aic-factory

[novel herald]

Damn dedication

[solid imp]

Back to the factory

[marble yarrow]

this is how you compute. if the ratio is divisible by 2 or 3, then splitters can do it

[novel herald]

What about the syringe u're producing?

[signal reef]

basically, the weird circular setup you see in the bottom left of the image i sent, 1/6 times the ferrium ore will return to the converger, jamming the normal output and thus slows down the rate of flow

[crimson inlet]

holy shit, artificially lowering usage

[novel herald]

U're not gonna use blueprints?

[signal reef]

the protocol stash takes the full output of the other belt and the 5/6 output of the first and splits it to 11/12 11/12

[trail grail]

is the top-down view not useful on mobile? I think trying to make the factory without is like impossible

[signal reef]

which achieves the 5.75 syringe

[crimson inlet]

This is what I'm seeing with @marble yarrow 's belts rn

[jovial breach]

dang it i knew there's something to do with pstash but i just couldnt figure the maths out

[trail grail]

someone should make a video explaining it if nobody has yet, I would love to understand the math better

[novel herald]

U asia?

[autumn canopy]

whats a good byproduct to make in wuling for depot node

[solid imp]

Pistachio

[sudden egret]

Make sure the BPs you're trying to copy are made in the same server you play on

[novel herald]

Cause the yield is still 15

[crimson inlet]

rice

[solid imp]

I just make buckwort

[novel herald]

U should be able to make it 30

[crimson inlet]

the typical asian product for depot

[trail grail]

does the input material actually affect depot value?

[crimson inlet]

yes, every mat has a diff value

but pricing is the same

[jovial breach]

what's the point of making rice then

[crimson inlet]

it's how much they bid for it that makes bucks

[trail grail]

oh, I just hit top it up and assume the game is making a wise choice kek

[crimson inlet]

idk, plants may be the only byproduct you can depot

[sudden egret]

Max value is max value. Filling up crates is only based on value, not amount of items

[marble yarrow]

you can also split the 30 xiranite for batteries and components (since i exact-match wuling outpost bill generation)

here i split xiranite into 7.5 for battery and 22.5 for component

[jovial breach]

i just always happen to have excess stuff

[crimson inlet]

same

I have like... 41k of xirenite

[trail grail]

what's the math behind the splitters? like what's the resulting flow-rate on each line when there's 2 connected vs 3 per splitter

[crimson inlet]

as excess for me monkey wrenching my bats

[signal reef]

it's based on the number of splitters

[jovial breach]

i dont get this part

[silk depot]

okay I just put the AIC in wuling
the plan is to speedrun making gold gear
for that I need to quickly set up mines, start making xiranite items, let them accumulate as I do story, sell some to get 5k+ to unlock stock market, then speedrun the whole factory business
any idea how long it'll take?
my valley rdl is 12, idk if that helps do things faster

[signal reef]

basically 3/4 times his xiranite will end up in the gearing unit instead of the packaging unit

at 30 items per min that's 22.5 and 7.5 respectively

[marble yarrow]

the components use packed origocrust

[flint widget]

is there bp for LC bat?

[marble yarrow]

looks weird coz i didnt fit it right lmao

[sudden egret]

Valley RDL has no impact on Wuling outside of metatrasnfer for more ferrium

[jovial breach]

oh somehow i thought that's a stash

[marble yarrow]

refining unit

[sudden egret]

check #1461542035617091681

[trail grail]

think you can technically make xiranite right away

[solid imp]

After 6 hours of main story quest to unlock the AIC

[trail grail]

you don't necessarily need stock market though unless you need to get a specific bp from there

[trail grail]

yeah pretty much, and then another like 40 minutes for the outpost

[solid imp]

Then you win

[crimson inlet]

YOU ARE POOR IN WULING

.dump

[solid imp]

Cuz story over

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[trail grail]

winning never felt so bad </3

stare into the empty void of "go explore"

[solid imp]

And now we dream of the day we can marry fangyi and/or tangtang and unite wuling and the qingbo stockade

[trail grail]

oh uh yeah

[autumn canopy]

can it be farmed in the aic or manual plotting

[trail grail]

me too...?

[solid imp]

"Meet hanako at embers"

[crimson inlet]

manual plotting sadly

[trail grail]

for the depot just make excess of any plant and you're good tbh

[autumn canopy]

i just made yazhen

should be fine

[signal reef]

speaking of being poor in wuling

at least the state of the depot delivery jobs got better recently

[trail grail]

bro setting up those zips took forever

[signal reef]

like 3 days ago i had to spend 30 mins refreshing those jobs

[solid imp]

Considering tangtang is worried about feeding her crew how come she don't accept food for the outposts
I got citrome coming out my ears here supreme chief

[autumn canopy]

saving up on using wuling batteries instead

[signal reef]

today it took me just 10 to get 3 wuling deliveries

[marble yarrow]

wuling bills job hunting

[trail grail]

we're building the farm, shh

[crimson inlet]

When the outposts don't want rice

[autumn canopy]

they want batteries and syringes

[solid imp]

Living off jingcao drink

[autumn canopy]

all the fault of them wulingers

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-man-angry-angry-asian-man-asian-man-vindooly-gif-27398480

YOU DON'T LIKE RICE

[solid imp]

What does the stockade even need with batteries

[trail grail]

I don't know that a single person on my friends list has an available delivery job to pickup, but tbh I don't know that I've been checking either

[solid imp]

Supreme chiefs these days only know charge they phone

[marble yarrow]

ey

[trail grail]

have people made zip-guides for every region yet or is that an open niche

[crimson inlet]

I don't zipline, I walk until I reached it

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-anton-ego-i-don't-love-swallow-hate-gif-7875854122689982541

[trail grail]

but factory goods no jumping, I can't run so far without jumping

[signal reef]

don't let them know the tech that if you fill a pool with yazhen/jincao it provides unlimited healing when you're at least knee deep

[solid imp]

I only walk to reach somewhere to plonk a zipline

[crimson inlet]

I don't jump

[trail grail]

I must jump

[flint widget]

how do this look?

[trail grail]

spacebar must be pressed

[solid imp]

Looks like you're halfway there

[trail grail]

with that much ferrium you can probably make HC batteries soon

[trail grail]

just need that sandleaf

[flint widget]

👍

[crimson inlet]

they'll be bankrupt first before reaching those amounts my man

[flint widget]

sadly I decided to push story, so all my outpost is lv1 lmao

[signal reef]

honestly i've been in such a rush to accept those deliveries given how much in demand they are that i didn't even stop to check if any of them are on my friends list

[flint widget]

no one want HC bat

I cant even profit with them

[crimson inlet]

lvl 4 all my outposts

[trail grail]

Perhaps I am not looking at the right menus, I didn't realize it was just like a public ffa, I figured it was also friends list based like stocks

[crimson inlet]

they all want buck a

[trail grail]

ahh, ic

[sudden egret]

Yeah, Wuling deliveries, and 300k V4s are low-key PvP in order to snag those

[trail grail]

still, may be worthwhile to setup some higher tier production with that ferrium to build a stock

[crimson inlet]

I like how not 1 mimute and all my transfered jobs got accepted

[flint widget]

also all my AIC have 0 upgrade, nor can I afford it

[trail grail]

guess it's technically an extra 1m/reset in V4 so

[flint widget]

cant really fit anything

[trail grail]

gg, gl hf

[crimson inlet]

GIVE US THEM HARDHATS INGAME

[trail grail]

tbh, I just want to be able to set my tp point for each outpost/aic

[sudden egret]

Well you pseudo-can

The location of hte AIC/PAC in the zone, is where the TP is

[trail grail]

yes but I'm using it

and honestly having it be outside the actual building zone is ideal so then I don't have to waste space to put a zip right there

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elder flame]

Why won’t they let me build pipes in V4

[sudden egret]

Because fluids are Wuling exclusive

[vestal frigate]

there is a water source in originium science park

you just can't pipe from it

[rough breach]

is there need to make factory for all the parts

i mean these

[reef cobalt]

Realistically, no, just profit and to produce certain facilities

[sudden egret]

Yeah, but there's no reason to even use it in V4

V4 has 0 use of fluid

Also that's not the only water source in V4

[nova lodge]

i wish sprinklers and pipes were allowed for the V4 farm....

[sudden egret]

Steel parts can be used for Purple towers for the TD, but beyond that if it doesn''t go into a recipe, then they're useless for the most part

[sudden egret]

I kind of understand, but they only need 1 watering to complete so it's honestly not that big of a deal

[vestal frigate]

ik, just the one that came to mind immediately

[obtuse radish]

WAHTS A GOOD MONEY FARM

[sudden egret]

depends on your outpost levels

and if you've got sandleaf

[obtuse radish]

its 3

[flint widget]

cap c will never betray u

[obtuse radish]

well i got

money from selling

[sudden egret]

But your standard settup is the following for V4
18/m HC Battery
18/m Buck [A]
24/m Citrome [C]

[obtuse radish]

hmmmm

what about me just spamming origium selling and amethst partselling

:/

[sudden egret]

You won't drain your stockbills

you wanted money farm, not trash farm

[obtuse radish]

what

what does that mean

[flint widget]

u want crafting that need buckflower or sandleaf

[sudden egret]

Just selling base orignium and amethsyt stuff is horrible

[flint widget]

those are inf

[sudden egret]

compared to selling HC bats and Buck [A]

[flint widget]

ore is not

[obtuse radish]

oh ok

mb

so

[ornate scaffold]

ohnah

ive created an abomination

[obtuse radish]

hc bats and buck A?

[flint widget]

the more plant needed, the more money u make from each ore

[sudden egret]

But your standard settup is the following for V4
18/m HC Battery
18/m Buck [A]
24/m Citrome [C]

[obtuse radish]

alr bet

ty

i got 500k saved up tho

[sudden egret]

500k is childs play

[obtuse radish]

i got it from reselling stuff

ik

[past hatch]

buck SSS when

[obtuse radish]

im onky playing for a week

[flint widget]

why citrome c not buck c?

[sudden egret]

It doesn't matter tbh

Either or

You can even 12/m each if you want

the only difference in recipe is which plant you're shredding

[flint widget]

honestly they just for selling anyway

[obtuse radish]

yeah

[flint widget]

half half might be the best since u get to keep more before hitting cap

[sudden egret]

You're never gonna use them, and they hold the same value in the outposts

[obtuse radish]

ok bet

lemme look at bluepirnts to see

[past hatch]

if you're not gonna log in for 3 days, yeah. batt and buck A will be full before then tho

[obtuse radish]

if theres anything

i log in everyday for da rewards

[rough breach]

btw do wuling use the same plyon? if yes i wont restock my plyon and zipline first hahaha

[signal reef]

you can but you wouldn't want to once you get your hands on the new pylons

(you don't need to run those 80m lines they do it for you)

[sudden egret]

Wuling has their own wireless pylons/relays

[rough breach]

so just zipline

aight

[crimson inlet]

I like these than the original

[signal reef]

you can still continue to use electric pylons for AICs

[crimson inlet]

You can do some crazy pylon work with wireless

[signal reef]

in AIC zones electric and xiranite pylons are the exact same

[sudden egret]

Yeah, for factory building. Xiranite has no difference from normal. But outside the AIC zones, then Xiranite are auto-connecting via wireless power

[crimson inlet]

imagine they made the TD gamemode like this

[ornate scaffold]

lowkey this is pretty good

[lean crater]

Guys, what are currently maximum rate production for originium, amethyst, and ferrum ores?

[ornate scaffold]

this was already pretty hard, idk if i can make it even smaller

[tough ledge]

making that smaller would require you squeezing horizontally

thats good

[trail vine]

pretty fire

my own attempt is worse

[hybrid comet]

what should i do with this space

[ornate scaffold]

this took 4 hours of frying my brain

[ornate scaffold]

fuuuuck this is 51 tiles

so close

[lean crater]

Aight thanks

[vague storm]

A bit better now :)

[shrewd knoll]

i got it on top 😄

[civic yacht]

Make circle belts

[sudden egret]

Wuling has such an insane amount of space right now, you could be wasteful and still have to actively try to use more than half the space

[vague storm]

Is that with area expansion upgrades?

[queen siren]

this suck to look at

[solid imp]

With like one and the depot bus so you're not trying to build with just the 6 outputs of the PAC

[sudden egret]

idk, I always had a shitload of extra space

[queen siren]

Always keep the factory growing

[tulip anchor]

have to zoom out like this

[crimson inlet]

damn, I have this

[ornate scaffold]

That is very aesthetic

I just had to do some shenanigans to get it to fit horizontally

[crimson inlet]

I would dig this if it wasn't for the middle part, my ocd can't handle irregualar lines

[ornate scaffold]

😭

Yeah it made me so sad

The things I do to save space for no reason

[nova lodge]

me when i setup my factory: how do i minimize space used as much as possible?
(sometimes ended up doing the opposite instead =.=)

[queen siren]

What is the best farm loop placement here?

[sudden egret]

Put the seeder in the middle

Planters should be oriented in the same direction

seeder in the opposite direction

[pseudo quest]

You guys use 2 planters???

[nova lodge]

always 2 planters.

[sudden egret]

Unless it's Wuling plants, 2 planters is a must

[nova lodge]

probably not enough energy earlier on, but still 2 planters later once available.

[sudden egret]

1 planter feeds the seeder, seeder feeds both planters, 2nd planter goes directly into whatever production lines its needed for

[pseudo quest]

I only use 1 planter per seedpicker im cooked

[queen siren]

seed overflow right here

[sudden egret]

There's no value is mass stocking seeds

[nova lodge]

i still use 2 planter there lul, 1 of it i just use it to make something else (like medicine powder stock pile or plant stocking ;v).

[pseudo quest]

Seedpicker <-> Planter -> other stuff

[sudden egret]

Well I specify Wuling plants since that's 1:1, unless you're using a 2nd seeder to fill up another planter

Sandleaf in wuling is still a 2:1 ratio

but Wuling plants are a straight 1:1

[nova lodge]

wait....weren't all plants give 1:1 ratio for seed - plant consumption?

unless its carbon.

[queen siren]

I haven't build anything in Wuling yet, what the different for planter?

[sudden egret]

Wuling plants make 2 plants per seed

[queen siren]

oh

[sudden egret]

Seeders in wuling only make 1 seed per plant

So you have your planter have 2 outputs, 1 back into seeder, 1 into production line

But that doesn't apply to plants that don't use water

[nova lodge]

ah right, that.
but yeah, i still use 2 planter lul :3.
excessive i know, but well, it works in wulling.

too much space. (one of the other planter i just use it for other stuff).

[sudden egret]

This is optimal for Wuling water plants

[pseudo quest]

Yeah i do that

[vital kraken]

Yo so, im kinda confused, i bought a depot bus section and nothing really happened

[sudden egret]

Wuling has the neat thing where you can place your depot bus anywhere in there

It's a building you have to place

[nova lodge]

^

[sudden egret]

The upgrade enables you to place/use them

[vital kraken]

ohhh i see

[nova lodge]

the bad part? (of sorts)
is that i need to be placed within the AIC area, so it needs extra space.
can be both a good and bad thing

[marble yarrow]

you need this square guy to connect sections to it

[sudden egret]

Even with it taking extra space, Wuling PAC has more space than V4 PAC

[vestal jetty]

Anyone done any gardening? I just tried fertilizing a plot with burdo-muck, and it shortened the timer by just 1 minute!...
Can I produce the other fertilizer?

[vital kraken]

would you say that this area would be the best to place it? due to the space

ah pretty far from the water though

[sudden egret]

It's Wuling, you don't' need to consider space requirements

[vital kraken]

damn i stumbled across heaven 😭

[sudden egret]

You're unable to make much, that you'd have to actively try to use more than half the space

[nova lodge]

depot? you can just place it anywhere though.
the lines just need to connect to existing ones with a bus depot connected to it.

[marble yarrow]

wdym water is far lmao

[vital kraken]

like its on the other side

[nova lodge]

yeah, wulling factory plan is build around avoiding pipes

you can get water from the waterfall area btw.

[vital kraken]

ah fr?

[marble yarrow]

i mean

[nova lodge]

finnicky, but doable

[shrewd knoll]

yea but you make it in the forge of the sky

[vestal jetty]

There is no recipe for it. The description says it's burdo-muck mixed with xiranite

[nova lodge]

hmm....not sure why, but i avoided doing this and just went for direct connection from pump to building.
maybe putting a storage tank midway, but that's about it.
(i remember its due to pipe transfer limitation, but not sure about the exact amount).

[shrewd knoll]

its a recipe you see when you craft it

liquid xiranite + muck

[nova lodge]

imagine...making fertilizers instead of batteries / gears :3

[marble yarrow]

tank isnt really required.

just for looks lmao

[wheat forum]

It’s a secret that you gotta play an experiment with.

Plus, try producing carbon with local plants.

[pseudo quest]

Imagine making stuff (i cant im stupid)

[nova lodge]

for tanks, yeah, i just put a few every now and then.
just for easy water access for bottled water :3.

its important for the fields though, since you are limited to 2 pumps there.
(unless you wanna do something silly and get water all the way from your base).

[vestal jetty]

carbon with plant? isn't that the way to just produce a plot?

[shrewd knoll]

hes just saying that those recipes dont show up either until you actually process one

[wheat forum]

No, I mean producing carbon by burning plants.

[summer haven]

what seed should i mainly farm i had 2 buckleflower and 1 aketine already

[crimson inlet]

imagine they have a QoL that toggles icons and names

[nova lodge]

both
they both have their uses.
bombs are quite important in valley 4, but you don't need too much of it (aketine)
buckleflower for heals.

[wheat forum]

You’ll need buckflowers in long term
Aketine are just for making bombs, which doesn’t need that much.

[sudden egret]

Once you have a couple hundred bombs, you won't really need them anymore

[summer haven]

I already had but i still have 4 more machine for flowers so what should i put on additionally

[crimson inlet]

11k bombs is all you need (min of 1k)

[summer haven]

i'm always at max aketine and buckflower so we will put that aside for now

[nova lodge]

i have 80k++
mainly for deliveries for my friend list. (unsuspected bomb deliveries huehue).

[shrewd knoll]

you damage the integrity, you die

[rough breach]

the perfect candidate

[sudden egret]

Deliveries don't go specifically to your friends list. It's server-wide pvp to who gets it

[shrewd knoll]

deliveries pretty plentiful now, no one wants to do them really

[nova lodge]

that's good, once you unlock new recipes, you can make an interlooping plantation and start churning out tons of meds.

[sudden egret]

Correction: No one wants to do the shitty ones

People love to do Wuling deliveries and 300k Valley

[crystal herald]

I just use sandleaf powders XD

[nova lodge]

wulling deliveries doko ?

[fiery hatch]

wait hold on ive been delivering explosive??? while going through LBs?

[nova lodge]

[sudden egret]

but a 50k delivery nobody gives a fuck about

[shrewd knoll]

even with a super flawless zipline, people just dont want to play amazon driver simulator

[nova lodge]

yes huehue.
i wish it will just go boom if someone decides that jumping is funny.

[sudden egret]

I''m surprised. My deliveries are taken almost instnatly

and done within a couple minutes after I notice them taken

[shrewd knoll]

every player can potentially transfer 4 but can only do 3 jobs, it's going to clog sometime soon

[sudden egret]

THe only ones I ever see take any sort of time to be taken, is Science Parks

[nova lodge]

i wish they will add a filter to region deliveries....

[calm crow]

Somehow this hits me lol

[sudden egret]

but nobody is taking a V4 delivery less than 150k

[nova lodge]

^ yeah, senior peps generally won't take them.

[fiery hatch]

yea i ignore every delivery below 300k XD

[nova lodge]

too limited in delivery chances :v

i would do it if i actually can do more, but sadly, nope

[sudden egret]

But 300k V4s, and any Wuling delivery go like TP before a disaster

[queen siren]

multi items delivery would been cool

[sudden egret]

You can do this though

[nova lodge]

nah, you get bombs and aketine powders instead ;3

[fossil spoke]

u cant no ?

[sudden egret]

You can fill up a crate with any number of items

multiple different types, as long as the value reaches max you can add as much of any number of items you want

[nova lodge]

you can, just select multiple items to fill the bar up.

[fossil spoke]

oh, I thought delivering multiple items is delivering 2 orders

[shrewd knoll]

isn't the cryston cakes the best material to amount ratio

[fossil spoke]

nvm then

[vestal jetty]

@shrewd knoll @wheat forum It's working, thank you

[sudden egret]

No you can't do multiple orders, but you can have multiple items in the order

At the end of teh day the delivery only gives a fuck about Value amount, not items within

[fiery hatch]

lol making sure it aoe is bigger XD

[nova lodge]

yeah...sad that you can't take multiple deliveries at once.

[calm crow]

Loading your package with pipe bombs

[nova lodge]

yes, always.
now, please give me an option to put a trigger that it goes boom the moment someone decides to jump.

[queen siren]

y'all are something

[calm crow]

We are menace at maximizing pipe bomb manufacturing

[nova lodge]

don't worry, its just 2700 bombs inside a factory large sized package.
what can go wrong eh? :3

[fiery hatch]

dropping deliveries on LBs while on zipline shouting AC-130 ABOVE XD

[rapid kelp]

Would it be a nice choice to dedicate 1 AIC as a powder lab then the rest are for the actual manufacturing

[calm crow]

I have 70k bombs lol

[vital kraken]

what pipe should i use to make 2 of these go through?

finding it difficult to find out

[nova lodge]

i would actually do it if there were more bomb types and uses for them.

[calm crow]

Bridge

[novel herald]

Splitter

[vital kraken]

hmm i see

[summer haven]

anyone have a valley pass factory i could use?

[vital kraken]

uh

[queen siren]

delivering 5k refiner to my destinate place

[vital kraken]

like its still not going through

[nova lodge]

wrong direction =.=

or not enough water

[vital kraken]

oh

[calm crow]

We need a pump lol

Like in Satisfactory

[sudden egret]

1 pump can satisfy 2 buildings

[marble yarrow]

thats a pipe bridge. idk if you are intending to use a splitter

[calm crow]

I have 70k bombs to put that sentence down

[queen siren]

what are you making?

[vital kraken]

im intending to find whatever works 😭

[sudden egret]

Alright there ted

[summer haven]

i'm current kinda free atp i'm good with everything i need for early

i just wanna optimize the valleypass that i haven't use for factory

[marble yarrow]

is this your intention?

[sudden egret]

inb4 he fails to realize splitters have a dedicated input port

[vital kraken]

i mean yeah

[sudden egret]

and that they have to rotate the splitter

[fiery hatch]

lol

[marble yarrow]

you are using a pipe bridge

it doesnt split

[queen siren]

How about HC battery build

[vital kraken]

ok im using the splitter and same thing

[sudden egret]

Fucking called it

[summer haven]

ye i haven't done that yet

[fiery hatch]

hahahahahahahah

[sudden egret]

Your input port is on the opposite side

[marble yarrow]

wrong rotation

[shrewd knoll]

theres a little indicator that it's backward

[vital kraken]

ohhhh

now i get it

ok got it fixed, thanks

[sudden egret]

Remember, things are programmed super basic. The buildings are dumb af, treat them as such

[nova lodge]

doens't the belt requires splitter too....how did you miss it O.O?

[queen siren]

oh wait, I haven't optimize my HC factory

[inner parcel]

does anyone know any absolutely min-maxed factory tutorials?

[fiery hatch]

belts dont really need splitting

[sudden egret]

Belts rarely require splitting. Only use of a splitter I've found is for thermal banks

[nova lodge]

^quite true, unless you are min-maxing

[sudden egret]

Even when mix-maxing. Splitters are generally worthless

[nova lodge]

true as well

[shrewd knoll]

the only belt u can potentially split is aketine powder

[fiery hatch]

yea this belt is not powerful enough to consider splitting

[hybrid comet]

is this a good item intake?

[fiery hatch]

its already a 0.5/s belt, why do u need 0.25/s

[hybrid comet]

like speed wise

[fiery hatch]

nope

[sudden egret]

Nope, 1 belt of each is severely hampering your production

You''re gonna need 5 belts going in there

3 of the Orig, 2 and the Steel

[fiery hatch]

steel part is 50% speed, dense is 33% speed

[nova lodge]

best input:
3 belt originum
2 belt parts

[solid imp]

Welcome to ratios

[marble yarrow]

sometimes you need throttling. there's some minor usage which i find interesting and fun

[hybrid comet]

i see

[solid imp]

Enjoy your maths

[hybrid comet]

well i hate math but ill cope

[sudden egret]

Welcome to the mathing part of the factory. It''s all ratios from here on out

[nova lodge]

its pretty simple really. nothing too crazy there.

[sudden egret]

Yeah, the math is mega-basic

[solid imp]

You thought it was industrialization memes about spreading cancer rocks, but it was just math all along!

[sudden egret]

If someone is incapable of doing the math required...they''re actually less capable than a 2nd grader

[solid imp]

But also yeah it's basic arithmetic

So

[nova lodge]

unless they start putting integers and making awkward timing for production -,-

[solid imp]

[nova lodge]

[sudden egret]

Given the design so far, I'd be shocked if they went this route...
Factory gamers would rejoice for the complexity, casuals would despair and lose motivation

[solid imp]

I can't wait until we get all the weird ratios like in factorio with productivity modules when stuff is like a ratio of .783222 repeating to 1.31415

[sudden egret]

Factorio ratios are cancer to juggle

[fiery hatch]

yep i understand all that, coming from factorio. i just dont think throttling is even necessary here. but i wont say you cant do it, to me its just not needed

[nova lodge]

please don't, this is AK-endfield, not factorio.
don't go too deep please =.=

[shrewd knoll]

there is no ratios in factorio, only legendary beacons

[solid imp]

The secret is to just get close enough and let it work itself out lol

[solid imp]

Quality i build my bases large and cheap

[unreal laurel]

do i need anything in wuling for valley IV aic or no

[sudden egret]

Nothing that V4 can't already make

Wuling buildings are exclusive to Wuling

[solid imp]

You can't storage transfer back anyway

[nova lodge]

i don't think you can transfer to valley 4 yet?

[solid imp]

You can manually, i guess sending a few healing items back isn't terrible

[nova lodge]

^yes, but no reason to mostly.

[fiery hatch]

huh we cant auto transfer wuling > v4?

[nova lodge]

nope, not yet

[sudden egret]

RDL for Wuling isn't allowed to go high enough yet

[solid imp]

Mostly just to not need to hoof it back to wuling to restock chen on yazhen syringes after she facetanks everything

[crimson inlet]

can't wait to learn how to juggle with that

gonna see more of this soon

[scenic hawk]

Guys what attack tower is most powerful for energy alluvium?

[scenic hawk]

?

[low obsidian]

It will affect the carbon production make it more constant

[jagged scroll]

Does it even matter what kinda bottle I use for my liquid xiranite?

[low obsidian]

Yes it is

Eh nevermind

[fossil spoke]

for what purpose tho

if u need it for the drone exploration

then no

[jagged scroll]

clearing blight and such

[low obsidian]

For xiranite liquid it's no problem

[crimson inlet]

imagine, originium bottles

[low obsidian]

But for the yazheng and jincao only ferrium bottle allowed

[low obsidian]

Not exist because it's energy based item

[fossil spoke]

nope

u can fill those bottle too iirc

but u cant use them in the recipe forr tactical

[crimson inlet]

yeah, but its somehow both an energy item and a building material

[low obsidian]

Yeah for syringe and drink is not allowed

[fossil spoke]

even u can put that liquid into cryston bottle

yeah we had cryston bottle

and dont ask why I knew it

[low obsidian]

Yeah i know i have them

[jagged scroll]

I lowkey hoped we would see a return of more of these mats.
I guess we got D96 tho.

[fossil spoke]

iam putting every type of item into da machine and hopes it not gonna explode

😭

[low obsidian]

They are the ending material

[low obsidian]

I mean

Only some look similar

But we know that's the same mat

Man it's just 3 hour and 48K ferrium gone

[jagged scroll]

True + I got some burnout from AK 1

3x Buck A and 3x HC Batteries. And Amethyst is free choice pretty much.

[fossil spoke]

and dont forget the citrome c

for extra bucks

[novel herald]

For non drinking stuffs u can use anything. But u won't use uranium bottle as a drinking bottle right?

[fossil spoke]

ur ferrium is enough

18 hc battery needs exactly 1080 ferrium

/ min

[novel herald]

U can have 18/min batt

[jagged scroll]

Or basically 3x the HC battery setup.

[fossil spoke]

yeah

[fiery hatch]

lol 15/min buckA, workers skipping work

[fossil spoke]

any reason u choose buck c ?

ratherr than citrom c

coz buck c only sellable in some outpost, not all

[novel herald]

Both satisfy outposts' need right?

[jagged scroll]

I simply went with this.

[fossil spoke]

ah

[fossil spoke]

I use citrome c rather than buckpill c to balance the trading section since I can sell citrome c on all outpost

so if I short few valley bills, I can sell that citrome c on any outpost I need

[jagged scroll]

I should clean up my imported blueprints..

[fiery hatch]

oh demn citC is actually for all outpost huh imma change mine then i guess, if i know which part does buckC on someone else's blueprint XD

[jagged scroll]

same

[jade lotus]

do cryston parts sell at any outpost later on?

[jade lotus]

for stock bills n stuff yknow

[unreal laurel]

dk

[fiery hatch]

rn theres none that buys cryston

[unreal laurel]

i got a pretty neat 24x31 setup tho

not neat in the literal sense

its train wreck

[solid imp]

None of the parts get sold to anybody AFAIK

[fiery hatch]

oh ametyst part do

[jade lotus]

i mean i saw that infra station buys ferri parts at lvl 1 so i thought maybe if i lvl it up a bit it'll buy cryston too

but yeah rip

😔

[fiery hatch]

yea maybe there will be new updates thats gonna buy em, for now keep it to urself XD

[jade lotus]

wait what abt cryston bottles

can they get traded

[fiery hatch]

i think the ame bottle is, but not cryston

iirc

[runic stag]

best gun powder farm ?

[rapid kelp]

How to achieve a 1.5 item/sec belt input

[fiery hatch]

use 3 belt

[rapid kelp]

[nova lodge]

[fiery hatch]

belt is 0.5/s

[rapid kelp]

I forgor these belts travel at 0.5/s

[fiery hatch]

same, i always thought its 1/s XD

[rapid kelp]

I did 0.75 item/s with 2 belts and compounding a splitter and converger help

[spark garden]

when i try to use blueprint code, game says code too long, why?

[fiery hatch]

either you use wrong place to input or the code is for different server

i did the wrong place and the wrong server code

[jagged scroll]

I think it nuked my message. Do we use the leftover yield on originium for raw power?

[spark garden]

ty

[fiery hatch]

sure, if you want to.

[low obsidian]

If you have small land plot left just use this method for xiranite water production also this won't affect the main production considering xiranite water is just a secondary not primary stuff

[idle grove]

can this even be optimized...

[nova lodge]

reduce the belt length?

also, max production is 2x steel, 3x dense originum belt / production lines.

[fiery hatch]

i had this feeling that thats not full production

[nova lodge]

my suggestion is to cut off steel part production and assign it as a separate line, makes it easier to reproduce.

[jagged scroll]

You might want twice the output? The blueprint I got they pump exactly twice the amount of items from the depot for just 1 Battery.

[fiery hatch]

this setup depends solely on ferrium parts, since dense ori will be clogged

[novel herald]

Too many input to grinders? They only need 2 ori dust line and 1 sandleaf dust line

[analog elbow]

creeper should be good

[novel herald]

Also need another steel part line

[nova lodge]

more like another steel part line + another dense originum line

10 : 15 after all

[novel herald]

Wrong game? But if u're lookin for an answer, creeper farm still works best

[fiery hatch]

yea need 3 grinder for dense and another steel part line

[novel herald]

Dis

[idle grove]

so two lines for the raw mats and assemble with final line?

[fiery hatch]

you probably did this counting on sandleaf being one input

[nova lodge]

3 dense originum line
2 steel part line

consistent battery.

[idle grove]

ok i will try to make this out

[novel herald]

U should have 4 unloaders for ferrium, 6 unloaders for originium, 2 unloaders for sandleaf (or make the sandleaf farm there)

[nova lodge]

i would suggest putting the steel part line somewhere else and store it using protocol stash.
makes the line less clunky.

[fiery hatch]

sadly this battery need 5 sandleaf dust for max run production

[analog elbow]

"I swear i found this Legit Creeper Spawner here"

[nova lodge]

^
another reason why its better to split the lines a bit

[novel herald]

What to do with the extra 1 sandleaf dust tho

Do we just let it clog?

[fiery hatch]

eh ground buck thing

[novel herald]

So far I just let it be

[analog elbow]

it's for delivery bro

[novel herald]

Oooooo

[analog elbow]

or you don't do deliveries....

[nova lodge]

i just let my sandleaf clog itself.
if i need them, i will apply a shredder on my lines.

the full sandleaf, not the dust.

[analog elbow]

[novel herald]

I delivery amethyst part 24/7

Ferrium for wuling

[fiery hatch]

i trust max button XD

[analog elbow]

bruh

[nova lodge]

i still put bombs ;3
bombs all the way.

[novel herald]

I hev extra amethyst bro, dunno what for

Turn em into parts to share to people of valley

[fiery hatch]

uh buck c or citrome c?

[analog elbow]

Why didn't you make Smol Canned Citrome

[novel herald]

Buck

[novel herald]

No need for it, I'm producing 2022 stockbill per min

[analog elbow]

A or C?

[novel herald]

Max outpost is 1992 bill per min

[analog elbow]

Buck if C

[fiery hatch]

c right? for ametyst

[analog elbow]

early game yes

[analog elbow]

i mean if you wanna

[fiery hatch]

atleast you got 7 iirc than ame part for 1

on outpost

[analog elbow]

Should be hating on amethyst. that's at least +1 usable to do

[novel herald]

I've been satisfying all outpost from early game till now, not once I produced any citrome products

[analog elbow]

lemme see your Protocol Management

[novel herald]

Times 6

[fiery hatch]

no i mean either one. citrome c is sellable to all v4 outpost

buck c is only on one v4 outpost

[analog elbow]

Pls don't make me do math

[novel herald]

Dis guy, 1 digit multiplication

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh

[novel herald]

Altho it's true, u can just sell buck c to 1 outpost, and buck A and battery to the rest

[fiery hatch]

oh wow we can fit in 6 lc and sc battery? ah 12 hc battery

[novel herald]

No need to be able to sell 1 to all

[novel herald]

Yes

[novel herald]

This line leaves me extra 60/min ferrium, 30/min amethyst, and 50/min orignium. While still fulfilling all outposts at max buff

[analog elbow]

Why are you making Blue and green too?

[novel herald]

To make enough for outposts while having extra ore income

[fiery hatch]

coz he can, also hes only doing 12 max

[novel herald]

18/min batt + buck will leave me with no ferrium

I like to have extra

[analog elbow]

Are you using meta transfer

[novel herald]

Yap

[jagged scroll]

Unless you want to make purple gear, you got no other use for ferrium

[novel herald]

I kno

[wispy hull]

when i am creating batteries, is there a way to set it up like that when production overshoots the surplus is getting stored?

[novel herald]

I just like having extra

Who knows I need it for sth

[fiery hatch]

protocol stash

[wispy hull]

cause when i do 2 batteries and a bank my concern is that stash gets too much and the electricity may become wobbly

[novel herald]

Wdym production overshoots? U put everything into depot right?

[wispy hull]

putting directly into batteries but it clogs

[fiery hatch]

yea its the 2 bank plus stash setup

[novel herald]

No

Don't

Why

[fiery hatch]

technically u wont clog

[wispy hull]

space issues

more like

i used up all bus spaces

[fiery hatch]

but stability issues means u might get less battery going to bank and crash your factory to a halt

[novel herald]

Including the main pac?

[fiery hatch]

for a max produced any battery line is enough for 4 banks

[novel herald]

U can use protocol stash, or put the thermal bank else where to use unloader there

[wispy hull]

if i were to set up a bus how many banks does one unloader take

[fiery hatch]

yea power is shared to all base in valley 4

[wispy hull]

one splitter into 3?

[novel herald]

1 unloader can supply up to 20 thermal banks

[fiery hatch]

unloader is too powerful, just put bank thats enough for your power need

[novel herald]

As it unloads 1 battery every 2 seconds, and thermal banks consume 1 battery every 40 seconds

[idle grove]

how should i plug 6 originium powders and 2 sandleaf powders from shredders to 3 grinders?

[wispy hull]

ah

[novel herald]

U in asia?

[idle grove]

yes

[novel herald]

Want my 3 ori cube grinder code?

[idle grove]

sure

[fiery hatch]

many many belt bridge XD

[idle grove]

yummy entangles spaghetti

[novel herald]

EFO01Ue36iiIu2OEo7Oa8

No unloader needed for sandleaf

U put sandleaf into the seed picking unit

So it only uses 6 unloader space instead of 8

[regal horizon]

"WELCOME TO CORE AIC!"

[idle grove]

i dont have xiranite pylon 💀

[fiery hatch]

lol

[novel herald]

Oh fk I put xiranite pylon?????

Fkkkkkk

I use dis for wuling

Wait lemme open endfield, I just share u my purple batt

[idle grove]

just a heads up how many spaghetti content will the HC battery setup has

[novel herald]

U like them straight or curly?

[idle grove]

minimize not a fan of dry spaghetti

wait do u mean u have 2 different Hc batt setup-

[heavy furnace]

head hurts monkey brian go where

[idle grove]

dear lord

[heavy furnace]

[novel herald]

EFO012O9A5516u8AeIOo

30x31

[fiery hatch]

the straight built HC battery isnt as complex, its just more wide coz it takes more unloader

[novel herald]

Not the best I can do, but width is minimized

Least unloader needed

[idle grove]

my setup is 19x27

[novel herald]

U need 10 unloaders bro

For it to produce 6/min

[fiery hatch]

6 ori unloader 4 ferrium unloader

[novel herald]

If u're not lookin for 6/min, I can modify it according to ur need

[idle grove]

well i used 6 unloaders
3 ori 2 ferrium 1 sandleaf

[novel herald]

Yee... but it's not producing 6/min no?

[fiery hatch]

yea it will work but not at max produce

not even half

[idle grove]

uhhhh yeah 3/min

[novel herald]

Uhh... u want 6/min? Or... it's good there?

[heavy furnace]

the factory must grow

[novel herald]

Not forcing u :/

[fiery hatch]

hes gonna need more XD

[novel herald]

As long as ur outposts are satisfied we all r good

[fiery hatch]

true. if it outputting, its working

[mellow iris]

rate my setup

[novel herald]

0

[novel herald]

1 seed picking unit can supply 2 planting units

And it can self sustain, u don't have to unload buckflower from ur pac

1 seed > 2 planting > back to the seed

[novel herald]

The rest r ok

[fiery hatch]

lol its so bad theres a seed picking and planter sleeping on the same line with 1 belt distance XD

[mellow iris]

updated it a bit

[novel herald]

Still same seed picking unit problem

[nova lodge]

ok, logging in now.
btw, use protocol space wherever you can.
and if you have energy to spare

[novel herald]

Why splitter for originium tho?

[fiery hatch]

also hes making carbon

[mellow iris]

so wait i need one more picking

then have the 2 picking supply a planting

but what do i do with the output from planting? do i just make 50/50 split back to aic and the other half go back to planters?

[mellow iris]

i was limited on output so i make one output and split the belt into 3 parts to fuel 3 stuff

[heavy furnace]

better have 40k reserved before something starts consuming it in the future

[nova lodge]

the idea you want to do for plants is:
planter: seedpicker : planter.

always do this, for the orientation.

[novel herald]

Output for planting usually are directly used by the production line like buck capsules. The rest can go back to aic

[mellow iris]

and for the batteries for example one batteri with one belt makes it backed up so i split it to 3 smaller belts and make it continously run

[fiery hatch]

this is the general setup for planters

[novel herald]

Oh I mean splitter for refiner and shredder, not the thermal banks. The thermal one is gud

[fiery hatch]

one planter directly feed the seed picker, the other one is for other uses

[nova lodge]

splitter for battery is fine, since 1 battery = 40 sec of run time, but better put the thermal banks to the edge of your AIC

[mellow iris]

THX

[nova lodge]

or you can just have both work and produce goods, it will still balance out.

[mellow iris]

limited output

[nova lodge]

gimme a moment, i can SS now.

[novel herald]

Ah I see"

[tropic gale]

Epstein/10

[novel herald]

It's gud then

[nova lodge]

here is an example

[novel herald]

Originium is not 40s iirc, it's lower

[novel herald]

I just figured out a number worse than 0

[analog elbow]

infinite power glitch

[mellow iris]

thanks

[fiery hatch]

lol thats still same output

[mortal plinth]

guys 🙁 i think my factory has a problem....

[mortal plinth]

how do i make this more efficient?

[novel herald]

So u're hiring consultants here?

[fiery hatch]

all u did is halves the output of both planters back to seed picker

[mortal plinth]

my factory isnt producing enough

what do i do?

[nova lodge]

i tested it, its 1 less, but save a lot more space for the plants.

[analog elbow]

Do i get to watch this for free? this should be a premium content

[heavy furnace]

can clearly fit more belts

[paper steeple]

are u just moving around the depot?

[novel herald]

First, u delete all those stuffs, u delete discord, then u delete endfield

[nova lodge]

also allows me to do dual layer stacking.
easilly reproducible blueprint in other bases.

[analog elbow]

not even a single space wasted. all used efficiently. PEAK FACTORY

[mortal plinth]

yeah they're moving in circles, but i need to wait for them to fill up

[idle grove]

so i somehow made this work

[paper steeple]

which pattern?

i mean ppl doing the pattern lately

[mortal plinth]

at some point some belts stop appearing if you got too many lmao

[novel herald]

U can erase 1 sandleaf shredder line

[mortal plinth]

its just circles. nothing fancy lol

[nova lodge]

you just need 1 output for sandleaf + shreeder, it will cover all 3 grinder needs

[analog elbow]

proof that it's so peak even the game couldn't comprehend it's peakness

[novel herald]

Only need 7 unloader here

[analog elbow]

truly out of this world

[marble yarrow]

kinda weird implementation but yeah

[paper steeple]

ur protected stash will be fill in a min
and clogged

[nova lodge]

something like this, so save a bit more space.
but yeah, don't put it into proctocol stash for this one if possible, since the amount of items is far more than the steel part side.

[mellow iris]

chat where can i find those ballon guys

[fiery hatch]

wow im amazed that he can get 2 sandleaf in that small area XD

[analog elbow]

i mean that's basic planting dupe

1 seed picker 2 planter

[novel herald]

Open map and find logos like "O"

[tropic gale]

[fiery hatch]

no i mean le noob dense setup XD

the planter ones is wasted overengineered

[tropic gale]

Map blue hotspot logo

[cobalt oriole]

Aight I’ve done the math, my Xiranite battery stock is sufficient to run on 5.75 stringes, net 3 batteries and 3 components for 87h without running out

If I start running low I swap back to net 6 batteries and 1.5 components so I can rebuild

[analog elbow]

yeah can't make everything at 100% efficiency

need more FORGE

[cobalt oriole]

Fr just one more would be enough

[paper steeple]

when we getting story missions?

[analog elbow]

Devs rage baiting people fr

[cobalt oriole]

Next month after Yvonne patch

[analog elbow]

Next patch

[novel herald]

U gonna set a timer for 87h? Damn dedication

[analog elbow]

i thought Yvonne was an old man but then it was

[sudden egret]

Probably in a month, after Yvonne banner. So 2 weeks Gilberta, 2 weeks Yvonne

[analog elbow]

.gyatt

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331256879673769995/RDT_20250121_0735356162116725094117539.png

[nova lodge]

AIC tech points? open your map, and look for this symbol:

[fiery hatch]

hey if he feels safe having 87hr timer its his choice XD

[marble yarrow]

better one. also removes your splitters and crossings

[paper steeple]

you have to visit all areas first

like all gray fog area

[fiery hatch]

yea this is better space

[cobalt oriole]

I swapped my V4 off export production of bottles and parts so I can rebuild my 18/min Buck A over there. So now my Wuling stringe is suboptimal (with import it runs at 12/min now it’s 5.75)

[nova lodge]

does it produces 8 leaf per proctocol transfer?
i did try a single planter b4....the rate was lesser.

[fiery hatch]

yuzu is overengineered af

[analog elbow]

Is that in wuling

[fiery hatch]

but still does same thing

[novel herald]

It's syringe right? The one u want to say? :/

[cobalt oriole]

This is also exactly 15x15 so it’s perfectly modular too

[marble yarrow]

well you and i are both outputting 2 belts into the stash.

[fiery hatch]

yours still produce 4 leaf yuzu, u split a 1/2sec plant output

[cobalt oriole]

No my setup requires manual export of ferrum parts and bottles from V4 to max Wuling stringe to 12/min. Without imports it’ll produce 5.75/min

[fiery hatch]

hes not adding 2 planter, hes halfed both planter, then combine it back to one belt

literally same thing but more belt

[young stag]

why dont yall feed them into a shredder first

[novel herald]

Guys, u realize u only need to produce enough to satisfy the outposts right? U guys r doing electrical engineering at this point

[young stag]

not like you have much use for sandleaf anyway

[marble yarrow]

well i dont do that. i just made a demonstration

[autumn estuary]

Sandleaf is the backbone of endgame factories😭

[young stag]

sandleaf in its tree form

[sudden egret]

Sandleaf is probably the most critical thing for an end-game factory

[autumn estuary]

You need sandleaf for the seed and to make a infinite source therefore infinite powder🤑

[heavy furnace]

When will convergers even have a use case

[fiery hatch]

literally the one pillar holding every factory

[sudden egret]

Their only use case is a niche situation where you want to combine packager lines into 1 loader line

[novel herald]

I'm using it to combine my 18/min buck cap A

[autumn estuary]

Kinda wish they had other plants doing smt more for the factory

[young stag]

converging low prod rate plants like hc

isk

[sudden egret]

beyond that, convergers serve no purpose

splitters only serve a purpose in splitting bats for thermal banks

bridges though, bridges are top-tier

[heavy furnace]

real

[autumn estuary]

True most conveyor function are useless accept junctions

[heavy furnace]

bridges my beloved

[spice tartan]

After carefully watching all facilities, I can conclude I need to manually ground my 300 of each rare plant myself 5 by 5

[young stag]

meh, barely use them

splitters however

[sudden egret]

What possible use could you have for splitters

[young stag]

thermal bank feeding

[autumn estuary]

Power maybe?

[sudden egret]

outsdide of thermal banks

I've already mentioned those as the singular use

[autumn estuary]

Cant ya just directly attached the battery outlet to the packaging?

[nova lodge]

yeah, it should be the same, but upon further test, there were some minor differences (but still workable output) :
for your setup (7-8 leaf):

[fiery hatch]

to use the whole input port xD

[nova lodge]

for mine (9-10 leafs):

i can confirm that there are some benefits to adding convergers, but its pretty minor.

[young stag]

thermal banks are the real backbone though

[grave wedge]

Guys I’m tryna make a Blue battery Farm but something is wrong here I’m not able to figure it out

[autumn estuary]

Might wanna process it into powder

Saves space

[tropic gale]

Bridge?

[sudden egret]

You''re only inputting 1 line of each

[novel herald]

Is dat a splitter before packaging unit? What for?

[young stag]

you do know this doesnt magically double the input rate right

[autumn estuary]

I thimk you need more powder

[heavy furnace]

not processing to powder saves unloaders

[cobalt oriole]

To make your setup modular

My Wuling can produce batteries:components in 6:3, 9:1.5 & 12:0 thanks to splitters

[marble yarrow]

so your 2 belts are faster than mine?

[young stag]

do 3 orig lines and 2 part lines

[sudden egret]

You have it set up to use two lines, but you''re only confusing yourself. Your belts are combining int o 1 belts worth of capacity. So you think you're using 4 lines, but only 2

[young stag]

100% uptime

[nova lodge]

slightly faster it seems, about 2 more per protocol stash transfer.
so shipping things from both planters does indeed help.

[autumn estuary]

Chen tech ah build

[grave wedge]

Ohhhh

[sudden egret]

I did that once, then dropped that. Didn't care enough when I had almost 30k parts

[novel herald]

Ohhhh u're combining 3 outputs into 1 line? No it won't work. The belt moves items at 1 item per 2 seconds. U need other belts

[marble yarrow]

how can i get that conveyor belt? mine is slow

[grave wedge]

Got it

Now I understand

[nova lodge]

hey now lel, we are all using the same thing lol.

[novel herald]

[grave wedge]

Thanks guys

[autumn estuary]

Kinda wish we can upgrade the conveyors

[sudden egret]

Belts have a fixed rate. Splitters and convergers don't change that rate

[autumn estuary]

Its sooo slow😭

[sudden egret]

and bridges don't add a 2nd layer

[marble yarrow]

but you said your sandleaf planter produces more

[cobalt oriole]

Components, not parts. I still need around 60k more to max just 1 team with garuantee. I’m at 24k rn

[nova lodge]

ah don't worry, i just make this one separate so that its easier to adjust production on other areas.
i do convert it to powder directly on some other areas.

[sudden egret]

components is what I meant, but yeah

[heavy furnace]

me when 1.0/sec belt but still 0.5/sec convergers:

[fiery hatch]

i guess youre cheezing the 2 planter outputs, hence why you have more stored per transfer

[young stag]

belts are .5/s

[nova lodge]

it produces more since i connected both planters in 1 conveyer line.

[heavy furnace]

I know.

[marble yarrow]

holy no way??

[cobalt oriole]

You should only converge outputs from 10s units

[marble yarrow]

you mean you can produce more than this?

[nova lodge]

i like your build, its cleaner, but somehow, its slower based on results shown.

[cobalt oriole]

That’s not how it works

[tropic gale]

[heavy furnace]

you sure those planters aint clogging up?

[marble yarrow]

SLOWER LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[nova lodge]

don't ask me lel, the result had shown ;v

[young stag]

is this not the same image

[fiery hatch]

yep

[vast iron]

just check the stats in the AIC page

[novel herald]

Screenshot

[marble yarrow]

thats my setup and they say its slower LMAOOO

[nova lodge]

mine.

overengineered indeed.

[sudden egret]

Wtf

Overengineered for no reason

and takes more space

for same result

[novel herald]

Why 2 output from planting?

[marble yarrow]

OMG best planter setup that produces more than 30/min per belt

[cobalt oriole]

Bro your protocol space is suffering

[fiery hatch]

lol now the rest of the engineer are gonna rip apart ur setup lol

[vast iron]

optimisers fever dream

[novel herald]

Sarcasm at its' finest

[heavy furnace]

nvm that

[young stag]

what is he cooking ❓

[nova lodge]

looks fine to me.

[young stag]

that splittter is spitting 1/3rd out

[marble yarrow]

fastest planter in existence

[cobalt oriole]

Is it even a perfect square blueprint?

[novel herald]

An aic report screenshot would clear all misunderstandings here

[vast iron]

just check the stats on the protocol page…

[fiery hatch]

true

[tropic gale]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-that-who-are-they-peppa-pig-the-dude-nobody-invited-gif-7795800917251558454

[oak wasp]

what would the highest stock bill production factory be in wuling? something like one yazhen syringe and 2 battery lines?

[vast iron]

i doubt that pylon can power the entire build either

[marble yarrow]

yes that is

[vast iron]

[mellow iris]

thx

[sudden egret]

A planter can only eat 1 seed per 2 seconds, and output 1 plant per 2 seconds. A seeder can only eat 1 plant per 2 second, and output 2 seeds per 2 seconds. Mathematics says it'''s impossible to create a settup faster

[heavy furnace]

Don't let chen cook on the factory

[novel herald]

Here's how I see it, that's 2 belts going into protocol stash. The belts move items at a rate of 1 item/2 seconds. So into the protocol stash, u have 60/min. Cannot be more than that

[nova lodge]

horrendous i know, since i did mix and match builds for sandleaf into heal item production as well.
never goes beyond yield.

[heavy furnace]

somethings underfed

[sudden egret]

So I'm gonna be real with you

you fucking suck at ratios

[fiery hatch]

XD

[heavy furnace]

[novel herald]

U gotta delete same sandleaf first to see the real yield

[fiery hatch]

go boys grill em XD

[sudden egret]

You're at almost 1/3 capacify with sandleaf

[novel herald]

Or it'll be always the same as the usage

[marble yarrow]

i await the day they realize

[cobalt oriole]

Nah this is actually slower lmao. Wtf I can’t even do the fractions for the splitter and converter belt in my head cos it’s so extra

[cedar shell]

that isn't a splitter

it's a bridge

[novel herald]

Probably the voice of everyone here

[fiery hatch]

his measurement is on protocol transfer XD

[vast iron]

it should be the same output speed but sometimes mergers behave weirdly

[young stag]

no its not

[vast iron]

and those are belt crossings btw

[heavy furnace]

Art

[young stag]

bridge looks different

[nova lodge]

haru suggested build:

[young stag]

ok so thats a converger

[nova lodge]

result coming in:

[marble yarrow]

you missed something

[novel herald]

Dat converger will let 30 sandleaf per min into protocol stash, can't be higher than that

[fiery hatch]

lololololwrong

[sudden egret]

This is good, but the advantage is that you can shrink it by 1 line

[vast iron]

remove the extra conveyers from output to seeder

its useless

[marble yarrow]

i didnt built double output into protocol

[novel herald]

Why 2 output from the planter bro

[fiery hatch]

yea XD

[cobalt oriole]

Oh god he’s splitting a 1 output unit then merging it with another split unit to form 1 final output wtf.

[young stag]

why do you need 4

[heavy furnace]

[young stag]

its redundant

[marble yarrow]

omg

[nova lodge]

OH LMAO, you are right!

[marble yarrow]

i didnt built those extra

[novel herald]

U built 2 output from that left planter?

[sudden egret]

Holy fuck I'm gonna crash out, planters and seeders are NOT this hard

[vast iron]

• it will cause clogging

[nova lodge]

thanks for pointing it out.

[marble yarrow]

nope??

[cobalt oriole]

Bro. It’s still wrong

[fiery hatch]

he wants to argue hes faster by making other's blueprint run at half speed XD

[worn knoll]

does anyone know why this doesnt work

[marble yarrow]

DONT MISINFO ME LMAO

[vast iron]

you overestimate gacha player intelligence

[novel herald]

That's what he was saying

[marble yarrow]

ITS NOT SAME???

[fiery hatch]

probably splitter facing wrong way

[novel herald]

Close discord bro, we can handle this

[nova lodge]

ok, thanks for pointing it out, yeah, production rate is the same.
10 per transfer

[cobalt oriole]

@nova lodge DO NOT STOP UNTIL THE FINAL SIZE IS 15x15 MY EYES

[cedar shell]

You're so confidentally wrong lmao

[nova lodge]

mine sure was overengineered lel
same result, more annoying setup.

[worn knoll]

its not, the sprinklers at the end work but start and middle dont work

[sudden egret]

This is fucking elementary grade math. If someone cannot do this, they need to go back to school and get a fuckin GED

Cause holy fuck

[young stag]

top down view looks different

[fiery hatch]

then u using bridge, not splitter

[novel herald]

Lol magical belts out of nowhere I guess

[vast iron]

You can see the item path

[novel herald]

Bold of u to assume gacha players graduated elementary

[vast iron]

like its a straight line in ss

[young stag]

not enough water ig

[low obsidian]

[novel herald]

Fun stuffs here