aic-factory

[wet pagoda]

spray acid on enemeis

[grizzled osprey]

I tried spraying water but it only annoys them

[crisp idol]

industrial explosives part 2

[keen siren]

Bridges CAN be inputs though.

[grizzled osprey]

What if we spray acid on dehydrated originium slugs

[wet pagoda]

making em wet 🤔

[floral vector]

xiranite nuclear reactors that takes a mixture of xiranite and some acid as fuel

[wet pagoda]

and water as coolant

and ouput steam

[floral vector]

and have a turbine

generate the power

[grizzled osprey]

Wait

We need an acid pit

To dispose of items

[wet pagoda]

yeah "items"

[floral vector]

just have a trash can

[tawny ledge]

we need a seggs update

[grizzled osprey]

Portable acid pit so you don't see those items you once disposed still in the same place after a year

somehow our cleanup crew handles lb bodies but not discarded bottles

[floral vector]

Really? right in front of my aic factory?

[grizzled osprey]

No, in yvonne's lab

[wet pagoda]

he want to sell other type of products

[analog elbow]

I just finished my 12h shift and this mf are still here wtf

IT'S BEEN ALMOST 2 DAYS.

[tawny ledge]

yes, it imrpoves machine morale

[wet pagoda]

welcoming home like a good wife

[grizzled osprey]

Just pick it up atp, not like you have max pylons in depot

[tawny ledge]

like the jbl they had on that factory

[crisp idol]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-pick-it-up-sword-fight-gif-27423366

[analog elbow]

IT WANTS REVENGE BECAUSE I DUMP IT FOR BEING USELESS

[grizzled osprey]

Yea that shit does not disappear 😭

[floral vector]

there needs to be a item void thing

[analog elbow]

mf wants blood like 😭😭

Leave me alone

[wet pagoda]

if a male furry wolf say it, must do it

[tawny ledge]

meanwhile the one depot of rare materials I chose to leave thinking it'd go to the lost and found mail was eaten by the void

[grizzled osprey]

@keen siren pfp sauce?

[hollow drum]

i finally did it

idc if its split prod 😭

[keen siren]

It's Remilia Scarlet.

[tawny ledge]

do 1 hours instead of 10 mins

[dark maple]

The illegal screenshot

[wet pagoda]

peak

[hollow drum]

theres no 1hr que

[tawny ledge]

bottom right

[crisp idol]

using 9 hc batteries per minute is insane work, what do you have in your factory that eats so much power

[hollow drum]

inefficient arrangement

[keen siren]

I didn't know you could get to that one. I guess I have some parkour to do.

[hollow drum]

its actually just over 4.5k power

[dense wyvern]

It isn't that bad honestly.

[hollow drum]

theres 10m, 30m, 2hr?

[tawny ledge]

is the game making fun of you tf, there should be 1 and 7 days too, anyways send 2 hours

[hollow drum]

what lol

i never have seen a 1hr timer?

[tawny ledge]

oh did i say 1 hour mb

dummy moment

[hollow drum]

????

[dense wyvern]

[tawny ledge]

see that lower curve to the left? the aetherside likes your citromes and is thankful for them

don't turn the game off, it'll take more

[crisp idol]

4 banks at full usage is 4.6k power which equates to 6 HC/min, you can probably cut down on the excess in that case

[hollow drum]

i genuinely have no idea what youre pointing at or making a point of im ngl

[torn ginkgo]

Okay so, just done with the story, so.. Any BP u guys rec? (i barely touched the factory)

[tawny ledge]

offl;ine production lowers for some reason

[hollow drum]

yeah i had 5 batteries on cuz it was 4.8k, i genuinely dont know how it got there but its here now after a remodel

[tawny ledge]

you've got the game open for long otherwise it'd show 23 instead of 24/min citromes

[hollow drum]

yes i have had it open for 2 hours

is this some tinfoil hat moment that im not aware of

[tawny ledge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1470897373973840154

[crisp idol]

have you unlocked all the AIC tech points

[hollow drum]

1.unlock tech
2.produce things the outposts want
3. level them up
4. keep producing what they want (the expensive stuff)

just check #1461542035617091681 for what you need specifically to fulfill point 2

[torn ginkgo]

Yep

[torn ginkgo]

Alr thx

[misty grotto]

This sucks. Wish tickets weren't so rare even with a bis factory

[hollow drum]

how am i 60 over in my amethyst

im gonna mald

[analog elbow]

Just get lucky

[grizzled osprey]

these people are entering a vicious loop of never doing factory

[marble yarrow]

omg

[grizzled osprey]

If they keep copying bps they never gonna learn the joy of factory

[analog elbow]

[analog elbow]

Especially min maxing when you're in Odd usage power. 1% Profit hits hard

[dense wyvern]

The joy of waking up and everything powered off.

[crisp idol]

the joy of "are you fucking kidding me it's ONE TILE OFF FROM PERFECTION" for hours on end until it somehow works????

[grizzled osprey]

Yessir, you know it, you love it

[sand pivot]

guys I have a question, in my production line it seems I am getting originium powder much faster than amethyst components (I think it's because amethyst has to go through 2 machines to become a component while originium only needs to go through 1), should I maybe have 2 component production lines instead of 2 originium?

[analog elbow]

"Why is my mega end game valley blueprint base not working?"
Mf did not put sandleaf

[sand pivot]

the same goes for ferrium ^

[keen siren]

Thoughts on production lines that are exactly the same width as their inputs? Good form or do you prefer to have the depot in the center and use both sides?

[marble yarrow]

(dw i havent maxed out laev's kit yet coz fuck good match in kit 2nd stat)

[analog elbow]

Got lucky on artificing. Her whole ahh upgrade costs less than 50 catalyst

[potent mantle]

is it bugged? im not getting any bonus

[crisp idol]

good for the main pac, not for the sub pac

[analog elbow]

No/Wrong operators or your luck are negative.

[marble yarrow]

RIP

[analog elbow]

[marble yarrow]

key word: bill earned via trading

[potent mantle]

ya she has it

[marble yarrow]

nope

[grizzled osprey]

What's the recipe for battery and component? I forgor

[marble yarrow]

switch to xaihi

[grizzled osprey]

I think those ratios are the problem

[sand pivot]

it's 10 powder, 5 components

powder goes through a shredder only (2s production)

[grizzled osprey]

Alright batteries

[sand pivot]

components go through 2 machines (4s production)

[grizzled osprey]

Number of machines won't change output rate here

[marble yarrow]

chen has only generation and prosperity, not bill trading

[analog elbow]

I lost 50:50 on gilberta. Now my Ardelia is P2.
P2 Ardelia + Sign or
P0 Gilberta No Sign

[keen siren]

Production speed should match belt speed. Production time doesn't matter. It's about number of belts going in.

[potent mantle]

so when i want to trade i switch to xaihi? got it

[sand pivot]

so the mahcine will always be waiting on components to make batteries?

[torn ginkgo]

Are we bros.

[grizzled osprey]

Do you mean amethyst parts?

[sand pivot]

yeah

[analog elbow]

Idk which to use

[marble yarrow]

yes, we do have same assignment lineup

[sand pivot]

the battery production keeps getting slowed down bc the machine is always waiting for amethyst parts to be delivered

[hollow drum]

why does it let me put this far but its outside of core.

[grizzled osprey]

It's because you've split the refiner for amethyst into two

You're supplying 1 amethyst part every 4 seconds

[analog elbow]

I gotta check up on my Lovely Babygirl Ginseng Plots

[sand pivot]

that's why I am asking, you think I should just add another amethyst part production line?

that way it might fix the ratios no?

let me show you what I mean

[marble yarrow]

thanks for reminding they exist

otw

[crisp idol]

it works with 1 tile outside thankfully, unlike any other facility

[keen siren]

Or just turn off the gearing unit leeching out of your batteries.

[hollow drum]

yeah but you cant put a belt in front of it

cuz its outside of area

so it doesnt work anyway

[crisp idol]

you can if the center is inside the pac?

this is how you make 12 HC/min in a sub-pac

[sand pivot]

@grizzled osprey

[analog elbow]

you're welcome

[sand pivot]

like if I add another part production and another component production it might fix the issue no?

[waxen fable]

I finally got my factory up and running again, should I immediately try to make an HC Valley Battery line or not?

[grizzled osprey]

Yes but then originium would be less

[sand pivot]

I will tweak the belts though, dw about those for now

[dense wyvern]

Might be much easier if you just separate the two things.

[sand pivot]

the issue is the space though 😅

that's why I went with an all in 1 machine

[grizzled osprey]

Valley has a lot of space tho

[dense wyvern]

I mean, if you want full efficiency, you're limited by unloader slots anyways.

[hollow drum]

thats not what im saying

[nova cradle]

i think ive finally done my factory

[sand pivot]

ig I will rework the bps

[nova cradle]

dismantled and rebuilt

[hollow drum]

the bus extends out that far but you cant put a depot unloader there bc the red box isnt in the aic area

if i move it one tile upward i know i can use it lol

[sand pivot]

look at the space I have left

[hollow drum]

its just annoying to look at

[sand pivot]

(I can't get upgrades rn cause not enough bills btw)

[dense wyvern]

You have the AIC unloaders, probably can use that.

[hollow drum]

oh so i actually do need 5 batteries

im not. sure why i do

[sand pivot]

yeah I guess I will separate the components production lines and the battery production lines for better ratios

[dense wyvern]

Good luck.

[sand pivot]

f me though, gonna spend another 2h fixing this 😭

[dense wyvern]

You'll get better at it.

[marble yarrow]

i mean, why are you doing bombs and component if you dont have bills

[dense wyvern]

The struggle is part of the fun.

[nova cradle]

adjusteed my battery by putting a stash in front so i can gain purple bats siunce i got so muchhh power output anyway

[dense wyvern]

Because bombs go boom.

[sand pivot]

I need bombs for exploration

prob not that many but still, rather safe than sorry yk?

[hollow drum]

i made 4k bombs and i still havent gotten through even 10% of it

[sand pivot]

I was gonna cap out on 8k and terminate the production of bombs

[marble yarrow]

i made like, 100 of it and havent even used all of it back then

[hollow drum]

4k on accident xd

[grizzled osprey]

@sand pivot to optimise production you'd have to converge 50% originium and 50% refined amethyst to the lines I marked, it's honestly much better to just separate them or let them run at less efficiency

[nova cradle]

there we go im happy now.

all that's left is wuling 💀

[sand pivot]

the heck? I made 100 and I am already down to like 30 😭

[hollow drum]

how can i cut 100 power

[grizzled osprey]

Which just means you'll have to send back everything you're currently putting in the gearing machine haha

[marble yarrow]

wait, do you even profit with batteries, what are you doing???

[grizzled osprey]

So there's actually no point doing it

[nova cradle]

building my factory

[sand pivot]

yeah I will just separate it

actually nah

Imma just let it run at slow production rn

it doesn't really matter for now

I need to finish the exploration so I can unlock all the formulas and stuff tbh

[grizzled osprey]

Mmk, batteries running at 50% efficiency btw

[sand pivot]

no point fixing it now and then have to change all the machines again right?

[grizzled osprey]

Components too I think, what's their formula

[dense wyvern]

Go at your own pace.

[marble yarrow]

yeah, allot time in both factory and exploration. it will help you a lot

[grizzled osprey]

Ong, better than just instantly copying bps

[sand pivot]

5 processed originium 5 amethyst parts I think

[crisp idol]

make sure you're not using MK2 rigs on anything other than ferrium first, then go through and cut some ziplines and combat towers

[grizzled osprey]

Ok so that's running at 50% too

[sand pivot]

I mean my blue battery production has the exact same blueprint and it seems to be fine though (I produced like 1k overnight) but the green ones I had like 1k in storage, logged in to only 7

[hollow drum]

i think i already ensured both

i dont use combat towers

but i do use like 93402349203 ziplines

[crisp idol]

that'd do it

[sand pivot]

check if you have any electrical nexus connected across the map, they slowly add up

like I connected some stuff around the map for exploration and later realized I didn't need them anymore

[crisp idol]

if you're still desperate to save more power, Acpey has a great suggestion for you involving protocol stashes

[grizzled osprey]

@sand pivot btw you'll still have same output if you remove the belt that's splitting to the shredding unit on top

[grizzled osprey]

That's because usage > generation when you made green batteries

[marble yarrow]

😭

[calm crow]

What in the baguette

[hollow drum]

[dense wyvern]

That should be the now loading animation.

[misty grotto]

I wish there was a way to optimize even more

[dense wyvern]

Yeah, that's kinda it for Wuling for now.

[sand pivot]

better?

[dense wyvern]

That should work yeah.

[sand pivot]

but it's strange though because like before I logged off, the production > usage but today I log in and the usage surpasses the production

[crude nebula]

wanna ask about setting ziplines, what people usually use to parkour to higher place?

[dense wyvern]

Thermal Banks....

[hollow drum]

i swear

i put ziplines in the most random places

LOL

[crude nebula]

isn't the hitbox a bit harder ?

[dense wyvern]

I don't do it myself, I just see it really often on zipline placement videos.

[hollow drum]

i really did NOT want to walk anywhere

[crude nebula]

i borrow random's ziplines to get to some roof in wuling, but no one achieve top of the mountain on the northwest of main AIC yet

[hollow drum]

the world is healing

[nova cradle]

splitters/convergers 🫷
bridges 👈

https://tenor.com/view/hotline-bling-drake-meme-approve-gif-15664502

[hollow drum]

the world is no longer healing

[storm junco]

If you have 3 ferium outloader = output is 90 right?

If connected to depot

[hollow drum]

yes

[crude nebula]

1 output is always 30/m iirc

[hollow drum]

rate is 0.5 items per second so yeah

[storm junco]

What if you connect 2 ferium loader to 2 refiner and 1 refiner connect one moulding and one fiting at the same time

[hollow drum]

what

so 1 loader for 1 refining unit, and one refining unit goes to one moulding and the other goes to one fitting unit?

[storm junco]

Yes

The output is still 90 right

[cyan forge]

@dense wyvern wdyt kekw

[hollow drum]

the fitting unit would be fine but the moulding unit is lacking input

[cyan forge]

i did what u told me to do

[hollow drum]

no because each item takes time to process too

[dense wyvern]

Nice. 1 battery supremacy

1 battery to power them all.

[storm junco]

The ferium unloader is connected to 1:1 ratio

To refine

[cyan forge]

am glad i was just a tad bit b4 it completely fall apart

lol

[hollow drum]

its not just about the ratio though lol

do you think the items just instantly finish producing

[dense wyvern]

There might be stuff you forgot to turn off like the river water pump in the story quest.

[cyan forge]

alr did all of em

[storm junco]

But it wont consume your ferrium?

[cyan forge]

idk why mine is still that high

[storm junco]

If your output is 90?

[dense wyvern]

If you show me your AIC I can check.

[hollow drum]

i dont understand what youre trying to say

[storm junco]

Or does it rise up to 120

[cyan forge]

it'll overflow n slow the output on its own

[hollow drum]

it does consume your ferrium, you're putting it into processing units?

[cyan forge]

gimme a sec ig

[storm junco]

Nah i connect it to 3 refiner then one of the refiner goes into moulding unit..

Is it only eat 90 ferrium

[dense wyvern]

2 second process time raw materials only matter at the start. In a perpetual system, it shouldn't matter.

[storm junco]

Or the output rise up to 120

[marble yarrow]

mission: make your facilities weirder every day

[hollow drum]

you said yes to two so this is what i thought you meant

[storm junco]

Yes

[hollow drum]

so is it two or three??????????????????????????????????

what the helly

[storm junco]

Moulding unit need two ferrium cube for bottle

And we have 3 refiner

One produce steel part

And one more will produce bottle and steel part

[frigid citrus]

question....between buckflower and citrome....which one we need more/demand

[cyan forge]

buck

[storm junco]

We have 3 ferrium output

[hollow drum]

you can sell either to each outpost iirc

[storm junco]

3 ferrium unloader

So it will not consume more ferrium?

Or is it consuming more ferrium

[hollow drum]

the production of buck is just good cuz you can use it for tac

[hollow drum]

1 unloader puts out 30 ferrium per minute, i dont understand what you want to know

since the items are processed, the output is 30 parts and 30 bottles with that setup (per min)

you cannot gain ferrium other than adding more mines

[storm junco]

Like this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541796977967289/1470834581945979023/IMG_20260211_013122.jpg?ex=699008b3&is=698eb733&hm=203c575b0792a750e64b687a7c9e0b5d3630234a2348a4e24a817ad260d1c895&

[dense wyvern]

Why not just add another dispenser and metatransfer some ferrium or ferrium parts?

[storm junco]

Cuz i dont want to consume more ferrium?

Since it only produce 90/m

[marble yarrow]

do some sorcery

[storm junco]

That 120 ferrium

Right?

[dense wyvern]

Well, it's up to you in the end. You can meta transfer 1500 ferrium/parts to produce more per hour.

[marble yarrow]

115

[storm junco]

Eh?

[dense wyvern]

Metatransfer means you can get 1500 extra ferrium per hour.

[storm junco]

Isnt one ferrium unloader dash out 30/m?

[green moon]

mountain dew pool project anyone?

[marble yarrow]

you can impede it with a converger and an incoming belt

[storm junco]

So why it isn't working at 120

[cyan forge]

how?

[storm junco]

Can you make it like 90

[dense wyvern]

Screenshot it?

[storm junco]

115 is still red

[marble yarrow]

i mean, i have 115/min ferrium ore supply

[cyan forge]

too big

[dense wyvern]

I don't see an issue with having some red.

[storm junco]

It depleted your ore

[dense wyvern]

Doesn't matter.

What else are you going to use Ferrium for anyways.

[storm junco]

When all of it use up they just stop working

[dense wyvern]

At 3 line production you're not making use of meta storage.

[storm junco]

That why i use it

[dense wyvern]

Then you're just building up Ferrium with 3 lines then.

[storm junco]

If it use 90/90 ferrium

[dense wyvern]

With 3 lines, the meta transfer isn't being used.

So you're building up 1500 ferrium per hour.

[storm junco]

What if i want to use metatransfer for other stuff

For example purple ore

Amethyst

[dense wyvern]

You can do it, but what are you going to use the purple ore for?

And it's 1500 per hour, so it's not enough to sustain full hour for the purple ore usage anyways.

[storm junco]

Hold on a minute here

[hollow drum]

no recipe in wuling takes amethyst

[storm junco]

1500 per hour

[hollow drum]

this is some checkers and chess gaming

[storm junco]

We dash out 30/m

30x60?

[marble yarrow]

this is socrates vs plato, please have a seat here

[storm junco]

Hc battery

[hollow drum]

i already earned my phd (permanent head damage) earlier so im not submitting myself to more

[storm junco]

Idk

[dense wyvern]

HC battery uses Ferrium.

[hollow drum]

1. hc battery doesnt take amethyst
2. why are you making it in wuling

[nova cradle]

Before, After

[hollow drum]

genuinely a genius beyond our time

what does he know

[storm junco]

Because transfering battery from v4 and wuling is tiring job

[dense wyvern]

Looks great.

[hollow drum]

JUST MAKE WULING BATTERIES

[storm junco]

And i want them to fully automatic

[dense wyvern]

Then you lose Xiranite battery production.

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-22055472

[storm junco]

I am

But i wont use them

[dense wyvern]

Because you only have enough Originium to make 2 Wuling Batteries per hour.

[hollow drum]

genuine 1000 iq

[dense wyvern]

And SC batteries also use Originium.

[last gull]

Regional 9 factory blueprint plsss

[storm junco]

I just sell em

[hollow drum]

#1461542035617091681

[marble yarrow]

where my wuling HC users club

[last gull]

There are none

[hollow drum]

then theres probably none here either

im not sure what regional 9 is either, i didnt know bps scale depending on your RDM

[dense wyvern]

Region lv9 is not a measure for plans. At region lv9 if you didn't put the ore miners down then your ore input is different so there's way too much variance.

[storm junco]

Nah nah nah

[cyan forge]

@dense wyvern how do u want me to ss it?

[marble yarrow]

probably search by parts instead, like a specific for SC or HC, battery buck A or B, etc

[storm junco]

This is wrong

[hollow drum]

yeah

[storm junco]

What if i want use more ferium for yahzen and jincao drink

[marble yarrow]

so little by little, you can see if the production can keep up with what you have

[dense wyvern]

Uh.... are you on PC?

[hollow drum]

then just meta transfer ferrium

dude

my brain is hemmoraging

[storm junco]

1500 for both farm?

[hollow drum]

wdym both farm

[storm junco]

Both

[hollow drum]

why are there farms all of a sudden

[cyan forge]

yup

[dense wyvern]

Just use snipping tool I guess?

[hollow drum]

you can probably just do what someone else did

take multiple ss and stitch together?

[cyan forge]

never used it, what's that?

[storm junco]

Do metatransfer work in subpac?

[dense wyvern]

It's a snapshot program that should come with every windows.

[cyan forge]

how do i use it?

[dense wyvern]

Metatransferred stuff goes to your depo.

[marble yarrow]

its a general region thing so your region backpack, which is both AIC and subPACs

[storm junco]

What i mean is

[marble yarrow]

wait why did i say backpack instead of depot

[storm junco]

Can you switch the meta transfer on sub pac

[hollow drum]

region backpack

[marble yarrow]

yeah

[storm junco]

And aic

[marble marsh]

What's the thing on the side of the area?

[storm junco]

Different

[hollow drum]

you transfer items from depot to depot?

[storm junco]

Transfer

[hollow drum]

so it doesnt matter where you do it from no?

[storm junco]

So you cannot

[marble yarrow]

its just the same UI bro, im in subpac

[storm junco]

I mean it like having 4 skyforge

And you can only have 2

[hollow drum]

why are we suddenly talking about skyforges

dude idk im confused im just gonna go w

[storm junco]

If you build 2 sky forge in aic

[marble yarrow]

just metatransfer it bro 🥀 🥀 🥀

[storm junco]

Then you cannot build more on sub pac

[hollow drum]

yes

[dense wyvern]

I don't think that has anything to do with metatransfer.

[marble marsh]

I don't even know what that is I only started truly working on my factory today

[hollow drum]

and how does this relate to your ferrium question

lol

[dense wyvern]

It's like your whole valley 4 stuff is stored in one depo.

[cyan forge]

eh wel w/e, 1.79k is good enuf

[marble marsh]

I made a self sustaining seed/plant farm on accident too

[storm junco]

Meaning you cannot do different transfer on sub pac

[dense wyvern]

?

[hollow drum]

my sentence didnt finish i said watch youtube

[analog elbow]

I thought I needed some high end max artific gear or something. Mf was easier than expected

[marble yarrow]

BRO

[hollow drum]

i dont think bro understands what we're trying to say

[marble yarrow]

wobble it wiggle it

[storm junco]

So aic will be giving out ferrium

[dense wyvern]

We're transferring Ferrium into the Wuling Depo which means every AIC has access to it.

[storm junco]

And sub pac will be giving out something else

Which is cannot

[marble yarrow]

??????????

https://klipy.com/gifs/yes-what-5

[hollow drum]

if you meta transfer ferrium from Valley 4 to Wuling, both the Core and the Sub PAC can use it

[storm junco]

Thus is same with skyforge

[hollow drum]

what part of this do you not understand

and what is it with the Sky Forge. yes we can only build two, what is your point

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vegeta-dragonballsuper-1

[hollow drum]

i forgot to finish my Sarkaz lessons 🥀

[storm junco]

We can build 1 sky forge in aic

And another 1 in subpac

[analog elbow]

[hollow drum]

dude

[dense wyvern]

It's actually 2 in the region.

[hollow drum]

how does that relate to meta transfer

im so confused

[dense wyvern]

So you can put 2 in AIC.

[analog elbow]

That's why it's 2
You can build 2 in Core tho

[hollow drum]

are you trying to make an analogy or comparison?

[dense wyvern]

But it has nothing to do with Metatransfer.

[marble yarrow]

JUST METASTORAGE TRANSFER IT BRO 🥀 🥀 🥀

[analog elbow]

I think bro is lost

He's speaking gibberish

[marble yarrow]

JUST PASS THE BALL ISAGI

[crude nebula]

i forgot which machine to craft carbon from plant jiaochi thing in wuling, anyone know?

[marble yarrow]

refining

[hollow drum]

which type of carbon?

[analog elbow]

Meta transfer CREATES THINGS OUT OF THIN AIR IT DOES NOT TAKE ANYTHING

[storm junco]

Then back to my main question

[dense wyvern]

Refine plants for carbon.

[analog elbow]

[storm junco]

If 3 ferrium unloader is use

[crude nebula]

is it just me, or you need to unlock the recipe somewhere?

[storm junco]

Dishing out 90/m

[analog elbow]

Uhhh

Just refine em

[hollow drum]

plant -> refining unit for carbon cube
carbon cube into -> shredder -> grinder(+sandleaf) for dense carbon cube, then refining again for stabilized carbon

[marble yarrow]

it doesnt appear in the refining unit recipe list until you did it the first time

[storm junco]

If you use 4 it actually 120

[crude nebula]

i see

thx for the confirmation

[marble yarrow]

true

[storm junco]

But this guy manage to get it 115

[marble yarrow]

you can go 115 or just go with 120 and let it run out

so its easy

[storm junco]

So i was wondering if you can apply same concept with 3 unloader

[hollow drum]

for setup idea

[marble yarrow]

it will balance itself out

[hollow drum]

its not great but its something

[storm junco]

And it shrink to 90

[noble rivet]

[storm junco]

Or 4 unloader

[analog elbow]

Cool

[storm junco]

But it 90

90/m per minute

[noble rivet]

idk why i got cheap on power

[analog elbow]

90 + meta transfer

[marble yarrow]

use 120 instead of 90 since you are considering metatransfer

[storm junco]

With 4 unloader

[analog elbow]

Meta Transfer will never stop until you command it

[marble yarrow]

its ok if it runs out

[storm junco]

This one

[dense wyvern]

Here:
Ferrium 90/m from mines = 5400 made per hour
1500 from Metatransfer = 1500 per hour
6900 per hour.

6900/60 = 115 ferrium per minute.

The 1500 from metatransfer doesn't show up in production.

[marble yarrow]

lots have that config

[analog elbow]

^

[dense wyvern]

If this explanation doesn't work I give up.

[marble yarrow]

burning 120/min of ferrium while you have a total of 115/min is ok

the game will sort this out for you

[analog elbow]

As i mentioned in the past. Protocol management needs detailed info for beginners

It's so unhinged

[storm junco]

So it actually 120

[analog elbow]

It can lead to this thoughts

[dense wyvern]

115...

[storm junco]

But because you use meta it turn into 115

[nova cradle]

Im gonna come back here later to show off more of my factory when there are no more arguments

[analog elbow]

Your math is not mathing

[marble yarrow]

you go with 120/min usage or 115/min usage with sorcery

[dense wyvern]

Ferrium mines in Wuling is only 90/m

[storm junco]

4 ferrium unloader is 120

3 ferrium unloader is 90?

[dense wyvern]

The 1500/hour is the same as 25 per minute on average.

[analog elbow]

You will run out at some point

[storm junco]

1 unloader is 30?

[dense wyvern]

Yeah. But in the end you get more produce.

[marble yarrow]

dont worry about running out bro. its ok

https://klipy.com/gifs/just-do-it-flames

[hollow drum]

theres no arguments, its just one person not really understanding

[analog elbow]

Like if you think you can produce everything at 100% in this current state of wuling. You need to sleep and forget about it.

[storm junco]

Sybau

You the one who confused

[hollow drum]

i wonder why im confused

[analog elbow]

We are confused

[dense wyvern]

With 3 lines you're using 5400 ferrium per hour or 1350 medicine.
With 4 lines and some down time I can use 5400+1500 ferrium (6900). So in the same hour I can make 1725 medicine with 10 minutes downtime.

[hollow drum]

its not like someone was making confusing statements

[storm junco]

I am literally just asking if we can get 90/m with 4 unloader

Since we can get 115

[hollow drum]

we cant

[marble yarrow]

its ok bro we will ban sorcery and use 120

[hollow drum]

i already answered that from the start lol

[analog elbow]

It's pretty self explanatory bro

[nova cradle]

Ok i see. I dont think myself too. That's why im so careful what to ask cuz i know i wont understand if i ask something too deep.

[hollow drum]

one unloader is 30/min, 4 is 120, you cant tune that down by much

[analog elbow]

You can't force 115 yields to withstand 120 usage

[hollow drum]

nah people here give basic enough explanations imho

[tough ledge]

Magik

[analog elbow]

You might with some sorcery from @marble yarrow

[tough ledge]

Even with metastorage it's only 110

[hollow drum]

but haruna only got it down to 115

you cant shave 30/min off

[tough ledge]

And youll basically slave away every hour to turn the metastorage on it

[ruby sorrel]

why can't you, just merge two unloaders onto one belt

[dense wyvern]

Metastorage is auto.

[marble yarrow]

i mean, why would i go to 90/min lmaooo

[tough ledge]

You can? Converger

[storm junco]

Can we reduce 1 unloader to 15/m

[analog elbow]

Bro might be high

[hollow drum]

you can use converger

[tough ledge]

Oh oop

[ruby sorrel]

yeah easy 90/m out of 4 unloaders for no reason

[hollow drum]

please do not talk to me after you told me to "sybau" after 20329130 mins of confusing explanations lol

[storm junco]

Or u cannot do it

[hollow drum]

i just said you cant and youre still asking if you can/cannot

[nova cradle]

When i built my factory I just made sure I keep it at even numbers from 2, 4 and 6 or if odd, I build maximum of 1, 3 or 7 unloaders

[tough ledge]

[hollow drum]

i genuinely am confused

[dense wyvern]

You could if you have a splitter and put one line back in a loader. But what's the point.

[hollow drum]

im not the one speaking in riddles here

[analog elbow]

You can limit it yes

[marble yarrow]

highest in the room fr

[storm junco]

It possible?

[hollow drum]

you can limit but you cant shave 30/min off your output

i have never seen anyone go lower than 115

[tough ledge]

Is your main language Indonesian or other Malayan branch?

[storm junco]

1 unloader 15/m

[tough ledge]

[analog elbow]

I am Indonesian and I'm also confused.

[ruby sorrel]

isn't that only because no one wants to go under 115

[hollow drum]

i might get offended cuz i also speak it

[dense wyvern]

I mean, a 30/m line with 1 splitter becomes 2 15/m lines. Then you just put one belt back in a loader.

[nova cradle]

I want to keep looking at my baby all day whenever I log in...

[hollow drum]

LMFAOOO

[storm junco]

How much unloader do?

Per minute

[hollow drum]

LIKE DAWG WHY ALWAYS US 🥀

NOT ALL OF US LIKE THIS

[tough ledge]

30 is the flat rate

[analog elbow]

I'm sure usage per unloader is around 30

[hollow drum]

its 30

this has been answered multiple times

[dense wyvern]

You can't fix the exact rate the loaders unload, but you can load some back to kinda manipulate the overall outcome.

[storm junco]

This guy is high

[tough ledge]

Too bad

[nova cradle]

so many numbers...

[dense wyvern]

... Dunno why I bothered.

[analog elbow]

Is this guy trolling ong

[marble yarrow]

thats why some people "impede" unloaders to manipulate unloader output

thats why you can modify an unloader to be 25/min instead of 30/min

[hollow drum]

bro gave an explanation and got told hes high

Acpey 🥀

rip my goat

[analog elbow]

Bro wasted

[storm junco]

If it possible

Then why not share it

[tough ledge]

Jesus fuck

[analog elbow]

Bro he already gave you the best explanation

[storm junco]

That just your limit

[hollow drum]

something tells me youre also in SEA

im probably wrong tho

[hollow drum]

everyone just told you its not possible holy fleebus

[analog elbow]

I'll just stare at my dropped Zip Pylon from 2 days ago

[hollow drum]

who tf said its possible

[tough ledge]

Im not pinoy im not malaysian is the most im gonna tell in place this public

[hollow drum]

i think the high one is you my friend

[dense wyvern]

I said it's possible to manipulate to get a similar outcome.

But yeah, I'm high.

[marble yarrow]

i can give it to u bro

[storm junco]

Nah

[dense wyvern]

[hollow drum]

no thats fair i wasnt expecting an answer

[storm junco]

People will say it not

[hollow drum]

let me theorize

[tough ledge]

I hate how generically small the boxes are

Like the building ones gotta be the size of IKEA flat packs man come on

[analog elbow]

Stop feeding him sorcery bruh. He's even higher now

[storm junco]

Since 1 unloader only produce 30per minute

[dense wyvern]

[tough ledge]

Hol up

His writing is this fire?

[analog elbow]

In the end it's the same. You're just manipulating the data graphs

[storm junco]

Hmm

[analog elbow]

Bro got baited by @marble yarrow

[marble yarrow]

i mean, they can use it to learn more about it

[storm junco]

I make a jincao farm with 3 ferium unloader
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541796977967289/1470834581945979023/IMG_20260211_013122.jpg?ex=699008b3&is=698eb733&hm=203c575b0792a750e64b687a7c9e0b5d3630234a2348a4e24a817ad260d1c895&

That 90/90

[marble yarrow]

well you can still do that

[tough ledge]

Thats like

[analog elbow]

So you want to make that farm with 4 unloaders?

Or something

[tough ledge]

Basically the gist of how to use the ferrium

[dense wyvern]

I'll try one last time.

At 1, it's 30/s, with splitter 2. and 3. is 15/s. If 2 is running back into the depo, it adds the 15/s back to depo, so the ending result is you only have line 3 working at 15/s output.

Anyways, that's it. I'm not wasting anymore time on this.

[storm junco]

Yes with half the ferium output

[tough ledge]

Like, even with metastorage you get like what, 7, 7.5/min?

[storm junco]

If possible

[analog elbow]

There goat already showed you @dense wyvern

[tough ledge]

Language barrier involved explanation can get infuriating

[dense wyvern]

That's why I'm using a picture.

[tough ledge]

Im sorry. I feel your pain.

[dense wyvern]

If this doesn't work I give up.

[tough ledge]

[marble yarrow]

you can limit your syringe with 90 ferrium, so it makes the production become 4.5/min

but you have to match wuling battery production of 8.5/min (10/min if you use 1 battery bank)

[storm junco]

Nah he high

[dense wyvern]

SInce I have no other way to explain.

[analog elbow]

Bruh

[tough ledge]

Its already 11 here why am i still here

[storm junco]

But wuling only useoriginium bruh

[analog elbow]

You can't simply make the unloader 15/m without any witchery. The belt is not your slave to command it run on its own

[tough ledge]

I think watching italian brainrot would be a better use of my time

Than to explain how to fake limit the belt speed

[storm junco]

You can make 2 wuling battery farm

With 360 ori

[marble yarrow]

you can produce up to 12/min of wuling battery, due to originium availability

[storm junco]

Without no ferrium

[marble yarrow]

if you are producing 12/min then ur fine

even if your syringe production is only 4.5

[analog elbow]

Like it's the maximum for now

[storm junco]

Yes it 12

[hollow drum]

why are we still going

[marble yarrow]

if thats your decision its ok

but what will you use metastorage transfer for, if not for ferrium

[analog elbow]

^

[storm junco]

Hc battery?

[marble yarrow]

because its a given advantage

[analog elbow]

Why?

[tough ledge]

Because OP keeps asking the same question

[marble yarrow]

it isnt feasible coz the transfer rate for HC is slow

[hollow drum]

WHEEZE

[tough ledge]

And we cant move on from it because noone else bring up new things

[dense wyvern]

Go do the in game survey. At least we get rewards for it.

[tough ledge]

[hollow drum]

i can but my brain also no worky

[storm junco]

Cuz i will be selling wulling battery

[storm junco]

All of them

[tough ledge]

Like ive said

[storm junco]

And just hook that hc battery to my thermal

Via metatransfer

[marble yarrow]

if you do this, this 30 battery will burn in like 20 minutes

[analog elbow]

Ninja just use 2nd thermal with HC

Meta Transfer HC are super slow

[storm junco]

That okay

Since it metatransfer

[tough ledge]

Hmm....

Cant you do a PWM belt system

[storm junco]

So i dont need the hassle of moving battery via djang

[analog elbow]

You can literally bankrupt the Outpost with the standard production line bruh

[tough ledge]

To stretch that 30HC

To like 2h

[marble yarrow]

i think thats doable

[tough ledge]

I got like a whole new york penthouse of spare spaces in Wuling

[analog elbow]

I'm good on 2nd HC min max thermal

[tough ledge]

Ill just do that so i can sell all LC batts

[marble yarrow]

it isnt a hassle to transfer tons of HC anyway

[analog elbow]

True

[tough ledge]

[storm junco]

What if

[analog elbow]

Nah im out

See ya

[hollow drum]

maybe hell stop if we all shut up

[storm junco]

It a hassle

And let just the metatransfer feed your battery

[marble yarrow]

its a choice

[dense wyvern]

Survey so long.

[analog elbow]

According to my calculations the explanation is worth atleast 1 pull

[marble yarrow]

oh

[hollow drum]

1k

[tough ledge]

I mean skipping the survey 10 times and thats a whole 10 pull that couldve gone to-

Idk

Do people actually run Yvonne freeze build?

[storm junco]

I have another question can you make a blueprint that won't use 1500 battery for 4 thermal?

For an hour

[marble yarrow]

the battery transfered HC?

[storm junco]

I mean output

[storm junco]

Yes

[marble yarrow]

its actually 30 per hour of HC

not 1500

[storm junco]

Hmm

[marble yarrow]

im using them 2 at a time

so your 30 battery isnt gonna last

[indigo oak]

why isnt it making white stuff

this is on the receiving end but nothings happening

[tough ledge]

Youll need to drain the Xiranite and Yazhen first

[marble yarrow]

are you actually using 2 formulas at a time?

[tough ledge]

^

No cant do

Only 1 formula per reactor

[storm junco]

You could hmm

Use a saparating unit

[tough ledge]

Stop.

[hollow drum]

i mean this in the nicest way possible

[marble yarrow]

you can do 2 at a time

[hollow drum]

why do they think they can givei nput

also

i thought you can do two different formula in one reactor unit?

[tough ledge]

O

[marble yarrow]

thats why it has 2 sets of inputs and outputs

[storm junco]

What if you feed it to saparating unit

Then the ferium bottle

To the reactor back

[indigo oak]

uh

[marble yarrow]

just delete the forge then re-place it

[storm junco]

I wonder if you can dishout those liquid from saparating unit

[marble yarrow]

so you start again

[storm junco]

To tank

[marble yarrow]

refresh the forge by deleting it again, and placing it back

[storm junco]

I mean it only eat ferium bottle with liquid in it

[marble yarrow]

and reconfigure the outputs

[indigo oak]

it worked, ily /p

[tough ledge]

Separating unit is utterly useless why even bother mentioning it jesus

[storm junco]

It can clear out ferium bottle

From liquid

It isn't that useless

But i thing you can transfer those liquid back to reactor

[tough ledge]

I mean i either use em all up for my drone (i mean a bottle a second it just drains quickly anyway)

Or ill use em all up to make the 2 meds

[hollow drum]

i think this guy is somewhat taking the piss

[storm junco]

Except

You have two liquid

Jincao and yahzen

[hollow drum]

guys

[storm junco]

So u need two piping

[hollow drum]

does anyone else get angry at their forge

[storm junco]

With saparator

[tough ledge]

Lemme guess, one of the carbon inputs acting up?

[hollow drum]

no

[storm junco]

So one output will eat jincao fluid and one will eat yahzen

[hollow drum]

2s processing time but the ingredients are piling up

[tough ledge]

Wait... 4 belts?

[storm junco]

Your water

[tough ledge]

I only feed it with 2

[hollow drum]

i know i put in 4 lines of carbon, but when i took the belts off it stayed the same

[tough ledge]

Oh

Lol

Yeaaaa i had that with other 2s

[hollow drum]

2s processing time a mirage

[tough ledge]

Idek why

The math aint mathin

It should be constant 30/min on all beds and machines with no clogs

[hollow drum]

yeah exactly

and the output IS 30/min

but somehow it doesnt feel like it is

[storm junco]

Your water output is 30/m or 120/m

From one pump

[long zenith]

you guys think this shit works? lol

[tough ledge]

...que?

[marble yarrow]

nope

[storm junco]

Depend on what you are making

[long zenith]

steel part

for cash

[marble yarrow]

you cant slam multiple belts like that

[tough ledge]

How early game are you

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/light-too-bright-too-early-look-away-cover-eyes-gif-17129652

[long zenith]

as early as valley 4 done

[tough ledge]

Oh so not so early as you only have refugee camp

[storm junco]

Grinding unit need how many ferrium cube

[tough ledge]

Trust me, in early game, KISS is the way tbh

[marble yarrow]

power it up and see what happens. but that will clog everything

[tough ledge]

2 powders with 1 sandleaf powder is the only recipe in grinding unit

[long zenith]

really need those underground tunnels

[storm junco]

What the function of that belt?

Delay?

[marble yarrow]

unless thats a ferrium royal rumble contest

[tough ledge]

Man i wish i knew

[storm junco]

Can u test this with 3 amethyst unloader?

With each refining hook to another different fitting

Making a hexagon

Kind of connection

Owh wait

Steel use amethyst

Hmm

3 amethyst unloader

[long zenith]

no they use ferrium

[tough ledge]

???

[tough ledge]

Im done, toodles folk im joining the other +7s

[storm junco]

You not making zipline tower?

[tough ledge]

[storm junco]

How do you make cryston?

[long zenith]

ive got tons of that

zippy towers i mean

[storm junco]

That zipline pylon

[hollow drum]

im a +7 still going strong

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-dance-gif-4733528965136617165

[storm junco]

Zipline tower use cryston

And other steel part

[storm junco]

Yeah that one

[storm junco]

Hmm

You do have lot of em

[marble yarrow]

BEHOLD

wait i can turn this into bridge

[crisp idol]

i thought i was in a flashback sequence while leveling up the stockade outpost, nope the camera's inside a pipe

[marble yarrow]

smh

[storm junco]

This is valley 4

[long zenith]

really want to converge those belts but they will definitely clog

at least satisfactory has verticality to play with
wish this game uses inserters

[storm junco]

2:2 output ?

[crisp idol]

you're not fitting allat in 12 tiles of width unless you stagger the grinding units vertically lmao

[worthy condor]

Hi hi! I have a tiny little factory built at my refugee camp, and am gonna need batteries and stuff for thermal banks. Where should I even do that at? And what’s the easiest blueprint to go with that?

[long zenith]

yes

[distant ibex]

I suppose I don't have enough ferrium for all those batteries and capsules so some originium is free to turn into origocrust or should I transfer some regulary from wuling which is already making too much product for the money they make

[long zenith]

god please

[storm junco]

1080 ferrium

570 originium

[distant ibex]

Wow very informative, I'll lick your toes in your sleep

[long zenith]

980 ferrium yield?

[storm junco]

360 amethyst

[distant ibex]

There's more?

[long zenith]

no

im missing more lol

ive only got 870

[distant ibex]

I'll figure out again on my own i guess

[storm junco]

First of all is this valley 4 or wulling

[crisp idol]

v4 because there's amethyst yield

[dense wyvern]

That survey took nearly 30 minutes.

[hollow drum]

youre missing 5 ferrium mines

[distant ibex]

If you don't know this from seeing this you'd be far behind me and I suppose you wouldn't be able to help

[storm junco]

Wouldn't meta transfer eat your ferrium deposit?

[crisp idol]

?

[hollow drum]

dude just

at least look like youre trying to answer questions...

[long zenith]

missing this last patch

[hollow drum]

you can probably belt up grinders better

[dense wyvern]

Need to do ||Wulfgard sidestory|| for that one.

[hollow drum]

i just setup like 24 grinder units over 2 hours

lol

[storm junco]

Tell me how do you clear that foggy area in originium science park

Near nexus

That one that gatekeep by gate

[hollow drum]

steel blocks

[marble yarrow]

guys look at my batteries

[storm junco]

This one you can get with wulfgard event mission

[crisp idol]

oh you were asking if metastorage transfer would deplete v4 stock, no but you do have to manually start meta transfer and if you already have basic transfer going that might drop your stockpile

[storm junco]

U need to do wulfgard mission to get inside

[hollow drum]

I kept/improved the 6 GBP Grinders in my Core and still had space for one line of amy bottles

but theres still some space, probably just gonna put some planters

[storm junco]

You just invent diagonal line belt

[distant ibex]

Ohhh there it is, thanks

[storm junco]

Now make it hexagon

[hollow drum]

yeah thats the usual people miss

[random hornet]

[hollow drum]

looks like youre high RDM too so thats sorted

[long zenith]

left of the main road? its the control center
from a quest
has 1 recycling station and couple of chests

[distant ibex]

You missed a spot on top right

[storm junco]

Name quest?

[random hornet]

that might black me out

[long zenith]

no idea mate
long time ago

[storm junco]

Bummer

[grizzled osprey]

Ahem what

[long zenith]

im lvl 50 and havent touched wuling at all just so i dont miss stuff

[storm junco]

They talking about their ass

[grizzled osprey]

[storm junco]

Not their back

[random hornet]

I hope when I wake up I reduce the top number by 20

[grizzled osprey]

Why do the surveys keep getting longer and give like half a pull

[storm junco]

Someone already do it.. it give 1k t credit

Idk if it accurate

But such a long survey do they even asked us that carly is suck at making story book

[grizzled osprey]

Wait wha

[storm junco]

U doing a survey right

[grizzled osprey]

Yea I did it

Then game crashed

[storm junco]

Did you finished it?

[grizzled osprey]

Yea well I did

[storm junco]

For 1k t credit?

[grizzled osprey]

Anyway I'm gonna play amog us rn so I'll check reward kater

[grizzled osprey]

Message said 300 oroberyls so should be 300 oroberyls, 1000 t creds is just for reading the mail

[long zenith]

how lol

[storm junco]

Hmm

[marble yarrow]

BRO DUMPED XIRANITE ON "THE HOLE" AND REGRETS IT

lmaooooo ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJo5aB-n0_c||

[grizzled osprey]

They aren't cheap enough to give just 1000 t creds for survey, 300 oroberyls is bad enough

[storm junco]

Nah i was just thinking 1 sandleaf can produce 3 powder

If i hook it to yahzen carbon

I still have 1 powder remaining

Yet the system still say i haven't have enuff sandleaf powder

Cuz it go to depot

And i was dishing it out to another grinder

[misty grotto]

4600/4600, anyway to improve?

[dense wyvern]

Uhhh....

Mine and use Amethyst?

[misty grotto]

What for?

[dense wyvern]

You'll probably get more credits from that than 1.5 batteries?

To sell.

With full Amethyst production you can make like 24 Citrome/Buckflower Cs a min I think.

[hollow drum]

in V4 people produce Citrome C for extra money using the available Amethyst

and yeah its 24/min at peak

[storm junco]

We have 3 outpost

Max is level 4 each?

I am sorry to say this

But can you make something out of burdenbeast poop?

[frigid citrus]

uhhh...what is the purple gear for last rite...

[analog elbow]

I swear i didn't die i was just doing Ardelia solo gameplay

[analog elbow]

Yes

To make better fertilizer but on the forge

Not worth it tho

[storm junco]

Can you

Turn it

[analog elbow]

I just say yes

???

[storm junco]

Into a carbon

[analog elbow]

No

[worthy condor]

I have my main core fully upgraded!

[storm junco]

Carbon into xyranite

[worthy condor]

What should I do now?

[analog elbow]

It's fertilizer. Idk what you expect

[crisp idol]

rough solution but i wouldn't recommend it anyway since you're losing a bunch of vertical space just to avoid a slight expansion horizontally

[storm junco]

Drinkable jincao xyrsnire

[uneven aspen]

worth it for the 12 hour crops, i mainly did it for the crafting manual rewards then stopped caring for it

[analog elbow]

Idk why does it even need to be made inside forge when it already monopolized by other production line

[long zenith]

not that different
still pretty damn bad

[uneven aspen]

doesnt matter, I move forge to make it for 1 minute then move it back

not a big deal

[storm junco]

If only we can saparate those shieet back into xyranite

Using saparating unit

But hell

It will smell putrid

[crisp idol]

what is this for anyway? sometimes expanding the build actually makes it easier to put certain facilities in places, especially those shredders

[long zenith]

steel parts

[storm junco]

If you can hook that refiner into other shredder

And another refiner into other shredder

Until you make a circle

[crisp idol]

that doesn't help

[ornate pumice]

how can I place it? teehee

[storm junco]

Is this sub pac?

[ornate pumice]

oh this is main pac in wuling or idk what its called the first one

[crisp idol]

for crafting facilities i presume?