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autumn basalt
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erster

keen aurora
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... im bronze

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I was lucky

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also there was no zarya grav or halt

sand violet
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kdg didnt want beast

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afaik, that was toronto management who re-signed him

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but kdg wants to stay with toronto so he has no choice but to accept it

hasty sable
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nobody is talking about moth

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rip

sand violet
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well whats there to talk about

hasty sable
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idk

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just rip shock really

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I mean i was kind of expecting him to leave but no to the glads

silk frost
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like who do Shock pick up now

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there's almost 0 good main supports available

plush bridge
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boink

hasty sable
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I mean if Philly is dumb funnyastro

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maybe shock is trying to go full Korean idk

tidal ridge
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FREE KDG

earnest leaf
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no reason for shock to go full korean, unless they want to save money

silk frost
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main support is the worst role for koreans

earnest leaf
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But I don't see them dropping super

hasty sable
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yeah

silk frost
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who would they pick up that can even come close to Moth

tidal ridge
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i want super to go to glads since space and moth are there

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but he weont

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wont

silk frost
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Super to Houston with Boink

earnest leaf
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well glads have muze

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and super would be an expensive mf

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moth was already probably pricy

tidal ridge
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and shock had smurf

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and super still played backup

hasty sable
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hog

silk frost
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Super is the best rein by far on Shock

next mesa
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super is literally captain

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my guy

silk frost
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doesn't mean he doesn't get traded tho

tidal ridge
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doesnt mean he cant leave

earnest leaf
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Super leaving shock is as likely as carpe leaving philly

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imo

silk frost
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I guess

hasty sable
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imagine Muze gets traded to shock for super

next mesa
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yeah I agree

earnest leaf
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last role shock needs is MT

next mesa
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why would they need muze

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an unprovent talent in owl

earnest leaf
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they straight up can't upgrade MT

next mesa
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or the

hasty sable
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idk I said imagine

next mesa
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*insert super copypasta

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2 time owl champion

hasty sable
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I hope glads don't mess up muze like they did with roar

next mesa
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that's just roar being bad

hasty sable
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well he was pretty good

weak bolt
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Only way I could see Super leaving is if he quit to join the Desk or something and built his stream

hasty sable
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yeah

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I could see agilities going to the spitfire

next mesa
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isn't he rumoured for titans

raw ermine
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yeah

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and shockwave was rumoured to spitfire

hasty sable
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oh wait really

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then nevermind

weak bolt
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Shockwave to Spitifre looked pretty heavily denied yesterdy by GGBench

vagrant jacinth
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Idk how I feel about shockwave to London

hasty sable
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he's good but im excited about kellex coming back

earnest leaf
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also im37 to boston is confirmed

hasty sable
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wow

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speed runner is back

keen aurora
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wasnt he always on boston

earnest leaf
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their academy team I think

weak bolt
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He was on Defiant before in OWL I think, then Boston Academy most recently

keen aurora
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hm ok

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wasnt mangachu on nyxl academy team

hasty sable
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heah

raw ermine
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yeah

vagrant jacinth
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If soon ends up at London, I'd go wild

hasty sable
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maybe he gets signed back to valiant idk

keen aurora
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s4 taking a break

hasty sable
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wait who is s4

limber pine
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surefour

shell forum
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yeah

hasty sable
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oh thx

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idk why philly released ivy and sado

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sado I kind of get but ivy was so good

weak bolt
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Depends if they have someone coming up

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They may be signing Libero or Rascal, who knows

hasty sable
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if they do that would be insane

shell forum
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sado was really good this season

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but yeah i kinda understand why too

hasty sable
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yeah i don't think that mano can replace sado, sad was just better

shell forum
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yeah, people really had a 180 with sado

hasty sable
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yeah

shell forum
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shit talked him and just turned around like they cared

keen aurora
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liberos gone???

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crap

hasty sable
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wait what

shell forum
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everyones gone

hasty sable
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noooooooooooooooooooo

keen aurora
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FUDGE

next mesa
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wtf

weak bolt
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He isn't yet, but NYXL havent extended his contract

next mesa
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I dont see it

hasty sable
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oh

shell forum
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tbh moth to glads is a p good trade

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still hurts though

hasty sable
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I feel sad for fury, he was doing so good then they just release him like WTF

shell forum
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fr

hasty sable
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no offense to Poko but there is no way he can replace fury love Poko but no where near as good

raw ermine
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yep

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here we go

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British Hurricanes become London spitfire

trail perch
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The western coaches gave it away

next mesa
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its cute that they think they can be in grand finals

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we shall see

trail perch
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They def can win it all

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Have you seen what they did to all of eu contenders?

next mesa
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they cant even win gauntlet

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lol

trail perch
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Lets see

next mesa
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wait

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they weren't invite

trail perch
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Yes they where, they're in the EU bracket

raw ermine
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wait

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if they get promoted

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they can't possibly win gauntlet

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omg

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this is sad

weak bolt
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It may be that they keep BH together to run Gauntlet and then move up

trail perch
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Probably

weak bolt
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Reprize/Commanderx could be starting to sort the rest of the roster, as not all of BH can be promoted

next mesa
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@balmy wolf stop

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Im looking at the participants I just dont see it

tropic herald
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Reprize Pog

trail perch
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thats 2019

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Not 2020

next mesa
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oh, yeah

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that's ongoing isn't it

vagrant jacinth
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Hurricane into spitfire pog

raw ermine
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wrong channel

next mesa
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begone egirl, we only worship cashew delisi's massive forehead here

silk frost
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of course

worn falcon
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that reminds me no one is gonna pick soon or benbest?

karmic grotto
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they should pick me

tropic herald
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London maybe peepoCry

raw ermine
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some people think that Paris are gonna put them on the ropes, make them feel as if they won't get picked up for the next season, and offer a low contract right before the next season

tropic herald
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

worn falcon
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ew SMS

tropic herald
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Wdym ew

worn falcon
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I dont know, SMS was like regular in comparison. But the only reference was him in GOATS

tropic herald
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I liked a few of his heroes

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I think he’s solid B+ or A-

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I guess it depends on what team picks him up

worn falcon
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Flex DPS

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who would pick him?

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SFS?

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Philly?

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Wash?

tropic herald
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I’m imagining a team with a run away player would get him

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Or some team that’s in desperate need of a flex

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Like Boston

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Houston

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Wait no

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I think he would round out Florida pretty well

worn falcon
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i can see him in any of those 4 mentioned

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SFS, Philly, Wash, Florida

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worst case Uprising

limber pine
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My bet on Philly

trail perch
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He is a solid A

raw ermine
trail perch
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I am a seominsoo simp

worn falcon
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plus we dont know if his hero pool has changed

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huh Spark

trail perch
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Hangzhou is amazing now

shell forum
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spark??

vagrant jacinth
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Niceu

shell forum
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only thing i know about spark is that their skins are good

worn falcon
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Spark have Architect

tropic herald
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SMS fills out Hangzhou nice

shell forum
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and that

worn falcon
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2 flex dps

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wtf

tropic herald
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He plays the weird heroes that Architect and Godsb don’t

shell forum
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architect Sadge

worn falcon
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unless they relasing architect

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and he back to SFS as flex

tidal ridge
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seooo min sooo

shell forum
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maybe ta1yo to spark??

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for architect

tropic herald
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That would be very odd

limber pine
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Architect provides no use for SFS

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between ANS and Striker

worn falcon
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SFS doesnt have a Flex dps so far

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well

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ta1yo

tropic herald
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Taiyo is a flex

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He’s good

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I think give him the crusty touch

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Boom he’s top tier

shell forum
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but ta1yo didnt have chance to play because of meta

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kinda dumb tbh

next mesa
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ta1yo is kinda more hitscan doe

shell forum
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and genji

trail perch
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But SMS

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SEOMINSOO

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The god himself

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The Bumper of DPS

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The only zarya to challenge sinatraa

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Imo the mvp of S2

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the team can just have all three

shell forum
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this year was very sadge for shock fans

trail perch
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We dont know what metas ow2 might have

shell forum
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architect, sinatraa, rascal, and moth in 1 year

trail perch
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maybe Viol2t and super

shell forum
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??

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super isnt trading

gilded dagger
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Ya

shell forum
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or leaving in general

trail perch
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How do you know?

gilded dagger
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Literally know way he will

trail perch
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Are you inside the NRG org

shell forum
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"I told you guys, if I get traded I will literally retire and full time stream"

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thats what super has said on stream

trail perch
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When you realize that super doesnt control everything, and he might just be saying that

true hound
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shock dropping Super would be the most smooth brain thing to do

shell forum
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yeah

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that too

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and viol2t is just stupid lol

tropic herald
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Viol2t is kinda dumb

shell forum
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"kinda"

tropic herald
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But I wonder if he does it for attention

shell forum
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i mean

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prob not

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but you never know

silk frost
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

shell forum
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??

raw ermine
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He is happy SeoMinSoo is being signed supposedly

silk frost
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yeah

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although he's gonna be with Godsb so that'll be rough

candid sequoia
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@shell forum didnt super say only if he got traded to boston he would retire?

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I dont remember lol

shell forum
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neither do i

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but thats all i remember him saying

candid sequoia
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I think he said if he got traded to boston he would retire and full time stream

shell forum
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fuck he did

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but i still dont think hes being traded

tropic herald
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Holy

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What

worn falcon
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the fuck

next mesa
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yeah idk about that

worn falcon
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only if Crusty can put him some weight and make him OWL s4 ready

shell forum
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WHAT

cloud latch
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trust the crust

raw ermine
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oooooooooooooooooooooooh

next mesa
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tghat's a downgrade

earnest leaf
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In Crusty we trust

shell forum
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WHY

next mesa
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that's a pretty significant downgrade

shell forum
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WHAT THE FUCK

earnest leaf
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@next mesa any MS is gonna be a downgrade compared to moth tbh

shell forum
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YEAH

karmic grotto
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k

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I guess Crusty coached moth enough, so now he wants to coach fdgod

nova wadi
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FDgod under crustys coaching 😩

next mesa
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true

tidal ridge
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FDGOD

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OMG

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keeping the western MS tradition i guess

worn falcon
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there arent not so many MS players

tidal ridge
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WAIT

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this means

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its now very possible that slime to washington

cedar oasis
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FDgod is good tho

plush grail
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pretty sure moth just wanted to chase the bag, crusty was like sure and just got fdgod for cheap

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fdgod is still a top tier lucio tho

silk frost
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OH FUCK

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FDGOD UNDER CRUSTY

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HOLY SHIT

stuck radish
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wtf

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they traded moth for fdgod

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why

earnest leaf
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don't think it was a trade

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and moth was probably too expensive

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people forget all shock players are worth and can ask for a fat paycheck

silk frost
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Also FDGod is one of the few players who might have an even higher peak

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Similarly flexible too, an excellent mercy/brig/lucio

true hound
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fdgod is gonna be rlly damn good

tidal ridge
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shock going b2b2b a

true hound
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definitely a more agressive player, but this is a super good pickup

silk frost
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Although I'm not sure about his bap, zen, or ana, but they have 2 flex supports anyways

edgy tinsel
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tghat's a downgrade
@next mesa who else are they meant to get

true hound
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eh i dont think its downgrade

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they just play different

silk frost
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Everyone is a downgrade from Moth

tidal ridge
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anybody under crusty is a superstar

true hound
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fdgod and astro r more aggro and try to kill stuff

tidal ridge
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downgrades dont exist with crusty

edgy tinsel
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yeah moth is the best MS

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it is a downgrade

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but its the best they couldve gotten

silk frost
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Yeah he was the 2nd best MS imo

tidal ridge
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they had the options of like

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slime, fdgod, unique

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in the league just slime and fdgod

edgy tinsel
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fdgod is a better lucio imo

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than slime

next mesa
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like

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how is his mercy

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do we know

edgy tinsel
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that we dk

tidal ridge
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oh boy glads vs shock will be a good game in s4

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dynamic of space + moth vs super and the shock

shell forum
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tbh i feel like glads have next season in the bag

silk frost
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Slime and FA are very linear in their hero pools

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Lucio almost exclusively

shell forum
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yes

silk frost
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Moth and FDGod are the best because they're also amazing at other heroes

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And LJG is in between

shell forum
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moth just built different

silk frost
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You know it

karmic grotto
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Subjective opinions...

tropic herald
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Dallas signed their hitscan

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Who is it thought

dim path
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Has New York made any pickups this offseason

tropic herald
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No

dim path
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Damn

tropic herald
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They’ve made supposed signings that are unannounced

dim path
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Even worse we lost the madlad hotba

tropic herald
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Such as Yakpung to NY

wanton birch
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Well of course shock lose a top 3 main support and sign one of the other top 3

balmy wolf
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glads looking stacked holyyyyy

wanton birch
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Yeah top 3 support line and top 5 tank and dps line

shell forum
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super on dps this season 👀

keen aurora
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wat fdgod replaced moth?

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thats an ok trade

shell forum
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yeah

noble nexus
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fdgod and viol2t backline

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so fucking aggro

shell forum
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lmao fr

noble nexus
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they're gonna have 4 dps on their starting lineup

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actually unfair

silk frost
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last important pickup is gonna be the dallas hitscan and justice off tank

true hound
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sayaplayer to dallas pls

silk frost
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fuck yeah

true hound
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best aimer

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god gamer

karmic grotto
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Comeback of zachareee

harsh sedge
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They should put introduce Mondatta into the game as a new hero

lusty heron
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He’s dead tho

harsh sedge
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Repaired

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By Torb

lusty heron
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Oof

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Big brain

noble nexus
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@silk frost seoul still need an OT l0l

weak bolt
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I really didnt expect FDGod to Shock, but that could be big

noble nexus
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I was expecting slime to Shock

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and FDGod back to paris on a 50k contract

weak bolt
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His mechanics are pretty amazing, he was just a bit feedy at times. Crusty will coach that out of him

noble nexus
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he's a bit like LJG in that sense

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but FDGod tends to realize when he's feeding and stop it imo

weak bolt
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He'll only ever have to play Lucio or Mercy really, and I think Crusty can coach him enough to be top at those

earnest leaf
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Now teams gotta deal with fdgod and viol2t

noble nexus
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LJG kinda just keeps going for the rest of the map

earnest leaf
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In their backline

noble nexus
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fdgod and viol2t steal your high ground, what you doin?

weak bolt
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FDGod in your backline, and Viol2t sniping you from their backline

shell forum
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ljg will just feed, ez win

weak bolt
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Paris must have made mad cash this off season though

next mesa
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who did dallas sign?

noble nexus
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Paris are going budget

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Or so I'm told

next mesa
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yeah but they have like 0 players

noble nexus
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they're just really good at going budget man

shell forum
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paris disband??

weak bolt
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Going budget, but they'll have made mad profits from selling Sparkle, Hanbin, Xzi and FDGod lol

noble nexus
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idk I was told they said they were going budget

earnest leaf
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Only xzi now

weak bolt
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Where does Slime go now, Mayhem/Justice?

shell forum
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hell

hot heart
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Fucking knew shock would pick up Fdgod

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Excited for shock in 2021

weak bolt
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I reckon shock are going to pick up Nero as their flex dps now

hot heart
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Hopefully twighlight sees more playtime

shell forum
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yeah

noble nexus
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They obviously want to stay mixed

weak bolt
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If Crusty really wants a mixed roster, he probably wants another non-korean player

noble nexus
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which is good

hot heart
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I think they pickup ivy

shell forum
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wait

hot heart
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His mei is incredible

shell forum
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super and ta1yo are the only non koreans right?

weak bolt
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and now FDGod

noble nexus
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fdgod now too

hot heart
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And fdgod yeah

shell forum
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ah

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ngl taiyo is kinda hot

weak bolt
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I do wonder who has higher potential between Ivy/Nero honestly

hot heart
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I think its ivy

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But i think in terms of potential

weak bolt
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Both have near identical hero pools

hot heart
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Like

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The best they could ever get

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Nero and ivy are on the same level

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Hero pools yeah

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But whatever crusty does

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I trust it

noble nexus
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you just have to man

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Crusty is never wrong

worn falcon
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Philly needs some flex dps peepocry

weak bolt
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Should just bring Architect back

noble nexus
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they're apparently winning the bid war for rascal

shell forum
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philly just needs something

noble nexus
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although I can see Rascal going to Glads being a thing

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just depends if they can pay him enough

worn falcon
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and hope someone buy Ivy

weak bolt
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That rumour on Rascal seems from a really dodgy source

noble nexus
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that's why I said apprently

hot heart
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Whats the rumour?

noble nexus
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someone who leaked Spitfire stuff also said that philly were winning the bid war for Rascal

hot heart
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Hmm

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Makes sense

noble nexus
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but idk about it

hot heart
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Philly have mega cash

noble nexus
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cuz that's a really iffy tweet

hot heart
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And they need a top tier flex dps

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Yeah that tweet could be sus

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But honestly i could see it happening

noble nexus
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wording seems safe

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It's possible

hot heart
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Philly rascal

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Insane

weak bolt
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Philly havent released eqo yet right?

gilded dagger
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AAAAAAAAHHHH

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Shock signed FDGod

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OMGGGGG

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Omg

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Omg

worn falcon
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@weak bolt Eqo is FA

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still in talks

weak bolt
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Ah ok, weird. Liquipedia still lists him as a player at the moment but I guess they wait for official news

gilded dagger
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OMG OMG OMG OMG

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FDGPD ON SHOCK!?

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IM LEGIT SHAKING

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AAAAAAHHHH

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I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAPPEN

worn falcon
gilded dagger
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THIS IS POGGGGGGGGG

noble nexus
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they had like maybe 4 choices

gilded dagger
worn falcon
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yeah, there are not so many top MS in OWL

noble nexus
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but they wanted to keep their mixed roster

weak bolt
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Slime, Faith, FDGod and maybe Mandu/Sanguinar were probably the choices

gilded dagger
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Ya

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Slime would’ve been good

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But fdgod is better

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And charge got mandu

noble nexus
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fdgod is still a downgrade from moth imo

weak bolt
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Different styles of Lucio play really

gilded dagger
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@noble nexus true

weak bolt
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and I reckon Crusty can coach FDGod to the level required that it's not a huge loss for Shock

gilded dagger
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Ya

noble nexus
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mechanically they're pretty close

gilded dagger
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Mhm

noble nexus
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but moth's mechanics and decision making on mercy are insane

gilded dagger
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But moth is the better overall player

noble nexus
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only heroes he'll have to play are lucio and mercy

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brig too

gilded dagger
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Ya

weak bolt
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Moth seemed most valuabled for his calling and such in game, and I suspect they've got someone else working on that now

tropic herald
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Now that FDGod is on shock...

weak bolt
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Honestly if Shock just go full on aggro this season, it could be a great pickup for them

noble nexus
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dw next time he does something like that he'll have smurf/striker diving with him

weak bolt
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Imagine Striker/FDGod/Smurf all diving you, while Choi/Viol2t/ANS are hitting you long range

tropic herald
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True

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FD fits this team well

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Balls to the walls aggro

gilded dagger
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That’s op

tropic herald
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Then again

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You are facing teams like Dallas and Gladiators

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So maybe not amazing

weak bolt
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My only worry for Shock would be a Brig meta, but then Moth wasn't a great Brig either

gilded dagger
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Yup

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True

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Fdgods brig is ehh

weak bolt
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Imo Dallas has a weakness with their backline that a team like Shock would exploit

gilded dagger
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Ya

tropic herald
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I think Rapel Jecse is a good support line

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They were on Houston doe

gilded dagger
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Yup

weak bolt
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Fielder is great, but Rapel/Jecse, are they really the top level support line

gilded dagger
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Imagine they go against Houston

weak bolt
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Alarm/Astro, Viol2t/FDGod, Rapel/Jecse - I know which I'd rather play against

noble nexus
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Jecse shotcalls pretty well

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but that doesn't mean much when you're just not as good as the enemy supp line

gilded dagger
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What about a anamo/jjonak

noble nexus
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Jjonak kinda feeds

weak bolt
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Anamo/Jjonak aren't even on the same comparable level any more

gilded dagger
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True

noble nexus
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yeah they're kinda not what they used to be

weak bolt
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Neither would start on Shock/Philly

next mesa
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I mean

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should be fielder/jecse

noble nexus
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well yeah when twilight is benched on a team you know their supp line is stacked

weak bolt
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You'd expect Fielder, but who knows

noble nexus
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ya fielder jecse is better

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fielder is good enough that any synergy with rapel/jecse isn't worth

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plus synergy with hanbin and sparkle

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fielder will start over rapel

weak bolt
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Did we ever see Fielder or Rapel play Baptiste?

noble nexus
#

unless they fuck ti up

#

I'd assume so

weak bolt
#

I feel like we saw so few teams play Baptiste last year, and he'd be meta if OWL was live now

noble nexus
#

he got buffed a ton during grand finals

#

so they never played with that patch

#

but there were a few teams that ran it

#

shock ran it a lot

#

but that's just cuz viol2t too good

weak bolt
#

yeah Shock used it to counter Pharah strats mainly

#

I'm curious if any other team could have really pulled that off

proper stream
#

can someone coach me to play genji

plush light
#

Watch super and sideshow. They are both owl genjis.

#

Sideshow is retired owl

tropic holly
#

the FdGod signing is mad hype, don't forget that he has crusty coaching him

cobalt spoke
#

Wait

#

Crusty coached fdgod = moth?

#

Now as long as we dont lose super (easy and viol2t,we just need another proj dps

#

Chipsa to shock?

raw ermine
#

My god

#

the stupid people who think they can at everyone never end

#

do they?

earnest leaf
#

libero to shock ez

#

they should sign that rascal guy

#

he's pretty good

raw ermine
plush light
#

Super is the new shock flex dps. You guys haven't heard?

shell forum
#

I KNEW IT

cobalt spoke
#

Ok

#

Moth -> Fdgod

#

Moth to fdgod is a downgrade

#

But moth to fdgod coached by crusty?

shell forum
#

anything for moth is a downgrade

cobalt spoke
#

Idk

shell forum
#

moth is just built different

cobalt spoke
shell forum
cobalt spoke
#

But whenever a player comes on to shock they get coached by crusty

#

And that garuntees that the player gets better

#

So I actually think fdgod on shock will make him the same level as moth

next mesa
#

Crusty does have like 5 months doe

raw ermine
#

which is pretty much the equivalent of making FDgod into moth

solar bison
#

Probably

hasty sable
#

imagine FDgod goes to Houston

vagrant jacinth
#

He's already joined shock lmao

hasty sable
#

yeah

#

fuel looking stacked

upper niche
#

wait what what what, is this just rumours or did Moth go to GLA?

hasty sable
#

yes

#

he did

vagrant jacinth
#

Faith in crusty to bring fdgod up to moths level

shell forum
#

he will

hasty sable
#

yeah

trail perch
#

Whoever asked about fielders bap

vagrant jacinth
#

And yeah, moth to lag

shell forum
#

crusty has that power

trail perch
#

it was insane

#

In bap brig

hasty sable
#

fuel should sign a better main support

#

maybe they could snatch up charra

vagrant jacinth
#

The ping king

hasty sable
#

and maybe

#

wait for it

#

fuel sign lip

#

now that would be insane maybe hessu goes fuel

#

the signed fdgod just announced

vagrant jacinth
#

Fuel are so goddamn stacked now

hasty sable
#

I know

#

look at the glads support line

#

moth and shu not to mention space pretty good so dar

#

*far

vagrant jacinth
#

Shu moth is sick

hasty sable
#

oof

#

I think that this is like the turning point season for most teams I mean look at all the big signings and releases there has been

shell forum
#

s4 is a massive stepping stone for some teams

#

i still will miss BigGoose though

hasty sable
#

same

hot heart
#

Glads really arent fucking around huh

tropic herald
#

ive heard this guy is good

hot heart
#

"Next up are the rookies"

#

More to come then

#

From contenders

#

ive heard this guy is good
@tropic herald yeah same

hidden vault
#

Why is shock signing fdgod?

#

What about slime?

balmy wolf
#

crusty likes western players

formal crystal
#

Crusty specifically stated he wants a mixed roster

tawdry hamlet
#

Brooo I was just watching kayleee go off in contenders like a week ago

#

POG

balmy wolf
#

is kaylee projectile or hitscan?

hidden vault
#

I thought it would be mixed roster with a chance of full korean

balmy wolf
#

where do people get this notion that shock is going full kr???

hidden vault
#

No but every single role had a korean except ms

#

So why wouldnt he get one

balmy wolf
#

maybe because u dont need 6 KRs all the time

#

all of shock comms in kr and english

#

should be easy to plug him in

hidden vault
#

I did mention that i expected it to be an option

#

Like super and smurf

#

Not all the time

worn falcon
#

No YEP QoQ

#

:(

silk frost
#

he's kinda a sig 1 trick tho, no?

hidden vault
#

qoq to justice?

#

nahh

#

sig 1 trick is habin 😂

silk frost
#

Hey

#

Hanbin is a passable zarya and d.va

sullen berry
# 
And in Happy’s case... because esports careers tend to be brutally short.... He wanted to experience living in the U.S. and being on a Western team. 
...We put Happy in touch with one of the best agents in the business who has a great network among Western teams, and wished him the best (while smiling through our tears).
#

H A P P Y

#

I just want to see the man do well next season, with all the western teams you're going to put this man on

#

Vancouver?

hidden vault
#

Hanbin is a passable zarya and d.va
i quoted sparkle in his ama

keen warren
#

@sullen berry GANG GANG

silk frost
#

Oh lol didn't read the ama

#

Maybe Happy goes to Mayhem

#

Either that or a texas team right?

round tundra
#

im so sad moth left shock

weak bolt
karmic grotto
weak bolt
#

So who's going London -> Chinese team

#

Glister to GZC is my assumption

cobalt spoke
#

Wait

#

Yo

#

Souel is the only city that is actually in a korea

#

In owl

#

Shanghai and hangzhou might be a thing?

weak bolt
#

well Lijjiang tower is in China, so it infers it's a chinese team

#

So either Spark, Chengdu, GZC or SHD

#

Ah, might be this one;

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

vagrant jacinth
#

Wow, didn't think they'd let go of qoq

#

But cool, sign my man bernar up

edgy tinsel
#

they already announced qoq leaving so probs true

#

plus bernar defo an upgrade imo

vagrant jacinth
#

I agree

weak bolt
#

Spark are apparantly making a 12 man roster, so they're going to be adding a few more for sure

noble nexus
#

did the spark keep architect and godsb too?

raw ermine
#

I think so

noble nexus
#

sms architect and godsb

#

now that's a dps line

raw ermine
#

I feel bernar is worse than qoq

#

Nuts dps line

noble nexus
#

idk I never really liked qoq

weak bolt
#

They are meant ot be signing LiGe from Chinese Contenders as well, so they'll have choices

edgy tinsel
#

I feel bernar is worse than qoq
@raw ermine nah bernar is better

#

100%

raw ermine
#

Alright

#

Nobody wants your art

noble nexus
#

nah if you're annoying enough you can sell anything

#

l0l

plush light
#

What if nosmite goes to mayhem?

trail perch
#

No way

#

Nosmite was the worst part of paris

#

It would be a strugge for him to find a team

#

He was garbo

plush light
#

Who goes to Florida? Tizi?

raw ermine
#

nah

#

he is doing military service

plush light
#

O

#

Maybe sado?

raw ermine
#

maybe

plush light
#

Karyan would have been fine if they kept him

cobalt spoke
#

Hmm

raw ermine
#

I just realised

#

shy is on Hangzhou

#

that means they have an architect godsb seominsoo shy dps line

karmic grotto
#

QoQ to.... Justice?

raw ermine
#

Fury Jjanu and QOQ to justice?

#

actually mag played with QOQ no?

karmic grotto
#

In runaway

raw ermine
#

yeah

karmic grotto
#

Makes sense to me if he's traded

cobalt spoke
raw ermine
#

yes he is

tidal ridge
#

waiting for boink re-signing

#

PauseChamp

chrome cosmos
#

Yep

raw ermine
#

ohonononono

#

jjonak gone?

#

sbb gone?

#

wait

#

some ppl thing its tears of happiness

chrome cosmos
#

Looks sad

#

Tbh

#

Not happy

#

Sadge

#

Honestly its hard to tell

karmic grotto
chrome cosmos
#

Its the logo of this team

raw ermine
#

oh yeah

#

forgot

#

who would they get?

#

didn't kaneki get leaking already?

chrome cosmos
#

:0

raw ermine
#

thats the hitscan dps

chrome cosmos
#

Poggos

limber pine
#

any good?

chrome cosmos
#

Apparently he is highly rated but not 18 yet

#

But his birthday is in march so should be fine

keen aurora
#

remember whenshanghai won against boston

limber pine
#

somebody had to be shanghai's first win

keen aurora
#

it was boston

#

lol

#

Im suprised axxiom was still on boston till yesterday

weak bolt
#

A new young DPS Prodigy for NYXL to ruin

keen aurora
#

as an nyxl fan, im rilly hating there decisions

weak bolt
#

At least its probably not a total budget signing if he's highly rated

keen aurora
#

wait kyo is still on chengdu?

#

and AKM??

#

oh wait nvm

raw ermine
#

no no

#

lmao

#

he retired a while ago

keen aurora
#

oh ok

#

ngl i hope pine comes out of retirement

chrome cosmos
#

I hope coaches go into retirement

#

Jesus christ man

#

:((

keen aurora
#

IKR

#

COACHES SUk

chrome cosmos
#

Who could replace them tho

keen aurora
#

The players are good the coaches just suk in general

#

Idk

gilded dagger
#

True

cedar oasis
#

Have they had the same coaches for 3 years?

gilded dagger
#

Idk

raw ermine
#

they had 1 head coach for 2 years

#

and then he left

#

but yeah like

#

very few coaches

keen aurora
#

wait that guy went to justice i think

raw ermine
#

the head coach?

#

it was Pavane

#

he went to london

keen aurora
#

meaning?

#

ohhh

#

terrible memory

raw ermine
#

then retired and went to C9 Korea as a head coach

#

for valorant

silk frost
#

team catt players pog

cobalt spoke
#

Fdgod is gonna turn up to the battefield fierce, ready to dominate his former allies and rivals

#

Ok but serious ly

#

Fdgod to shock is so cool

keen aurora
#

to replace moth

cobalt spoke
#

Fdgod is gonna have crusty coaching

#

Remeber

#

All he has to do is be good at Lucio and be good at mercy

#

He is already a good lucio

plush grail
#

i totally forgot moth was also the shock's mercy

#

how is fdgods mercy?

true hound
#

i dunno

#

i feel like he like

cobalt spoke
#

Not to shabby

true hound
#

never played mercy the whole season

cobalt spoke
#

But I doubt he couldnt just take a hit of crusty's crackpipe and become good at mercy

earnest leaf
#

mercy is probably a super coachable hero

quartz cairn
#

tbh in OWL mercy is basically only used for pocketing

#

just need to make good decisions and stay alive

tropic holly
#

ok, fdgod's decision making on mercy isn't amazing

#

and he can't do some of the things we've seen moth do

#

yet

gilded dagger
#

LEAKS SAY SEOMINSOO IS COMING BACK WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

silk frost
#

poggers

trail perch
#

That was yesterdays news

cobalt spoke
#

@tropic holly that's doubting fdgod, but most importantly thats doubting the crust, in the crust we trust

trail perch
#

Also FDgods mercy was still really good

#

and his brig is DEFINITELY better than moths

raw ermine
#

Who do you guys think is better? Diem or Decay?

trail perch
#

Overall? Decay

#

At widow, diem

tropic herald
trail perch
#

This aint official right?

#

Is Xzi FA

gilded dagger
#

Idk

limber pine
gilded dagger
#

Hmmm?

raw ermine
#

damn

limber pine
#

sadly social media things like this tend to be true

#

so Libero seems to be gone

worn falcon
#

Libero to Philly

limber pine
#

interesting

tropic herald
#

And they also just made a post about Libero on Twitter

raw ermine
#

this

#

lmao

tropic herald
#

Shock Libero pauseCrazy

worn falcon
#

Philly Libero

limber pine
#

apparently they did the same thing to mano before he left

#

as in: post a video of his highlights

digital cloud
#

good job making this obvious nyxl

tropic herald
#

They did lol

#

November 2nd

#

Although the titles are little diff

worn falcon
#

Imagine Carpe - Libero, or Heesu - Libero in Philly gachiOverheat

digital cloud
#

they are trying to be sneaky, but the obsessive stalkers people that noticed this know what is up

worn falcon
#

plus Mano is here.

#

SBB playing pubg

raw ermine
#

pelican

#

feels like the same as signing edison last year

#

but cool

silk frost
#

except better

trail perch
#

Pick up libero and meko

#

And wizard hyung

#

and make a s1 NYXL reunion

cobalt spoke
#

FD god doesn't have to be good at brig you know

#

Twilight plays brig

#

So shock got a good main support

#

Now shock just needs a good proj dps

#

Someone to play doom, echo junk and torb

#

Ohh wait

tropic herald
#

Libero Monkas

cobalt spoke
#

Chipsa to shock?

tropic herald
#

ChipSa really should not be back in OWL

#

Isn’t he like barely holding 4.2?

raw ermine
#

he's 6.9k sr

weak bolt
karmic grotto
digital cloud
#

so pelican, sharp, and edison as dps now

#

seems pretty good

#

could use erster though

#

which they dropped

#

why did you drop erster, reign

#

why

trail perch
#

Erster was washed

#

This entire season he wasnt good

#

He didnt live up to his stage 4 hype

digital cloud
#

they never even played him enough to know for sure, they kept him benched

#

justice for erster

trail perch
#

He played sometimes, but things probably happened during scrims

digital cloud
#

considering the coaching that Atlanta had this year, I am inclined to think he did great and that the coaches were dumb

weak bolt
#

Erster just never seemed up to it last year. That could have been coaching, could be he was mentally boomed, or maybe he just isn't as good as expected

#

Unless he joins another team, I don't think we'll ever know

digital cloud
#

I am willing to say he was boomed, but I don't think assuming he was makes sense given the abysmal coaching of Atlanta this year

worn falcon
#

Harbleu to Shock PauseChamp

#

jk

balmy wolf
#

Harb is not good enough for OWL

worn falcon
#

Neither was chipsa KEKWArrive

opal venture
#

Chipsa overrated I feel like

digital cloud
#

he is very overrated

#

there are people here that unironically think he was good enough to be in OWL, and that he was the best doom on his team

opal venture
#

exactly, sure he some good moments, but his average was s**t

digital cloud
#

in OWL?

#

or you mean his stream

raw ermine
#

Chipsa's average in OWL is..

#

one game

#

one win

#

so

#

better than Fleta

cobalt spoke
#

100% wr

#

It is what it is

weak bolt
#

Chipsa is like #2 best ranked in OWL

#

1 Map, 1 win, but he did die

#

So IDDQD is ahead, as he is 1 map, 1 win, 0 deaths

digital cloud
#

I am pretty sure these guys are kidding, but there are like two other people on here that I think are legit about him being good

cobalt spoke
#

Chipsa actually showed some pretty good doom gameplay tbh

#

I don't think he's good

#

Nah

weak bolt
#

yeah there are a couple in this channel who actually think Chipsa should be in OWL lol

true hound
#

i think his doom is verygood but there’s literally nothing else to play him for

#

he’s washed on every other hero he plays

#

at one point he was rlly good but when chipsas genji was good it was like... 2017 lol

digital cloud
#

I could have sworn you were one of the people that were fanboi-ing him, but I guess I remembered incorrectly

#

must be one of the trollier people

#

like Adriel

true hound
#

no I only argued with you once about his doomfist being OWL level

#

which I think is

#

but does he deserve an actual spot nah not really

#

it just works out super well for fusion

#

cause free PR lol

digital cloud
#

well, I can't argue about the pr

#

but the OWL level I can

true hound
#

ye that’s fine

weak bolt
#

My hot take is his owl is doom level, because nobody else in OWL cares about Doom enough

true hound
#

😔 no one wants that hero to be meta lol

#

when doom is a strong pick it’s just wosnsnakebdnana

#

not fun

weak bolt
#

I suspect if Sparkle, Rascal, Fleta, Eileen etc all had to Scrim doom for a month or 2, they'd be far above Chipsa

digital cloud
#

I don't even think they would need to do it for a month

true hound
#

I haven’t watched enough contendies but I’ve heard sparkle doom is real good

earnest leaf
#

I mean it wouldn't suprise me if chipsa could be coached into a top tier owl doom

#

sparkle was known for his doom iirc

true hound
#

but idk when doom would be meta next

#

if they buff him it’ll be in 10 years

digital cloud
#

chipsa would not be coached to that level

#

he doesn't have the talent that the other owl dps have

weak bolt
#

It's kind of like a team picking up Fitzy or Steevo for a Sombra or Sym meta lol

digital cloud
#

sparkle blase and sms clap him any day of the week

true hound
#

Sym meta that ain’t something we’ll ever see

#

she was meta for like 2 weeks right? When double shield first became a thing

raw ermine
#

sparkle is already better

true hound
#

her charge rate and damage were like really busted or something

digital cloud
#

we could given the right buffs

#

or nerfs

#

but her gimmick of destroying shields is not as effective historically as going through them

#

or removing them

#

so doom and sombra do it better

#

I like sombra now, but she is pretty hard to punish, so she can hack (or not) and get away a huge amount of the time

#

plus emp is like the most valuable ult in the game

#

so she has way more value in shield metas

opal venture
#

but fleta insane

digital cloud
#

on sym?

opal venture
#

no in general

digital cloud
#

are you referring back to the doom argument?

opal venture
#

sorry didn't the read the chat before

#

forgest what I said

keen aurora
#

whos pelican

digital cloud
#

a dps

#

he is quite good

weak bolt
#

Top rated Korean dps from contenders. Sombra/Tracer/Flex dps

digital cloud
#

why get him when they have edison

#

I mean, he might be better

#

but they overlap

true hound
#

idk Atlanta is weird

weak bolt
#

Probably so Edison can focus purely on hitscan

digital cloud
#

like . . . sniper hitscan?

opal venture
#

Atlanta has players that don't really match in my opioin

weak bolt
#

Ashe/Mcree/Soldier/Widow hitscans

opal venture
#

playstyle wise

digital cloud
#

I thought they matched relatively well playstyle wise, just looked like the coaches hadn't polished them very well

weak bolt
#

ATL were weird last season for sure. Hopefully a fresh start for most of these players will do them good

#

Commit to Gator/Hawk tank line, with decent supports, and then play your dps on their heroes

digital cloud
#

I really am curious if Gator or Hawk are actually good tanks

hexed coral
digital cloud
#

I am hoping they are based off of contenders, but the season for Atlanta was so weird, it was hard to tell

weak bolt
#

I think they'd mid-low tier honestly, but hard to prove after last year

digital cloud
#

I had high hopes for them after the gauntlet

#

the looked at least high mid to me

weak bolt
#

I'd not really want to say Gator/Hawk are much better than Fusions/Punk in all honesty

vagrant jacinth
#

I haven't seen them in contenders so can't really comment

worn falcon
#

sp9rk1e doom was already nuts

plush light
#

Gator and hawk would be good with good coaching. They have lots of potential, but atl coaching sucks

worn falcon
#

the timing on that meteor strike was wtf

#

alarm re-signed

raw ermine
#

good

plush light
#

Chipsa has a 100% win rate in overwatch league

raw ermine
#

oh the clip of the dodge was in OWL

plush light
#

Alarm got resigned

digital cloud
#

re-signed

weak bolt
#

Philly doing the Re-Signing posts to deflect from the hatred of letting Sado/Ivy go lol

worn falcon
#

Ivy Sadge

#

but they can sign Libero

weak bolt
#

Today was the deadline for any existing contract extensions from 2019, so we may see a few more LFT posts today

worn falcon
#

QoQ is already LFT

weak bolt
#

yeah Spark released him earlier today

#

and picked up Bernar

hot heart
#

Yep QoQ

upper niche
#

re-signed
@digital cloud Significant difference in the two 😄

weak bolt
#

Wonder if this means he's found a team

#

I'm guessing Toronto

#

Running it back with another Canadian

hot heart
#

Probably

cedar oasis
#

Did Neptuno retire?

weak bolt
#

Didn't retire, but has no team currently

next mesa
#

if toronto gets crimzo they will just be stuck to mediocrity

#

Idk

#

Or maybe titans

weak bolt
#

Toronto already have Beast, Mediocrity could be an improvement

#

Also everyone retweeting the 2020 Announcement of Boink has trolled me about 3x now

raw ermine
#

solid dps

#

could see LAV re-signing him

weak bolt
#

Yeah, but could see Paris being interested if cheap enough

silk frost
#

maybe to houston pepehands