that's a mixed roster which is actually good
#esports-discussion
plush grail
weak bolt
Danteh is probably on a low wage contract as he was signed like mid season in S2
plush grail
it just annoys me
when meko was a tank duo with mano
he FUCKED
he's just wasting his potential
weak bolt
Mano is fucked because of the nyxl policy of give Jjonak all the resources
weak bolt
NYXL are in a weird spot, they have some promising talent, and some semi washed talent who are fan favourites. Who do they focus on
plush grail
please dont tell me you think sbb is washed
forest raven
NY been mediocre since season 2
weak bolt
He's not garbage tier, but they aren't going to win OWL with him
next mesa
you mean just s3
has been a bad season for nyxl
because ny was an elite team in s2
just fucks up in playoffs, like usual
weak bolt
NYXL could easily drop Sbb, Anamo, Nenne, Hotba and Whoru. Find some good replacements, and have a chance at contesting in Season 4
weak bolt
I'd keep Mano, Bianca, Jjonak (If he can adapt his play style), Haksal, Mandu and Libero. Then add in some new talent
If they want to win OWL
plush grail
sbb and jjonak are confirmed staying
weak bolt
That's the problem, do you commit a roster slot to someone who isn't going to be played?
plush grail
they just need coaching rn and maybe a tank change
weak bolt
My worry is they wont be able to change the dynamic if they keep all these older players. They needed to adapt this season and didn't
next mesa
dude the ny coach
fuck what's his name
starts with I
anyway he was smoking some shit
weak bolt
imt
plush grail
nenne on sombra
next mesa
why not put sbb on sombra
hot heart
Some decisions make no sense
next mesa
his sombra was a nut in goats
hot heart
Ye
weak bolt
That can't all be coaching though. The scrims must be giving some sign that it's their best style
next mesa
idk
weak bolt
I think you convert sbb into a streamer like they did with Pine. Keep him assosciated with the org
hot heart
He's too good for that
next mesa
dont do sbb like that
hot heart
I wanna see nyxl
With good coaching
Then after that
Decide who leaves and who doesnt
They dont have that luxury though
This year is NYXL's last season
They have the pieces
They fuck this up there is actually no hope
weak bolt
Do they have the pieces though? If you do roster comparison vs Shock/SHD/Fusion? I'd say they are lacking a lot
next mesa
idk I just think they need a decay-like hitscan
haksal mano still top tier
jjonak learn to stop being so aggressive still monster
weak bolt
I think at minimum you need 1 top hitscan, 1 really good main support, a top tier off tank, and potentially a 2nd flex support
next mesa
anamo and mandu's all good man
they should stick to bianca
not hotba
imo
but yes nenne can't compete
weak bolt
Anamo is ok, but good enough to be championship winning? idk. Didn't see enough Mandu to judge much
weak bolt
Nyxl signing Glister/Xzi would do them a lot of good
karmic grotto
Ah yes, I will now commit watch to earn Mercy and Symmetra Contenders skin
still waiting for Zarya though
next mesa
fuck dallas
weak bolt
Xzi, Hanbin, Danteh and Junkbuck to Dallas. Dallas S4 champs
hot heart
Doha Xzi Onigod
next mesa
I think he's more explosive than nenne
weak bolt
Would Pine keep up in modern OW though? We've not really seen him since S1 and that was different OW
hot heart
Hmm
If he still plays widow mccree
Yes
I think he will
Its like saya and diem for me
weak bolt
S1 OWL was all about individual plays, now its more about team work and synergy
next mesa
did we doubt that saya can come back next season
hot heart
Nah
weak bolt
Saya has been benched all year in fairness
hot heart
Ye
next mesa
like just on stream
weak bolt
I think it'd be a step backwards for NYXL to sign Pine honestly if they want to win OWL. If they just want ot sell Jerseys/Merch then go for it
next mesa
u never know dude
pine just might be the hitscan they need
obv all speculating
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW DUDE
weak bolt
yeah it'd be a risk vs signing someone proven this year
next mesa
Why would xzi and hanbin want to leave though
next mesa
it makes 0 sense
weak bolt
Xzi and Hanbin removed all the Paris stuff from their socials
next mesa
they just got sparkle
weak bolt
What if, and big if....
hot heart
Ifk
weak bolt
Xzi, Hanbin and Rush all to NYXL
next mesa
Rush?
next mesa
that makes like no sense though nyxl would have to drop a lot of players
hot heart
No doubt
next mesa
idk
wanton birch
danteh to glads
weak bolt
Rush = Paris head coach
next mesa
wasting all those time
balmy wolf
🇪
hot heart
E
hot heart
Sports
next mesa
why is your name john in chinese
hot heart
Its in the game
balmy wolf
Why not
next mesa
weird
balmy wolf
Someone who understands
next mesa
WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE PARIS
hot heart
And who needs their talents
next mesa
hot heart
THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR REASONS IDFK
wanton birch
if gladiators where to sign danteh, myunbong and fissure where would they rank
karmic grotto
I don't see that roster working together...
weak bolt
Because Paris aren't that great if they keep committing to all their french players
next mesa
They're not though
hanbin gets all the playtime
xzi gets playtime over soon
fielder is a nut
sparkle is a nut
wanton birch
all the french players getting cheques for sitting on the bench
weak bolt
Players also may want to be Korean based with everyone going on. Especially if Xzi has wrist issues still?
hot heart
Sp9rk1e hasnt been amazing on anything other than the genji
next mesa
doom
also yes his sombra is doodoo
but he doesn't even play sombra like why didn't they let soon play sombra
kinda weird
weak bolt
Sparkle was the biggest overhype all season. His only real good play was on a broken OP hero with the whole team giving him resources
weak bolt
Because people cream themselves over Genji blades
next mesa
role star wasn't 100% fan voted though right
also, everyone had a shot on genji he was just too good
tropic herald
Because people casters cream themselves over Genji blades
woven smelt
also profit shouldve goten it over ans
weak bolt
His Genji is top class, no objections there, but outside of that and maybe Doom, what does he give to a team
next mesa
nah
as much as I love profit
12-12 doesn't justify an all star
role star*
now in the playoffs yes
but this is regular season
weak bolt
Have Fuel released all their dead weight yet? Tomorrow could be a busy day with a lot of LFT posts
karmic grotto
Big brain galaxy take for S4
Fissure is going to get signed, or he will become a coach
weak bolt
I can't imagine Fissure back in owl honestly, not unless Justice get desperate
weak bolt
as a coaching position maybe, but would many teams take the risk when he has little/no experience at it
next mesa
where is mag going
next mesa
yes
karmic grotto
Anyway, today no announcements?
I wonder if these teams work together to announce
I wonder if they're thinking, that their investments were not rewarded
weak bolt
Dont think we'll see signing announcements for a while, just LFT/Releases
karmic grotto
This is not a leak, but breaking news. Outlaws doesn't announce it yet, but I think they will soon
raw ermine
Houston taking all the good coaches
and still won't will LUL
first harsha now junk
I hope this doesn't get screenshotted and used against me in a year
karmic grotto
Harsha was a fluke though
But now
This guy has Shock mentality
I bet he will make the players work
vagrant jacinth
Way to go houston
digital cloud
now they need good players
vagrant jacinth
weak bolt
Wow Houston actually made a decent signing
idle lance
anybody has any idea of when an open division for SA might start?
upper niche
It's Houston.
hot heart
We had paris last year
And now we have paris this year
If they make good pickups
I could see them being good
balmy wolf
Paris got a GM from shock
hot heart
Not any special
balmy wolf
Rush was the coach
hot heart
Id assume he still helped coaches
balmy wolf
But i dont really think plugging in a shock coach changes much
earnest leaf
junkbuck might of taken one last hit of crusty's crack pipe before he left, so maybe he can do something
maybe make them not a garbage tier team
hot heart
junkbuck might of taken one last hit of crusty's crack pipe before he left, so maybe he can do something
@earnest leaf just maybe
Who would they even pickup
Like
The one player
Youd ever keep
Is danteh
And he's an FA
Hopefully they resign him
If they dont
Its over
earnest leaf
keep meko, re-sign danteh
give moth a fat fucking bag
if xzi actually left paris get him
earnest leaf
Lmao
balmy wolf
I think outlaws going budget this year
earnest leaf
that's actually a solid core
hot heart
Go the route of Valiant?
And get a really good coach
That could work
But
They need amazing scouting
hot heart
Id assume so yeah
Now
Who are the biggest prospects from NA and KR contenders?
Havnet had time to watch contenders this season
upper niche
There have already been some rumours of AU contenders players being picked up
At least one player from Mindfreak and another from GZG
raw ermine
Why did liquipedia write Junk to houston?
yeah its prob gonna happen
but its not confirmed
wet oak
When is the next match for overwatch league contenders?
raw ermine
its Overwatch contenders
their isn't "league" in the middle
North america doesn't play for a while
the closest next match is in 6 hours
its Chinese Contenders
or Korean contenders
next mesa
mindfreak is the one that frogger is on right
hot heart
Yeah
earnest leaf
balmy wolf
No it was another team
hot heart
Nvm they lost 0-3
GZG won AUS contenders
Saw a tweet from Their offtank Adam
He's LFT rn
Unter vouched for him so thats something
He also got 4600 in NA with 180 ping i think it was
vagrant jacinth
Yo I didn't see, danteh a fa
hot heart
Yep
sullen berry
mindfreak is the one that frogger is on right
@next mesa he's said on Twitch he's probably done fucking around with esports. But they had a solid run despite no scrims throughout the season
Thank you, kid @mint turtle
burnt pagoda
Dont forget toclaim your free contenders skins on overwatch
raw ermine
him and Harsha were on OWWC together
hot heart
Is it just me or have i never heard that term used before in OWL
digital cloud
danteh isn't guaranteed gone
upper niche
Frogger to shock
@hot heart To Dallas
valid oxide
Yeah, hasn't Harsha and Junkbuck worked together before? They might end up working well
valid oxide
next mesa
yeah dont know who that is
jehong gm 👀
super unlikely but still
dude I forgot haksal was taking a break
idle oyster
did sinaatra leave owl?
silk frost
a while ago yes
idle oyster
oof
silk frost
he's in Valorant
idle oyster
oh
next mesa
popping off
hot heart
NOOOOO
eternal badge
Should I stay up til 3 to watch the contenders game?
viral veldt
What time is it for u rn?
eternal badge
1130
viral veldt
If u want to
eternal badge
Think I could get 15 hours only watching games this month when I’m awake?
fringe laurel
Is it for the free skins?
nova quarry
Someone knows how to get the contenders skins???
hidden vault
roger live in 15
tawdry hamlet
Danteh and Linkzr free agents!
Yay
I wonder where they goin
Why'd spitfire dumb highly 
Highly is not bad
Would be sick if london picked up myun honestly even though it'll never happen I'd love to see him work with glister for some reason
dry mesa
danteh and linkzr could still end up resigned to outlaws
will follow them wherever they end up tho
upper niche
It's OWL Sacking day!
hot heart
Ayo
Hol up
GZ dropped Krystal
Why'd they pick him up in the first place then lmao
Wait
They dropped wya too
silk frost
istg I thought I saw Ameng getting booted from Chengdu and I almost screamed
tawdry hamlet
the day chengdu drops ameng is the day I stop liking them
he is their claim to fame
they have like nothing else to like lolll
tawdry hamlet
who is the best dva in the league
dry mesa
ameng is my favorite hammond player
twilit garnet
What about the yetle or whatever the fuck they’re name is
I’m allowed to swear right!
?
dry mesa
idk, as long as it is not at some one or a slur i think its ok
twilit garnet
Ok
sullen berry
I come back from work and FINALLY
one person has been entertained by contenders getting their own skin drops - right now
- Symmetra skins after enjoying 7 hours of live Contenders content.
- 15 hours you will automatically receive a set of Contenders home and away Mercy skins.
- Your hours will reset at the end of the month.
to be a pro korean player you must pose yourself arms cross with a smug look on your face
Meanwhile, in Korea:
keen warren
@sullen berry I got money on Runaway taking it away
keen warren
Hero Plays
sullen berry
Kalios just not a consistent winner
keen warren
I was about to say why Run Dive into Reaper Hog but fuck it they made it work
sullen berry
so naturally pulling for an O9 is bound to happen on Busan
so glad to see solider getting play time from Mer1t
sullen berry
nup
sullen berry
assassin's hanzo is sharp
sullen berry
y'all mind if i boop the shit out of your dragonblade?
keen warren
Did he hack the winston?
Genius combo, I thought Pelican threw by doing the hack without the EMP
sullen berry
he just decloaked and the team had their attention diverted
keen warren
That's some 400 IQ play holy shit
sullen berry
really early personally
keen warren
Need to see Hitscan God Kitty on Hurricane
sullen berry
yeah it's wild
O2 giving too much up
runaway snowballing
they give off seoul dynasty playoffs energy
keen warren
They can win the set fights but they don't have the sustain when it goes to like brawl madness
Runaway just being scrappy af
sullen berry
Mission: Kill MAG
keen warren
They Demeched Woohyal, forced the Bomb, had the EMP somehow get teamwipe by a bob and the rest of Runaway
sullen berry
this is a fantastic cold open
pixie delivered
it just kind of fell into the hanzo/genji animated short
haha
omg
that's one way to go out
keen warren
Bruh that's some GOT monologue
New fan now
Made it sound like Runaway was about to charge the gates of hell
@sullen berry is Pixie the Play by play caster?
keen warren
Lmao his analogies tho are proper
sullen berry
"I imagine them, sat alone in the throne room - their advisors have turned coat,
their honor guard has abandoned them, and they see stood in front of them,
the face of the assassin sent to kill them.
Thus the rein of O2 Blast looks poised to end" - Pixie
"And they get their REVENGE." - AVRL
sullen berry
Ana and Ashe would be swell
hot heart
Hmm
I asked this question before but im not sure if i got answers
So
Here we go again
Who are the top prospects from KR and NA conteders? (Haven't watched Conteders)
sullen berry
name anyone from the current runaway roster
Gen.G and Talon are also up there as good picks in KR, since they're not in high demand as Element Mystic and Runaway
If you want names, there's MAG 
Stalk3r 
Choisehwan MCD 
Valentine Na1st
I don't follow NA to know how they would fare, but these look pretty good in NA
sullen berry
yeah we're only getting started with the nukes
watch more top 8 teams bin pieces of their rosters
it's the smaller releases that will really hurt
though I don't know what's in store for NYXL fans
keen warren
Contenders Team Pics > OWL Team pics
sullen berry
How COD players think they pose in league photos 
What COD players actually look like:
ZEBAG phoning in the 0-3
📞 👨🎨
keen warren
Who's the Favourite for this matchup? @sullen berry
sullen berry
EM
I think aztac gets overhyped for his team
and the IM37/Valentine combo is deadly
but not as killer as that MN3 highlight we saw
hot heart
Ayo
What
Meko is FA
Twitter
Meko back to NYXL
The return
Where would mekO go
So many teams with top level offtanks
ATL maybe
karmic grotto
why?
plush grail
https://twitter.com/MekOppa/status/1317022300462444544?s=19
@hot heart fucking FINALLY
Twitter
hidden vault
go back nyxl meko...
tropic herald
raw ermine
That was rather useless, signing krystal
sullen berry
you could say the same of like colourhex on toronto esports when they changed to uprising academy
man went from sydney drop drop bear to the states and waiting in line to join the main roster
someone else can look after krystal's unpaid debt to Spark
weak bolt
Bunch of stuff overnight, did I miss anything?;
Houston: Hired -> Junkbuck, Exploring Options -> Danteh/Meko
Charge: Dropped -> Neptuno, Chara, Wya, Krystal.
Seoul - Dropped -> General Manager
Chengdu: Dropped -> Baconjack, Ating
sullen berry
Hooreg, that's it https://twitter.com/Hooreg/status/1316959165437366272?s=20
Twitter
vagrant jacinth
I thought chara was p good, surprised they dropped him
raw ermine
Baconjack and ating are gone?
next mesa
yep
raw ermine
Hmm are they lft
raw ermine
Ok
Bruh the charge give an entire message for krystal after he got dropped from the main team after being there for a few months but Houston can't give one to linkzr or muma
weak bolt
Ating only really looked decent on monkey, and even then didn’t look great
sullen berry
also spark posted this hearfelt message of chinese caster XiaoGui leaving the broadcast - it's quite magical for the guy 
https://youtu.be/in0uonqxpbQ?t=1031
limber pine
players don't officially become free agents until the 23rd
so it's possible the teams are waiting until then if they can't make a deal
that's the difference between the teams making an announcement vs the players
raw ermine
Baconjack has retired from overwatch to complete his studies
quartz cairn
stellar and mag
bruh
also are NA games rigjht after EU games/
i can literally leave it on from 3 to like 8 or 9
next mesa
u get any tokens?
karmic grotto
what tokens?
next mesa
are the contenders games on the overwatch league channel
next mesa
oh yeah
tight hill
Who is the person to watch in contenders?
tropic herald
Like? Good teams?
tight hill
Like individuals who will be in the league next year
tropic herald
Well EU is on rn right?
tight hill
Ok
tight hill
I don’t watch much contenders thanks for help
tropic herald
Drifters and T2DA from NA are good teams as well
And then if you watch Korean contendies
RunAway is fun
And Talon
There’s another team in Korea that’s cool but I don’t remember
next mesa
O2blast?
vagrant jacinth
Element mystic maybe
plush grail
vizility owl when
raw ermine
^
plush grail
sucks how the last dutch player in owl was brussen on boston
he was doomed to fail there
closest we have to a dutch player is logix
raw ermine
their are a lot of dutch in contenders
vagrant jacinth
What does he play?
raw ermine
Brussen is an off tank
worn falcon
Twitter
clear crane
Bye OGE
worn falcon
Someone save Mek0
clear crane
I can see him to Washington. They wud be unanimous winners in the Decay/OGE trade
worn falcon
clear crane
But I can see Justice keeping Roar if it makes Decay happy given both former KDP
hot onyx
Honestly if justice want to make any solid achievements without a double off tank meta they release roar asap
raw ermine
Moth is iffy
karmic grotto
Jesus
wanton birch
I think it’s because people replying seemed really angry
hot onyx
Damn they silenced moth like the Chinese government silenced peaceful protesters
worn falcon
Justice should get MAG
clear crane
They should
not too sure what this follow-up tweet implies
everyone releasing their main supports cause they are gonna throw the bucket of cash at Moth 
limber pine
I doubt it
hopefully teams are smart enough to offer a contract first before getting rid of in-house options
limber pine
!!owl2021
young fractalBOT
Roster Construction Rules for 2021 OWL Season: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/roster-construction-rules-for-2021-overwatch-league-season
r/Overwatch 2021 Rosterpocalypse Megathread: https://redd.it/jbnajq
limber pine
the 12th is when player trades can be submitted
the 16th is when they must exercise options
so if you wanted moth, you really should have done it by now.
or at least, that's how I interpret it
clear crane
today shud be juicy
weak bolt
OGE to Justice, called it few weeks back and people said I was crazy 😄
limber pine
OGE just replaces Roar wherever he goes
next mesa
SLIME SLIME SLIME SLIME SIGN SLIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
next mesa
ttuba doe
plush light
I think jecse would be good on Justice
next mesa
why would gesture and profit leave
plush light
They wouldn't.
next mesa
kinda just got second place
plush light
I'm being hypothetical because I want decay profit dps duo
I think pine said on stream that he's trying to get signed to a team
next mesa
fr
raw ermine
Liquipedia is making it seem like Krystal and Wya got dropped from both GZC and the academy
they didn't do that did they?
The main roster yeah
but prime as well?
weak bolt
Liquipedia still has Wya and Krystal listed as Active players on GZC Academy
weak bolt
Those numbers dont take into account that with Shock you have Viol2t doing a ton of dps that is going to naturally reduce your dps' overall damage too
April 2021 is the proposed start for OWL S4 currently i believe. But it wont be 100% confirmed anywhere for a while
clear crane
Blizzard should run an NBA-bubble style. Whether here or in APAC. Similar to how every team operated out of LA S1 and 2
i dont think we will see any normalcy till late 2021
weak bolt
NBA bubble worked, but other sports it hasn't worked for them as good. I think when you can play online, it's the safest option
clear crane
yup which is why i think it will work with this
u dont need them to meet in person, but have everyone in close location so latency is not an issue
clear crane
and u can match everyone against each other eventually rather den an 13-7 or whatever split they want
silk frost
How the fuck is boink STILL not released
vagrant jacinth
Mystery my dude
torn fossil
Juckbuck
weak bolt
He could well have taken a coaching position internally
Houston haven't even done a goodbye post for those who are gone, left alone for someone moving into new role
weak bolt
and lose all your NA viewership entirely?
weak bolt
Depends on the Org though, to move you have to move a whole lot of things, not just players
and Misfits is an US Org, they want an NA presence I'd suspect
flat ridge
did someone got the Symmetra's skin? the contenders one I mean
next mesa
if they were to choose one region
flat ridge
cuz i've watched the whole KR's contenders and I didn't get her
weak bolt
Mutual decision between him and team to leave. That's all that has been said
torn fossil
Ah
weak bolt
They won't ditch a whole region. They'll stick to NA and APAC. What they can do, is prepare for a mid season tournament that covers both regions in 1 location perhaps.
silk frost
I heard the covid vaccine may be done early next year so that may be possible
weak bolt
Regular season April - June. July/August reserved for a special tournament of Apac/NA, then August - Sept rest of season, and Oct/Nov Grand Finals
All depends how much risk teams and OWL want to take honestly
silk frost
I mean the NA/APAC thing was mostly because of how the APAC teams were already there because of homestands
So for all we know they might scrap it entirely
vagrant jacinth
Yeah yeah, I don't mind the apac/na split but we do need more inter-region play
next mesa
really surprised that the matches were so close after not playing against eachother for months
all map 5s and a decent grand finals
(we dont talk about fusion)
autumn basalt
fusion didnt see map 5
vagrant jacinth
Philly didn't see map 4 nvm about map 5 
next mesa
vagrant jacinth
Yeah fr levy, all in all it was a fantastic grand finals
next mesa
fr fr fr fr fr
vagrant jacinth
Off season news will have to sustain me til the start of next season
next mesa
tsk
clear crane
It will be interesting to see how teams fill out MT and now looking like MS for next year
tropic herald
They released OGE 
worn falcon
i'm wondering one thing, would NYXL drop the entire roster and rebuild?
next mesa
either yes or no
valid oxide
digital cloud
Houston looking with hunger in their eyes rn
weak bolt
Shock are letting their coaching staff go, scary
next mesa
crusty?? 👀
weak bolt
Doubtful
weak bolt
I think people are learning from Crusty and then selling themselves on his success
next mesa
sucking crusty's iq
weak bolt
NineK last year, Junkbuck/Arachne this year
next mesa
weak bolt
It makes sense, when you hear stories of how bad OWL level coaching actually is
silk frost
Houston just keep getting the scraps of Shock
next mesa
danteh
digital cloud
I wouldn't say he was the scraps, exactly
he is still rather good
but yeah, Houston is pretty much trying to piggy back off shock most of the time
clear crane
tough wharf
who dat
silk frost
oh they're going european then
clear crane
Basically implying they are gonna promote hurricane to main roster
and work on keeping their academy team as a farm team
like Uprising and BU
Got a good feeling they will be a bottom 5 team
karmic grotto
It's not like they care
They just want Western representation
As they should have had since the beginning
And you know, maybe it won't be that bad
BH is actually dominating so hard in EU Contenders
hot heart
WAIT
limber pine
Paris was able to poach Soon and others from NA
next mesa
what
limber pine
it's possible London can do the same
clear crane
prob have HC opportunities
hot heart
Crusty's gone mad
next mesa
better pay
next mesa
also there's nothing left to acoomplish
hot heart
Imagine arachne to Washington
clear crane
Crusty shuda gone back to Boston
hot heart
That would be sick
raw ermine
bruh they dropped arachne
clear crane
bet there will be news hes some HC in a few days
karmic grotto
I wouldn't say dropped, that sounds negative
silk frost
mutually left
silk frost
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764712872185167872/766717198034796564/unknown.png
My friend made some... interesting 2021 power rankings
cobalt spoke
No shot
clear crane
very hard for any rankings to be made with the offseason moves lol
other den Shock/Shanghai/Philly at the top
since i dont see much changing with those 3 teams
raw ermine
how tf is toronto below london, london doesn't even have a full roster
silk frost
like predicting where teams will be at the start of 2021
silk frost
and HUK IS MOSTLY GONE CRAB RAVE
Mineral will be replacing him and his duties I believe
limber pine
we're like 3 months away from realistic power rankings
clear crane
hard to call that an upgrade haha
silk frost
yeah but it's fun
next mesa
ok
I mean
ok
lik what if decay fuckin leaves
just drops justice down to like d tier
clear crane
im veryyy curious to see what Titans do
silk frost
Mineral actually knows how competitive teams work and Huk knows how to make money, so Boston might be able to keep some of their talent for 2021 rather than selling their best players
limber pine
I could see them keeping shockwave and blowing the rest up
or selling shockwave and blowing it all up
true hound
proper tier list
silk frost
maybe with some actual time to coach and build their synergy and stuff they'll be good
clear crane
i think they have to pick up a true flex lol
silk frost
jesus fucking christ even as a meme Houston should be lower
clear crane
NYXL might be blowing it up
silk frost
probably
next mesa
I think titans should go fuck themselves
silk frost
they're one of the longest cores in Overwatch and you know how long standing cores go
silk frost
Carcar yes
next mesa
KSAA is good right
clear crane
lotta teams need new supports now
silk frost
yeah
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yeah
clear crane
Glads got 0
silk frost
Roolf is kinda okay I think
next mesa
jehong redemption arc
silk frost
with time he could be good
clear crane
Someone needs to throw 500k at Moth
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we don't even know the salaries
silk frost
that's not happening
clear crane
lol
silk frost
I know Decay had like a 400k salary in season 2 or something wild like that
next mesa
imagine paying the guy 400k and he just skurt skurt
clear crane
i thought space was on a crazy high salary
silk frost
probably
clear crane
finance in owl is very difficult tho
silk frost
Vancouver should get rid of Tsuna and Carcar, but besides that I think they can build on what they have
clear crane
esp if the entire league itself is not making omney
silk frost
they are
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its crazy to me
clear crane
seoul pays everyone
clear crane
they have the luxury of being the only korea-located team
silk frost
I was about to say
clear crane
if they ever expand they shud look for a busan team
clear crane
its based off investors
u need the investors to want to pay for a team
hence why theres so many US based ones
silk frost
I'm hoping for a pacific team (probably like Sydney) and a nother couple Korean teams
next mesa
its crazy though
apac should have more investors
considering esports is soooooooooooooo much more popular there
tropic herald
The fact that there is only one Korean based team in OWL is crazy
karmic grotto
yet
clear crane
its all about league there
raw ermine
5th I think
earnest leaf
So outluls are doing a full rebuild it seems
next mesa
ya
raw ermine
But a team Busan would be nice
silk frost
Busan Blasters
clear crane
yup but league is pretty much a safe bet to profit
next mesa
I wonder if they're gonna make a seoul map
clear crane
while overwatch is still on the fence
silk frost
Junkertown Queen pls
clear crane
so if today is the last day for teams to pick up options, im expecting a lot more LFT post later today
silk frost
prolly
tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
Yo cool
next mesa
london hurricanes
vagrant jacinth
Confirmed they're going western so far
raw ermine
hm
vagrant jacinth
Yup, London going into rebuild mode again
raw ermine
ok when does Boink go
digital cloud
he is untouchable, he is the real life equivalent of Lucio
no one can reach him
safe 30 meters in the air on his wall of untouchable-ness
hidden vault
Even muma is not king
digital cloud
Muma is gone, so yeah
clear crane
I wonder if Boston sells Fusions to London
hot heart
Boink is the real bench god
I wonder if Boston sells Fusions to London
@clear crane
Probably
clear crane
Chipsa for starter on Spitfire
if they want EU representation you cannot get bigger than that
next mesa
have you guys seen the super video
He said that ana was actually better than zen
viol2t is just a freak
which is understandable
