xiranite, Xiranite -> Reactor 1 -> Reactor 2

Passthru aboose

[vast iron]

Wym possible...

[vast iron]

Yass

[jovial breach]

you slow down the ferrium line

so the items have slot to get out

[vast iron]

That doesnt affect xiranite liquid

Its only a xircon/effulent hybrid

[jovial breach]

oh xiranite liquid

[vast iron]

Thats different

[jovial breach]

nvm then

[vast iron]

Yeah and xircon alternation is really inconsistent

I would not recommend

Might be a way to make it consistent tho

hmm

[mild lynx]

You could technically feed the xira fluid from Reactor A into the xira Reactor B so B will pipe out two xira fluids, i prefer just belting the xiranite itself thru

[vast iron]

Nah im thinking of smt else

[abstract urchin]

does anyone have afk essence farm setup

[subtle finch]

15 sentry, and bring lots of meds

[ornate sorrel]

screwed up my attempt on getting my hands on one of those widlyl placed zipline from randos again

THEY REALLY SHOULD LET YOU DISMANTLE FROM LONG DISTANCE

WHY IS THIS GAME IN THE STONE AGES

[stoic lark]

dw apparently they'll let you dismantle from map later on or something

[real crescent]

Already do

But only for shared facilities

Not your own

[stoic lark]

man i hope they let us dump the fluids in pipes later on

[cyan forge]

Just slap water treatment

[stoic lark]

gotta play whackamole with them hiding in each converger/splitter/bridge/etc when i end up sending the wrong fluid through

[cyan forge]

[subtle finch]

i just copy paste and replace the entire thing

[stoic lark]

for some reason that one time the water treatment just refused to treat it too

[viscid plover]

[ornate sorrel]

SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT DOESNT WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[stoic lark]

they can't be serious...

[real crescent]

The kite ziplines especially can be tricky to share. Assuming you are EU/NA, which kite was that? I might be able to help if thats one of the kites i have and my zip isnt in the spot of the relay

[real crescent]

Yes. Two per sprinkler is all you get

[stoic lark]

would be possible if we didn't have the 3 unit gap

does it matter how much area the water hits?

[subtle finch]

no

[stoic lark]

thx

[tough scarab]

I suggest you don't put the sprinkler right in the middle, it blocks your team when they move around the plots

had to move around all my sprinklers to fix it

[stoic lark]

oh thx

btw wdym by right in the middle

is this good?

[subtle finch]

should be fine

[tough scarab]

that's how I set up my farm

[subtle finch]

the perfect layout to avoid teammates from getting stuck is a square ring, but it's huge and ugly

[stoic lark]

thx

man if only they add an overflow gate

or whatever you call it

so that fluids/produce only passes through it when the belt before it is clogged

[subtle finch]

you can make one that acts close to that with splitters and convergers, but one tile ver. would be nice

[tough scarab]

there's a design for belts (though it's kinda large), not sure if there is one for pipes

[subtle finch]

something like this, priority flow, usually use for excess sewage

[tough scarab]

it doesn't prioritize one pipe perfectly though which causes issues that I don't want to deal with

[subtle finch]

prio flow, have low chance it will pass through before the main destination
while overflow gate, there's zero chance until destination is full

[stoic lark]

oh thx

[tough scarab]

depending on the placement order of 2 belts coming out from the same unit, you can get an actual overflow gate

requires that one belt has a converger/splitter on it though

the game seems to prioritize belts with fewest convergers/splitters when exiting a machine

I use this design to prioritize making bottles, it won't make any parts at all until the bottle stash is full
the other parts input comes from metastorage so it's not consistent

[narrow garden]

[winged oriole]

**Pylons not included

[ionic scroll]

I thought I made a good blueprint but then I tested and realized that convergers have priority to exiting items and thus the sandleaf doesn't return to the seed picker...

[real blaze]

imo aic factory gameplay is too easy

imagine if there is a distillation unit for various chemical reaction unit recipes

[tough scarab]

did a quick test, looks like pipes don't work the same way as belts do with prioritizing outputs
both sides have total items < belt/pipe capacity, more items (excess) means it uses both outputs

pipes still split evenly though even with more convergers on the pipeline

[ionic scroll]

We improvise though

[real blaze]

arent you going to run out of seeds? because only one planter is supposed to output a plant while the other only loops in to the seed picking unit to keep the farm sustainable

[ionic scroll]

Each seed picker is connected to two planters

[tough scarab]

you could delete these belts and it would work the same

[glacial slate]

if ur trying to make priority flow for anti sewage clogging in scw battery setup theres already a way
a real priority flow not that split stacking without any priority ppl r talking abt

[ionic scroll]

Oh yea both methods work

[leaden drift]

Which?

[tough scarab]

I've seen a design that overloaded the pipes to clog the inputs but I didn't like it because it wasn't truly priority flow

[subtle finch]

i think it doesnt work because output are individually set, and are not shared, that's why i deleted my comment earlier

[subtle finch]

for some use case, it's good enough, since fluid can flow faster than units can consume them, as long as destination can be saturated

[leaden drift]

https://youtu.be/Qg9WmiDTIT8?si=ZCLo5ILWOK1ZSCtV

I made a video for it

Really simple

[dark furnace]

my sincere thanks

[glacial slate]

not sure how that would work but ill just say that
u gotta understand that true priority flow is impossible unless the devs add an actual pipe that has that feature
otherwise we can only do so much as to come up with techniques that replicate similar if not the same result

and there is a method that does the exact same thing in this case

[real blaze]

factorio circuits might be one inspiration

[glacial slate]

never played that

[leaden drift]

I used splitters to make a higher percentage go one way but if they get clogged they all go to treatment

[glacial slate]

thats what 'everyone' do

[leaden drift]

Im using only 4 treatment

[glacial slate]

and they call it a 'priority flow'

when its just split stacking

[leaden drift]

For pipes its the only way

But for belts I use priority flow with convergers

[glacial slate]

u would be surprised https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1485913412151279637

[leaden drift]

If blue stash isnt full the belts will never get xiranite

[glacial slate]

priority flow is much easier with item belts for sure

all u gotta do is just add more 'facility' count to the lower priority lane

for fluids u gotta rely on how they travel

but yea i dont wanna yap about the whole thing here

[leaden drift]

I mean it is an actual thing but for water I agree there is no similar "priority" Path however if a majority is sent one way it can be argued that that direction is given priority.

[glacial slate]

fluids actually dont move
they have some sort of pathfinding that is being calculated

then they get teleported with a delay

[glacial slate]

can you really say that when theres a way to make it only go 1 side tho

[subtle finch]

from an engineering pov, if it did its purpose, it's good enough

[glacial slate]

because thats what an actual priority flow would mean

but yea there is technically 'priority' by split stacking if u wanna call it that

[real blaze]

sounds similar to GTNH or gregtech fluid pipes if you played gregtech before

a packet of fluid calculates where to go to the next pipe based on "flow"

except each packet is a second of fluid

[subtle finch]

gregtech is so niche, lol

[glacial slate]

didnt play that but it might work differently here because pipes arent like belts at all
they are just 1 long water tank (which is why they have capacity and placement length before u gotta use a 'facility) whereas belts are like belt containers combined in a chain so items actually move and collide
liquids dont collide until they stop moving and are 'stored'

[lost belfry]

Is there a way to remedy the fact that everytime I implement the endgame valley IV blueprints shared here and on other sides I jump back to 200 energy? Can´t even power them up separately because the power banks and sc batteries stop working when I go get the rest of the factory online

[leaden drift]

In liquid settings priority flow is based on a path getting a majority. Priority control valves set which pipe would get more. So technically calling it flow priority wouldnt be wrong.

[real blaze]

I would say belts and pipes are not so different, as each "area" of the belt is just a tile, checking if the item is stored in that tile and checks if it can go to the next tile. the "area" of a pipe is just the entire pipe segment, and the game checks if there is space in the pipe and checks if it can got to the next pipe/unit

[leaden drift]

Go to a sub pac and set up batteries there while working at a different location

[sick basin]

Uh, idk if im not 100% understand you
But cant u just put down several thermal banks anywhere and put batteries in

[subtle finch]

semantics, semantics , if it works, it works
most know what you mean when you say fluid priority flow

[glacial slate]

theres a way to have automatic backup battery setup for blackouts
but its not really something u can fully rely on to forget about power management since it has a delay
so ur going to need to fix the power issue manually in the end anyways and it takes space too
otherwise ur still gonna go into a blackout again and again

and yes u have to fix a blackout manually by having some batteries for temporary thermal banks in the first place

[real blaze]

My xircon setup which uses "priority flow" in case xircon fills, while cuprum keeps running

[glacial slate]

that is true until you realise that liquid can 'mix' and is being calculated before it 'moves'

[leaden drift]

If they are working in one area simply having the batteries be at another location solves it.

[glacial slate]

so something like a splitter can split evenly multiple liquid types at the same time

[subtle finch]

at the length approaches infinity, it approaches true priority

[glacial slate]

whereas item splitters can only split one item type at a time

[leaden drift]

I cut down my system a bit because I rerouted the sewage from batteries

So my inlet pipe is facing 90 sewage per min

[glacial slate]

yea thats what id do too although ud usually have enough space for some temporary bank in the current area anyway

and pretty sure u can place them outside of the aic area anyway

[leaden drift]

That puts you on a timer

A long timer but some people take a while

[glacial slate]

thats the point its temporary
and is meant for ur already existing battery setup to start working

or just use a dige

if u do blackout itll eventually start again

just that u gotta adjust the timing again to avoid the blackout

[leaden drift]

Thats expecting everyone is already at that level of knowledge factory building wise

[glacial slate]

they can learn but theres always a way for beginners which is to just manually stuff it in some random banks temporarily

doesnt require that much thinking to do that imo

[golden sapphire]

i'll be honest if you really worry that much just get an unpowered stash and fill it with batteries

[south ferry]

To the experts who have made maxed out base for wuling
Will I be able to fit in the 12/min battery along with 240/min dense originuim in here or will it spill out?

[golden sapphire]

that is an incredibly dense factory

[real blaze]

You may need to upgrade your factory space

[golden sapphire]

nah that's full i think

[south ferry]

Its already maxed 80×80

[keen river]

you can move some stuff to outpost..

no need to cram everything in main

[south ferry]

Nope
Tryna do it in 80×50

[leaden drift]

60 batteries a minute?

Hell nah

[south ferry]

12*

[leaden drift]

[glacial slate]

damn i thought i was high and read wrongly

[leaden drift]

It looks possible?

[south ferry]

Calculating 120/min water per pipe and shit is messing with my head
my bad

[subtle finch]

on the lower end, you'll need 48 long bus to make 12/min battery.

[glacial slate]

well it depends on how big ur '60/min' battery and 240/min dense originuim is

or u can just make everything else smaller

[golden sapphire]

i honestly spammed water pumps

very inefficient

to be fair it doesn't matter anyways

it's pumping at full

[upbeat blade]

should be, i shoved purp med, 9/min sc battery, a 3,5/min lc battery and 2 /min v4 purp battery in wooling aic

[leaden drift]

How big is the empty space

Like dimensions

[south ferry]

27×29 I think

[glacial slate]

i used 9 tho + port

one side as well

mb that was including comp too

[south ferry]

Man making a quadrilateral is hard

[leaden drift]

I dont think its possible now

Welll mayyyybbe

[glacial slate]

thats not even enough to fit the smallest scw battery setup

unless its not the whole setup

33x25 is the smallest u can go from what ik

[severe nexus]

They just need ori dust and packagers

[south ferry]

I probably cant even fit the depots there now that I realised

And I need sand leaf as well

Well I guess cramming everything in there was not possible at all

[severe nexus]

I think it is doable

If you use the other bus hub and have access on the other side as well

[south ferry]

Even with that i barly get depot space

[severe nexus]

Actually that might not even be necessary

[golden sapphire]

i'll probably refit my factory today

[south ferry]

I was doing that 10 or so hours ago
Still not completed

[golden sapphire]

strictly horizontal layouts are very hard

i will say that

[south ferry]

I was aiming for a square
Turned in this

[golden sapphire]

most my factory layouts are crosses

[leaden drift]

This is the old one I had for lc. I think this one was 14 x 24 @south ferry I dont think its possible

[golden sapphire]

crosses from what I see are the best for what i build

[subtle finch]

my peak layout

[golden sapphire]

i'm not home so i can't take pic

[south ferry]

Man I love symmetrical builds
Except I just cant do it

[dreamy jungle]

Did the 3 split work btw?

[golden sapphire]

i love doing symmetrical builds

[subtle finch]

so far yes

[golden sapphire]

man i love discord

[dreamy jungle]

[golden sapphire]

taking 199 years to load an image

[subtle finch]

like this right?

[golden sapphire]

imma just cancel it

[dreamy jungle]

Yes exactly

[upbeat blade]

vaguely swastika

[dreamy jungle]

Well ig just use the splitting that works

[golden sapphire]

i'm not even doing anything for valley IV

matter of fact i have literally 0 infrastructure in valley

[keen river]

man this boss was brutal af

[leaden drift]

Just make sandleaf powder

[golden sapphire]

no reason

[leaden drift]

For delieveries

Im buying out tcreds

And other stuff

[golden sapphire]

i would but

my AICS are currently occupied with thermal banks

[severe nexus]

You have something off screen or is the entire vertical strip available?

[keen river]

Peak zero sanity

[iron spoke]

can we get the food mats from energy alluviums without spending sanity?

[keen river]

Yeah

Note that there are diminishing returns after like 7 restarts

[south ferry]

The entire image was the limit to how much space i could use

[subtle finch]

that's what i heard with essence drops, im guessing it resets daily server time?

[keen river]

not sure tbh

i think it might reset after few hours maybe?

but you eventually dont get drops when you just keep reseting those alluviums

[glacial slate]

u still get purple essence rarely

food mat drops idts

[keen river]

not sure how the limit apply, and per what tbh

but at very least, when farming the haze balistas near the powerplant

they stop dropping after you pick like 6-7

[south ferry]

You know what
If i were to skip the sandleaf
I may be able to fit it in

[keen river]

i need to artifice LYNX set one day, but doing it just for a day of umbral monument every month seem like such a waste

you probably could compress the factory on the right a bit more

you have a lot of wasted space there

[south ferry]

I am tired
The best way I can do that is to make this into 80×60

Anymore compression and i am exploding

[severe nexus]

In that case I don't think it is possible

[verbal lintel]

what could be the motive of this

[south ferry]

Boredom

[uneven aspen]

dont think it can fit it

[glacial slate]

why not 33x25

[uneven aspen]

because it's 4 sandleaf powder is awkward

[glacial slate]

how so

[uneven aspen]

probably can do 2 33x25 sharing the the extra sandleaf powder maker.

[glacial slate]

theres working 33x25 setups without any external sandleaf powder

[uneven aspen]

? 1 shredder makes 3 powder

there's 4 grinding units wanting

[glacial slate]

2 shredders

[uneven aspen]

so there's 2 sandleaf farms

[glacial slate]

u just use 3 planters and 2 seeds

1.5 farm

[uneven aspen]

how does 3 planters work?

i assume 4 is needed for sustain

[glacial slate]

u only need 4 powder and 1 farm is already 3 sandleaf
so u technically just need 1.33 farm for 4 powders

[lost belfry]

where do I place the unloader and loader each?

[uneven aspen]

yeah but the sustain . . .

[glacial slate]

yea its more than enough

[dreamy jungle]

check this #1485643224935698555 message

[uneven aspen]

how so? The seeder produces 2 seeds, so it needs another planter to sustain itself and the 2nd planter to shred

[uneven aspen]

interesting

[glacial slate]

u can split it into 2 parts since 2 shredders
with 1 side being 2 planters 1 seed for 3 powder
and 1 side being 1 planter 1 seed for 1.5 powder

[uneven aspen]

so the approach is that the 2nd sandleaf powder maker will clog

so the 1 seeder+planter will then refill itself

[dreamy jungle]

no 50% is already enough for 1.5 powder

[glacial slate]

it doesnt need to but thats the lazy way for it to work
u can actually make it prioritize the planting loop first with priority flow

but yea u dont need to
since itll clog anyway

unless u dont have enough sandleaf at the start for it to clog

[uneven aspen]

looks good for a 100% setup

i doubt it can fit 33x25 while controlling xiranite usage maybe sewage usage idk

[dreamy jungle]

yeah i control sewage that goes through conduit

[glacial slate]

u can control sewage for sure yea

[dark furnace]

if you don't want to optimize at the planters, just depot all flower before grinding them into powder and let them clog at the shredder somewhere else

[glacial slate]

what r u trying to achieve with ur xiranite control tho

[glacial slate]

tradeoff is that the whole factory will be fatter than usual
since more unloaders needed

but yea it works

space vs convenience pretty much

although it sure is also pretty convenient to just steal a bp

[uneven aspen]

simple math between everything like gearing

[glacial slate]

0.5 the rate?

[uneven aspen]

yup

wait 1/min each

it's 2 components/min 1 xiranite 1 cuprium

[glacial slate]

then u can do sewage control for sure

just gotta split between the treatment and conduit

accordingly

[uneven aspen]

too lazy i've been doing the opposite

giving them excess sewage

probably not gonna change anything until the next update

[iron spoke]

what does that look like with the pipe splitter/converge icons?

[uneven aspen]

it's just this

instead it goes 2nd crucible then treatment

so the 2nd crucible topmost pipe splitter is also just down

[iron spoke]

the 3 inputs are all from cuprium?

[narrow garden]

i think this is the most beautiful thing i've ever created

nvm im uninstalling.

its one tile too long to fit a third

send help

[modest berry]

So does anyone know why my facilities clog up seemingly randomly sometimes? Depot has ample space. Right balance of input/outputs.

[leaden drift]

where is the clog

usually there is a spot

[modest berry]

It's spotty

[leaden drift]

like what building usually clogs

[upbeat blade]

maybe ya got clogged after logging in?

[modest berry]

Almost everything. But not at once. Sometimes some sections it's the refining at the start of the line

[leaden drift]

isnt that usually a curcible clear tax

[modest berry]

Sometimes it's the shredding unit spitting out 3 sandleaf powder

[leaden drift]

something must be capped

some where

or near cap

[modest berry]

Wish there was a way to mass clear out every facility

[leaden drift]

have u cleared out any residual materials?

[modest berry]

I do try to keep on top of that, but it keeps happening

[leaden drift]

sometimes if ur near max it can clog but not actually clog

[modest berry]

Like why it keeps maxing out when on theory it should not

[leaden drift]

what is the final product

that this happens in

[modest berry]

Both my HC batteries and Buck Capsule A

Pretty much maxed out Valley IV lines

[leaden drift]

got an image

[modest berry]

Can in a bit hold on

[modest berry]

Sub pacs all the same template. Usually find the bottles the bottleneck (Pun not intended)

Tried to fit Main AIC into 2 images. Top left corner is another seed/planter spitting out sandleaf

I cleared out most of it earlier but wondering why it keeps happening

[leaden drift]

hmmm

so ur saying its usually the bottles?

would u say it happens in this area?

@modest berry

if its the right bottle maker it might have to do the fact with the bridge

right after the bottler

theres also apparently an offline issue with belt speed

[modest berry]

Bridges mess things up?

And yeah, I was also expecting it something to do with how wildly different my belt lengths are to fit everything

It seems it's almost always the ferrium lines

[leaden drift]

it might be dealing with either the birdges or the fat u dont have a gap spcae

to le an item breath foir a second

[modest berry]

Didn't think that would be a problem

Was considering to rework my entire thing anyway to see if I can fit everything into the core AIC

I assumed it just connected to the facility normally

[serene mist]

Is it worth to start building storage for next version?

[mild lynx]

Oh my god. This is my xircon line, it feeds on sewage from cuprium processing right above it on the other side of the bus.

The issue here is that when i'm offline, SOMEHOW, Xircon is generated on the upper right reactor in each line, bricking the entire thing

im passing thru ferrium powder into the bottom reactor via the intermediary reactors

i guess i cant do tht now, it has to be ran around

weird ass bug

this behavior doesnt happen when this exact setup was in the subpac

[tepid wigeon]

Are you sure it's not the sewage converger causing it to back up and clog?

[mild lynx]

thats a splitter

you see it flows down

[tepid wigeon]

Oh splitter

That's probably why then

Maybe not hmm

[mild lynx]

oh wait i somehow forgot to move my ferrium shredders when i tore down this setup from the subpac and moved it

but still the xircon thing still happens

weird

[tepid wigeon]

Flowing the ferrium through the xiranite effluent maker will cause it to get weird yeah

[lusty violet]

you're making xircon effluent, and you're passing in ferrium powder, so it's not too surprising

[mild lynx]

reactor doesnt let you just reach in and grab the solids inside

its kinda annoying

[tepid wigeon]

Yeah I hate that too

Place a copy somewhere, stash that, replace with the copy

You do lose the fluid that way though

Otherwise set the output to the Xircon to move it out

[mild lynx]

the one i just need to maintain is remembering which pipe i send inert effluent down

[tepid wigeon]

That screenshot has it for you

[mild lynx]

yea sometimes i still confuse it lol

outside they're both greeen

reeee

well, inert (left) is slightly thinner i guess

[tepid wigeon]

Nah the thinness just means the pipe isn't full

There is a slight color shade difference though

[mild lynx]

oh right

[tepid wigeon]

Right one is slightly lighter

Or I guess glowy?

[mild lynx]

seeing a color diff is like a monitor calibration test

[pulsar cypress]

They should just make clearly different color for easy setup..

[mild lynx]

this is my second xircon effluent processing that also gets the ferrium passthru but it doesnt make xircon, weird

[tepid wigeon]

Probably passed through on a bad tick or offline slowness made it pile up and it decided to make a xircon

[mild lynx]

man i am at the whims of the cpu clock magic

well the alternative is to design to not use passthrus, but...aesthetic

I got my whole line all properly isolated from each other

but this arrangement uses too many facilities and i hit the limit lol

*not pictured, rest of the xiranite forges and the ferrium powder lines

doing it like this does let me make it easier to fix clogs

[tepid wigeon]

Dang I've never hit facility limit

[mild lynx]

512 not enough lowlight give me 1024

server skill issue

[iron stratus]

i heard splitters prioritize pipes over buildings but is there a priority when both are buildings or both are pipes

[upper fiber]

why would your xircon eff full at 50, that's the cause

[shadow hound]

Wait... can you do that all in one reactor crucible? I thought...

I thought Xircron had to be processed in a separate one

[upper fiber]

it can but not double process so half efficient

[mild lynx]

if it was flowing properly, all that xircon eff would get piped out 😭

[upper fiber]

the flow won't get stuck even if you made xircon

[mild lynx]

thats true, you could still make ferrium passthru once its all set up

[upper fiber]

so the end reactor not receiving ferrium powder or what

[mild lynx]

but it should be on the effluent formula, not the xircon formula

it technically should never switch to xircon

[mild lynx]

when i traced it, the actual issue was that i ran out of ferrium cus i forgot to readd my ferrium shredders, i just thought its the xircon because yesterday, xircon somehow got into the belts

[upper fiber]

it will if that reactor already at max produce for xircon eff, nothing to do so it will react to any new one

[mild lynx]

yea its flowing properly now, i should probably add a fluid tank to siphon out the overcapping effluent

[upper fiber]

another smooth day, seems like it is no need to touch my factory anymore

[glacial slate]

until 1.2

[obtuse raven]

Man, I hope they add something like drone stations to make daily resource recollection less boring

[young igloo]

u collect daily?

[glacial slate]

daily what?

[obtuse raven]

This thingies

I could problably stop already with how many I have

[glacial slate]

oh i thought u meant these

[obtuse raven]

But it feel like a waste since they cap in one day

[quiet pasture]

Can you only have 1 bus port per area?

[obtuse raven]

Nah, those are quick

[warped delta]

We're not getting Lv4 Outpost when Rossi's banner goes live, are we?

[warped delta]

About 50x over... The only time you should be picking them up is if you happen to walk past doing something else like doing a parcel delivery. They're barely used.

[tepid wigeon]

You could stop 5.4k ago

[worthy sky]

If you are talking about the Square one, 2 for main AIC 1 for subs im think

[obtuse raven]

Yeah, I will probably just stop bothering going out of my way to collect them

[upper fiber]

the devs already said those are useless already

no need to collect them

[obtuse raven]

Oh, didn't know that

[upper fiber]

even the rare mats are too much already

[young igloo]

if this game going the same route as the og ak, we abadoning ts later

[obtuse raven]

Ok, thanks for the advise, I will definitely stop from collecting them from now on, will save me quite some time

[warped delta]

Something leftover from earlier design ideas and they left them in the game I guess?

[upper fiber]

more like people don't like dijiang

and flawed concept

[hoary crag]

not really imo, tho it's more or less something that gave more than it was supposed to

people were farming way too much more than what was needed because of the thought of future dijiang upgrades

lowlight did say that we're not getting dijiang upgrades anytime soon so there's not really a need to visit them everyday

but hey, if you end up being near one while traveling or doing depot jobs, then why not?

[warped delta]

And by farming, in reality it means "picking up anything more than you get sent to for parcel dropoff or happen to walk past" because we only use like what? 100 total?

[obtuse raven]

People like me

[hoary crag]

yup

[warped delta]

The entire thing seems way overdesigned, so I can't blame people for thinking we would use a lot more

[hoary crag]

people still visit them everyday for some reason

and as pw did say

if dijiang will follow the same system as og arknights' base

[warped delta]

They had 4 levels of upgrades and the recycling spread all over, but the purchase price was cheap and we barely used the mats

[tepid wigeon]

I pick them up if delivery takes me to it in Wuling but otherwise I sit

[hoary crag]

these will become obsolete in the future and be totally worthless

it might get a future purpose if we can decorate dijiang to some extent

but for now yeah, they're useless atm

[tepid wigeon]

There's still room to expand in dijiang just they haven't told us when

[hoary crag]

for me whatever is in between my rare mat routes, I include

[obtuse raven]

Well, they could make drones to recollect it and send it to machine to convert it to more advanced parts, I guess? But woudn't make much sense since we only get a limited amount of them daily

[hoary crag]

I mean they did say we'd be able to auto collect them in the future

but why though since we don't need them anymore in the meantime?

so it could only imply that dijiang will get an update when the recycling stations also get their auto-collect feature

wait no not auto

remote collection

[scenic swift]

they should just set a hard cap on how many you can hold so people will stop collecting them after being full

[hoary crag]

depot limit

I bet there's someone out there still collecting them for the sake of hitting depot limit

[scenic swift]

[hoary crag]

and we'd like get a 20s youtube short for it

[obtuse raven]

I am already 4k deep, 20 times this and I would reach depot limit in V4

[upper fiber]

wasted function really

and even if they make the remote collection, why would i bother to do that anyway

since it is not gonna be used in near time

[hoary crag]

that's why I have a feeling that they'll update dijiang the moment we get remote collection

otherwise it'd be entirely pointless for vets

[viscid plover]

future they will let us recycle space garbage into orundumb

[pulsar cypress]

Trading junk to oroberyl..
*dumb hope..

[obtuse raven]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[viscid plover]

they shouldn't make it a daily thing to begin with
design flaw

they train people who are completionist to just "do all daily reset stuff"

[upper fiber]

likely no dijiang lv6

[viscid plover]

not anytime soon

we probably looking at 5.0 for the base update

if trend is anything to go by

[upper fiber]

and we won't use those mats...

or just like using 100

[obtuse raven]

I can kind of understand why they want to keep Dijiang low cost, they don't want to scare beginners

[viscid plover]

which begs the question why they keep adding more owl garbage spot then

[obtuse raven]

They could solve that giving them a beginner package with mats anyways...

[young igloo]

maybe theres 4.0 story where we need dijiang to slam into rando places for the sake of the story

then your 5k of whatever that is have some use

[upper fiber]

esp on no depot node area...

[lapis crane]

hmmm

decoration

the cabin

hmmm

[viscid plover]

omg leak, mods ban this guy

[pulsar cypress]

Spending more time in game collecting garbage..

[young igloo]

id love to see some decoration coming thru tho

[lapis crane]

no leek
just speculation the same thing that happened to OGAK

[young igloo]

theres a leek right there wym no leek

[viscid plover]

yea seems like it, game time padding for those who can't resist to have every daily objective complete
if you don't want people to collect it daily don't make it a daily thing

[young igloo]

lol i even have zipline connecting the owl

whats the point

[viscid plover]

yea i have it too

[obtuse raven]

Yeah, I don't understand why they make rare mats like some sort of bank that store up 4 days of production but they made the recycle points only able to hold up 1 day of trash

[pulsar cypress]

"THE Saviour Endmin" revived to ended up wandering around doing small chores and collecting garbages..

-_-)
Me keep taking this note to survey coz its feels weird to play as Endmin..

[young igloo]

still doing the saviour stuff btw

[upper fiber]

while giving those OCD people a daily dose of OCD

[viscid plover]

yep

[young igloo]

wait do "daily" collect shroom rock etc too?

[viscid plover]

those are once every 3 days

[young igloo]

i collect them like once in 2 decades

[obtuse raven]

Man, the fact that they only clarified it in a stream or whatever instead of implying it in-game...

[young igloo]

fully build cryo with essential m12 btw

[pulsar cypress]

I mean.. Why not give a post somewhere, where we can assign npc to collect the garbage or other stuff..

Its more Endmin like to do..

[scenic swift]

they already encourage you to collect poops daily because of the daily limit of 1 poop per cow

most people have been missing their dailies

[young igloo]

arent they buffalos ?

[obtuse raven]

They are many QoL things they could change/add

[young igloo]

anyway i dont do farming too

[obtuse raven]

Yeah, me neither

[scenic swift]

I dont know they could be dinosaurs poop is still poop

[pulsar cypress]

Same.. Me just let every plant grow and leave them for aesthetic..

[obtuse raven]

For 1 crop per square I feel like I am being scammed

[iron stratus]

i keep mine completely full and just try not to look at the map whenever i have to collect a few of the nodes

[young igloo]

so my daily is basically 1 gear - gift - sanity - bills

[scenic swift]

1 crop can use 25% of the farm space

[viscid plover]

surely they have the stats and are listening to player feedback- || proceed to add more owl garbage spot in 1.1 ||

[young igloo]

they do?

[viscid plover]

yea

[young igloo]

didnt noticed

maybe i unlocked for regional lv then forgor

[young igloo]

likely the reason i dont do agriculture

[scenic swift]

the discord had hundred of feedback posts daily before they shut it down so no I guess they dont

[obtuse raven]

I think they need to rethink several aspects of this "daily" activities

Most of them feel they are not worth the time/effort

[pulsar cypress]

I mean, its ok to give more owl garbage..
But, why not just different garbage inside..

Like some give char exp, some give weapon exp, some give funds, some give char mats..

Like other game do..

[young igloo]

they really need a team to select discord feedback

[upper fiber]

they are doing 'this is our game, our way'

[obtuse raven]

I think they are just blindly trusting the surveys

[scenic swift]

did the surveys tell them to make umbral monument harder

[viscid plover]

they didnt give out survey for 1.1

[scenic swift]

dont let me find out who asked for that

[viscid plover]

i think they know what's up

cope

"im going to write a strongly worded dissapointment to show them how it is"

[obtuse raven]

I don't think many people take them seriously, and even less of them put effort into lining out the parts they don't like at the final part of the survey where they let you redact

[pulsar cypress]

Umbral is like a pain to do for me who have skill issues also..
Kinda half give up on doing it..
-_-)

[hoary crag]

hg let us decorate dijiang it would be so funny

[obtuse raven]

Man, I hope they improve these aspects... I really enjoy the factory gameplay

[scenic swift]

a 100 page report on how many resources we are losing from offline factory tax and how it is ruining all the nice straight lines

we must calculate the compensation based on loss per day from the start of version 1.0 to when they finally fix it

perlica give me 30 free pulls

[obtuse raven]

Tbh, looking at how they didn't bother to redesign the fluid version of some machines so that they actually have a pipe input...

[viscid plover]

as soon as they patch out the crucible issue i don't have anything to do in factory anymore other than collect and sell the only reason i was doing busy nothing for over a week was because of their bugs otherwise everything set up done in day 1

[scenic swift]

I want dijiang fire support, I want to air drop turrets on unsuspecting enemies, we have the power. its time to let us use it

[pseudo basin]

cant be shredded right?

[viscid plover]

nope can't

[velvet hemlock]

Cant shred fancy plants in factory

[pseudo basin]

i gotta mash the craft button like a caveman

[velvet hemlock]

Fr

[viscid plover]

need shredder 2.0 that cost 50 power

[outer basin]

Disgusting

[ruby sorrel]

artisanal hand shredded powder

[velvet hemlock]

Need farm 2.0 too

I have no idea what im doing

[ruby sorrel]

whatever it is it's beautiful

[obtuse raven]

It is short, yeah, like maybe in one day, 2-4 hours in you could finish your factory to produce the last batch of new items (given they are not bugs, ejem ejem).

But the dopamine it gives you after finishing is good

[viscid plover]

they let us paint our factory in the future surely

[velvet hemlock]

aaaaaaa

[hoary crag]

this somehow feels soothing to look at and idk why

[obtuse raven]

Surely we are getting the turrets of the tutorial, we blasting them with full blown naval canons in their faces

[hoary crag]

one jincao loop can feed two grinding units

[velvet hemlock]

Yes

No wait

[hoary crag]

1 jincao/yahzen -> 1 refinery -> 2 shredding -> 2 grinding

[velvet hemlock]

2 refineries

Im stoopid

[hoary crag]

just one refinery

the refinery will convert wuling plants into two carbon

[velvet hemlock]

Yeah I forgot about that

[viscid plover]

[velvet hemlock]

Well, I dont want to mess with this spaghetti anymore

[hoary crag]

lmao

good luck with that ig

[pulsar cypress]

Mess = real factory..

XD

[velvet hemlock]

I remembered 1 carbon makes 2 powder but not that 1 wuling plant makes 2 carbon

[hoary crag]

well that is also true

[velvet hemlock]

Also those product icons are not on top of their machines and that annoys me

[viscid plover]

you can always remove the machine and the product icon will be gone

[velvet hemlock]

XD

Well whatever, i made my own sc wuling battery and cuprium comonent factory

It looks very painful

[hoary crag]

show

[velvet hemlock]

#aic-factory message

[hoary crag]

oh yeah right 😭

I have the memory of a goldfish allow it

[velvet hemlock]

XD

Me too

Sometimes

so I have one excess carbon producer

And fixing that would take too much work

And also a bunch of useless belts under pipes which I dont want to bother with

[viscid plover]

V4 money is as good as monopoly money

[pulsar cypress]

Soo many low value goods..

[crude nebula]

They need to add money changer, maybe something like 1k : 1 ratio between v4 and wuling

[hoary crag]

time to doomscroll ig

[loud river]

that's pretty nice actually but they really just need to add more stuff. Like that perfect essence device is only a one time thing. There isn't any reason why it shouldn't reset weekly, one would get many perfect essences before they're able to even level it

[solid linden]

1k:1? so getting a mil of wuling shit requires you to trade 1 bil of v4 shit

[crude nebula]

I mean thats the ratio i think pretty balance, so the money changing not getting used too often by player and also they dont ignored the whole wuling development

[viscid plover]

E4 for dijang skill

[iron stratus]

yeah a max of 30k wuling bills per like week from v4 is not gonna cut it

maybe 7:1 is fair

[somber briar]

They better add weekly reset for standard pulls, it could cost like 50mil v4 or 100mil for each pulls

[tough ledge]

...huh?

Why is this thing running at half speed?

wait nvm i found why

i cut half of the originium block production because i was overpowered

[bold linden]

if im in valley will my AIC still work in wuling?

[vale topaz]

right now, yes.
but once we get new region, will need to be careful since only 2 region will work during offline.
as explained at in game note

[dark furnace]

wait what

i mean it's reasonably for day1 players as we already got everything in valley

but rip new players

[young stag]

should i buy more permits? i only can afford 35

[dark furnace]

if you already bought everything else, sure

[young igloo]

yea go for it tho u dont need that much anyway

still theres nothing to purchase rn

[young igloo]

be online 24/7 is the key

[hoary crag]

I mean pretty sure once you get to the third region even as a new player, you would've earned and made enough at valley atp to basically be able to fully move on from valley

[young stag]

i burn through these cuz i need to build my elec team

for um 3-3

[vale topaz]

yea, they will have hard time deciding which region to run during offline.
and no, afk is a no go, this game has auto logout for afk-ing.
who knows maybe they'll have catch up mechanic to help with this limited offline calculation.
or maybe with more good price on material trade at bunny store

[glacial slate]

u can afk if ur in top down view

doesnt seem to kick at all

at least for a few hours

but dont quote me on that

[nova osprey]

afk doesn't work, not because it auto logs you out, but afking in general does nothing to bypass the system

if you're afking in a region it's the same as going offline, there's no difference

[supple sierra]

What is the max rd level we can get in wuling?

[nova osprey]

whatever it shows in game

[dark furnace]

9 iirc

[pulsar cypress]

9 rn..

[supple sierra]

So upgrading my outpost alone must give me 1515 rdm?

[nova osprey]

2k

[dark furnace]

what makes it 1515 to you

where this number comes from

[nova osprey]

1515 left to level 9 im guessing

level 8 with 1515 left to go

[dark furnace]

well you get extra exp after 9

[nova osprey]

it's just 2k

[dark furnace]

screenshot your log to see what you got now

but I think as you said you are only missing the outpost lv3 upgrade

[dark furnace]

yea you are only missing outpost

[supple sierra]

Oh ok thank u

[dark furnace]

should be 4450 when maxed

oh wait you are missing 20 for mining

check if you missed a node

[pulsar cypress]

New additional mining node appear at current one..

With lvl up..

[dark furnace]

it does? alright

I was just comparing that screenshot to mine

[supple sierra]

Really?

[pulsar cypress]

Yeaa.. Check ur originium node..
There's new node at old spot..

[supple sierra]

Yep found it

[dark furnace]

oh you mean that

[young igloo]

whats your current yeild, that helps more

[bright merlin]

Any uh recommendations on building stuff in wuling?

[young igloo]

12 sc bat and 6 yazhen A

thats good enough

[bright merlin]

Oh

[young igloo]

wait u new to wuling?

[bright merlin]

That was. Quite simple

[young igloo]

lemme check

[wispy grove]

Not simple as it seems

[bright merlin]

Kinda, just finished everything in wuling aside from a few optional side quests but I barely worked on the factory bit only to make 10 xinerite

[young igloo]

yeah then go for the xiranite battery

and yazhen c

[vale topaz]

well can start with focusing on getting 4 xiranite output, and then making xiranite component , battery , syringe.

[young igloo]

also try unlock whatever tree allow 4 xiranite forge

actually unlock allat tree

[bright merlin]

I have all research maxed out in wuling

[young igloo]

outpost dont buy sc and yazhen A pre lv3

make some progress with the xiranite battery first

[bright merlin]

Alright

[subtle finch]

it's crazy how this became my sleep tracker

[warped delta]

You need more sleep

[crude nebula]

You sleep

[pulsar cypress]

[primal wyvern]

[leaden drift]

[upper fiber]

dead for 19days

[bright zodiac]

how many thermal bank can a single 30/m originium output supply?

is it "4" or almost 4, or more than 4? lmao

[upper fiber]

exactly 4

[bright zodiac]

well thats what i thought, but my math is saying 3.75

[upper fiber]

did you math the belt issue and server desync?