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[quartz cairn]

forget sparkle

xzi is the mvp now

[clear crane]

xzi been here since day 1 this year 🙂

[quartz cairn]

u know what we need

Bronze league

when OWL isnt on they should show us bronze scrims

so we have entertainment

[weak bolt]

Thats what Houston vs Boston is

[gloomy vector]

ok edison

[quartz cairn]

ah yes

i forgot

[digital cloud]

y'all see that?

[quartz cairn]

did you see

the ashe

[digital cloud]

na production lol

[quartz cairn]

or am i blind

[weak bolt]

they keep flashing random scenes from past maps yeah

[quartz cairn]

that scared me LOL

i havent been watching alot

[weak bolt]

They did one earlier from boston match

[gloomy vector]

yeah it was the match earlier today

[quartz cairn]

cause im doing hw at the same time

[sleek tapir]

Time is breaking, we’re about to be transported back to Shock v Justice Gibralter

[quartz cairn]

i just finished and my eyes hurt

[weak bolt]

NA is weird, we've got this rush style meta, the full dive meta, the zarya/hog meta, and the sombra/reaper meta 😐

[clear crane]

XZI MVP

[quartz cairn]

and of course

the voice comms

that EU wishes they had

Erester

rip

[sleek tapir]

Honestly though having a bunch of possible comps is 100% ideal.

[clear crane]

WHAT A COMBO

[quartz cairn]

HUGE

[sleek tapir]

Hanbin my god

[digital cloud]

nice combo

[sleek tapir]

I love that boy

[weak bolt]

That was 100% Benbest, not Hanbin lol

[sleek tapir]

Fair

[balmy wolf]

yea no that was setup perfectly

erester was dead so they were fucked

[autumn basalt]

huge brain plays

[quartz cairn]

i feel like

erester is not ok

is he uncomfortable on mei? im pretty sure he plays her every so often?

[clear crane]

hes supposed to be a good mei

hes just getting fucked by xzi and sparkle constantly

and hes fucking over gator lol

[unkempt gale]

dude we're abt to get like 40 tokens just from na today

[quartz cairn]

i know right

i just leave it on

and i got like 20 tokens yesterday

itll probs be like 45 today

those all star skins arent looking so impossible now 👀

Lmao

[weak bolt]

Erster trying to get himself a ticket to Washington

[clear crane]

oof

feelsbad....

[quartz cairn]

erester fucking on his way to contenders

[next mesa]

ark heartbroken

good for shock for reverse sweep

[clear crane]

Justice can def run through the lower brackets tho

based on their play

[weak bolt]

https://twitter.com/LogixOW/status/1302409540735041536

Andreas Berghmans (@LogixOW)

millionaire uses game 5 as a means to get a free pair of sneakers

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Didn't see that before, omg lol

[next mesa]

wait it's 1-1 ?

nice nice

why are these matches so good

[clear crane]

free stuff is always better feeling

den stuff u had to buy

[quartz cairn]

indeed

[clear crane]

wtf is Boosen

[balmy wolf]

so did shock just run zen dive and won?

[clear crane]

nah

Super Hog

[weak bolt]

They ran Ashe/Tracer/Zen and did work

[balmy wolf]

been seeing zen in apac a bit

more damage instead of more healing

[weak bolt]

yeah, Jjanu started melting on hog

[balmy wolf]

does bubble remove discord?

either way zen dive is just way more burst heavy than sombra/reaper

[weak bolt]

Believe so, but its a waste of bubble

Wait, Gator was booped in that shatter

He was mid air because of FDGod

[digital cloud]

NO DON'T

[weak bolt]

Both teams just changed 1/2 their roster lol

[digital cloud]

NOT POKPO AND SHARP

[weak bolt]

Nosmite vs Pokpo, Battle of the feeds

[true hound]

throwsmite is back widepeepoHappy

[supple prism]

the hell fdgod

[digital cloud]

sharp good?

pokpo turbo int

[balmy wolf]

wonder if were gonna get a sombra nerf once the season is over

[next mesa]

why

I think she's just strong in this meta because double offtank

[balmy wolf]

uhhh sure

shes been meta for a while now

[weak bolt]

I think Sombra is ok, she's just a bit more enabled by lack of shields now

If shields come back a bit, she loses power from that

[quartz cairn]

shes just kind of an EMP bot imo

[next mesa]

just because she's meta doesn't mean she needs to be nerfed

[quartz cairn]

her EMP basically shuts down fights if it catches 3+ ppl

[balmy wolf]

expect sombra was still a strong pick even in DS

[tropic herald]

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Crusty (@ShockCrusty)

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[weak bolt]

yea but EMPs were a lot harder to get vs double shield, so it was less powerful

She's also kinda trash outside of OWL, so if you nerf her more, may as well remove her from game

[next mesa]

EMP is always going to be powerful

It's literally like 90% of the reason why you pick sombra

in the first place

[balmy wolf]

too powerful

[next mesa]

nah

never had a problem with it before why is it suddenly too powerful

[weak bolt]

Only thing I could see would be increasing ult charge required for it if shields stay less popular

[balmy wolf]

thats what i was thinking

[little island]

who is sharp

[weak bolt]

I think its just a symptom of the 0 shield metas at the moment

Lots of big beefy tanks to charge off

[balmy wolf]

in rank it doesnt mean much since snipers are broken in rank

[weak bolt]

This sombra/reaper meta is kinda dull

[balmy wolf]

probs cuz it resembles goats

flowchart watch

[next mesa]

it's dull?

damn

I don't find it dull at all

although I would prefer ana over moira or something

[weak bolt]

Its just W + Mouse 1, and then whoever gets emp first wins. Coal every fight

[balmy wolf]

comps like these are all about ult usage

[next mesa]

yeah don't find it dull

way more fun than double shield lol

[balmy wolf]

farm ults then go in

[weak bolt]

Nothing really flashy about it, at least in goats you got big shatters etc

but yeah double shield was pretty dull too, especially mei/reaper version

[gloomy vector]

omg

paris = bad

[balmy wolf]

map 5 come on

more tokens plz

[gloomy vector]

but really it is weird that teams i didnt give much credit are playing well

[weak bolt]

Paris without an OP hero to carry them, back to being average at best

[supple prism]

the meta changing so close to the finals seem to have made it hard for teams to prepare for it

[balmy wolf]

yea esports do this all the time really

[gloomy vector]

well they had like 1-2 weeks to figure something out

[balmy wolf]

and guess what no one has really figure it out

[weak bolt]

yeah not a fan of meta changing so soon to playoffs personally, but its nothing new

[balmy wolf]

my problem with it is buffing hog

[gloomy vector]

true

[balmy wolf]

since he such a horribly designed hero

[weak bolt]

Some teams are always gonna benefit, see Summer Showdown for Paris

[gloomy vector]

i just hate how shields are not there so the buffed hog gets even more shield break'

[weak bolt]

Hog has been nerfed again tbf, but it's just not in owl

[balmy wolf]

the nerf to hog probs wont change in rank

[gloomy vector]

yeah but i want some shielding back

[weak bolt]

Shielding may return a bit with the overall damage nerfs coming

[gloomy vector]

like 900 isnt even that bad for sigma they already nerfed his 1 hit squishy combo

[next mesa]

why not soon on sombra though

[gloomy vector]

i guess sparkle has the better one idk

omg that was rough

ok so ez map 5

[raw ermine]

@little island sharp is a european Hitscan DPS originally from team envy

[opaque ginkgo]

Damn sharp looking Sharp

[fading nimbus]

sry im new but do the NA champs end up playingn against APAC champs or is it all seperate?

[quartz cairn]

bruh

i wanna go to sleep

but i need dem tokens

[gloomy vector]

#1 na plays #2 APAC and same with the reverse

[tawdry hamlet]

is this the 3rd 2-2 today?

[gloomy vector]

well map 5

[tawdry hamlet]

wtf bruh

[gloomy vector]

map 5 isnt uncommon

[supple prism]

4th 3-2 technically

[gloomy vector]

i just saw a reverse sweep comment in chat

it wouldnt apply in this scenario

because it was back and forth

[digital cloud]

true

also, gg Atlanta

you had a chance

and you blew it

again

[gloomy vector]

i mean they won map 1 so they can do it again

[rare magnet]

does eternal have zero sponsors

[sullen berry]

oui

they're probably looking for the right one that fits their local market

[tropic herald]

All 4 games were super intense

Wow

[gloomy vector]

yeah this years playoffs have been good

[next mesa]

I just hope the finals aren't completely one sided

even though it probably will

[gloomy vector]

i didnt like last years it was boring at most matches imo

yeah finals really might be snoozers

[digital cloud]

probably most diverse meta though

so that is good

[next mesa]

might just be dive ngl

[gloomy vector]

i hope it isnt drive but it prob will

[raw ermine]

So pissed WJ got reverse swept

[next mesa]

lol

[gloomy vector]

like i cant see paris/shock making it to finals

[weak bolt]

Question is, who would beat Shock to finals?

[quartz cairn]

how did sparkle fall

i thought he was gonna translocate onto point ._.

[supple prism]

fusion or dragons. shock is looking iffy

[next mesa]

Fusion looks better

[gloomy vector]

philly

[next mesa]

in na

[weak bolt]

2 NA teams go to finals though

[gloomy vector]

i can see VAL too

[next mesa]

I think shock will go to finals anyway but loser bracket

[supple prism]

if justice doesnt bring it back

[gloomy vector]

if they go 2nd then we get dragon v shock instantly and basically see the possible finals

[weak bolt]

Shock would have to lose to Fusion and then also probably Justice

[digital cloud]

pokpo looking very improved

[next mesa]

I think shock will lose to fusion, beat justice in loser bracket finals

and then will get swept by dragons first round in finals bracket

[gloomy vector]

i mean they could lose to VAL/Justice

[next mesa]

I think it's unlikely because

crusty

but we'll see

[supple prism]

its hard to judge dragons as well

[next mesa]

true

haven't seen them play yet

[weak bolt]

I guess the question is how Shock play vs Sombra/Reaper dive. We've only seen then vs Zarya/Hog

[next mesa]

but I see no reason for them to try hog

[supple prism]

and they are playing against just lesser teams

[gloomy vector]

well dragons has only gotten "ez" opponents

[next mesa]

I wouldn't say any of the apac teams are easy

[gloomy vector]

well i mean they only played them

EZ was just because they only played like 6 teams

[sullen berry]

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[digital cloud]

PARIS

LOL

[quartz cairn]

rip

[gloomy vector]

LUL

[next mesa]

Doesn't mean they are easy though

[sullen berry]

loser's bracket run here we go

[next mesa]

like

idk

[gloomy vector]

Paris BAD

[quartz cairn]

FDgod gone

[next mesa]

don't see nyxl being bad

[weak bolt]

Paris are going out to Justice surely

[next mesa]

bruh fdgod

actually big throw

[supple prism]

and I dont think eternal looks particularly great

[sullen berry]

not in this meta

[digital cloud]

this day has been

[sullen berry]

sp9rkl3 has never looked this uncomfortable before

[digital cloud]

quite interesting

[gloomy vector]

EZ was just the word i used it was like when i used weakest earlier im not try to say theyre bad its just the word i used

[next mesa]

they should have put soon on sombra and nico on reaper

[weak bolt]

Sparkle has only played like 2 heroes before now, and neither of those are really meta now

[next mesa]

imo

[severe tusk]

wat TaC

[supple prism]

it just looks like dragons are in a league of their own against the other asia teams

[balmy wolf]

oof paris

[next mesa]

yes

Which just shows how strong they are

[gloomy vector]

yeah chpgmr said it better than i did

thats what i meant but i used the word ez

[next mesa]

because imo I don't think the other asia teams are any weaker than high tier na teams

[earnest leaf]

Seeing as to how sombra seems pretty prevalant with dive

[next mesa]

except like maybe london but idk

[balmy wolf]

dont know why they ran a projectile player on sombra

[weak bolt]

Dragons advantage is this meta looks like what they've been playing fantastically all year

[balmy wolf]

double hitscan too stronk

[earnest leaf]

I'm like 80% sure shd takes the grand finals

[next mesa]

yeah really should have put soon on sombra imo

[supple prism]

its fusion or dragons

[next mesa]

yeah

same

[supple prism]

unless shock is just fucking around

idk

[next mesa]

althoug hI wouldn't be surprised if

It was an apac vs apac finals

[gloomy vector]

i hope paris gets knocked out so the paris fan boys will be a little more silent

[next mesa]

rude

[earnest leaf]

Since shock just doesn't look great on sombra comps

Granted

We only saw them play it today vs hog zarya and not in the mirror

But philly looks really strong with it

[next mesa]

Shock def is at a disadvantage

[gloomy vector]

well philly is pretty good but they will get 2nd and ill laugh

[earnest leaf]

So I don't think shock would have a fun time mirroring it vs philly

[next mesa]

heesu sombra better

[weak bolt]

NA regional finals could be fun. If SHD are #2 seed in APAC, do you throw to ensure you're #2 seed in NA to avoid them 😄

[earnest leaf]

yea heesu is a nasty sombra

[next mesa]

I think fusion will sweep valiant

[supple prism]

yes

[gloomy vector]

justice wins that

[weak bolt]

Fusion and Valiant have been scrim partners this week, they'll be prepared for each other. Could eb close

[gloomy vector]

i think the fusion match will be closest match tomorrow

[next mesa]

no way dragons get anything but first

in apac

[supple prism]

mayhem beat glad?

[next mesa]

watch nyxl just sweep dragons tmrw pepelaugh

[severe tusk]

idk tho, apac is so unpredictable

who knows, playoff seoul might topple them? idk really, but it's a possibility

[earnest leaf]

shd giga booms and gets knocked out of the playoffs

[gloomy vector]

i will laugh so hard if ny wins

[weak bolt]

I could see Charge or Seoul sneaking off a win vs SHD

[earnest leaf]

Wait does apac have double elim?

[next mesa]

yes

[dark hedge]

huh reign actually beat paris

[supple prism]

it was close

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/dogmanow/status/1302443055690248193?s=21

Dogman (@DogmanOW)

JUST A SCRIMMMMMM

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Lol

[gloomy vector]

i feel like in apac reagion it doesnt matter if you get 1st or 2nd this year

[tropic herald]

So what are the loser bracket matches?

[dark hedge]

did paris run any genji or doom

[supple prism]

a losers bracket Battle for LA?

[weak bolt]

Mayhem vs LAG, and Justice vs Paris

[tropic herald]

Mayhem Justice win

[dark hedge]

wait mayhem and glads lost?

[next mesa]

yes

[digital cloud]

and Shock almost did lol

[next mesa]

fusion actually looking sexy

[weak bolt]

Glads lost to Fusion, and Mayhem lost to LAV

[digital cloud]

Shock was so fucking close to losing

[tawdry hamlet]

why are the only na teams with a chance against shanghai folding to worse na teams

[dark hedge]

ohh that makes sense

[tawdry hamlet]

wtf

[next mesa]

Fusion #1 in NA

[gloomy vector]

i mean glads can win but i wouldnt be surprised because mayhem isnt that good

[next mesa]

as of right now

[dark hedge]

mayhems pretty good

[digital cloud]

Or Atlanta

[tawdry hamlet]

Fusion are my only hope against apac

[digital cloud]

or Valiant

[next mesa]

I don't think anyone in NA stands a chance against dragons in a dive sombra meta

[tawdry hamlet]

apac too good

[next mesa]

like lowkey

yeah

They don't have shit teams like boston

[tawdry hamlet]

idk why tf all the top na teams been folding today

[dark hedge]

isnt london shit

[balmy wolf]

very

[supple prism]

lol reign ended their 5 match losing streak

[next mesa]

or vancouver or defiant

[balmy wolf]

pavane coaching them lol

[next mesa]

to farm their wins

[earnest leaf]

Apac doesn't have the giga shit teams

[tawdry hamlet]

like houston

[next mesa]

London is pretty shit but they are def not

yeah

giga shit

[gloomy vector]

i mean i believe these standings would have changed if covid wasnt a thing and the people werent restricted by region

[earnest leaf]

but seoul before they were allowed to farm london had pretty much the same record as the outlaws

[next mesa]

London was actually pretty good like may melee

ok not false

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah so was paris

[next mesa]

seoul is so trash

[tawdry hamlet]

lmaoo

[next mesa]

Paris wasn't

[supple prism]

all the apac teams look close to each other except for dragons

[weak bolt]

Seoul can be trash, or they can be amazing. They are so inconsistant

[tawdry hamlet]

idk how tf paris won summer showdown man, still blows me away seeing how they have performed since

genji really helped them lmao

[weak bolt]

Paris won summer showdown because of OP Genji patch

[next mesa]

if seoul keeps it up im lowkey picking them second in apac but that's just me rambling

[tawdry hamlet]

justice almost beat shock because op hog patch

[next mesa]

as a clownass seoul fan

hm

[weak bolt]

Shock played bad today in maps 1 and 2 tbf

[tawdry hamlet]

but nah justice played really good

yeah

[next mesa]

yeah

[gloomy vector]

yeah shock havent played too well for a while now

[next mesa]

decay zarya actually insane

[clear crane]

im so sad 😦

[weak bolt]

Rascal sombra was not a good play for them

[gloomy vector]

they were good at double shield

[next mesa]

except questionable grav

s

[clear crane]

it was a good season 😦

[next mesa]

Who do they have for sombra

shock

[tawdry hamlet]

shock has not been playing good since summer showdown tbf

[weak bolt]

No one really

[next mesa]

like they don't really got a really good sombra player

[tawdry hamlet]

like they played good enough

but not shock level

[weak bolt]

They're going to have to go for non sombra comps

[gloomy vector]

shock have rascal Omegalul

[next mesa]

ANS and Rascal are not like

heesu level

yeah

I rather they just run sniper tracer

[tawdry hamlet]

I think fusion are really the only hope at this point otherwise I foresee shanghai sweeping

[next mesa]

With ans and striker

tbh

[earnest leaf]

I wonder if ans widow/ashe and striker tracer with the ana zen would do much vs a sombra dive comp

Probably not though

[next mesa]

yeah yeah

[weak bolt]

Shock play so fast and aggressive though they may be able to work round sombra comps

[earnest leaf]

dive would hard devour the backline

[gloomy vector]

yeah i like the hitscan and tracer combo more

[balmy wolf]

Shanghai cant be stopped imo

Kinda like shock last year

[next mesa]

just play their strength

[gloomy vector]

so ans and striker

[weak bolt]

If Viol2t can farm Trans quickly, they can counter quite a lot of EMPs

[tawdry hamlet]

bro mcflurry is a sick name for the meicree combo

I stan mcflurry

[next mesa]

you know

in china they call dva hog beauty and the beast

[supple prism]

torb mei is freezerburn

[next mesa]

you mean frozencoom

[autumn basalt]

how did atl win

[supple prism]

by eternal sucking

[next mesa]

you know they were playing dive a bit more than hog compositions

[weak bolt]

I can see Shock giving Philly a close game honestly. They have to beat ATL tomorrow, then they have 4 or 5 days to prepare. Shock will do the grind

[next mesa]

philly is up against

valiant though

right

[weak bolt]

yeah

[next mesa]

who has to beat ATL

wait shock

[weak bolt]

Shock do

[next mesa]

im big dumb

I unconsciously put shock in loser bracket

[gloomy vector]

i do feel like the VAL and Philly match will be closer than people think

[next mesa]

either shock or philly will lose and then win loser bracket

I think

ok maybe

but I see philly sweeping them

ngl

[weak bolt]

I think Philly are beatable honestly. Gladiators match was close today, even if a 3-0

[next mesa]

they just have that sombra diff

[weak bolt]

Are any of these matches bo7 or at they all bo5?

[next mesa]

finals

bo7

grand finals

other than that

bo5

[gloomy vector]

yeah but GF might be a 4-0 sweep

[next mesa]

fr

I think the 2 regions haven't played eachother for so long their skill gap has increased

[weak bolt]

Shock will be hyped for a match vs Philly if they get it. They'll be so motivated

[earnest leaf]

Watch one region just be massively better than the other lmao

[next mesa]

yeah

That's what I think

and turns out london is better than shock

[earnest leaf]

inb4 shd are secretly only glads level

[next mesa]

yes

or vice versa

[weak bolt]

NA are gonna get fucked either way, they're going to have to go to Korea and take a 2 week Quarantine period too

[gloomy vector]

i feel like the NA region has better competition because its just more and closer games but idk

[next mesa]

I don't think the quarantine is much of a problem

It's chill

[supple prism]

not anymore

[weak bolt]

Stuck in a hotel room for 2 weeks? Can impact your mental

[supple prism]

was at first

[next mesa]

you're in a hotel room

[gloomy vector]

like the apac region looks more onesided

[next mesa]

You are always scrimming anyway

You can be together I think

the team can be

[weak bolt]

For a team like Shock that are usually all together every day

[next mesa]

as long as you go in together

[balmy wolf]

no lol you're by youself in isolation

[next mesa]

the people that are in the same flight

[weak bolt]

Pretty sure they have to all stay separate

[spice imp]

Ah that Paris game really took it out of me

[earnest leaf]

Although that's another interesting bit

[weak bolt]

They're also going to have to adjust to timezones and such

[earnest leaf]

The NA teams will have a lot of time to scrim vs apac teams

[next mesa]

timezones don't need 2 weeks to adjust

[earnest leaf]

And practice their comps and refine them

[next mesa]

yes

while apac never scrims with na teams

[weak bolt]

Who do you scrim though?

Korean contender teams?

[next mesa]

apac contenders

or even

The apac teams that have been eliminated

[earnest leaf]

can they not scrim eachother

[next mesa]

for example london/spark/chengdu

[earnest leaf]

like philly/shock scrimming charge/shd

[weak bolt]

I doubt those apac teams will be interested. Once eliminated they'll be taking breaks

[next mesa]

I guess

[sullen berry]

TIL it's 4am in EU time

thank you Frankie

[weak bolt]

4:27am EU time here

[gloomy vector]

well i think its gonna be worst for grand finals Becuase its a good time for me but its better for Asia

[next mesa]

I won't watch the finals live

it will be at like 4am or something

[sullen berry]

frankie has another 3 weeks to really gel in the buildup to the grandfinals in KR

[weak bolt]

Grand finals are great for EU, they start at 2pm on a Saturday

[gloomy vector]

i will it w=is like 8 am for me

[next mesa]

oh dang

[sullen berry]

the lack of commitment during APAC is totally understandable

I've slept during all 3 days of APAC

I just woke up to Atlanta leading 1-0

[earnest leaf]

Yea i'm gonna have to pull an all nighter for the grand finals

[sullen berry]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

iirc it takes place at like 4Am est right?

so 3am my time

[sullen berry]

tons of people would give up their work day in advance, take sick leave - whatever to have the whole day to watch

[weak bolt]

Just like being an EU watcher for a standard week 😄

[gloomy vector]

im in a good time but its gonna such because as soon as i wake up the first match starts

[sullen berry]

It's going to be super late and cut though to 3am

bet

[gloomy vector]

i think the latest it gets for me is like 1pm ish

[next mesa]

what day is it

[balmy wolf]

Imagine washington winning

bruh

[gloomy vector]

ok ill be back for tomorrow matches

[earnest leaf]

saturday

[next mesa]

4am saturday?

alright cool

[balmy wolf]

4am today

[next mesa]

could stay all night

[balmy wolf]

I mean its about 6 hours

Just take a nap set a timer

[weak bolt]

Grand grand finals are Saturday 4am US time yeah. Prior matches are the Thurs/Fri

[sullen berry]

that's some chonky streaky bacon

[gloomy vector]

actually thick cut bacon in the oven is good

[balmy wolf]

That was like beef jerky

[sullen berry]

???

oh yeah it probably was

[balmy wolf]

Smile

[sullen berry]

I didn't watch this, what's going on in this video

[balmy wolf]

Hes getting head from soe

[weak bolt]

I wasnt watching, and now all I see is YT spamming Puckett

what is going on lol

[sullen berry]

stream ended instead of like 30s of highlights today

just this frozen shot of puckett

[weak bolt]

I'm guessing we get Puckett as a host for next weekend or grand finals then

[balmy wolf]

or just puckett smile

[weak bolt]

They've sent him a background (or photoshopped one) so guessing he's involved somehow

[balmy wolf]

Thats a cheerful man

[crisp prairie]

"owl meta totally isn't gonna be hog"

shock runs hog/zarya

[unkempt gale]

"Hog could fucking fly and he wouldn't be meta."

this aged amazingly

[tropic herald]

I bet Smurf got tilted mid match

[unkempt gale]

im still pissed man

i wanted that upset REALLY badly

[tropic herald]

Playing Winston into Hog Zarya you gotta play damn near perfect

[unkempt gale]

supers tweet was hilarious

no cap

[tropic herald]

I swear if I wake up to a Shanghai loss

[earnest leaf]

i'm gonna wake up thinking they will lose

but in reality it's just gonna be 3-0 shd ez

[sullen berry]

yeah but let's be honest

charge meta shift is kinda hard to predict

and moon's coaching is 🔥

you'd have to be pretty brave to not only have charge win the top 2 seeds

but seeing shanghai eliminated in what could only be

the greatest choke of all time if it happns

worse by winrate % in the regular season than NYXL season 1 or VAN season 2

[tropic herald]

My standards are so high for Shanghai that the only way I see them not getting first is because they lost 3-4 in the finals

[sullen berry]

my standards for seoul went up a notch

their deep roster is what leads and finishes this team during the playoffs

and I wouldn't give up on a charge loser's run - which I think will favour NYXL more

[tropic herald]

When I first saw Creative was in I was confused

But then I saw he fits his name

[next mesa]

Fearless' turn

He will make hog zarya his bitch

[viral veldt]

What happened last match I fell asleep?

[sullen berry]

last match?

Back and forth with Atlanta, Paris got taken down to map 5 and are sitting chill in the loser's bracket

[balmy wolf]

Why do I feel like washingtons gonna go to the finals with philly

[sullen berry]

Because it can happen

[upper niche]

I was actually preparing myself for the possibility of Shock getting knocked out and not making it to Korea!

[narrow heron]

shock has been looking super vulnerable lately; their 0-3 with fusion, their map 5 with atlanta, and now their map 5 with washington

meanwhile, fusion’s been looking real solid these past few weeks besides their countdown cup loss

[tawdry hamlet]

I ma excited to watch New York get shit on

[feral zodiac]

Did atlanta win?

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes

[feral zodiac]

How tf

[ebon aurora]

I think that's because Shock don't have a top tier Sombra player unlike Fusion, SHD etc @narrow heron

[feral zodiac]

What was the score

[ebon aurora]

and Sombra is insane in this meta

3-2 Reign @feral zodiac

[feral zodiac]

Damn

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah really disappointing from Paris

Considering vancouver beat reign and reign are an inconsistent barely mediocre mid team

And Paris literally best shock like 3 weeks ago

[edgy tinsel]

And Paris literally best shock like 3 weeks ago
@tawdry hamlet more like 3 months ago

[nova wadi]

why doesnt the site work reee

[tawdry hamlet]

Imma be real, I lost track of time, has it seriously been that long

Damn

[balmy wolf]

How do I watch the league livestreams in the Overwatch League app? I can't find any livestream there. Where can I watch the current livestream in the app?

[edgy tinsel]

yep

[tawdry hamlet]

This is a bruh moment

[edgy tinsel]

they beat shock in june

[severe swallow]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM BACK FROM THE DEAD BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

[tawdry hamlet]

Shanghai bouts stomp

[edgy tinsel]

who?

[severe swallow]

Is the stream even up?

[tawdry hamlet]

How come all overwatch pros are so cute like actually unironically not even memeing

[severe swallow]

I can't get to it lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

Not on mobile app yet

[edgy tinsel]

not all

Shockwave is tho

[tawdry hamlet]

Diya 😍

And uhh, logix low-key like not bringing up weight because it's rude lmao but he kind of cute in like a wholesome way idk man

Lmao

[balmy wolf]

So when I watch the livestreams via the app I also get the tokens?

[tawdry hamlet]

Yessir

[balmy wolf]

Ah okay thx!

[severe swallow]

NEVER DOUBT FLETA

HOLY SHIT

[raw summit]

mano is so good 😍

this game is so insane

[tidal ridge]

what is a player coach

[severe swallow]

THIS

THIS IS WHY I GO FOR SHANGHAI

[feral zodiac]

Holy shit

Can we nerf Shanghai's clutch ability pls

[severe swallow]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[jaunty pecan]

watch them lose now thatd be sad

[feral zodiac]

Did u see how dominant they were

[balmy wolf]

I mean these arer my two favorite temas

The whole map but the last was very close

[severe swallow]

My top two are Hangzhou and Shanghai

[jaunty pecan]

boston kinda rolled at first too recently tho

and then they failed horribly

[feral zodiac]

Cheetah

[jaunty pecan]

wouldnt be too sure

[feral zodiac]

Are u comparing

Boston

And shanghai

[jaunty pecan]

dude have you seen the boston match

[feral zodiac]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

Boston ar eno where close to shanghai

[jaunty pecan]

well i know

[balmy wolf]

Wont be for a while

[jaunty pecan]

thats generally speaking

but in that match they destroyed at first i was suprised

[balmy wolf]

I do dislike people that pick teams just because theyre good

[feral zodiac]

I don't mind them

[tawdry hamlet]

Do genuine boston fans exist

for some odd reason houston fans do

[feral zodiac]

Probabaly somewhere

[tawdry hamlet]

but what about boston lmao

[balmy wolf]

I picked ny becasue im from ny, and shanghai cuz I believed in the 0-40 going away

[feral zodiac]

Justice probabaly got a few fans after yesterday

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't really have a team

[balmy wolf]

First season shanghai fan btw 👀

[tawdry hamlet]

I just watch whoever plays

and enjoy underdogs lolol

Titans are dope

[feral zodiac]

Everyone enjoys underdogs

[balmy wolf]

Bro florida

[feral zodiac]

Especially the companies lul

[balmy wolf]

Number 20 to number 4

[feral zodiac]

Don't have to pay underdogs much and they pull in the big figures for u when they win

[jaunty pecan]

yea ny has no chance

gg 3-0

[feral zodiac]

Lmao

[balmy wolf]

Idk about 3-0

If they gey haskal off sombra-

[feral zodiac]

Who had a bigger fall

Boston or Vancouver

[balmy wolf]

VANCOUVER

Boston were never a top top team anyways

[feral zodiac]

Did u miss s1

Stage 2

[balmy wolf]

So? Did yolu miss the rest of owl?

[feral zodiac]

?

Why does that mean

Boston can't have fallen from the top?

[balmy wolf]

Last year and this year theyre bottom feeder

[feral zodiac]

Exactly

They went from dominant in stage 2

To bottom of the league

[balmy wolf]

Vancouver was dominant all of last year

[feral zodiac]

I think u mean shock

[balmy wolf]

No, i mean vancouver

Vancouver was right behind them

[feral zodiac]

Shock > vancouver last year though

[balmy wolf]

Well obviously?

[feral zodiac]

Boston didn't have a challenger in stage 2

[balmy wolf]

?

[feral zodiac]

Oh yeah

[balmy wolf]

Youre comparing a stage to a season

[feral zodiac]

I'm fucking stupid

I'm comparing one fall to another

[balmy wolf]

Also couldve been meta, in titans case its a roster change

[feral zodiac]

?

What could've been meta?

[balmy wolf]

Boston stage 2

[feral zodiac]

Fair

[balmy wolf]

Haksal has been a let down this year

Compared to last year

[severe swallow]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[raw summit]

damn new york are really on another level today

[karmic grotto]

...

Should have played Moira instead of Zenyatta.

[balmy wolf]

haksal emp pog

[severe swallow]

THEY NEVER LOSE

[tawdry hamlet]

bro I have not seen a draw in a minute

[karmic grotto]

This was winnable for nyxl, once again they choke their way out

[raw summit]

haksal shouldnt have emp'd

[karmic grotto]

He did, but then it was too late

[severe tusk]

that was painful

[jaunty pecan]

yo what even happens if they 2-2 now

[solar dove]

anyone got a
overwatch account i can use cuzz i got suspended

[jaunty pecan]

full hold gawddamn

[karmic grotto]

No. Don't get suspended then

[edgy tinsel]

No bc account sharing isn't allowed

[umbral zodiac]

rest in peace the brackets

[velvet hawk]

Lip is being megaboomed by Libero

[raw summit]

[velvet hawk]

NYXL should be winning this

ye

they had more impactful ults.

[raw summit]

there is still hope

[velvet hawk]

Libero is acc good

he boomed SHD

[umbral zodiac]

imagine decay on nyxl

[raw summit]

goddamn i lost like 5 years of my life

[ebon aurora]

yet another awesome series in these playoffs

[velvet hawk]

i mean Decay on any team but Shock would be insane

[ebon aurora]

this meta is so fun to watch

[raw summit]

^

[velvet hawk]

Acc

Decay on Shock would be gud

[ebon aurora]

Decay wants a pretty much full KR roster though

[umbral zodiac]

honestly nyxl and was is the only team that he will prob be really happy on since they're full korean teams and he's gonna be a starter

[raw summit]

libero is popping off though

[ebon aurora]

whereas Shock still have NA players

[velvet hawk]

I found this meta shite yesterday in NA but these two teams are actually good at it and they keep Snipers instead of Reaper so It's much better today

[umbral zodiac]

nenne hitscan isnt just it for nyxl

[raw summit]

honestly the level in apac is insanely high compared to na

[velvet hawk]

I preferred Zarya Hog to the abomination dive brawl that was being played

in NA

[civic cedar]

who won the game

[balmy wolf]

Bruh I stopped watching cuz i thought ny gave up and i came back to this

[velvet hawk]

I'm curious how a team like Paris or Florida would've done

SHD2-1NYXL

[balmy wolf]

Ik

[umbral zodiac]

all APAC teams are like mid-high compared to NA

at least

[balmy wolf]

I left after volayka

I cant spelll

[raw summit]

more like shd 2-1-1 ny

[umbral zodiac]

we dont know yet for sure but thats what my eye tells me

[velvet hawk]

Even Chengdu had a good showing

[balmy wolf]

I hope its 6 maps

[velvet hawk]

London were pretty bad tho

[balmy wolf]

idc who wins

[umbral zodiac]

7 maps

so its the toilet bowl but actually good

[velvet hawk]

Whoever is easier for GUangzhou to face wherever they go, I want that result

[balmy wolf]

cant tie control

[umbral zodiac]

oh fk

[balmy wolf]

6 maps at most now

[umbral zodiac]

rip

[balmy wolf]

Kinda like toilet bowl tho

[velvet hawk]

Lijiang is an interesting one

[balmy wolf]

Reaper

Maybe doom

[velvet hawk]

Snipers are gone..

Will likely be about coaching for Lijiang

[umbral zodiac]

and sombras

[velvet hawk]

rather than individual plays.. at least control centre

oh true

[tawdry hamlet]

bro shanghai just win already

[velvet hawk]

Lip can get 10 second emp

[balmy wolf]

Bruh?

This sia good game dont rush it

[feral zodiac]

When lip is sombra

[balmy wolf]

Good owl games are why I watch

[feral zodiac]

Emp becomes a cooldown

[umbral zodiac]

the playoffs just give off such a different vibe than the tournaments its insane

if there were homestands the hype would just be too good

[balmy wolf]

Well a mil is on the line

[umbral zodiac]

1.5m 0.0

[balmy wolf]

And a title

[umbral zodiac]

or 1.5billion won

[balmy wolf]

lmao

i think it was like 3 mill in total for the prize pools counting mvp and perfect bracket

[umbral zodiac]

mvp is gonna be controversial af

[balmy wolf]

I geuentee its fleta

[umbral zodiac]

everyone is so good but there's no standout carry like sinatraa was (imo obv)

[balmy wolf]

If not, fleta

then carpe

[umbral zodiac]

fleta meta

[velvet hawk]

KSP is the most MVP if it acc means most Valuable

[raw summit]

its gonna be carpe

[umbral zodiac]

ksp made valiant a top 5 team 100%

[feral zodiac]

Still think smurf should be winning it

[balmy wolf]

When the voting ending it was like 37% fleta 35% carpe

[velvet hawk]

KSP is acc S Tier at this point.. his sombra was also ight apart from someemps

[feral zodiac]

But he didn't even get voted into it

Justice for smurf

[umbral zodiac]

give me that dps mvp skin tho :))

[balmy wolf]

Rookie of the year?

Lip

[velvet hawk]

Sym melts

[feral zodiac]

Alarm

[umbral zodiac]

alarm definitely

[balmy wolf]

Alarm is already mvp canidatew

[velvet hawk]

I think it will depend on Grand Finals result

[balmy wolf]

Im sure itll be lip

[feral zodiac]

U can be both

[umbral zodiac]

you can be mvp and roty

[balmy wolf]

Still

[velvet hawk]

if Charge win, Cr0ng, if SHD win, Lip, If Philly win, Alarm

[balmy wolf]

Im sure itll be lip

[feral zodiac]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There are a lot of really good players this season

[umbral zodiac]

if philly win it will be alarm, if shock maybe ans? if he pulls some huge clutches, shd will be lip, and charge crong

[balmy wolf]

Yeah ans

[feral zodiac]

No one is above everyone else realistically

[balmy wolf]

I forgot hes new

[velvet hawk]

Shu shouldve been MVP candidate over Eileen :(

[balmy wolf]

Happy imo

[umbral zodiac]

sad that the eye test favored eileen

[balmy wolf]

Maybe nero'

[velvet hawk]

I mean Eileen was recency bias

[umbral zodiac]

nero hasnt played a lot this season

[feral zodiac]

Happy has been nuts this season

[velvet hawk]

Nero cannot win anything.. he hasnt played

[balmy wolf]

When he did play...

[umbral zodiac]

visa issues sadge

[balmy wolf]

He raped

[feral zodiac]

Ye but not enough games

[velvet hawk]

True. Nero and Happy were an insane DPS line Stage 4 last season. They were looking top 2-3

kek SBB

solo shattered

[balmy wolf]

Idk why ny pick haksal over libero sometimes

[umbral zodiac]

shd mental go boom? :hmm:

[velvet hawk]

Libero being a widow 1 trick

[feral zodiac]

Nah

[balmy wolf]

Whenever its sbb and libero, ny are at their best

[velvet hawk]

and u can';t widow on Lijiang

so why would they put Libero in

[balmy wolf]

Libero is one of the most flexible dps int he league...

[umbral zodiac]

just trust the coaches fam they're payed for a reason

[velvet hawk]

prolly not been practicing haksal's roles tho

whoever caps first gets 99%

[feral zodiac]

just trust the coaches fam they're payed for a reason
@umbral zodiac lmao, dallas

[umbral zodiac]

the two texas teams kek

[balmy wolf]

Id say libero is a better hitscan, mei, and pharah than haksal

[feral zodiac]

What's coaching amiright

We just stack ranked for practise

[velvet hawk]

I think Haksal equally good mei

[balmy wolf]

Idk

[umbral zodiac]

scrimming contenders teams

[feral zodiac]

Void is so fucking good dude

[balmy wolf]

The synergy is better with libero

[plush grail]

scrimming contenders teams
@umbral zodiac scrimming boston?

[umbral zodiac]

yo wtf

your name

[balmy wolf]

lmao

[feral zodiac]

Boston would stomp most contenders teams

There's a verrryyyy big difference between owl and most contenders teams

[plush grail]

nah

[umbral zodiac]

boston put up a good fight against the rein but they went and threw on havana

[feral zodiac]

Someone like runaway would probs beat boston though

[balmy wolf]

^

[umbral zodiac]

contenders korea is basically OWL but unpaid

[feral zodiac]

Or british hurricane, but I've never seen them play

[umbral zodiac]

that's where all the rookies come from

[feral zodiac]

Are British hurricane good

All I know is they're top of eu contenders

[plush grail]

im pretty sure the shock scrims some owl teams and some of the best contenders teams

boston might legit just scrim gold teams

[feral zodiac]

Everyone scrims some of the best contenders teams

That's how they pick up new players usually

[sullen berry]

oh geez

[umbral zodiac]

best eu team but that doesnt really say much considering the eu scene is pretty dead

[feral zodiac]

Find out the strongest players from the contenders teams and yoink them

[umbral zodiac]

*give them a salary

[feral zodiac]

Exactly

Yoink them lul

[sullen berry]

99/90

[balmy wolf]

Remember when everyone thought dalton was gonna be crazy

[feral zodiac]

Good one lul

[sullen berry]

mano clutch thwap

[balmy wolf]

He was the carrya t first

[umbral zodiac]

idk man he does look good but the supports arent that great

[feral zodiac]

KSAA and shockwave are the best players on titans rn

[umbral zodiac]

if VAN pick up the BH support duo they could be middle tier

[balmy wolf]

CMON BOYS MAP 6

No reaper interesting

[plush grail]

in the off-season mano is gonna absorb ameng

because the ball chad

[umbral zodiac]

i think he already did tbh

[feral zodiac]

Winning fights against Shanghai is so hard holy shit

[balmy wolf]

They are the two best balls

I think mano is better tbh

[feral zodiac]

They refuse to die

[balmy wolf]

That might be because he has the better team overall tho

[umbral zodiac]

hotba lmfao

[feral zodiac]

Yo guys remember when dallas didn't disappoint

Me neither

[umbral zodiac]

rip fleta

[balmy wolf]

If ny dont with this year, which they wont, the are gonna be disbanding

[plush grail]

dallas always dissapointed

[feral zodiac]

If ny dont with this year, which they wont, the are gonna be disbanding
@balmy wolf why?

[plush grail]

nyxl is for sure gonna loser some players in the off season

[umbral zodiac]

whoru definitely

[balmy wolf]

@balmy wolf why?
@feral zodiac 3 seasons of choking, something needs to change

[umbral zodiac]

gonna trade or sell

[plush grail]

only players I see sticking around 100% are sbb, mano and haksal

[balmy wolf]

i think theyll keep jjonak

They will try to

[plush grail]

idk if they get a nice offer

[umbral zodiac]

jjonak needs to be played around tho so kinda hard

[plush grail]

they might just take it

[balmy wolf]

Libero is a jack of all trades like s4

[plush grail]

hotba I could see going bye

and all of the dps besides sbb and haksal

[balmy wolf]

Bianca is better imo

[feral zodiac]

@feral zodiac 3 seasons of choking, something needs to change
@balmy wolf philly lol

[umbral zodiac]

bianca is 100% better at all offtanks than hotba

[balmy wolf]

Anyone see pine coming out of retirement?

[feral zodiac]

No

[umbral zodiac]

idk what happened to hotba inbetween seasons but it was bad

[plush grail]

we can dream man

[balmy wolf]

Imgaine the guy comes back and destroys

[feral zodiac]

I wish he would but nah

[plush grail]

pine coming back would be so great, he'd be a widow and mcree one trick

[balmy wolf]

I mean ehs still in nyxl just as a streamer

[plush grail]

but a very good one

[umbral zodiac]

if hes a streamer prob doesnt like the lifestyle

[balmy wolf]

Looks like a gg

NY

THIS FIGHT HEART ATTACK

SBB

[plush grail]

SBB POGGERS

[umbral zodiac]

OH CLUTCH

SBB NOT WASHED YALL

[balmy wolf]

1:12 BABY

[plush grail]

he just gave the nyxl another chance

[feral zodiac]

Holly shit mano is nuts on the ball

[raw summit]

MY HEART

[sullen berry]

hotba F

[plush grail]

sbb washed never

[balmy wolf]

Haksal selling

[umbral zodiac]

FLETA NO

FLETA

[raw summit]

fycj

[umbral zodiac]

STOP

[raw summit]

fuck

[balmy wolf]

Haksal

selling hard

[feral zodiac]

Fleta lul

[raw summit]

[real gyro]

FLETA

[raw summit]

no no no

so close

[severe tusk]

FLETA

HOLY FUCKIN SHIT FLETA

[balmy wolf]

Oh god sbb is gonna be heart broken

[umbral zodiac]

ggs

[balmy wolf]

I see sbb retiring

[umbral zodiac]

sbb gonna retire

[severe tusk]

that's heartbreaking

[real gyro]

WHAT A PLAY

[umbral zodiac]

unless they go to the grandfinals

[severe tusk]

it was a good run

[sullen berry]

jesus calm down, they're still in the tournament

[grizzled badger]

FLETA IS THE FUCKING META

[severe tusk]

NY almost had the map 6

[plush grail]

fuck man I just want sbb and mano to win a title :(

[balmy wolf]

Ik

[feral zodiac]

It's not done yet

[grizzled badger]

FLETA IS THE META

[severe tusk]

yeah, but this game is

[sullen berry]

calm down, they're still in the tournament

[balmy wolf]

Jjonak deserves it too

[feral zodiac]

Ok nvm

Fleta

Stop

[raw summit]

yeah not yet eliminated

[feral zodiac]

Pls

[sullen berry]

they're still in the tournament

[upper niche]

WTF is with all these close matches we're seeing with bottom teams??!

[feral zodiac]

???

[severe tusk]

NY ain't a bottom team tho

uh

[balmy wolf]

Well there goes that guys perfect bracket

[grizzled badger]

New meta

Also

[plush grail]

nyxl and shanghai bottom teams???

[real gyro]

NYXL isnt bottom team

[sullen berry]

@upper niche good morning

[feral zodiac]

Tf do u mean bottom teams

[grizzled badger]

Shanghai will win the league

[balmy wolf]

Ny are always number 3

[plush grail]

#2 and #1 in apac bottom teams?

[grizzled badger]

Calling it

[raw summit]

@upper niche nice troll

[upper niche]

They're bottom 50% of what's left 😛

[feral zodiac]

New york ain't a bottom team dude

[balmy wolf]

..

[sullen berry]

nobody should be doubting shanghai wininng season 3

[balmy wolf]

Top 50%..

[severe tusk]

it was a crazy match though, NY tried so hard

they almost had it

[balmy wolf]

Im letting you know philly is not better than shanghai

[severe tusk]

SBB almost clutched it to a map 6

and then fleta just says nope

[feral zodiac]

I've gotta be honest