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digital cloud
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Maybe rapel too what the heck

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Basically replace outlaws with the Shock

next mesa
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Ans says "you looked like a tiger in the past but now you look like house cats"

digital cloud
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And then bam

next mesa
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but like this year's dynasty is by far the best imo

digital cloud
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I wouldn’t say by far exactly

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I mean they did ditch Fleta and rjh

next mesa
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yeah that's true

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like I think season 1 seoul was totally a title contenders

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but for some reason they just got fucked

digital cloud
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Fleta at least would apparently have been good to keep

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No idea why

next mesa
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this is all because whoru was too young

digital cloud
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They just looked sloppy

next mesa
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to get into owl

digital cloud
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Fleta and Tobi were gods

next mesa
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what was the problem

digital cloud
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Rjh was probably one of the best supports at that time, jjonak notwithstanding

forest raven
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Tobi is still cracked

digital cloud
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Zunba wasn’t washed yet

next mesa
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yeah tobi is so cracked

digital cloud
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So not sure

next mesa
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like he's so fucking underrated I swear

digital cloud
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He still got it

next mesa
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he's never in the conversation in best ms

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but he's comfortably starting over slime

digital cloud
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Because there are better

next mesa
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idk

digital cloud
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He just is quite good

next mesa
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i think that's a team thing

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seoul is just trash

digital cloud
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But why?

next mesa
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anyway im excited

digital cloud
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They always have food components

next mesa
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their tankline has been a problem this season

digital cloud
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Good*

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That was weird

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Weren’t they playing a mt as it

next mesa
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They forced marve1 to transition into an off tank

digital cloud
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Ot*

next mesa
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just because of his sigma

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and like they don't play michelle

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for some reason

digital cloud
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Michelle is a great tank

next mesa
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and always gesture

digital cloud
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Never got why they never played him

next mesa
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later half of the season

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I mean like

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at the end end

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they won like 3 games in a row with toyou as ot

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and then they don't play him at all in the playoffs

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so im like ok

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but then they do pretty good in the playoffs

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so im like

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ok

digital cloud
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They have reign coach decisions

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That might be it

next mesa
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yeah idk about their coaches fam

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and starting creative over bdosin

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like creative barely got any playtime

digital cloud
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Cuz like, call me a fan boy, but Atlanta should have been great this season

next mesa
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but it's fuckin working so

digital cloud
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And Seoul too

karmic grotto
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@digital cloud same

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As atl fan

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Disappointed

next mesa
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Didn't people put reign as a top 4 team

digital cloud
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I did

next mesa
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and erster as like an mvp candidate

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yeah didn't fuckin work lmao

digital cloud
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To be fair, many teams stepped it up this year

next mesa
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yes

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and I like it

digital cloud
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But reign was still sort of trash

true hound
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Justice 😤

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Yeah

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They were just meh

next mesa
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the level of play this year kinda just

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elevated

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imo idk

digital cloud
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But Atlanta competed against Shock and New York fairly evenly last year with basically the same players

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I think it just has to be coaching

true hound
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isn’t it same coaching staff tho

digital cloud
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But idk

karmic grotto
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Castores

true hound
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ohh

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and he’s with Shock rn

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Oof

karmic grotto
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Casores

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They let him go

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Look what happened

digital cloud
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Well it isn’t guaranteed it was him

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Just saying the change this year was big

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I mean gator was absolutely one of the best sigmas last year, and was great in contenders, as was Hawk

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But maybe they just got washed or something

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Idk

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Erster looks less godly overall at least

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And dogman...

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You know

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It is probably dogman

next mesa
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probably

worn falcon
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Inb4 dogman moves to casting

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He was awful with avast tho

digital cloud
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He was so awkward when avast roasted the reign lol

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I don’t even remember what he said but it was gold

next mesa
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should avast do that though

forest raven
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It was during all stars

plush light
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Wtf is la doing releasing biggose and shaz

karmic grotto
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How you mean wtf? Players don't stay in a team forever, unless they're top caliber

true hound
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i think a lot of ppl stay on 3 year

gloomy vector
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it depends on the contract

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if the player is smart they wouldnt sign a multi year contract

worn falcon
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LOL about time

raw ermine
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The tweet didn't load

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but I could tell what it was about

next mesa
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unkoe is lft for valorant

raw ermine
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yeah

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says right there

tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
topaz fable
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to day is my birthday

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i m koreanTracerSalute

raw ermine
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||its fake in case you can't tell||

topaz fable
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today is my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I m korean

raw ermine
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Happy Bday

topaz fable
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thank

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do yuo know korea?

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Have you been to Korea?

raw ermine
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yes I have heard of korea

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no I haven't

topaz fable
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....

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korean is very good country

true hound
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goat

next mesa
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CARPE

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LETS GO MISTER SECOND PLACE

tropic herald
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You are making me want phillyto win

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Come on man

next mesa
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philly ain't beating shock bro

cobalt spoke
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Philly might be able to beat shanghai

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Not even my opinion, plat chat said that

hidden vault
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Was brad Atlanta 's head coach?

elfin flame
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quick question

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what do i do if i didnt get owl tokens for watching

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because i feel like i should have received more than 5 tokens for watching like 20 different matches

hidden vault
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Dont watch the league

elfin flame
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?

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y

obtuse socket
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I wish Titans didn’t split, and instead of Seoul we see titans. I think those 4 would be legendary

sour haven
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to day is my birthday
@topaz fable happy birthday 🎂🎉🎁

hot heart
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Glads must have their eyes on a duo

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Releasing shaz seems a bit weird

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He was pretty good

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Other than his zen

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Maybe they're gonna try and make a big play for myungbong

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They have the money to do that

karmic grotto
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There is no g on his nickname

upper niche
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shagz?

karmic grotto
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Myunbong

karmic grotto
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8 months action of overwatch, then 4 months nothing

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-.-

hot heart
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Its gonna suck

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Other than the off seasom trades

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Those are gonna be incredible

next mesa
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grand finals starts in about 12 hours?

viral veldt
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On my school computer it says 12 am 8th october

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UK time

next mesa
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is it 12pm right now

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where you are a

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never mind, it's in approximatively 22 hours

hot heart
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This is gonna be sick

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I kinda hoped they'd give us a day break between all the matches

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To process what happens

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And build more hype for the other matches

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If that makes sense

next mesa
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they didn't

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because

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they want the grand finals to be on saturday

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so everyone can stay up late or wake up early or whatever

unreal venture
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Hey where can I link my battle net account to get the league tokens?

tawdry hamlet
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So I just read that soon uses a logitech g203 (same mouse as me and basically cheapest logitech gaming mouse) and 9 sens?

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that can't be right

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I am assuming they left out widow sens because no way he plays widow at 5 higher sens than everyone else and is that good

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unless he is just crazy but his dpi is the same as others so hmm

karmic grotto
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im also using g203

swift moth
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rn im a sadiator

viral veldt
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😢

swift moth
shell onyx
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have u seen baconjacks sens

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his gameplay the couple times ive paid attention to it looks higher than 9 sens

cloud latch
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pretty sure pine used 15 sens

next mesa
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pine edpi over 900000000000

shell onyx
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Hmm just looked it up it actually isnt that fast but 1600 dpi

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It looks fast in game

earnest leaf
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Wait finals starts tommorrow morning

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Fuck

true hound
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yessir

earnest leaf
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My poor sleeping schedule

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Or I could go to bed early

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Since it starts at 6am

raw ermine
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Might for once stay up for APAC games

next mesa
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omg yeah

viral veldt
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Matches start when I walk home from school

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But it normally starts 30 minutes later then it says on the timer

next mesa
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lucky

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it starts at like 7am for me

fringe laurel
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its starts 4 am for me ZenyattaCry

next mesa
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I'll be in class for most of the match though

hot heart
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Pain

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The matches are at 3pm for me

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Ez clap

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Hol up

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Actually

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Put up your preds here

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We can go back and look through them after the grand finals

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Winner gets to check out Gestures flower shop lmao

shell onyx
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Is it 6am est or pst

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Or cst

next mesa
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7am est

shell onyx
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pain

inland flare
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NA or APAC?

worn falcon
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They gonna use a virtual stage

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Well kinda better than Khaled

tawdry hamlet
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according to liquidpedia myun is a tiny bit short of having more earnings than all his teammates combined lmaoo

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the only one skewing the stat is fusions who has 19k earnings

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myun has 36

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and punk with 15

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I stan myun

next mesa
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we don't know their salary

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder how much of a loss Kraft has taken with boston tbh

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well yeah of course

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I mean winnings

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I wonder how the league even stays afloat

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it looks like a money drain

next mesa
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It is

tawdry hamlet
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I hope it grows next season

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I Miss the hype

karmic grotto
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I WILL DEFEAT YOU ALL

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I go for the underdogs

next mesa
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seoul

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?

karmic grotto
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SEOUL DYNASTY

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HOW DI YOU KNOW YOU

next mesa
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YEAH BABY

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WELCOME TO THE CLUB

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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

karmic grotto
next mesa
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This man

karmic grotto
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First he smiles away, then he destroys your ass

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This first match is going to be good

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Actually, every match will be good

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But Shock is the first NA team of the two, to fight an APAC

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Reverse you can say it as well

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But, Dynasty now must come

next mesa
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dude

karmic grotto
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Playoffs Dynasty mode

next mesa
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Imagine if shock get fucking swept like

karmic grotto
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Profit gonna show them what his name means

next mesa
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THE MALDING HOLY SHIT

karmic grotto
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Yeah

next mesa
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and if dynasty gets swept

karmic grotto
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Shock fans on this server

next mesa
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like so what bro we're fucking used to it

karmic grotto
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^

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yeah

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just your usual shock things

next mesa
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The disappointment pffffff

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no im just used to seoul being suddenly garbage tier

karmic grotto
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The meta isn't changed

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I know, from interviews, not sure who said it, but when Dynasty practices a comp, then they are really good at it

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They had 3 weeks weeks to scrim

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I wonder who they scrimmed

next mesa
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yeah

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shock and philly are just at a disadvantage

karmic grotto
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or maybe not

next mesa
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jetlag and isolation

karmic grotto
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Well, a few days or one day isn't that bad

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It's alright now

next mesa
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yeah it's just wasted time a bit

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FUCKING EPIC VIDEO DUDE WHY AM I SO HYPED

hot heart
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Why do i feel like this finals is till gonna be one for the ages

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Especially if its Shanghai Vs. Shock

raw ermine
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cool trivia

next mesa
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don't have too high hopes

ornate rose
tropic herald
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@raw ermine look at the file name for his profile picture

next mesa
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Unlooky.png

raw ermine
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check his signature heroes

next mesa
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widowmaker

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His favourite hero which he shares his love for on stream is Widowmaker

tropic herald
next mesa
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There's like another version

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where it's 1 imposter

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implying that dynasty doesn't deserve grand finals

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pretty funny

cobalt spoke
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Just wait

vagrant jacinth
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Lmao

raw ermine
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Bischu was bench

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probably will be better in managerial role

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Shaz and goose were slowly getting worse

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they decided it would be better if they got better supports

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which is a good choice IMO

next mesa
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idk about worse it's just that the competition gets stronger and stronger

limber pine
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^

vagrant jacinth
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i'm excited to see who they pick up

vagrant jacinth
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F for those watching at 4am

worn falcon
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6 am for me

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:(

vagrant jacinth
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F

karmic grotto
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1 PM for me

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Heck yeah

tawdry hamlet
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I have homework to do too hence why they kind of earlier

vagrant jacinth
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Dedication

sturdy drift
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Wait what

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Seoul is top 4?

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I thought they got shat on this season

vagrant jacinth
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Nah, just were very inconsistent

sturdy drift
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Ah

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Good to hear then, home city represent :D

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Even tho im a shock fan

raw ermine
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They picked it up at the end

sturdy drift
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Sweet

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Seoul is 12-12 this season god damn

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They really only won the games they had to win

vagrant jacinth
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Might actually fuck around and support seoul

sturdy drift
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:D

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What happened to XL and Hunter and those guys? I thought they were doing well early on (I kinda stopped following OWL halfway through)

karmic grotto
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Doxxed

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@tawdry hamlet xiaomi phone or realme

tawdry hamlet
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Black Shark 2

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Xiaomi

karmic grotto
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See? I knew

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I'm phone god

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Bow

autumn basalt
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what time is grand finals for u guys

vagrant jacinth
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Xl did pretty good, chengdu were chengdu

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Noon

autumn basalt
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oh

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lucky you

next mesa
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7am

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I have school at 8:10

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fuck

vagrant jacinth
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Gonna get some food in, gonna be pog

autumn basalt
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i have to go to bed earlier than i usually do

next mesa
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seoul was actually so good in the playoffs

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like you really just sweep everyone except dragons (went to map 5) and then they go yeah they don't deserve

karmic grotto
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@vagrant jacinth I bought chips today and aloe Vera drink. I thought I would consume them today, but then I thought about grand finals starting tomorrow

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So I saved them

next mesa
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bruh

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I wouldn't even be able to watch

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I'll have to check the score secretly in class

karmic grotto
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Ripperoni

next mesa
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lmfao

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and I sit in the front

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wait when is

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philly and dragons

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that one I might be able to watch for a bit

karmic grotto
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Get rekt

autumn basalt
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i have to drink coffee tmr

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for the first time in years

next mesa
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I hope its fuckin worth it

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when does the dragons philly game start

autumn basalt
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uhhhh

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9 am

next mesa
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est?

autumn basalt
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yes

next mesa
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alright alright

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I can watch

autumn basalt
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i wanna see philly and shock rematch

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probs wont happen

vagrant jacinth
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@karmic grotto ye I'm gonna get more snacks tomorrow for the next two days

karmic grotto
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Gotta save them up

autumn basalt
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im broke

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fuck

karmic grotto
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I need to buy potato fries to eat with the chicken wings

next mesa
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I swear seoul will pull out hog and ball torture and shock will just be like KaplanWhat

autumn basalt
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seoul double shield

karmic grotto
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Torture time E_FeelsVeryEvilMan

vagrant jacinth
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Lmao it's gonna be so good

autumn basalt
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who r u guys going for

raw ermine
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It starts for me just after I get up

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Shanghai would be poetic AF

autumn basalt
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i wake up at about 12 every morning

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time to change that

next mesa
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I'm rooting for seoul obviously

worn falcon
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Seoul being the champs would be beautiful

next mesa
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second option dragons

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They're not gonna let shock win again that's for sure

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I mean it's in the script come on

worn falcon
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Beating sfs, Philly, SHD

vagrant jacinth
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Shanghai for the storyline, Seoul bc old spitfire

next mesa
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seoul because it's seoul

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heart of esports

worn falcon
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Philly because the 🐟 need it

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After 3 long years

next mesa
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If carpe gets second place again he will either:
be depressed and get mediocre next season
literally installs aimbot next season and easily win

vagrant jacinth
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Philly getting 2nd again would be bants

autumn basalt
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i want philly to get 2nd

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or 4th

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idk

keen warren
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@sullen berry My dude I am prepared for the Grand Finals

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Let's go

vagrant jacinth
tepid raft
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wtf happened to the gladiators line-up?

earnest leaf
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they got thanos snapped

autumn basalt
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there picking up moth

tropic herald
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That would be Pog

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However

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Didn’t moth just get resigned to shock

next mesa
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moth is part of the shock core

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lol

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most of shock if not everyone is resigning

tropic herald
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Just over 12 hours

cobalt spoke
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Why would shock resign? Does the league not want 3 time champs?

cursive hedge
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Who you reckon winning this year

raw ermine
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shock IMO

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they are the only ones that have looked consistent

tropic herald
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?

raw ermine
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Philly lost to them

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Shanghai nearly lost to seoul

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and seoul lost to them

cursive hedge
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Yeh shock looking solid not watched the Asian region tho so not too sure on how they play but shock all the way

tropic herald
raw ermine
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first pic is different meta

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second is reg season

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both have wildly different meta's

tropic herald
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Which team 3-0ed Justice?

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Shock or Fusion

raw ermine
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plus sfs were focusing on playoffs

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that was early in the tournament

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philly had all the vods and stuff

tropic herald
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Please please don’t say Shock are the only consistent team

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The only team that’s not eligible for that out of the 4 is Seoul

cursive hedge
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SF shock won the upper bracket going undefeated

tropic herald
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Shanghai Shock and Philly are all super consistent

cursive hedge
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Didn't drop to losers

raw ermine
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they are

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but sfs are the most

cobalt spoke
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Shanghai looks sloppy in this meta

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Idk

raw ermine
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this meta, at least

cursive hedge
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I don't watch Shanghai tbf

tropic herald
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Shanghai pulled out a comp that they scrimmed for a few days and beat Seoul with it who had been one tricking it

cursive hedge
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Lol

cobalt spoke
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Yea

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Seuol is just bad

cursive hedge
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That's an F

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That means shock have good chance then

tropic herald
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I mean Seoul are in finals still so we can’t really call them bad

cobalt spoke
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Shanghai was loosing to them for the earlier part of the game on both winston brawl and dive

tropic herald
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Bc Winston brawl unless played super close to perfect won’t beat hog comps on the patch

cobalt spoke
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Is phillys's close to perfect?

tropic herald
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I think Seoul had a better hog comp than Justice

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But yeah Shanghai and Philly are close to perfect

cobalt spoke
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Shanghai's winston brawl was not close to perfect

tropic herald
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Better than shocks still

cobalt spoke
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If your lucio gets emp'd every other fight then its not close to perfect

tropic herald
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If I had to rate teams on their Winston brawls it’d go Philly > Shanghai >> Shock >>>>>>> Seoul

cobalt spoke
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No

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Shock is better than shanghai on winston brawl

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Look at the vods

tropic herald
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Fine

cobalt spoke
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Shanghai did not use winston brawl to win most of their game against souel

tropic herald
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I’ll change the order

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Shanghai > Shock >> Philly >>>>>> Seoul

cobalt spoke
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????

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What?

true hound
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profit > literally anyone else

tropic herald
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I refuse to put Shock at the top of Winston brawls until they 3-0 Seoul with Winston brawl

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Bc realistically LIP sombra will outclass ANS unless ANS makes big moves

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Although I really look forward to later

true hound
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also fleta is meta pepelaugh

cobalt spoke
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I dont know

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When dragons were playing winston brawl they were losing by a large margin

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They only started winning when they swapped to hog

tropic herald
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Here’s the breakdown of why you saw that, Seoul good hog team, hog good right now

cobalt spoke
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Yea

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And only the best winston brawls should be able to beat hog correct?

tropic herald
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You realize both Shock and Philly played hog comps too

cobalt spoke
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Yea

tropic herald
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I should probably go back and look at what maps they chose what comps

earnest leaf
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Seoul will just lose the dps matchup tbh

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idk if anyone on seoul can contest ans on widow or ashe

cobalt spoke
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Souel will lose on every front

tropic herald
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Seoul vs every other team is just called a team diff

earnest leaf
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Lip was clapping fits's cheeks when I watched seould vs shd

tropic herald
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Seoul is just worse than the other teams

cobalt spoke
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Yea

earnest leaf
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and my guess

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Is the NA teams have been heavily prepping for hog comps over this break

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Perfecting their own and working on countering it

cobalt spoke
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But the winston brawl overall was bad, even if the individual parts were good

earnest leaf
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Since imo NA has the stronger winston brawl

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But i'd be worried if I was seoul or shd when facing shock

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If ashe or widow/tracer is ran

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Because striker ans is just too fucking op

cobalt spoke
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Best widow and best tracer on the same team

earnest leaf
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it's unfair

tropic herald
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Isn’t this the patch where Ashe is still very good

earnest leaf
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Yes they are still on playoff patch

tropic herald
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There’s been so many changes recently

earnest leaf
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so op hog and what not

tropic herald
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Had to keep track of what’s on that patch

forest raven
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Oh I just realised

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It's in Korea

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I can watch without breaking my sleep schedule

next mesa
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Tf

autumn basalt
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stay up until the game

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there still using the hog meta patch right

next mesa
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Yes

autumn basalt
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oh

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man

primal minnow
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Really hope shock and philly get destroyed

cobalt spoke
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Its not gonna happen

primal minnow
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I mean you don’t really know

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Theirs no indication of the power levels between the two regions.

cobalt spoke
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Please

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Just let the gameplay do the talking, shock is going to win 100%

primal minnow
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Really don’t think so.

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Seoul they definitely win

forest raven
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I have 100 tokens

primal minnow
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But with Shanghai and Philly. Idk.

forest raven
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Should I get Philly ana

primal minnow
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Sure

forest raven
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Shock 3-1'd Philly when they had less time to refine the meta

primal minnow
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And you can’t say ‘let the gameplay do the talking’ when the APAC teams aren’t included in this gameplay. Again showing no indication of the power levels between the two regions.

true hound
#

Basically it will be 2-0 shock

#

Final seconds, Shock in the lead

#

Shock seem to have taken the fight but Profit comes out on tracer and kills them all

#

and then Seoul start and complete the reverse sweep

#

After Shanghai spanks philly shock and fusion go at it

#

Carpe proceeds to get 100% final blows and kill participation and win

#

I bet my entire steam account this will happen no please i want to keep my steam account please

tropic herald
#

Quoted

true hound
#

yes

cobalt spoke
#

Zalty

#

You dont make bets on those kinds of things

#

How is the account going to be divided?

#

Because thats not happening and we know it

tropic herald
#

It’s not a bet, it’s just a pre order

digital cloud
#

so which of us get the account

true hound
#

nopls

viral veldt
#

I don't even play pc

vagrant jacinth
#

Nice, rip your steam acc my guy

#

I'd get a pc just to claim zalty's steam account

next mesa
#

Yubo we all know you're an unreasonable diehard shock fan

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

#

I like my team

#

I have confidence in them

#

Because they will win. All the other teams look worse in comparison

earnest leaf
#

imo it's not unreasonable to think your team will win it all if you're a shock/shd/philly fan

cobalt spoke
#

Shanghai vs seoul looked pretty damn slow for a winner final

earnest leaf
#

All of them have displayed the ability to win it all

quasi stump
#

quick question if anyone is able to answer

#

I won't be home when the finals start tomorrow morning

#

if I leave the OWL website open on my pc will the stream start automatically?

#

just trying to not miss out on any tokens

raw ermine
#

You know how on yt they have the thing that says how long till he video starts?

quasi stump
#

right

cobalt spoke
#

Yea just leave it their

raw ermine
#

I think that appears on the owl website

#

So go to it and open it up

quasi stump
#

so if I click the "Live in xx:xx" button on the main page, that next page should be where the stream starts right?

next mesa
#

You need to actually click play, so no it won't work

#

But if you setup a remote auto clicker or countdown the click probably

quasi stump
#

huh

#

I got it, I'll just use chrome remote access on my phone to start it

mellow spruce
#

When is the next match?

quasi stump
#

in just under 9 hours

tropic herald
#

8h30m

next mesa
#

Wow when I wake up the match will start

balmy wolf
#

i just think whoever is better at hog comps wins it all

#

winstons seems situational considering how apac went

next mesa
#

Dragons and seoul definitely stronger in hog comps

#

The trick is your main tank needs to be playing hog

balmy wolf
#

hog + any ot is basically whats gonna happen imo

#

3 of the 4 teams have shown good hog comps

#

expect shock

#

but ig 2 weeks of practice is enough to find the best hog player on the team

next mesa
#

They can't go with choi

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Cuz he needs to be in ot

#

Should be super

balmy wolf
#

most likely smurf has been practicing his hog

#

2 weeks is more than enough

next mesa
#

Alrighy

#

Dragons just has an advantage they can switch from reaper sombra dive to double sniper hog without switching their starting

#

Lineup

balmy wolf
#

every team can do that

cobalt spoke
#

Shock can do that

next mesa
#

Not seoul not shock

cobalt spoke
#

Wut

#

Why cant shock do it?

balmy wolf
#

seoul has ran double sniper

next mesa
#

Shocks hog comp is ass

#

Yeah but seoul doesn't run dive

balmy wolf
#

striker goes on hazno, ans on widow

#

they done it before

next mesa
#

Shock probably can now

#

With practice

cobalt spoke
#

Do you really think that thwy havent been trying to improve it? And then again super beat washingtin at there own game

balmy wolf
#

seoul runs profit on hanzo, fits on widow

next mesa
#

Yeah profit hanzo so nasty

#

And fleta hanzo and lip widow

#

Damn damn damn

balmy wolf
#

all the teams can easily run double sniper without subs

next mesa
#

Switching in between

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With dive

cobalt spoke
#

Shock isnt gonna want to run double sniper

next mesa
#

Like seoul definitely can't

balmy wolf
#

seoul doesnt dive

next mesa
#

And for fusion

balmy wolf
#

if smurf is in then shock can do it, philly switches pretty easily

next mesa
#

They need to sub

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They need heesu on the sombra

#

Ivy can hanzo right

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

next mesa
#

Carpe better than heesu at widow

cobalt spoke
#

Ummhmm

tropic herald
#

It’s kinda weird thinking that Seoul don’t do dive at all

next mesa
#

Ivy is their reaper

tropic herald
#

Considering Marve1 isn’t terrible at dva and gesture is decent at Winston

next mesa
#

And what about pharah

cobalt spoke
#

Is lip as good as carpe in widow?

next mesa
#

Yes

tropic herald
#

LIP is cracked as fuck

cobalt spoke
#

Is he better than him do you think?

next mesa
#

Idk about better

balmy wolf
#

lip is arguably the strongest hitscan in apac rn

next mesa
#

I think lip is SLIGHTLY weaker than diem

#

Just purely widow wise

balmy wolf
#

lip has the better sombra

tropic herald
#

Montage of LIP

next mesa
#

Yeah so they run lip instead

cobalt spoke
#

So that means shock is gonna have the bsst widow in this right?

tropic herald
#

Recent one

balmy wolf
#

the widow difference is not big

tropic herald
#

Widow isn’t the best hitscan on this patch

next mesa
#

Not really

balmy wolf
#

the bigger difference is the hog

tropic herald
#

And the widow diff isn’t big enough

balmy wolf
#

and sombra

next mesa
#

Ans is worse than diem

cobalt spoke
#

Diem doesnt play

next mesa
#

Carpe is barely worse than diem

#

Lip is barely worse than diem

#

Their power level is relatively the same

cobalt spoke
#

Thats why im asking about lip

tropic herald
#

I really want to see Shanghai play Diem if they commit to Widow

cobalt spoke
#

Because diem is benched

next mesa
#

If they commit to widow

#

Which they probably won't

tropic herald
#

Maybe Diem on Ashe/Widow and LIP on Tracer/Sombra

#

Then again

next mesa
#

Like I said lip is just slightly worse than diem

tropic herald
#

They don’t do that

#

Probably Bc Fleta is an IGL

next mesa
#

Fleta plays tracer

cobalt spoke
#

I hope ljg fixed the lucio issues

next mesa
#

For them

#

Like lip can contest the likes of fits and happy no problem

cobalt spoke
#

So shock is also gonna have the best tracer in this?

#

Striker

#

Hmm

tropic herald
#

Yea he’s the best but the margin isn’t that big

cobalt spoke
#

Yes it is

next mesa
#

It's really not

balmy wolf
#

all about the hog difference my dudes

tropic herald
#

Okay I think I’m just going to block you at this point Bc you are so fucking contrarian

next mesa
#

And he hasn't dueled fleta and profit all season

#

@tropic herald I know right

cobalt spoke
#

Just wait

balmy wolf
#

hog too good in playoff patch

next mesa
#

So obvious that he's a braindead shock fan

cobalt spoke
next mesa
#

Yeah man gesture hog

balmy wolf
#

oh yea we might see some pharah/sombra duos

tropic herald
#

Gesture wants his sneakers

balmy wolf
#

on control mostly

next mesa
#

Pharah man

#

The profit Tobi

#

NUT

tropic herald
#

Realistically

#

Seoul is gonna get their ass handed to them

#

I don’t care if it’s playoffs profit or not

balmy wolf
#

hey man thats what everyone said in 2018

next mesa
#

Perhaps

tropic herald
#

The team just doesn’t stack up

next mesa
#

Sorry

#

Playoff profit

#

Is just playoff profit

#

Sorry bro

tropic herald
#

What about playoff LeeJaeGon

#

He’s gonna feed extra hard

#

But still get 3 kills

earnest leaf
#

diem a better widow than ans?

#

That's an odd take

tropic herald
#

I mean

next mesa
#

I mean

cobalt spoke
#

I think diem is better

tropic herald
#

Mechanically speaking yes

next mesa
#

Yes, if you look at the widow 1v1

cobalt spoke
#

But hes not playing because they need lip

#

And ans is better than lip

next mesa
#

9-5 yeah shock fans will say and was throwing it whatever

earnest leaf
#

just please tell me you atleast aren't going off the widow 1v1 tourney

next mesa
#

@cobalt spoke how do you know

true hound
#

@next mesa fool

#

Saya

#

Is better than diem

tropic herald
#

Like with all due respect ANS is cracked but I think Diem is just the best widow in the world rn

next mesa
#

@earnest leaf it's the only measurement we have

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

tropic herald
#

He comes off the bench to take his 15k

next mesa
#

There's no measurement

#

Between the two regions

balmy wolf
#

the 1 v 1 doesnt mean shit in a team settings

earnest leaf
#

the widow 1v1 tourney is a really dumb way to measure

balmy wolf
#

ans has results

earnest leaf
#

Like incredibly dumb

balmy wolf
#

diem barely played this year

next mesa
#

Which is why I think it's kinda foolish

earnest leaf
#

Like soon clapped ksp's fucking cheeks

cobalt spoke
#

I do know one thing, Ans > carpe

tropic herald
#

Well now we are comparing Diem against Guangzhou compared to ANS having basically all season

earnest leaf
#

And linkzr isn't the best widow in na but won the whole thing

tropic herald
#

So it’s not fair but given the one head to head we have had Diem is better

next mesa
#

Obviously it's not a good measurement

#

But it's the only measurement we have

#

Although

true hound
#

I do know one thing, Ans > carpe
@cobalt spoke no

next mesa
#

I think they should've like turned sights on and off consistently

earnest leaf
#

I'd rather go off the impact they've had all season on the hero

tropic herald
#

Which isn’t fair either

cobalt spoke
#

@true hound No, It Is just true, Ans outclassed carpe whenever they met

tropic herald
#

So we really shouldn’t be comparing either

true hound
#

Carpe

next mesa
#

The impact they had could be different

true hound
#

Is goat

cobalt spoke
#

In ranked, on stage

#

Its not close

next mesa
#

Because like just think about it

true hound
#

#1 player ever

tropic herald
#

Given the limited data we have on Diem for this season

next mesa
#

Ans can farm stats on boston

true hound
#

list is 1. Saya 2. Carpe 3. Carpe 4. ANS

stuck radish
#

#1 player ever is tied between super and chipsa

cobalt spoke
#

So can carpe

true hound
#

Saya basically taking a massive pooper on every widow ever

cobalt spoke
#

Nah

earnest leaf
#

Remember when ans hard farmed philly for an entire map lol

true hound
#

if u think anyone is better than Saya ur dead wrong sir @cobalt spoke

stuck radish
#

he farmed philly bc chipsa wasnt playing

tropic herald
#

That was such a bad performance out of Philly too lol

cobalt spoke
#

Where is saya?

true hound
#

Injury

earnest leaf
#

tru no chipsa no win

balmy wolf
#

health issues

true hound
#

but he’s the best aimer for a reason lol

stuck radish
#

if chipsa was playing philly would have swept everyone in the playoffs

balmy wolf
#

tho i gotta say saya is legit one the best aimers in fps

cobalt spoke
#

So if hes injured doesnt that mean hes not even playing overwatch?

tropic herald
#

Saya was cracked but at the same time I’m glad we got to see BQB prove himself

true hound
#

Yea

tropic herald
#

Bc man BQB is also really fucking good

true hound
#

indeed

#

good hitscan

#

if it was jtown not playing saya would be illegal however

cobalt spoke
#

I dont think a widow that hasnt touched the game for a season is top tier

true hound
#

...

cobalt spoke
#

Is that a bad assumption?

next mesa
#

Bqb one of the most improved players

true hound
#

he’s the best aimer in OW

cobalt spoke
#

Was the best aimer in ow

next mesa
#

He's the best aimer in the world

true hound
#

Who is better?

next mesa
#

Not in ow

#

In gaming

true hound
#

there’s no one who matches him in Tracking and Clicking

#

in OW

#

def not

next mesa
#

Not in ow

#

In gaming

earnest leaf
#

chipsa is a better aimer than saya

#

ez

tropic herald
#

Have fun

true hound
#

chipsa 🙏🙏

#

if you wanted to go off clicking yes ANS is in contest

#

But aiming is not just clicking

#

Tracking is part of it too so is movement

next mesa
#

Watch this clip

earnest leaf
#

that clip is dirty

next mesa
#

In aim discords saya is almost unanimously best aimer

#

Like just gaming in general

#

Ok bye now

cobalt spoke
#

Ok

tropic herald
#

Thinking about that one clip last year

#

It was goats

#

Winston goats on Hollywood B

cobalt spoke
#

Souel losing, philly shanghai is a 50-50 imo

tropic herald
#

And saya was on widow

true hound
#

@next mesa ye def one of them

tropic herald
#

Just casually got a 3k

#

Don’t remember the specific game doe

balmy wolf
#

idk how his tracking is that smooth

#

thats what really surprise me

true hound
#

He’s hailed a lot among Serious, Rapha, all those peeps

cobalt spoke
#

So zalty do you plan on giving me your account?

earnest leaf
#

philly vs shd is a mini grand finals

true hound
#

noo

#

Hopefully every match tmrw

#

Is real close

cobalt spoke
#

Necause your preds look really bad

true hound
#

I don’t wanna get bored in school

earnest leaf
#

hm

cobalt spoke
true hound
#

idk man profit 1v6ing sounds fuckin legit

earnest leaf
#

I'mma pred shock 3-0

#

and shd win 3-2

#

the philly 3-0 vs seoul

true hound
#

Seoul is just wacky inconsistent

earnest leaf
#

and then I have no clue on what would happen

true hound
#

So idk how to feel about them

balmy wolf
#

seoul has a week by week curse

earnest leaf
#

Honestly, these upcoming games will probably show us a standout winner

balmy wolf
#

one week their good, one week their meh

earnest leaf
#

I think one team will just look better above everyone else tommorrow

balmy wolf
#

possibly

earnest leaf
#

Actually

#

fuck it

#

philly beats shd 3-1

balmy wolf
#

im predding dragons to win it all

earnest leaf
#

lets go for a spicy pick

balmy wolf
#

but all 4 teams have a perfect 33% chance of winning imo

#

its that close

cobalt spoke
#

4 teams

#

33% chance

true hound
#

7 am boys

cobalt spoke
#

For you

earnest leaf
#

lol to not destroy my sleeping schedule i'mma go to bed in like an hour or so

#

So I can wake up at 6am when games start

balmy wolf
#

im bad at math i know

earnest leaf
#

aw fuck me, the friday game is 4am my time

balmy wolf
#

i aint watching either

true hound
#

F

balmy wolf
#

way too late but its all good

#

cant wait for the threads to be salty

tropic herald
#

I think Shanghai win

true hound
#

hopefully we get some close matches

tropic herald
#

But I don’t care that much

#

The games will be fun

true hound
#

as long as my boy Carpe pops

tropic herald
#

And hopefully finals isn’t a blowout

true hound
#

I am satisfied

#

yea

#

I want close match

balmy wolf
#

finals imo is def gonna be a blowout

cobalt spoke
#

Everybody is predicting shanghai vs philly to be a 3-2 for either side yet shock beat philly 3-1? And it wouldve been 3-0 without hollywood

tropic herald
#

Pain

balmy wolf
#

the last 2 have been blowouts

tropic herald
#

We haven’t had one that isn’t one

earnest leaf
#

shock on hollywood ohnonono

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

#

Shock on hollywood

#

Their singular bad map

tropic herald
#

How have Shock become bad at Hollywood

#

They beat other good teams on that map

#

That’s the map they won May on

earnest leaf
#

because they throw

tropic herald
#

They only throw control maps so they can pick KR

#

They have super who is known as the finisher

true hound
#

Lmaoo

#

Pity map

tropic herald
#

He can finish a group of 6 men

earnest leaf
cobalt spoke
#

Refine play on hollywood ✅
Learn to beat hog comps ✅

earnest leaf
#

I need shd rush vs shock rush

#

I need it

tropic herald
#

Shock don’t lose Hanamura

#

Fearless Rein v Super Rein

cobalt spoke
#

Thats not close

#

super is the best rein

true hound
#

muma

balmy wolf
#

shocks hanamura is actually kind crazy to look at

#

they havent lost since last season on hanamura

tropic herald
#

Axxiom Rein

cobalt spoke
#

And I can tell you directly, Ive played against him 1 time, he's the best rein

#

3.8k players in a 4.5k game

#

Wtf

stuck radish
#

super's dva is insane

balmy wolf
#

imagine playing against cloudy

#

dude is just aggro constantly

stuck radish
#

did you not see him stand on the point in the all stars game

#

that was crazy

#

best dva in the league

tropic herald
#

Cloudy in scrims

cobalt spoke
#

Hold on

tropic herald
#

Astro was talking about the cloudy rein

true hound
#

lhcloudy

#

the alpha

tropic herald
#

LargeHugeCloudy

balmy wolf
#

typically KR reins dont stack up to western reins

stuck radish
#

shock just had the most stacked roster in the league tbh

balmy wolf
#

since korea favors dive a lot

stuck radish
#

how they use said roster is another thing

tropic herald
#

It’s just regions prefs

#

NA likes rein more

balmy wolf
#

there are some expections like bumper

tropic herald
#

KR likes Winston more

#

Kaiser and Bumper are exceptions

#

Kinda like Muma

balmy wolf
#

mano, fearless got great reins

tropic herald
#

Mano has a very good rein and Winston just for his Orisa to suck

#

Come on man

balmy wolf
#

Benebest good rein too

#

super is clutch with rein

#

thats the diff imo

tropic herald
#

Rein one trick too

karmic grotto
#

I feel like super has so much luck

stuck radish
#

super on rein with moth on lucio + kings row

tropic herald
#

Okay

#

Yes but

balmy wolf
#

super on control maps with rein

karmic grotto
#

KR one trick

tropic herald
#

Cloudy on rein with gooselucio

balmy wolf
#

he saved his team in may melee on rein

tropic herald
#

Just realized it’s never going to happen again

#

Pain

#

Buh buh Sadiators

stuck radish
#

i hope shanghai loses

balmy wolf
#

but yea if u wanna compare reins the clutch factor is what u gotta look at

stuck radish
#

they are so cocky

karmic grotto
#

@stuck radish lmaoooooo

#

Dragons cocky

#

Surely not "Shock"

stuck radish
#

they are

tropic herald
#

Dragons aren’t cocky

stuck radish
#

but dragons man

#

"we'll win easily"

tropic herald
#

Idk where you get this from

true hound
#

its shit talk bro everyone does it

frail hemlock
#

hello guys

true hound
#

plus ngl id feel confident having the best flex dps

tropic herald
#

Pain

earnest leaf
#

It's funny because super honestly could be a starting MT on 90% of the league's teams

karmic grotto
#

Mvp

true hound
#

hi

#

Sadiators

balmy wolf
#

super just has teammate who happens to be top 3 winston AND orisa

#

unlucky they say

earnest leaf
#

but shock will never let him go

#

Andy miller has written him into his will

#

inb4 super becomes co-owner of nrg

balmy wolf
#

if super wants to leave hes looking for a stacked roster

tropic herald
earnest leaf
#

true

stuck radish
#

super joins houston outlaws

gloomy vector
#

honestly tomorrow what i want for comedy is for shock to lose first round then dragons lose first round then i want philly to get 2nd overall that would be the funniest of events to happen

earnest leaf
#

philly getting 2nd would be fucking hilarious

true hound
#

itd be so sad

gloomy vector
#

like i dont really care if seoul/shock win overall but i think it would be funny if philly got 2nd and dragons to lose to both NA teams

true hound
#

Carpe never getting his break man

#

😔

gloomy vector
#

really all im hoping for is good matches

earnest leaf
#

inb4 each game is a sweep

#

Or shock loses and goes on a loser's bracket rampage again

tropic herald
#

I want Shanghai to win and most of the games to be close

gloomy vector
#

but if those events happen then it would be so funny to see dragons out first and then philly get 2nd

stuck radish
#

i really bet seoul is gonna get destroyed by both teams it faces

#

dragons idk

tropic herald
#

Unless Seoul whip out magic they will probably be the first team out

stuck radish
#

profit can only do so much

#

lmao

fervent beacon
gloomy vector
#

wait really worlds are the same time

earnest leaf
#

well it's not the grand final of OWL yet

#

That's saturday

frail hemlock
#

always was

autumn basalt
#

how do i go to sleep

frail hemlock
#

with legs

earnest leaf
#

idk why but watching car cleaning videos helps me sleep