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Smurf don’t care
what r the other 2 rewards
@true hound Grand finals mvp and OWL season 3 champion
Shock is gonna get both of those
Shock has looked like the better team
Theyve already learned how to play into hog comps there only other weakness is hollywood
After that shock just outclasses every other team
Stop trolling zalty, Ans is better than carpe
He just is
Ans has consistently out traded carpe almost every time they met
And ANS plays sombra and mei on top of basic hitscans, does carpe do that?
Yeah honestly carpe is kinda washed. Ans is just better in my opinion. I think that carpe has the mechanical skill he just doesnt have the drive like he used to.
Honestly the biggest issue with Philly when they play against Shock is that Carpe is their best Tracer player AND Widow player ... but you can't put him on both to deal with Striker/Ans ...
IMO tanks/supports are pretty even, but it's a DPS difference ... if Philly beats Shock (at least assuming meta stays constant) then it's because of a superior Sombra player
Carpe is still a top tier hitscan lol
He's generally even when going vs ans in the duels they have to play
just the issue is he has to face striker aswell who is better tracer
so carpe has to decide to mirror the tracer or ashe
and philly doesn't have an ashe to mirror ans
So carpe does and they slap heesu on tracer to try and mirror striker
And that does not go well
There's always improvement
ANS is a top 2 histcan this year
Carpe is still a beast
But he hasnt shown up in finals snd important matches
*and
If he does show up during the time he's played this grand finals
I thought Ans was best widow in the league and then Diem came back and defended his title 
Not that widow 1v1 is an accurate measure of who is better since they have many other factors you don't train for in a regular game
I bet if you asked Alarm where he sits compared to the other top flex supports he'd say he isn't as good as them too
I mean true, but that could just be a humble thing, I want to see soon vs ans, really I just want to see how soon stacks up on widow against the top apac widows and players like Xzi
Since his 1v1 performance was so solid im curious how he performs against others, same with Linzkzr tbh
Actually now that I think about it I just want an na vs apac widow battle lmao
God im so hyped for finals!!!
I have a feelinf
We might see another finals like The seoul shanghai finals
3 maps down and reverse sweeps
Yeah honestly carpe is kinda washed. Ans is just better in my opinion. I think that carpe has the mechanical skill he just doesnt have the drive like he used to.
@devout elk what
have you even seen Carpe this szn wtf lol
what the fuck man
he literally said he only lost his drive for S2 and didn’t practice hard
but for S3 he is
players have 2 games where instead of a 6k every fight they get a 4k every fight and suddenly they're washed
so uh he’s not washed and literally matches ANS pepelmao
- no one has that clutch factor like he does which just puts him on top
also sayaplayer is the best hitscan :P
How is carpe washed at all
hes not
Ye it just confuses me when people say he is
Carpe isnt washed
Carpe is Chad!
Hes just not as good as Ans on widow and not as good as striker on tracer
I think Fusion not having a second dps who is able to match shock is going to be their downfall
I mean heesu is good of course
but striker is insane
and so is ans
Rascal exists
Their going to play ans + rascal when they need to play snipers + rascals hero pool of 12 heroes
Yes, because carpe is totally better than ans, its not like ans has been the best widow in na for the whole season
Ans definetly finds less kills consistently but he wins the widow duel way more than other widows
Espically against carpe
I think in future seasons ksp is going to be an insane widow
it will just take time
Isnt sayaplayer out because of injury?
yes but he’s the best aimer in OW regardless
Also I am putting my money on shanghai simply because they have like 4 or 5 of the best players in the whole league plus the mvp coach and mvp
but shock are looking really good
so idk
I just don't see Philly winning it anymore, they looked really strong but now they look kind of meh
Shock has 9 of the best players in the world
There is just dynasty in the corner like uh hey
lmao
I just don't see Dynasty winning at all
If ta1yo got utilized for 1 coaching session from musty it would be 10
All the starters on shock right now are the best at their roles
Top 3*
Maybe not best
No
Leajeegong is sloppy on lucio, moth is not
Iziyaki is solid though
Yea
"His style" is gonna lose him matches when shanghai starts playing against good teams
they have gone against good teams tho
Seoul sometimes actually plays quite well
Charge is good and so was NYXL
In this playoffs?
I mean yeah there is not really another superteam in apac like there is in na but Shanghai I would still say play really good regardless of if the teams they go against are insane or not
curious honestly on how mid card apac stacks up against mid card na tbh
like mayhem and xl etc
well those are not mid card
but like charge and reign or something lol
No team in the apac region has looked good in this meta, not as good as shock and even philly
Reign is scuffed
Reign is just ok
took him like what like over half a round to get his ult lmao
that was just a scuffed ass series in general though
I bet reign could have won that too since they beat paris in the actual playoffs
I wanna see more Pokpo pls
that was a meme
@true hound shanghai had 1 week to review all the hog comps and the like and they still went 3-2 with a team just as good as the justice
then losing that point on busan was a ripp
Seoul isn’t just as good as the justice wym
since they had such an advantage and paris randomly cleaned them out
Shock reverse swept when they saw the hog comps
in the last second
Seoul is just very inconsistent
I remember Fissure saying on his stream that Seoul gets extremely good at one comp and one comp only
really wish Blizzard didn't skew the playoffs by changing meta like a week before they started tho
so if they’re forced to swap they fall apart
lmao
everyone Malded at justice
like where was you when decay first got signed.. there was no mald then
Rip to Paris tho lmao, out of all the teams I think the meta changed fucked them the hardest
I think washington deserves to be in the top 4 just as much as souel
I had high hopes for paris since their dps are all really good
but the meta just ate them out

im surprised no other team tried running double sniper into justice zog
Paris was never that good, they had their genji meta, and then they where bad again, just like I predicted
Like philly did it and justice got crushed
plus summer showdown was pog for paris
Summer Showdown, where charge beat dragons and philly beat shock and paris beat fusion lmao
what a tourney
peak genji play by sparkle
Philly didnt beat shock
I thought they did didn't they?
Paris beat shock
oh
makes sense
still sparkle carry!
that tourney gave me such a boner for agilities tho, he was killing it
sparkle vs shock baby
The 1 time this season philly beat shock was when shock didnt play dive in 1 week of hero pools
Paris won because of genji meta
And now they lpst because its not genji meta

ppl were saying sparkles genji was good before hand but wondering if he was good as Haksal and then summer showdown game along
And everuobe was like wtf
This man is insane
I mean that is like saying justice was kind of cheese for playing hog when he was meta
it is just what happens in metas
so many teams got upsets in the genji meta tbh
Genji just be king
bruh linkzr cam tho
lmao
Tbh
After watching the shock paris match
Shock couldn't have beat philly then
Sp9rk1e during the summer showdown was the best player in the world
I mean
The weird thing is
Washington ran it and got top 3 NA
So its pretty good on specific maps and points
hmm
So far we've heard a coach of Justice is re-signed, another is let go
Now we need information on the players 
What will happen to ror
wiz khalifa
Ye after season 1 wiz khalifa signed on with the justice secretly
actually tho
still never got my fucking tokens bruh
I don't think anyone did lmao
I am such a slut for my free tokens
Who cares about tokens
... Everyone.

still never got my fucking tokens bruh
@tawdry hamlet I don't think we are gonna get the tokens for NA All Stars Events.

Not everyone wants to spend 20 dollars for some skins
sadge
Almost time for the grandfinals
Someone knows a ow league in spanish?
HYPE
so i think they forgot to put 0x instead they used 3x token weekend
NA Productions
@tawdry hamlet Should have realized that NA stands for Not Available
I mean
Any of these teams would roll seoul
They wont roll fusion tho
But that depends on heesu
And since he looked sick this playoffs
Idk
If they don't realize nobody got tokens and give out like a free 50 tokens im going to be sadge
Lmao im jk I know they never would do that
na stands for worse region
been watching a match vod. The voiceover folks aren't very good at commentating the match. It's just word vomit with no energy.
It's boring smh
bruh the entire match there's just a buzz in my ear and it's these guys talking
Because that's what they're hired to do
Hype up matches
I understand some people having preference over what style of casting is good and bad
But
How is casting buzz in your ear
They're analysing the game and how it plays most of the time
They know more than the casual watcher and some fanatics of High level OW
it's just too much talking oml let me watch the game in silence for at least 3 seconds please
they're talking the fucking entire time
Analysis
You could choose to mute it
I kinda get where you're coming from
But
Casting exists in all sports
Maybe not as much as esports but much more happens in video games than sports
Reinforce best caster!
Tbh Frankie is cool and all, but I don't get why they brought her on when she barely knows anything about the game and just sort of fills gaps
Not that she is bad or anything
She's great I just don't know why they brought her on
Cuz soe took a break from casting
I think its because her dad got really sick
I dont remember tho
Fair enough just wondered why they shoved a csgo caster in randomly but that makes sense
Casting varies too. If you're watching one team roll, obvs there'll be no hype. It'll just be filler
Reinforce/sideshow casting tiny overwatch was peak owl
Reinforce and sideshow
Is almost my dream casting duo
Imagine if there were 3 casters
Bro
Sideshow bren and reinforce
i miss monte and doa
Sideshow bren reinforce would be the holy trinity
watching plat chats pre season video on shanghai is really funny
oh how they slept on void and lip XD
@vagrant cargo h
sipp
Sipp
best flex dps nico or agil?
Agil
Oui
.
paris #1
Paris is the best team indeed
Mikeya is retired
no rush brought him out of retirement
he saw the potential
right @vagrant cargo
ur trialing for paris
Yes
ntb knows
MikeyA is best widow rn
thats what rush said
xzi going to contenders again
yes
NTB got a tryout
hes played in contenders
and he saw mikeya there
mikeya trialing
best widow KR
source?
stop leaking
all the KR on paris going to new teams cause paris no money
but ye
Years ago bro LMAOO

sounds like fake news until confirmed
went broke
Tier 3 EU warlord
Hes cappin but paris is indeed trialing some euros @karmic grotto
someone screenie this and post to owtmz 😤
mikeyA on trials
They mainly trial supps rn
Money is money
you're getting trials?
Myunbong is trialing as well
what team are you on?
lol Paris should focus on getting a flexible dps lol
their support line isnt a problem
HSR Panthera is basically the fc bayern of german ow
lol
yea
some of these players are on other team
L NTB not on the liquipedia LMFAO
yes
Rephid is on sheer cold rn
Pelican getting courted by Asian teams rn
and o2 tanks are on Justice watchlist
cause mag super fckn expensive
We havent lost since like february 2019
Also Talon KR trialing with Toronto is only a few players btw
JJANGGU mostly and sometimes Arrow lol
does anyone think innovation will be signed ?
sources
and also just common sense that 2 of the best dps in CN region would be trialing lol
Diya wont stay on SHD lol
his contract ends this year im p sure and he never starts and he's mid tier OWL caliber lol
CN region?
China
Shanghai is gonna lose to philly, im calling it
Chinese contenders
Chinese contenders
what do we think glads are gonne do on the off season?
being able to come back when you're 3-0 requires a super strong mental
new tanks and supports
i think birdring is either gonna stay or retire
they have to keep mirror if they want kevster
Birdring might move to a new team i heard, but probably going to stay Mirror staying too
Philly has shown that after a week they can use dive and winston brawl to beat washington,
Shanghai has shwon that there winston brawl and dive is to sloppy to beat souel with
Birdring is fine
birdring vibing lol
carried his team too hard
he likes glads a lot
him and kev
glads getting new supports & tanks
Kevin bird mirror space will stay
pine to nyxl again pog
kevin
kevin ster
ur just close w/ him like that
Thats how we euros call him
nyxl could sell/trade some players like whoru and make some mad cash
i think they keep space even though imo he was actually the second worst on their team last season
uhm
Whoru wont bring in cash LMFAO
i barely saw whoru play
yeah
more like a flop
Cap @wanton birch
Goose OGE shaz all worse than space
maybe they have future potential?
whoru or libero is for sure getting the axe
Mirror as well
goose oge shaz all need replacements
@vagrant cargo man space wasnt that good this season
They were shit
i only see nyxl keeping mano, sbb and jjonak maybe
shaz no
^
shaz is good
Shaz is meh af
space was consistently good on glads
Flex supp is super stacked
imagine glads myunbong and NTB
biggoose and oge bye bye
would be a really good roster imo
lol
Why would i go to glads tho
true you have that paris offer
If i make it past trials
you never know
but he never actually popped
Lmao
he was always good or ok
OGE winston goated
if you never try, its always miss
I dont rlly wanna leave europe tbh
what rumours are there surrounding glads
oh also i didnt even mention them but jaru and cloudy are probs gone
tbh might keep cloudy lol
Cloudy might stay
lag salieri LOL
Nah
no balls
Lag mag :^)
david would do it
wait bischu is still there as well
Bischu will stay i think
😦
i heard hes retiring lol
theres a huge wave of retirement
bischu coach /
good riddance
?
everyones probs boomed from rona
bischu, soon, akm, unkoe, oge, etc.
fuck
oh yeah Mayhem better get Libero, FITS or Glister
lack of a good MS and flexible DPS lineup cost them
does diem stay on shanghai ?
probably
Most likely
he's their only good widow
he's just had health problems for half the season and LiP is a leadership figure in comms and rlly good for team environment
im thinking more thatb he might wanna leave'
maybe
what tank should glads even get
haksal said hes taking indefinite break too
idk
everyones battling fro mag it seems
get kaiser fools
no lol
kaiser been benched for a year and half
why would he get signed to OWL
he's not gonna get many trials if any at all this year
he got some these past 2 seasons and every team he trialed chose someone else
what is the biggest rumour youve heard?
Where does that put them
@sharp wadi yea as much as everyone wants kaiser to be in owl
hes been benched for yakpung right
Salieri to boston
i dont think anyone wants kaiser in OWL anymore lol
there's like no hype around him anymore
yeah hypes dead
cause he doesnt even play official games anymore lol
hes just gonna go do military service
guess what
well so there are a few things @karmic grotto
all fuels bench is gone, but fuel are looking into chinese talent
Wha
NotE Proj. too
NotE on proj makes absolutely 0 sense as adrial said
so did hydration on MT
Note has said he’ll be flexing on different roles
Hydration has shown flexibility
but hes not transferring per se
NotE hasnt
also yeh Fuel looking into innovation diya VVVV Jimmy KaMi hyaoquain
He's actually been the opposite of that
dallas gave up on Korean talent
canadian dps all star
and are going to chinese
We're they good
note is actually duoing with elsa @hot heart
O
they partners in comp
Pog
depends if he wants bank or a good team lol
?
Put whatver juice you got here ig
shock blowing up DPS lineup i hear
I dont believe any of it really
ok
But i meaj
yall unfunny af
Speculation is Speculation
Deadass
i dont share juice to people who don’t listen
ur not gonna get the Paris MS spot stfu ntb
bro Rush said ur bad
🙏
Lori and Arachne to houston? yall boutta see
kick dream first
plan on getting lori and arachne and become trade partners with fuel
paintbrush is transferring to houston iirc
jecse wants out
Moxxe just repeating stuff i said zz
how would they drop all players if they burned all their money on getting EM support line + hydration blase
or were they cheap
Silence console cracker
houston sold part of their complex back from their season 1 days
they’re using a mortgage system
houston are going to try and gain a higher liquidity cap
they see a trading partner within fuel, glads, and paris
I mean if this turns out to be true that would be pretty cool
take waht hey say with a grain of salt
Did ya'll get triple tokens from OWL this weekend? I watched the whole thing but didn't get any tokens.
c r i n g e
Yuh
Well
they hold tryouts usually
so you would go to those
and if you're good enough
they will sign you
go to #lf-players-na
You’d have to post a LFT
to advertise yourself
Or sign up for open tryouts
with your rank, position, ETC
What’s ur SR?
people also post team recruitments there
so if you see one you like, contact them
they might play in OD
No problem
Hey, I am NeyWhere, 4.5k player and 16 years old. I left my team cause I had to focus on school (I had not enough time for a team). I don’t want to be a pro player later, I just want to have studies and e sports at the same time. If you have some tips to give, DM are opens. Thanks all
2021, here we come.
Hot off a strong showing in Korean Contenders with WGS Phoenix, please welcome Lori (@tmddnr145) as our new head coach! #BostonUp
I guess mineral is gone then
"With Lori’s addition as the Uprising’s new head coach, Vytis “Mineral” Lasaitis will transition to a management position within the team."
nvm
So, not gone but demoted
Management position seems reasonable
But the fact that they got him from WGS Phoenix
I will change everything from now Boston
Time to go #BostonUp https://t.co/l46446zWdk
CHEX GONE PLS
From Boston Downfalling, to Uprising
boston s4 champs 
Who's lori
I did it once... and I'm looking to do it again. I'm back and searching for competitive Overwatch opportunities.
LFT - Main Support
DM for Inquiries
Discord: Verbo#7083
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Whos that?
Old immortals support
played with agilities, fate, and karive back in the day
didn't do well in OWL compared to them, and left LAV to go to skyfoxes
I think Shockwave might get some offers whenever he is done with Titans
I think Shockwave might get some offers whenever he is done with Titans
Ded game league?
OW 2 is the thing that will revive OW
I agree with brads many points
One of them is having a F2P model
Every big esports is F2p and see how much millions of money it generates
Today I saw a glimpse of LOL world series
Absolutely amazing
It makes you feel as if you're there, in the world series
800k viewers when I watched for like 10 minutes
I wish OW was like that
Overwatch is still an amazing game even with its flaws
people don't know who verbo is sadge
If they make OW F2p they need to up the requirements for comp
Wrong chan ney
because smurfs will become a massive problem, as would cheaters
They have phone number verification for t500
They could extend that to all players
And have some sort of check to prevent unused phone numbers from being used
Hear me out, Boston top 6 season 4
For those who are interested
yes I agree
Strong disagree with no home stands
I actually agree with the ideas
The home stands ticket sales might not be profitable but I know I would stay around longer watching live if there was homestands
Are we only able to get tokens through the OWL app or can we earn them on PC?
I think homestands are fine
Just not one every week
a few throughout the year would be cool, let the team host a special event during the homestand and do fun stuff
doing them every week was a pepega idea anyways due to how much teams have to do in a little amount of time
Got the tokens. Don't think I actually got the 3x ones. But well, it's at least something. Got 30 tokens for the complete event.
@tawdry hamlet @warped wigeon
I got my tokens too, 25 of them
btw, how can i get hgz spr homestand spray
this is game
Now boston wants to sell coaches as well

Now I'm officially FA
LFT OWL
(Head coach/Assistant coach)
Contact
Email: roy9615@naver.com
Discord: sungwoo#4727
Career: https://t.co/teo180guAi
love what opportunities come his way, but I see him getting deals to bring the lower teams up
I will change everything from now Boston
Time to go #BostonUp https://t.co/l46446zWdk
989
oop im slow
imagine lori keeping colourhex
ordering overwatch teams is easy as ABC
very shitty that activision needs to have orgs pay money
they dont make money
which team already has earned their buy ins?
wdym by that
they all signed a 20M contract
to be paid over x amount of years
varying by contract
they can change hands in the way London is trying to play it off
or how houston was sold, if you could call it that
They weren't all $20m. Season 2 franchises varied between 12 and 40m; season 1 franchises were 12m.
guangzhou and chengdu paid through the nose for their spot in the competition - above even that 40m.
damn
if Lori Keeps colorhex and doesn't try to pick up someone else I will be sadge
like actually
Colorhex is a great player, but by owl standards he just doesn't have it
that is true, but i don't think he lacks the mechanics, I think there are others who just simply aim faster or better than him
and idk how well a coach can improve aim at least other than have him run aim trainers for days or some shit lmao
that's personal thing of the player
I think coaching team spirit is better in the long run
but, we will see
Some players need to be let go
myunbong can stay there. Build around him
Guy shined when he was in all stars
No
Boston players are decent
If you give up what you have and blow up another team youll just make a new one with 0 synergy
Look at vancouver
And london
I think
If you try and keep bostons roster
You could potentially do something
But it wont be great
It'll be decent
But the only thing i cannot overlook is colourhex
You need to pick someone up that's more flexible than him
And if you want
Keep colourhex on the roster for specific metas
Guangzhou getting rid of all its coaches ?
We get 5 tokens per hour right?
yes
Well guangzhou did badly this year
I've never seen guagnzhou play lol
you don't win the summer showdown and do badly though
I think if they had 100 percent synergy but the same raw skill boston would still be like Reign tier
yeah
tbf the summer showdown was kinda weird
Since genji was instantly thrusted into meta
So we saw teams like paris pound, and even defiant was slapping people
I enjoyed it, was a fun time
But I still think shd is the only consistent team in apac
y'all
I think the real muma just joined my custom game
and left 5 sec later
he was at 4506 SR
oh damnz they are top 5
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Fever dream
and samito
GB is there every time
its all great
samito lmao
SAMITOO
he's not gonna cast but just imagine though
PROFIT IS LITERALLY HARD CARRYING HE LITERALLY CAN'T DO MORE
NOOT NOOT
And it's pog every single time
Fax
shouldn't be
inconsistent though
crap cant post images
but look dragons have 27W and 2L
29 matches played
oh wait they might not count post season games
I mean like
tournament matches
tournaments granted extra wins remember
Of all the guest
they picked Samito
Man, i would be happy if they picked Jayne instead Samito
I can hear his Moira rants in the transmission
I saw some people saying sado is on the same level as smurf and fearless
We have seen them in matches directly, and thats just not true
Smurf >>> Sado
The last time they played against eachother Sado was the main reason his team lost
Sado is good but I don't think his orisa or winston beat smurf or fearless
and super/fearless have a better rein I think
is fearless or stand1 orisa better
no clue
orisa is pretty much fearless' only main tank that's not top tier
So the player related roster changes have started
Today we bid farewell to our Finnish duo.
Thank you, @BigGoose and @Shaz_OW for your hard work from Day 1. You will always be true Gladiators. https://t.co/sKUKivOWdb
PAINS
I could see london trading glister to LAG for kevster
Finally
They're gone
After 3 years?
It was about time
Now it's time to start anew
I really wanna see kevster at low ping
Next year!
Also, how does he even look like

I bet they gonna sign unique
Noo not the goose
@raw ermine theyd need to take mirror as well then#
I think space and kevster are too good to drop
I thought u said drop sauce and I was so confused
I think space and Kevster cpuld be traded for big cash
Been an amazing journey these last 3 years and got to meet awesome people throughout my time with Glads.
As for the future I will be retiring from Overwatch as a player and take some time off to think what's next in the radar https://t.co/38Cuztshez
sadiators
dang
Gonna keep it short.
I want to thank Gladiators for giving me the opportunity to grow as a player and a person. Had alot of fun and memorable moments over the last 3 years with the team.
Going to take some time to think about what I will do next. https://t.co/W4iVcu5V78
BUH BUH SADIATORS
There’s some people Glads could pick up
The question is what direction are they going
Gonna do some take here. Someone is going to sign Fissure.
Bischu is LFT for coaching and management
Jaru said nothing
BIGG00SE is retired
Shaz is "taking time off"
Jaru actually changed his twitter bio
i think bischu would be a good coach
being fluent in korean and english would be great for coaching a mix roster
@raw ermine hes retired as a player he might go into coaching
patiently waits for an Australian owl team 🙃
he said he was retiring as a player in his tweet
the way he phrased it makes it seem like he might not fully retire
Jeez
Biggooses liquipedia page doesn't have the right twitter
It leads to a nonexistent account
I thought he deleted his account
Yeah it does sound like that
It’s not surprising but it’s still painful
And Jaru
Arent all the gladiator s1 players gone now?
Yes
This leaves Birdring, Kevster and OGE
Universe
Woah bunch of glad departures
Waiting for Houston
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