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LMAOOO
By pro what do you mean by that
"played pro"
Fusion signed Mano and Belosrea over Sado for two years now why on earth would you trust that management?
Contenders? OD?
GUYS I WILL HAVE POKEMANPAT BANNED WITH MY SS
I have the power
Wow such an insult so original /s
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he really rolled a 0 on the dice role of intelligence
He knows I can get him banned
hey you two argue in a different channel please
thats the best u could come up with
From any server
sheeeesh
a little small in the brain
fk off
unavailable*
And blocked
Nice
I am a Fusion fan and at least i'm honest enough to say their best possible season is 11th overall
Iβm gonna get him banned now, I still have the ss of him saying the r word to me
anyways
pokemonpat block speedrun any%
you could try shutting up
there's like 6 hitscans better than carpe
still copium
unlucky
maybe 10th if Spark shit the bed, which they will not
carpe will be benched this season
MN3 clears everyone except LIP ππππππ
11th best case scenario
Diem > MN3
sorry not sorry
Danteh>mn3
this is in the case that MN3 Zest Fury starts full time and FiXa Aimgod perform at a semi servicable level like Closer Bebe on 2021 Justice
MN3, Mer1t, Proper, Kai, Lip, Fits, Leave, Shy all better than carpe
And ans
And Ans Kilo probably will be better than Carpe as well
And striker
last season id put LIP Fits Birdring and Kai above Carpe on hard hs, Carpe had 2 middling stages when fusion were also hard struggling and he was forced onto Tracer and Sombra, once the playoffs hit again he was kinda fucking, and if you dont think Carpe was top tier in the may melee then you literally didnt watch APAC or you have some underlying selection bias
you are unfortunately wrong
I would also put happy on that list
thank god you have something you can pass off as a brain
Striker pops outside of widow
happy is week 1 god only
happy will diff carpe if they played in week 1 but sadly carpe is apac!
than carpe
So ignoring last season got it
imo
you are unfortunately wrong
Boston yesterday made me a little excited that striker was performing better
and Shy and Leave and sometimes Happy
happy in week 1 was literally just carried by playing against dogwater opponents who failed to contest space and the angles he was taking
pineapple, alphayi, kilo, ans probably all better
Alphayi is a fdps
alphayi is not a hitscan
only hitscan that carpe diffs in the top 10 is guriyo and edison
i got misinformed
i will take carpe over ans
information difference mb
Guri-Joke and Midison are not top 10
their teams are top 10
kilo will be better in the future
real
but as individuals i dont even rate them top 15
yeah no they are worse than mid in their roles
the 16 year old anime pfp really out here saying i dont know what im talking about and then not even knowing the roles of the players hes talking about
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ur embarrassing urself bro π
how can you say Dallas are top 10 when they are behind London and Paris in the standings? 
who was the winner of 2020 contendors season 2 china
you want to insult profile pictures
i ahve the best pfp here
you have amongus in your description
that rat is hitting a fat joint
yeah cool but also fuck off
maybe you should shut the fuck up TBH
you have a sigmagrindset meme
@hot onyx duo
this is for eSports discussion only thank you sir
common w take
TBH it is clear you have no brain
i do
you wish you could be me
TBH
its okay though
many people do
Rat pfp enjoyers π€
i do not blame you
This kid malding so badly that he has to make fun of other people's pfp
dont london have the same record as dallas
i know
hell yeah let me do the dishes and i'll enable you to pop off with my sombra
he is extremely sad
ty
as a human
tbh id rather be a starving kid working in a sweatshop in asia producing the stained H&M clothes your fat ass is sweating in rn
look at the infographic
he probably doesn't even know who belosrea is!
middling MT player in t2
unlucky that i would knock you out IRL
arent both teams 0-3
played on t1
so would i, it beats being a Fusion fan coping that their team is somehow top 10 with Belosrea FiXa Aimgod
real question
fuck you he's slow I'm answering myself
no!
it's winz
dont
im not looking that up, 2019 china was the most irrelevant fuckign region
xenophobic
if you were watching that shit then you either had no life
or you were just a weirdo
seethe
you have no valid opinion then
cope harder
it was lge huya
south america australia existed
cry
runnerup was t1w
so cool! ty for telling us ur irl reaction to drama happening in ED! @fathom igloo
ah yes i have no right to an opinion because i didnt watch an irrelevant ass region in 2019 cus i was busy getting more hoes than u will ever have in ur entire life bitchass
are you danish by any chance? because it sounds like you are from copenseethen
real
norwegian actually
haker is with nohill now
haker is the carry of the la valiant
Irrelevant fucking country
This kid is racist lmao
unbeatable team
top 5 team
how the fuck
Oh guys I'm "Norwegian" pepelaugh
Fusion fans lose their minds and become big balls of raw copium at the sight of this image alone https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1518590657681629195
New Tank in townπ‘οΈ
Welcome to the squad, @OW_Belosrea!
#FusionFighting #FusionClutch
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team cc got 2nd in 2019 s1?
s2
where are u from then
I already said t1w was s1
mmmm that's a very original insult you got there do you want to do a re-take because i feel like, you can do better
ddint see text
im not gonna re-do it im busy fuckin
sixfeet for owl
is your favorite team shock/a Texas team?
cracked flex support
because you sound obnoxious
hes sooo bad lmao
damn imagine fucking and you are also texting on some overwatch server
@willow tartan where are u from
multitasking
its what i do
china (people's republic of)
sixfeet > landon easily
TBH
hes a fusion fan
sign him
i pity
he is a canadian citizen
jackerco where do you have philly in your power rankings and why
teehee
based
unfortunate carpe fan
@Fusion You are a tragic team and a tragic org and I hate that Im a fan of this team.
All you had to do was just not drop a map and you're in.
Just don't drop a map to VALIANT
VALIANT.
ig we're praying that Charge beat Seoul but it wont happen and you wouldnt beat spark anyways
still proud of that tweet
mn3 zest are good and carry everything else, much better than a lot of NA teams
I mean deserved honestly
I am cultured and didn't do any
How they lose to fucking valiant
hahahahahaaaa
it was a fucking tragedy
worst part is that fucking nyxl got in over them because of it and then upset spark
and they're gonna be winless everytime they field Belosrea
wrong
he doesnt have fusion last, he has them above chengdu: https://twitter.com/JackercoYT/status/1522273840952393728
yall just dont see it
in the rein meta belosrea is the 5th best starter in apac
wtf
why would they ever start him when they have greats like fury
these power rankings are so bad lmaoo
ah yes better than Rio and Sasin main tank, what a prestigious achievement
Toronto top 3 
based titans placement
you wouldnt get it without knowing the context
yall hate me for being a fusion fan
but i have been outcast from the fusion fanbase
by 'carpe take my water'
on twitter
careful with your edge
seicoe is unfortunately a bad player
seicoeszn
i am a fusion fan since season 1 and i am ashamed of this below average roster they have built
masaa carries
Aint no way they really put Toronto above Shock and ATL and Houston and Justice
Fusion fans expecting to not be cucked every year as if their org isnβt owned by COMCAST 
I feel like we should all agree to let fusion win one stage
CUMCAST π
Fusion 8th Paris 11th??
I am a chengdu fan and am proud of the fact that we signed the best zarya in the league and not proud of dropping apr1ta and farway
paris 11 is lunacy
now you have to start good ol jinmu again
When did Chengdu sign Void?
I lived through Season 1 and 2 of Shanghai 
riven > void
that outlaws roster is fucking garbage
best team experience
they won one match against dallas frauds
Fusion above Hunters
Waking up every day knowing your team will be shit
I'm sorry what
mfs are lucky they can bench piggy for danteh
Next season you win a stage but immediately after you go back to the shadow realm 
who in their right minds
paris 18th is the correct placement
puts Hunters below Fusion
my brother in christ, u have glads as the 2nd best team in the league when they have 2 washed up valorant players
u have houston 9 places below dallas, what a tragedy of a person
Jinmu doubters man
what were ur rankings
theres no way you had houston above dallas going into the season
I didn't yeah, but not 9 places below dallas
I had Houston having a 5 map series losing to Dallas but yeah
mid1t
imagine perma starting for 3 stages and sharing playtime for the other 2 and people still doubt you in a permenant starting position
I had houston 8 places below dallas
i had them like 7 places below dallas
danteh is worthless and na so that pulls him down even more
you're losing credibility
mer1t is not mid
Drop the Toronto argument 
lastro sucks yes
what credibility
exactly
drop ur preseason rankings
actually giving Fusion fans a bad name
i wannas ee em
he couldn't name the winner of 2019 contenders china season 1
isn't eligible for credibility
LGE Huya right?
this is a good take, the rest of your takes r bad
absolute banger
blg and lgd 3-4
Cope, danteh goated
Diffed fearless on his own role smh
Danteh is a better tracer than Carpe
name drop the winner of 2019 contenders south america season 1
finish
oh shit yeah
I cannot
wow
but
no credibility
can you
sorry i got distracted by the deluded Fusion fan'
i did not make any unfortunately
thoughts on Belosrea?
as long as he doesnt play im fine
thoughts on Belosrea getting playtime in a hard winston meta?
ok then name the UP trial flex support that was with them for a month back in the day @feral wing
unfortunately however we are in a monkey meta it seems
although it may be moving towards doom
this question is easy
alongside Fate Smurf GA9A Guxue
sirmajed
da goat
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yes
dumbass
sirmajed was never on UP?
Ultra Prime
find sirmajed
nah this shit too easy bro π
(impossible)
Mike wtf is your name
although
I'll give you half credit for bringing up uprising academy
sixfeet was on that team too
goated flex support
although is on toronto dumbo π€£
homie just called me a fucking elephant
built like one at least
I still want to know the Toronto top 3 argument
I was literally hospitalized for being unable to digest food properly and being 74 pounds 3 years ago
at like
6 feet tall
pow body
real
^
twilight ch0r0ng is goated af, heesu is nuts, muze is underrated as hell and although imo has a lot of potential to be very good - i also trust KDG and Mobydik
the other teams in NA imo going into the season seemed to also have holes or areas they were lacking in and so toronto was my 'hot take' of the off-season which seems to not be paying off
thats it
nothing more rly
also its a conversation starter
i enjoy discussing toronto
I agree that Toronto should be good but I had no expectations early season
My apparently hot take was putting Atlanta way up yop
seems to maybe be paying off
although i question if its just an early lead in a newly developing meta
I love how jackerco thinks sirmajed played in chinese contenders
no matter what i fucking despise watching doom gameplay so i hope they and houston flop just so i dont have to watch it
really smart guy
i love how its still fucking working
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The crazy thing about Atlanta is that the players get rated good but they still always get underrated
besides gator
the roster hole of atlanta
Kai never gotten role star btw
idk going into the season i wasnt particularly high on the atlanta dps but nero seems to have stepped up a lot
and uv is fucking nuts
Gator isnβt even a bad player !? He has a good Orisa and rein which Iβll take over a lot of the other main tankers
Defiant takes are good but there's no way they're succeeding with the pathetic excuse of a professional player known as "Finale" in the starting lineup
roster hole
sure
not gonna argue that
based
finale > decay btw
defraud
Toronto have hotba
heesu although not bad
GOATba
Godba better than Fury
is just bad
one a tier and one b tier
muze hotba is good
above average*
chorong twilight is good
No
which dps lines are they above
Although is not low B tier if you watched him in contenders
based take
no no he's right
although is a tier
Very excited to see Atlanta further progress
Also excited to see Florida drop the nerves
im very excited to see doom get removed from the game
Those are my two teams I think people should watch in NA
He won't lmao
He's not even that hard to beat
whos right?
also 90% damage reduction is a fucking warcrime
Doom is still kinda annoying to play into ngl but thatβs also bc qp into owl players is 
Loading into a ow2 game after a long day just to get bodied by hawk
he was very good for the first map and first half of Midtown
but then toronto just fell apart
lost momentum and just gave up tempo control
although is the A tier player
looked unsure of themselves
and what they wanted to do
etc
also how they lost push was so dumb
yeah i know
the bot standing still for 7 seconds straight due to getting the checkpoint
based
heesu only good against decay
like i get that being a thing in normal time
London Titans Boston Mayhem Valiant Charge NYXL Justice (outside of double hs) and possibly Dallas
Owl players I have bodied - Kellan
Owl players that have bodied me - Hawk, UV, Speedily
Coincidence?
only saying Dallas because im low af on Edison Guriyo and Doha off sombra
yes probably
based
I disagree for justice nyxl dallas
I take doha sparkle
but
and Defiant with Although is more well rounded
I think Edison should be good in my head but it hasnβt happened yet
Heesu = Happy Decay
Although > Ass Ass in
justice I think assassin is B tier and Decay A+ so it's better than heesu B although A
Heesu B+
I think Justice should trade Mag to Houston π€
heesu I only rate on sombra
Although A-/B+
his hanzo is B+ or A-
Decay A+ because flexibility
Assassin B- at best
assassin is B
B-
finish the dishes
all of u are underestimating the power of backbone
assassin is average
the real goat
B is average imo
because both underperformed
with a horrible backline and coaching staff
I think Backbone has better heroes
or B-
seek immediate treatment
B
lol
London is a strange roster, they have some decently good players but they also have some other players
fury apologist
Why canβt they just suck it up and stop being full eu
tell me you didn't watch Washington Justice 2021 matches without telling me you didn't watch Washington Justice 2021 matches
Fury had a bad year least year but I trust him to be able to turn it around
fury was average but then lige coluge showed up so he is still average solely because he'll do slightly better with fusion coaching
i agree
i was going to respond with a gif to that but i dont think i have embed perms
Levy, Fury or Clestyn Attack F4ZE Gargoyle or Max?
just imagine a gif of a rat taking a shower in a sink
i would take fury over gargoyle and f4ze and max
thanks
which off tank do you personally aquire for Seoul given the chance?
atm
goat
clestyn
followed by toyou
from this bunch i cant have fury so id probably take clestyn
based
fuck no
toyou > fury
based
on the assumption that you can buyout Fury
would you take him over Clestyn?
sans
in a world with infinite money?
finish the fucking dishes
Ngl when I watched Korean contenders I was not looking at off tank players at all
yes
duo
they're done
duo
owl viewing party
Clestyn is still better than Fury
and even then
if you rate Fury
i rate fury's past accomplishments
why spend the money on him
smurf is the duo
when you're clearly budgeting
and i think he's the type of palyer that can turn it around
the gap in skill between Fury and Clestyn is not bigger than the gap with Sado and Belosrea
chinese philly
fury had one year where he wasnt the god he has been all prior seasons, that doesnt mean hes washed, he had to play with a backline of Closer and Bebe that refused to do their jobs while Mag was going apeshit aggro in the frontline
nah
Also if any team is gonna make you look bad itβs Justice
not giving him another chance to redeem himself after a season playing with that is just dumb af
decision wise as well
I give players who escape Justice a pass
but i believe he can turn it around
real, justice ruins players
in that sense im glad they got defraud
Although I do think Justice are a little promising this year in event of a meta shift
If brig is hard meta I see promise
Dat opener boy knows how to play that hero
lol
last year
none of them could play brig
so this year
they look for brig player
how are we living in a world with anamo and opener in owl
i still question everyday how anamo found himself another team
its a fuckin mystery
hes a scam artist
I thought his Lucio was pretty shit the first maps but once he got more comfortable his Lucio looked a lot more passable
Which still wasnβt great but they werenβt losing off of him at least
kariv is also a historical scam artist
oh yeah cant forget ado that mf managed to sneak his way onto 2 teams after season 1 and he never did shit for either one
I wont lie to yall i think uv has been the best flex all weekend
He should be ultraviolent not ultraviolet
Im not even trying to be biased as a reign fan
i respect the grind
But after watching the vods
everytime he goes back to contenders he looks very good
Its disgusting
Ado is still playing?
blackmail
yeah
yes for both replies
What he did to new york we actually need a integrity division and mental counceling for them
myunboung needs one especially
It got past the point of disrespect 
shu is just a different man
He has 1 more game lets just say houston was on fire 
Hes going off against opener he should be win
Ngl i feel like todays game
Games
Set the face for whos mid field
And carries pretty damn hard
But yes its a little early but the top teams are probably shock reign maybe houston we will see how they deal with finale
outlaws looks good
they will be dominant in the first stage
the real question is
if they can keep this up for the rest of the season
If doom remains prevelant yes but as tanks get stronger and probably reworked thats when piggy will have to step upβ¦.unless danteh is once again banned from playing dps
hawk making the doom look way better than I thought it was
need to go back and look at some of those atl games to see if it was another fuel-style throw or if I missed something about him
He isnβt
Hawk is basically playing doom like hes a dps hero 
From watching multiple hours of OWL
I have half the points needed for one skin
so far ive gotten around 100 tokens
im pretty sure ive gotten like 200 tokens because i dont remember it being this high
someone is slacking @hot onyx
Justice don't play till 6 (or some time before that)
Also can I just say how good this years broadcasters are so far
Still missin the meme power of bren and sideshow but yea its decent
I feel like legday and lemon have taken over that role
Taken it over poorly
Lemon was pretty funny
real
Legday as always was asleep at the wheel
if lemon and legday are casting
i switch to chinese
broadcast
and mute the en one
my entire team is throwing
bilingual baby
Here we go again this happened last year with Vikki
mike needs 2 get off widow
sans had 1 emp and died while casting
vikki was fine, she didn't tell that many bad jokes
lemon did
they tell the same zoomer jokes for like an entire match
and go off on random tangents
i feel like its funny yeah but just not the same as sideshow and bren
It is not funny
sometimes it can be cause i laugh at stupid things
I really really like Jaws on PbP
Personally
I normally listen to co streams but I do enjoy listening to Jaws
I just have that guy blocked cause he's a jerk to me
When I talk in this channel I turn off my thoughts and feelings
didnt ask
not sure who u mean
@north relic thoughts on the top of NA?
Jazzy I think it might be forgokdking I have both of them blocked cause of things from the past from both of them
Aka getting me banned from servers
At least the way this server works is unless you been a real bad shithead out of server stuff doesnβt matter
Just donβt bring it here
yessir
That's why Iblocked them lmao they always would bombard my DMs and make fun of how I looked
He is one of the worst dps to be in overleague
Idk any context but just block people and should be chill
Wasn't he on Washington
Ado was a dps player for sure
Yes and he was benched for stratus(bad player)
I disagree but
appearance is very low hanging fruit
i meant right now
Stratus wasn't bad
Stratus was mid
Him and Corey and stratus we're really good
stratus was good at 3 heroes
thats why they moved to valorant
he was bottom 3
Better then ttuba
Character development
they were both overhyped because they did well when 2-2-2 ccame in
Then they got Decay and JJANU
not good
not top 3 hitscan
how would u rate opener yesterday
good is a strong word
I wish jjanu was on a team
IDK i only watched the last 2 maps
And happy farmed
ah
So hard to tell
Corey was very good TF
and good the rest
stratus was an A tier mei, B tier pharah, C tier genji/doom and F tier everything else
Krillwn looked meh
krillin matched twilight?
chorong diffed opener but
True
yes
now
twilight didnt have a great game
krillin is probably not twilight tier
Mag tank differential
whenever mag was in justice tank gapped
whenever he wasnβt in justice didnβt tank gap
simple
how good did heesang look
?
Curious π§
in the last season on talon
mag szn believer?
do u think heesang is s tier
phenomenal flex dps
Me when I believe in mag: 
top 5 tracer owl
probably
no edison?
haker
#GLADSSWEEP
only player that matched proper in contendors tho
thats what i meant
on the tracer?
on tracer apr1ta
apr1ta never went against proper
off tracer apr1ta was just worse
he was still even with proper on tracer
Thoughts on Brig Zen Opener Vigilante
Apr1ta so good thatβs why they didnβt drop jinmu instead of him
Opener looked good
JinMu is cheaper
^
Heesang is on O2 Blast, and O2 blast is Shock academy team... Proper Heesang DPS line next year? Cracked af
Chorong is so much better than opener
yes this
Its not even funny
lastro looked better than chiyo
I agree
But somehow people are saying opener is better
academy team doesnt immediately equal on the team but maybe
chorong is better but
opener szn
If this was ow 1
how do academy teams work?
Ok
but also
chorong >> opener
that said
opener doesnβt look bottom 5
honestly
chaser and blg > talon last year
heesang chorong vigilante gap but
chaser blg better
Tendies, then promoted if they pop off or coordinate with the team or if they go for other teams
It's kinda hard to get promoted from tendies to owl
Potential it's here, but then I remember fl0w3r and the the copium
Flow3r was awful in conteders lol
Got outperformed by mangachu
Fl0w3r was popping on early days of contenders, no cap
Peak was OWWC
Then everything went downhill
yeah in season zero
thats nyxl having shit coaches
It was more financial issues
i swear imt was hired by london to sabatage nyxl
I really want to see xzi play
true
yes
sad to think that Shock is eventually going to have a Heesang Proper dps duo
Sado beter
no need for CH0R0NG with the goat Lastro
FunnyLastro
unbeatable
dps line
unironically
not even trolling
heesang is just pelican
with a better tracer
worse echo
Mano
or Spectra
So far coluge has been done it well, just so many sleeps on him lol
Weird primals tho
praying heesang goes somewhere other than shock π
imagine fleta retires and goes to shd
why
:(
heesang 2 shock
ezpz
Agree
grand finals win
even tho I love a few of shock's players I just can't root for them
there is no reason for me not to it's just natural
s9mm on his 3 plays can find another team
me too, Shock don't deserve it
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it isnt
prime profit birdring
betta
and if fleta
never washed
lip fleta
also da goat
IDK him going to shock costed titans their recent match
EQO Snillo when Carpe had a break in S1 Stage 3 vs Valiant was better
benched the shitter for real players fr fr
still better than Seicoe the zoning blade master
but
S9mm hasn't taken Uprising to 5 maps yet
with Skairipa as his flex support
Mr Skai "forces moira with a genji tracer comp due to lack of mechanical skill" Ripa
He was a crutch
wait i'm being baited 
inting is better than invisibility
he took a solid 5 seconds to use his coal in a team fight where he had to pop it as soon as he gained it
It isnβt
Saa and tac
Kind of inted
On that widow map
not really
They did
Disagree
where is your contract
Iβm too young
contendies is available
if you're better than Masaa and Dridro you're better than the shitters in NA or EU contenders
Iβm too young
you're never too young to go to college
pretty sure college is available for 16 at least
they don't have minimum application ages
how old is sugerfree
Patiphan was 15 on owwc
Only if youβre not planning on travelling to Korea for the rest of your life
i am