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tropic herald
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And Fissure

weak bolt
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Why do I expect OGE to Houston

burnt pagoda
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mag is on washington

next mesa
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yeah dude

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mag was trying out for justice

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like a few weeks ago

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must have done well

burnt pagoda
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is stich and jjanua on the team still?

tropic herald
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I remember Mag was getting trialed for justice a while ago they just never had the means to get him to Na

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He was rocking the skins on stream and everything

weak bolt
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Stitch and Jjanu are in negotiations. I'd expect both to be re-signed

tropic herald
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If Decay and Mag are there

hot heart
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Mag Jjanu Decay Stitch Ttuba

raw ermine
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oh no

tropic herald
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It’d seem foolish to leave

hot heart
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Yeah

weak bolt
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It'll just be a money thing. Justice probably paid big to sign them mid season last year, and now want more sensible wages

hot heart
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Hmm

tropic herald
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Yeah

hot heart
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If i was Jjanh

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I wouldn't wanna leave the team

tropic herald
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It wasn’t appealing to be on Justice then but now it is so they don’t have to pay so high

hot heart
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Unless i got offered some dumb amount of money

weak bolt
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Both also originally signed on 14 day contract. Maybe that big pay cheque motivated them to stay rest of season

hot heart
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Who are justice gonna sign to create a good support line

weak bolt
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The support line will be the key for Justice now. Do you stick Aimgod

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Logic would say you go Aimgod, Fielder & top contenders MS

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Maybe keep Ark as a reliable MS backup too if you can afford it

hot heart
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Fielder is probably gonna get another offer

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π—ͺπ—˜π—Ÿπ—–π—’π— π—˜ π— π—”π—š

Coming straight out of an impressive Contenders season, we're thrilled to have Mag join us
as our π™›π™žπ™§π™¨π™© new signing!

gem @uxbViqfBM3ga8lI

(*Pending League approval)

#JusticeIsServed https://t.co/EyDPoixsr3

β€œπ—ͺπ—˜π—Ÿπ—–π—’π— π—˜ π— π—”π—š

Coming straight out of an impressive Contenders season, we're thrilled to have Mag join us
as our π™›π™žπ™§π™¨π™© new signing!

πŸ’Ž @uxbViqfBM3ga8lI

(*Pending League approval)

#JusticeIsServed https://t.co/EyDPoixsr3”

β–Ά Play video
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Here we go

weak bolt
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Probably, but if you have chance of joining a team with MAG, JJanu, Decay. It'd be tempting

hot heart
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Mag Jjanu decay

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God that sounds crazy

weak bolt
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I doubt he's going to get tons of other offers better

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Fielder/Aimgod would be a pretty sweet combo of FS honestly. Aimgod is cracked on Zen. Fielder amazing Ana. Both flexible enough to swap or play Bap

karmic grotto
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Yes

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Yes

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Yes

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Yes

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Yes

hot heart
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Bottom teams really just went "TAKE MY DAMN MONEY"

weak bolt
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NA this year is going to be ridiculous

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You're gonna have 4 or 5 super teams, and then like 8 trash teams

hot heart
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What happens when every team becomes a super team

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Well

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Kinda

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That makes no sense does it lmao

karmic grotto
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@hot heart it does

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That means we will have REAL matches

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And not stomps

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Nobody likes stomps

weak bolt
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Shock, Philly, Justice, Fuel, Nyxl, Mayhem > Huge gap > Reign, Defiant, Valiant, Gladiators, London, Paris, Outlaws, Boston, Titans

digital cloud
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Fuel still gonna be trash

karmic grotto
vagrant jacinth
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Here we go bois

digital cloud
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(it might not be but the circle of hope must be avoided)

cobalt spoke
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Will fuel really get good because of 2 players?

karmic grotto
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Fuel ain't gonna be trash with EM core

weak bolt
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If Fuel fill in their remaining slots in the same way they started, they could be a super team. But who knows when Hastr0 is in charge

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They could sign Roar as their MT

cobalt spoke
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And lose

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Alot

digital cloud
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no one wants roar

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roar does not want roar

weak bolt
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Yeah but it'd totally be a Dallas move to now sign him

karmic grotto
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pls not. I'd rather have Fissure in Dallas

cobalt spoke
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No amount of good players can carry a bad main tank

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Thats just it

digital cloud
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cough Houston cough

karmic grotto
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What I really want

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Is to see Fissure shine for a WHOLE SEASON

cobalt spoke
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Hydration is an ok main tank

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But just ok

karmic grotto
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He tried last one, but Titans management fucked up

hollow crescent
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they could make a move for somebody like pokpo

digital cloud
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he was like Roar level

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well, not that bad

hollow crescent
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he was on element mystic as well

cobalt spoke
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No he wasnt

digital cloud
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but one of the worst

cobalt spoke
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Hydration > roar

digital cloud
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actually, I need to make a ranking of mts at some point

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roar would definitely be the bottom

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Hydration bottom five

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not going to count Muma, but he would be down there

cobalt spoke
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Smurf #1

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Thats the truth

weak bolt
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Problem with ranking MT's is you'd have to do them by hero

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I mean, Muma on Winston was pretty good, but his Rein? Feed

digital cloud
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he didn't exactly bring the team wins with his Winston though

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but I would agree that he at least was individually a good Winston

cobalt spoke
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I dont think its even fair to rano the individual players on main tank

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Alot of teams have 2 main tanks

weak bolt
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It's like saying Smurf is a #1 tank, but his Rein wouldnt be anywhere close

cobalt spoke
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Yeah

weak bolt
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Muma just got shafted as the only real MT on that team and forced to play them all

cobalt spoke
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But having smurf and super on the same team? 😳

weak bolt
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Gotta have the players for every hero if you wanna win championships

cobalt spoke
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Shock has like 10 players that are the best on a hero

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And you can argue it up to like 15

weak bolt
true hound
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id only say like Striker is undisputed best on his hero

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Super maybe

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but yea theyre top on literally everything

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their bench has all stars :/

vagrant jacinth
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Hyped to see other teams' signings

true hound
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same

vagrant jacinth
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Shock roster is stacked yea

true hound
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ye but a stacked roster means nothing if coaching is bad

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good thing they have crusty lol

weak bolt
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Viol2t is probably best Zen I'd say

cobalt spoke
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Super is the best rein, Smurf is the best orisa, rascal is the best echo and mei, striker is the best tracer and reaper, twilight is the best ana player, viol2t is the best bap, zen and moira

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That makes 10

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Ohh

weak bolt
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Viol2t is not best Moira or Bap, no way

true hound
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^

cobalt spoke
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Yes he is

true hound
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Alarm exists lol

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viol2t is goated but hes not the undisputed best flex support

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Alarm exists and so do others

cobalt spoke
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Hes not

true hound
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Rascal best echo is also debatable with Fletas echo

cobalt spoke
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Because he doesnt play ana

weak bolt
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Viol2t is probably best Zen, but his Ana is weak and his Bap is ok

true hound
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jjonak zen s1 PogChimp

cobalt spoke
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Twilight plays ana

true hound
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twilight is nutty yeah

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lowkey though

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imagine kariv on a good team

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i think he will be signed somewhere good

weak bolt
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Also we have no idea on Rascal being best Echo any more honestly. When did we last see it

cobalt spoke
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The times that shock did play echo

true hound
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we saw Fleta Echo & Rascal echo, those two were really damn good

cobalt spoke
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They were the best at it

weak bolt
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He was the quickest to play it at a high level, But that was for like 3 weeks after it came out

true hound
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best mei yeah is probs rascal

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haksal mayb

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jk its jardio

weak bolt
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Yaki has a pretty nasty Mei too

cobalt spoke
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Ohh

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I forgot moth

true hound
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moth lucio is damn good

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him and Astro IMO are #1

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FDGod too is in contention

weak bolt
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Moth is the best defensive lucio probably, but overall it's probably Astro

true hound
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moth plays less aggro yea id say

cobalt spoke
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Moth is the best mercy

true hound
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uh

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Ark

cobalt spoke
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We do know that

true hound
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Ark ark ark

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aaaark

cobalt spoke
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Ark is not the best mercy

true hound
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dude

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Ark is so good at just

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not dying

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ever

weak bolt
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Moths mercy is just safe, and he also plays on Shock which will always make him look better

true hound
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Ark has the lowest deaths in the league i think

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im not tryna dispute Moth bcuz ik hes a super good mercy but id say for sure Ark is #1

cobalt spoke
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I didnt even talk about smurfs winston

weak bolt
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Imo some of the Apac mercy players are better

true hound
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smurf monke is rlly good indeed

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id rather call him best winston over orisa cause like

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fuck orisa

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boring ass hero and theres not much to see about whos the best on her imo, shes just hella slow and tape down m1 gg

cobalt spoke
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True

weak bolt
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Shock players also rarely look bad because their whole team is amazing.

cobalt spoke
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Yea

weak bolt
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Doesn't necessarily mean they're #1 at their heroes

true hound
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individually theyre all damn good tho but other teams have those, its just shock can actually like

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make use of that

cobalt spoke
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Well shock definitely does have the most players that are best on their heroes

true hound
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eh even Shanghai were top notch at most

weak bolt
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Everyone in shock is probably top 5 on their heroes for sure. Then when you ahve a team with all their players like that, they do well

true hound
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then you have fuel with decay lmao bad players good dps

weak bolt
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Where other teams may have a top top dps or support, but the other roles are not

cobalt spoke
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I didnt even talk about choi

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Choi has the highest teamfoght winrate on sigma

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Idk if hes the best tho

weak bolt
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Again, Choi is consistant, but wouldn't say he's #1 on any of his heroes

cobalt spoke
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But atleast top 3

true hound
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his sigma and cr0ngs sigma

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r really good

weak bolt
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Marve1 / Gargoyle / Cr0ng on Sigma are all exceptional

cobalt spoke
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Why cant we just have all the teams come to na?

weak bolt
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because not everyone in the world lives in NA

true hound
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cause big rona

cobalt spoke
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So have them fly here

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Thats what 7 of the shock players did

true hound
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would be a lot of effort and money

cobalt spoke
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True

true hound
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considering apac teams r like

weak bolt
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You realise how much viewership there is in APAC?

true hound
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from apac lol

cobalt spoke
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Alot

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So how about you just have 10 and 10

weak bolt
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OW probably makes a lot of money from Chinese/Korean markets. Bring everyone to NA and you screw that over

cobalt spoke
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And then swap them around?

weak bolt
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Because it's cause chaos to do that

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Teams have Visas, apartments, complexes and all sorts

true hound
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on a side note i remembered this from the season

cobalt spoke
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Washington signed mag

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Mag is a main tank player

viral veldt
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Any news on when season starts

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This is going to be a whileZenyattaCry

cobalt spoke
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April

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It starts in april

viral veldt
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Meh not that long

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Like 5 months if I ain't stupid

next mesa
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yeah

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they pushed it back I think

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prob for ow2 release

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but honestly who knows

bronze scroll
next mesa
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interesting

bronze scroll
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I guess the day is slowly heating up

worn falcon
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Woah KDG

weak bolt
digital cloud
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danteh oof

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please stay

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you are all we have

hot heart
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roar does not want roar
@digital cloud pain

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Hold up

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KDG To defiant

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Is defiant actually making an effort to do something with their off season

opaque ginkgo
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πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

digital cloud
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legitimately how is roar in owl

umbral zodiac
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supposed to be their Winston specialist, but Lullsish got stuck

plush light
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Where does everyone think whoru will go?

next mesa
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with ryujehong

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for their redemption tour obviously

silk frost
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why the FUCK is KDG on TORONTO

karmic grotto
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NA becoming great I see

weak bolt
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Toronto did say they wanted to make a team capable of winning

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Maybe they aren't going to just cheap it out

hot heart
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What org owns Toronto

weak bolt
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Overactive Media

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esports/media org

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Seems they have a team in COD, CSGo, LoL

hot heart
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Never heard of them

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why the FUCK is KDG on TORONTO
@silk frost money

weak bolt
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Maybe he's been promised more control over the roster and has more hope

raw ermine
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Ayyyyy KDG

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pogchamp

tidal ridge
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UM

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MAG ON JUSTICE?

hidden vault
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Toronto going back korea

tidal ridge
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justice sniped mag instantly

weak bolt
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Toronto re-signed Logix, so not going full Korean

tropic herald
hidden vault
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Good point

weak bolt
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156 to go

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Honestly LAV should just re-sign Agilities & Kariv just so they can bring back the cooking show

cobalt spoke
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Just saying

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It could happen

dawn quail
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okay_hugeDUpvoted weird_laugh πŸ’―

weak bolt
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Super aint leaving shock for another team. He'd just go stream instead

hidden vault
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Lav is a budget team now

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Just like London

weak bolt
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That video omg lol

hidden vault
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I think things well.be very interesting if houston turned full korean or full korean plus danteh

weak bolt
hidden vault
earnest leaf
slow kraken
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I saw someone say Toronto wanted atleast 2-3 western players

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Or is that spitfire

weak bolt
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Spitfire is aiming for full EU

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also Packing10 biggest troll

hot heart
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I loved the leak

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Best leak in OWL history actually

slow kraken
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Would there be enough EU players tho

weak bolt
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Yes, there is loads

slow kraken
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That have played in OWL before

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Feel like linkzr might go there

hot heart
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BH talent

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And a few OWL players if london wanna spend some more money

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Which they wont

weak bolt
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Linkzr, LHCloudy, Tsuna, Zykk, Boombox, Finnsi, Mistakes, Shadowburn, Lullsish, Kyb, Kruise, Numlocked, Smex

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Thats just to name a few former OWL players

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Ellivote too

next mesa
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hey what's the collegiate varsity series

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lmao

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college teams?

weak bolt
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yep

raw ermine
digital cloud
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awww

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oh well

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no great loss

weak bolt
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Not overly surprising, he didn't play much and got a lot of flak when he did

keen aurora
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they got decay back?

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i wanted decay on nyxl

wide ocean
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Does watching Collegiate Varsity count towards Contenders watch time progression?

keen aurora
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im planning on watching contenders when it starts to get sym and mercy skin

wide ocean
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It’s already at sym and mercy?

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It’s for October.

keen aurora
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u got to earn it

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7 hours for sym and 15 for mercy

wide ocean
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I know

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What do you mean β€œwhen it starts to get”

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You can already earn them

keen aurora
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wait wut?

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WHAT

wide ocean
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They’re October skins.

keen aurora
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WHAT

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frick frick

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alr im watching it now

wide ocean
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It doesn't seem to count if its just collegiate varsity

keen aurora
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yay good job northeastern

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frick

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i just like the contenders genji skin cuz me genji main

wide ocean
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me merky main

keen aurora
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nicee

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i only play mercy when i practice my super jumps and superjump rez

fast tusk
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Whats the most surprising team contract in the owl, to anyone?

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For me its the sf shock

plush grail
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wdym

fast tusk
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You know from the the overwatch league

plush grail
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yeah but like what contract

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like the most suprising signing?

fast tusk
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All the team contracts for 2021, do you know about this

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Do you watch overwatch league

next mesa
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what

plush grail
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yeah but what do you mean with team contract

next mesa
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is he talking about

plush grail
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what is being asked lmao

next mesa
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signing?

plush grail
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shock hasn't signed anyone yet

fast tusk
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Like players leaving teams or staying stuff like that

plush grail
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oh like

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the status of player contracts

fast tusk
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Yes

plush grail
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like free agent

fast tusk
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Yes

plush grail
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idk alot of people are FA

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but im pretty sure the top teams aren't gonna change too much

fast tusk
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Hmm

next mesa
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shock shouldn't like

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do anything

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they don't have to

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their team is perfect

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except maybe sign a promising off tank just in case choi's like burntout

digital cloud
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they might could use a dps for flex

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striker covers tracer, and ans is the hitscan god, but what is ta1yo doing?

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or rascal, I guess

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probably ta1yo is being used for flex, idk

keen aurora
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supers def not going to boston he literally said he would rather stream

next mesa
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yeah they literally have 2 flex players bro

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their team is all good

balmy wolf
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i suspect shock is going for another MS player

next mesa
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I mean

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I don't see the need unless moth is leaving tbh

balmy wolf
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u never know

next mesa
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yeah maybe ow2

balmy wolf
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since owl probs isnt starting until ow2

next mesa
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there's gonna be more main supports

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but then again twilight could prob learn some

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he did play brig

balmy wolf
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flex support is already filled, dps is the weird spot imo

next mesa
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without like ever playing brig ever on the titans

balmy wolf
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since they have 3 hitscan heavy dps with 1 true projectile dps

next mesa
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I mean haksal's brig was such a nut man

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wait wym

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hitscan heavy dps

balmy wolf
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striker and taiy1o can play some projectile dps but its not like rascal

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i dont expect them to play pharah or echo

next mesa
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I would assume ta1yo will be transitioned into like more of a flex/projectile

balmy wolf
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doom? yea i can see them doing it

next mesa
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striker did play pharah

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but it was like

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to meme around

balmy wolf
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well we only just got to FA, we'll see how it turns out

karmic grotto
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I have made a decision

tidal ridge
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dallas is probably not going to get any more good pickups

karmic grotto
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Atlanta Reign did not live up to my expectations. Washington Justice has been looking really lately and they're improving more. So, as of today, I am no longer a Reign fan, but a Justice fan. I was thinking of Dallas Fuel, because of EM core, but you know, I can always buy Fuel jerseys. And I can be fan of two teams, but right now, Justice is looking fire with Decay and Mag

tidal ridge
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i hope justice succeeds but im not a justice fan

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i dont like bandwagoning because of good pickups

karmic grotto
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Atlanta changed so much. Dafran was the hype, then I stayed for the team because I liked the team vibe and atmosphere, however, by losing Babybay and Dogman, I no longer have interest in the team

tidal ridge
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Atlanta and Toronto's branding is so good

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so I want them to succeed just from that

karmic grotto
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I agree

tidal ridge
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toronto just got KDG

tropic herald
tidal ridge
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so i hope they succeed

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im a shock/nyxl fan

weak bolt
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ATL dropping coaches today. Wonder if Sephy is sticking around or if he's gone

limber pine
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Kodak gone too

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I’d bet brad is gone too at this point

tropic herald
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Probably

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Rip old Atlanta

earnest leaf
vagrant jacinth
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Everyday I remember haksal retired and it saddens me

weak bolt
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Wonder if Kodak makes it to the EU based teams. Probably stands a chance

tropic herald
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Oh yeah

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He’d be a good candidate

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I wonder if he plays support or coaches now

weak bolt
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Guessing full coach now honestly, but who knows

tropic herald
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I really liked his zen

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Shame we didn’t get to see him more

worn falcon
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Go ratlanta

slow kraken
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If any team wants a projectile player there is always chipsa

keen aurora
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cant spell covid-19 without c9

weak bolt
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OW leaks all over, meanwhile Linkzr just out here tweeting his Tofu recipe

keen aurora
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Danteh is one of the best flex dps

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oh ye and fleta

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its honestly sad nenne is gone,he was an og

vagrant jacinth
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Linkzr's vibing and playing among us

tawdry hamlet
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damnnn

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I missed contenders

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I missed my chance to see diya again

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he actually played too

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sadge

wanton birch
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would mudkip or lukemino would be decent backups for glads

weak bolt
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They need starters, let alone backups

barren quest
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Any predictions for who Boston may pick up?

raw ermine
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prolly some NA contenders main support

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Zholik sounds good

keen aurora
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im honestly supried seoul got to even quarter finals

weak bolt
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why? Meta allowed them to play some of their best heroes

solar bison
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Plus, they played a lot better than in regular season

balmy wolf
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because the meta suited them the most

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going 12-12 in the reg season doesnt sound like a championship team

prime bone
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is Jjonak washed up?

cobalt spoke
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Wow

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Boston needs a main support?

prime bone
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boston needs to drop colourhex

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dead weight

cobalt spoke
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Wow

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Thats not even a joke anymore

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This is a real thing that could happen

silk frost
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mothston

next mesa
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@prime bone no better competition just got along

keen aurora
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rip moths reputation if he goes to boston

earnest leaf
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boston better be offering moth a fat fucking bag to go to boston

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for him to go

keen aurora
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ikr

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remember when sf c9ed to atlandta in stage 3 last year? u could see moth's face it was hilarious

umbral zodiac
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jjonak isn't washed

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his strats are just outdated

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and playstyle

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he can still be good if nyxl gets a proper coach

hot heart
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He's just stuck in time

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Doing whatever used to work for him

digital cloud
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sf was not a c9

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gator denied with rock, soup

hot heart
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He still has insane mechanics and the 5head to pull stuff off

cobalt spoke
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Jjonak hasnt been the best Zen this season

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You see nyxl play ana in places where Zen is really good, if you have a good Zen player then you would, but nyxl hasnt recently

keen aurora
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ye

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so far they say viol2t is the best zen

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i mean for the season

cobalt spoke
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He is

keen aurora
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ye

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he got 4k

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i leave owl on but in mute to play and when i got back on he started to get a 4k

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honestly im retty sad shanghai lost in the quarter finals

next mesa
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Too bad bitch

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Gestures dick was too big for them to handle in map 5

hot heart
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The main man

upper niche
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I wonder how a JJonak/Moth combo would go. Comms might not be perfect though.

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oh woah, imagine Super and Moth both get paid a boatload to go to Boston πŸ˜„

balmy wolf
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boston has rarely ever spend big bucks for players

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they had success in season 1 but didnt want to spend more and now their a joke basically

hidden vault
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hey who said kodak wss flex support

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he is coach!!

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i mean he was but

karmic grotto
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Washington, my team really got Decay

#

Decay is like the most flexible player in the League

#

Man.. I don't like this mid-season break.

#

I'm too hyped for season 4.

#

Like I was before season 3

#

Counting down, every day (2 weeks until the first match)

edgy tinsel
#

oh woah, imagine Super and Moth both get paid a boatload to go to Boston πŸ˜„
@upper niche super said hed retire before that happened

plush light
#

The mag pickup fills their biggest hole

cobalt spoke
#

True

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Main tank is justices biggest hole

#

Roar 🀒

plush grail
#

He's gone

cobalt spoke
#

As he should be

plush grail
#

He's gone

#

Just like seominsoo

#

And bumper

#

Reduced to dust

next mesa
#

This man's really just said decay was most flexible player in the league

cobalt spoke
#

Bumper could come back

karmic grotto
#

@next mesa PES_TuxedoCigar

next mesa
#

Profits 59 inch pp would like to have a word

plush grail
#

Idk man profit and decay are kinda meh

#

Jerry

#

Is the #1 flex dps

next mesa
#

Nah diem is most flexible I mean he can play so many heroes

#

Like widow

#

And widow

#

And also widow

#

And don't forget widow as well

#

Like damn

plush grail
#

Diem is so flexible

#

He just never has to switch

distant granite
#

He's a good tracer too..

#

he was good tracer and soldier during the apex lol

plush grail
#

Really sucks how soldier got that change before the grand finals

#

If he got the change in the hog patch

#

He might have been meta

#

Or at least viable

distant granite
#

But not even close though hhh

#

the grandfinals was like using the

#

ashe 15bullet ver meta

cobalt spoke
#

I wish hog never got buffed

#

We couldve seen winston and rein gameplay

#

But nooo

distant granite
#

I wonder if Fusions could have gone higher if they played in the hog nerfed+hitscan nerfed version

cobalt spoke
#

Nah

#

Houston just shit the bed

distant granite
#

houston....

#

ha...

cobalt spoke
#

Philly also peed their pants

plush grail
#

I wish hog never got buffed
@cobalt spoke

#

That's fax

#

We could have seen interesting games and playstyles

#

But it just all became fucking hog

cobalt spoke
#

We couldve also seen clashes of the main tank players

#

But nooooo

plush grail
#

Blizzard really fucked up by doing that buff right before the playoffs

cobalt spoke
#

Hog sticks his fat fucking belly into our overwatch league

#

Get him out

plush grail
#

If hog didn't get buffed

#

I bet seoul would never have made the finals

#

Would've been either nyxl or charge

cobalt spoke
#

If lateyoung was their for chengdu thwy wouldve beaten nyxl

#

So unlucky

sour magnet
#

Oh my

#

Mag Jjanu Decay Stitch

cobalt spoke
#

Yep

#

Be scares

sour magnet
#

That’s a top 5 team if coaching doesn’t fuck up

tropic herald
hot heart
#

runaway and EM are legends

#

The players that they bring up to OWL Are always spectacularly good

cobalt spoke
#

Did you guys see that reddit post about viol2t

#

I love Viol2t, but he's always doing some dumb shit

hot heart
#

Man really just bet his career on his brother not being a cheater

viral veldt
#

I can't go on the link?

#

What happened?

hot heart
#

What

#

Idk

raw ermine
#

Tdlr viol2t has a brother who is definitely a cheater but viol2t for whatever reason says he isnt

#

Lemme link the videos

#

Tell me

#

TELL ME

viral veldt
#

Wonder if he'll actually retireKaplanThink

raw ermine
#

This isn't cheating

viral veldt
#

I'll look now

raw ermine
#

He snaps so much

viral veldt
#

I've never been good at detecting cheaters but ig violets gone

raw ermine
#

The government of Korea even rejected his brother's plea for an unban lmaoooo

cobalt spoke
#

That looks like hacking

#

But that also looks like the pixel skipping on my old mouse

#

So idk

karmic grotto
#

cheating*

cobalt spoke
#

Also he did have a completely different mouse when he was at the players house

raw ermine
#

they have another video

#

its less bad, but still sus

#

lul the post got removed

sullen berry
viral veldt
#

Eileen to shdπŸ‘€

sullen berry
#

No it's actually more like Diya

raw ermine
#

nahhh

sullen berry
#

Resignging

#

Trade

raw ermine
#

SHD don't need more players

sullen berry
#

Or run it back

raw ermine
#

dps at least

sullen berry
#

Happy has run it cold for most of the season. Time for an upgrade that can work with Eileen

#

Or Eileen doesn't resign with Charge, see where that goes

hot heart
#

Diya to GZ

#

Diya Eileen

#

Sounds really fucking good ngl

sullen berry
#

Okay so YXL has been sitting on the Chinese broadcasting desk, and spark recently signed a Chinese Caster onto their coaching staff too πŸ€”

raw ermine
#

Didn't their academy team kinda disappear after molly and lengsa got promote

sullen berry
#

Fell out of relevance, ye

#

LGE.Huya and Bilili Gaming should still continue to improve

#

Just not to the level that I've seen with T1W, Flag Gaming, Ultra Prime or Team CC

weak bolt
#

GZC letting go of Eileen would be weird, especially if Nero going too

sullen berry
#

I wouldn't hold it against them

#

They currently do not have a Korean coach

#

Just Ethan Liu (GM), Cassis whose done a lot for this team and Creed

cobalt spoke
#

I think the natural course for the london spitfire is to sign the entire british Hurricane + chipsa

viral veldt
sullen berry
#

Boombox

#

It has been decided then, defective KR roster turns a new leaf and finally branded as a European team

hidden vault
#

Personally it would be great if creed join chengdu too

#

But he didn't like it there so

sullen berry
#

Yeah didn't think he would change his mind

#

His only options were spark or Guangzhou

hidden vault
#

Or shanghai where was from

sullen berry
#

I didn't follow what happened during his time there, I assume only good things off the back of season 1 to season 2 performance

next mesa
#

more like diya going to charge

#

does that mean

#

charge is going chinese

sullen berry
#

GZC Diya, doesn't automatically make it a full Chinese roster

hidden vault
#

How much chinese

sullen berry
#

Team CC are composed of a mixed roster after all

hidden vault
#

I do hope diya will stay on shanghai tho

#

But get play time

sullen berry
#

Considering how angry his fans were when he announced he would be a 2-way during season 3

#

It's been long overdue

hidden vault
#

It is man

#

Guxue got to play 5-1

#

But Shanghai hello?

next mesa
#

well shanghai already has lip and diem, and also fleta for hitscan lol

vagrant jacinth
#

I would be soo happy to see diya

hidden vault
#

time to dump them for diya then

#

laughs in hysterical

silk frost
#

Maybe Dallas go partially chinese with diya

hot heart
#

Yeah maybe

worn falcon
#

Any news? PogChimp

hidden vault
#

nahh

#

dallas too westy

hot heart
#

What

#

Doha Sp9rk1e Diya

#

That sounds nuts

silk frost
#

If they got past the language barrier that DPS line would megaslap

#

Tanks would probably be like Muze or Fissure with Hanbin

#

Supports could be the jehong tobi redemption tout

#

Tour

weak bolt
#

Has D1ya actually played anything decently lately? He had 0 time in OWL from what I remember

silk frost
#

Yeah he and CC have been to China what British Hurricane has been to EU

#

Except worse

#

Because they aren't losing maps in the final

tropic herald
#

Okay but where is OGE signed

weak bolt
#

Just skeptical if a team would really take a chance on him. Being good in Chinese contenders isn't a guarantee of OWL level by a long way

tropic herald
#

Fearless noises

silk frost
#

I mean if a player clicks heads then they click heads

#

Not like tank or support where the best in their roles (ahem PANKER AND ROAR ahem) can suck in OWL, people clicking heads can't be too far off between contendies and OWL

#

At least as hitscan

weak bolt
#

Yeah I guess, but then we've seen players struggle too from Contenders, like Zykk, Tsuna, Dalton

hidden vault
#

Because they aren't losing maps in the final
How is that worse?

silk frost
#

Like worse for everyone else I meant

#

Bad phrasing sorry

hidden vault
#

I see

silk frost
#

Also Dalton and Zykk were mostly struggling because they were playing flex DPS, and Dalton isn't that

tropic herald
#

Zykk was playing for Toronto from France

silk frost
#

Meanwhile idk with Tsuna I just remember never remembering tsuna

tropic herald
#

And Dalton was on genji

#

He’s a hitscan player

silk frost
#

Ik that's why I said he isn't that

weak bolt
#

Dalton played a fair bit of Tracer which is one of his best heroes

tropic herald
#

Tsuna is also from France

silk frost
#

Fair

#

Didn't know that

next mesa
#

yeah I mean dalton's genji was just clown fiesta level

weak bolt
#

I just dont see any of the teams taking a chance on Diya honestly

silk frost
#

But a top player in Contender's on 5/6 roles can suck in OWL, but a top hitscan in contenders will still click just as many heads, there's nowhere near the same disconnect for hitscan

weak bolt
silk frost
#

I think considering how much Diya has been pounding many teams will

weak bolt
#

Omg no 😦

silk frost
#

WHAT

weak bolt
#

Guess we now know why they signed Ta1yo

vagrant jacinth
#

Oof

weak bolt
#

Wonder if he's retiring or going to another team

silk frost
#

Yeah good question

#

THERE is a player people wanna sign

hidden vault
#

They would say if he retires

#

Amother team probably

silk frost
#

Maybe Guangzhou?

vagrant jacinth
#

Would be a sick signing

silk frost
#

Or NYXL maybe

weak bolt
#

GZC would make most sense I think, especially if Eileen is moving on

silk frost
#

Probably not

#

Nero is tho

tropic herald
#

Pain

hidden vault
#

Shocking giving away so many good players lol

silk frost
#

points gun is that a pun

weak bolt
#

Rascal is the kind of player who wants to start every match. He probably wanted to move on and Shock let him

silk frost
#

Probably

weak bolt
#

My guess is he stated it mid way through S3, and it's why they picked up Ta1yo

silk frost
#

Where would he 100% start do ya think

#

Oh no here's something cursed

#

Rascal to Boston

hidden vault
#

Or the fact they just want new blood to keep the championship going

#

Rascal back to dallas

#

Haha

silk frost
#

They have 2 flex dps

weak bolt
#

Justice perhaps?

silk frost
#

Could work maybe

hidden vault
#

Good then

weak bolt
#

Decay Rascal

silk frost
#

If Decay is gonna only play hitscan

hidden vault
#

Great

weak bolt
#

The most volatile DPS line in OWL history πŸ˜„

stuck radish
#

noooooo rascal

silk frost
#

Birdring rascal

tropic herald
#

Rascal to Glads please

weak bolt
#

LAG would be a good shout too, but I think they'll keep Mirror

limber pine
#

Yes please

stuck radish
#

why has like every flex dps player been released

#

wtf

silk frost
#

Don't worry not Dalton

#

Lmao poor dalton

limber pine
#

Lots of players are getting released

true hound
#

what would rascal in glads do tho

limber pine
#

Don’t look too much into it yet

silk frost
#

Birdring Rascal

weak bolt
#

Because most flex dps players barely played last season, and teams probably want cheaper contracts

hidden vault
#

Glads is keeping things cheap and i expect them to continue to do so this season

true hound
#

You already have kevster tho

stuck radish
#

yea but there was so many flex dps people

silk frost
#

Just like apex

true hound
#

and he’s like one of the best players in EU

stuck radish
#

getting released

hidden vault
#

So probably mot glads

silk frost
#

But the apex duo

#

Also Kevster is half hitscan half projectile

weak bolt
#

Rascal is going to be hot property, especially if OW2 is going to play any part in S4 OWL

tropic herald
#

I want Birdring Rascal blackmanwhat

true hound
#

birdring widow is soo good

silk frost
#

Yeah so many New heroes

#

All of them being DPS because fuck support players

weak bolt
#

Give me Rascal to Seoul. Rascal/Profit duo with 5 new heroes

silk frost
#

Rascal profit?

true hound
#

gg

silk frost
#

Feels wasteful

#

I think rascal NYXL would be best

weak bolt
#

Rascal isn't a huge upgrade over Libero imo for NYXL

silk frost
#

But he is an upgrade

#

They've been trying to upgrade for so long

#

And this one finally does it for you I think

weak bolt
#

I guess its possible, especially if rumours of Arachnide going to NYXL

silk frost
#

So sad

#

Where head coaches go to die

weak bolt
#

Best bit is

cobalt spoke
#

Rascal can still go back to shock

weak bolt
#

5 mins after Rascal announcement, that goes up

silk frost
#

Lmao

#

Rascal won't go back unless this is a giga jebait tho

cobalt spoke
#

Ohh

weak bolt
#

@cobalt spoke They just posted a farewell post for Rascal

silk frost
#

We've been jebaited before

weak bolt
#

Shocks social doesn't usually mess about with meme/jebaiting I think

#

Also people like Andy Miller, Cory and so on have posted in replies, so looks legit

silk frost
#

Yeah ik but there's still the 1% chance

weak bolt
#

That's summed it up for me

#

My bets on Justice is his destination

cloud latch
#

decay rascal :O

cobalt spoke
#

Justice doesnt need rascal

#

They have decay and stitch

weak bolt
#

neither of which flex?

cobalt spoke
#

1 is a Hitscan player and another is a flex + hitscan player

#

Decay plays tracer and other heroes who skirt the line

weak bolt
#

neither play Mei, Genji, Echo, Doom etc.

viral veldt
#

Chipsa said hes probably going too focus on streaming sadgeZenyattaCry

tropic herald
#

Good

next mesa
#

rascal leaving shock?

#

why

#

this lowkey doesn't make sense

#

so many new heroes coming

#

there's no way he's gonna get benched

plush light
#

Decay is flex

next mesa
#

what the fuck

plush light
#

Justice have ttuba

next mesa
#

rascal left its official

#

wait

#

this is so sus

#

where can rascal even go

weak bolt
#

Justice, LAG, NYXL, GZC, Spark?

next mesa
#

nyxl?

#

does justice need rascal

weak bolt
#

Rascal vs Ttuba

next mesa
#

actually yeah

#

they could use a 2 flex

#

with more heroes coming

#

rascal would be a small upgrade over libero imo

#

idk if its worth the synergy

cedar coral
#

Bye bye rascal πŸ˜”

next mesa
#

whatever we'll see

weak bolt
#

Agreed, but then he's also got a far more aggressive playstyle, which nyxl need

next mesa
#

well

#

are they even going to stick to an aggressive playstyle is the question

#

now that haksal is gone

weak bolt
#

and if Arachnid is going there as rumoured, might be close ot Rasal

next mesa
#

and whoru

#

okay true

next mesa
#

did choi not know

weak bolt
#

He will have done, just social clout

next mesa
#

rascal probably wanted to leave

#

I would still take rascal over ta1yo

#

now ta1yo's gonna have a lot of pressure on him

weak bolt
#

yeah agreed. I really do think he wants to start on a team, and Crusty signed Ta1yo as he knew

next mesa
#

I really thought that ta1yo was there to relieve some of rascal's stress but I guess not

tropic herald
#

I think Ta1yo is good enough to replace rascal tbh

cedar coral
#

Is rascal gonna join another team?

tropic herald
#

The only times you’d miss Rascal is his Mei

next mesa
#

and his echo

#

and his every projectile

weak bolt
#

They probably have faith in Ta1yo

#

Or, Crusty has had 6 months to work out it wont work, and sign another star

raw ermine
#

Nahhhhhhhhh rascal gone

#

I say nahhhhhhhhh so much i now autocorrect to it lol

next mesa
#

yeah he's gone for sure

#

from shock

real gyro
#

Rascal released ):

raw ermine
#

Plat chat did the episode on sparkle and that lot, and JUST missed rascal's release

echo quest
#

Ah rascal left Feelsbadman

#

SFS prolly didn’t want to give him as much as he asked for

wanton birch
#

is he retiring or no ?

plush grail
#

is he retiring or no ?
@wanton birch just leaving shock

#

im willing to bet

#

he just wants to start on a team

#

and i agree tbh

#

he's kinda just wasted talent on the shock bench

worn falcon
#

no more 3peat SFS

#

sadge

cobalt spoke
#

You are assuming ta1yo is bad and that hitscans arent op

#

Which is just wrong

plush grail
#

wait who said ta1yo is bad

cobalt spoke
#

He didnt say it

wanton birch
#

i mean was rascal not the best echo in the league

cobalt spoke
#

He was

#

He was also the best mei

#

And a top player on all proj dps

#

Im so sad

tidal ridge
#

rascal and nero

#

2 flex dps still Fa

karmic grotto
#

Rascal gone? Ai

#

Some team has poached him.

#

Nevermind

#

He will likey retire

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

I just saw someone about that

next mesa
#

why would he retire

#

oh wait actually it might be possible

weak bolt
#

Feels like Shock knows its the case, it's all Goodbye messages rather than good luck on future etc.

next mesa
#

yeah its reasonable actually

#

you two-timed

#

got nothing else to accomplish in terms of overwatch

wanton birch
#

You can still achieve a fatter bank account

next mesa
#

maybe life isn't all about money idk

earnest leaf
#

Inb4 he becomes a coach for shock

weak bolt
#

He could easily become a streamer

#

He was pretty popular

tidal ridge
#

im interested to see how good mag is in the league

next mesa
#

everyone is bro

#

if he turns out to be trash that will be pepega

earnest leaf
#

so long as he gets better supports i'm sure he will do well

edgy tinsel
#

Someone pick chara 😦

raw ermine
#

Omg I feel sad

silk frost
#

think he tried out for Florida?

raw ermine
#

How about the entirety of the ow fan base donated like 5 dollars and we make an owl team and sign all these players that we feel bad for

digital cloud
#

the entirety of the ow fanbase donating five dollars would not cover the buy in

#

well, OWL fanbase

silk frost
#

how could 80 dollars get a roster?

digital cloud
#

I think he assumes there are a bunch more

#

but even if there are a million fans (and I think that is pushing it), it wouldn't work

silk frost
#

my guess is 250k

#

that could get 7 players

digital cloud
#

yeah, but then buy in

next mesa
#

40m

silk frost
#

id

digital cloud
#

even if they lower it by a fuck ton

silk frost
#

idk

digital cloud
#

no way we ever cover that

#

plus we all argue like hell

#

we would never agree who to get

#

except maybe jehong and bumper

silk frost
#

maybe Tobi

solar bison
#

Did chara underperform this year?

weak bolt
#

We'd have to veto decisions of outlaw fans πŸ˜„

digital cloud
#

hey

silk frost
#

...

digital cloud
#

I am realistic at least

silk frost
#

sameish

digital cloud
#

I am not like the fangirls and shit at the homestands

#

I admit we suck

silk frost
#

also Chara kinda overpreformed imo

digital cloud
#

we really suck

#

we really, really suck

silk frost
#

the real houston fans hate houston

digital cloud
#

we had Danteh and Meko

solar bison
#

So if he overpreformed, why wouldn’t he get picked up

digital cloud
#

and we still did ass

next mesa
#

jehong jehong jehong gang

solar bison
#

Or are no teams looking for main support

silk frost
#

EVERYONE wants a ms

weak bolt
#

He'll probably get picked up somewhere, but depends how much he's asking for

solar bison
#

I guess

silk frost
#

waiting for London to sign every MS

cedar barn
#

Does overwatch have cross platform for switch???

#

I’m trying to do esports with my switch

next mesa
#

no

cedar barn
#

Darn

silk frost
#

sadge

#

Collegiate overwatch played the symba comp btw

weak bolt
#

How on earth does a symbra comp work, that sounds horrible

silk frost
#

symba\

#

sym bastion TP on statue

weak bolt
#

ohh

silk frost
#

on kings 1st

weak bolt
#

I read it as Sym/sombra lol

silk frost
#

oh no ew lmao

solar bison
#

I read it as Sym/sombra lol
@weak bolt same

silk frost
#

twas the symba

#

me and a few friends made it back in like early 2019 or late 2018 or something I have a video of it

solar bison
#

Atlanta signature comp

#

Symba

silk frost
weak bolt
#

yeah porting bastions around is very memey

silk frost
#

here's where it all started

weak bolt
#

I like porting torb turrents around instead

solar bison
#

Less danger

silk frost
#

it was before role lock originally so we actually did sym bastion torb

solar bison
#

Can you teleport bullets?

silk frost
#

turret covered hacks, bastion with the damage, and sym with movement

#

no

#

we put ana on top in spawn

#

she could heal the bastion

#

then rein for shield and d.va for any peel for sym, ana, or rein

#

it only works in open lock where rein is more likely to be played, although I have seen it come back a little bit for 2/2/2 without Sigma being as big of a problem

#

although Sombra crushes it really hard without a torb turret

#

we spent hours making the comp

#

wtf is anyone watching overwatch collegiate this looks... good

#

crazy

hot heart
#

WAIT

#

THEY RELEASED RASCAL

#

Bri

#

Bro

#

Why

weak bolt
#

Rumours are he's retiring

silk frost
#

it'd make sense

#

his time has kinda passed

weak bolt
#

I suspect after 2 championships and his time at London/Dallas, he wants a change of scene

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Still

#

The guy's a freak

weak bolt
#

I could see him trying to stream something like Stratus did

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Im assuming Ta1yo is gonna fill rascals shoes

#

Which will be very big shoes to fill indeed

forest talon
tropic herald
#

Ta1yo will be good replacement

hot heart
#

But i believe in ta1yo

weak bolt
#

yeah. Makes sense to assume Shock have been aware of this and it's why they signed Ta1yo mid season

hot heart
#

Probably gonna take a hit from crustys crack pipe

#

And becomes the new sinatraa

weak bolt
#

Sideshow nails it really

solar bison
#

100 percent

silk frost
#

Rascal moves over to Valorant and joins Sinatraa

weak bolt
#

I think he could well go Valorant or maybe LoL?

hot heart
#

This is the funniest shit I've seen this whole offseason

karmic grotto
#

When you just make a team

#

of streamers

#

and end up winning the tournament

#

no scrims

raw ermine
#

The banana brawl?

karmic grotto
#

Yed

#

ML7 team won

#

Undefeated

raw ermine
#

they do have 3 ex contender players

weak bolt
#

That team is pretty stacked. They could probably be a dominant contenders team if it was worth it to them

cobalt spoke
#

No

#

Not true

earnest leaf
#

who was all on the team?

cobalt spoke
#

That was pre open division

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Literally tier 4

raw ermine
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ml7 awkward shock harb kafeeeee kragie

weak bolt
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Awkward, Kafeeee Kragie and Harb have all been in contenders

next mesa
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Yeah I mean they're kinda pog players

raw ermine
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So Beasthalo has joined an NA contenders team

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I thought all ppl who leave an owl team either sit there for a while, retire, or go to another one

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lmao

weak bolt
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Quite a few just go back to contenders, especially if they barely made it into OWL

raw ermine
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ik but its such a rare occurance

weak bolt
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Fearless and Rascal both went back to contenders after dropping from an OWL team, sometimes it can work out

raw ermine
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yeah but in the times of now