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on hog
boston beating outlaws, washington beating titans, defiant beating LA, boston beating atlanta, and washington beating dallas 
the guy was broken
Guy is like dead
Kevster is fine, people just like to pinpoint map losses on 1 person
Space and s4 are loike the same rn
but his tracer dominated
mirror was better than zykk
ok
@balmy wolf ???
Carpe on Widow disappears sometimes too
so its hollywood
Oges winston, spaces dva and mirrors pharah did nothing on that final map too
and he swaps when it happens
Gladiators just got outplayed
kev sticked to widow when he didnt get value
if kevster actually warms up and steps up with widow
defiant played better
kev is also on 200 ping
mans said space = surefour at this point
@balmy wolf ???
@lean spire If they lose this hard im sure space is done or taking a break just like s4
really?
HE'S ON 200 PING
is he?
okay if he has bad ping thats an excuse
actually that makes a lot of sense
He's playing from europe lmao
He's also playing solo as widow vs Pharmercy/sombra
toronto just wins these tbh
he kept shooting where pharahs head was about .2 seconds ago
Remember guys, even the best players aren't going to be playing 100% all the time. Stuff will always happen that's out of your control.
they need to get another dps
imo he's the best midseason rookie pickup this year
this meta requires the least coordination and they can just play around agilities
ez hog
agilities genji when
glads have good dps lol
and kariv gets to play ana
its just their best one is sick
I'm surprised if Glads didn't try Space hog and Mirror zar
yooo birdrinhg
BIRDRING
Guys
IS PLAYING?
oh wtf hes in
???
glads win now
subbing over mirror @round cargo
Birdring is in for Mirror, not Kevster
dude
it was dps diff
The legend
Why have they got an egg casting
@weak bolt LOL
OGE still in means dive?
Widow and pocket ashe
kevster > mirror by a lot tbh
what the fuck
@round cargo just so you know, BLASE subbed over LINKZR on Cree when they were B O T H sick, so that must also say a lot
mirror played fine
blase omegalul
I'd imagine Winston/dva/tracer/ashe for this
^
who are you again
hog dva tho
Lmao
"who are you again" 
and you?
gatekeeper
so glads sticking with dive
I'm not using that as the reddit term...
man if you’re a kev fanboy calm@down
it's a legitimate term
join a fan server
Theyre probably gonna do ashe ans widow because of defiant heavy relying on a character that counts postioning and is countered by it
I'm not a FAN, I just have this thing called a BRAIN
kevster is gonna play tracer and birdring is gonna play ashe
doubt it
wait what
thatd work
they're running
kevster has a good sombra
kev had a good tracer
this could work
they have to be trolling
gg
reaper?
They're on attack, they have time to scout/swap
SUB MIRROR IN
interesting
Guessing Reaper is to put those fat bullets into Hog lol
this was played in korea contenders I believe
fucking moiras
yes but who will kill pharah
yup this was the meta in KR Contenders
dyng for no reason
zykk can solo carry this
Birdring Reaper fuck ya 
Shaz is kinda intting
wtf they are behind LOL
LMAO PUSH 2ND BOYS
lool
GO TO THEIR SPAWN WE WILL SPAWN KILL
lmao zykk
fucking hog
ok now Glads are throwing
jeez
im tellin u
jesus
agilities gonna carry
logix has emp
agilities hog is insane
they got tempo now
Agilities isn't carrying rn it's just that Glads aren't respecting Toronto
he will tho
they cant kill zykk
will hey charge 3 ults
i dont get glads
40
DUDE
logix is nuts
They aren't trying ot kill Zykk, they're looking to walk over the rest and then kil Zykk
this is disgustting
@weak bolt that doesnt work at high level
Whats crazy is s4 sombra is better, think about that
zykk will kill all of them
why the fuck are they running reaper
that only works with shit pharah
for hog
ok now they remembered how to play their comp
alright there we go
still why they runnint this
gotta pump those shotguns into hog
Sure it does. Pharah is spam damage not team wiping damage
i disagree with the reaper compared to like mccree
they're running this because they're in OWL and know what they're doing better than we do
Why Reaper? To speed up to the tanks and kill them with burst?
LOL that blossum got pharah
There are two ways to deal with a Pharah/Mercy: Deal with them directly or speed into the rest of the team and kill them before they can get value.
zykk is trolling so its fine
That's classic.
flying blossoms
the edgicopter
lmao zykk
mirror is fucking TRASH
hes not even in
mirror isnt even in man
oh I thought the sombra was mirror oof
wtf how does this work
defiant has almost 4 ults
@silk frost see
my b Kevster sombra trash
nvm
even you admitted
Glads co-ordination is bad for sombra comps, has been all season
the difference is Kevster is good at other heroes
hes good on tracer
Mirror can play Zarya and... bench
logix emp charge is crazy
ok wtf is Kevster doing
They probably scrimmed this comp
atleast they swapped to tracer
unless dive truly is superior in the upper tier
yeah the Tracer should help
i'm like 90% sure the reason teams don't swap off certain comps for a long time is because they practice it the most
this game is about swapping
wait
they know
Practice, and ults mean a lot at top level
why is birdring on tracer
Houston fucking upset SHOCK by ignoring practice
being stubborn doesnt win games
why isnt kevster on it
Back onto the Reaper. Smart.
nvm he has emp now
Reaper is good here tho
swapping and resetting ults can cost you 2+ mins of a map
gets a lot of space
not more than pharah
this is a good match
i think defiant will be able to keep them from full capping
Hog meta. Wish Harbleu was here 😦
zykk lmao
"Main Tank" down.
LAG's biggest issue imo is their lack of support flexibility
moreso that they aren't willing to swap the Moira
emp bomb

Shaz's moira is really bad, Biggoose on anything but lucio is pretty bad
oge?
is that Miro
lmfao oge
wtf
did oge
dying for no reason
OGE WHAT
they still capped
just jump into that
lmao gr
how
omg
There goes the Pharah.
this match is so scrappy
this is such a good match
such a good play then just dives into the bomb
this feels like a plat game but the players have insane mechanics
If Glads shut down agilities, they win this. They're going to have to either play Sombra or Ana today near 100%
yeah
kinda fun to watch
It was just a celebratory death. Don't sweat it.
BALL
Ameng proud
@weak bolt Agreed. People keep asking, "What counters Hog in this meta?", as if there's no answer. It's Ana.

space cant make space tho
looks like chinese contenders with some ball play
yeah, good Ana's can make hog really hard to play
no sustenance
Zykk you aren't allowed to have a head
zykk lmao
"This bad boy can fit so many headshots in it" lol
zykk pogu
CLUTCH?
Even a sick Birdring is godly
yo wtf
bruh
ball meta 
idk about nevix man
Nevix is pretty meh
zykk should play ashe or sombra
zykk lmao
he isn't a hitscan player
Zykk is a projectile player usually I think, not a hitscan
kev has a solid tracer
Glads should lose
he should learn more heroes
there we go
Robert is ready
Defiant only have 1 hitscan
surefour and logix?
S4 is done
fair
wait
similar to akm and unkoe
yeah feels like S4 is retiring after this season
they should play s4
although akm zarya would look great rn haha
never assume your backline is safe with tracer on the other team
glads used 5 ults
has Agilities pressed Q yet
these fights so messy
q is bad on this map
it does SOMETHING
zykk lmao
yeah wholehog here is likely just a deathwish on this point
yeah but you also can't really heal or damage reduction vs ashe/tracer. You;d get farmed
zykk lmao
fair
SPACE
that peeeeeeeeeel
flexe do you know ANY other words
zykk lmao
good map
zykk lmao
this match is so fun
ok its 1-1
SPACE IS A HOMIE
fusion overrated
lol birdring save by space
they were picking agilities early and often, good play
FUSIONS ACTIVATED
THAT PEEL WAS SO FUCKING CLEAN
my friend's favorite player is Space because of his hair
i feel like map picks matter a lot in this meta
Space is the best western OTT
is FRD still on Reign?
he is
ye
FRD/Hawk duo?!
no what
i wonder wat Reign's tank line will be today
FRD, Pokpo, Hawk & Gator tanks for ATL
frd hawk seems likely if they go hog zar or hog dva
Hawk and FRD could be potent
can FRD come out of the basement now
Good game thus far.
space is out of this world
but if they go more dive, prob hawk gator still
Knowing atl they'll play Gator/Hawk on Orisa/Sigma
Lol
lmao probably
I would think pokpo will be their Winston
Pokpo was the favoured winston player I think from memory. Gator was the Orisa
Gator has a great shot at being Team USA's next MT
wenever that is
just based off of MTs available
Well available MTs would be what, Hydration, Super and Gator lol?
is surefour still on defiant?
Yes
hes pretty much retired
lol
I haven't been watching OWL til now, but apparently he's cooked
btw FctFctn is a coach now so
seeing Logix in over him as Sombra earlier
He's not as good as Logix and probably lost motivation for OW
I think hes more consistent than logix
yeah Logix is nasty so it isn't surprising
but definitely lost motivation
Reinforce lookin like a qt
Logix' consistency has much improved as season went on, then he also has his huge peaks
The color outlay for these playoffs is really something
just gives off some summer vibe
yeah the artwork is amazing
I'd like to see him get a chance to play with Logix this set, even just once.
I think defiant are going to stick to the pharah honestly. They've got map pick advantages
Oh gawd. I know this woman is just trying to do a job here and get through it as best she can, but if that's what she's bringing to the table...

2CP next
Anubis fuuuuuu
junkrat plz 🙂
Anubis is interesting, might see S4 for that one over Zykk
ikr
lol ya Frankie's dope
they share 1 braincell
gUyS wHerE iS sOe
ha ha ha guys soe>frankie!!!11!!1 ha hah ha
sOe HaS cOvID
i mean, all video game commentating and casting is stale now because everything's so professional and esports now
but she's doing fine
the cheering is 48 - 52 glads 
this commentary is very much not dull
I don't have the option to cheer some reason
dude
sucks
me neither
baseball commentary is the dude talking about his wife
this is actually related to the game
american sports commentary has always been bottom of the barrell outside of few specific casters
and the NHL
sports casters are failed stand up comedians
^
you guys ever watch smash bros commentary? those guys are great
esports casters are semi-skilled people who talk fast
DUDE
the OLD smash casters are LEGENDARY
they need to get auctioneers to commentate
that's Jake and Uber
egg
I think they're the worst of the FGC
You want interesting commentary in your E-sports? Fighting Game Community.
🥚
Homemadewaffles was fucking great before he had to watch what he said 😂
hey welcome
Just give us team comms instead. We'll just get "monkey monkey monkey ana ana ana ana ana hog hog hog hog hog hog"
Smash has had great commentary
whats the score?
1-1
yeah have the casters echo call
they get players to do it sometimes too, and they do pretty well
hbox for instance
yeah true
Still running wtih Logix and Zykk
dota also has good ones
it's not the hardest thing to do as long as you know how to speak well
if you look at the stats, the glads are outperforming toronto in every section except healing
they have no other dps player 😦
why arent the glads running hog
BALL META
because they don't have a great hog player
oh ok
Space is a great hog isnt he?
Space would prolly be their hog but Oge is just too good on monkey
but hes not playing monkey
ball is super monkey
no monkey only ballsss 
lol
super fast, super strong, super no-team-protection
this is weird
nevix and logix synched a really good dive
Pig > Hamster
i just realized that so many of the tanks are animals
monkey
hamster
pig
horse/cow
and bear
who is bear
mother russia
oh yea
THEY SHOULD GIVE HER A BEAR SKIN
kevster clutched up
yeah
ANOTHER nano available for KV
Lion for Rein.
disney + Blizzard
Gremlin for Dva
ye
Lionhardt
ye
its ok torontoi got a quarter of a tick
Torontos comp isn't great for 2cp, it's about sustained fights rather than quick ones. Bad for point b 2cp
aw no more balls

why are they playing tracer into sombra
Tracer is perfectiy fine into Sombra.
ok
Kevster is clapping so it doesn't matter if there's a sombra
ok
They need to get a super clean emp fight win
they have 5 ults coming
Fusion knew double OT would be meta
they've been dry fightting
and possibly 6
thats why they signed Fury
Dry fighting. Now it's time to fight dirty.
they are gonna get emp

they saw 9 months into the future
both support ults?
theres nano
FOR A SECOND I THOUGHT TRANSCENDENCE GOT CANCELLED
1 minute fight. 6 ults. 1 kill.
OGE HOG
Defiants comp just doesn't kill quick enough vs spawns
hoge
Defiant are going to have ults.
toronto sloths
toronto defiant to cap
They should cap, but considering how quick they got point a, it could have been far quicker
im expecting birdring and kev to clutch this
HUGE EMP

yup
...
SHAZ
wow
well shaz and kevster
KEVSTER
lets go dude
huge kill
zykk should just hold barrage
clutch shaz
Shaz clutched, he got the pharah kill and trans off
Why does zykk even bother looking for barrages
wait guys what time is bston play atl reign?
14.00 pst
oh cool
Barrage is one of their best ways to get quick kills at once
shaz is still a great zen
I missed so much and I'm not even home to get my tokens.
anything else he plays tho is iffy
logix on widow?
zykk keeps getting their first pick but then dies to his own ult
Is this the only match happening today
good ana actually
@dreamy cave nah theres 3
Birdring also kept saving bob for when they nano'd Zykk in which was smart
ooh
This is the first?
Yes.
This, then Bos vs ATL, then Justice vs Fuel
Decay gonna get revenge
they are running dive
zykk getting first pick non stop
It’s annoying
Dive will work well if they can get Kariv
zykk killing himself, right on time 😂
zykk fell off the map??
i was just about to comment on zykk being good
no he rocket himself
Killed himself with self damage
Lmao
ohhhhh ok
zykk is a good player idk what platchat is on about
lol
EVERYTIME I SAY THAT HE DIES
WTF BRO
kruisee
LMAOOOO
no one says he isn't a good player, i dunno what you're arguing
its the same thing people say when players in the nfl miss a catch
lmao
"fucking trash"
obviously they are good
they are in the pro league
its just some pros > other pros
banter is most of the fun when watching and playing games
What is this fight?
no clue LMAO
Gladiator support ults are questionable for sure
Misses 1 out of 2000 completions "WORST PLAYER IN NFL"
insane

wow
this match is so fucking good to watch
FUCKIGN HUGE STICk
Its like the toilet bowl but higher rank
Jesus christ someone sign logix to a better team
SPACE WAS SO LOW HOLY
this is such a good matchhhhh
Space is doing sooo much work
so close..
im literally watching this match with my jaw open the whole time
same
emp bomb/blossom should in theory get them the final tick assuming Kariv doesn't go crazy
LOL yt chat saying sub surefour for logix
there's a OWL button on the player where u can get player cams and stuff
ggs
Yt chat simps for surefour
before match ends
ggss
This match just makes me sad as a Valiant fan, watching Agilities, Space and Kariv on other teams
insane match
Im a bit confused
yepppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
Why is Agilities playing tank?
cuz Hog
cos hes good with hog
hes not playing tank
agilities has played Roadhog for a long time
hes playing a pig
I feel like Toronto might still win this
looks like my prediction has a pretty good chance of coming true
he looks so much like an egg lololol
There was a point he was running away from space while he had 36 hp :/
This match would be over right now if Birdring hadn't subbed in
does the owl website make your laptops fans go wild for anyone else?
Valiant egg
yeah toronto should pick dorado or somethin
does the owl website make your laptops fans go wild for anyone else?
@rare magnet yes
I predicted...
LA 3 - 1 Toronto
Boston 3 - 2 Atlanta
Washington 3 - 1 Dallas
It's fucking annoying
its really annoying
Even though I dont want them to for match up sake
if boston beats atl
i have macbook are u pc or is it macs only
i cant see a perfect bracket anymore
I dont watch for the tokens, but it still kinda upsets me that im not getting tokens in my account
my laptop fan is going VRRRRRRRRVRVRVRRRRRRRRRRRRVRVRVR
Is there even any perfect ones left?
there were 5.2% left
I watched so many hours and got nothing
about 250 left
ye like 150
0.00 brackets should be correct
Last i checked was 150, but those didn't include the predictions of who played who in round 2
i bet you half of them are memes where the finals are spitfire and boston
yeah full blast laptop fans everytime
Will I get league points from watching through the app?
the only way to ever get a perfect bracket, whether this or march madness, is just meme blind pick out of a hat
yes
same with the lotto, just meme pick numbers
@grand echo you're supposed to, but it stopped working for me
thats why i use the website
i get consistant tokens
even on mobile
i use the website
its ugly to look at
but hey it gets the job done
big brain
thats like their only chance
wait why is sideshow bald
yea
he has the valiant logo on the back of his head
mhm
DAMN
anyone know how to see trivia, player cams etc? I dont see anything like that on the owl website
@grizzled mango overwatch league replay viewer on bnet app
its like watching your own replay with the replay system but w owl games its actually really fresh
@grizzled mango its on regions
u cant see it on youtube haha
right i mean owl website but embedded youtube xd
i dont see it on owl site
ahh yea
it seems like its still a bit picky rn
u need to be logged in
i have it every now and then when i refresh
cause the trivia gives u tokens
i am
i think toronto wins in a mirror match
lets goo finally got it
@clear crane thx i think i just had to leave it up a bit
why is zykk ulting
Birdring difference
God damn I love watching Widow Tracer
?
nice
yo agilities player cam is so good
platchat back to flaming zykk
ew
space is so good
they got it
nice
nice clutch
MAP 5 PLS
pharah is good on defense now
in 5!!
are tokens not working for anyone else?
Im so impressed with zykk
I receive my tokens.
Fr
tin chat
Not sure how many others have, but I am farming them on two accounts
copper chat
yt chat
How is your brain so large
plastic chat
rubber chat
Tokens only work for me on app, website worked once but never a 2nd time
the hell tat hook landed
these hooks
dude agilities shitting on them
:D:
Who did he replace on the tank role @dense pendant
birdring kevster is kinda illegal
kevster carry?
kevster is so good
EUROPE CARRY
Discord so powerful
beast @frigid pond
and/or numlocked @frigid pond but he plays mt
also how is kev doing this with eu ping
thats actually nuts
wtfffffffff
my guy been grinding air nuns
Discord pulse bomb is 455 damage. that's ridiculous
CLEAN
Kev gotta go brooo
his tracking is perfect on ping
c l e a n
It's probably more like 120, if EU players playing NA is anything to go by
LOL KRUISE
yo how
BIG DM
SHAZ CHOKED
MAP 5 PLS
FUCKING INSANE
wow shaz missed free shots
shaz watched kruise kill birdring lmfao
Shaz choked thats crazy
kruise ballsy
😂
LMFAO
NO LOL
i think pharah wins these 3rd point defence tho
OOF
reverse sweep
TAT HOOK
20
YES
MAP 5 PLEASE
AGILITIES
Map 5 here we go
2-2 boys
Down to the NAIL
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
im on the edge dude
Map 5 control. Oasis maybe for less pharah?
FUCK EM UP TORONTO
this is too good boys
ZYKK HATERS MALD
God damn this is close
EZ CLAPPERS
can teams switch roles in between maps?
yes
think so
As a glads fan this has me so stressed
They could bring in a MT for agilities for map 5 if they wanted
Gladiators have the map pick on map 5
Im not saying they will, just thatt they could
I think they're pick kings row
pls no
It's a Control map for map 5, it's not kings row
Logix rein
agilities lucio
it has to be control?
Busan, Oasis or Lijang I think are choices
@dense pendant world cup lmao
Has to be control yes, has to be a map impossible to draw
ahah
Ohhhh that makes sense
surprsied we dont have the map
oh ghod
well you cant draw on escort can you
tin chat is calling pharah op........
You can draw escort on some maps if you cap and don't move payload after
half the time I think the chat us trolling
but map 7s are never control
this has been a great series
which is sad
I think lijang is the best option
ye
Lijang would be super pharah friendly
i'd say toronto wins lijang
you want to play into pharmercy?
you dont need to cap on escort maps
and roadhog friendly
you're thinking of hybrid
I'd go nepal imo
Even escort, the payload stops when you cap a point for a few seconds
Doors open/break etc. They can be drawn when that happens
Ohhh right
O WOW
wow this is a bold decision
Toronto throwing
ok
Control centre time
TORONTO THROW?
cmon
Sym/Rein strats, lets have it
Off
How is agilities gonna be benched..
B r u h

truyuuuuu
rip, it was going so well

It's Torontos pick, they probably have strats prepared for this
how they gonna go and bench agilities
rein dva sym
I'm guessing some rein/sym
its Glads pick
it's glad's pick no?
@lean spire jesus christ nice save
they lost dorado
wdym @frigid pond
Oh yeah sorry it's glads pick oops
"prob"
Guess Toronto still have set strats for this map
numlocked v oge rein - I might actually favour numlocked
oge's rein never seemed that good
SURPRISE. NUMLOCKED IS A BETTER HOG THAN AGILITIES AND DICKS LA