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next mesa
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no

silk frost
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I wouldn't say he was top 10 or anything but he was quite solid

weak bolt
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I'll agree he's a top 10 western support

hot heart
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He is

silk frost
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I'd go as far to say top 5 western

trail perch
silk frost
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Maybe even top 3

trail perch
next mesa
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yeah there's like

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not even 5 western fs

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in the league

trail perch
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Just read

silk frost
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Him, Roolf, Ripa, Dogman

hot heart
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Huh

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Roky is up there

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Weird

silk frost
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What about deaths

hot heart
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Well

trail perch
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Yall can do the research urselfs, but crimzo has had a godlike year

hot heart
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HUH

next mesa
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nah he's had a really meh year

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I mean

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it's just the facts

weak bolt
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If Crimzo was that good, he'd be signed to a new team

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But I can bet by April, only way he is signed, is if he takes a 50k minimum salary

hot heart
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Another thing

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Why moira stats

trail perch
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Becuase someone said he was bottom 3 on moira heals

next mesa
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crimzo has high deaths per 10

hot heart
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Alright

next mesa
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worse than myunb0ng who's on a worse team

trail perch
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He has much better stats than myunbong

weak bolt
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If we're using pure stats

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Crimzo > Alarm

hot heart
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Truer

weak bolt
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Crimzo has higher healing & damage per 10 mins

hot heart
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Alarm is inferior to the almighty crimzo

weak bolt
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on Zen/Ana & Moira combined

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Crimzo even beats jjonak on damage if we look at pure stats

next mesa
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zen?

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heh

hot heart
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Okay so

weak bolt
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Nah not on pure Zen lol

hot heart
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@trail perch rank crimzo

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But

weak bolt
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Zen is Viol2t, Jjonak, Twilight, Creative, Hyp, Alarm

hot heart
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Not off stats

silk frost
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Viol2t, Twilight, Molly, izayaki, Fielder, Myungbong, Gangnamjin, Alarm, Shu, Lastro would probably be the top 10

hot heart
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You've gotta take playtime into account as well

trail perch
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I would put crimzo 10 or 11

weak bolt
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Bdosin/Creative probably beat Crimzo in any rankings too

silk frost
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Over who in my list tho?

next mesa
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in terms of

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being a better player

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of course

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bdosin and creative

trail perch
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maybe molly or myungbong

next mesa
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I mean they made it to the grand finals at least pepelaugh

silk frost
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Is he better than Lastro, Molly, or Izayaki?

weak bolt
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Aimgod/Kariv probably beat out Crimzo too

next mesa
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yes

hot heart
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Like in terms of actual skill

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Yes

silk frost
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I don't think so actually

hot heart
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Success over the year

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Nah

next mesa
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somehow being a max top 15 flex support means "you have had a god like year"

silk frost
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I think Aimgod is worse and Kariv is very on and off

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This was Kariv's worst year

next mesa
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aimgod's mechanics probably better

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idk

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yeah

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for sure

hot heart
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Aimgod is only good at specific heroes

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KariV has his moments

weak bolt
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Carcar was super low on Lucio stats btw whoever it was that asked

silk frost
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His mechanics are better but his brain is smoother

hot heart
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But overall wasnt in it

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Like s2

silk frost
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Yeah

hot heart
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Carcar was super low on Lucio stats btw whoever it was that asked
@weak bolt thanks

silk frost
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S2 he just dragged Valiant to wins

next mesa
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would you put jehong over aimgod

silk frost
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I think Crimzo is better than Aimgod and similar to Kariv last year

weak bolt
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Also are we really valuing Crimzo on his Moira performances? It's not exactly a high skill hero

silk frost
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Yeah Jehong is probably better than Crimzo, but too little playtime to determine

hot heart
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Yeah i dont think moira is a good hero to look at

noble nexus
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yeah moira is almost all decision making and position realistically

hot heart
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Ana zen and bap are more important

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Mostly ana

noble nexus
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you don't look at a moira player and compliment their aim

silk frost
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I mean moira is all brain, zen is all aim

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And it's not even a TON of brain

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It's important to look at all heroes that someone will play to evaluate how good someone is

weak bolt
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So, trivia: Across combination of Brig/Mercy/Lucio - Who do you think has the highest Healing per 10 mins in S3 OWL

next mesa
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tobi

silk frost
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Probably like Halo or some shit

weak bolt
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Haksal 😄

silk frost
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Season 1 it was freefeel so it's always a bad player

cloud latch
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haksal best support confirmed

weak bolt
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I can't even remember Haksal on Brig this season, but I guess it must have happened at start of year

silk frost
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He never played mercy or lucio

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Inflated

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0/10

weak bolt
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yeah, just made me laugh when I looked

silk frost
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Lol

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Back to the topic at hand tho

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I think that considering how Crimzo is still a solid moira it's not void

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Like sure moira ez, but It's worth SOME points

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Like how jjonak being a terrible moira doesn't give him points

noble nexus
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yeah I think he has a place in OWL honestly

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just on mediocre to bottom tier team

weak bolt
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Only way I see him in OWL is if he takes minimum salary on a western only team

silk frost
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It proves my season 1 jjonak theory of "once zen is gone, jjonak will fall"

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I mean Crimzo is still solid though

noble nexus
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yeah that's 100% what'll happen

silk frost
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He could be on a 10th place team with decent enough coaching and preform admirably

noble nexus
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he'll have to take a minimum salary or play in contendies if he doesn't want to take minimum salary

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but he should stay in OWL

weak bolt
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It'd be like a team picking up Dogman honestly

silk frost
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I think he's worth more than minimum

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I think he's better than Dogman slightly

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His moira is worse but I like his other 3 more, especially bap

next mesa
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haksal played brig

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on nyxl

weak bolt
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If he wants more than minimum salary, you pick up a Korean flex from Contenders for 50k

next mesa
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but it was only for like

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a couple of maps

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lmao

noble nexus
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yeah I reckon he's better than dogman but not worth that much more than minimum

silk frost
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He's probably worth like 60k, not 50

noble nexus
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yeah around that atleast

weak bolt
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Biggest problem he has is there are a LOT of FS out there, many who are probably available for 50k

next mesa
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they need to make

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salaries

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public

weak bolt
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His only chance imo is if a team is insistent on full western roster

silk frost
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I think you guys are selling him a bit short

plush light
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Jjonak is like a better version of aimgod

silk frost
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Idk if I'd go that far ngl lol

weak bolt
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Jjonak is overrated now, that's my take. He was good S1, but since has been meh

noble nexus
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I really don't like his bap

silk frost
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I think he was still good in sw

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S2

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But now he's below crimzo imo

weak bolt
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His Zen is great, but he also requires a ton of resources. His Ana is ok, his Bap/Moira are questionable now

silk frost
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His bap is questionable

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His moira is unusable

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I'd rather have Libero play Moira

plush light
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How can someone be trash at Moira?

silk frost
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You dps a genji and spend 2 fades on it without healing anyone

weak bolt
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Probably as he doesn't get pocketed by Anamo like he does on Ana/Zen

next mesa
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jjonak does most damage as zen right

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lmfaoo

silk frost
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No

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Viol2t does I beliebe

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Believe

next mesa
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2nd

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also his ana is def good but god damn his bap and moira are just hot shit

weak bolt
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Jjonak was 2nd yeah

silk frost
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Twilight and viol2t were above him last year I think

weak bolt
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But think how much pocket he gets from Anamo, he's usually got dmg boost

silk frost
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I don't even think is ana is good I just think anamo's peels are

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Jjonak lobs his cooldowns to the wind and needs constant attention

hot heart
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How would jjonak play under the guidance of someone like crusty

next mesa
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become god

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he did win the ana skills challenge

weak bolt
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Depends how stubborn Jjonak is

next mesa
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I know that doesn't say much

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but like

hot heart
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Tbh

next mesa
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his mechanics are def GWloopyGok

weak bolt
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He'd probably have to adapt his playstyle up a lot

hot heart
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NYXL Coaching was ass and jjonak is probably stubborn

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So

solar bison
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Imagine Jjonak on DPS

hot heart
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He could change

next mesa
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viol2t could def play dps dude

hot heart
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But it would take a really good coach to do that

silk frost
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I don't think jjonak on Sfs would be good

solar bison
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Probably not

next mesa
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and I see him doing better than some of the bottom tier dps

silk frost
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I think he's just gonna get worse and worse and no amount of coaching will help

hot heart
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If super can do it

weak bolt
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yeah Jjonak on SFS wouldnt work, in a similar way I dont think Carpe would work there

hot heart
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Viol2t can

silk frost
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I mean Carpe could work imo

hot heart
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Viol2t on MT

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imagine

weak bolt
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Both are individual players generally, Shock are all about team cohesion

hot heart
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They switch roles

solar bison
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No

silk frost
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I think Crusty does more for Carpe than he does for Jjonak

hot heart
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And we see the super zen

solar bison
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Viol2t on main tank wouldnt work

hot heart
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And viol2t rein

solar bison
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I dont think so

weak bolt
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Super Zen, and Danteh Baptiste

hot heart
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You do realise it was a joke right

solar bison
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Yeah

hot heart
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Okay

solar bison
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But i dont think it would work for real

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Maybe in gold

weak bolt
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Viol2t would play Ball, not Rein

hot heart
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Yeah no obv it wouldn't

weak bolt
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He'd feed hard into your backline, but his aim would kill 3 every time

solar bison
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Imagine ball reworked into a support

weak bolt
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Rolling/slamming teammates is a heal

next mesa
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just as a peeler

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lol

solar bison
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Yeah

weak bolt
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It'd be pure troll. "Sorry I booped you off the edge, you had 5hp missing"

solar bison
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Maybe with less knockback

weak bolt
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Imo let Torb swap his turret between a dps and a healer. That'd be more fun

solar bison
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Shoot to heal like ana?

weak bolt
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yeah, like scoped Ana shots

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Have them heal like 20hps, but never miss a shot

solar bison
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May be good

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And if genji deflects the shots back at the turret, it heals the turrent

weak bolt
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Also back on OWL, I'm amazed no teams took the chance during the Election period to try quietly dump some players

plush grail
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sbb championship when

silk frost
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2017

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World cup

weak bolt
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SBBs chance was S1 OWL, aint going to happen again

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I was also amazed at how highly Plat Chat rated Nenne, and how they were shocked he'd been let go

silk frost
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He's amazing tho

next mesa
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yes

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I know right

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amazed that super thought nenne was remotely good

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like let's be honest

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he's washed

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sbb had to come in and play ashe

weak bolt
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I think NYXL just doesn't seem a great environment for dps players

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None of them seem to thrive there

next mesa
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they should play libero more

plush grail
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it's odd

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sbb and libero are good dps players

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but nyxl is constantly signing new players

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to replace the old ones

weak bolt
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yeah that was the view of super, he really rated Nenne & Libero, and said they likely should have started all season

plush grail
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kinda wondering what nyxl is gonna do now tho

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are they going budget, more superstars or scout new players

weak bolt
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Pick up a couple of potential superstars, and then bench them for SBB & Anamo

hot heart
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At this point nyxl need to go big or go home

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Seen as they released mano

plush grail
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yeah depending on the first signing

hot heart
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They're going home

plush grail
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we can kinda see what route they're going

weak bolt
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I think they almost need to start over

hot heart
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They do

plush grail
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sbb, libero, jjonak and anamo is a good core tbh

hot heart
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Jjonak needs to change it up

weak bolt
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sbb is outclassed now honestly, Libero is reliable for a flex. Jjonak I think you make almost a zen 1 trick

plush grail
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nyxl has fucking doubled their former roster thing in 1 month jesus

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before this they barely dropped anyone

weak bolt
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Anamo you could keep I guess, he's reliable but nothing special

cobalt spoke
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Jjonak's best hero isnt even his zen anymore

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Its probably ana now

weak bolt
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I don't think he'd start on Ana over someone like Fielder, Myunbong etc.

plush grail
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let's just see who they pick up as the tanks tbh

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if they get a tank that works well with jjonak's playstyle they could be good

cobalt spoke
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Nyxl played jjonak ana in so many zen places that I dont think nyxl is confident in his zen

weak bolt
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Jjonaks playstyle = pocket me and hope i kill everything. Teams have worked that out now since S1

cobalt spoke
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Heres the thing

weak bolt
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Something at NYXL must be going wrong, I mean they've basically wasted Flow3r, Nenne, Hotba, Bianca, Whoru and Mandu. All of them could be top players

plush grail
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they refuse to change the fucking coaching

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they're sitting on superstar players

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but don't use them

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they decide to let sbb play ashe and make haksal learn sombra

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also miro left gen g

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either he's just done with them

solar bison
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Haksal retired

plush grail
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or a weird fuckin signing

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a budget signing hoping for miro to become a top tier again

plush light
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SBB was really good on ashe, but nenne or libero should have played sombra

next mesa
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sbb should have been on sombra

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he's their best sombra

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nenne should have been on ashe

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but he's trash

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and instead libero had to play widow for him

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sbb had to get on ashe for him

plush light
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SBB was doing really good on ashe is what I'm saying

next mesa
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yeah

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true

plush grail
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like the moment we saw libero widow and sbb ashe

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we kinda knew nenne was getting dropped

plush light
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They just needed pine back

plush grail
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bro imagine pine in double sniper meta

next mesa
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pine would have been a nut for sure

plush light
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I want to see pine fl0w3r leejaygon janus jjonak and bumper on a team

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Bumper on off tank

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Like in the runaway days

plush grail
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we could have had a libero pine lineup with double snipers pog

plush light
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That would be legit

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How good is mag

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The new Justice main tank

next mesa
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probably best mt in contenders yeah?

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or ike at least top 3 from what i've heard

plush grail
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pretty sure mag and muze were the best mt in contenders

next mesa
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so like talent wise

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he's as good as you can get

plush grail
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and yakpung was a top 3?

next mesa
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he was going to get signed last year but wasn't 18 right

plush light
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They said Roar was top 3 when he joined.
I'm not convinced that justice will be good

plush grail
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justice will be alot less good with the new patches

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they kinda banked it all on zarya hog meta

next mesa
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anything is better than roar

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im better than roar

plush grail
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ameng

raw ermine
plush grail
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who

plush light
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Roar Winston > ameng winston

plush grail
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Roar Winston > ameng winston
@plush light don't disrespect ameng

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he'll 3-0 your fav team with a weird wrecking ball comp

next mesa
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roar winston is like the only hero he doesn't int on

plush light
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I'm salty about hunters because my favorite player on their roster was baconjack

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But Roar's best hero is Winston and Ameng's worst hero by far is Winston

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My Overwatch superteam is chipsa playing on 6 computers at once

tidal ridge
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i thought paris was going full french

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xzi eternal

silk frost
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I believe you mean the Dallas Mystics

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the more I say it the better that is than "dallas fuel"

limber pine
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Paris was never going full french AFAIK

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full EU maybe, but not french

weak bolt
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Paris are playing it 2000IQ

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You renegotiate with the french players and sign them back again on min salaries

cloud latch
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big brain

weak bolt
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Nobody else is going to pick them up, let them sweat for a few weeks and they'll come back

tidal ridge
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nicogdh to shock

next mesa
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why

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also im just still shocked that they released rascal

tidal ridge
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cheaper projectile dps than rascal

next mesa
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they say like ta1yo signed they saw it coming

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but honestly now ta1yo got a lot of pressure

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when they could have like shared

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a lot of heroes are coming

weak bolt
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Not like they can't sign more players if they want still

next mesa
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but are anyone of them rascal caliber

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it's like

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press x for doubt bro

tidal ridge
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they can easily sign a cheap flex dps from contenders or something

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that will remove the pressure from ta1yo

weak bolt
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Depends who is available and how much faith they have in Ta1yo

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I mean, you could take a risk on someone like Erster

tidal ridge
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isnt ta1yo hitscan

next mesa
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yeah ta1yo is hitscan

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that has some projectile

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honestly dude

tidal ridge
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what about stellar

next mesa
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releasing rascal

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it's like

weak bolt
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He used to be projectile, then went hitscan after a while I think

next mesa
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there's gonna be a lot of new heroes in ow2 my guy

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even if most of them are gonna be tank and heals

tidal ridge
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super said that talon was one of the better korean contenders teams they scrimmed.

weak bolt
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Rascal may have wanted to move on, chances are it wasnt just the team told him to leave

tidal ridge
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g

next mesa
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yeah

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honestly that was like

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the most likely outcome

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imo

tidal ridge
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remember when the projectile dps played roadhog

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lol

echo quest
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Y’all seen the Paris eternal tryout leak

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God I feel bad for their manager

weak bolt
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That they're holding a ton of trials? Not surprising

trail perch
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Remember when flex support played hog>

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?

raw ermine
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yeah

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Boombox and Jjonak hog

trail perch
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or the flex support bastion

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or that one time in s1 when super was on zen?

raw ermine
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yeah

trail perch
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I miss the old ow

tidal ridge
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i literally just said that

trail perch
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ik

next mesa
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why

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I like ow now

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idk

digital cloud
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I miss APEX

weak bolt
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I'm weird, I miss goats 😄

next mesa
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goats was fun when it was titans vs shock

weak bolt
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yeah, good goats. None of that Boston vs Houston shit

noble nexus
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goats was really brawly drawn out fights when it was titans vs shock

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but bottom feeder teams just looked sloppy

plush grail
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bumper owl when

plush light
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Anyone remember apex season 4 runaway

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With haksal on Lucio and kox on dps

noble nexus
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god I wish bumper was back in OWL

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that man was a freak

plush grail
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a feeding freak

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honestly

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ameng + bumper

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would be the ideal tank line up

noble nexus
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rein ball meta with bumper ameng

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I'd coom

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that'd be peak overwatch

plush grail
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bumper just hiding

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and ball fucks the enemy team

noble nexus
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bumper hiding around every possible corner and ameng just fucking pummeling the enemy team

silk frost
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miro is no longer a streamer for gen g

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and fun fact: Toronto has had four head coaches

weak bolt
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Apparantly leaked Paris tryouts

raw ermine
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Why FctFctn doing that?

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whatever

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lukemino is old enough?

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ah he turns 18 in feb

next mesa
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avalla

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lmao

raw ermine
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why are fctfctn and gods there anyway? Is this how they test out coaches?

weak bolt
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Apparantly he accidentally turned his stream on

raw ermine
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LMAO

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right

weak bolt
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I'm wondering if he was recording via OBS for Avalla or something

opal mason
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NYXL needs to get some more players

weak bolt
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Theyve got like 4 months to do it, they're just not rushing it seems

tropic herald
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LETS GOOO

raw ermine
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ok

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I thought they were revamping contenders entirely

next mesa
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wait

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so

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tomorrow?????????!!!??!??!?!?

raw ermine
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wait

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tommorrow IS november the 5th

next mesa
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yeah

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LOL

karmic grotto
next mesa
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they should really let the winner of gauntlet like

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get free pass to owl GWmustaSmug

tawdry hamlet
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So many comments about the mercy skin lmaoo

digital cloud
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muma

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why is muma there lol

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please tell me that is an alt

weak bolt
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He's an experienced OWL tank probably willing to take a 50k salary

digital cloud
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experienced in the same way a carpenter with no fingers is experienced

weak bolt
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I mean it's only tryouts, it's worth giving him a shot, maybe some time away and a new environment would do him good

digital cloud
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maybe

weak bolt
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If Paris wants a western team too, there isn't an abundance of main tanks

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Path 2 Pro. British Hurricane win. Get Promoted to London Spitfire, Blizzard claims Path2Pro is succesful, job done

next mesa
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who's gonna win gauntlet

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runaway 👀

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wait

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mag already got signed

raw ermine
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Does Talon count as a Korea or Pacific team?

next mesa
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is he gonna play in runaway still

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pretty sure it's korea?

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idk

raw ermine
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yeah they have 2 off tanks

weak bolt
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How on earth are they going to do it anyway, fly everyone to Korea?

raw ermine
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wonder who'll they'll get

next mesa
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and its tomorrow

weak bolt
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Maybe tomorrow is like a play ins

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top 4 teams each region, top 1 or 2 go Korea

tropic herald
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Talon gonna win Gauntlet

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Source

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Plat Chat

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Super said they were the best tendies team they scrimped

weak bolt
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What the hell is the meta gonna be

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Hopefully watching it counts towards November contenders skins

#

Wtf happened there lol

red anvil
#

Seoul Dynasty Viol2t_OW

raw ermine
#

whoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoa

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first things first

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What did Jehong do?

#

second things second

weak bolt
#

Probably DMCA

raw ermine
#

Is viol2t saying bye to moth or to sfs fans?

weak bolt
#

Knowing viol2t, it could be anything. It could be him going back to Korea and saying goodbye to America or something lol

raw ermine
#

saying bye to his meal before he eats it

#

saying bye to the mercy OTP before he gets benched

next mesa
#

what the fuck

noble nexus
#

chances are viol2t is trolling

#

that guy is a fuckin memester of the highest degree

next mesa
#

no i mean jehong

#

what did he do

noble nexus
#

idk about jehong but knowing twitch it's some bullshit dmca shit

weak bolt
#

yeah my guess is dmca takedown, probably not the only one

#

Either Twilight is in on the meme....

quartz cairn
#

first off why did jehong get banned

next mesa
#

I mean

#

viol2t might be saying bye to twilight honestly

weak bolt
#

I suspect they're both trolling together

noble nexus
#

I'm just confused

#

god I fuckin hope so

#

I can see twilight wanting more play time tbf

next mesa
#

honestly

#

he can start in any team lmao

#

even dragons

silk frost
#

u h

#

wtf is going ON

next mesa
#

but most likely bait

noble nexus
#

yeah twilight is a god gamer

next mesa
#

yeah honestly

weak bolt
#

I kinda wonder if its like Rascal, and Viol2t wants to move on. It could have been a reason to pick up Twilight mid season too

noble nexus
#

I mean yeah viol2t being a fuckin memester makes me think it's bait

weak bolt
#

Fuck knows any more with Shock

noble nexus
#

viol2t also does seem like he'd want to move on and chase titles on another team

#

cuz he just can

next mesa
#

idk

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viol2t's home is

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shock

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more likely for twilight

#

idk man

#

idk

#

IDK

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:GWmythicalHyperREEEE:

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wtf

#

omg rip global emotes

noble nexus
#

rip

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I do feel like twilight is more likely to leave too

#

idk probably a meemee

weak bolt
#

yeah 95% chance it's a troll

noble nexus
#

I hope so

#

3peat would be mad

earnest leaf
#

if shock lost viol2t that would be an oof

noble nexus
#

yeah

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viol2t is a 7ft 400lbs gigachad on zen and bap

next mesa
#

they need to 3 peat

noble nexus
#

but they still would have twilight to be their new 7ft gigachad

next mesa
#

for dynasty

#

cmon

#

legendary

noble nexus
#

if they 3peat Shock'll be the supervillains of OWL

#

I'd fuckin love that

#

imagine Shock vs Justice or Fuel in s3 grand finals

#

that'd be a fuckin story for the ages

weak bolt
#

I'm doubtful of Shock doing the 3x honestly. They probably aren't anywhere near as motivated now, and less likely to spend big

next mesa
#

they need the 3 peat dude

#

first 3 peat

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the michael jordan

raw ermine
#

TRUST

#

THE

#

CRUST

noble nexus
#

yeah idk about that

next mesa
#

that's the goal

#

after that

#

they can just fuck around honestly

silk frost
#

trust 👏 the 👏 crust

noble nexus
#

if anything people like Ans and Twilight are probably more motivated to go after their 2nd championship

weak bolt
#

I'd like them to go full Chengdu, pull out random as fuck comps vs teams that they could beat easy

noble nexus
#

I'd love that

#

they just pull a mystery heroes comp out on the bottom feeders

weak bolt
#

Have Super play every role on the team in 1 match

raw ermine
#

Dream from houston is in valorant now

next mesa
#

interesting

loud elbow
#

I love hearing what you all have to say so what do you all think about this?

raw ermine
#

this is interesting

#

what position first of all

#

not flex support

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either MS, MT or another HS dps

#

moth to fuel? it was rumoured to be lag so nah

loud elbow
#

No one is saying anything but even Halo agreed with him.

raw ermine
#

fissure to 5th team?

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lmao

weak bolt
#

Got to be a nutty MT for that much hype

noble nexus
#

doesn't fissure tend to cause issues?

loud elbow
#

I don’t know if Dallas should take him.

weak bolt
#

or Rascal back to Dallas would be very nutty

#

but nvm that wouldnt make sense

noble nexus
#

that would be mad but I'm not sure he would want or that they even need him

raw ermine
#

on his last team he was fine

noble nexus
#

wasn't his last team vancouver before they imploded?

raw ermine
#

yeah

noble nexus
#

I know it wasn't anything to do with him

raw ermine
#

he didn't cause that

weak bolt
#

yeah but everything else imploded, not Fissure

noble nexus
#

but like

weak bolt
#

He actually wanted to stay on the team and go back to US

noble nexus
#

Yeah I saw

#

I think he's a lot safer than he used to be

#

but like that's still a risk imo

weak bolt
#

Dallas are clearly spending big, who'd be a great MT for them to pick up with lots of cash. Sado maybe?

loud elbow
#

You think he would fit in Dallas?

noble nexus
#

but yeah I think if Dallas have nuttier news it's probably a MT

weak bolt
#

Maybe OGE back there for the storyline? Or Roar would be very nutty

noble nexus
#

idk Roar fuckin flopped

raw ermine
#

oge wouldn't be nutty

noble nexus
#

I feel like he can be coached back into being a good MT

#

they both could

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but OGE kinda washed

raw ermine
#

but I still wouldn't consider it nutty

weak bolt
#

Would be for the storyline, he was loved in Dallas, then when left there was the drama of him standing on the jersey or w/e it was

#

Someone like Kaiser would be a nutty signing from Contenders

cerulean chasm
#

anyone here have a mic and need a squad

raw ermine
noble nexus
#

Kaiser would be insane

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dude

#

Dallas Bumper

weak bolt
#

Truly nutty, would be if they signed Smurf

raw ermine
noble nexus
#

to one trick the rein and force the meta into a rein meta

tropic herald
#

Fissure...

weak bolt
#

I reckon if it were Fissure, then Halo would have teased it by now. He's awaiting confirmation which probably means it's a player already on a team

tropic herald
#

Ah shit

#

It’s Fearless isn’t it

noble nexus
#

that would be fucking insane

weak bolt
#

I reckon Sado or Kaiser

raw ermine
#

omg

#

imagine

#

ok

#

what about non main tank players

#

main support

weak bolt
#

Nutty hitscan maybe

raw ermine
#

possibly

#

Diem?

next mesa
#

Kaiser is getting benched by

weak bolt
#

Diem, or Pine 😄

noble nexus
#

the pine return

#

actually a god tier storyline

raw ermine
#

pineeee

#

omg

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that would be it

#

the nuttiest of them all

loud elbow
#

How about MS?

noble nexus
#

did shock resign moth yet?

weak bolt
#

Not sure I'd consider any MS signing nutty honestly. It's got to be the most dull role

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

moth was leaked to LAG anyway

noble nexus
#

oh yeah he was

raw ermine
#

LeeJaeGon? is he signed?

tropic herald
#

Yes

loud elbow
#

Ok idk much about all this I just love to hear what you guy have to say about it.

weak bolt
#

This is Dallas, anybody could be available now their wallets open

noble nexus
#

yeah I'm sure shanghai would've fought to keep LJG

#

Dallas' org has some fat pockets

weak bolt
#

Ameng to Fuel. The ultimate nutty signing

noble nexus
#

lmao

#

I'd cry

weak bolt
#

Ameng, Pine and Avast. The trio Dallas need

noble nexus
#

only home ameng has is chengdu

weak bolt
#

Maybe they signed one of OWL's best Pharah players to his 3rd team. The legendary Sideshow

noble nexus
#

I'd love shock to become the NA chengdu and pummel people with choi ball and super genji

#

dude

#

Dallas Brenji

#

now that's a nutty signing

weak bolt
#

Avast with the #1 signing of the off season

noble nexus
#

now that's an OWL MVP I can get behind

silk frost
#

who's nuttier than the current dallas signings?'

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Fearless?

noble nexus
#

really the only option I can think of

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Sado maybe

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Sado isn't that nutty compared to the other signings

#

so I really don't know

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but Halo waited for confirmations so we don't even know how true that is

next mesa
#

A sado signing would still be huge

#

I think main tank

noble nexus
#

yeah obviously

next mesa
#

Is the most important role

noble nexus
#

yeahh Main tank has a fuck ton of impact

#

so you need a good MT

next mesa
#

And they are rare too

#

A good MT

noble nexus
#

man I just want bumper back in owl

#

bumper is the best to ever touch the videogame

#

and you can't convince me otherwise

raw ermine
#

wait

#

frankie was on OWL broadcast before this year?

plush light
#

Bumper was originally a reaper main

noble nexus
#

bumper played like every role

plush light
#

bumper played genji in apex once. Haksal was playing Lucio that map

#

bumper is the best to ever touch the videogame
@noble nexus bumper could win overwatch league by himself playing on 6 computers at once.

noble nexus
#

dude Bumper could play against himself on 12 computers and make the best overwatch match to be broadcasted

plush light
#

I want to see bumper dominate the rest of the league with 1 hand on 6 computers

#

Just to make it close

noble nexus
#

he could use a single finger on each computer and still be the best by a large margin

raw ermine
next mesa
#

heh

next mesa
#

okay no cap guys

#

spyder worse player on t1

#

in valorant

#

sayaplayer

#

idk

raw ermine
#

somehow I am not suprised

#

game is much different

digital cloud
#

he top frags half the time

#

and the other half of the time he looks bronze

next mesa
#

lmao

#

he always dies like every round

echo quest
#

Saya pops off one map

#

Than ints the other

#

Ez

#

Duality is what I like to see

#

Sentinels boutta smurf tomorrow

digital cloud
#

not after gen g probably

#

they are spiritually destroyed

echo quest
#

Eh Zombs and Sinatraa both said

#

They weren’t trying their hardest

#

Since they were already guaranteed

#

A seed

#

We’ll see tomorrow

digital cloud
#

bull

#

a loss is a los

#

loss*

echo quest
#

True

#

Dig aren’t that strong

#

Tho

digital cloud
#

true, dig should not be a problem

echo quest
#

Feel like their replacement for shanks

#

Isn’t that good

#

Shame dude was a matchfixer

digital cloud
#

yeah, in cs

echo quest
#

Marved still on faze

digital cloud
#

not sure why people feel the need to transfer it to another game

echo quest
#

I mean it’s basically an illegal thing to do. Your literally throwing professional

#

Games

#

For money

#

MDL is tier 2

#

And it’s not like he did this a few years ago

#

Marved and shanks were doing this a few months before valorant came out

#

I think once the investigation dies down

digital cloud
#

eh, I see no reason to care about actions that occurred in a different game under a different set of circumstances

echo quest
#

He will be picked up

#

It’s bad PR

#

Doubt riot cares

#

But the orgs do

hot heart
#

Fusion Mano

#

That still sounds so damn weird

#

Forgot how insane off seasons could be

edgy tinsel
#

not sure why people feel the need to transfer it to another game
@digital cloud okay lets say this
You kill someone in Germany and move to the UK after
Should you still be arrested for it? Yes

#

Just like u should still be punished even if u move to another game

earnest leaf
karmic grotto
earnest leaf
weak bolt
#

Dallas really did just open their wallets and go for whoever the fuck they wanted

#

and ATL getting Pelican is sad, what a waste

hot heart
#

Dude

#

What if

#

nvm

#

Fearless to dallas is just crazy

weak bolt
#

Makes me wonder what on earth SHD are doing

hot heart
#

Tbh

#

Idk

karmic grotto
#

They have stand1?

hot heart
#

Okay?

#

He isnt top tier

karmic grotto
#

As far as I know, stand1 is a tank that in the beginning of the season, as I read from one of their coaches, had to find his own style.

#

so, he has to be coached into shape

#

This is good for dragons. selling a mature tank for mad cash

#

Rush knows what he does

weak bolt
#

Just sad he never got the full redemption arc at SHD

#

What if, SHD aren't investing as much this year and are selling off

#

Give me Fleta to Shock

karmic grotto
#

SHD is rich as fuck

#

spending salary cap isn't even 1% of their money

weak bolt
#

Never realised Fearless played on EM too, the trend continues

hot heart
#

Element fuel or dallas mystic

karmic grotto
#

yes

weak bolt
#

Next they're gonna sign Jecse as main support

hot heart
#

Or just Element Mystic (OWL edition)

karmic grotto
#

^

hot heart
#

Hmm

#

So

#

Since dallas have the cash to get fearless

#

Xzi wasnt a cash thing

#

Didnt he say he wanted a mixed roster

weak bolt
#

yeah, the rumours are Xzi wants to play on a mixed roster, not full Korean

#

My guess is the guy has smarts and wants to learn English at the same time as OWL

hot heart
#

Hmm

#

What if unique just goes to dallas

karmic grotto
#

doubt

hot heart
#

Fearless hanBin Sp9rk1e doha fielder rapel Unique

karmic grotto
#

There are better offers

weak bolt
#

I kinda feel like if Dallas were getting Unique, they'd have picked him up early and confirmed it. Not like negotiating with another owl team

hot heart
#

Yeah

weak bolt
#

Unique could have a shock offer in his pocket for all we know

hot heart
#

Id imagine shock are looking at unique

#

Unique in crustys hands sounds insane

weak bolt
#

Off season is just going to be a chain reaction of moves at some stage

hot heart
#

Mixed rosters are gonna tear each other apart

#

Kinda like what platchat said

weak bolt
#

I think the only decent mixed roster will be Shock (Not really mixed) and Glads

hot heart
#

Plans go to shit since planned pick ups dont go well

#

Yeah

#

At this stage shock isnt mixed

#

Just super

weak bolt
#

yeah

#

ATL could be making moves though I guess, if they have Pelican and Edison, it's not a bad start

hot heart
#

They really need to focus on their support line rn

hidden vault
#

most teams need to focus on their tank or their support lines

#

or both

vagrant jacinth
#

Bro wth, fearless to Dallas? Crazy they'd trade him

balmy wolf
#

actually theres been this guys who been leaking all the trades of dallas on twitter

#

some people have been saying kevster is going to shock

hot heart
#

If he goes to shock i wont be surprised

#

He has alot of potential

#

And he's already pretty good

weak bolt
#

I dont see what Kevster gives to Shock unless they're losing Striker/ANS

plush light
#

Kester is ultra flex like rascal was

plush light
#

How is it that taimou played Winston in s1?

hot heart
#

Taimou MT Pog

tropic herald
#

Shanghai Fate

raw ermine
#

Ok Dallas gets fearless wtf

weak bolt
raw ermine
#

Oh man

#

They would at least have a projectile dps

hot heart
#

Is shockwavw still on vancouver?

raw ermine
#

He is gonna be fa once the contract runs out and they haven't said he is back

next mesa
#

Trade for fearless?

#

Who's fuel gonna give

#

Prob money

hot heart
#

Money

next mesa
#

This doesn't make sense

#

Dude

hot heart
#

Dallas makes no sense

next mesa
#

Envy just decided

hot heart
#

But it happened

next mesa
#

Like

#

They're winning this year

hot heart
#

Not even we wanna win

next mesa
#

Envy is pog in every other esport

hot heart
#

They're going to win

next mesa
#

Probably

hot heart
#

Thats whats in their head rn

next mesa
#

With fearless they're definitely contenders for sure lol

hot heart
#

If they pickup fearless they're much closer to that goal

#

But MS is still a concern

#

I wonder who dallas are looking at

#

If they can pickup fearless they can probably pickup literally anyone

#

Envy cash baby

noble nexus
#

I'm really not sure how Dallas can fuck next season up

#

I hope they don't

vagrant jacinth
#

The memes if they do though

umbral zodiac
#

still need a hitscan

noble nexus
#

diem n fearless to Dallas

#

oh my

#

I lost

#

that'd be title contenders for sure

vagrant jacinth
#

Rip the fearless Shanghai redemption arc ig

noble nexus
#

I mean he's considered one of the best MT's in the league so he has still redeemed himself

#

just not for shanghai

weak bolt
#

If Dallas sign Diem as their only hitscan, I think it's a big risk

noble nexus
#

yeah but it might be worth it honestly

#

diem did show up in the playoffs didn't he?

raw ermine
#

It was less showing up

#

and more he got played at all

#

it was mostly fleta-lip for the season

next mesa
#

diem will show up if he plays

raw ermine
#

but when they entered double sniper

#

he got to play

#

yeah

next mesa
#

if lip didn't have the sombra and maybe cree

#

like idk

#

just kinda sus

#

dragons really just gonna give it up

#

sigh

noble nexus
#

Yeah that kinda sucks

#

also I feel like diem plus another backup hitscan in case diem flops would be best option

#

but the chance of diem going to Dallas and swagging out is worth it imo

next mesa
#

diem not flopping bro cmon

#

he's like better carpe

noble nexus
#

yeah but idk how he'll play if he gets played frequently

#

cuz he rarely got played on shanghai other than double sniper

weak bolt
#

Diem showed up for playoffs, but that was a heavily widow meta. If it goes Soldier/Mcree style, is he capable

#

Also would still leave Dallas with a huge tracer gap

raw ermine
#

sign nenne?

#

rush with nenne could be good

trail perch
#

Omg if nenne goes to dallas, easy

next mesa
#

who's the best available tracer after striker

trail perch
#

Probably nenne

#

becuase decay, sbb and carpe/fleta are all signed

raw ermine
#

Available?

next mesa
#

nenne sucks

raw ermine
#

striker is available?

trail perch
#

Nenne does not suck, his tracer has gotten much better

next mesa
#

nah nenne just sucks

#

sbb and libero had to hitscan for him in the playoffs

#

It was tragic

trail perch
#

That was poor management decisions by NYXL

next mesa
#

no lol

trail perch
#

Not nennes fault

#

yes lol

next mesa
#

how do you know

#

It's much more probable that they tried nenne in scrims, he sucked sbb and libero was better so he was not on ashe and widow

trail perch
#

Because many players have come out to talk about how bad IMT is

#

Thats like saying that libero sucks becuase haksal started over him for most of the season

next mesa
#

haksal was playing his role

#

like imagine being so bad at your own role libero had to step in and widow for you

#

not saying libero's widow is bad

trail perch
#

It might have had other things behind the scenes

#

like super genji

next mesa
#

that was regular season game though not playoffs

#

oh well

trail perch
#

But it might have had something to do with playsyle

#

style

#

because nenne is more team oriented, while libero is more playmaking

#

Also SBB is a hitscan player so its not embarassing for him to get subbed in

#

That would be like saying that Xzi sucked becuase soon was playing over him

hot heart
#

Best available tracer player?

#

Probably like

trail perch
#

But when Nenne was in he popped off

hot heart
#

Hmm

#

Nvm

next mesa
#

@trail perch it's true xzi's ashe was really doodoo

trail perch
#

Thats just wrong

#

factually incorrect

next mesa
#

That's why soon almost always plays ashe

hot heart
#

Tbh

#

I dont remember him playing much ashe

#

Usually soon was in

next mesa
#

like do you think the coaches are really stupid or something

trail perch
#

No its becuase of synergy

hot heart
#

???

next mesa
#

If xzi was better he would be played

trail perch
#

Thats just not true

next mesa
#

at this point you're just denying

#

lol

trail perch
#

also does the summershowdown mean nothing to you

next mesa
#

yeah when he popped on widow and cree

hot heart
#

Has leave been re-signed

next mesa
#

idk

hot heart
#

Aight

trail perch
#

he played Ashe for quite a bit of it

hot heart
#

Hopefully he has

#

Genuinely fucked on ashe

next mesa
#

leave?

hot heart
#

At the end of the season

next mesa
#

Dude he was kind of sub par like

#

this season

#

yeah at the end he did good though

hot heart
#

All season he was average

#

At the end he was good

next mesa
#

He was so hyped though

#

It's like

trail perch
#

Leave was ahighpoint on chengdu

next mesa
#

sparkle

trail perch
#

becuase he was the most consistant part

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Reminds me of when everyone hyped up flow3r

#

Incredible World cup performance

#

Then not doing too well in OWL

trail perch
#

Flow3r sucked after world cup

#

On XL2?

hot heart
#

On NYXL

trail perch
#

before that, between world cup and Nyxl he was on XL2

#

and he sucked

hot heart
#

Ye didnt watch him then

#

I was hyped for him

#

Just not too hyped

next mesa
#

if he sucked why did he get promoted to nyxl though

trail perch
#

idk, world cup

hot heart
#

They probably thought he'd do well with better coaching and players around him

#

Idk

tropic herald
#

Fearless confirmed for sure

#

Pain

next mesa
#

are you sure

#

confirmed?

tropic herald
next mesa
#

wow

#

that's just sad

#

well

#

no wait

#

it's the Shangai dragon

#

it's okay guys it must be another fearless 😄

tropic herald
#

It’s okay

#

Bc Fate is coming to Shanghai

#

I sure hope moon works some magic

next mesa
#

sigh

#

The squad disbanding

#

Fuel 2021

#

champions

#

I can't believe it dude

raw ermine
#

yikessss

#

sado to Shanghai?

tropic herald
#

No it’s def fate

#

Moon wants fate

#

Florida said no

#

Florida signed muze

#

Florida said maybe

hot heart
#

Damn

#

Welp

tropic herald
hot heart
#

Pain

raw ermine
#

JERRY
JERRY
JERRY

hot heart
#

Mr. Jerry

#

Fearless HanBin is an insane tank line

raw ermine
next mesa
#

Jerry is going to NYXL

#

Kevster to shock

trail perch
#

dont forget about the other teams

tropic herald
#

If Kevster goes to Shock

trail perch
#

Toronto

#

Atlanta

tropic herald
#

Then Rascal goes to Gladiators

trail perch
#

etc. who all need players

tropic herald
#

With Birdring

trail perch
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oh god rascal birdring?

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broker

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broken