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And shock was doing well with the widow/tracer but they have ans/striker
carpe was at ans's level if not a little higher
idk why they keep carpe benched
like dude
ah
Because they most likely scrimmed reaper sombra
thats the only thing that makes sense
and ivy probably did the best on reaper
Most of the ogs are leaving
yea but ashe+mercy claps justice's comp
lmao
and got clapped after one map of doing well
its valiant tho
So?
valiant isnt philly
KSP is pretty good
Ksp is as good as carpe tho
philly could play ashe mercy to a higher level most likely
Is ksp a rookie?
Yeah i think
Ans level
Decay is a rookie ffs
no
He isn't
hes an og
he was on glads last year
?
Glads season 1
He was?
Also Glads lost decay and void lmao
I swear I never saw him play
Void is now and mvp candidate and decay is a god
because he never played
Why
Glads thats why
I feel so bad for birdring
Stuck on glads
Could fit in anywhere else
But no, glads
Thank god they got rid of roar
Do not say roar and stacked in the same sentence
Feeding onion
Roar was one of the best monkeys
was
Now he feeds enough to give everyone in Ethiopia a 5 course meal
Well
Also I just want to mention
Recency bias plagues predictions so much
People thought philly would clap shock based off of one match
in a hero pool that doesn't help shock
Hot take but
people really thought philly would beat shock 3-2
People forgot that crusty had a week to prepare
If ny lose this year they will disband and i see mano joining justice because his old friend ark is there
i really cant see nyxl winning tbh
I mean
if they clean it up
They nearly took shanghai to 6 maps
Inches away
Fleta said no
I highly doubt that ny will disband
MY BOYS
GET OUT OF HERE PHILLY
Had faith in the team the whole time
No doubt in my mind
That's if Philly even beat Washington my dude
lmao
Personally, I dont think sbb or jonak will ever leave ny
The signing window change was controversial but waiting until you lose to it to be vocal about it is indeed, not it chief.
Bren's malding about the rules gives me life
ahaha
Now that I've had some time to process, just wanted to say the Justice team are without a doubt one of the strongest teams on this patch. My issue with their Cinderella run has nothing to do with their play, but with the emergency sub rule and playoff format that let this hap...
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the salt gives me life
saying “it has nothing to do with their play” is so smooth brain
dude is malding

Git gud
tfw @FLMayhem fail to beat the Washington Rulebenders. https://t.co/Jk6LEagfhB
904
bruh
Salt is real
The amount of people trying to discredit how much all of Justice has stepped up outside of Decay is dumb
No shit they signed arguably one of the best DPS players in the league
But they’ve literally all been on their game
Every other team in League rn: "Noooooo you can't just buy the best players and just expect to win in such a short amount of time with lack of teamwork and coordination"
Justice: brrrrrrrr
Stitch was literally on Ans' level during the match vs Shock
i would argue stitch has carried harder than decay in a few recent games
Stitch was ridiculous
Man has become cracked out of his fucking mind
Decay makes the whole team look at him which lets Stitch fuck from the backline
they were so bad
before those 3 specifically joined their team
and now they just pocket the fuck outta them
Also ark gets to play mercy
but really tho, yall shoulda seen the APAC matches, i woke up at 5 AM just to see NYXL destroy charge and Shanghai almost lose to Seoul but clutch up
they were so stacked, running pharahmercy in OWL
thats entertaining to say the least
they ran monkey dva, no?
i went back to sleep for some of it
i just needed to token farm XD
but justice also revealed hog comp
End of the series Fearless pulled out the hog to clutch the win
Because Seoul was beating them with the pharah comp
i am og shanghai fan, like before bandwagon, before stage 3 season 2
Everybody knows Shanghai has a very good hog comp going into grand final weekend
no
its shock v shanghai and nyxl v justice?
its loser finals tomorrow
oh ok
still regional tournament going on
Winner of those two games go to GF weekend
ohhh
With Shock and Dragons
but low chance of that happening with how washed up nyxl is
and how well justice has been recently
"well"
most underrated team has to be london spitfire i kinda feel sorry for them, everyone forgot about them honestly
pretty washed up team ngl
Hello. Does anyone know which countries are eligible for OWL tokens this time? Is it for most of the countries around the world or just 26 countries? The recent changes in their guidelines seems vague
and their coach is pavane so that solves why london sucks so much
I’m so sad about Florida today we did so good yesterday
If you go to the OWL page that has info on tokens (google "Overwatch league tokens") you should find the section that says "restrictions apply"
look there
@sly monolith ^^
Also
Justice have won more games in the playoffs than the regular season now
If these teams can't counter or mirror Justice's one trick zog comp they don't deserve to go to Korea
But the mayhem did good yesterday with the 3:0
It’s just that they one trick the reaper sombra
Comp
oh and of course there were people who doubted playoff shock
like they didnt win against philly in a finals match
lmao
Imagine calling shock washed because they lost to philly in a regular season game when Shock's most integral heroes were out of the pool
Good one
but bro a reg season game in a hero pool obviously means philly is better
heres the one thing thats consistent with shock, they do extremely well in almost every playoff scenario
They have the experience
they almost did the same thing last year where they made every playoff final
Shock were on the verge of reverse sweeping dragons in the stage 3 finals too lul
And then super threw
Mhm
paris was a 3-2
They lost to Atlanta because of an unforced error
it was all the down to the wire
i could understand why philly would be favor
but not by that much
I do think that it's partially because of how well philly has looked on the winston dive with sombra reaper
Especially with how Heesu had been performing
But people doubted crusty
Compared to ANS
And a week's worth of practice
That sombra seems so crcucial right now
but the zen dive was pounding
Runaway now is not OWL level, as fanboy-triggering as that sounds. People loved them for their underdog streak, and their vibrant brand/personality, but expecting them to get pick up is very unrealistic. They still have to actually win something first.
LLLLLL
If Shock wanna beat Dragons they do really need to work on their Zog comp
and seem to be better in most scenarios
idk think sombra/reaper is the answer to hog comps
Although I can see the NA teams having a tough time soon
its gotta be zen + long range hs
They have to sit in a hotel room alone for quarantine
Also yea shock used widow tracer to deal with zog
or ashe
And then the mercy zen
i could see NA teams running rein when apac teams run sigma/hog
sigma/hog gets run on sniper heavy maps
like havana
@tropic herald so these recent changes in the eligibility that was implemented on September 3 don't mean anything?
"The Promotion is open and offered to legal residents of most countries. Legal residents of Cuba, Iran, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Sudan, Crimea, and Syria, and other countries where restricted or prohibited by law are not eligible for the Promotion. Legal residents of the People’s Republic of China (which for the purposes of these rules, excludes Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan) and Japan are also not eligible for the Promotion. For Argentina, this promotion should be considered as temporary rules to grant benefits (the Tokens) for duly registered players in accordance with these Rules."
This only applies to those countries you mentioned? Those are the ones in "most countries"?
Idk
runaway is just too sexy
I just looked up what countries tokens were available in
although I stan lunatic hai
They are the only one that's running zog and they are fucking
man ranked was crazy back in og DS
the moment someone picked bastion all hell went loose
Fits didn’t have walls
thats cheeky af
He just assumed he had a safe angle
Like that angle is very good for widow unless the widow is where lip is
Unless Seoul are boomed from that I think Seoul win 3-2
Also I really want justice to win tomorrow
Just to see the insane malding
Same
ark getting revenge on philly from not allowing him to go to GF in 2018
The list you looked up is from June 23. These changes were made September 3, a week ago
which tank do u guys think are getting the all-star skins?
Silhouettes were yeah
And it was pretty obvious
Rein getting dono wall'd by Blizz

the trend was usually heroes from 2016
Mhm
I fully expected rein/dva
ill get the sigma one
Sigma skin Pog
sadge
is sigma decent in rank rn?
No
shit
He’s alright for sniper maps
i've been 1 tricking zen because fuck playing mercy rn
But dva is just better
Zen is a good hero to one trick
dont need mass healing if u kill them fast enough 
mercy main having a field day this patch
If there were heroes I’d one trick they’d be widow tracer zen and dva
dva gets fucked in ladder so hard
I could one trick the fuck out of ana or zen if I was forced to
still need to do my dps and tank placements
Dva is only shit on ladder because tanks on ladder are brain dead
How do you even play dva properly on ladder
dva is a team focused tank that doesnt have a shield
It’s pretty hard to play dva on ladder effectively
Especially when your other tank locks hog
u might as well play ball if you're thinking about playing dva
For ladder yea
I can feed a nation state on ball
however i play dva the most if rein is picked
If I'm playing rein I'd prefer a zarya tbh
Just because people in plat are less shit on zarya
But if the enemy has Pharah or double snipers then I go dva
zarya against double sniper? thats a pain in the ass
That’s why I’d swap off her
sigma or ball would be better
If it was last patch I would’ve just locked hog
yeah honestly as a tank there’s not a shit ton you can do about double sniper
just lock the hog and run around
You can do a lot
Patch b4 this was basically just death match honestly
However on ladder it won’t be very good
Click head battle
Bc you can shield chokes and hold angles and corners and protect your squishies
I guess you could help out on ball or sigma, dva literally no one knows how to play
But if your squishies don’t know the game well it doesn’t matter what you do
Bc they just peek angles they shouldn’t
Love watching my widow peek main, get their head blown off, get rez then they peak it again!!!
i think one aspect of widow people dont grasp very well is that downtime of not looking for kills is actually important
And also the aspect of don’t peek angles with multiple places the enemy sniper is unless you know where the enemy sniper is
IT MAKES ME SO MAD TO SEE WIDOWS HARD SCOPE MAIN ON HAVANA DO THEY NOT KNOW THAT THE ENEMY WIDOW COULD BE IN 20 SPOTS???
With widowmaker you need to be creative with the angles you use
And how frequently you use them
the widow mindgames is a real thing
Havana B is a perfect example of this
most of the time your losing as widow because the widow had the better sightline than you
not because their mechanically better than you
You as an attacking widow can take two angles as your team pushes the cart near the checkpoint
You can be on the highground over by the mini on the left
And dont focus on other widows
Or you can be in the doorway on the right
Which should be their priority
Guess which angle is better?
So you get ez kills
The right side angle is much better Bc there is only two places you have to check so you can basically hard scope it
However most widows take the left and now they have 4 angles
Just little things like that
Might’ve ranted about widow but
People malding on the subreddit about justice and decay
They must be fans of the teams that lost to justice

Basically every team justice beat and has lost to, is better than Justice as whole with or without Decay
They understood the meta better
Why are they fucking complaining
Are they actually saying that Decay is that valuable?
Jesus, get a life
And gut gud
Get a Zarya player yourself
Next time when those top teams have a good meta, they will be quiet once they beat down the lower ranked teams
decay and jjanu freaking carried ngl
They are so salty at losing
ye ik
it's hard to believe that justice won 3-0
Then play fucking better
everyone is malding hard rn
Eternal, Mayhem, Valiant, Fuel
Especially mayhem
Had 2 weeks to come up with strats to counter the Zarya Hog comp
Still lose
Proceeds to whine about it
And as some guy commented
5-6 weeks ago nobody said anything about decay, except saying justice is still dog shit
So now when they meta suits then, when they actually play a counter meta, they start to complain about Blizzard bending the rule for something they can't do anything about it, Justice in this case with having 6 players for play offs instead of 7 because lullsish got released
These Justice players, ttuba, has been working his ass off for it and that's starting to show
Stitch has been playing so good since his tanks create space and take all their attention away
Justice as a team is playing better
Not to say also that aimgod and his Ana flanks are great
Stitch was consistently winning duels against Ans lul
Stitch literally even with ANS, no one bats an eye
Decay is hot on Zarya, suddenly everyone loses their minds
They're not a bottom tier team
Just just need that one tank to create space and put pressure on enemy
Decay doing the work Roar should have done
This is actually a tank difference
Do any of you guys know of non-overwatch league /contenders tournaments to watch?
Nothing that's happening now
I just wanna watch overwatch with pick and ban yoo
@karmic grotto at the end of the day they lost to justice, and would of just gone to lose to philly or shock
dragons are already in the final 4
its the just the question of who faces them for the 1st round
my heart is ready for this game, ive already mentally prepared myself to lose 10 years of my life watching this
if nyxl loses i'll be so sad man
i just want them to be able to make it to the finals
same
we gon win dude, believe
nyxl would for sure have made it to the finals but with this new meta seoul does look strong
Imagine Washington gets to go to Seoul instead of Philly? 😄
It's like season 1 all over again,
honestly atleast without philly, half the cancer in youtube chat will go away
man i really miss the genji meta we had a few months ago
it was kinda getting a bit stale though, its good to have change
let the other heroes shine a bit as well
yeah what are you on about, sbb is also their mccree and ashe
man i really miss the genji meta we had a few months ago
@plush grail I don't. I just wish Plat genjis would accept that it's over, and they need to stop refusing to play anything but Genji
^ true
haksal reaper, sbb tracer would be good
sombra is meta though
as she should be
Too bad there's still a dozen ways in which Doomfist rewards not having any skill 😄
Xl losing 
dive vs hog?
WHY DO THE INSIST ON RUNNING HAKSAL ON SOMBRA
why the FUCK are they running the player known for his projectile heroes on SOMBRA
Remember when xl were actually good
Website is wayyy ahead of the stream
2-0 
Well it's been a good season NYXL fans, maybe next year. 

same
jjonak is an old man
jjonak is playing really good wdym?
I'm joking. for real tho, other teams have nyxl figured out, they don't have the flexibility hero wise and tempo wise, they have talent, just not execution
kk
exclusive photos yall
a picture of poko and benbest having sex
rip
wasn't even a choke this time, just a flop
I hope Washington wins
OWL management a few weeks ago: should we let decay join Washington?
Owl management: yeah sure maybe they can at least look competitive for a game or so
Owl management now: holy shit what have we done
Honestly Washington made the playoffs so much more interesting
so is the final four being played on the same playoffs patch?
Yes
oh nice
ill be cheering justice from now on
atleast if ark gets it, its technically nyxl still right?
😦
yeah theres a break
but all stars coming up soon?
say something about ow2 blizz pls
Skin reveal today though
My predictions were good but it wasn't available for Germany sadly
I had everything right except Washington and Toronto vs LaG
I'm not sure about mvp
Washington is kinda unfair for being all the way down there, but ok
75k would have gone to a team just for getting in the top 8 na, but washington threw a wrench in that
Mmmm no
OWL made a rule
Justice used a loophole
OWL didn’t care
Stop blaming Justice
What, trading players in for the finals?
The Decay signing
It shouldn’t have happened but the ones to stop it would’ve been the league not justice
I have been testing with amvs and I thought that I would put this one on youtube it isn't finished so yea enjoy
is shangai and seoul gonna fight again
Who's the scariest team rn
Shanghai
They mirrored what Seoul has been running for weeks and dominated
Idk
Hmm
It's sooo long
Soloq
I need my fix
Seoul won
We Need our fix
I dunno. A finals with Seoul in it doesn't really feel like a finals showcasing the best four teams based on't heir performances. It's not like Washington over the last few weeks.
??? Seoul has been fucking tf you mean
Seoul 3-0ed a team that nearly brought shanghai to 6 maps and they brought shnaghai to 5 maps, Seoul are good rn
Look better than philly ngl
So for the finals do the two losers face off first and the two winners?
Or like one loser and one winner
Rip NYXL
goats colorized
Welp
also, gesture's pp is so big
Nah
No
?
Did they say they were revealing it?
A tweet?
Hm
Just saw that
They still havent revealed them
As far as i know
Probably for NA games
At least we get to see them today
And not october
I'm just waiting for justice vs fusion baby
Justice fusion
justice looks unstoppable
Hm
Because it’s justice
I think
They look abusive
Id take justice
Playoff profit is out
Dude
he’s so good
Id like to see justice vs seoul
gesture's hog
Is literally fucking big dick
did Profit even get considered for MVP in season 1
ok good
Because Profit is ridiculous
It's all good
him and fleta
ikr
Are the gods of flex
profit bodied carpe
it was Jjonak, Carpe, and Profit
Profit bodied everyone
Profit 2018 is back
like lowkey best hog
profits 5k in the finals
also creative
jjanu hog tho
Hmmm
this match
Would seoul beat justice?
Idk
I would think so
It’s the battle of zog
I think they are more stacked on paper
They just run on chaos, the comp
It barfs our damage and is so cheesy
profit literally just be like fuck it, pharmercy time
yeah but Stitch
yeah butfits
Stitch so good rn
Like a 3-1 or 3-2
Itd be close honestly
Justice DPS have stepped up
Stitch is one of the best ashes ive seen this playoffs
Decay has grav on cd it’s insane
true
he uses it to clean up fights
I think he's a top ashe rn
like damn
yesterday on Ilios Well, Decay built up grav in 40 seconds
Profit is just
but like he can pop off when fits is on sombra
good
very
And when he isnt good
fits and profit went double sniper on busan
and just bodied nyxl in like the first 10 seconds
He's never really washed
bang bang pow pow
His widow has been something else this playoffs
but like he can duel lip no problem
ok maybe he got cucked that one time on havana but shush
Gesture was fire on the hog
His hooks god dayum
but then again I think haksal's sombra is just hot garbage
I think lowkey they should have just put sbb on sombra
and let libero or nenne hitscan
I didn’t watch the match didnt he just keep swapping to genji
lul even when he’s nerfed
I mean he do be haksal
Haksal 's sombra is good but he just had a weak performance today
bruh
Gesture is just here for the sneakers
it has not been that impressive
I don’t think NY losing to Seoul is anything special
I didn't watch the nyxl vs dragons match
They were just another team that got rolled by a weird comp
Heck Shanghai barely beat Seoul
im proud dad
all the clowns who said zog wasn’t good
they ain’t laughing now
“Full dive counters zog anyday” zog proceeds to force Shanghai to switch off
Zog is stronk
I still think the genji set up has a chance to break it down though
Genji set up?
Like what Florida did
you farm nanoblade but decay literally gets grav up before genji gets blade
they are an unstoppable force
Yeah, gotta farm the nanoblade quicker than the grav and obliterate the back line
kinda ineffective though
Even then, they'd do what the did on numbani and swap to zen
True, it's why I only said there's a chance 
Seems like a sig one tirck these days
Could stick profit the god on zarya
Sidesh omegalul
Valiant? lul

valiant?
slime more like benched
literally nobody replaces tobi ever
you can sign moth/leejaegon and tobi will just absorb their skills and toss them to the bench
He has stayed relatively relevant
when are they announcing all stars skins
im going to be pissed if justice win
I feel like the stars alligned for them to create a perfect meta for their shitty team comp
if MT comes back they will get dominated at finals so it would suck if they made it
grand finals are on the same patch as the playoffs apparently
justice are fine
if they make it
same
I think shock makes it
Shock looked sloppy vs hog zarya
shock vs shanghai finals
Idk I like shock but I dont see it
yes shock vs philly was one sided
But today will show you that didnt mean much
Today is probably going to be a 3-0 on either side
Well I wouldnt mald anymore the 3-0 everyone and 3-1ed valiant
It's crazy how the dragons are one of the strongest teams in the league now and in season 1 they went 0-40
Yeah
they changed rosters + coaching staff
they actually realized they were bad and made changes unlike other teams
cough cough fuel cough cough
Seeing that my ny are gone
i want shock to win
oFc you want shock to win
I don't want shock to win
I feel like a win back to back is boring
super's post gf win stream

They wont
Nearly lost to justice but boomed fusion
I see it
Soe is back, I'm happy
I see seoul vs shanghai realistically
Like I hope wash get ther ebut I dont think they can beat shanghai
Decay tracking Kreygasm
idk I think fusion will win right here
If carpe doesn't fucking choke
is he even playing
Its not all up to carpe
Up to chipsa
Well jjanu hog vs fist
This is the moment
philly lost vs shock because they didnt bring out chipsa
alright im watching the china broadcast
Obviously
dude its 3am in china but there's still 150k viewers
maybe
na 17k pepelaugh
dude are they really gonna wait until the end of the entire broadcast for the all star skins reveal
yes
Kinda obvious tho.
You dont need to wonder when you know itll probably be dva and rein or monkey
watch its orisa and sigma
anyone know when they are releasing who mvp is
After finals
same for all star skins im assuming?
No
chipsa mvp
Those are today
I thought mvp was today too?
?
they're revealing the skins but not releasing them i think
What time do they get revealed
that's what i was asking
Probably after this game
0.6% LUL
Ok
Alright
I think this goes full maps
Theres only 1 game
there is only one game today which is washington vs phily
starts in 8 mins
Oh the times are confusing in the esports announcements they don’t include ET
Soe looks odd
I would love to see chipsa play for the second ever time and absolutely dominate
YOU SHOULD HAVE HELPED MERCYYYYYY
no pls
YOU SHOULD HELPED ANY KIND OF SUPPORT
Did scott just said mercy lives matter?
brenjihyper
ez dub for decay

Reinforce 5head
all philly need to do is focus decay
You do know decay isnt the only one stepping up, right?
i want justice to win so bad
Their 6 players up rn are all playing amazingly
yes but when decay is taking damage his healers rush to his aid then the other players arent getting heals
it happened to the shock
Jjanu second best offtank last year, decay carry, ttuba raping ppl, stitch playing amazing, aimgod is literally an aimgod, ark is on his legendary mercy
All amazing
i agree
void was a really good mt last year
not
stitch has carried harder than decay in the last few matches
not just teammates
Yes void was good last year but jjanu was number 2
if decay lives they can always win
He builds a grav every fight
thats literally nuts
One of the slwest charging ults in the game
No it charges fast
What?
It middle tier
Its one of the slowest
against no shield comps it charges pretty fast
something a lot of people forgot last year because of how crazy sinatraa was, was that decay was an insane zarya player
yeah zarya ult is slow
decay was not that good
Talking in general its one of the slowest
in goats
well i yeah if no shield it charges faster
Because he was on glads pepelaugh
but still slow
what's our prediction then?
i want was
Justice 3-0
im going with phili
nah like he just wasn't that good in goats
I really can't call this one
Not as expensive as bongo, bliz, or beat
but he's really good now
ima say phili 3 -1
Justice 3-0 all the way baby
grav charges as fast as nano, barrage, blossom
Because shock beat philly 3-1 and justice lost to shock 3-2
phily 3-1


does the viewers count if watching on the site instead of YT i never found out?
let's gooo
the shanghai justice
yeah i heard that tooo
I love that justice were literally the worst na team and have made it this far
its kinda funny
houston
Go big or go home
vancouver
justice was one of the worst not the worst





