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Okay so from what ive seeb
Ok I'm watching the game now
The grandfinals should be fusion shanghai
Just a bad map for LAV really. KSP having to junkrat
This game is going to be a MTD. Dreamer is just the weak link for LAV
https://twitter.com/aimgod_ow/status/1302732320756174857?s=19
@north tendon you! I thought you were dead (on this server)!
Nah justice for finals
Smh this has been a good year of tournaments
Mayhem and Justice finally redeeming themselves
how in the fuck did they keep that
Now Justice with Roar and JJanu (and former rival) is his best friend
It's fusion
big main tank difference
rolled
That was quick
main tank diff
philly casually dispatching of valiant
Just team diff tbh
I do love seeing valiant getting rolled 🙂
who took that
Fusion should win easily really. I bet their roster wages are 2x or 3x that of LAV lol
How did they keep point right there
Holy crap
Screw mayhem I like fusion so much better
bandwagoner
These questions are so dumb
Ye u do
even if you go 2-18
Ugh, why is Puckett back for finals? :/
you have to endure it
Who is puckett
damn
the guy whos doing the trivia
Puckett just doing some filler content
Oh
Oh no shock v fusion
Again
i mean
Shock roll fusion 2 electric boogaloo
The trivia is dumb easy
in the last match of fusions season
Who was the other host they had last year that was bragging about moving on from OWL was a step up and allowed him to earn more doing freelance work etc?
Shock is gonna crush them
Probably Monte
Were they bragging in the stream lol
One of the other desk hosts. See, he was so impactful I can't even remember his name 😄
@feral zodiac In an interview earlier this year. Pre-covid.
Lets see
maybe late last year.
Lul
it went bad
Yeah
na production 
Noah A Pradukshen
zog is meta apparently
zarya hog isn't really meta
top teams are still running monkey dva usually
lmao
i know lmao
Winston on kings row feels so wrong
Why is Shax using reaper ult when 2 down 😐
Big brain
heesu?
Paris you but disappointment 
I slept through the first 2 games
How tf paris get 3-0
Because Paris are bad
paris arent bad
this good overwatch
its just decay
fusion have only lost 2 fights in this series lmfao
Paris are average in this meta
Why is reaper being played so much
They have shit tank depth
Is he good now?
Can't even just say it was Decay. Paris were bad vs ATL yesterday too
Why is reaper being played so much
@torn fossil he poses a threat to hogs when d.va helps him
my guess is because reapers the best dps against winston
reaper doesnt get affected by hacks
And winston yeah
and he keeps the tanks in check
Ah
also with no brig reapers pretty good
Reaper allows you to just press W into enemy. Hacks dont do much to him
and his ult is good against lucio moira
eh
Nah
paris really look eh when no sparkle genji
Moira heals through his ult with coal
And boop fucks over blossom
moira does 205 hps at most
Yeah
blossom does 300
Shax/KSP just aren't good at Reaper/Sombra honestly. They're going to struggle in this meta vs a good enemy
fusion have still only lost 2 fights this series
i mean dm can pretty much negate blossom by itself
LMAO the score on the OWL tab in game is 0-2
True
they already know valiant gonna lose
guys
also you dont really use coal defensively
Fights or games
fights
huge hack on rain
in 2 maps combined
Site is always way ahead of us
LAV need to try play Ashe/Tracer or this is GG
heesu is the best sombra no lie
that hack on rain was huge
Rain just chillin then Heesu arrived
i hope someone in the stream points out that valiant have won 2 fights
2 FIGHTS
in both maps combined
LAV are never going to win this mirror match up. They need to do something different to stand a chance.
heesu pog
yeah
valiant doesnt stand a chance in general
i think they could do better if ksp locks the mccree
Heesu is the only sombra rn i see that can stand a chance against lip
Fusion are better at every single one of the 6 heroes in this mirror. By a long way
heesu > lip
Nomegalul
Put KSP on Ashe, put Shax on tracer. They are arguably 2 of the best at those heroes in OWL. If they want to stand a chance they need ot change
thats map dependant tho
LAV have map picks because they're losing
tru
@hot heart haksal's sombra matched lip today
why did they pick kings row tho
whenever heesu's on sombra it just looks like sombra diff
LAV are not going to win sombra/reaper match up no matter how hard they try. KSP/Shax are not good enough at those heroes vs Ivy/Heesu
what do u guys think of doing everything the same just putting ksp on mccree
Mccree is awful
how
cree feels awful
its not that patch
oh
He has 0 mobility, and his range is limited
mccrees been played this tourney quite a bit
The coverage is apparently not continuing
i thought u were just talking about regular ladder play for some reason
range isn't a thing in this meta
Sure it is. You play range and high grounds. You stop the reaper just running at you
cree sucks ass against winston dva dive
or they should at least swap ksp and shax's positions the way florida did, shax is good at tracking and ksp played reaper in the beyblade meta
Idk why they nerfed mccree
mccree's historically been the counter to winston dva but it is different with lucio in the game
they nerfed mccree because his damage was insane after healing nerfs
Mccree is just vulnerable against dive
cree was mostly meta against tracer genji dive i think
Mcree was meta when you had double shield to hide behind/use or you were playing mei
hey guys, are there heroes banned during playoffs ? if yes who's banned atm ?
no hero bans
nope
ok thanks 🙂
Valiant will end up vs Justice I think if they lose this right?
That could be an interesting match
Justice gonna boom the lower bracket
Depends, they looked vunerable to the Ashe/Tracer comp yesterday, which LAV are good at
washingtons looked good on zog
ngl
if they play dive maps then valiant might win
Justice also ahvent played a good sombra team really either
They played it incredibly close vs shock
But if they rematch it's a question of who learned more from the other
Justice look determined to win
justice is mostly only good on zog
Shock will have learnt far more, as Justice basically play 1 comp only
they dont really have a good main tank
The only teams I really fear for them is Philly and Shock
Justice can whip out ball comps
but I want to see one thing
Shock vs philly
rein zar rush comps
get goats 2.0 up in this bitch
jjanu plays ball?
Philly will probably just dominate because they play Sombra sadly
idk how good jjanus zarya is lmao
2-0
tbh valiant could be doing a lot worse
prolly a 3-0 vs valiant
is valiant good at zog
Shanghai Philly finals I’m feeling
Shanghai taking it
Shock just doesn’t have a sombra
If LAV run Sombra/Reaper this is GG
rip
And I think unless Seoul goes true London mode they’ll just get beaten by the top 3 teams
fusion have now lost 4 fights this series
Fusion are going to come in and set a 5:10 record time
wild
rolled
5 fights now
5 min bank let's go
i was 16 secs off
jake with the mega brain
Wait did fusion get a shorter time
Feeling like LAV are just being too stubborn now and not willing to take a chance at swapping
LAV got 2 mins, Fusion 4 mins
O
i when to go eat at the start of this map and its still going
2cp moment
4 mins to hold point A. Do they actually consider changing anything yet
i want to see bastion
this one isnt that long tbh it could have been more time
They finally swap... when it's like last chance
rip
F
well i dont know if shock is goning to the finals
fusion is just insane
Depends how much value you think ANS/Striker can get vs Ivy/Heesu
Heesu EMP was a lot slower vs that comp then
Why does heesu look like he's from Arkham asylum
i love how everyone is terrified of washington now
yeah the only way alt wins if shock throw so they can go to the finals
washingtons only good at zog
why would shock throwe
LOL
@dark hedge false
If WAS didnt pick up Decay they probably wouldnt be as good as they are now ?
probs not
i was joking
roar is dogshit
Def not
decay is an upgrade
they dont have a main tank player
Washington are basically a zog team, they don't play anything else
hog ball comps are all they can play
Roar is probably a shit hog and zarya
or zog
They would be doing dive comps
Will be another patch change before finals ?
no
yeah i do want to see decay on ashe but that means roar is playing OmeagLUL
Stitch tracer and ttuba reaper?
Well no shit homie he’s a mt
Meh
Hmm
How did rOar go from a good MT (in contenders) to the worst MT in OWL
yeah it would be cool if atlanta got the upset though
its like shock 2-1 right?
no idea
Because contenders vs owl is a totally different skill level
I knew it
But i didnt watch much contenders then
Fusion sweeping valiant
If any
It was a given
Ye
in OWL main tanks get punished a lot harder than contenders. To be fair to Roar, it's also the MT role that always looks worst when your whole team is bad
I called it
the rest of justice is ok
yeah its 2-1 shock so they have more wins rn
Probably because its aimed at casual watchers to keep them engaged
like i wasnt sure it was fleta until they said he has a stat named after him
If rumours are true, he doesn't play OW outside of scrims/owl anyway. Sounds like he's not interested
yeah just having a paycheck is prob good for him
Justice probably would have picked up another main tank mid season if there was one easily available I suspect
Good map for Shock to get control on
just violet things
Have shock forgotten about the point?
how did sharp die
Imagine Shock getting knocked in to the lower bracket two years in a row? 😄
yeah i wouldnt believe that if i got told that
By Atlanta, I forgot to add.
Could believe it this year, this meta is probably one of the worst for Shock
would be funny
this is why i like striker ans
Viol2t and ANS need to play together more. Moth is having to go between them and struggling
MOTH
LUL edison bad
shock on ilios lighthouse is op
What was the rest of ATL doing while Shocks 2 supports were vs Edison lol
dying
am i seeing this wrong or is ans on sombra
He is
why
Not a great map for Ashe
ok but isnt striker their sombra player
monkee hunted
Striker is the better reaper
also whos sharp
ATL hitscan player, probably their best sombra
Fusion won?
when did they pick him up
Start of season
is striker bad at sombra i dont know
I think he didn't come of age until a couple of months in
lmao
wait if they had sharp why didnt they play him before
instead of running edison and erster
Because Sombra wasn't really meta before now
is sombra the only thing sharp can play?
ah
well a good sombra can change the tune of battle
Did fusion win
in this meta i mena
Fusion won yes, 3-0
Good
Only way I see Fusion not making it, is if Shock boom them, and Justice surprises them in loser brackets
yeah its relies on shock to beat them
justice prob wont beat fusion or shock
the only reason they came close to beating shock was because shock mirrored them on zog
Shock also tried to force sombra too when they arent good at it
Rascal
Who was shocks dps man?
rascal is bad at sombra
ANS?
They can play it sure, but vs a team with a sombra specialist it's not good
fair
striker can be main dps
Striker is insanely good
yeah i agree
It's like KSP, he's amazing at Ashe/Widow etc, his Sombra is good, but vs Heesu? It was awful
Striker 40% EMP vs Sharp 75%
that was so much damgae
shock throwing
there are using there ults well
Choi's hog seems pretty bad honestly. Very feedy
THATS MY FUCKING TEAM BRO
They're being full held because they're trying to play fucking sombra again
wow
0%
LETS GOOOOO
roster depth
for Grand Semis maybe
4 dps on roster and they can't play Sombra or Genji honestly. Big roster gap for shock
ta1yo
Ifs amazing how shock have barely hung on by a thread for their last... 4 games?
Clearly, they'll field Super on DPS next map
pretty well sure, but to the level you expect from shock? Probably not
why would you want a genji rn
Rascal genji is good
I mean, I guess
got boomed by sparkle but still good
let them run super on genji. i want it
why did they run zarya hog
Shock just seem bad when Viol2t is on Moira too
shock fans are probably saying well shock has only played this map once this season lul
or they are prob saying well this meta isnt theirs
Idk. Shock are good, but for some reason the last month hasnt been good for them. Its like they learn lessons but they’ve been learning the wrong ones.
Moth just used Beat. Sharp has a free EMP
they have coal
The meta is not in their favor
well they were good at 2x shield thats maybe it like they can play other thing but not really well like they play it ok
Coal doesn't stop emp
And you can't hide from emp on moira
ANS fed
wew
you need to be with your team
u can dodge it with fade
I mean they just ran the wrong comp
seems kinda obvious lol
they ran the worse comp on offense and got no ticks
ults dont matter when your EMPd
Shock have played 3 different people on Sombra in past 2 games, and it's worked 0% of the time. Give it up
that blossom tho
Super Sombra time?
lmao
They got Ta1yo Super and Twilight
why twilight
that one took me a second then i got it
They'll try Twilight on brig next
Hey man why not Moth on Sombra
Maybe even Danteh on sombra
Honestly I'd trust Moth with EMP over all the Shock players
man, remember when they did trivia like this back when they were streaming from twitch? sucks i cant get tokens for it.
They all got some good sombras kinda weird that shock doesn’t run them?
If there is a player on Shock who is going to use a good EMP at the right time for their team, it'd be Moth
Nevix on sombra
Shock signing back Danteh would be pretty nice. Imagine a Danteh/Striker/Smurf/Choi dive
Put ANS on Baptiste and play him as a 3rd dps
Shock signing back Danteh would be pretty nice. Imagine a Danteh/Striker/Smurf/Choi dive
@weak bolt yes please
no i want Hou to be better so no signing him back
shock is scared, so their gonna swap members to try n make it work. 100%
Shock don't need to swap members, they just need to not play Sombra/Moira lol
Outlaws are a lost hope, give it up 😄
@weak bolt i bet u 30 pennies they make a swap
just wait t
Outlaws would need a Lucio/Ana/Ball/Dva/Sombra/Doom meta for the whole season to stand any chance :p
well if this meta was vivable earlier in the season it wouldnt have been bad
Danteh on sombra and blase on doom is just killer
Yeah, then you just need a viable MT that hydration can play :p
holy shit these ads
whos gonna win the finals
def not Shock
yea they have been doing pretty bad lately
context?
huuuge bank

lul
2cp is 2cping
wow
man
Shock does things when they don't throw
ow
omg you can only draw
Reign def ain't winning this
yeah, can't even win this
well they cant lul
not this map lol
wait why does shock have 5 mins lmao
bc 2cp
they rolled
bcuz striker tracer
won fight first point then emp
didn't Shock choose this team?
no
there's no choosing anymore correct me if I'm wrong
they chose who then?
bruh emp
did this guy just build emp in like 40 seconds
no one choses anymore
yes bc its sombra
yesterday they were talking about Shock choosing something
It's seeded now
idk this one
^
Is there a game after this?
yes
ok i got it right becuase i was guessing the only asian sounding one
Tokki just sounds more Korean than the others
which game after this
none
PRINGLES ADS
this is the last
Nah this is the last match for the week
yeah thought so
cool play dance playlist
Theres a music playlist for everyone
No
Almost
bruh
Give them Kings row lol
ans playground
SUPER
Lol
Escort maps: Dorado, Havana, Junkertown, Route 66
Pity map
is rialto not an option?
Whoever said Kings Row has missed map 2
oh shit
oop
why would they pick a map so sniper heavy against ans
But damn is there a lot of maps you have to master already
edison is incredible but a widow duel is tough
its not like super is bad its just his pool isnt big
Why is ans on bastion
its a meme
Ok
ok good
Wow
Oh nvm
lol
MTD
squish
MTD
oh I didnt realize erster was in
ok
big MTD
well its good to fight at start anyways so they get another fight
shock kinda wins
pls reign just hold this game out a lil bit longer
I am 5 tokens away from another skin
super!
Lmao
tasty rein plays
well all you need is 400 i think for the all star tank skins this year
how do u get tokens
watxhing on the site
When do they come out
is that only for pc
i dont remember and it goes on console
oh you can also watch on youre phone on the app
how do i watch on the site
Can I get tokens still if I play on console
How
oh you have to sign in and connect your blizz acc
I dony think I have a blizzard account
you have it on console so thats the account
um
Just use my psn or something?
i think i have it on pc
make blizz acc then link psn to it
there hari knows
Alr
striker lmao
tactical crouch*
LUL zp
No one is better than shock at rein rush
thats the trivia
Tactical crouch spam
ZP is easily my favorite caster
wait
moth lul
what if im on xbox
I am actually going to be so annoyed if I am 5 tokens away because I slept through the first two games today

same thing i'd guess
holy shit
yeah edison is streaky
edison wtf
hes either omg or poopoo
what was that
Super whiffed that lol
I don't even know
that kinda felt like a bumper slam
Striker is awesome
i really dont like ans on mei
Ans isnt being a good mei
that wall
Bad Ult usage
Oh that block
Reign just through I think
SUPER
SUPER NOO
OHNOOO
this is super losable by reign
1 more fight
Lol super
omg
Gg
HOLY SHIT
well gg
gg
dude
HOLY FUCK
gg
is anyone else getting a error screen?
Lol super and choi talking
yeah i have
bruh wtf
do you get tokens when you watch the after show shit
No it's still working for me
i had to go to YT
YT stream still working
unexprcted error
i assume you get tokens
mine's good too
I am literally 5 tokens away don't make me wait another week bruh
in the AS

Shock does not look good this playoff ngl
tank i get the same error idk
it keeps giving me a error screen
yeah the phone app works fine
im using my x box
I'm using my pc
I am literally 5 tokens away don't make me wait another week bruh
@tawdry hamlet that's the worst lmao
it is depressing because I slept through 4 games this weekend so I could have like 130 rn

i missed the whole end of it man wtf
If they force the sombra dive mirror I think it will be 3-1 philly
If it's some sniper or rein rush comp mirror shock could take it
Yeah there’s no way
my fucking god y is it we always have to fight mayhem.
Why ducking moth again
theres been more atl v mayhem games than LA v LA games
cuz they probably pick who does interviews
and it's generally the western players for shock
I want super tho
i dont wanna see supers 5 head
jeez
shock didn't practice the rein comp
just said fuck it and went for it
those remnants of goats are still strong
2021 is that going to be in person?
did shock win?
Yes
3-1
Anyone watching postshow?
no lmao
Fair enough
do you get tokens from it
No
I’m seeing a Seoul/Shanghai/Philly/Shock bracket for the gf
Shanghai Philly finals
Shanghai taking it 4-2
Y'all know what happend to paris?
They got boomed
the season is a whole asterisk
I bet he has a whole stash
Justice monkaS
Bro i swear Washington is on something
Adderall
they are taking shots of decays blood
I hate the idea of that yet it might be true.
who won the shock v reign match
Shock
3-1
Then next week we have Shock v Philly, Atlanta v Mayhem, and Justice v Valiant
Whoever wins the last two games face off
Then the wonder of that faces loser of Shock Philly
Loser*
I'm actually super interested in the shock philly rematch
i cant wait
Because shock has been looking pretty good on the zen mercy winston dva tracer ashe comps
And I wonder how it would fair vs philly sombra dive
im a shock fan but my whole friend group likes the fusion
i think we just need to not force smurf to play zarya or anybody hes uncomfy with
i think that he should just stick with winston
Philly will at worst 3-1
why dont they put ta1yo on zarya? idk just throwing out some hypotheticals
he's probably grinding heroes rn, so why not add zarya ykno
how do i get one of those wallpaper thingies
that they advertised during the livestreams of the games
thanks
Anybody know why I didn't get any tokens from any of the matches yesterday? I usually watch on my phone which always gives me tokens, and last night was no different. Sad that all those hours of watching didn't get me any tokens 😦
Tokens have been broken since they switched to youtube
haven't been able to get tokens reliably since then
Tokens may take up to 48 hours for delivery.
I haven't received any tokens since the Countdown Cup
same lol
matches continue tmrw right?
no
Actual F
Philly is the better team tbh
Shock has a better record but philly is more refined and a cleaner play, kind of like justice, they look so textbook in their comps vs shock which are good but doesn't feel as coherent
Idk im high af and over analyzing
Really disappointed with charge 
I mean, seoul is never going to beat shanghai it's just weird that summer showdown winner is best by seoul
I have 95 tokens
And the next match isn’t till the 11th
I have the big sad
And yeah Philly will beat Shock
Justice and philly going to finals with shanghai and seoul/ny
I think ny and seoul are similar
Both can beat anyone else but shanghai
I have 95 tokens too lmao
Just farm tokens lol
so when are we getting the schedule?
It is out
You click on playoffs
Then scroll through the top tab and hit schedule
yeah
lol
justice vs valiant and shock vs philly
def watching those
seoul vs dragons might be interesting
ye
damn I'm looking back at old matches and the goats meta was so fucking boring to watch
luckily i wasn't that interested in owl back then because having to watch 10 hours of goats every weekend would be so fucking boring
how was owl when goats was a thing tho
because legit every game was just goats
did people enjoy it?
yeah like you said basically
I did enjoy some rein plays since I love rein but yeah it just got chaotic and boring
there are smart plays but people wont catch those spectating
every team fight was so passive and maybe only dva bombs or rein shatters were fun
honestly most teams also had lackluster goats which didnt help
shock and titans rocked it though
like yeah the games between them especially were amazing
but thats most of that season for me
but like
months of just
tanks smacking eachother till they get ultimate
first kill decides the fight
man I can't imagine enjoying owl with stuff like that
double shield was already too boring
also i love all the bitching main tank players rn
mad cause their rein isn't meta
remember when the entire dps role was not viable for like a year
Latter half of this season got really good imo
Hey friend, you’re finally awake. That fall looked pretty bad.
What? No perfect brackets? Paris out? Washington playoff run?
What are you talking about, let’s get ready for round one this weekend. Houston/Boston is first!
I did too, I like watching how ult fights play out and my team was not terrible at it so it was ok
Goats was like peak Teamwork OW. You needed total synergy in everything. Now we're in a meta where single players can hard carry games
Yeah I’m not as big of a fan of that
But in goats if you had a good Zara and a good rien you would be ok
And double shield in playoffs last year was anything but boring
Shock will beat fusion change my mind
Also I think Seoul will upset Shanghai on Saturday
fusion has looked so clean
Shanghai isn't losing lmao

Shock is losing and Fusion is going up against shanghai
shanghai has great players and you can't boom them
at all
they managed to beat seoul 4-3 when it started 3-0
why did it go down 3-0 doe
the best OW player would know who’s the best team smh
i mean i would also be more scared of justice
Decay might be the best player in the world like wtf
big facts
his carry potential is just crazy
He literally got Fuel to a Map 5 with the Shock
miro 
miro is the goat
thx
probably guxue
chances justice will win the league?
Gesture
Guxue is the best with primal
Smurf and guxue would be my picks
Y'all Triumph and Malibu disbanded
Triumph cause, well, t2 OW
and Malibu cause they supposedly did something shitty to a former player
Whomegalul
they are both contenders/trials teams
No i meant
Who is that former player
They must've done something pretty bad to disband
What
I mean you guys did literally trial my spot without even telling me and scrimmed in another discord so I wouldn't know. Also didn't play today because I didn't want to have your entire staff team leave once you lost since you care more about your staff than your players. http...
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OIC= Oh I see
wannnnnnnB is the name
you can see them in former players
no profile tho
The hell
Imagine going through that much effort
Why wouldn't you just drop him
Or tell him
i knew i’d get scapegoated after i came back xD today’s loss had nothing to do with comp and everything to do with sloppy execution and indecisiveness
768
Anyone here think Seoul could pull off the upset?
it is contenders hehe
who cares unless it is team doge
and that is only because i am an aspen simp
ㅋㅋ 쿠쿠루삥뽕 애새끼들 애미 디져ㅆ나 봐 ㅋㅋ 시ㅂㅏㄹ년ㄷㄹ
@orchid zodiac meeee #1 seoul clown here
translate did not translate that well
wass up bois
Why is your name cartoon networl Middle east is alive
Your pfp is cursed
Anyone want to join a ESPORTS ???????


