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I genuinely can't tell who is going to win this overall
nyxl is still one of the best teams, no doubt. but SHD is SHD!!!
What if APAC Finals is between NY and Shanghai again
WASHINGTON OUTTA NO WHERE-
After watching WAS vs SFS today, I can't help but think SFS might not even make it to Korea
There is no apac finals
i'd say shock maybe but the justice took them to map 5 so idk
there are no apac finals
Washington probably could tbh
Also with how washington played
for finals
Remember WAS did the same thing last year - last 7 matches ๐
LeeJaeGon Potm
They could be considered a good team
Well
They were fucking nuts
decay jjanu and stitch
Wait so what's next week
you could make washington stacked
Next week is na vs apac
time for the big one
What
the next match, i dont know nothing bout charge. are they good?
no
Is the final on the weekend
Washington loooked really promising at the end of last year then wtf happened?
they're bad
Pls tell me it's on the weekend
idk where charge is at right now
Itll probably be shock vs shanghaia nd philly vs ny or charge
/s
they're bad?
because playoff seoul is unpredictable
2nd spot if i saw that right
Charge can be very good some metas .Mediocre in others I guess
but this aint their best meta
if you didn't know anything memorable about the Charge, why would you expect them to win now?
ok
Charge gang rise up
I've gotta say
outside of playoffs i probably would have favoured gz
i havent really followed OWL in 2019 and 2020. meaning i dont know much about charge ๐
but like playoff seoul
I've never seen the owl meta shift as much as it has in the past few months
they've smashed Seoul several times against each other in the past 2 years
Charge might just pull out some ass meta
the only teams i've followed were phili, shd and sinaatra
seoul weren't looking bad
Charge is not a deep roster
sinatraa my fav team
think Vancouver
^
We're getting pretty different metas every patch
Okay technically there is an APAC Final fight me
but they slap with Eileen from China
No?
the rest of the squad is all korean
Who ever wins loser bracket and winner bracket fight the two na teams that do the same
Ah yes, eileen, my favourite chinese name
Charge kinda similar to Paris in this meta. Cr0ng can't carry on D.va as easily.. just as Hanbin couldn't carry. Hanbin rly wasn't amazing
^ and eileen & sparkle too
come on eileen
Molly, Eileen, Bianca
Ellen is na
oh i swear what he means
not korean'
I found out Elsa was originally called Ninja but he changed to Elsa.. Ninja would be a rad name
Ellen is na
@balmy wolf ?
Eileen is Chinese lol
Eileen isnt korean
who said he was
Where lol
maybe that's why he was in instead of Happy and Shu
the rest of the squad is all korean
@balmy wolf ?
shu underrated
long have we waited
Are Nero and Neptuno back?
But like I mean next week it's Shanghai vs winners of this next one
Shu only underrated by NA viewers i think.. they just forget
"All these asain players with western names. Elsa Eileen bianca"
So it's basically APAC Winners Final
Neptuno mercy would be fun t o see
H A P P Y A C T I V A T E D
who underrates Shu? He's a nut
We're going to get some nero, bet
eileen is a western female name
@ebon aurora Paris fans kek
so is Bianca
Guys did u know
theres literally a song called "come on eileen"
Shu is only underrated by people who havenm't seen him play
And then I assume for Grand Final it's APAC Winners v NA Losers and APAC Losers vs NA Winners?
theres literally a song called "come on eileen"
@severe tusk Ik its a western name but it was implied that hes asain when hes not
???
@balmy wolf China is Asia though. That's why I said ASia instead of Korea because Elsa was included too
china is asia?
Uhhh
tf r u on about
eileen... is asian
China is asia
he's chinese...
Oh I thought he was american..
Wat
nah lol
did u switch Nero and Eileen or some shit
I heard something like he was the only american mvp canidate
SPARK INTRO MUSIC HAHAHA
There isn't an american mvp candidate lul
the league needs more team-intromusic
there are no american mvp candidates i dont think
Charge asking seoul to bow down 10/10
No all korean but him
I think Charge have fully committed to running this. Their callouts are very korean leaning
why am I not able to log in on the owl website
Being a Spark fan is suffering
Your monthly reminder that cr0ng is a rookie
Do people only pick spark cuz its pink
@sullen berry WAIT?!! CR0NG'S A ROOKIE?!!!
pig's feet = Sigma + Hog
What's the Grand Finals format?
APAC Winners v NA Losers and APAC Losers vs NA Winners?
/bren
ah well easy mistake i guess
fair
Shanghai won Countdown Cup
yeah they won showdown
charge that is
I remember waking up and being shocked paris and charge won
Dragons/Spark were finals last time and it was glorious
Chara was best Brig and Rio insane Orisa during that meta. am a little less confident about their other heroes
still good players tho
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Dragons/Spark was a depressing match
WAIT CR0NG IS A ROOKIE
I didn;'t watch that H A P P Y because it's not on spotify :L(
oh but it is
is it? It wasn;t before
Anyway inb4 New York v Shanghai at the Grand Finals
It'll be the hottest bracket take of all time
listen to it on Spotify
Almost as crazy as seeing the Boston upset
live every Tuesday
that would be so pog
oh wow they're on Spotify???
New York v Shanghai has very high chances of happening
Charge tyme
with a bit of money, a podcast can go wide
Are they on any RSS feeds
Dragons fucking dominated cc
we haven't seen charge play today and they might do a shock and be shaky
I usually listen to it at Gym but haven;t been for a while cos am a lazy fattie
there are 5 different Overwatch related podcasts I listen to during the week
Plat chat is 10/10
POG
I don't like the High Noon Podcast. PLat CHat and Fourheads are only esports related podcasts i have
Happy can boom Profit
kek
happy have mercy
yep
God damn
happy doping
YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT IT IN A HIGHLIGHT REEL - HAPPY TOO FAST
jesus christ happy
He applied a controlled substance on his hands
the game just started
Holy shit
happy with that 1 grit sandpaper LUL
aint that ans?
yea
i wanna see happy vs ans
all stars probably
i think decay might be the best player in the world
do we think this sombra-reaper-winston-dva-lucio-moira comp is going to be the meta for the whole of playoffs?
Maybe
Hog is meta
I can't believe I'd see the day again
Hog is meta and Dive is valid
nah winston dva has been played more I'm pretty sure
Brings a tear to my eye
As a support I'm living for it
literally the only bad tank rn is orisa
It's 0.7 bodies left to be mindful of the health pool of
RIP CRONG
Oh shit, he said the A-word
Thank you, Achillios. I know I could count on you.
signa+hog .. havent seen this the whole day
i thought sigma is balls since the nerf?
getting rolled ngl
rip Charge
can nero speak korean?
Happy can't carry
this just goes to show how good sigma was before the nerf
is there another match after this one or later today?
this is the last apac game
Chara pulling off some Reddit Lucio right there
boop
na matches will be 8 hours later
There'll be the APAC Winners Finals and Loser's Semi's next week
And then the day after will be Loser's Finals
Just remember - respawns are longer in overtime ๐
Why do I have a feeling a full hold will happen
na matches will be 8 hours later
@balmy wolf 8hrs later today or in general?
Charge pls
@balmy wolf 8hrs later today or in general?
@idle beacon Who fucking knows, they insist on listing match times only in PT ๐
lel
@idle beacon Who fucking knows, they insist on listing match times only in PT ๐
@upper niche 8 hours from now. in eu its today
9pm today on the OWL site. but dunno what region time that suppose to be
correction: its 7 hours
My point is it's the height of idiocy that OWL insist on listing matches in PT (and CST) when the teams are all based in Korea, which uses KST, an hour offset from CST, and there's teams based in London, Paris and China - rather than using UTC.
oh so it is 21.00 today. thx marbel
No? Match times are listed in your timezone?
@vagrant jacinth Not on all the video data and news articles.
It's not that deep mayn, it takes like 2 secs to convert
Americans will never understand what it's like to convert timezones
They think the whole PST and EST is conversion enough but it ain't
why convert timezones if owl does it for you
Just wait until you hit the weeks where they go from daylight savings to standard time.
if u arent using vpn, the site will ofc do it for you
I remember planning a trip to LA/Anaheim/Disneyland... except the trip was for the week after Daylight Savings started. Google kinda fucked all my planned times ๐
At the time it didn't have ny support for local timezone conversion etc.
What is the score
Seoul my baby
I'm so proud
Why is charge not playing Eileen in the playoffs btw
Don't get
Should have more synery
GOGOGO LONDON!
Pharah is such a good pick here
only dva can deal with the pharah, forced to pay attention to pharah and DM her shots
that just lets gesture have free rein over him hooks, because the dva is exhausted of her DM to peel for anyone hooked
they just gotta bank on EMP and pray profit doesnโt fuck em up
tobi could be jjonak's brother ๐
from the looks
That bitch long gone
@next mesa what bitch?
gg seoul
what is this rap song playing
I can't believe seoul won lmao
sounds like some lil uzi or something
gg seoul
@feral zodiac i second that!
Ty
apac bracket destroyed
And losing to dragons next round
even if that was a one-sided loss, I'd rather be here
https://twitter.com/ChiXiaoTu_OW/status/1302548938830962690?s=20
And then winning losers bracket
London got yeeted lmao
@vagrant jacinth i actually meant profit.. with gogogo london :>
Charge is fucked
Haha. Yes please.
Didn't win a single map against seoul
NYXL put up a good fight against shanghai
NYXL is for sure gonna beat the charge
I just think it'd be hilarious to see Washington knock Paris or Philly out.
It'll happen for sure
i can imagine justice beating paris
i haven't seen phili in ages. can't tell if justice would have it easy against them
wow dynasty showing up
Washington will definitely tear the losers bracket apart
decay just needs to integrate a little bit more with the team
they were so close to 3-0ing the shock
would've been a legendary match
It was choi's birthday, do tou really think shock was gonna lose?
Shock in the Losers Bracket, oh dear lord
I just finished watching the shock Washington match
Shock must be a little scared now
If Washington can take you to matchpoint in 2 maps
What would shanghai do
Granted Washington played great
Reign actually won it
Tbh
I kind of expected it
But eternal in the losers bracket
Washington about to roll them
Washington is either gonna crumpled up and die
Which seems unlikely
Or they will smash losers
Which seems likely
Bc after their loss Justice has rage not sadness so rip anyone in lower
dragons and seoul/nyxl for apac representatives
Pretty clean
At least for the last map
Seoul looks well practiced
What I have learnt is donโt pick Anubis
maybe charge was only good because of the meta
well yes double shield
also torb got buffed and hog got nerfed in the experimental
if that does end up going live
will owl use it
or is the current patch the one they're gonna use till the end of the season
it is unlikely they use it
and if they do, hog is dead
they remove his damage, and still keep his fire rate and ammo nerfs
he will be deader than he was before
I think the nerfs/buffs to hog torb were nice actually, can still one shot all 250hp heroes except Mei (janky hitbox) while also keeping the main tank role alive
This is it for owl, no new patches
You could one shot before though
Sure, better pellet pattern is good, but he still is essentially a worse version of previous hog
not necessarily if the one shot is more consistent now because of the shotgun pattern
I haven't tested it myself though it might actually be just consistently weaker
lower peak damage but technically higher consistent damage
Imagine justice do what shock did lul
Go unbeaten
Ez claps
But the previous nerfs are still in effect
So less ammo
And low fire rate
I got 250 tokens 
gotta get hyped for this game tonight
How does the losers bracket work
The teams that have been losing still have a chance?
frankie is wild LUL
seoul not even a bad take
frankie is more chill now
i like it
Washington arenโt going to win
Or even be in grand finals
they could i doubt they will be they have a chance
Kaicho
focused on his work of course
Is soe coming back in the near future or no
Ripp
paris is very likely to lose this first match
hot take: paris wins 3:0, shock is just not good this meta and thats why it was close
you say that like paris is good in this meta
saying shock is bad is always a hot take
no theyve been looking bad recently not just last match
you say that like paris is good in this meta
@real gyro we gonna see. i said its a hot take
i think philly is gonna roll na
i just think justice was playing better at this meta so imo paris is out
and philly and atlanta facing seoul and shanghai
its end of season not mid LUL
yummy
productions really did it to him
The Chinese government has just announced that due to people spamming the overwatch league chat they are giving Hong Kong independence
finally
imagine
what thats funny
best emotes LUL
the man makes no mistakes
Am I the only one as a souel fan not impressed by today Iโm worried that we didint look good enough to even beat the NYXL
FRANKIE!!!!!!!
has an actual brick LUL
frankie herself just said that soe is involved in the predictions
are you actually listening, adriel?
frankie looks soooo good. omg
why are people talking about politics in owl chat
very niceu shirt uber
im mad confused rn
they did?
it's owl chat, it never makes sense
dps anf flex sup diff
BQBIG
Puckett, da gawd.
well i guess i just assumed too much on the glads
they are by far the worst team left in playoffs
gg
and the shock did a 3-2 yesterday
glads what are are you doin
Mayhem coulda clapped valiant if they put bqb on reaper and yaki sombra
well they lost so maybe not
these are easy
literally the best part of dorado
yeah i didnt know the starcraft one but i guessed starcraft because it didnt sound like a middle earth kind of thing
first map wasnt too bad but this one they got clapped
like it looks more competitive but this one is just bad
Itโs cuz bqb reaper
And I imagine ping is bad when ur playing sombra in this insanely fast meta
oof kevster
sombra diff
Holy crap, it's Puckett
yeah he was up there for 2 trivia things
Ah, missed those
why is no one talking
because nyxl is the best team
im watching while playing P5 agian
ok
so my hand isnt near the keyboard
ye
and then the second bamboozle
outlaws outsmart gladiators
yaki jump
who won mvp
idk
it hasnt been announced yet
i have a feeling its fleta
yea
it well be announced during finals
is there going to be a different champion for na and apac
well i wouldnt mind choi/violet/alarm
at the same time i dont want phil to win
PAUSED
is there going to be 2 champions
ill be honest i just dont want a dps to get it LUL
im fine if florida, or guanzhou or shanghai people get it
no 1 champion
ok
yaki is only a rookie
and charge are not getting it
but at the same time i dont even think yaki/xzi are even qualified but whatever its a popularity contest
so the winners from na and apac are going to play each other in the finals??
no
prob not
so then how will they determine one champ
top 2 from na and APAC play eachother
O
well its 1st NA vs 2nd APAC and reverse then its 2x elim
ye
most likely it will be the dragons
there the most dominant team right now
they lost 3
oh
but to say there isnt a chance someone else can win is dumb
im hoping at least paris will
i hope philly gets 2nd it would be funny
for the meme of philly never winning
oh ok
even though there always so close
paris is bad so they wont make it to the loser bracket finals
yeah philly is always close to winner but never does
there pretty good though
loses to reign PepeLaugh
ikr
With the way NA is going, we could easily end up with ATL and Justice being the finalists lol...
They're in losers bracket still though
O
i mean i kinda want justice/Atl to win the finals because it would be the funniest meme ever
ikr
same so closee
no justice was overrated
tru
at the start of the season everyone thought they were gonna be amazing
wow that pulse
but now
Justice could easily breeze through loser bracket at the moment
That pulse bomb stick was CLEAN
yeah now they are good to ok but thats the underdog kinda thing
yeahs
Their matches are most likely Paris, then ATL, then Philly or Shock
BIRDING
OH MY GOD
nasty 2 tap
birderang going hard carry
see glads arent bad
bqb stands for broken q button
there about to lose 3-0
Good hack
glads 0-3
lololollololololololololo9lololol
Glads look ok on the Zarya/Hog, but bad on the dive
ytewa
yup
they didnt play well tbh
glads got 3-0'd by fusion and as a fusion fan i can admit they played well
ok thats good
but they look bad rn
they just seem to crumble at the end
phli can defeat sf but not glad?
Fate zarya lol
what?
they got 3'0d
as in they lost
lol
glads lost
this is losers bracket round
drawable
these stallers are annoying just lose dont go in 1 by 1
this is very drawable
ikr
yup drawable
these stallers are annoying just lose dont go in 1 by 1
@gloomy vector IKR
tbh hoping for a draw
nyxl and shanghai got a draw on map 2
ye
i want to get rid of this game
Going in 1 by 1 still gives the chance of a clutch, it's happened before. Never give up
they trying to go cheeky teleporter
like i understand if you go in as a team like a 5v6 with 1 staller on point but it wasnt even that
lol
i want to get rid of this game
@unkempt gale but it doesnt matter if they draw
cheeky teleport
it does matter if they draw it gives glads more chances to win
but if they win its gonna take longer with a draw
half of their time is already gone
like mayhem has this in the bag but glads do have a chance
rolled
Florida dps have cluthced this so hard
Yaki and BQB literally killed everyone while their team died
nvm its a draw
BQB
frick 2cp
whats his final blows per 10now
ywah this is a draw now i hope 2 wins for glads then i dont care who wins after that
Bqb top 5 hitscan yep
@fierce narwhal
thx
np
i just wanted to check something
Bqb turning shit into bbq
lol
is a fish
carpe
who is it
carpe
yay
ez
ezez
i didnt even look at the facts im just good at guess that pokimon
guess that pokemon player
@real gyro
what
no but really i got it off of the outline it looked like him
drawskaya

Washington is about to become the first team to play OWL matches on four straight days.
178
M O T H N E R V O U S
thats tuff
@unkempt gale If Glads win next 2 it goes to map 6 control
i would hate to play 2 days in a row i couldnt do 4
Yes
map 7
Games can theoretically go to map 8

If Hybrid, assult and Escort all draw
I mean it wont happen, but its possible. Map 7 has happened before
Today is the one year anniversary of Atlanta v Shock
Today is the one year anniversary of Atlanta v Shock
@tropic herald what was so important about atl v shock
ATL were the team to beat shock in round 1 of playoffs last year
^
lulw
Then Shock literally won every single map after that, through the loser brackets, to win everything
wow
4-0 swept the titans 
ive saw all the playoffs
When shock lose, they tend to get super motivated
but in regular season ive only watched Outlaws games and stuff
in that 1:49 of defense to end Volskaya, @BQB_kr had 7 final blows
the q really do stand for "qlutch" https://t.co/HV41qZkwV5
if i had to guess, mayhem clutches up and wins 3-0, then washington wins against paris 3-1, then fusion sweeps valiant, then atlanta loses 3-1 to shock.
Damn
like specific matchs not like this year and watch every match
I feel sorry for your mental if you've only watched Outlaws games this year ๐
Ah

i think this is the 4th time they played this and not finished the video
^
They dont have a ton of filler content lol
Lemon cookie meta
Either way
Last pause was Kevster, who is in EU
Korea to EU isnโt as bad as EU to West coast unless Iโm mistaken
EU to West beats EU to Korea
and the HOU one that happened not too long ago was because they were doing work on the building even though the Outlaws said they were playing a game
Internet issues can happen anywhere. Lots of outages lately have been the Blizzard servers disconnecting people too
NA be like
oh yeah that match wasnt too long ago when the blizz server got bop ed
Okay but
A majority of pauses could just never have existed due to being on Korean internet
most of the pauses happen because the ping is super high
Apac gets quite lot of pauses too
like they arent playing together
Imagine if all 20 teams just played in Internet cafes in Korea
or on lan
You could even have LANs in Korea
Pauses happen all the time. Remember all the homestands
Those were technical ones
you could use lan every where wdym
Still a pause, they can occur from anything. Fires, Internet, Unkoe throwing his mouse at AKM
lol
this is so boring
Still a pause, they can occur from anything. Fires, Internet, Unkoe throwing his mouse at AKM
@weak bolt wait what, did that actually happen
yeah
Unkoe did have a long pause Bc of mouse issues
There was a one hour pause for an Unkoe mouse issue I think, but wasn't because he threw it lol
I think Dallas homestand had a similar pause for a power outage too? Wasn't that like an hour
yeah there was
wow
DPEI probably pulled out the LAG router so he could give them a 20 min pep talk
i want cookies
By sounds of it, Super gave the motivation yesterday
ooo soldier
???
and sigma
DEFENSE GENJI?
and bap
Genji? I guess the pause was LAG sending through a $$$ throwing transfer
soldier sig and bap????
sigma is usable but in owl idk
oh theyre switching
idk
Never believe an attackers comp until they've been out of spawn for like 20s
imagine playing 76
ohhh ok
Never believe an attackers comp until they've been out of spawn for like 20s
@weak bolt thanks
that makes sense
so they do that to trick the defense?
No, they just meme to jebait people
Somewhere, Sparkle is running to his coaches going "Look, Genji works!"
lul
waow
they just won with genji...
Glads forced hog Zarya on dorado second how do you win
Gladiators just couldnt contest highground, was never going to end well
Oh yes.
Hog Dva is a really weird comp
Sick stats they showed for BQB. 0 for everything
ggs
That was coupon code free.
Yaki has just farmed blade on dva/hog
florida saw yesterday and said fuck long days
OGE to Justice, let me have it
While we're waiting for the Glads power/internet to come back, Gangnamjin suddenly stood up
Me: Bathroom?
GNJ: [Flopping down onto a beanbag] No, condition maintenance!
BQB: Oh in that case- [flops onto another beanbag]
Yaki: Scoot over, hyung! [Flops next to GNJ]
#BitsOfMay...
Florida so wholesome with Swingchip giving the inside info

like these are ez because of the outlines
crong
bruh
o
smurf LUL
nvm
that one isnt even hard
shut
last one is dumb
Its pikachu
@unkempt gale Looks like you got that one... Crong...
Why is Puckett there?
Also they just cut off swing and custa in the middle of talking lmao
oooh this match will be interesting
yes
why tf is xzi not playing
Can soon play Sombra
1 man emp
And sparkle Pharah?
i'm like, 50/50 on who i want to win here
4-0
whod they verse
glads
gladiators?
Not 4-0
alr
2cp draw
The rest mayhem won
wow
last map wasnt close
Was knocking out Paris would be hilarious :)
they won with 3 mins
decayyyy
Why don't they mirror
Soon plays Sombra, then Sparkle Pharah
washington is gonna win the ult fight too
I see "pocket the fuck out of decay" is still doing well
oh that beat was not needed
yep
3
Is Washington winning
Still on map 1
yea
Ok
theyre winning but its really close
yea wj has emp
and grav
the two best ults in the game
they got this
omg
Ttuba literally just killed 6
paris =bad
Man
TTUBA JUST GOT A 6K
BIG

Remember when they said ttuba was dogshit?
Stitch and ttuba have fucking stepped up lately
TTUBA GOD DAMN
TTUBA LITERALLY JSUT KILELD THE ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM
TTUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
well ttuba was dogshit tbf besides on genji
Holy shit ttuba
But he has improved so much
Also
fire roar bitches
No roar=win
THATS CRAZY
ttuba stronk
Ttuba was bad on heroes he didn't play normally. But on projectile heroes/Sombra he looks pretty damn good
As his coaches said, he was working hard behind the scenes
No roar=win
@earnest leaf told u lul
Seeds are growing into something


