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vagrant jacinth
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Profit and gesture realising their funds lookin kinda low

hot heart
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Pepelaugh

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They're gonna hold seoul hostage

vagrant jacinth
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Your playoff money, hand it over

next mesa
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I wonder if illicit is gonna stay

digital cloud
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Hot take, but my dps line would be Fleta, Ans, Edison, and Haksal

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Tanks I agree with

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Working on support

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I always forget which supports are main and which are off, so that is the main issue

next mesa
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Edison??

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no striker??

digital cloud
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Erster*

next mesa
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I can see haksal

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just as a doom and genji player

true hound
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w8 dps lineu for what

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sk owwc team?

digital cloud
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Most ideal possible team

true hound
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ah

vagrant jacinth
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He'll probably stay right, as back up probably

digital cloud
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4 dps, 4 support, 4 tanks

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Heck, base it off of past versions or players that don’t play anymore

true hound
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id probs take Profit/Haksal/Saya/Xzi

digital cloud
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Season 1 jjonak

true hound
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the chad himself

hot heart
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Saya xzi

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Why not Ans

true hound
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oh

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Saya/ANS or Saya/Xzi then lol

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maybe even Fits tbh

hot heart
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Tbh from the players you just named

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Id pick Ans Fits no questions asked

digital cloud
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This is the most ideal 4 of all roles

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Go nuts, I just think Erster is still a god

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And haksal

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But flex gods work too

raw ermine
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if you have 4 spots then you can specialize more in DPS roles

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so have a HS hitscan and a tracking one

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A highly aggressive projectile and a defensive one

true hound
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@hot heart y would you pick anyone over saya tho

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hes the best aimer god gamer in ow

hot heart
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Flexibility

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And fits is a beast

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So it isnt that much of a loss in terms of the widow

true hound
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Fits does have more flexibility yeah

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widow cree doom & sombra

raw ermine
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I still can't believe fits lost on round one of the widow 1v1 against glister

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This team was made on the 29th

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and it's already gone

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they went to contenders trials

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lost

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and everyone ditched

vagrant jacinth
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Glister pog lmao

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Oh dear

next mesa
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like someone said widow 1v1s aren't that important

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but they also kinda are

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well they're not

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but they're something

vagrant jacinth
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My boy soon was dunking on everyone

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The dinkzr was too strong

next mesa
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ksp losing is like hmm

hot heart
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SAYA'S GONE

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NOOOOOO

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@true hound

limber pine
hot heart
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O

limber pine
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ha I beat you

hot heart
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Nah

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I did

true hound
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NOO

hot heart
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Anyway

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Zalty is forever sad now

vagrant jacinth
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pepehands

next mesa
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WHY

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someone pick him up

limber pine
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hopefully whatever health issues he had are resolved

hot heart
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Dude

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Saya bouta fuck next year if he gets picked up

next mesa
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he might not

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even be in overwatch anymore

raw ermine
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Who gets signed first pine or saya

hot heart
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Saya

next mesa
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idk

hot heart
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See

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Im not sure if either of them will play Tier 1 OW again

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Seen as hitscan is as stacked as it is

next mesa
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I don't doubt big boss pine can fuck

silk frost
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Big Boss Pine vs someone like Ans, Xzi, or even Soon seems a bit rough im9

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Imo

limber pine
raw ermine
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aw man kris as well

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I guess he was mediocre

hot heart
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Whaaa

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Whyy

raw ermine
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his brig was good tho

hot heart
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He was good

limber pine
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maybe they're getting Unique

hot heart
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O

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How good is unique?

digital cloud
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there is no one quite like him

hot heart
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Bdm tsh

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I appreciate that joke

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But fr

limber pine
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Unique is a top support contenders player IIRC

hot heart
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If you were to compare him to someone in OWL

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Who would you compare him to

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Myungbong?

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Well not myungbong

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He's a FS

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Hmm

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Ig mayhem need an upgrade there

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Im so hyped for mayhem next year

limber pine
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oh I have no clue

hot heart
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Hm

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Mayhem are one of the few that can become super teams

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Or almost super teams

shell onyx
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excited to see next season mayhem but im also sad

hot heart
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Ye

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Saya being gona is sad

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But

shell onyx
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saya is my fav owl player

hot heart
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Hopefully he'll get picked up

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He's cracked

shell onyx
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like since it started

karmic grotto
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Not gonna lie

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But Including Asian Contenders in Asian Region

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That's fucking lit

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Runaway is one of them

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But tournaments, so it's ok

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But imagine

next mesa
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myunbong myunbong myunbong myunbong

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myunbong 15 inch lnog schlong where are you going

karmic grotto
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in korea

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with boston

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Boston gonna do a good offer with him and the new korean coach

next mesa
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no fuck boston

plush grail
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I watched some sayaplayer highlights

karmic grotto
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We should not forget that Korean coaches have a different philosophy with the game

plush grail
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and he's hella cracked

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why didn't he play more?

karmic grotto
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They provide more than Western coaches can

next mesa
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fuck boston all my homies hate boston

raw ermine
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he got injured

plush grail
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he really got screwed then

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his season 1 team looks so mediocre and forgetable

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like 90% of the guys who were on his team either left or were meh at their role

next mesa
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saya was the only reason why mayhem was like even slightly relevant

digital cloud
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yeah, yaki and bqb aren't shit

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gargoyle either

raw ermine
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I think they meant s1

digital cloud
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and the less said about gangnamjin and fate the better

next mesa
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duh

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wtf

digital cloud
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don't go back on it now

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you were wrong, no matter what you meant

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clarification means nothing in the face of righteous anger

limber pine
hot heart
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CRAYON NOOOO

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Mr.Crayon has left us

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This is a dark day

digital cloud
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not Korean

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anything but him

next mesa
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what ???

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obv I meant s1

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say didnt played this year

digital cloud
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I know that, that was why I was being sarcastic when you clarified

next mesa
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oh oh

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bruh cant tell

digital cloud
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I was trying to make up for Adriel not being here

next mesa
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text bel ike

digital cloud
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fair enough

next mesa
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karayan

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whats up with him

raw ermine
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He was the reinhardt

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the equivalent of super on florida

limber pine
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I thought he played a little Roadhog too

next mesa
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so are they ditching everyone except gargoyle yaki bqb

raw ermine
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and gangnamjin

next mesa
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yes

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sure

raw ermine
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I don't remember Karayan playing hog

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maybe he did

limber pine
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well 2 bench players and Kris

shell onyx
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Jesus

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florida getting a remake

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i wonder if saya stays at owl or swaps to like valorant

raw ermine
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I checked his stream

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I think

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he didn't stream valorant I believe

next mesa
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yes

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so we'll see

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he'll make post later

raw ermine
vagrant jacinth
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stay pls

next mesa
hot heart
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Bro

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The purge

next mesa
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Mayhem just decided to drop everything today

vagrant jacinth
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lmao

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mayhem going wild

next mesa
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OMG

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SHOCK DROPPING SOMETHING

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IN 30 SEC

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wait n

raw ermine
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?

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lMAOO

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this?

next mesa
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YEAH

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nvm

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might just be a meme

valid oxide
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So I guess Kris leaving means Mayhem is going with GNJ and Byrem as the support duo?

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Or could they be picking up someone?

karmic grotto
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wtf

valid oxide
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FUCK

next mesa
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They dropped byrem

karmic grotto
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Mayhem going budget route

next mesa
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@valid oxide

valid oxide
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I JINXED IT

next mesa
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what

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no

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you posted that after he got dropped

valid oxide
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I didn't see it

cobalt spoke
hot heart
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4 players gone

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The purge

next mesa
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dude

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why did I think that choi post was gonna be an announcement

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lmfao

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got jebaited

limber pine
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is the florida purge over yet?

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I think anybody else would be a surprise

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well, more of a surprise

karmic grotto
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@next mesa don't believe everything

next mesa
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justice fucking jebaited us dude

karmic grotto
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Yes but no

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it's more that they want to hype us

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decay is in a spotlight

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recently he got his twitter account active, had justice background and his justice profile picture

next mesa
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I don't see why decay would leave

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justice got hella potential

torn fossil
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Why does fusion still have chipsa

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He does next to nothing

plush grail
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publicity

hot heart
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Yeah

plush grail
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whenever he gets played

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tons of people start watching

torn fossil
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Ah

plush grail
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so if fusion is against a bad team

torn fossil
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Hes been played once

plush grail
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just play chipsa and atleast get some publicity

mossy helm
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if anyone knows anything about college OW can they dm me?

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very interested

plush light
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Wtf is Florida doing. If they drop gangnamjin they need a mental hospital

raw ermine
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these drops make sense

hot heart
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100% not dropping gangnamjin

raw ermine
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anything else would be questionable

hot heart
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See

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I think kris is still somewhat valuable

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But if they have eyes on someone

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Thats star talent

torn fossil
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As long as they dont drop gargoyle

weak bolt
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Florida can drop these players now, they've proven their org isn't a total dumpster fire now and will likely attract better Korean talent

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Keep the good players, BQB, Yaki, Fate etc. Drop the dead weight

cobalt spoke
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Who's the dead weight?

weak bolt
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Kris, Saya, Byrem, Karayan

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Saya/Karayan weren't ever going to see play time again, and Kris/Byrem were rotated with neither looking good

hot heart
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Hmm

dusk nova
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super ego

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is beyond the roof

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they need a whole toher house

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tocontain it

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im new here hi

worldly sluice
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привет

fringe laurel
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Hi, and yes his ego is through the roof

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I dont like him 😐

true hound
vagrant jacinth
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welcome

inland flare
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When is season 4 coming out

fringe laurel
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Next year maybe

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But its pretty boring without the audience

vagrant jacinth
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nah still good, better vibes with the crowd though

hot heart
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I feel like next year is just gonna be half online

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Half LAN

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Thats if cases start getting better

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Which they probably wont

weak bolt
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Next year currently scheduled ot start April. Rumours of them proposing to delay it though

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Current reports say still 2 regions, NA and Apac, with Spitfire/NYXL to move back to NA region

hot heart
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Sounds about right

weak bolt
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Rumours on it suggest a mid season tourney that is cross regions, and then other tournaments in between. APAC tournaments to be boosted by Korea/Chinese Contenders teams to counter the # of team difference

fringe laurel
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How many teams are apac region

hot heart
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That represent apac?

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5

fringe laurel
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🙃

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So na has 15 god dam

hot heart
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Of course there are t2 teams in korea and china

weak bolt
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Currently 7, but if NXYL/Spitfire move back, then only 5

hot heart
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And if that rumour comes true

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Increase in teams in APAC

fringe laurel
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Apac needs more teams then. cough Sydney and tokyo

weak bolt
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Can't just add teams though unless you have a bunch of orgs willing to throw $40mil at OWL

next mesa
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dafran is playing off stream, locking the legs

vagrant jacinth
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there's a lack of apac teams ye

fringe laurel
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Spark, charge, dragons, dynasty, whats the 5th one

vagrant jacinth
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hunters

fringe laurel
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Oh yea, I forgot about them lol

limber pine
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Everyone forgets about Chengdu

hot heart
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Until they do something

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Or until ball is meta

earnest leaf
hot heart
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Wha

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What

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Okay then

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Thats

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Idk

tropic herald
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London Linkzr

hot heart
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That sounds so cool for some reason

valid oxide
tropic herald
hot heart
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Welp time for houstans purge ig

next mesa
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xiaogui

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小鬼

earnest leaf
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I bet danteh is gonna leave next

raw ermine
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Linkzr not getting resigned?

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bruh

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muma was obvious

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if anything, he will drop to contenders

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but with how NA contenders is

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I doubt he'll resurface

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Somebody commented "god I hate muma" and it has more likes then comments?

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ik he isn't good but bruh

fringe laurel
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Everyone is leaving ZenyattaCry

digital cloud
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Muma was bad, but he doesn’t deserve to be hated on

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Just let him fade away

tropic herald
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I think most of these players who are mechanically washed should try coaching

hot heart
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Yr

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*ye

vagrant jacinth
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Wow, not resigning linkzr?

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Sign him up London lets go

digital cloud
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why would London want him? dude is so inconsistent

hot heart
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Hasnt he been much more consistent over the latter half of the season

digital cloud
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he was a fair bit more, but it wasn't like he was consistently at his high end, you know?

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like, his high end is legitimately able to beat the best widows, so if he was able to do that consistently, he would be a hot commodity

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but he just has flashes of that, and is mostly mediocre

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though if you had a team with no Widow or Ashe, I would say he would be good enough to fit the bill with no other better options

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he is like a budget version of a good hitscan

earnest leaf
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In defense you could point to his inconsistencies to his team

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His team was always pretty mediocre if not just straight bad

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I would be curious to see if he was surrounded by better players if he would stay inconsistent or stick to a side

digital cloud
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sure, his team was bad, but really good players still tend to shine on bad teams historically

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myungbong, for instance

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decay on dallas

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he maybe could get better with the right coaching, but he just seems to boom easily

hot heart
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Yeah

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Who are houstan signing now

earnest leaf
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That is true but every player is different

hot heart
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And why do i feel like its going to be huge

earnest leaf
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And also constantly being on a dogshit team has gotta be mentally rough

digital cloud
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they did hint a few days ago they had big news

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but not a peep since

earnest leaf
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Like how they lost what was it? 4 or so games at the last fight of koth 1-1

hot heart
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Hmm

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It must be around the corner

digital cloud
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they always lose map fives

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it is the curs

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curse*

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they get boomed

weak bolt
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Did Houston literally drop everyone lol?

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There twitter doesn't even bother to name players they want to thank

valid oxide
digital cloud
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blase no

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he was semi decent

raw ermine
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his cree was cracked

digital cloud
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the best to ever walk the stage

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we want signings outlaws

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signings

weak bolt
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Blase Muma and Linkzr all posted LFT

earnest leaf
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Signing will take a while

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teams need time to scout and finalize contracts with players they want to keep and what not

weak bolt
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Danteh just posted "Uhhhh"

digital cloud
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hey, don't give me reason

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I want results

earnest leaf
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heh fair

valid oxide
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Welp, Saya is a valorant player now

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Goes by Spyder and plays for T1 now

digital cloud
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is that a joke?

earnest leaf
digital cloud
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wait, so t1 is putting him on a team?

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dang

earnest leaf
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poor valorant players

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gotta play vs saya

next mesa
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What the fuck

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Ok gg

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Valorant scene is dead

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Because now there's no competition

digital cloud
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Corey

valid oxide
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Here I thought Riot is sucking the OW esports dry, but it's actually Blizz's doing

digital cloud
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Maybe

next mesa
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Saya>every gamer in existence

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Aiming wise

digital cloud
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Though Saya vs Corey is a toss up

raw ermine
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oh no

valid oxide
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Grike doesn't know PepeLaugh

digital cloud
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What do you mean?

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Did corey quit Valorant?

valid oxide
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No, Corey is ASS at valorant

digital cloud
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I thought he was entry fragger for Faze?

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He can’t be that bad, he has good aim

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The other stuff is not that hard to learn

hot heart
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YO SAYA TO T1 WHAT

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Saya actually bouta fuck

next mesa
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Saya is

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god

raw ermine
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his name is "Spyder" now

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not saya

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can saya speak english?

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he is with 4 other NA and a NA coach

tropic herald
raw ermine
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season is 2 months shorter?

true hound
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Saya went to valorant

raw ermine
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isn't that the opposite of what Sephy said they should do?

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he did :(

fierce trench
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Shame

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We're problably going to have valorant replacing overwatch

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and its so slow

weak bolt
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Houston let Dream go as well, they're clearing house

next mesa
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They need more matches

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because imagine scrimming 7 hours a day for a whole week just to play 1 match and get swept

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Mayhem in the comments

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"Take good care of him"

hot heart
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Sadge

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You know what

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Imma watch some valorant if it means i can watch saya again

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Spyder is a cooler name tho ngl

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Reminds me of widowmaker

earnest leaf
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Valorant can't really replace ow

hot heart
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Maybe he took inspiration from widow

next mesa
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yes

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I bet he did

earnest leaf
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They are wildly different games

next mesa
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yes

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only thing it might replace is csgo

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and that's a big maybe

hot heart
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Yeah in theory

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Nothing is really like OW

earnest leaf
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OW and OWL can only die from themselves imo

hot heart
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Thats the reason why i dont think it'll die out for some time

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OWL maybe

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A year

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2 at best

next mesa
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overwatch 2

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only hope now

hot heart
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OW 2 is the last chance we have

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At making OWL feel fresh again

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And reinvigorate the community

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Time will tell what devs plan to do with OW 1

next mesa
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hopefully they add a bunch of pogchamp characters

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and then the game will be like holy shit

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popping off

hot heart
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hopefully Ow 2 is used for OWL

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And then OWL skins

true hound
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5 broken heroes released at once 😤😤😤

hot heart
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Are based off of the OW2 default skins

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And get an update

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Like

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Imagine OW2 default tracer skin

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Used for an OWL skin

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Instead of the OW1 default skins

next mesa
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what

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pj

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yeah

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oh*

raw ermine
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imagine they release, like, 30 heroes

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lmao

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and every is just shocked

next mesa
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that would be pog, but also not really because like then we probably won't get to see a lot of the heroes anymore

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maybe like 3-4 on release

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and a lot more to come

forest raven
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If they had 30 heroes ready to release (which they wouldn't) they'd space em out over the next five years

raw ermine
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true

next mesa
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they really need to release more heroes though

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like this space

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pace

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it ain't gonna cut it

hot heart
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See

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When OW2 releases

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It'll be like

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Valorant almost

next mesa
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aren't they gonna release like 3 on release

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or 4

hot heart
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Nah

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More like 5 to 6

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7 maybe

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But im not sure about that

next mesa
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we'll have to see

hot heart
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Yep

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Hopefully half of them dont become like brig and create their own meta

forest raven
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Bet on it

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First meta after ow2 releases will just be the six new heroes

next mesa
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obviously

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they better be super cool

hot heart
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They probably will be

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As much as we bash OW devs sometimes they made an incredible game with incrediblely well designed heroes

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Other than brig

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That one was a mistake

sullen berry
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But even then brig is a likable and loveable character for as much as a soldier or D. VA

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Which is amazing as it is marketable

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Also

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Going to speculations on season 4 format

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Mideason tournament seems to be much needed

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I'm more amused at the thought of Team CC, Runaway or even O2B taking out an OWL Trophy and not have to bear the same costs to buy into the league to play against the top on their region

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If that happened

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Then academy teams might have been a good long term investment after all

next mesa
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gauntlet

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gauntlet gives them a chance

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instead of having to buy in, they should take one best t2 team each year and just give them the funds

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ngl

sullen berry
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Since we have to cross that one off for 2020

next mesa
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that's unreasonable though

sullen berry
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I hope they bring back the regional gauntlet

raw ermine
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Imagine Florida mayhem of 2019 vs EM of 2019

sullen berry
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CC vs Dragons TracerHappy

next mesa
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Diya be like, which team do I play for

raw ermine
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lmaoooo

sullen berry
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Diya would hypothetically have to destroy his own team

next mesa
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no

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diya would just win

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its that meme

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play both sides so always come out on top

sullen berry
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100% win rate in season 2

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How about

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Muma signs to Asia contenders team

next mesa
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kinda weird

sullen berry
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Wild card picks his team and manages to score enough clout as the only NA Player in OWL

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Or Nero has a new friend during season 4 to vibe with in China

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Unlikely sure, but nero leaving the Charge is still 50/50

silk frost
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Diya could destroy either team to be fair

balmy wolf
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i hope diya actually becomes a starter

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since hes actually a monster rn in t2

silk frost
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I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR MONTHS

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best hitscan in t2 rn

balmy wolf
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not just him but team CC in general

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if charge is gonna blow up their team for chinese players then team cc is a good start

silk frost
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Houston should dip into CC

balmy wolf
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no western team is gonna hire chinese players

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its harder than you think

silk frost
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I know

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they should go chinese/korean

next mesa
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charge already has like

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wait only eileen

silk frost
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yeah Happy isn't the same as he was

next mesa
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no im saying like chinese wise

silk frost
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yeah

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but I think Diya is better than Happy

next mesa
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oh

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idk

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maybe

vagrant jacinth
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Saya to valaront? Damb, I might watch too just to see him

next mesa
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if he's popping off

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Saya about to become the faker of valorant

valid oxide
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Outlaws really self destructing

balmy wolf
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Lets see if danteh will be LFT as well

digital cloud
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Jecse was good though

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Stupid outlaws

balmy wolf
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thats their fault for having a shit system for the players

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u knew it was bad when their best option for MT was a flex dps

digital cloud
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They should have picked up a my

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Mt*

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Any mt pretty much

pulsar flume
#

yea dude that was a cool match

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also ICEBERG ALERT

hot heart
#

Welp

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Houstan is done for

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Unless they literally go ahead and sign SFS

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Why the fuck

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Would you drop jecse

balmy wolf
#

im gonna be laughing so hard if boink is still in the roster

hot heart
#

These dudes either have a genius plan

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Like

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Incredibly genius

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Or

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Its just them imploding

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And everyone jumping ship

silk frost
#

BOINK STILL ISN'T DROPPED PEPELAUGH

hot heart
#

Dude

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Someone has to check on boink

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Im not sure that dude even knows hes still on outlaws

cobalt spoke
true hound
#

Releasing jecse is so braindead oml

tropic herald
#

Isn’t dream gone too

balmy wolf
#

ye

hot heart
#

Houstan gotta sort themselves out dude

next mesa
#

first jecse gets sucked by tobi then he gets dropped by outlaws

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might as well retire

karmic grotto
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Why does jecse think he will go back to owl lmao

next mesa
#

well he has a chance

tropic herald
#

Boston Jecse

hot heart
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Oh god

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All of the outlaws FA's goin to Boston

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Imagine

karmic grotto
#

Did you all see the in nternet team Shock scrimmed against?

hot heart
#

Hm?

karmic grotto
#

Architect/Xzi/Hanbin/Smurf/Twilight

hot heart
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Cool ig

karmic grotto
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Others as well

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Neko, Kalios etc.
.

hot heart
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Man that would be so sick as like a showmatch

karmic grotto
#

Man

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I wish we had Titans old roster

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That would be Fife

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Fire*

echo quest
#

Sayaplayer

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Joined T1’s

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Valorant team

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Goddamn

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Was not expecting that

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The NA team too

hidden vault
#

damnz

karmic grotto
#

Each day a new team had its releases and FA

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Let's see which one we will have today

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Also, Justice is baiting us >:(

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Also, Houston might become a good team next year?

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Muma finally gone, Hydration needs to go too

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Real MT

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Fissure to Outlaws?

edgy tinsel
#

Spyder is saya

wanton birch
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Is saya the first Korean owl player to got to valorant ?

vagrant jacinth
#

Wow Houston what is you doin

echo quest
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@wanton birch no

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First korean player on a NA team

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Munchkin and bazee

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Were the first owl koreans to leave for valorant

obtuse obsidian
#

Have any of the OW players that have gone to valorant increase their popularity?

echo quest
#

Ik Sinatraa has

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By a shit ton

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His YT gained 50k subs in two months

edgy tinsel
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:(

tropic herald
#

Xzi removed Paris from his bio

vagrant jacinth
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Oop

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Wonder what team is gonna announce their releases today lmao

karmic grotto
#

Ah noooo

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Inb4

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Paris gets Decay

hidden vault
karmic grotto
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One of the team staff / employees?

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@hidden vault do not start simpin man, not worth it

hidden vault
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simpin?

karmic grotto
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Turns out

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Hanbin removed his bio from Paris as well

vagrant jacinth
#

👀

plush light
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Isn't pine rejoining owl

vagrant jacinth
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He's lft owl/contenders

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Just a waiting game to see who picks him up, I'm sure it'll happen

glad pendant
#

hey guys

vagrant jacinth
#

Yo

karmic grotto
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Ah

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LFT

edgy tinsel
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its happened :( @vagrant jacinth

worn falcon
#

Someone hire muma

edgy tinsel
#

No

vagrant jacinth
#

@edgy tinsel experiencing heartbreak all over again pepehands

#

Glister and bernar staying??

edgy tinsel
#

glister bernar fuze jmac sanguinar

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may just be getting traded

vagrant jacinth
#

I weep

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Gonna miss babel the most

limber pine
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trade the best drop the rest

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#London2021

next mesa
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Holy fuck

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I can't believe it

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I mean i can

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but still

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this london team was pretty fire

weak bolt
#

Interesting they kept some. Rumour was it that they were ditching all the Korean players to go Western roster

next mesa
#

yeah

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who did they keep

weak bolt
#

glister bernar fuze jmac sanguinar

hidden vault
#

look at what grim said

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and him^

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i expect half korean half london

next mesa
#

oh

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my bad

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yeah they might be getting traded

weak bolt
#

I suspect it's just those players that teams have interest in and they can recoup some money on

next mesa
#

I hope highly finds somewhere

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maybe outlaws

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idfk bro

weak bolt
#

Give me Glister and Bernar to NYXL

hidden vault
#

i expect outlaws to turn korean

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more korean

tropic herald
#

glister bernar fuze jmac sanguinar
@weak bolt so they kept the good ones that they can trade

weak bolt
#

Outlaws probably go mixed roster + Danteh

hidden vault
#

boink

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hahahahaha

tropic herald
#

How is Boink still there

#

Isn’t he a coach or whatever

weak bolt
#

Boink will be a coach probably, I suspect he's decent at it, and cheap

hidden vault
tropic herald
#

Also Xzi isn’t on Paris anymore

karmic grotto
#

Glister?

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Hello

tropic herald
#

Nothing official yet

karmic grotto
#

is glister still there?

tropic herald
#

Yes

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Can you read

karmic grotto
#

interesting

vagrant jacinth
#

Big sad

#

I actually liked watching this roster ngl

karmic grotto
#

They're going to build around glister

tropic herald
#

They aren’t there for sure but they will be made for money at least

next mesa
#

outlaws would be dumb to dump danteh

tropic herald
#

Imagine if London picked up BH and kept Glister

next mesa
#

the only like top tier player on their team

weak bolt
#

There are strong rumours London are going for a western roster, so I suspect they'll sell Glister etc.

karmic grotto
#

or Trade

weak bolt
#

Yeah, Sell/Trade, whichever

vagrant jacinth
#

Ah man

#

Still, kinda excited to see what happens from here

weak bolt
#

Like you trade Glister for Gator/Hawk, or Sanguinar for Dogman etc.

tropic herald
#

Bernar Fuze Jmac and Sanguinar would be good players to trade or keep as well

#

I’m fairly certain that when people say they are going western it’s not NA players but EU players

weak bolt
#

Probably, but got to consider visa & covid when doing that. Could get a mix.

next mesa
#

bruh dogman

#

crazy how dogman is like the only na flex support

tropic herald
#

Avast said it well

weak bolt
#

Those players kept are likely the ones other teams already asked about. They don't have long to hold them though before they become free agents automatically I think

tropic herald
#

It really perplexs me

#

Who the fuck wants Jmac

plush light
#

What if London becomes bk stars in owl

#

Alarm back on main tank

#

Xd

weak bolt
#

Jmac would likely be an upgrade over Roar

tropic herald
#

I guess

plush light
#

Is jmac aggro enough to play with decay

weak bolt
#

Houston too?

#

I could see ATL, Houston, Justice all showing interest

plush light
#

Washington needs more aggro main support

#

Ark is to passive

weak bolt
#

London only have till 23rd October to either re-sign those players, or they become free agents. So we may find out quite quick

next mesa
#

dude

#

slime to justice

#

im telling you

#

match made in heaven

#

slime is really aggressive too

tropic herald
#

Wait

#

Jmac Sanguinar to Justice

#

Cheap and makes sense

next mesa
#

dafran was streaming?

tropic herald
#

He was definitely not on ladder

#

Not sure if he was streaming or not

weak bolt
#

He was streaming this morning, and playing off stream last night

next mesa
#

dude

#

can finally see dafran

#

with new solider

sour magnet
#

London is so stupid

#

They should of kept glister bernar and sanguinar to Atleast trade

#

With the lack of good main tanks floating around, trading glister and sanguinar or something for a solid main tank would of been so useful

#

But tossing glister out without gaining anything is stupid

weak bolt
#

Keepign Korean players doesn't work if your Org wants to form a western roster though

vagrant jacinth
#

Lmao they did keep them

#

London probs going eu

sour magnet
#

I swear they released full roster

#

... you don’t need to keep to use

#

Keep to trade

weak bolt
#

They didn't release all

#

5 of them were not mentioned

vagrant jacinth
#

^^

weak bolt
#

Those 5 will be sold/traded to fund next season most likely

vagrant jacinth
#

All 3 you mentioned are still here to potentially be traded

sour magnet
#

Okokok I just heard released and came to rant

#

Just getting rid of ur roster is stupid IMO

vagrant jacinth
#

I should've expected it to be London to announce their purge today haha

sour magnet
#

Like Dallas should of traded decay

#

Not just given for free

weak bolt
#

Going to be a lot of announcements today

#

"Oct. 16, 2020: Deadline by which teams must exercise any options to extend existing contracts which were initially executed in 2020."

limber pine
#

yup

weak bolt
#

"Oct. 23, 2020: PSAs signed using the 2020 PSA template that are not extended terminate and such Players become free agents. Players who are signed using the 2020 PSA template whose contracts extend into the 2021 Season begin receiving Base Salary at the 2021 Season rate.

Oct. 24, 2020: Teams may begin signing free agents to contracts for the 2021 Season."

vagrant jacinth
#

Ye

sour magnet
#

Any changes with Shanghai yet?

weak bolt
#

Any of the Pre-2020 contracted players have until Nov 13th before they become FA though

sour magnet
#

I feel like if Shanghai was gonna make any change it would be Izayaki?

vagrant jacinth
#

Idk why but it made me laugh

weak bolt
#

Shanghai are unlikely to release anybody other than maybe Geguri, Dding, Diya and maybe Luffy

sour magnet
#

Oh yeah

#

I don’t even count them tbf

#

I meant like main roster

#

I feel like dding might be kept

vagrant jacinth
#

Shanghai are gonna mostly go unchanged main roster wise

sour magnet
#

Yeah

limber pine
#

!!owl2021

young fractalBOT
weak bolt
#

Literally no reason to keep Dding when you have Fleta

sour magnet
#

Yeah but if fleta gets ill or needs a break

#

He’s a good backup

#

Whole point of subs

next mesa
#

Fleta can play hitscan and projectile

#

dding is just projectile

#

with more heroescoming in ow2

#

idk

#

I think it's a good idea to keep dding

sour magnet
#

The rest of subs can go

#

If Shanghai makes any upgrades it’s for Izayaki I think

next mesa
#

geguri is there for the fans

#

wym izayaki is nice

sour magnet
#

Ehh I think he’s gokd

weak bolt
#

I think you sell him and pick up a potential new talent from T2 scene

sour magnet
#

But on Shanghai I think he’s the worst

#

Not saying he’s bad

next mesa
#

def not

#

he's a top tier ana

sour magnet
#

Yeah but his zen

#

Is uh

next mesa
#

better than luffy anyway

weak bolt
#

Izyaki isn't going anywhere

sour magnet
#

Not as good as some others

next mesa
#

okay that's true

#

not like viol2t level

weak bolt
#

They'd rather sell Luffy and bring in someone else, and have both Izyaki + new player

sour magnet
#

Yeah

#

I just think if anyone on the main Shanghai roster is being changed it’s Izayaki

#

Out of the main 6/7

next mesa
#

yeah and

#

no

weak bolt
#

and which flex support do you pick up who beats Izyaki? Not like there is a bunch of top talent available

next mesa
#

you can't even say myunbong is better

sour magnet
#

I don’t really watch contenders but who else would you change on Shanghai if anything

next mesa
#

they don't need to change anything

#

imo they should also keep geguri for void backup

sour magnet
#

Also for fans

next mesa
#

yes

#

obv for fans

sour magnet
#

Has Chengdu made any adjustments

next mesa
#

like for some shit teams

#

geguri can play

sour magnet
#

Chengdu my favourite team purely coz of S2

next mesa
#

let void rest

tropic herald
#

If Shanghai could get MCD Unique or both that’s ideal

next mesa
#

dafran's soldier is nasty

tropic herald
#

Also could probably drop Dding at this point to get a good second flex dps

#

The issue with Shanghai is they field one roster and look amazing but their B team is significantly worse

next mesa
#

why drop dding though

#

just

#

train him

raw ermine
#

Rip London

tropic herald
#

What does Dding play

#

Hog

#

Pharah

#

Doom

#

Wait

#

No

#

Just Pharah

next mesa
#

he's a projectile

#

pharah sombra hanzo mei

#

apparently

tropic herald
#

And let’s see

#

Fleta LIP LIP Fleta

#

His hero pool is obsolete

next mesa
#

There's going to be new heroes

tropic herald
#

Just give the new heroes to Fleta or LIP

#

They’ll be better

sour magnet
#

I’m Suprised LIP wasn’t MVP

next mesa
#

you take anyone and their hero pool is obsolete

sour magnet
#

He was MVP for me Atleast

next mesa
#

in front of fleta

#

like your argument is flawed

#

you cant just

#

let fleta play everything

tropic herald
#

So why do they have a spot for Dding

next mesa
#

literally burnout

tropic herald
#

They do not play Dding ever

next mesa
#

just like rascal

#

for future

tropic herald
#

Why would you waste a spot

#

When you could get a better player

next mesa
#

that's like asking why do you have ta1yo

sour magnet
#

Yeah super MVP

next mesa
#

on shock

weak bolt
#

Dding would only be useful if you expect burnout from Fleta. I think you'd rather use the spot for an upcoming T2 talent who has potential to be better than Fleta

tropic herald
#

Well, why do Shock have Ta1yo

next mesa
#

For FUTURE

#

PLANS

tropic herald
#

They have Ta1yo because he actually has potential

#

Dding has potential a year ago

#

It’s all gone

next mesa
#

how do you know

weak bolt
#

You can't really say Dding is there for the future, because it's obvious Fleta is better

next mesa
#

dding actually showed potential on stage

tropic herald
#

You know who showed results though

#

Fleta

#

Dding just showed some potential

#

And then we never saw him again

next mesa
#

No one is saying dding better than fleta??

#

?????

#

no one is better than fleta

tropic herald
#

He’s just a spot on the team that could be someone else

weak bolt
#

You likely sell Dding to an NA team like Houston, and then sign a cheaper talent with future potential to match Fleta

hot heart
#

They finally did it

tropic herald
#

Error summarizes what I’m trying to say

next mesa
#

yeah and why risk when you have dding

tropic herald
#

For Shanghai, dding isn’t what they need

hot heart
#

Wait

tropic herald
#

Sign some new talent

hot heart
#

THEY KEPT GLISTER AND BERNAR

#

Thank god

next mesa
#

The odds of the new talent being a complete bust is way more than the odds of the talent surpassing fleta

hot heart
#

Babel would've been decent too

tropic herald
#

@hot heart they aren’t keeping anyone

weak bolt
#

Because keeping Dding doesn't give any long time rewards. Signing a talent can be a bust, or can find you gold dust

tropic herald
#

They just kept the players they can sell

next mesa
#

They can keep dding for the future you can't just ask fleta to pick up every single new hero

hot heart
#

Well fuck

tropic herald
#

Except why would you keep Dding, he’s already shown that he doesn’t even get the new heroes

weak bolt
#

When you have Fleta already, you can afford to take a risk on a new rookie, rather than bench someone who you know their capabilities already and will never start

hot heart
#

I was actually excited for london next year

next mesa
#

He hasn't been given the chance

tropic herald
#

How do you know he wasn’t given a chance

hot heart
#

You could build around Glister bernar and Babel

next mesa
#

because you have fleta

#

why would you play dding over fleta

tropic herald
#

Do you know what scrims are for

weak bolt
#

Dding will have had his chance. If Diem can get back into the team, Dding could have if he was good enough

#

Thats whole point in Scrims

next mesa
#

no you dont get it

#

why would you play dding

#

over fleta

tropic herald
#

You play whichever players give you the best results in scrims

#

Or the players that actually show up to scrims

next mesa
#

and it's obviously fleta

#

lol

#

what

tropic herald
#

Levy, if it’s news to you that players don’t show up to scrims then oh boy

weak bolt
#

So Dding is forever a backup player. Why keep him? You could get a new player with the potential to be a starter, who also fits the backup role anyway

tropic herald
#

This is my exact point

next mesa
#

for the future

#

you really think a new player they signed is going to start over fleta

tropic herald
#

That’s what we said about LIP and Diem

weak bolt
#

a new player coming up could have the potential to play over Fleta yes

#

Dding does not have the potential to play over fleta

next mesa
#

Dding can have in new heroes

#

That's like the same potential

#

we all knew diem had the better widow though

tropic herald
#

There was a brand new flex hero this year and that wasn’t played by Dding

next mesa
#

yeah because fleta is there

tropic herald
#

So that’s the potential you thought he had

next mesa
#

but at one point

#

you can't just always tell fleta to play it

weak bolt
#

There was what, 5 new heroes rumoured for OW2? Assuming at least 1 is tank, 1 support, and 1 hitscan, that leaves max 2 heroes for Dding to learn better than Fleta

next mesa
#

yeah

#

It's like ta1yo is there to fill out rascal

tropic herald
#

Or you could just get a better flex dps than dding who could actually play certain heroes better than fleta

#

pelican

next mesa
#

who is that

tropic herald
next mesa
#

yeah im on the page

#

looking at signature heroes

#

Fleta, Fleta, Fleta, Fleta, LIP

tropic herald
#

Have you watched this guy play?

next mesa
#

nop

tropic herald
#

Wait you didn’t even know who they were

next mesa
#

yes

tropic herald
#

Okay

next mesa
#

so you're saying he's better than fleta

#

so

#

he should get picked up

#

this season

tropic herald
#

He plays certain heroes better than fleta

#

And that’s why he’s better than adding

#

DDING

weak bolt
#

He might not be right now, but does he have the potential to be better than Fleta? S4 is like 6 months away still.

next mesa
#

you dont know

weak bolt
#

Dding is unlikely to improve beyond fleta if he hasn't done already

tropic herald
#

That too

next mesa
#

yeah you dont know

tropic herald
#

Does Dding have a gun against your head or something

next mesa
#

not really

tropic herald
#

Or are you just blind to the fact that Dding isn’t the same as last year

next mesa
#

I just see no point in dropping dding

#

They don't get worse

#

other people just get better

tropic herald
#

Here’s why you drop Dding

weak bolt
#

You drop him to have upcoming talent to make the roster better long term

tropic herald
#

THERES OTHER FLEX DPS THAT ARE BETTER THAN HIM

weak bolt
#

You dont keep a player because they are ok if you want to win championships, you continually improve

next mesa
#

alright